Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - July 24, 2023


Ep 843 ｜ Is 'Barbie' Secretly Conservative？


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On this episode of Relatable, we're talking about the backlash to Jason Aldean's new song, Try That in a Small Town, and the myth that Governor DeSantis in Florida is somehow pro slavery.

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00:00:00.000 The long-awaited Barbie movie is finally here and apparently it is way more insufferable than
00:00:06.720 people expected but we've got an analysis for you from producer Brie and from me on that. Also
00:00:14.840 we'll be talking about the backlash to country music star Jason Aldean's song Try That in a
00:00:19.960 Small Town. Why is he being called pro-lynching? Also the myth that you see circulating that
00:00:26.600 Governor DeSantis in the Florida curriculum is somehow pro-slavery. We've got to debunk all
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00:00:44.200 Hey guys welcome to Relatable. Happy Monday. Hope everyone is having a wonderful day so far. Had
00:00:59.520 a wonderful weekend. We've got a lot of pop culture stuff to talk about and also debunking some myths
00:01:06.340 about the state of Florida being pro-slavery. What what what? I'm so glad to be back in the studio so
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00:01:33.880 the next right thing. All right just a reminder before we get into all of this we've just got a
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00:04:18.320 helps so much. It just sets us up well for when we come back for maternity leave. So appreciate you
00:04:23.800 guys so much. All right let's get into the three things that we're going to talk about today. Let's
00:04:27.500 start with this Jason Aldean story and then we'll get into the Barbie stuff. Okay I know that you guys
00:04:33.520 probably saw this last week but I just had to talk about it because it is so ridiculous. It's so 0.89
00:04:40.360 ridiculous that this is even a thing and if you don't know you will. So Jason Aldean is a country 0.95
00:04:48.200 singer and he performed a song or he released a song in May called Try That in a Small Town May 19th
00:04:56.780 of this year and then the music video premiered July 14th 2023 and it was after the music video
00:05:03.520 premiered I guess a few days after that that the song started stoking a lot of controversy
00:05:10.500 because of its content because of its lyrics. Now right now it's got over 15 million views on YouTube
00:05:19.480 the music video. It is also the number two most played song in the U.S. on Apple Music. It's climbing
00:05:25.460 the charts largely because of this controversy. People are calling the song racist, white supremacist,
00:05:34.560 pro lynching and I'll tell you why and obviously explain to you why that is absolutely ridiculous. 0.94
00:05:45.540 So let me read you some of the lyrics of this. Sucker punch somebody on a sidewalk, carjack an old 1.00
00:05:52.500 lady at a red light, pull a gun on the owner of a liquor store. You think it's cool, well act a fool 1.00
00:05:57.840 if you like. Cuss out a cop, spit in his face, stomp on the flag and light it up. Yeah you think 1.00
00:06:02.720 you're tough. And then here's the chorus. Well try that in a small town. See how far you make it down
00:06:07.900 the road. Around here we take care of our own. You cross that line. It won't take long for you to find
00:06:13.700 out. I recommend you don't. Try that in a small town. Got a gun my granddad gave me. They say one day
00:06:20.540 they're gonna round up. Well that bleep might fly in the city. Good luck. Try that in a small town. So 0.97
00:06:27.220 basically that on repeat. And then you've got the music video that in the background you do see
00:06:34.100 some different riots that are reminiscent of 2020, 2021 and the different reports of violence that
00:06:42.180 we've seen. It seems increased dramatically over the past few years. And here is a clip of that music
00:06:50.100 video that people are so upset about. 1.00
00:06:51.980 Suck a fuck somebody on the sidewalk. Carjacking old lady at a red light. Pull a gun on the owner of a liquor store. You think it's cool. You'll act a fool if you like. Cuss out a cop, spit in his face. Stomp on the flag and light it up. Yeah you think you're tough. 1.00
00:07:15.320 Okay so there it is. In the background you've got a lot of the things that were happening in
00:07:34.200 2020. The disrespects towards police officers. The burning of the flags. The riots. The protests. The theft happening at convenience stores. People didn't like that. People also noted that he was standing in front of the building apparently that has some racist historic significance. And so people are as I said calling him a racist.
00:07:56.200 So here's some of the backlash that he's received. Shannon Watts of Moms Demand Action. She blocked me on Twitter a long time ago. I think like 2017.
00:08:05.220 She took issue with the lyrics since Aldean survived the Las Vegas mass shooting. She posted the lyrics and said Jason Aldean who was on stage during the mass shooting at a Las Vegas concert in 2017 that killed 60 people and wounded over 400 more has recorded a song called Try That in a Small Town about he and his friends will shoot you if you try to take their guns.
00:08:27.380 That's that's not what he said. Police reform activist Brittany Packnett Cunningham accused the singer of not telling the truth about shootings in small towns saying that most mass shootings occur in small towns. She said Uvalde, VA Tech, Newtown, Parkland all of these were small towns. Most mass shootings occur in small towns. Your listeners are dying. Now this is not true.
00:08:53.380 She may have been referencing an AP report in 2018 that said that nine out of 10 of the deadliest school shootings in the U.S. took place in a town with fewer than 75,000 residents and the vast majority of them were in cities with fewer than 50,000 people.
00:09:11.160 But as far as mass shootings go, it is not true that most of those are happening in small towns. According to CBS, for mass shootings in which four or more people are hit by gunfire, that's how it's defined.
00:09:25.160 In all of the United States, Chicago has the greatest number of any city, large or small. There have been 24 mass shootings in Chicago this year alone. This was in 2022, which have left 12 people dead and 101 people injured.
00:09:40.160 We know this. We know this. OK, this is gaslighting. We know where the violence is happening. And by the way, if you adjusted the definition of mass shooting to be three or more, the number of mass shootings that would be recorded occurring in those large cities would spike drastically.
00:09:59.760 Philadelphia comes in second with 14 mass shootings last year, followed by New York City with 10, Baltimore with eight and Houston with seven.
00:10:06.420 And of course, we know that just run of the mill gang violence, gun violence happens frequently in those cities.
00:10:14.320 I mean, who are we kidding? We know where the majority of gun violence is happening.
00:10:19.100 Now, I'm not saying that violence never happens in small towns. I'm not saying that it's not a problem.
00:10:24.140 But we understand what inner cities look like. Like we understand how dangerous it can be to take public transportation in those areas.
00:10:32.200 We understand that the downtowns of most of those major cities have been absolutely decimated by the progressive social justice,
00:10:40.660 pro-drug, pro-crime policies that have been implemented by Democrats.
00:10:46.220 We understand that. And so they can try to gaslight us. They can try to manipulate us.
00:10:52.980 They can try to say that Jason Aldean doesn't know what he's talking about. We all know the truth.
00:10:57.820 So, again, he is also being accused of being pro-lynching.
00:11:02.080 Mississippi Free Press News editor Ashton Pittman criticized Aldean for choosing a controversial location,
00:11:08.440 the Maury County Courthouse in Columbia, Tennessee.
00:11:10.880 Apparently, there was a white lynching mob that killed a person there in 1927.
00:11:20.360 As if I'm sure that Jason Aldean, I'm sure that he knew that piece of history and he decided,
00:11:26.040 oh, I am I'm going to commemorate this terrible, awful thing that happened in 1927 here.
00:11:32.980 OK, the company that produced the music video, Tacklebox Films,
00:11:37.020 responded with a statement saying that Aldean did not choose the filming location.
00:11:41.580 Of course, of course not. The production company says any alternative narrative suggesting the music video's location decision is false.
00:11:50.960 Alternative narrative to what they said that this is a popular place to film different kinds of videos.
00:11:58.780 The women at The View weighed in with Sunny Hostin claiming Aldean's hometown is one of the most racist places ever. 0.99
00:12:05.720 And she doesn't believe he didn't understand the symbolism. Here she is.
00:12:10.240 Do you agree that he should be allowed to say whatever he wants?
00:12:12.860 Because as a lawyer, when I put my legal hat on, I don't believe in censorship.
00:12:17.380 However, this man is from Macon, Georgia.
00:12:19.540 My father's from Augusta, Georgia and Macon, Georgia.
00:12:22.880 I spent many summers there.
00:12:25.680 Yeah, both.
00:12:26.440 I spent many summers there.
00:12:28.240 It is one of the most racist places in this country.
00:12:31.620 So don't tell me that he knew nothing about what that imagery meant and what he...
00:12:39.340 So I don't give him the benefit of it.
00:12:40.400 But I'm saying along with him, more people should also be held accountable.
00:12:44.100 The other thing is, and unfortunately, this became the number one song on U.S. iTunes.
00:12:52.880 U.S. iTunes.
00:12:54.320 Did you hear that, Macon, Georgia?
00:12:56.040 I've been to good old Macon, Georgia.
00:12:57.480 How do you quantify that?
00:12:59.180 Like, how do you decide that a city is one of the most racist places?
00:13:05.580 How do you measure that?
00:13:07.300 Is it just because it's in the South and there's a lot of white people and at one point there were slaves?
00:13:13.380 Like, how do you decide what city in the United States is the most racist?
00:13:18.740 Augusta, Georgia, also been there.
00:13:20.660 Beautiful.
00:13:20.960 Actually, look.
00:13:22.240 Right here.
00:13:23.480 Right here.
00:13:23.840 This does not stand for the racist capital of the world, by the way.
00:13:27.300 That just happens to be where they hold the masters every year.
00:13:30.320 But Sonny says that they're the most racist places in the world.
00:13:33.060 And so because of where he's from, because Jason Aldean is from Macon, Georgia, he understands the symbolism of a courthouse in Columbia, Tennessee, because that makes a whole lot of sense.
00:13:44.880 This is her apparently with her, like, lawyer hat on, she says.
00:13:48.340 Okay, so the country music industry is also criticizing him.
00:13:55.040 They are also throwing him under the bus because of this apparently racist song.
00:14:00.900 And I just want to pause for a second and say that the lyrics never mention race.
00:14:07.840 They never mention black people.
00:14:09.700 They never mention melanin count.
00:14:11.520 They never mention the color of someone's skin.
00:14:14.240 And in fact, in the music video, if you saw, like, there are white women, there are people of all different ethnicities, of all different melanin counts represented in the music video.
00:14:23.280 The common theme was violence.
00:14:24.640 The common theme was disrespect and destruction.
00:14:28.040 That's what he is opposing. 0.92
00:14:31.140 And yet they're making it about black people.
00:14:34.880 Now, maybe the people who see this automatically as some kind of racist dog whistle should ask themselves why they automatically think of black people when they hear the term carjacking. 0.63
00:14:47.280 Why do you automatically think of black people when you hear lyrics about theft or burning the flag or causing destruction and disarray and committing those crimes?
00:14:59.660 Why is that where your mind goes? 0.51
00:15:01.760 Maybe you should ask yourself that.
00:15:05.520 Race is never explicitly mentioned in any of these lyrics. 0.98
00:15:09.260 And yet all of your minds immediately go to black people committing those crimes. 0.97
00:15:15.120 And so you accuse Jason Aldean of being a white supremacist when he never talks about black people. 0.88
00:15:20.660 Maybe you should ask yourself why that is where your mind so quickly automatically goes.
00:15:27.840 So as I said, CMT, country music television, the country music industry, they are also saying, oh, my goodness, this is just an awful song.
00:15:37.340 I can't believe that Jason Aldean is doing this.
00:15:39.840 OK, so CMT, country music television, pulls the controversial Jason Aldean music video so they won't play it.
00:15:47.440 They won't play it anymore.
00:15:48.520 CMT confirmed that after initially airing Jason Aldean's music video, the network pulled the video from air.
00:15:54.420 The video debuted on July 14th.
00:15:56.500 It was pulled by July 17th.
00:15:59.400 Sheryl Crow, Grammy Award winning artist, she added her disgust to the commentary, to the dialogue.
00:16:06.060 She said, I'm from a small town.
00:16:07.520 Even people in small towns are sick of violence.
00:16:09.440 There's nothing small town or American about promoting violence.
00:16:12.180 I would say that's exactly what he's saying.
00:16:14.100 He's sick of the violence.
00:16:15.360 Like he's sick of the crime.
00:16:17.180 He's sick of criminals getting away with violating the rights and the safety of vulnerable people.
00:16:27.220 She says you should know that better than anyone having survived a mass shooting.
00:16:31.120 This is not American or small town like. 0.89
00:16:34.220 It's just lame.
00:16:36.280 Jason Isbell, he is a Grammy Award winning singer songwriter.
00:16:40.060 He said, dare Aldean to write his next single himself.
00:16:44.060 That's what we try in my small town.
00:16:46.700 And then you've got Jake Owen, who is also a country star. 0.99
00:16:55.000 And he said, Jason, to this Jason Isbell person, you're always the first to get behind your keyboard and spout off with this stupid bleep. 0.97
00:17:04.720 In my small town, you just walk up to the guy and be a man to his face if you want the smoke. 0.99
00:17:08.460 Not tweet at him.
00:17:09.700 Tough guy.
00:17:10.740 And so there was all kinds of back and forth.
00:17:13.340 A lot of people defending Jason Aldean.
00:17:15.340 A lot of people criticizing Aldean online over the weekend.
00:17:20.200 And this probably wouldn't have been a controversy in country music a few years ago.
00:17:25.740 Even five to ten years ago.
00:17:27.380 But because country music has gotten more liberal, because it's moved to the left, just like every other institution, every other industry, now saying something like, yeah, we're going to take care of ourselves, our families, our friends, our community in a small town.
00:17:43.300 We're going to be anti-crime.
00:17:45.260 We're going to be anti-exploiting the weak and the vulnerable.
00:17:48.080 We're going to be anti-destruction and chaos and anarchy in my small town.
00:17:53.340 Now that's apparently very, not just controversial, but also outright racist.
00:17:58.620 Now the Aldeans have been the center of controversy in the past because they're very outspoken about not liking Joe Biden.
00:18:05.080 And Brittany Aldean, Jason Aldean's wife, is very popular on social media, and she has merchandise that is anti-Biden.
00:18:15.400 They're very pro-America.
00:18:16.800 They're very conservative, anti-Democrat, and all of that.
00:18:20.860 And so Maren Morris is another country singer, and she has called Brittany Aldean insurrection, insurrection Barbie, accused them of being transphobic, whatever the heck that means. 0.91
00:18:39.100 Maren Morris was also one of the artists, along with Sheryl Crow, along with Jason Isbell, and some other country singers, to announce their participation earlier this year in something called Love Rising,
00:18:53.360 which was a benefit concert taking place in Nashville to support Tennessee-based LGBTQ organizations.
00:19:01.000 The event was held in response to two laws passed in Tennessee, one that bans so-called gender-affirming care on minors,
00:19:07.680 and the other prohibiting drag queens from performing in front of minors.
00:19:11.140 And so all of these country stars decided that they were going to perform a concert to support kids getting chemically castrated
00:19:19.960 and girls getting double mastectomies because they are supposedly confused about their gender.
00:19:24.980 They performed a concert to support the idea of drag queens, a.k.a. grown men, in scandalous outfits, reading books in front of kids, dancing, twerking in front of kids. 0.98
00:19:40.080 That's what they wanted to support.
00:19:42.300 That's what they wanted to make sure that you knew they were on the side of.
00:19:47.620 So that's where a lot of country music is going.
00:19:49.600 You'll also remember that Kelsey Ballerini, that she performed a song we reacted to at the CMAs earlier this year.
00:19:58.540 Her song was, or is, If You Go Down, I'm Going Down Too.
00:20:03.400 She basically is describing the loyalty of her friendship, that if she decides, if her friend decides to kill her husband,
00:20:14.860 that Kelsey Ballerini is going to be on her side and keep her secret.
00:20:18.880 So these lyrics apparently are totally fine, can even be performed at the CMAs.
00:20:24.240 She said, I keep all your secrets by the dozen.
00:20:27.060 You know where my skeletons sleep. 1.00
00:20:28.720 Hypothetically, if you ever kill your husband, hand on the Bible, I'd be lying through my teeth. 0.99
00:20:33.380 So we can talk about that, apparently. 0.99
00:20:35.420 That's okay. 0.99
00:20:36.100 Talking about killing your husband and then lying about it, that's fine.
00:20:40.420 But talking about defending yourself, self-defense in a small town, that's just too far for the country music world.
00:20:47.760 She also sang the song on stage at the CMT Awards, the CMA, earlier this year.
00:20:55.720 Surrounded by a bunch of drag queens from RuPaul's Drag Race. 0.99
00:21:02.160 Again, it seemed like she was taking a stand on the Senate Bill 3 in Tennessee, which prohibits drag performers in front of minors.
00:21:09.300 So they're saying, these things are wonderful.
00:21:11.560 Like, we should allow men in prosthetic breasts to twerk and to shimmy and to dance in front of children. 0.98
00:21:17.900 That's where the country music industry is now.
00:21:20.940 And I guess the Aldeans are outside of that because they're sane people.
00:21:26.240 And so because they're outside of that, they have to be ostracized or they have to be criticized.
00:21:30.380 They have to be demonized by all of these woke, super progressive country music stars.
00:21:36.440 So times, they are a change in.
00:21:38.660 They are a change in.
00:21:39.480 Like, this is where the country music world is now.
00:21:42.940 Jason Aldean has a response to all of this craziness.
00:21:48.000 And it's a long response.
00:21:49.060 I won't read the whole thing.
00:21:50.660 He does talk about how he never brought up race in the song.
00:21:53.440 Try That in a Small Town for Me refers to the feeling of a community that I had growing up where we took care of our neighbors, regardless of differences of background or belief, because they were our neighbors.
00:22:03.760 And that was above any differences.
00:22:06.120 My political views have never been something I've hidden from.
00:22:09.220 And I know that a lot of us in this country don't agree on how we get back to a sense of normalcy where we go at least a day without a headline that keeps us up at night.
00:22:18.020 But the desire for it to, that's what this song is about.
00:22:22.500 So, whether you like the song or not, whether you're a fan of country music, whether you think the song is cool or corny, it really doesn't matter.
00:22:30.840 He does not deserve the backlash that he has received.
00:22:34.200 He definitely doesn't deserve for the music video to be taken off country music television.
00:22:40.020 He's also talked about cancel culture and how, you know, it's ruining our country, how it's not allowing us to get to a place of unity anymore. 0.99
00:22:52.760 And I've also seen a lot of people point out just how hypocritical the criticism is of Jason Aldean here.
00:23:00.280 There is a lot of comparisons. 0.90
00:23:04.700 There are a lot of comparisons going around between Jason Aldean's lyrics and the rap lyrics that are literally destructive to black Americans.
00:23:16.240 So, compare what we know from Jason Aldean's song to songs like this and tell me what you think is more detrimental, is more deleterious to black people in America. 0.96
00:23:30.980 Here's a song, rapper Jeffrey Young Thug Williams.
00:23:36.200 I don't know anything about this person.
00:23:40.540 It might surprise you to learn that I don't regularly listen to rap.
00:23:45.200 But it was in the top 100 on the U.S. singles chart.
00:23:47.980 So, this is not just random.
00:23:50.080 He says this,
00:23:50.940 I got a bag and ain't enough.
00:23:52.500 My left wrist bling.
00:23:54.040 Yes, it is tough. 0.99
00:23:54.880 I killed his man in front of his mama. 1.00
00:23:58.180 Like, it, I don't know. 1.00
00:24:01.300 Like, oh, F, little bruh, sister and his cousin. 0.97
00:24:04.560 Now, I kick my S.
00:24:07.860 That ain't no punt.
00:24:09.220 Like, F my wrist.
00:24:10.440 It ain't enough.
00:24:11.120 Now, F my B till it ain't nothing.
00:24:13.960 I shoot out blank.
00:24:15.320 Still ain't cuffing up.
00:24:18.780 And, obviously, if you've listened to any rap music at all, like, you will know that murder is a theme.
00:24:27.800 Violence is a theme.
00:24:29.660 Theft is a theme.
00:24:30.940 Superficiality.
00:24:34.240 Materialism.
00:24:35.340 Money for the sake of money.
00:24:37.120 All of these are very prominent themes in rap and hip-hop music.
00:24:41.100 You've got Tyler, the creator's song.
00:24:43.660 Troncat.
00:24:44.780 Now, he's a Grammy-winning artist.
00:24:46.580 Most of you probably know who he is.
00:24:49.240 While you inward stacking bread, I can stack a couple dead bodies.
00:24:53.720 Making red look less of a color.
00:24:55.860 More of a hobby. 1.00
00:24:56.700 Rape a pregnant bee and tell my friends I had a threesome. 1.00
00:25:01.680 You got a effing death wish? 1.00
00:25:03.680 I'm a genie.
00:25:04.880 It'll get done.
00:25:07.020 So, this is a Grammy Award winning artist.
00:25:11.340 And then we've got an artist named Suki Hana.
00:25:14.500 Suki Hana.
00:25:15.760 She apparently is popular. 0.93
00:25:18.300 And she's got a music video out that I can't, it's been circulating on Twitter.
00:25:22.340 I cannot show you.
00:25:23.680 I can't show you the video.
00:25:26.060 I will show you this full screen, though, in this awful music video.
00:25:30.380 That will just make you want to burn your eyes.
00:25:35.120 She is holding a baby for some reason. 0.85
00:25:37.720 She's holding a baby in a baby carrier.
00:25:40.840 And around her are a bunch of nearly naked people twerking.
00:25:45.760 They're twerking on roofs.
00:25:47.300 They're twerking on each other.
00:25:48.840 They're twerking people's face.
00:25:50.120 It's very, very odd.
00:25:52.240 And here are some of the lyrics.
00:25:54.160 I'm a west side hoe.
00:25:55.860 Everybody know that.
00:25:57.180 I F with the boosters and the Bs that sell they stamps.
00:26:02.700 And Bs that sell they P word with they legs on a ramp. 0.85
00:26:08.900 I'm a F your baby daddy. 0.97
00:26:11.540 And I'm a F him again.
00:26:13.520 I'm a, wow, I can't even like abbreviate this.
00:26:17.520 S is D without no hands.
00:26:20.460 Without no hands.
00:26:21.800 So, is that with hands?
00:26:24.400 Spend his bread. 0.93
00:26:25.860 Then F yo man.
00:26:26.840 You heard what I said. 0.99
00:26:28.040 What the F I said.
00:26:29.200 I'll be yo A. 0.99
00:26:30.960 Then F yo man.
00:26:33.140 So, here's some, those are some popular songs that are circulating right now.
00:26:42.120 And I think it's pretty explicit that they are promoting violence.
00:26:48.580 In all kinds of depravity and degeneracy.
00:26:51.640 You cannot tell me that the same people who are promoting songs like this are really, truly offended and harmed by Jason Aldean's song about not tolerating carjacking.
00:27:09.440 I mean, let's, let's be serious here.
00:27:13.120 If, like, because I know people get so offended when you say, oh, well, rap music and a lot of hip hop music, like it's really degenerate.
00:27:21.880 It probably doesn't have a great effect on the people who are listening to it.
00:27:25.260 This is probably not the best influence on young people.
00:27:27.960 No matter what your race and ethnicity, people get so offended by that.
00:27:31.220 Like, no, this is just art.
00:27:32.860 This has no effect on people.
00:27:34.260 This doesn't impact people at all.
00:27:35.800 People can listen to this and it's just great and it's edifying.
00:27:38.360 It's just the beat.
00:27:39.320 It's just artistry.
00:27:40.380 It's just creativity.
00:27:41.420 Like, we should just accept this and celebrate this.
00:27:43.900 And if you criticize this at all, you're racist.
00:27:45.660 Those people who have just, I guess, such like an objective sense of what makes for high quality art,
00:27:55.200 all of a sudden believe that song lyrics from Jason Aldean are going to become humans and start a lynching mob in front of a courthouse in Columbia, Tennessee.
00:28:09.540 So which one is it?
00:28:11.580 Like, do songs really matter?
00:28:13.600 Are they a real reflection of culture and people's morality?
00:28:17.320 Are they really impactful and really dangerous?
00:28:19.880 Can they really make a tangible difference or do they not?
00:28:24.040 Because if so, I think we can find far more examples of the explicit promotion of violence and degeneracy in a lot of the rap songs that are promoted than we can in any of Jason Aldean's songs.
00:28:38.640 So, again, let's just be, let's be real about that.
00:28:43.020 It's just because you're not allowed to promote self-defense.
00:28:46.520 That's the thing.
00:28:47.120 You're not allowed to promote self-defense.
00:28:49.120 You're not allowed to promote whatever small town values are.
00:28:53.260 That is supposed to make us very angry.
00:28:55.060 But songs like the ones that I just read the lyrics from, those are not supposed to make us angry.
00:28:59.060 We're supposed to ignore that and pretend like those are indicative of healthy culture and healthy morality.
00:29:05.100 I don't know.
00:29:05.900 I'm just not there.
00:29:06.620 I'm not there.
00:29:07.640 All right.
00:29:08.400 Let's talk about Barbie.
00:29:09.760 Now, I did not see Barbie myself and I will not see Barbie.
00:29:14.140 So, I'm just letting you know that.
00:29:15.520 But producer Brie has been wanting to see, or yeah, she's been talking about Barbie for a long time.
00:29:20.540 She's been really excited about seeing Barbie.
00:29:22.360 She's like, oh my gosh, this is one of my favorite directors.
00:29:24.980 And I was like, no one says that unless you went to USC, which she did.
00:29:29.520 That's a very USC graduate thing to say, that I went to the University of Southern California, and I lived in Southern California, and up there we have favorite directors.
00:29:39.840 So, Greta Gerwig, right, is one of your favorite directors.
00:29:43.860 What else has she directed?
00:29:45.660 She has directed, well, the most notable thing she directed was the new adaptation of Little Women, which I thought was brilliant.
00:29:54.520 I like Little Women. 1.00
00:29:55.480 I haven't seen it.
00:29:56.660 It's so good.
00:29:57.720 I think she added really beautiful touches to it.
00:30:00.680 She's great.
00:30:01.420 So, you were hopeful for Barbie that it would be good?
00:30:03.520 I was so hopeful.
00:30:04.680 Were you?
00:30:05.720 Yeah.
00:30:06.860 Oh, that it would be good?
00:30:08.300 Yeah.
00:30:09.040 Yeah.
00:30:09.780 I mean, I trusted her.
00:30:11.780 You did?
00:30:12.240 Is the thing I did.
00:30:13.400 Okay.
00:30:13.660 Um, yeah, I trusted her fully.
00:30:17.460 I got inklings as I went in, though.
00:30:19.700 Yeah.
00:30:20.260 Well, other people saw it before you did, and I'm sure you saw some of the commentary online
00:30:24.420 that it was, you know, a very explicit progressive agenda, which we'll get into.
00:30:28.880 But the marketing for it, leading up to it, you've got Margot Robbie, and you've got Ryan
00:30:34.540 Gosling.
00:30:35.060 I really like both of them a lot.
00:30:37.040 And they did a really good job of making you think this is just going to be a fun movie
00:30:43.840 that is over the top and really colorful.
00:30:47.700 And, but I knew.
00:30:48.660 I'm like, we don't produce as a country those kinds of movies anymore.
00:30:51.880 We don't produce non-political content.
00:30:55.820 Everything has to have an agenda.
00:30:57.500 Everything has to have an underlying progressive message.
00:31:00.040 There's no way they're going to put out a movie that's just a bunch of pretty people 1.00
00:31:05.820 having a good time with a normal rising action, climax, falling action, conclusion type arc.
00:31:12.960 There's just no way that they're going to do it.
00:31:14.820 So I didn't know anything about Greta.
00:31:17.000 So I didn't know, you know, what it was going to be.
00:31:19.920 But I just had the expectation because so few, so few movies or shows nowadays come out
00:31:26.420 just because of entertainment value.
00:31:29.080 So let me play, let me play a little bit of the trailer first because I just want to show
00:31:38.480 people if you didn't see the many, many ads for this that have been coming out leading
00:31:45.120 up to the release of the movie.
00:31:49.520 I want you to see that any kind of political messaging was very carefully excluded from any
00:31:57.160 of these teasers or trailers or clips that we saw.
00:32:00.080 So here's a little bit of that.
00:32:02.520 Make your own kind of music.
00:32:05.880 Barbie in the real world.
00:32:07.880 That's impossible.
00:32:08.800 If this got out, this could mean extremely weird things for our world.
00:32:12.740 This would be catastrophic!
00:32:14.520 We haven't played with Barbie since we were like five years old.
00:32:19.100 Oh! 0.60
00:32:20.960 No one rests until this doll is back in a box.
00:32:32.520 Humans only have one ending.
00:32:34.920 Get that Barbie! 1.00
00:32:38.180 Ideas live forever.
00:32:39.580 No, I won't let you do just one appendectomy.
00:32:47.600 But I'm a man.
00:32:48.240 But not a doctor.
00:32:49.020 Can I talk to a doctor?
00:32:50.000 You are talking to a doctor.
00:32:51.160 Can I need a clicky pen?
00:32:52.080 No.
00:32:52.300 A sharp thing?
00:32:52.920 No.
00:32:53.260 There he is.
00:32:54.020 Doctor!
00:32:54.340 Somebody get security.
00:32:57.580 Is Barbie booked if you're still in doubt?
00:33:00.560 Okay, so you did kind of see an indication of what it was going to be right in that last
00:33:07.260 conversation with Ryan Gosling, but okay, if I just saw the trailer, I would want to see
00:33:12.500 that movie.
00:33:13.480 Not knowing everything that I know now about our entertainment industry, 2010 me would have
00:33:19.080 loved that movie because the 2010 version of that movie would have been just funny and
00:33:24.260 sweet and maybe pushing the boundaries a little bit when it comes to sexual promiscuity 0.99
00:33:28.860 and whatever and suggestive language and things like that.
00:33:31.860 But back in 2010, like honestly, 2006 to 2012 had some really, no, 2004, because I've got
00:33:39.200 to go back and get the notebook in there.
00:33:41.540 2004 to like 2012 had some really great entertaining movies.
00:33:45.860 This would have been a really great movie then.
00:33:48.760 But Brie, tell us like what really happened?
00:33:51.420 What was the plot?
00:33:52.380 And then what were the obvious themes that were being portrayed?
00:33:55.320 Yeah.
00:33:56.520 So I will preface this.
00:33:57.980 I've seen some people who really hated the movie saying how outrageous it was that this
00:34:03.640 was for kids.
00:34:04.360 It's not for kids.
00:34:05.560 I didn't think it was for kids either.
00:34:07.120 I was very confused when people said that.
00:34:09.080 I was like.
00:34:09.400 Yeah, it's not.
00:34:10.020 It's rated PG-13.
00:34:11.560 People may argue that people are going to take their kids anyway.
00:34:14.680 They probably will.
00:34:15.940 But it's not rated for kids.
00:34:18.000 So keep that in mind.
00:34:19.740 But so Margot Robbie plays stereotypical Barbie. 1.00
00:34:24.440 Each Barbie in Barbie land has their own like, you know, Dr. Barbie, lawyer Barbie, etc.
00:34:30.880 And they all live in Barbie land.
00:34:33.120 And it's a matriarchal society where women are in charge of everything. 1.00
00:34:37.360 And the Kens are just kind of there.
00:34:39.940 And each Barbie has a Ken.
00:34:42.760 And they don't do anything really except for just kind of go to the beach.
00:34:46.560 And then one day, Barbie suddenly is like stricken with these worries about mortality.
00:34:53.060 And she doesn't know where they're coming from.
00:34:54.960 And she is told by Kate McKinnon's character that she has to go into the real world.
00:35:00.940 There's a rift and she has to go into the real world.
00:35:02.800 Kate McKinnon is the weird Barbie girl, right?
00:35:03.760 Yeah, she plays a weird Barbie. 1.00
00:35:05.240 Who's been played with too much or something.
00:35:06.460 Yeah, which is a good gag.
00:35:08.060 Yeah.
00:35:08.300 And she has to go into the real world and find the little girl who's playing with her.
00:35:13.380 Because her like feelings, her sad feelings are seeping into Barbie land.
00:35:18.320 They don't explain why no other Barbie has ever dealt with this.
00:35:21.600 Because surely there are other sad kids, right?
00:35:23.480 Yeah.
00:35:23.780 But so she goes into the real world with Ken.
00:35:27.800 Ken follows her.
00:35:29.540 And their arrival in the real world alarms the Mattel CEO.
00:35:34.160 Um, he's, he's alarmed by this, who's Will Ferrell.
00:35:38.160 And he orders their capture.
00:35:40.540 Barbie tracks, Barbie tracks down, uh, her owner, which is a tween girl named Sasha, who 0.99
00:35:46.500 criticizes her for encouraging unrealistic beauty standards.
00:35:50.260 And then she finds out it's not Sasha that's her owner.
00:35:53.820 It's Sasha's mom who picked up the Barbie one day and like to try to find a sense of like
00:36:00.720 joy as a kid.
00:36:02.120 And again, she started like making these drawings of like cellulite Barbie and depression Barbie
00:36:08.200 and things like that.
00:36:09.180 The mom did? 0.92
00:36:10.000 Yeah.
00:36:10.680 Okay.
00:36:11.180 Um, and that's why this Margot Robbie Barbie is like feeling those things.
00:36:15.740 Cause the mom was playing with her. 1.00
00:36:18.360 Um, they have to rescue the, they have to rescue Barbie from Mattel, who's trying to put
00:36:25.000 her in a box and send her back to Barbie land, which is what she wants. 1.00
00:36:29.600 So I was confused why she didn't want that also, but. 0.91
00:36:35.680 So she goes into the world to try to figure out why she's sad.
00:36:39.120 Yeah.
00:36:39.540 Okay.
00:36:40.440 So, yeah.
00:36:41.460 So she goes, she finds out why Mattel wants to put her in a box and send her back to Barbie
00:36:48.000 land.
00:36:48.380 Yeah.
00:36:48.520 She says, no, I, instead I'm going to go back to Barbie land with these two, with the 0.83
00:36:55.120 mom and the daughter that I found.
00:36:56.980 Okay.
00:36:57.340 I don't know.
00:36:58.600 Um, so they go back to Barbie land.
00:37:00.680 Meanwhile, Ken has learned about the patriarchy.
00:37:05.860 Okay.
00:37:06.400 He has gone off on his own.
00:37:07.340 Is it just like a random insertion or do you see that throughout?
00:37:09.980 It's a whole, it's the plot, which you'll see in a second.
00:37:13.500 Okay.
00:37:14.060 Um, he, meanwhile, while Barbie's doing this is walking around and he's realizing, wow,
00:37:19.000 people respect me here.
00:37:20.420 People think I'm like in charge of things here.
00:37:23.280 He's walking around.
00:37:24.600 Okay.
00:37:24.760 In the real world.
00:37:25.580 Yeah.
00:37:25.740 They're both in the real world.
00:37:26.580 Okay.
00:37:26.840 Because in Barbie land, it's girls, girls rule. 1.00
00:37:30.740 Yeah.
00:37:31.200 The reverse.
00:37:32.060 Yeah.
00:37:32.180 Okay.
00:37:32.900 So, and he's kind of seen as a secondary character in Barbie land and not as important.
00:37:39.840 And so now he goes to the real world and he realizes that the patriarchy exists where
00:37:44.120 Ken rules.
00:37:45.080 Yeah.
00:37:45.860 Yeah.
00:37:46.540 He's seeing businessmen and he's seeing doctors who are men and he's like, wow, men can do that.
00:37:53.320 So he takes the, the patriarchy, which it's actually called that back to Barbie land.
00:37:59.400 So they don't even, why do you think like, let me just pause.
00:38:02.180 Like, why don't you think they even try to come up with like a clever name for it?
00:38:06.900 I think it's intentionally on the nose because a lot of the gags are, I just don't think it
00:38:14.400 comes off like they intended for it to.
00:38:17.520 Okay.
00:38:17.960 So, um, he goes back to Barbie land, turns it into the patriarchy.
00:38:23.380 And when Barbie and the mom and daughter get back there, they've realized Ken has completely
00:38:28.160 taken over. 0.99
00:38:28.860 And now Barbie land is Ken dumb and it's just run by men. 0.98
00:38:34.580 Um, so they have to hatch a plan to take Barbie land back and make it a matriarchy again. 1.00
00:38:41.640 Um, and they do this by completely manipulating the men in a very toxic way, um, by each Barbie 1.00
00:38:51.880 who has their own Ken.
00:38:53.780 She goes off and flirts with a different Ken and that gets the Kens all riled up and then 0.97
00:38:59.120 they start fighting each other and get distracted.
00:39:00.820 And that's how they went back Barbie land for the women, female empowerment. 1.00
00:39:06.120 Um, and then at the end, Barbie meets with, um, the creator, the ghost of the creator of
00:39:13.340 Barbie, Ruth Handler, and asks her if she can become a human because she's still struggling 0.99
00:39:18.660 with her, the purpose of her life.
00:39:20.740 So she wants to go back into the patriarchy. 0.99
00:39:24.220 She's like, this matriarchy stuff sucks. 1.00
00:39:26.780 Yeah. 0.91
00:39:27.400 And, um, and so she does, as she becomes a human, it's not really explained how she's
00:39:31.600 able to do that.
00:39:32.340 And the last scene is Barbie going into a gynecologist appointment. 0.80
00:39:38.700 So that's her humanity. 0.98
00:39:41.580 That's what it boils down to.
00:39:42.800 But she doesn't have really friends or family or anything.
00:39:45.440 So does Ken end up, Ken ends up what?
00:39:48.920 Oh yeah.
00:39:49.500 So they, when they take over again, Barbie land, when the women take over, um, Barbie 1.00
00:39:54.060 apologizes to Ken for kind of sliding him and, you know, but she says, I'm still not
00:39:59.020 interested in you.
00:40:00.420 You have to figure out who you are apart from me, but like, sorry for not paying attention
00:40:05.440 to you that much, I guess.
00:40:07.020 And he's like, okay, I'll find out who I am on my own.
00:40:09.500 That's the end of his story.
00:40:10.720 So he's still in Barbie land.
00:40:12.040 He's still in Barbie land under the matriarchy. 1.00
00:40:14.600 And she goes to the patriarchy where she has to get a gynecologist. 0.96
00:40:18.340 She has to go to the gynecologist. 0.69
00:40:19.420 She has to go to the gynecologist. 0.69
00:40:20.420 Yeah.
00:40:21.220 So, um, here are some of the ideological issues that I found.
00:40:28.100 Um, in the, first of all, in the opening scene, I haven't seen a lot of people point
00:40:31.960 this out.
00:40:33.300 It's an homage to, um, 2001 A Space Odyssey, but it's all these little girls playing with
00:40:38.960 dolls, with baby dolls. 0.82
00:40:40.480 And the narrator's explaining, um, you know, little girls have always played with dolls,
00:40:45.220 but they've always been baby dolls until Barbie came around.
00:40:48.340 And then there's the slow motion scene of all these little girls, like smashing their 0.85
00:40:52.640 baby dolls, like on rocks and like destroying their baby dolls because now Barbie exists. 0.99
00:40:59.280 Yeah.
00:40:59.460 And I just thought it was kind of, it was a little, like a little on the nose.
00:41:03.240 I don't think they were going for like, this is about abortion, but it's, but it's still
00:41:09.320 a little disinterpreting.
00:41:10.440 And also it's like not true because girls still play with baby dolls. 1.00
00:41:13.760 I know.
00:41:14.400 I know.
00:41:14.880 Um, another thing, that teen girl, she has a speech when Barbie comes up to her. 1.00
00:41:21.400 Sasha?
00:41:22.000 Yes, Sasha.
00:41:23.240 Um, she says, this is a quote from the movie.
00:41:26.380 You represent everything wrong with our culture.
00:41:28.680 You destroyed the planet with your glorification of rampant consumerism. 1.00
00:41:32.460 You fascist. 0.97
00:41:34.240 That's what the teenage girl says to Barbie. 0.99
00:41:37.860 Well, I'll let you keep going.
00:41:38.940 I'll ask this question because it, I'll ask this question later because it could apply
00:41:41.880 to everything that you're saying.
00:41:42.960 So go ahead.
00:41:43.720 The other thing I found funny was there, there's a man playing a woman, playing a Barbie in
00:41:48.280 this movie.
00:41:49.000 Okay.
00:41:49.380 Um, so.
00:41:50.140 And there's also a trans.
00:41:51.360 Yeah.
00:41:51.680 Uh, like man identifying as a woman.
00:41:54.800 Right.
00:41:55.180 That's what I mean.
00:41:56.420 Oh, oh, oh, oh.
00:41:57.720 Okay.
00:41:58.000 Got it.
00:41:58.320 Got it.
00:41:58.540 Um, so this is actor Hari Neff, I think is his name, but he's playing Dr. Barbie, which I thought
00:42:06.420 it was a funny touch.
00:42:07.960 Yeah.
00:42:08.280 Um, and I just, this whole movie is about patriarchy and feminism and, and whatnot.
00:42:13.160 And I just thought it was really ironic that they hired a man and took a woman's job for 0.56
00:42:18.600 this movie.
00:42:19.880 Um, patriarchy is a man stealing woman's job. 1.00
00:42:24.300 Is it not?
00:42:24.980 But okay.
00:42:26.120 Um, and then there's a big issue of Ken.
00:42:29.200 Barbie doesn't like Ken in this movie.
00:42:31.280 She finds him annoying.
00:42:32.500 At one point she says, I don't want you here.
00:42:34.280 Um, she doesn't really want anything to do with him.
00:42:37.800 All he wants is to be treated decently and to be respected.
00:42:41.000 And that's pretty clear in the film.
00:42:43.360 Um, but I found it odd because he, Ken was created to be a companion for Barbie, like the
00:42:49.440 toys.
00:42:50.440 Um, and the whole movie, he's just, his moral is he has to learn to be apart from her.
00:42:56.800 Um, so it's just, it's over, the overwhelming point is that women don't need men. 0.77
00:43:02.380 Um, and women don't enjoy men and it's because of patriarchy and in the end, men are still
00:43:09.600 subservient to women and that's how it's intended to be. 0.58
00:43:13.260 So.
00:43:14.280 So my question is, do you think it's a promotion of that idea or a critique of that idea?
00:43:19.720 Because I've seen both takes because it's so on the nose, because it's so obvious, because
00:43:25.320 everyone does, or it seems like a lot of people do end up feeling bad for Ken.
00:43:29.720 And because she goes back to the patriarchy, the so-called patriarchy, um, by going to the
00:43:36.000 real world, some people are saying, no, this has a conservative message.
00:43:39.200 They're making fun.
00:43:40.380 Like in that Sasha speech, they're making fun of young people for saying things like
00:43:44.600 that when young people are super consumeristic and then calling someone else, calling Barbie,
00:43:49.720 like the reason for consumerism, the reason for fascism, whatever.
00:43:54.240 Um, so what do you think?
00:43:55.840 Do you think it's a promotion of those ideas or a critique of them?
00:43:59.620 Uh, I think it's a promotion.
00:44:01.320 I think that's a stretch.
00:44:02.400 People saying that it's critiquing those progressive ideas.
00:44:07.420 There are, there, there are a couple lines where I'm like, oh, they like almost got it.
00:44:12.100 Sasha at one point is talking about Barbie and she's like, why are you like following
00:44:16.340 that nut job? 0.98
00:44:17.260 And then she stops herself and she goes, I mean, like, um, intellectually challenged.
00:44:22.180 So it's like, that's supposed to be a joke.
00:44:24.520 Yeah.
00:44:25.260 But, um, so it might be played with like a little bit of humor, but the overall message
00:44:30.420 of the story is, is not that it's not, we're making fun of this.
00:44:36.040 So why do you think they have her going back to the patriarchy then?
00:44:39.920 And basically showing the matriarchy is not fun. 1.00
00:44:42.480 And it's like the way that it was achieved is through manipulation.
00:44:46.280 Yeah.
00:44:46.820 I mean, they don't point those, those things out though.
00:44:50.520 She goes back to, to the patriarchy, back to the real world because she now has these
00:44:55.880 feelings that she can't escape.
00:44:57.660 So it's more of a, like, now I'm a human and I need to grapple with like the good and
00:45:02.980 bad of being a human.
00:45:04.160 But at the end it says, you know, in, in Barbie land, the men have asked for some leadership
00:45:10.440 roles now that, you know, at the end of the movie, they ask, you know, can maybe we have
00:45:14.960 one man on the Supreme court in Barbie land and president Barbie says, no, but we can maybe
00:45:20.840 put one of you like at a lower circuit court position.
00:45:24.020 And the narrator says, maybe one day in Barbie land, um, the men will have just as much power
00:45:29.720 as the women have in the real world. 0.96
00:45:32.020 And so, I mean, it's pretty obvious what they're trying.
00:45:35.640 Yeah.
00:45:35.900 It's pretty obvious.
00:45:37.080 I know people are mad.
00:45:38.400 I saw this tweet from someone who, a progressive, lots of flags in their, in their Twitter.
00:45:44.500 And they said, um, two quibbles, raging heteronormativity and gender essentialism, but near perfection
00:45:51.560 in movie form.
00:45:52.720 So they really loved, they didn't love the gender.
00:45:55.020 They didn't love that it was Barbie and Ken.
00:45:57.300 Oh yeah.
00:45:57.960 Blue and pink.
00:45:58.680 And they're both white.
00:45:59.720 They're both good looking.
00:46:00.700 They're both thin.
00:46:01.940 So that part was wrong.
00:46:03.740 It should have been more diverse.
00:46:05.240 But the radical feminism was really awesome. 1.00
00:46:09.280 Yeah.
00:46:09.920 So.
00:46:10.840 Okay.
00:46:11.740 So I got it.
00:46:12.800 You don't think it's a critique.
00:46:14.020 Some people saying it was a conservative message.
00:46:16.100 I saw Libby Emmons.
00:46:17.320 We've had her on our show several times.
00:46:19.480 Why is the impulse of feminism to leave women alone, unmarried, childless, without close 0.99
00:46:23.320 friends, without community, the reframing of what women want as identifiably male ambition 0.58
00:46:27.860 is doing disservice to women.
00:46:29.020 And it's fully exemplified in the Barbie movie.
00:46:31.980 I mean, it does sound like that's what they showed.
00:46:34.320 Like that basically the pinnacle of womanhood is to have power, to be working and to be in 1.00
00:46:40.780 positions that have been traditionally held by men, to be, I guess, without kids, smashing
00:46:46.300 your baby dolls, whatever that was supposed to represent, alone, unmarried.
00:46:51.980 And we know from every data set that's available to us that that's not what makes people happy.
00:46:57.500 Being alone, being childless in general is not what leads to supreme happiness.
00:47:04.520 I'm not saying that no one in that position can be happy.
00:47:07.800 But being without community, without purpose, without any sense of like belonging is not
00:47:19.600 what makes people happy.
00:47:22.060 And men are still men and women are still women. 0.77
00:47:24.280 And whether you like it or not, we still have different inclinations.
00:47:28.960 We still have different strengths.
00:47:30.760 Uh, we still have, uh, different abilities that drive us to occupy different spheres.
00:47:38.160 There is, do we have the clip of Snow White and the reaction to the Snow White girl saying,
00:47:44.680 uh, Snow White is also another movie that's being reproduced to be more woke, to be more
00:47:51.120 liberal, to be more diverse, and to change the narrative that women need men. 0.99
00:47:56.580 And I guess also that the Seven Dwarfs were all these like white men. 0.99
00:48:02.540 Now they're this array of genders and colors and all of this stuff.
00:48:06.480 But here was a, uh, a red carpet reaction from the girl playing Snow White about how this
00:48:14.420 version of Snow White is an improvement on the archaic Snow White.
00:48:19.980 You said you were bringing a modern edge to it on stage.
00:48:23.420 What do you mean by that?
00:48:24.100 I just mean that it's no longer 1937 and we absolutely wrote a Snow White that is, yeah.
00:48:30.140 She's not going to be saved by the prince.
00:48:31.520 She's not going to be saved by the prince and she's not going to be dreaming about true
00:48:34.880 love.
00:48:35.300 She's dreaming about becoming the leader she knows she can be and the leader that her
00:48:39.060 late father told her that she could be if she was fearless, fair, brave, and true.
00:48:43.020 And so it's just a really incredible story for, I think, young people everywhere to see
00:48:46.600 themselves in.
00:48:47.600 Hmm.
00:48:48.380 What's wrong with dreaming about true love?
00:48:51.560 What's wrong with wanting to be loved?
00:48:53.040 What's wrong with wanting to be married?
00:48:54.860 What's wrong with wanting to find the one?
00:48:57.840 And it depends on what you think about the one.
00:49:00.820 And if you think there's just one person or whether you think there's lots of people that
00:49:04.380 you could be compatible with and end up with.
00:49:06.800 But the fact of the matter is the goal is to find the one person that you want to share
00:49:11.200 life with forever that you're totally and completely committed to.
00:49:14.880 I mean, that's a very high aspiration.
00:49:16.900 I agree that that's not always the only aspiration or the highest aspiration.
00:49:21.800 The highest aspiration is to glorify God.
00:49:23.700 You can glorify God as a single person.
00:49:25.600 You can glorify God as a wife and mom.
00:49:27.420 You can glorify God in many stations in life.
00:49:29.760 God may or may not have marriage promised for you, but it is still a worthy goal.
00:49:34.620 It is a worthy thing to long for and to put some form in some healthy form of hope and work
00:49:42.040 into, of course.
00:49:43.520 But apparently that's just passe.
00:49:45.320 That's just superficial.
00:49:46.860 That's archaic.
00:49:48.080 That's something that people cared about in 1937, but don't care about anymore.
00:49:52.340 Look, it's a lie.
00:49:54.220 Women still want to be protected. 1.00
00:49:55.860 They still want to be pursued.
00:49:57.460 They still want to be provided for.
00:49:59.000 I don't care what kind of tough exterior a woman is portraying to the world. 1.00
00:50:04.260 I promise you, she doesn't want a feminine, flimsy man who just does as he's told.
00:50:11.120 She doesn't.
00:50:12.300 Does she want a compassionate, kind, sensitive man who is willing to, you know, support her
00:50:19.300 as she supports him?
00:50:20.920 Sure.
00:50:21.480 In a lot of ways, yes.
00:50:22.900 I think that that's absolutely true.
00:50:25.800 Does she want this guy who doesn't care about her feelings?
00:50:28.360 Who's just this macho guy who pretends, who patronizes her, belittles her, pretends like
00:50:32.640 she's not capable of anything?
00:50:34.200 No.
00:50:35.080 But a woman wants a strong man. 1.00
00:50:36.640 I promise you she does.
00:50:38.640 Now, I think some women have deceived themselves into thinking they want a weak man, but they 1.00
00:50:43.400 always end up being disappointed.
00:50:45.960 And unfortunately, our society doesn't praise strength in men, doesn't praise masculinity,
00:50:51.420 doesn't praise responsibility and provision and protection and all of these things that
00:50:55.780 I think men can very uniquely provide.
00:50:58.620 And so it's getting harder and harder for women to find those kind of men. 0.51
00:51:01.700 But I promise you, deep down in our heart of hearts, women want strong men.
00:51:07.120 We want masculine men. 1.00
00:51:08.580 We want to be protected.
00:51:09.960 We want to be provided for.
00:51:11.580 We want to be pursued.
00:51:13.340 Absolutely.
00:51:13.760 And movies like this that completely get wrong people's hearts, that completely get wrong
00:51:21.860 human nature, they don't do well.
00:51:23.680 This movie is not going to do well.
00:51:25.540 Traditionally, Disney movies over the past couple of years have not done well because
00:51:29.420 people don't want a diversified, woke-ified version of their favorite movies from the
00:51:34.360 80s and 90s or, you know, the mid-1900s.
00:51:37.500 People don't want that.
00:51:38.580 They would rather watch the 1937 version of Snow White than get this new and quote-unquote
00:51:45.440 improved version that just makes them feel bad and confused about the world. 1.00
00:51:50.360 It's so stupid. 1.00
00:51:51.460 But Disney doesn't care. 1.00
00:51:52.340 Just like so many other companies, they don't care about making money.
00:51:55.000 It's not about making money.
00:51:56.140 If they cared about making money, then they would have kept Sound of Freedom.
00:51:59.100 They dropped Sound of Freedom, which is still number three in the United States right now,
00:52:02.600 which is pretty incredible.
00:52:04.100 Still raking in tens of millions of dollars, despite all of the theater issues that are
00:52:07.620 happening across the country, to, I guess, try to inhibit people from being able to watch
00:52:11.720 the movie.
00:52:13.340 But they don't care about money.
00:52:14.880 They care about an agenda.
00:52:17.740 It goes back to a lot of what Justin and I were talking about last week.
00:52:21.420 So make sure you go check out those episodes about why this radical and huge transformation
00:52:26.720 of every sector of society is happening, what it is tied to.
00:52:30.600 Yes, it's a spiritual war, but there's also a lot of other things behind it.
00:52:35.480 Okay, I was hoping to end in under an hour.
00:52:37.420 Let me just do this real quick.
00:52:38.900 I'm not going to be able to get into all of this stuff about the Florida slavery curriculum,
00:52:44.580 Kamala Harris, and all of that.
00:52:46.340 This could be a really long segment.
00:52:47.700 Maybe we'll get more into it later this week.
00:52:49.840 But basically, what you're hearing is that Ron DeSantis and the state of Florida, because
00:52:55.240 they're trying to change education from just being progressive indoctrination to being based
00:53:00.340 on facts and encouraging critical thinking, that they are now introducing a pro-slavery
00:53:05.740 curriculum.
00:53:06.480 You're probably seeing people on your timeline say that Florida, the new curriculum, is promoting
00:53:13.580 the idea that slaves actually benefited from slavery.
00:53:19.160 And so therefore, slavery was nuanced or it was good.
00:53:22.420 And you had Kamala Harris, the vice president of the United States, going down to Florida
00:53:27.320 last week and saying this.
00:53:29.780 Here she was on July 20th, giving a speech.
00:53:34.040 Just yesterday in the state of Florida, they decided middle school students will be taught
00:53:39.180 that enslaved people benefited from slavery.
00:53:45.060 They insult us in an attempt to gaslight us and we will not stand for it.
00:53:51.960 Okay, so I thought she was in Florida.
00:53:53.960 She wasn't in Florida, but she was giving that speech about the state of Florida.
00:53:56.940 There are some other people who criticized him on this.
00:54:03.500 Several people, several headlines saying, New Florida Standards teach students that some
00:54:08.900 black people benefited from slavery because it taught useful skills. 0.99
00:54:11.700 CBS, Florida schools to teach personal benefit of slavery under new black history curriculum.
00:54:16.360 DeSantis, according to Washington Post, seeks to whitewash slavery in Florida curriculum. 0.97
00:54:21.640 But if you actually read the 216 page document, which we will put in the description of this
00:54:27.320 episode, you will see that that's not what's going on at all.
00:54:30.880 The curriculum, like I said, is 216 pages.
00:54:33.980 And so it's it's very long.
00:54:37.100 It might take you a long time to go through all of the bullet points, but it's very transparent
00:54:40.620 about what it's going to be teaching.
00:54:43.160 It's going to be teaching these students everything about slavery, how horrific it is, the methods
00:54:49.760 used to to buy these people from Africa, bring them over to the West, enslave them, what 1.00
00:54:57.980 shadow slavery looked like, how harsh the conditions were.
00:55:00.900 But they're also going to teach them about the different forms of forms of slavery that
00:55:06.380 was happening that were happening in the world.
00:55:08.060 And by the way, teaching them that these Africans sold into slavery were sold by other Africans
00:55:14.140 who were also enslaving them, that slavery, that shadow slavery is not unique to the United
00:55:20.220 States.
00:55:20.700 It's not unique to the West.
00:55:22.040 It's certainly not unique to white people or any ethnicity that unfortunately, this was
00:55:27.060 a very tragic and absolutely disgusting practice that happened throughout the world, basically
00:55:32.420 in every society that has ever existed and is still prevalent in parts of the world.
00:55:38.060 I don't know if they were going to teach that last part, the prevalence of slavery today,
00:55:43.120 which people seem to be much less incensed about, but they are going to teach the history
00:55:50.060 of slavery and all the different aspects of it.
00:55:53.160 One part of this slavery curriculum is to say that some slaves, because of their own resilience,
00:56:01.700 because of their own character, because of their own work ethic, were actually able to
00:56:06.400 use some of the skills that they gained through the disgusting practice of chattel slavery to
00:56:11.640 then later benefit themselves.
00:56:13.600 Frederick Douglass is one such example.
00:56:17.460 So you have people, I've even seen conservatives, they try so hard, some of these conservatives,
00:56:22.900 they try so hard to prove, oh, I'm moderate.
00:56:25.780 I'm reasonable.
00:56:26.780 I see some points at the left, I'm going to call out my side when I need to call out my
00:56:32.260 side.
00:56:32.540 And because they're so desperate to do that, they won't even look at the facts of a situation.
00:56:37.260 They just want to put their commentary out there so they can like score some point from
00:56:41.180 the other side or pretend like, you know, I don't know, like they're fair and impartial
00:56:46.780 and all that.
00:56:47.300 But they almost always get it wrong when they try to do that.
00:56:49.800 And so I saw some people, some Fox News commentators, some people on the right, some conservatives
00:56:54.720 saying, oh, yeah, you know, I like DeSantis, but this is awful.
00:56:58.020 I can't believe they're trying to whitewash slavery.
00:57:00.260 This is not whitewashing slavery.
00:57:01.980 There's nothing about this curriculum that we can see from the link that's provided for
00:57:05.880 us that justifies slavery in any way.
00:57:09.960 Like, understand how the propaganda machine works at this point.
00:57:12.900 If anything sounds too good or too bad, as we have talked about before, about the opposing
00:57:21.080 side, then it's probably not completely true.
00:57:24.840 There's probably something that you need to look into yourself, especially when it comes
00:57:29.780 to Republicans and the right.
00:57:31.320 Why do I say especially when it comes to Republicans and the right?
00:57:34.340 Because the mainstream media, most of the institutions in this country are dominated by leftism.
00:57:40.360 And so, of course, they're going to have a bias against the right.
00:57:43.120 Of course, you're not going to be able to trust a headline from The Washington Post or
00:57:47.160 a headline from CBS or NBC.
00:57:49.000 They hate the right.
00:57:50.000 They hate conservatives. 0.99
00:57:51.040 They hate Republicans. 0.96
00:57:52.240 Of course, they're going to lie.
00:57:53.740 You really think that you can believe Vice President Kamala Harris when she says that Florida
00:58:00.120 is promoting slavery?
00:58:02.960 You really think that you could take her at her word?
00:58:06.240 She can't even put a coherent sentence together.
00:58:08.320 Her brain doesn't work that quickly.
00:58:10.860 So you think that she is going to be able to tell you the truth?
00:58:14.940 You think she has that capacity? 0.99
00:58:16.380 I'm not sure that she does.
00:58:18.160 Most of what comes out of her mouth is just a completely incoherent, rambling mess of a 0.99
00:58:24.260 mad woman or it's a lie. 0.97
00:58:27.240 Like you should know that at this point, no matter what side of the aisle that you're on.
00:58:30.980 So no, this curriculum doesn't promote the benefits of slavery.
00:58:34.240 It doesn't whitewash slavery.
00:58:35.980 Like let's think a little bit, guys.
00:58:38.300 Let's use our critical thinking skills or just use that thumb.
00:58:41.600 Just use that thumb that you have to click a couple links and to read things yourself.
00:58:46.640 Now we've all made mistakes.
00:58:47.980 We've all been hasty.
00:58:49.040 We've all said things that we shouldn't have said.
00:58:50.940 We've all commented on things too quickly.
00:58:52.980 We've all believed what we want to believe because we have preconceived notions of what
00:58:57.420 the other side is like.
00:58:58.540 I've done that.
00:58:59.340 I apologize for that.
00:59:00.700 I see this way too much though when it comes to Christian women and race, Christian women 1.00
00:59:05.560 and race, Christian conservative women, when it comes to these racial issues, they are so 1.00
00:59:10.540 quick to jump on whatever narrative is being pushed out there.
00:59:15.420 The black people are being marginalized by curriculum or laws or whatever it is because they want
00:59:20.520 to be seen as at least in this area, progressive or an ally or whatever. 0.95
00:59:26.980 And they end up perpetuating a lie.
00:59:30.340 And that really bothers me.
00:59:31.920 It's bothered me so much since 2020 because I see this gullibility and this naivete and
00:59:38.720 maybe this like purposeful ignorance because you want to be accepted by this group of people.
00:59:44.800 You want to be seen as moderate.
00:59:45.820 You want to be seen as nuanced.
00:59:48.000 And so you don't do the work to actually look into a headline like this because saying that,
00:59:52.680 Ron DeSantis promotes racism and white supremacy through Florida curriculum will score you some
00:59:57.920 points with the racial reconciliation crowd.
01:00:01.160 It's sad.
01:00:02.280 Don't lie.
01:00:03.140 Don't be gullible.
01:00:04.480 I mean, those aren't Christian virtues.
01:00:06.140 Let's be thoughtful.
01:00:07.300 Let's be critical thinkers. 1.00
01:00:08.920 Let's look past these stupid headlines. 1.00
01:00:11.580 This is a great curriculum as far as I can see. 1.00
01:00:13.620 I don't know.
01:00:14.080 I can't vouch for it.
01:00:15.260 I haven't seen every single page of the curriculum.
01:00:17.560 This is just a summary, this 216 page document.
01:00:23.920 But from what I've seen, it's good.
01:00:26.980 Like we should be teaching kids about Booker T. Washington and Frederick Douglass and Thomas
01:00:34.680 Solt.
01:00:35.200 Like that should all be a part of black history. 1.00
01:00:37.980 What they really want is the People's History of the United States, which was a propaganda
01:00:43.700 book that pushed the narrative that America is exclusively a vessel of oppression and white
01:00:49.120 supremacy. 0.60
01:00:49.660 That's what they want.
01:00:50.580 They really want these kids to be lied to. 1.00
01:00:53.120 They want black kids to hate their skin. 1.00
01:00:55.220 They want white kids to hate their skin. 1.00
01:00:56.900 They want to cause this kind of division. 0.99
01:00:58.740 They say they want reconciliation. 0.83
01:01:00.760 Really, they want history to propagate the lie that white people have always been oppressors
01:01:06.540 of black and brown people and that we still are not out from under those effects today 1.00
01:01:12.160 because this allows the government, specifically progressives in power, to have more power.
01:01:18.080 That's what the play is here.
01:01:19.960 And Florida is saying we're not going to be a part of that.
01:01:21.800 We're going to teach facts.
01:01:24.400 It is what it is.
01:01:25.660 The question should always be, is it true?
01:01:28.380 Not do I like this or does it sound good?
01:01:30.860 But is it true?
01:01:31.680 Is it true that some slaves, because of their own resilience, benefited from some of the
01:01:37.460 skills that they gained while they were under the tyranny, the oppression of slavery?
01:01:42.520 Yes, that is true.
01:01:44.520 Done.
01:01:45.520 Done.
01:01:47.420 Ugh, my goodness.
01:01:48.620 Okay, I didn't know that we would be spending that much time on Jason Aldean and on Barbie,
01:01:52.960 but I had a lot to say about these things.
01:01:54.520 Hope you enjoyed it.
01:01:55.500 It's a longer episode, but a little bit more of a lighthearted episode, hopefully infusing
01:01:59.680 some sanity back into your day.
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