Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 855 ｜ Responding to 'The Sparkle Creed' & Other Blasphemy ｜ Guest： Fr Calvin Robinson

00:00:00.000 Well, it seems like the entire Christian church sometimes is devolving into progressive

00:00:06.840 nonsense, and not just the church, but the world at large.

00:00:11.740 What do we make of all these crazy claims that we see circulating online?

00:00:16.200 Like, God is queer, or Christians must be a slave to the climate agenda. 0.90

00:00:23.980 What does all of this mean?

00:00:25.360 How do we combat it as Christians, and why is the truth of God better?

00:00:31.100 Why and how does the gospel actually have the answer for this chaos that we see, not

00:00:36.880 just in the culture, but also in the professing church today?

00:00:40.380 Father Calvin Robinson is here today.

00:00:44.080 He's one of your favorite guests, one of my favorite guests, too.

00:00:47.980 He is going to react to some of these crazy things that we're hearing and seeing around

00:00:52.460 the world and give us the proper biblical perspective on all of it.

00:00:57.060 I know you'll love this conversation.

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00:01:14.380 Father Calvin Robinson, thank you so much for joining us once again.

00:01:19.120 How are things going across the pond?

00:01:23.560 Things are going well with me, but over here, things are crazy.

00:01:26.880 I don't know what's happening in the church.

00:01:28.100 It seems to be doing everything it can to implode itself, but it's a pleasure to be joining

00:01:32.740 you on your show again.

00:01:34.900 Yeah, there's some craziness that we're going to get into, that we're going to get in today

00:01:39.800 to today that I want to get your response to.

00:01:42.240 By the time this episode is coming out, a lot of people will have already seen these clips.

00:01:46.460 Maybe not, though, but it's still worth commenting on because there's a new clip every week,

00:01:51.460 it seems, of some ordained minister saying that they are representing Christ, representing

00:01:57.160 scripture, representing the gospel, and they're saying things.

00:02:01.480 It's almost like it's a different language.

00:02:03.280 I have no idea where they're getting this stuff.

00:02:06.360 Okay, the first clip that I want to get you to react to is from over here in the United States.

00:02:12.260 Anna Helgen, she's a female Lutheran pastor of Adina Community Lutheran Church in Minnesota,

00:02:19.520 and she, in this video, is reciting something called a Sparkle Creed, and I guess this is

00:02:28.380 supposed to be representative of the mission of the particular congregation and church she's

00:02:33.640 leading.

00:02:34.080 So here she is giving her Sparkle Creed.

00:02:36.660 Let us confess our faith today in the words of the Sparkle Creed.

00:02:43.100 I believe in the non-binary God, whose pronouns are plural.

00:02:49.600 I believe in Jesus Christ, their child, who wore a fabulous tunic and had two dads, and saw

00:02:57.460 everyone as a sibling child of God.

00:03:00.380 I believe in the rainbow spirit, who shatters our image of one white light and refracts it

00:03:08.700 into a rainbow of gorgeous diversity.

00:03:11.860 I believe in the calling to each of us that love is love is love.

00:03:17.100 Okay, and we even had to cut some lines out of that so it's not too long.

00:03:23.300 Can you translate this for us?

00:03:25.820 I'm confused about what this has to do with Christianity or the gospel at all.

00:03:32.300 Are you sure this is a Christian pastor?

00:03:34.220 I'm not entirely convinced this is the same faith that we practice.

00:03:37.640 This is why the Latvian Lutherans reversed their decision to have female pastors, because

00:03:42.800 this is incorrect.

00:03:44.020 This is inappropriate.

00:03:44.680 This is clearly an approach to be inclusive and bring people in.

00:03:48.820 But the audacity of this woman to rewrite the creeds, the ecumenical creeds that were 0.91

00:03:53.260 written by bishops that came together from around the world, united in faith to God against

00:03:58.820 heresy, this woman is reversing all of that and creating her own heretical creeds. 1.00

00:04:04.600 I believe in a non-binary God whose pronouns are plural.

00:04:08.260 First of all, there is no such thing as non-binary.

00:04:10.660 We know this because the Bible says that God made man and God made woman.

00:04:14.720 God made us male and female.

00:04:16.380 But the idea that God's pronouns are plural.

00:04:19.640 When he told us his preferred pronouns, call me God the Father, and his son, his name is

00:04:25.300 Jesus Christ, our Lord and Savior.

00:04:27.460 They are male figures.

00:04:28.660 That's not denigrating women or females at all, but it's saying that this is how God has told

00:04:34.840 us to perceive him, in a patriarchal manner, as a protector, as a provider, rather than

00:04:40.000 nurturing and maternal.

00:04:42.100 And these are both good things, but he's told us how to refer to him.

00:04:44.860 So the audacity, the arrogance of this woman. 1.00

00:04:48.500 But you can see where this is coming from.

00:04:50.120 This is coming from the enemy.

00:04:51.560 She might not be on the enemy's side, knowingly, but she's been used by the enemy.

00:04:55.560 This love is love is love language, we know, is a mutilation of the word love.

00:05:02.040 It's a love that means desire, the devices and desires of our own hearts.

00:05:06.340 It's a love that means lust and things that I personally want or personally need.

00:05:12.340 It's not the biblical love.

00:05:13.720 It's not the God-like divine love, which is agape, which is a self-sacrificial love, which

00:05:18.900 is a willing the good of the other.

00:05:20.460 It's very, very different, and it's actually a very dangerous terminology, this love is

00:05:25.620 love, this cyclical phrasing, because actually it breaks down boundaries and barriers that

00:05:30.980 are needed for love to thrive.

00:05:33.100 And this is why it's the enemy's work.

00:05:35.700 Yes, and this is just creating God in our own image, when in fact God created us in his

00:05:42.240 image.

00:05:42.720 He's the definer and the arbiter of all things.

00:05:46.060 And you mentioned how he refers to himself as father.

00:05:49.560 He refers to himself as king.

00:05:52.180 He refers to himself in these paternal and masculine terms and words, even though he is,

00:05:58.760 I mean, God is spirit.

00:06:00.900 He doesn't have a body like we do.

00:06:03.180 Of course, Jesus Christ is God made flesh, but God doesn't have a body like we do.

00:06:07.800 He does refer to himself at different parts of scripture as like a mother hen or a nursing

00:06:12.680 mother when he's talking about like his love for Israel and his protection of Israel.

00:06:18.640 But that does not mean that God is non-binary, because again, that is trying to make God fit

00:06:25.320 into these imaginary categories of so-called gender identity that humans have created.

00:06:33.860 When, as you said, he tells us who he is.

00:06:36.620 He says, I am that I am.

00:06:38.960 And he said he's a father to the fatherless.

00:06:41.820 So we have to respect everyone's pronouns, except when it comes to the God of the universe.

00:06:47.720 When it comes to the God of the universe, we apparently have the authority to tell him

00:06:52.420 how he's supposed to identify really in a way just to affirm our delusions about our

00:06:58.020 own identity.

00:06:58.700 Well, I mean, spot on.

00:07:01.760 This is, again, it's all down to personal arrogance, isn't it?

00:07:04.260 This woman is essentially trying to rewrite the faith and push her, project her own ideas 1.00

00:07:09.860 onto God.

00:07:10.640 And this is a very, very modern thing, isn't it?

00:07:12.660 This is what we're always doing.

00:07:13.540 We're looking at the scriptures and trying to bend them around our own ideals or trying

00:07:17.680 to shape Christ around our own identity and trying to create gods of ourselves rather

00:07:22.640 than look to the scriptures and shape our lives around them.

00:07:25.280 Look to Christ, shape our lives around him and empty ourselves of our own personal will

00:07:29.680 to be filled with the divine will of God.

00:07:31.520 This is what we should be doing.

00:07:33.480 But we are so arrogant and so self-centered that we want everything to fit into our own

00:07:38.920 lives.

00:07:39.360 And this is how we're making gods of ourselves.

00:07:41.300 It always comes back to the beginning of the book, to Genesis itself, where we have the

00:07:47.260 serpent whispering in our ears saying, did God really say that?

00:07:50.340 You know, we can make gods of ourselves.

00:07:51.800 We can eat of the tree of knowledge of good and evil.

00:07:53.740 Why not?

00:07:54.280 Why shouldn't we?

00:07:55.020 We owe it to ourselves.

00:07:56.780 We haven't learned a single lesson.

00:07:59.760 Exactly.

00:08:00.480 Exactly.

00:08:01.000 It all goes back to the garden, exchanging the God of scripture for the God of self.

00:08:04.900 The same thing that the first humans were tempted to do and fell into that temptation.

00:08:09.960 We're still trying to do that today.

00:08:12.100 She says, I believe in Jesus Christ, their child, which I don't think that she actually

00:08:17.020 does, their child who wore a fabulous tunic and had two dads.

00:08:20.720 So this part is what bothers me, obviously, is the inaccuracy, but it's a joke.

00:08:27.740 It's kind of tongue in cheek.

00:08:29.040 Like, I think the person who created this so-called sparkle creed knows that Joseph and God, the

00:08:34.700 father, were not in a relationship.

00:08:36.320 Like, this wasn't like some kind of homosexual union where they were raising a child together,

00:08:42.140 and yet they used this, that he was of God, the father, and then Joseph was his, you know,

00:08:48.420 stand-in earthly father to basically sanction the unity of two men and some kind of homosexual 0.98

00:08:56.680 bond.

00:08:57.360 And so it's blasphemous in that way, too, not just because it's inaccurate, but it

00:09:01.180 does seem like it's openly making fun of what we know about biblical truth and what

00:09:06.500 we know about the history of Jesus.

00:09:08.880 And so I'm not even sure if any of these people reciting this ridiculous creed are actually

00:09:15.180 taking it seriously.

00:09:16.380 I mean, here's my question, I guess, is why do people like this who clearly, I mean, they

00:09:21.760 think that the Bible is not good enough.

00:09:24.680 They think it's, you know, maybe incomplete or archaic or whatever.

00:09:28.520 They're making God into their own image.

00:09:30.140 Like, why do you think they even waste time either going to seminary or going to church

00:09:35.100 on Sunday if you're going to create this completely vapid and worldly set of beliefs?

00:09:42.840 Because it makes them feel good.

00:09:44.260 And it's all about how they feel.

00:09:45.360 Everything today is about feelings, emotions, isn't it?

00:09:47.440 It's nothing to do with facts.

00:09:48.400 It's nothing to do with faith.

00:09:49.660 It's about their own personal feeling good.

00:09:51.620 They've turned up to church, so they feel good about it.

00:09:53.420 And this pastor, she is the worst because she is a wolf in sheep's clothing, leading 0.97

00:09:57.560 these sheep to damnation, essentially.

00:10:01.100 She's leading souls to hell. 1.00

00:10:02.500 And having people recite this blasphemous creed is a prime example of that. 0.66

00:10:07.240 And you're right.

00:10:07.820 The whole idea of Jesus Christ having two dads, it's painted in a blasphemous way as almost

00:10:13.020 hetero-homoerotic.

00:10:15.060 And it's disregarding Christ's mother.

00:10:18.200 It's disregarding Mary, who was the tabernacle for God, you know, the God-bearer, the theotokos, 0.95

00:10:24.520 and just pushing her out of the picture.

00:10:26.300 So in order to appear inclusive to the homosexual community, she's actually denigrating women

00:10:31.120 and womanhood and motherhood. 0.74

00:10:32.460 And so this is why we should stick to the scriptures and not try to reshape them.

00:10:36.440 Because when you try to include something by adding something, you're removing something

00:10:40.220 accidentally.

00:10:40.800 These things are mutually exclusive.

00:10:45.080 I'm absolutely shocked that not only was she preaching this, that so many people were

00:10:49.140 following along.

00:10:49.760 Yes, she says that the saints of God are as resilient and creative as patches on the AIDS

00:10:56.960 quilt, whatever that means.

00:10:58.400 She also included a reference to Taylor Swift and being a Taylor Swift fan.

00:11:06.540 So there's just a lot going on here.

00:11:19.760 The regional body of the ELCA made national news in May of 2021 after electing the first

00:11:27.940 openly transgender bishop in the progressive denomination's history.

00:11:35.220 And so I'm not sure.

00:11:37.100 I mean, it seems like denominations like this, they don't have a long shelf life because eventually

00:11:43.040 I think people do start asking themselves, wait, why am I here?

00:11:47.120 Sure, this feels good, but it's not offering me anything different than what I see on MSNBC.

00:11:54.380 I mean, if you want community, you can just go to brunch.

00:11:57.860 So it seems like these kind of denominations that let the word of God go by the wayside,

00:12:03.320 they eventually crumble because they don't have a solid foundation.

00:12:06.880 I hope so.

00:12:07.740 I think they also crumble because God will not be mocked.

00:12:09.800 And this is exactly what they're doing.

00:12:10.860 They're mocking God.

00:12:12.080 And church should be challenging.

00:12:13.900 Church isn't easy.

00:12:14.660 Church isn't a club.

00:12:15.380 It isn't a brunch club or a lunch club.

00:12:17.380 It isn't a place for just community.

00:12:19.740 It is a place of community, but it's a community centered on Christ.

00:12:22.240 And if it's not centered on Christ, again, it's centered on ourselves, on our individualism.

00:12:26.360 It becomes selfish and it becomes idolatrous.

00:12:28.800 The church itself becomes an idol or we become an idol.

00:12:31.960 And that is going against the first commandments.

00:12:34.980 So all these people need to do is ask themselves, am I being challenged and am I meeting Christ?

00:12:39.680 And if they're not meeting those two criteria, they need to step out of this church and go towards a mainline church.

00:12:46.140 Yes.

00:12:46.960 Okay.

00:12:47.740 In Germany, there was a pastor, Quentin Caesar, and he will be speaking in German.

00:12:54.580 So for those of you who are listening and not watching, I can translate after.

00:12:58.320 But he has this to say about God in front of an audience.

00:13:05.780 Now it's time to say, we are all the last generation.

00:13:14.840 Now it's time to say, black lives always matter.

00:13:22.060 Now it's time to say, God is queer. 1.00

00:13:30.940 Okay.

00:13:32.180 God is queer. 1.00

00:13:33.260 Black lives always matter.

00:13:34.460 We're part of the last generation.

00:13:36.140 I don't really know what that means, the last generation.

00:13:38.880 I saw your take on Twitter about this.

00:13:41.460 What do you have to say about this, teacher?

00:13:44.420 We have another false teacher.

00:13:46.700 We've got another wolf in sheep's clothing.

00:13:48.760 The Bible warns us so strongly about these people.

00:13:51.100 These people are going to be punished so severely unless they repent.

00:13:54.360 Because it's not just them that's at risk here.

00:13:57.080 They're leading other souls to damnation.

00:13:59.400 God is not queer. 0.85

00:14:00.460 Why would anyone suggest that God is queer?

00:14:02.340 What does queer mean in this context?

00:14:04.460 And as for black lives matter, this motto that is divisive, it's a horrible take from the critical race theory ideology, which is essentially neo-Marxism that separates us all down to black people being victims and white people being oppressors.

00:14:19.420 And the Christian message is simpler than that.

00:14:21.680 The Christian message is there isn't either Jew nor Greek.

00:14:23.800 We are all one in Christ.

00:14:25.400 So black lives matter doesn't make any sense. 1.00

00:14:27.380 What we should say is that all human lives matter because all life is sacred.

00:14:31.700 And that's a pro-life movement that I can get behind.

00:14:34.180 The idea of separating us down to our skin color is toxic and divisive.

00:14:38.100 And that's what this chap seems to be doing.

00:14:39.440 Yeah, and I just my producer just told me that the last generation is a reference to the far left green extremist activist group, the last generation, the group that blocks the highways in Germany to protest supposed looming Armageddon of climate change.

00:14:57.080 And just speaking of that, that's not really what we're talking about.

00:14:59.840 Did you see that Greta Thunberg tweet that was going around that was from five years ago, 2018, where she said, if we don't get it together, that in five years we are going to be wiped out?

00:15:11.960 We've been hearing these things for a very long time because it has kind of become a religious idol.

00:15:17.240 It's become kind of this cult-like thing.

00:15:19.500 You know, people that you identify as being in these crazy cults, they always have these wild eschatological ideas about when the end time is coming.

00:15:28.200 It's always, you know, very imminent for a variety of reasons.

00:15:31.660 Well, the climate cult is pretty similar to that.

00:15:34.820 I mean, they've been guessing the end days for a long time.

00:15:38.040 This guy says that they're in the last generation.

00:15:40.380 So that's another strange part of this so-called, paradoxically called, progressive Christianity is the climate worship, too.

00:15:48.880 Oh, massively so.

00:15:49.680 They worship Gaia.

00:15:50.820 This is a doomsday cult.

00:15:52.380 The world is going to end unless we do something about it now, this climate extremism and this climate so-called crisis.

00:15:58.900 But, of course, as Christians, we're called to be stewards of the earth.

00:16:01.780 The earth is there for us, God's creation.

00:16:04.380 We are here to tend to it, to look after it, but it's here for us.

00:16:07.560 So this idea that we should be reducing the number of human beings on the planet in order to save the planet is bonkers, because without us, there is no point in the planet.

00:16:15.660 You know, the animals are here for our enjoyment and to feed us.

00:16:18.420 The plants are here likewise.

00:16:20.460 So they've got things upside down.

00:16:22.820 And the way that they worship Gaia, and literally with her cathedrals, with big Gaia monuments in recently, it's becoming overt.

00:16:30.080 But a lot of this is coming, and, you know, there's a guy we've just been talking about coming from Germany.

00:16:34.380 Why does all heresy seem to start in Germany?

00:16:36.580 You know, a lot of the heresy around the Protestant movement began in Germany.

00:16:40.380 And the same with the Roman Catholics. 0.97

00:16:41.840 We've got their bishops out there now pushing for female priests and bishops and for approval of gay marriage and all kinds of things that go against the scriptures. 0.99

00:16:51.040 There's something really, really wicked at the heart of Germany. 0.97

00:16:53.900 I don't know what it is.

00:16:56.300 That's really interesting.

00:16:57.540 And I've heard other theories like that, too.

00:16:59.140 They're just very progressive in a lot of ways.

00:17:01.220 I always like to reference this.

00:17:03.800 I like to reference this first because the climate issue, I think, is something that Christians also get hung up on.

00:17:10.460 Like, how are we really supposed to think about this?

00:17:12.320 But you made the distinction beautifully, which, yes, we are supposed to steward the earth.

00:17:16.240 We care about creation.

00:17:17.360 We care about animals.

00:17:18.540 We're kind to animals.

00:17:19.480 We do the best that we can to steward responsibly the resources that we have.

00:17:23.940 But we also don't believe in this climate doom and gloom that, you know, cow emissions are going to be like what thwarts the power of God and finally ends the earth.

00:17:35.380 I like to read Genesis 8, 22, that says, while the earth remains, seed time and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night shall not cease.

00:17:46.840 I mean, that's it for me.

00:17:48.300 Not that, again, I don't have to be responsible with the resources that I have, but I do believe in a God who is authoritative over all of creation.

00:17:57.240 And he promised me all the way back in Genesis 8 that these things are not going to cease.

00:18:02.800 These things are not going to end until he says so.

00:18:06.580 So it's a balance there.

00:18:08.240 Being responsible with what we have and loving the creation that God has made without buying into this paranoia, which is really just siphoning off power to the people who want to control our lives and don't actually care about the climate at all.

00:18:21.020 Oh, it is down to power.

00:18:22.880 If you look at the messages they're sending, the idea, like you mentioned, that cows are exhuming more CO2 than their man-made infrastructure.

00:18:30.480 We know that to be a nonsense, but they're cutting down on farmers and they're culling cows as well as other areas of agriculture.

00:18:36.820 And that seems to be counterintuitive because nature is there for us and we are there for nature.

00:18:41.380 And it's a cycle that supports each other.

00:18:43.880 So cows produce milk that we can drink and beef that we can eat.

00:18:46.640 And that's a good thing.

00:18:47.660 And they're contributing CO2 that we need in the air.

00:18:50.760 That's a good thing.

00:18:51.660 Whereas maybe private jets to Davos, to the World Economic Forum is not a good thing.

00:18:55.480 And we can cut down on that instead.

00:18:57.340 But the priorities are upside down because there's a lot of money to be made from the net zero scam.

00:19:02.440 This whole idea that we should go down to carbon emissions of zero by 2030.

00:19:06.380 First of all, it doesn't practically work, but it means more taxation for the common folk.

00:19:10.000 And while the elite managed to have fun and live the high life.

00:19:14.080 And I went out to Davos to the World Economic Forum this year and I spent about 20 minutes with Greta Thunberg.

00:19:19.220 She had absolutely nothing of any interest to say without her approved narrative in front of her, without a script of bullet points to read from.

00:19:25.800 She had nothing to contribute to the conversation.

00:19:27.500 There's another church in Bristol who invited the climate choir.

00:19:46.320 This is a climate choir.

00:19:47.820 Wow.

00:19:48.100 There's something for everyone.

00:19:49.300 And they were invited by Reverend Canon Johnny Parkin, the Canon missioner at Bristol Cathedral.

00:19:59.080 And here they are singing their climate ballad.

00:20:04.040 Let the end, our dream, be so full of pollution from all the industry.

00:20:17.420 We can't tell our children that we have not tried.

00:20:25.040 Wow, that's really scary.

00:20:29.820 People are watching their, this choir is dressed in like head to toe, all red garb, almost like a geisha, like painting on their face, all white.

00:20:40.740 And then you can hear them say, I don't even know what they said towards the end.

00:20:43.740 We cannot tell our children that we have not tried.

00:20:45.680 A lot of older people, too, seem to be latching on to this.

00:20:49.600 I don't know.

00:20:50.040 What do you make of a display like this?

00:20:52.780 It's difficult not to fall into ad hominems when seeing this display because it is bizarre and these people are bizarre.

00:20:58.780 But my first question was, what religion is this?

00:21:00.940 Because it looks liturgical.

00:21:02.280 They're in some kind of vestments, these red outfits.

00:21:05.280 It looks like a cult.

00:21:06.800 But they're practicing it in Bristol Cathedral.

00:21:09.280 So they've been invited in.

00:21:10.700 And this is extinction rebellion or extremist rebellion, as I call them.

00:21:14.940 But they are showing that the climate cult is truly a cult.

00:21:17.600 And these believers, they have their own hymns, for goodness sake.

00:21:20.520 They're in a church.

00:21:21.240 They've got hymns.

00:21:22.220 They've got vestments.

00:21:23.200 The only thing missing is some kind of sacrifice, which I hope never comes.

00:21:27.380 Yeah.

00:21:28.160 OK.

00:21:28.620 Church of England, which you're familiar with, hires a trans archdeacon, has appointed the first transgender archdeacon in a move hailed by LGBT plus campaigners as a beacon of light and hope.

00:21:44.040 Reverend Canon Dr. Rachel Mann has been appointed archdeacon of Bolton in South and is now believed to be the most senior trans member of the clergy within the church.

00:21:55.180 What do you make of this direction?

00:21:56.720 Oh, dear.

00:21:59.400 So this fellow, Nick Mann, has been promoted to the position of archdeacon, which is a great shame because it shows that the Church of England is affirming this trans ideology, this idea that a man can become a woman and a woman can become a man because your sex is nothing more than how you feel.

00:22:14.280 We know that to be untrue from the scriptures.

00:22:16.120 Again, we can go to Genesis and see that God made us male and female for a purpose.

00:22:19.680 But we can also know that there are differences between men and women, and this is God-ordained. 1.00

00:22:25.280 We are complementary.

00:22:26.500 We're not equal.

00:22:27.380 We're not the same.

00:22:28.260 We are different, but we work together.

00:22:30.360 Men tend to be faster, more athletic, stronger.

00:22:34.280 Therefore, they're protectors and providers.

00:22:36.200 Women tend to be more nurturing and more emotionally intelligent, and they tend to be more maternal and therefore look after children. 0.96

00:22:44.060 These are both very, very good things.

00:22:45.740 These are spiritually good things that are for the promotion of mankind for all of us as a species.

00:22:52.180 So to get denigrated to the point that to become a woman just means wearing lipstick and a dress is making a nonsense of women. 0.99

00:22:58.960 It's a caricature.

00:23:00.380 It's an offensive caricature of what a woman is and what it means to be a woman. 0.96

00:23:05.120 And they're promoting this man, Nick Mann, ironic name there, and pretending that he is a woman.

00:23:11.320 It's a false gospel that they're preaching.

00:23:13.520 There is no such thing as trans. 1.00

00:23:14.860 And if you look at some of the work he's produced, he's written prayers.

00:23:19.160 Holy God, chuckling wise woman, tender and strange, we bless you.

00:23:23.620 Bless us, trouble us, bewitch us into delight in your love, mercy, and grace.

00:23:28.520 Christ, our sister, unite us in your holy bleeding. 1.00

00:23:31.540 I can't even read on because it's just, it's offensive.

00:23:34.060 It's blasphemous.

00:23:35.480 And they're promoting this chap.

00:23:36.520 And I wonder why, I mean, because the Church of England or any of these entities, they could just say no.

00:23:45.080 Even if privately they said, you know what, people can just live how they want to live.

00:23:48.860 They can identify how they want to identify.

00:23:51.260 But this is very basic and fundamental.

00:23:53.380 We're not talking about some secondary or tertiary, like theological disagreement.

00:23:58.420 I mean, we're talking about the first chapter of the first book of the Bible that they are now denying is real.

00:24:03.980 As you said, they're assenting to this idea that a man can become a woman and vice versa. 0.56

00:24:09.160 So is it, do you think that there is outside pressure?

00:24:11.840 Do you think that the leadership within the Church of England actually really actively believes this?

00:24:17.860 I mean, because they could just say, you're, you know, I'm sure you're accepted in the Church,

00:24:22.120 but we're not going to let you ascend to this place of leadership.

00:24:25.920 And yet they have.

00:24:27.600 They had the option not to, and yet they did.

00:24:30.320 So, like, what's pushing this?

00:24:31.820 Is it just total deceit, or is there something else going on?

00:24:35.320 They're captured, unfortunately.

00:24:36.700 The leadership is captured.

00:24:37.660 There are many, many good Christians in the Church of England, both in the laity and in the clergy.

00:24:42.540 But the hierarchy is captured.

00:24:44.720 The House of Bishops, the vast majority of them are what I would call liberal progressives,

00:24:48.800 but not truly liberal, you know, just woke, essentially.

00:24:51.780 And they believe this stuff.

00:24:53.160 And if they don't believe it, they don't want to offend people that do believe this stuff.

00:24:56.480 But they can just say, no, you know, I've had my battles with the Sea of E.

00:24:59.300 I don't believe in critical race theory, gender theory, or queer theory.

00:25:02.580 And I made that very clear that I'm Christian.

00:25:05.140 I'm not a liberal.

00:25:05.900 I think it can only be Christian or a liberal.

00:25:07.240 I made it clear that I'm a Christian.

00:25:08.360 They would call me conservative.

00:25:09.720 But I was pushed out.

00:25:11.440 They said, oh, that's a bit offensive.

00:25:13.020 You know, people today can't be told that, you know, there's no such thing as systemic racism,

00:25:16.220 and or that you're born a man and you're born a woman.

00:25:19.420 That is it.

00:25:20.060 And you are your body.

00:25:20.800 You are your soul.

00:25:21.440 And God loves you the way you are.

00:25:22.300 You can't say that.

00:25:22.880 That's offensive.

00:25:23.340 However, they're pushing the opposite and pushing the idea that you can say that, OK, yeah, the reason that black people are held back in society is because society is racist against them.

00:25:31.900 And a man can become a woman. 1.00

00:25:33.120 A woman can become a man just by self-identifying as such. 0.87

00:25:36.700 And that's all it takes.

00:25:37.500 And as you mentioned earlier,

00:26:07.500 the peril here is not just their own souls.

00:26:12.000 It's also the souls of the people that they're shepherding, that they're leading.

00:26:15.100 I think it's the book of James.

00:26:16.320 You'd probably be able to tell me the exact reference that says that teachers are actually held to a higher standard,

00:26:21.840 or not everyone should aspire to be a teacher because you're held to a higher standard.

00:26:27.140 And I understand you've got a big responsibility there because you are taking responsibility of a flock.

00:26:34.540 If we think about it like a shepherd and a flock, you've got to know the terrain.

00:26:39.260 You've got to know where you're going.

00:26:41.340 You've got to know what the threats are that you're up against.

00:26:46.600 You have to protect the flock from wolves.

00:26:49.240 And yet these shepherds have become the wolves themselves.

00:26:51.780 I just can't imagine that God is going to have very much tolerance for this kind of thing for very long.

00:26:58.460 That's a good word.

00:26:59.420 Yes, God doesn't have tolerance.

00:27:00.900 He doesn't have tolerance for evil.

00:27:02.260 He doesn't have tolerance for sin.

00:27:04.340 And this has become the new creed that would preach tolerance, diversity, inclusion, and equality.

00:27:08.640 These aren't Christian values. 0.91

00:27:10.120 They're not virtues of the faith.

00:27:11.360 Faith, hope, and love are the Christian virtues.

00:27:14.620 But where the New Testament isn't as wrathful as the Old Testament, but where it is wrathful, where God shows that he is intolerant.

00:27:23.980 In two major areas in the New Testament are on harming children or leading children into sin, and on leading his sheep, his flock, into sin.

00:27:32.960 So false teachers and people who cause children to sin are going to feel the wrath of God.

00:27:40.540 This is what the New Testament teaches us.

00:27:42.620 And so this movement is doing both.

00:27:45.040 This trans movement is doing both.

00:27:46.600 People who are calling themselves leaders in the church, who are affirming the trans ideology, or leading the flock astray, but they're also potentially harming children. 0.79

00:27:55.100 Because this has been pushed in Church of England schools against government guidance.

00:27:59.760 It's been pushed that children can change their identity.

00:28:03.300 And actually, at the moment, we're having a real battle in our politics because this is happening without the approval or consent or even conversation with parents.

00:28:11.700 And so teachers who aren't trained in biology or who aren't trained in the trans movement are affirming young children and allowing them to change gender, socially transition, without parents knowing.

00:28:22.880 It's a risk to child safety.

00:28:25.400 It's a safeguarding concern, but it's been pushed by the church.

00:28:27.840 So these people are going to be judged very, very harshly.

00:28:31.460 Yes.

00:28:32.060 And it was James 3.1.

00:28:33.660 Not many of you should become teachers, brothers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness, which should rightly and righteously, I think, put the fear of God and humble a lot of people who do become teachers because they like the feeling of importance or they like the prominence.

00:28:54.420 But again, as we said, they exchange the God of Scripture for the God of self.

00:28:58.160 They actually see themselves as the final authority, not God's word, or they want cultural relevance or whatever it is.

00:29:06.220 Speaking of that gender issue, obviously, we have the same issue, maybe even worse in the United States. 1.00

00:29:11.980 It's currently just a bill right now, but it's probably going to pass and be signed by Gavin Newsom in the state of California that threatens parental custody if they will not affirm so-called their child's stated identity.

00:29:25.640 One of the legislators who was arguing for this bill used an example of her own child, and she used a seven-year-old in her example.

00:29:35.200 So we're talking about like a six, seven-year-old child, maybe five, maybe younger than that.

00:29:40.640 Who knows?

00:29:41.360 I guess covered in this bill could even be toddlers who say that they're the opposite sex.

00:29:45.880 And if the school or a counselor or, I don't know, the doctor's office catches wind that the parent is skeptical of their toddler's so-called gender identity, that parent can lose custody and possibly face criminal charges in the state of California.

00:30:03.560 And as you said, if anyone should be speaking up about this kind of thing, it should be the church.

00:30:09.640 I mean, we have the clear answer to questions like this.

00:30:13.300 What is gender?

00:30:13.900 What is the family?

00:30:14.520 Who's in charge?

00:30:15.400 And the first chapter of the first book of the Bible.

00:30:17.860 And yet you have some professing Christians cheering it on.

00:30:22.880 I mean, it's a pretty scary time, but it also tells us that we who are on the side of sanity really have to be relentless in speaking up.

00:30:31.500 Oh, absolutely.

00:30:32.220 I think this is actually the greatest evil.

00:30:33.840 And I think it's darker than it seems on the surface, because the idea is that children can consent.

00:30:39.000 It's the idea that children can make up their minds about what gender they are and make life-altering decisions at such an early age.

00:30:45.200 When we wouldn't ask a child to decide their own bedtime, we wouldn't ask a child most of the time to decide what they're going to wear today.

00:30:50.920 But we're going to ask them at an early age what sex they think they are and then potentially put them on chemical castration, which we call puberty blockers, and potentially mutilate their bodies, altering them for life. 0.79

00:31:31.680 So a lot of this leads down a very, very dark path.

00:31:34.080 Yeah, and I think we're already seeing where I mean, we're already seeing where that is, especially in the United States, maybe there in the UK, too.

00:31:41.820 But with these pride celebrations in the month of June and some of the books being made available to kids at schools, it's very overt.

00:31:51.220 It is the sexualization of children that seems to go hand in hand with causing a child to think about their identity and if it matches their body and all of these things.

00:32:01.240 I mean, strangers or someone who is not their parents don't need to be talking to kids about sex.

00:32:07.500 They don't need to be talking to kids about things that have to do with their genitalia. 0.84

00:32:11.520 And it's evil.

00:32:12.540 It is evil for the state to pretend that they not only know better for your child, but they actually care about your child more than they do.

00:32:20.680 They don't know your child's name.

00:32:22.240 They don't know your child's birthday.

00:32:24.020 They don't care about what your child's favorite food is.

00:32:26.440 They're not the ones waking up at night when your child wakes up from a bad dream.

00:32:30.480 They weren't there when your child was born, when the doctor laid that child on your chest.

00:32:33.900 They don't love your child.

00:32:35.020 And yet they are willing to to cause you to forfeit your rights if you do not say that your child is the opposite sex and, you know, that they should be put on puberty blockers.

00:32:45.040 I mean, that is that is like, honestly, it is hard for me to think of anything more wicked than that.

00:32:52.980 Yeah, and this is why I think Marxism is a technique of the devil, because it's pushing children onto the state.

00:33:00.720 It's saying, actually, children aren't the responsibility of their parents.

00:33:04.240 Children aren't a blessing from God for parents to look after.

00:33:06.720 Children belong to the state.

00:33:08.000 It's up to the state to decide what's right for children.

00:33:10.760 And it does that via schools.

00:33:12.320 It does that via indoctrination.

00:33:14.140 And they've taken ownership.

00:33:15.740 But this is what the Marxist movement pushes.

00:33:17.780 It takes children away from their parents and puts them into the state, because that's how you break down our way of life.

00:33:22.580 That's how you break down our family.

00:33:24.000 That's how you break down our faith.

00:33:25.540 And essentially, once you've destroyed the faith and the family, you've destroyed Western civilization. 0.97

00:33:29.400 And that is why I think it's of the enemy.

00:33:31.000 One more thing that's always a debate here, and I guess it's also a debate in the UK, although I don't hear about it quite as much going on over there.

00:33:53.400 But it's something that you wrote about recently, this terrible story of a woman who ordered abortion pills to kill the child inside her womb while she was eight months pregnant.

00:34:04.700 The legal limit for abortion in the UK is 24 weeks, which is very liberal.

00:34:08.320 It's very late.

00:34:09.280 That's well into the second trimester, almost third trimester.

00:34:12.500 That's viability, usually when a child has a very good chance of living outside of the womb.

00:34:20.360 And she went to prison because of this.

00:34:24.600 And you had activists over there saying what a travesty it is, not that her child died so brutally, but that she was punished for killing her child.

00:34:32.480 So tell me a little bit about what's going on with the abortion debate over there.

00:34:37.280 Yeah, this is a tough one because we haven't had a conversation around abortion over here for a long, long time.

00:34:43.520 It's been seen as a settled matter, which is a great shame.

00:34:46.100 But thanks to the Roe v. Wade situation over there, it has entered our lexicon again.

00:34:51.700 And as of this latest instance, what we've seen is that a woman broke the law, fraudulently broke the law.

00:34:57.820 She ordered pills by post to kill her baby after the legal limits. 0.52

00:35:01.800 And I don't think we should have pills by post anyway.

00:35:04.320 First of all, I don't think abortion should exist.

00:35:06.180 But if it does exist, it's a situation for a woman, for a mother and child to be at the doctors with a medical professional rather than just receiving something by the post. 0.81

00:35:16.740 That's terrible.

00:35:17.940 But she faked the limit of her pregnancy.

00:35:21.060 And she was past, she was about eight months, which is two to three months past the legal limit.

00:35:25.980 So she broke the law.

00:35:26.840 So she felt the punishment of the law and the consequences of the law.

00:35:29.880 And then activists are saying, well, someone has gone to prison for having an abortion.

00:35:34.280 Therefore, we should decriminalize abortion.

00:35:35.900 And that's completely the wrong argument.

00:35:37.960 If you are arguing that there should be a legal abortion in this country and that there should be a legal limit in this country, then there has to be consequences of that, of breaking that act.

00:35:47.800 But what we're seeing here is that actually people are being wakened up by this.

00:35:52.020 People, people's eyes are being opened by this because they're saying, you know, I know people that have been premature much earlier than eight months and they've lived fulfilled lives, very, very happy lives.

00:36:02.320 And they are people, they are human beings.

00:36:04.700 This is a baby that she killed.

00:36:07.340 And people don't need to see the graphic evidence of what happens when an eight-month-old baby dies to understand that it's wrong.

00:36:15.220 So I think people are starting to question, well, should abortion be happening?

00:36:18.780 And in the UK right now, we're up to over 200,000 abortions every year.

00:36:23.720 There have been 10 million abortions since it was legalized in this country.

00:36:27.660 It cannot be that every single one of those is an extreme circumstance, as the pro-choice lobby likes to put forward.

00:36:34.240 It cannot be.

00:36:35.100 It's a convenience and we need to prevent it.

00:36:37.100 Right, and we're told that these late-term abortions never, ever happen, that it's impossible, that it only happens in these very extreme situations where it's necessary.

00:36:47.400 Well, it's not necessary.

00:36:49.660 The solution, if there's a problem with the pregnancy or if the health of the baby or the mother is on the line, you deliver that baby.

00:36:56.300 Either way, the baby is going to be delivered.

00:36:58.380 The only question is whether that baby is going to be delivered dead or alive.

00:37:01.760 And this woman, very sadly, very tragically, for whatever reason she thought that she had, she ended the life of her child.

00:37:08.160 And while I think that abortion shouldn't exist, too, I mean, if you fall outside of the legal limits, you've committed a crime.

00:37:15.980 And, of course, there should be a punishment for that crime.

00:37:18.720 And I hope that this woman repents. 0.99

00:37:20.320 I hope that she finds Christ.

00:37:21.780 I hope that she finds healing.

00:37:23.240 Absolutely.

00:37:23.680 But, of course, justice and recognizing the dignity of this life that was taken does require a punishment from the justice system.

00:37:34.580 It doesn't surprise me, but it is a shame that a lot of people don't seem to understand that in the so-called social justice world.

00:37:42.760 All right, Father, is there any last word that you can leave us on?

00:37:46.200 Leave us on some hope and encouragement because we just talked about a bunch of depressing things.

00:37:50.640 Yeah, well, I think the hope that comes from this particular situation is that we're having the conversation again.

00:37:56.420 And people are saying, well, what is the limit?

00:37:58.560 And why do we have that limit?

00:37:59.580 And it seems very arbitrary.

00:38:00.860 24 weeks, what does that mean?

00:38:03.660 And people are saying, well, if it was a baby that she killed, then is it not always a baby?

00:38:08.220 When does it become life?

00:38:09.620 And obviously, there are two suggestions.

00:38:11.460 One is it becomes life when it's born.

00:38:14.640 But people are saying, well, no, it's clearly a baby before it's born.

00:38:16.880 Therefore, the other suggestion is it becomes life at conception, which is what I would believe, which is what the faith would teach.

00:38:22.760 And therefore, if more and more people are realizing from this horrible situation that actually babies are babies and they are human beings, from the moment they are conceived, they are alive and they are a life and they are separate from the woman, from the mother's life.

00:38:36.540 If, and this is not a my body, my choice situation, because it's not the mother's body, it's a body within her body that we're talking about.

00:38:43.140 If more people are becoming open to the idea, which I think they are because of this terrible situation, then we can have a conversation about should we remove that legal limit on abortion?

00:38:52.780 Should we get rid of abortion entirely? 1.00

00:38:54.580 Do we need abortion in a civilized society? 0.99

00:38:57.100 I don't think we do.

00:38:57.980 I think it's infanticide.

00:38:59.000 So I'm glad we're, the hope that this brings me is that we're having the conversation and people are opening their eyes to the idea of we should not be killing babies.

00:39:07.500 So there's hope in that.

00:39:09.720 Yes.

00:39:10.200 And there's hope in all the things that we talked about today that it might seem like, oh my gosh, even the professing Christian church is going to hell in a handbasket. 0.96

00:39:18.640 But first of all, God is sovereign.

00:39:20.900 He maintains his remnant.

00:39:22.940 He maintains his church.

00:39:23.980 He knows who are his and the sheep know the voice of the shepherd.

00:39:29.580 And there is still Christians every day advancing God's kingdom, sharing the gospel, standing for truth in the midst of persecution, even in parts of the world, in the face of martyrdom.

00:39:40.060 And God's work doesn't always make headlines, but it is always happening.

00:39:43.840 God's eternal plan of redemption is always going off without a hitch, and there's no crazy Lutheran minister or any crazy climate activist that could even change that scintilla or for a second.

00:39:55.700 So thank you for the work that you do, too, in pushing what is good and right and true.

00:40:00.920 God is using you in incredible ways.

00:40:03.120 How can people follow you, watch you, hear more of your commentary?

00:40:06.640 I have a TV show on GB News at 7 p.m. on Saturdays, but if you're not in the UK, just go to calvinrobinson.com.

00:40:14.340 My Twitter, my Facebook, my Substack links are all on there.

00:40:17.400 And there's a YouTube link to our show that you can watch online if you're not in the UK.

00:40:21.720 Awesome.

00:40:22.240 Thank you so much.

00:40:24.120 Thank you, Ali.

00:40:24.780 God bless.

00:40:25.220 Keep fighting the good fight.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - August 14, 2023

Ep 855 ｜ Responding to 'The Sparkle Creed' & Other Blasphemy ｜ Guest： Fr Calvin Robinson

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