Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - August 29, 2023


Ep 864 ｜ Should You Attend Your Gay Child's Wedding？ ｜ Q&A


Episode Stats

Length

29 minutes

Words per Minute

171.54768

Word Count

4,979

Sentence Count

334

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

6


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.180 How long do I plan to host this podcast?
00:00:03.780 Also, if you are a Christian and your child is gay,
00:00:07.900 do you attend their wedding?
00:00:10.760 What is my favorite kind of music?
00:00:12.980 What do I think about kissing before marriage?
00:00:15.060 We will be answering all these questions and more
00:00:16.940 on today's episode of Relatable.
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00:00:30.000 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable.
00:00:37.500 Hope everyone's having a wonderful day and week.
00:00:39.680 All right, we're gonna answer some of the questions
00:00:41.240 that you guys sent me in today's Q&A episode.
00:00:44.640 They're pretty fun questions.
00:00:45.860 Gosh, sometimes you send me really deep questions
00:00:48.540 and I'm like, okay, that would take the entire episode
00:00:51.920 and I really appreciate them
00:00:53.200 and they require a lot of research and stuff too.
00:00:56.720 Today, they're more on the fun side,
00:00:58.700 but we'll try to sprinkle in some more serious ones too.
00:01:02.400 They're all important.
00:01:03.120 They're always important questions, I think.
00:01:05.400 Y'all send really good questions.
00:01:07.020 Here's an interesting one.
00:01:09.880 How long do you plan to be a podcaster?
00:01:13.780 Well, I can't say that I have like a five-year plan
00:01:16.960 of what exactly things will look like.
00:01:19.780 The media landscape changes so quickly.
00:01:23.160 Five years ago, let's see, five years ago was 2018,
00:01:26.260 which is very hard for me to believe in my mind.
00:01:29.240 I think I would still say like two years ago was 2018.
00:01:33.220 Past five years have just been so crazy,
00:01:35.120 probably for everyone, but especially for us
00:01:36.860 with kids and jobs and all that stuff.
00:01:40.220 Five years ago though,
00:01:42.060 I think most people in conservative media,
00:01:44.080 or maybe a little longer ago than that, maybe 2016,
00:01:47.460 most people in conservative media,
00:01:49.040 I think thought that the pinnacle of your career
00:01:51.440 had to be Fox News,
00:01:53.020 that there was really nowhere else for you to go.
00:01:56.000 And really places like Blaze TV and Daily Wire then,
00:01:58.860 or I guess it was the Blaze then,
00:02:00.400 they were kind of seeing the stepping stones.
00:02:02.500 And you could go there for a little bit
00:02:04.320 at this smaller network
00:02:05.460 and you could kind of build up a name
00:02:07.400 and gain some kind of audience.
00:02:11.280 And then you would make your way to Fox News.
00:02:13.120 And the very pinnacle of that
00:02:14.440 would be hosting your own primetime show.
00:02:17.200 But that really quickly shifted in Trump's presidency
00:02:21.340 as Blaze TV got bigger,
00:02:24.040 as Daily Wire got bigger,
00:02:25.420 other entities got bigger,
00:02:26.680 independent voices got bigger.
00:02:28.480 People realized you really do not need Fox News
00:02:31.800 or any kind of corporate media
00:02:36.100 in order to make money,
00:02:38.500 in order to have an audience,
00:02:40.340 in order to be a conservative commentator
00:02:42.900 or have conservative influence in the media.
00:02:46.320 There are so many different avenues
00:02:48.300 that you can go down.
00:02:49.320 You really can forge your own path.
00:02:51.580 I'm very thankful I started when I did.
00:02:53.140 I started when Facebook was a little bit still
00:02:55.520 like the Wild Wild West 2015.
00:02:58.140 You could still post something
00:02:59.500 and if people liked it,
00:03:00.500 it would just go viral,
00:03:01.620 even if it went against the mainstream narrative.
00:03:04.140 That's what happened to me.
00:03:05.860 And I don't think it's like that anymore.
00:03:07.460 I don't think people can get started
00:03:08.700 just like from absolutely nothing,
00:03:11.100 making a Facebook page
00:03:12.480 and then from that creating a sustainable career.
00:03:15.380 And thank the Lord,
00:03:16.580 that's what happened to me.
00:03:17.300 It wasn't just Facebook.
00:03:18.260 I was also writing on my own.
00:03:20.860 I mean, I had a blog,
00:03:21.940 but I was also going out there
00:03:23.140 and speaking to places for free,
00:03:24.700 literally just asking them,
00:03:25.920 hey, can I come speak at your sorority meeting?
00:03:27.860 Can I come speak at your Young Republicans Club?
00:03:30.660 As, you know, completely a nobody,
00:03:32.800 but just putting myself in situations
00:03:34.520 where I could have an audience
00:03:35.760 and talk about things and hone my craft.
00:03:37.920 And that ended up leading to what I do.
00:03:40.240 I've talked about my story,
00:03:41.320 so I won't get into all of those details.
00:03:44.420 I don't know what episode,
00:03:45.760 but you could probably go back and find it.
00:03:47.420 I have laid out all the details
00:03:48.940 of how I came to do what I do today.
00:03:51.900 And so I definitely had the idea that,
00:03:54.480 oh my gosh, I know it would be so difficult,
00:03:56.380 but one day if I could just be,
00:03:58.960 you know, if I could just have
00:03:59.800 a primetime show on Fox News,
00:04:01.360 oh my gosh, maybe when I'm like 45 or 50,
00:04:04.040 I can be finally like Megyn Kelly.
00:04:06.540 I always loved Megyn Kelly.
00:04:07.620 I still love Megyn Kelly.
00:04:08.680 And so it was so cool
00:04:10.960 when I started being a guest on Fox News.
00:04:13.100 I still remember when I got the email
00:04:14.380 from Fox and Friends asking me if I could be a guest
00:04:16.900 and it was just amazing and all this stuff.
00:04:19.280 But then I realized over time,
00:04:21.120 wow, I have more flexibility and more freedom
00:04:25.600 and have probably like a bigger audience
00:04:29.840 of people my age, you know,
00:04:32.240 making videos on social media at the time
00:04:34.900 and blogging and speaking that I would
00:04:37.780 if I went to Fox News.
00:04:39.900 And maybe even making more money too,
00:04:43.180 depending on, you know,
00:04:44.020 if I had gone to Fox News at that time,
00:04:46.600 it would have been like very entry level kind of thing.
00:04:49.240 Or at least more opportunity to make more money.
00:04:54.240 And so, yeah, so it's shifted so much
00:04:58.120 that I would never,
00:04:59.440 and I honestly don't know
00:05:01.260 any conservative commentator or podcast host that would,
00:05:06.720 I would never want to move to New York
00:05:09.840 and work for Fox News.
00:05:11.480 Like that would literally give me no benefit.
00:05:15.040 It would give me zero benefit
00:05:16.860 to move somewhere like Fox News
00:05:19.240 and host my own show.
00:05:20.960 Doing what I do now is 10 times better
00:05:23.480 for someone like me,
00:05:24.700 maybe not for everyone,
00:05:25.580 but for someone like me
00:05:26.660 than to be on Fox News.
00:05:27.820 I get to talk about so many things
00:05:29.360 however I want to.
00:05:31.020 I'm never restrained at all.
00:05:32.780 I'm not part of some corporate entity
00:05:34.680 that is pushing all the pride stuff
00:05:36.440 like Fox News is.
00:05:38.220 And it has so much more flexibility
00:05:40.780 for me and my family.
00:05:42.000 And every conservative podcaster I know
00:05:44.140 feels the same way.
00:05:45.440 And there's endless opportunity
00:05:47.020 too within this realm.
00:05:49.280 I say all that to say
00:05:50.440 that as much as it's changed
00:05:52.700 over the past five years,
00:05:54.580 it's probably going to change a lot
00:05:55.880 over the next five years too.
00:05:57.840 So I know this is kind of
00:06:00.200 a long-winded answer.
00:06:01.120 I only have a few questions
00:06:02.160 that I'm going to answer today.
00:06:04.000 But I don't know
00:06:05.280 what the media landscape
00:06:06.300 will look like in five years.
00:06:08.220 I'm very thankful,
00:06:09.600 very thankful to the Lord
00:06:10.880 that I, not everyone,
00:06:13.380 by the way,
00:06:13.720 who started on social media
00:06:14.760 was able to evolve
00:06:16.260 and change to actually grow
00:06:18.880 like a sustainable platform,
00:06:20.360 like write a book
00:06:21.260 and continue to speak
00:06:22.320 and to have a podcast.
00:06:23.460 Some people,
00:06:24.020 they just thrived on social media
00:06:25.600 and making the two-minute rants
00:06:27.180 and they just weren't able
00:06:28.180 to move with
00:06:30.200 the changing media landscape.
00:06:32.600 And so you never know
00:06:33.480 when that's going to happen to you.
00:06:35.260 And I never know
00:06:36.200 like what God is,
00:06:37.620 you know,
00:06:37.980 is going to call us to.
00:06:39.220 Our lives could look
00:06:39.920 very different in two years.
00:06:42.720 I will say,
00:06:43.680 I love doing what I do.
00:06:45.460 I'm very passionate
00:06:46.320 about doing what I do.
00:06:47.400 I feel called to do what I do.
00:06:49.500 And so for any of you
00:06:50.520 who are like,
00:06:50.900 oh, don't leave us hanging,
00:06:52.740 I don't plan to do that.
00:06:54.560 I plan to do this
00:06:56.060 for as long as God calls me to.
00:06:58.140 And I'm always doing
00:06:59.080 what you guys are doing,
00:07:00.340 which is doing
00:07:00.980 the next right thing
00:07:01.860 in faith with excellence
00:07:02.860 and for the glory of God.
00:07:04.500 So who knows?
00:07:06.040 But there will absolutely
00:07:07.820 be different things
00:07:09.480 that I'm a part of,
00:07:10.320 different things
00:07:10.980 that I create over time.
00:07:12.900 I think that's a lot,
00:07:14.020 that's a direction
00:07:15.340 that a lot of people
00:07:16.000 in media are going toward
00:07:17.860 is that we want to create things,
00:07:21.880 not just like host daily shows,
00:07:23.500 which is important,
00:07:24.180 but we really want to create
00:07:25.580 like substantive things
00:07:27.420 that are moving the needle.
00:07:29.000 And so we'll see
00:07:30.480 what that looks like for me.
00:07:32.100 We'll see.
00:07:33.020 But I'm glad
00:07:33.900 that you guys are here.
00:07:34.820 I'm glad to be doing
00:07:35.580 what I'm doing.
00:07:36.660 And I truly love Relatable.
00:07:39.320 What it has grown to be
00:07:40.560 is just like a testament
00:07:42.500 to God's faithfulness
00:07:43.400 and also to y'all's loyalty.
00:07:44.620 So thank you for that.
00:07:53.500 OK, favorite character
00:07:59.040 from The Office.
00:08:00.740 It's got to be Michael.
00:08:01.920 It's got to be Michael.
00:08:02.900 Although I am one
00:08:03.820 of the rare people,
00:08:05.000 at least who I talked to,
00:08:07.840 that actually liked it
00:08:09.340 after Michael left.
00:08:10.340 Like, I still thought
00:08:11.460 it was really funny.
00:08:13.020 Robert California,
00:08:14.200 such an uncomfortable character,
00:08:16.240 but funny.
00:08:17.000 I still love those episodes,
00:08:20.800 those seasons
00:08:21.520 after like Andy becomes
00:08:23.580 the boss and stuff.
00:08:25.060 Like, I'm totally fine with it.
00:08:26.100 But yeah, Michael is my favorite
00:08:27.440 in that he probably
00:08:28.120 made me laugh the most.
00:08:29.240 But also Jim,
00:08:30.460 just like Jim's subtlety
00:08:31.680 and his humor.
00:08:33.280 One of my favorites.
00:08:35.300 Probably my least favorite
00:08:36.640 is Karen.
00:08:38.340 I'm sorry,
00:08:39.020 but I don't really,
00:08:39.880 I don't really like
00:08:40.680 that actress that much
00:08:42.100 in anything,
00:08:43.140 like including in Parks and Rec.
00:08:45.200 It's just,
00:08:45.640 I don't know if it's just
00:08:46.300 the characters that she plays
00:08:47.520 or what it is.
00:08:48.620 Not trying to be rude,
00:08:49.820 but yeah,
00:08:50.960 you didn't even ask
00:08:51.600 for my least favorite.
00:08:52.420 I just volunteered
00:08:53.060 that information.
00:08:55.420 Thoughts on kissing
00:08:56.820 before marriage.
00:08:59.900 Okay, so the Bible
00:09:00.820 isn't clear about
00:09:02.080 can you hold hands?
00:09:03.220 Can you sit right
00:09:05.560 next to each other?
00:09:06.660 Can you watch a movie
00:09:07.540 together at night?
00:09:08.680 Can you kiss?
00:09:09.840 If you can kiss,
00:09:10.760 can you open your mouth?
00:09:11.780 Can you make out?
00:09:12.820 Like, can you interlace
00:09:14.080 your fingers
00:09:14.540 when you're holding hands?
00:09:15.340 Can you only do pancake?
00:09:16.920 Like, there are
00:09:17.840 a lot of questions
00:09:19.060 that we could be asking
00:09:20.540 that the Bible
00:09:21.840 doesn't specifically address.
00:09:23.420 The Bible does specifically
00:09:24.660 address sexual purity
00:09:26.380 and having a heart
00:09:27.300 that is following
00:09:28.440 after Christ,
00:09:29.340 pursuing holiness
00:09:30.140 as God is holy,
00:09:31.460 of course,
00:09:31.880 through spirit-powered
00:09:33.040 sanctification
00:09:34.260 and ensuring
00:09:36.640 that sex
00:09:37.700 and the sexual act
00:09:38.880 is exclusive
00:09:40.000 to marriage
00:09:41.920 between a man
00:09:43.040 and a woman.
00:09:43.420 And we see that reiterated
00:09:44.400 throughout Scripture.
00:09:45.500 And that's for
00:09:46.680 our protection.
00:09:49.080 It's also for
00:09:49.700 the glory of God
00:09:50.740 because a man
00:09:51.500 and a woman
00:09:52.020 being together
00:09:52.820 in marriage
00:09:53.420 is a reflection
00:09:54.240 of Christ in the church
00:09:55.320 and the sexual act
00:09:56.820 is a holy bond
00:09:57.900 that ties souls together.
00:10:00.800 And so,
00:10:01.360 it's a beautiful gift
00:10:02.800 that God gave
00:10:04.200 human beings
00:10:04.920 not just for the sake
00:10:06.100 of pleasure
00:10:06.760 but also for the sake
00:10:07.840 of procreation.
00:10:08.760 And so,
00:10:10.420 because that's so sacred
00:10:12.060 and because God
00:10:13.220 specifically ordains it
00:10:14.880 for the boundary
00:10:17.500 that is set
00:10:18.580 by the institution
00:10:20.460 of marriage,
00:10:22.220 I think that,
00:10:23.680 understanding what sex is,
00:10:25.220 understanding what marriage is,
00:10:26.520 understanding that the body
00:10:27.560 is supposed to be
00:10:28.200 a temple for the Holy Spirit,
00:10:29.620 understanding that we are
00:10:30.380 supposed to be a vessel
00:10:31.520 of God's glory,
00:10:32.840 understanding our purpose
00:10:33.800 to pursue
00:10:34.920 sanctification and holiness
00:10:36.680 by the power
00:10:37.640 of the Holy Spirit.
00:10:39.120 All of that is where
00:10:39.920 we should start
00:10:40.800 when we are talking about
00:10:41.980 what should boundaries
00:10:42.960 be in dating.
00:10:43.960 It's the same thing
00:10:44.680 with modesty.
00:10:45.800 We don't read in the Bible
00:10:46.740 that, okay,
00:10:47.480 our skirt can only be
00:10:48.660 this many inches
00:10:49.460 above our knee
00:10:50.200 or our neckline
00:10:51.360 can only go this low
00:10:52.660 or we can wear
00:10:53.940 spaghetti straps
00:10:55.080 or tank tops
00:10:56.380 that are,
00:10:57.160 you know,
00:10:57.980 this many inches in width.
00:10:59.280 We don't read
00:11:00.600 those specific stipulations
00:11:01.840 but when we go back
00:11:03.120 to the core of,
00:11:04.540 well, okay,
00:11:04.920 who is God?
00:11:06.100 What does he call us to?
00:11:07.300 Who am I?
00:11:08.460 As an image bearer
00:11:09.660 and as a Christian,
00:11:11.120 we can understand
00:11:12.160 what the Bible means
00:11:12.980 by modesty.
00:11:13.780 We can understand
00:11:14.380 what the Bible means
00:11:15.320 by sexual purity,
00:11:17.580 that it might not be
00:11:19.040 these little minute rules
00:11:20.900 but from a heart
00:11:23.360 and from a place
00:11:24.240 that wants to honor God
00:11:25.720 as much as possible,
00:11:27.080 not just try to find a way
00:11:29.240 to maybe not technically sin,
00:11:32.020 we order our boundaries
00:11:34.260 and we order our lives,
00:11:35.380 we order our actions,
00:11:36.420 we order our appearance
00:11:37.860 accordingly.
00:11:39.460 And so I think
00:11:40.540 that what that probably means
00:11:42.300 is because sex,
00:11:44.560 so in this context,
00:11:45.520 because sex is reserved
00:11:46.840 for marriage,
00:11:48.100 anything that provokes
00:11:49.920 our heart,
00:11:50.800 provokes our bodies,
00:11:51.800 provokes our minds
00:11:53.200 towards lust,
00:11:56.480 towards engaging
00:11:58.860 in an act
00:12:00.160 that is not meant
00:12:01.020 for two dating people,
00:12:02.300 that is not meant
00:12:03.120 for two single people,
00:12:05.000 that our boundaries
00:12:07.080 should keep us
00:12:07.900 as far from that lust
00:12:10.040 as we can.
00:12:11.280 That doesn't mean
00:12:11.780 that we can't desire
00:12:13.080 to be with that person.
00:12:14.260 Of course,
00:12:14.520 that's normal.
00:12:15.240 Of course,
00:12:15.560 sexual feelings are normal.
00:12:16.940 Sexual attraction is normal.
00:12:18.640 God gave us these things.
00:12:20.480 But just as every desire is,
00:12:22.260 it's supposed to be
00:12:23.200 put into the proper context.
00:12:25.400 And so,
00:12:26.180 just as Song of Solomon says,
00:12:27.460 like,
00:12:27.560 we don't want to stir
00:12:28.500 our affections before,
00:12:30.480 or we don't want to
00:12:31.500 awaken love
00:12:32.620 before it so desires.
00:12:34.240 We don't want to stir
00:12:35.120 certain affections
00:12:36.120 when they cannot be satisfied
00:12:38.140 in a godly context.
00:12:40.640 And so,
00:12:41.320 that's going to mean,
00:12:43.020 possibly,
00:12:44.220 and there are obviously
00:12:46.580 boundaries to what
00:12:48.220 I'm about to say,
00:12:49.620 but it could be different
00:12:51.440 for different people.
00:12:54.120 Again,
00:12:54.760 in some ways.
00:12:55.580 And the same thing
00:12:56.180 with modesty,
00:12:56.860 like,
00:12:57.100 there are going to be
00:12:57.760 some hard and fast rules
00:12:58.900 that Christians say,
00:13:00.500 no,
00:13:00.680 we're not going to wear that.
00:13:01.760 That is too far.
00:13:02.640 That's obvious.
00:13:03.800 But then,
00:13:04.280 in other ways,
00:13:04.920 there are some nuances.
00:13:06.120 I think the same is true
00:13:07.620 when it comes to
00:13:08.880 what you can engage in
00:13:10.600 before marriage.
00:13:12.020 I will say,
00:13:12.860 like,
00:13:13.080 probably laying down
00:13:14.680 and making out
00:13:15.460 on the couch
00:13:16.200 when you're dating
00:13:17.000 or even engaged
00:13:18.020 is not going to help you
00:13:20.220 in your path to purity.
00:13:22.260 It's just probably not.
00:13:23.720 It's naturally awakening
00:13:25.580 a desire that God gave you
00:13:27.080 that, again,
00:13:27.560 cannot be satisfied
00:13:29.000 in a God-glorifying way.
00:13:31.280 Really,
00:13:31.620 the most important thing here
00:13:32.780 is that we remember
00:13:33.840 that reading the Bible,
00:13:35.640 following God,
00:13:36.200 is not just about
00:13:37.420 what can we get away with
00:13:39.240 and technically
00:13:39.780 still be a Christian.
00:13:41.240 What can we get away with
00:13:42.640 and not feel super,
00:13:44.020 super guilty about it?
00:13:45.720 Like,
00:13:46.040 and I'm,
00:13:46.600 you know,
00:13:46.920 preaching to the choir.
00:13:47.540 This is true in all areas,
00:13:49.100 by the way.
00:13:50.300 And we all have to make sure
00:13:51.700 that we are doing this,
00:13:53.020 that we are doing everything
00:13:55.600 that we possibly can
00:13:57.080 to glorify God
00:13:58.940 in everything that we think,
00:14:00.220 say,
00:14:00.320 and do.
00:14:00.600 So it's not
00:14:01.320 what can I get away with,
00:14:02.280 but how can I glorify God
00:14:04.280 to the utmost
00:14:05.440 in what I wear
00:14:06.320 and how I act,
00:14:07.560 certainly in the realm
00:14:08.580 of sexual purity,
00:14:09.300 because we do read
00:14:10.440 that sexual sin
00:14:11.760 is different than other sins.
00:14:12.960 It's not the same
00:14:13.580 as other sins
00:14:14.040 because you are sinning
00:14:14.860 against your own body,
00:14:16.520 which was bought
00:14:17.080 with a price.
00:14:18.280 So people like to say,
00:14:19.360 oh,
00:14:19.580 well,
00:14:19.860 sin is sin.
00:14:21.720 In a sense that,
00:14:22.780 yeah,
00:14:22.980 it separates us all from God.
00:14:24.580 It makes us all guilty.
00:14:26.060 Certainly,
00:14:26.580 we all need to be
00:14:27.580 bought by Christ,
00:14:28.660 but sexual sin
00:14:29.780 is distinct
00:14:30.560 in that you are sinning
00:14:31.300 against your own body,
00:14:32.280 which God says,
00:14:33.100 if you are a Christian,
00:14:33.780 is a dwelling place
00:14:34.500 for the Holy Spirit.
00:14:35.480 So it's a really big deal.
00:14:36.940 There is heart involvement,
00:14:38.340 soul involvement,
00:14:39.200 mental,
00:14:39.620 emotional involvement
00:14:40.660 in any kind of physical act
00:14:42.460 with someone
00:14:43.000 that you love
00:14:43.640 or like or attracted to.
00:14:45.280 And that is why God
00:14:46.220 gives us the boundaries
00:14:46.960 that he does.
00:14:48.040 So really,
00:14:48.840 as far away
00:14:49.520 as you can stay
00:14:50.520 from that sexual act
00:14:51.820 while you are not married,
00:14:53.740 probably the better,
00:14:56.540 I would say.
00:14:57.880 I don't think that means
00:14:59.080 like a blanket prohibition
00:15:00.600 on all kissing.
00:15:01.840 I don't think that means
00:15:02.660 a blanket prohibition
00:15:03.500 on all cuddling,
00:15:04.400 on all handholding,
00:15:05.540 on all touching.
00:15:07.180 I would probably say
00:15:08.940 that you probably
00:15:10.160 shouldn't spend
00:15:10.880 a whole lot of time
00:15:12.080 alone together
00:15:12.980 in the dark.
00:15:14.540 Just seems kind of common sense
00:15:16.460 if you are trying
00:15:18.320 to honor God
00:15:19.160 in your sexual relationship
00:15:20.660 and stay within the boundaries
00:15:21.880 that he has lovingly
00:15:23.100 placed for us.
00:15:25.280 There's a whole lot more
00:15:26.200 that we can talk about on that,
00:15:27.200 but those are my initial thoughts.
00:15:28.280 Okay, favorite type of music.
00:15:42.520 Favorite type of music.
00:15:43.700 Gosh,
00:15:44.100 I used to pride myself
00:15:46.140 on being someone
00:15:47.100 who like found cool music
00:15:48.720 when I was in high school.
00:15:49.720 I used to love to burn CDs.
00:15:51.900 And on Apple Music,
00:15:53.500 they,
00:15:53.960 you could like print a cover
00:15:55.480 for the burnt CD
00:15:57.280 that would create like a,
00:15:59.480 out of all the album art,
00:16:00.920 would create like a collage
00:16:04.580 of album art
00:16:05.920 that I thought was so cool.
00:16:07.160 I would do that
00:16:07.760 for any boyfriend that I had.
00:16:09.540 Even up to my,
00:16:10.620 like my husband
00:16:11.700 when we were dating.
00:16:13.260 This is like my move.
00:16:15.220 I would like make,
00:16:16.880 I would burn a CD
00:16:17.920 and then like print out,
00:16:21.580 it had to be colored ink too.
00:16:22.820 And print out the collage
00:16:25.460 of album art
00:16:26.180 and like put it
00:16:27.100 within the like plastic CD case.
00:16:30.340 And so I used to like
00:16:31.620 really pride myself
00:16:32.560 on making those CDs
00:16:33.840 and finding cool music
00:16:35.600 that people hadn't heard before.
00:16:38.260 But I don't know,
00:16:39.660 after high school,
00:16:41.460 really,
00:16:42.060 and then after college,
00:16:44.240 well,
00:16:44.460 I guess I met my husband
00:16:45.200 after college.
00:16:46.080 I don't know.
00:16:46.880 Sometime after that,
00:16:47.680 I stopped caring
00:16:48.240 about that kind of thing.
00:16:49.440 I don't even know
00:16:49.980 what my favorite music is.
00:16:51.140 I love 80s and 90s music.
00:16:53.400 I do love 80s and 90s music.
00:16:54.940 I can tolerate some country.
00:16:56.580 I grew up listening
00:16:57.240 to mostly country
00:16:57.980 and Christian music.
00:16:59.520 And as far as Christian music goes,
00:17:02.380 there's only like a few
00:17:03.560 that I like really consistently like.
00:17:05.820 I really like Shane and Shane.
00:17:07.200 I would say
00:17:07.480 that's probably my go-to
00:17:08.520 when it comes to Christian music.
00:17:10.560 And again,
00:17:11.020 I like some country music.
00:17:12.320 Like I like the like
00:17:13.360 Zach Bryan,
00:17:14.500 like Morgan Wallen
00:17:15.760 type country music
00:17:16.820 that we're getting now
00:17:17.700 better than what we were getting
00:17:19.300 a few years ago.
00:17:20.140 I won't name names,
00:17:21.200 but we had some real
00:17:22.240 cringe country music
00:17:23.320 coming down the pap land
00:17:24.520 a couple of years ago,
00:17:25.560 a few years ago now.
00:17:27.040 Didn't like it.
00:17:29.400 I'm not really in.
00:17:30.800 Surprise.
00:17:31.340 I know this is going to shock y'all.
00:17:32.520 I'm not really into rap.
00:17:34.320 I know.
00:17:35.220 You're,
00:17:35.600 I know you're taken aback.
00:17:37.200 You had to pause this podcast
00:17:38.800 and say,
00:17:39.340 I don't,
00:17:39.860 I don't even know
00:17:40.380 if I know this woman anymore.
00:17:42.400 Um,
00:17:43.640 uh,
00:17:44.380 let's see.
00:17:44.980 So yeah,
00:17:45.480 I don't know
00:17:45.860 if that answers your question.
00:17:47.000 Just anything with like
00:17:47.760 a good solid beat.
00:17:50.160 I like,
00:17:51.020 I like that,
00:17:52.040 but it's also got to have like
00:17:53.560 good music.
00:17:56.220 That's why I can't
00:17:57.220 include rap in that.
00:17:58.720 And I can't stand stupid lyrics.
00:18:01.060 Cannot,
00:18:01.740 cannot,
00:18:02.160 cannot.
00:18:03.280 Um,
00:18:03.780 how do I like my eggs?
00:18:05.740 How do I like to eat my eggs?
00:18:07.240 Um,
00:18:07.660 let's see.
00:18:09.480 Probably mostly,
00:18:11.100 well,
00:18:11.280 no fried.
00:18:12.060 Definitely fried.
00:18:12.620 I was going to say scrambled,
00:18:13.980 but no,
00:18:14.700 it's fried.
00:18:15.600 And I don't know
00:18:16.400 if that's mostly a Southern thing.
00:18:18.040 I feel like if I tried to eat
00:18:19.440 fried eggs in the Midwest,
00:18:20.540 I'd be scared.
00:18:22.340 You have to do,
00:18:23.680 um,
00:18:24.340 bacon first.
00:18:25.700 You have to cook your bacon
00:18:26.660 and then you have to fry the eggs
00:18:29.020 in the bacon grease.
00:18:31.860 And you,
00:18:33.900 you,
00:18:34.480 obviously the pan is already hot.
00:18:36.160 And so you cook it
00:18:37.800 until it's,
00:18:39.260 you know,
00:18:39.520 the white part
00:18:41.160 has kind of congealed
00:18:42.360 the egg white.
00:18:43.660 And then you take it off the heat
00:18:45.960 after that.
00:18:47.080 And then you flip it over,
00:18:48.760 but only for like a few seconds.
00:18:50.700 You don't want the white part
00:18:52.260 to be gooey,
00:18:53.140 but you do want the yolk
00:18:55.900 to be liquid.
00:18:57.560 That's a good,
00:18:58.360 and I love,
00:18:58.920 I love fried eggs
00:19:00.120 like on most things.
00:19:02.460 Like I could eat it on salad.
00:19:04.060 I could eat it on hamburgers.
00:19:07.240 Yeah.
00:19:07.660 Fried eggs,
00:19:08.260 but only in bacon grease.
00:19:09.640 Like don't try to do it
00:19:10.400 in olive oil
00:19:10.960 or something healthy like that.
00:19:13.040 Um,
00:19:14.160 if you could have dinner
00:19:15.220 with three people
00:19:16.140 living or dead,
00:19:18.780 who would they be?
00:19:20.440 Uh,
00:19:20.680 one of them is definitely
00:19:21.600 C.S. Lewis.
00:19:23.480 Oh,
00:19:24.220 other ones.
00:19:25.120 I honestly don't
00:19:26.660 know.
00:19:28.520 I'm like,
00:19:28.840 whose mind could I change?
00:19:30.280 Probably someone
00:19:31.080 who professes to be a Christian
00:19:32.280 and is like super,
00:19:33.720 is like on the left.
00:19:34.880 I'd probably just like
00:19:35.700 want to change their mind.
00:19:37.080 Um,
00:19:38.400 maybe I could try to reason
00:19:39.840 with someone who has
00:19:40.560 like a lot of power,
00:19:41.820 like George Soros' son
00:19:44.280 or something like that.
00:19:46.320 Um,
00:19:46.840 oh,
00:19:47.080 I would love to,
00:19:48.380 which maybe,
00:19:49.280 maybe she would,
00:19:49.860 maybe she'll see this
00:19:50.920 and she'll say,
00:19:51.980 maybe she will go to dinner
00:19:53.140 with me.
00:19:53.460 I would love to go to dinner
00:19:54.340 with Megyn Kelly.
00:19:55.040 I love her.
00:19:56.520 I love being on her show.
00:19:57.660 She was on my show once
00:19:58.960 and I want to be her friend.
00:20:01.940 Um,
00:20:02.740 let's see,
00:20:03.820 probably,
00:20:04.560 I mean,
00:20:05.460 I could say,
00:20:06.280 I could say Jesus.
00:20:07.620 That would definitely
00:20:08.440 be interesting.
00:20:09.480 I would have a lot
00:20:10.160 of questions for him,
00:20:11.280 but I mean,
00:20:12.200 I've got all eternity
00:20:13.260 for that,
00:20:14.020 so I don't know
00:20:14.640 if I would,
00:20:15.660 I don't,
00:20:15.980 and I guess with C.S. Lewis too,
00:20:19.080 so I don't know.
00:20:20.240 C.S. Lewis,
00:20:20.560 I used to say Ronald Reagan,
00:20:22.000 but I'm not sure
00:20:22.840 if that's true anymore.
00:20:25.040 I don't know,
00:20:25.500 maybe Corrie ten Boom,
00:20:26.880 that would be really interesting.
00:20:28.160 Maybe one of the founding fathers.
00:20:30.400 I always think about,
00:20:31.580 like,
00:20:31.740 how would I explain
00:20:33.380 some,
00:20:34.500 how would I explain,
00:20:35.240 like,
00:20:35.340 the iPhone
00:20:35.920 to the founding fathers?
00:20:37.280 Like,
00:20:37.460 how would I explain,
00:20:38.620 um,
00:20:39.640 the picture
00:20:40.280 of the White House
00:20:42.140 with the transgender flag
00:20:44.000 hanging from it?
00:20:44.680 Like,
00:20:44.820 how would I,
00:20:45.320 how would I,
00:20:46.700 John Adams,
00:20:47.620 like,
00:20:47.740 how would I explain this?
00:20:49.300 There would be so many things
00:20:50.620 that I would have to explain
00:20:51.700 leading up
00:20:52.680 to their understanding
00:20:54.040 of our modern technology
00:20:56.940 and culture.
00:20:58.200 I'd like to challenge myself
00:20:59.680 to think about
00:21:00.980 how much I understand
00:21:02.500 that I could explain it
00:21:03.500 to them in a way
00:21:04.320 that the other day,
00:21:05.940 well,
00:21:06.240 the other day
00:21:06.600 as I'm recording this,
00:21:07.520 when I was talking
00:21:08.060 to one of my guests
00:21:08.900 about these synthetic
00:21:10.680 human,
00:21:12.000 quote unquote,
00:21:12.520 embryos
00:21:13.000 that are being created
00:21:13.720 in a lab
00:21:14.260 that could apparently
00:21:15.200 maybe one day
00:21:16.140 grow into human-like creatures,
00:21:18.980 um,
00:21:19.360 I was thinking,
00:21:20.140 I was like,
00:21:20.420 you know what,
00:21:21.040 this,
00:21:21.340 someone explaining
00:21:22.020 this to me
00:21:22.740 is like me
00:21:23.300 trying to explain
00:21:24.340 an iPhone
00:21:24.860 to a founding father.
00:21:26.020 I feel like
00:21:26.900 there are a lot
00:21:27.520 of steps
00:21:28.220 before this
00:21:29.180 that I really
00:21:30.040 need to understand
00:21:31.380 and I don't,
00:21:33.480 like,
00:21:33.580 my mind can't grasp
00:21:35.280 like a non-human
00:21:37.320 embryo
00:21:38.160 being implanted
00:21:39.620 into a woman
00:21:40.340 and then growing
00:21:40.860 into something
00:21:41.340 that looks like
00:21:42.120 a human,
00:21:42.680 that looks like
00:21:43.440 an image bearer of God
00:21:44.300 but doesn't actually
00:21:44.920 have human DNA.
00:21:46.660 And so,
00:21:47.020 I feel like things,
00:21:48.040 just technology
00:21:48.600 goes so fast
00:21:49.400 that I,
00:21:50.180 those of us
00:21:50.720 who try to understand
00:21:51.820 technology
00:21:52.300 can't even understand
00:21:53.380 where it's going.
00:21:55.080 Um,
00:21:56.140 anyway,
00:21:56.660 I don't even remember
00:21:57.440 what the question was.
00:21:58.760 Uh,
00:21:59.240 okay,
00:21:59.720 next,
00:22:01.100 oh,
00:22:01.380 the dinner with
00:22:02.520 three people.
00:22:03.560 Yeah,
00:22:03.900 it'd be really interesting.
00:22:05.060 Elizabeth Elliott,
00:22:05.900 that's another one.
00:22:06.880 It'd be really interesting
00:22:07.760 to try to explain
00:22:08.600 things to these people
00:22:09.460 but really I would want
00:22:10.380 them to explain
00:22:11.120 concepts to me.
00:22:18.600 Controversial question,
00:22:25.940 be a controversial answer.
00:22:27.500 My child is gay,
00:22:29.120 someone says,
00:22:30.400 do I go to his wedding?
00:22:33.360 Um,
00:22:33.940 of course,
00:22:35.320 if you're a Christian,
00:22:35.920 I'm going to say
00:22:36.480 you should not
00:22:37.800 because you would be
00:22:39.640 celebrating
00:22:40.160 what God calls sin.
00:22:42.080 And I totally,
00:22:43.920 completely understand
00:22:45.380 the desire
00:22:46.120 to celebrate
00:22:47.060 and to love
00:22:47.780 and to affirm
00:22:48.300 your child
00:22:48.880 and the possibility
00:22:50.120 of severing
00:22:51.900 a relationship
00:22:52.400 with your child.
00:22:53.660 Severing a relationship
00:22:54.580 should they somehow
00:22:55.840 try to create
00:22:57.060 a child
00:22:58.200 that they raise
00:22:58.820 themselves?
00:23:00.160 Um,
00:23:00.300 severing
00:23:00.780 that potential
00:23:01.520 relationship.
00:23:02.360 Like,
00:23:02.620 that is really,
00:23:04.000 really difficult.
00:23:05.480 That is a tough
00:23:06.380 decision to make.
00:23:07.380 I think a lot of people
00:23:08.440 will tell you
00:23:09.040 just do it.
00:23:09.780 You're not celebrating
00:23:10.500 the sin.
00:23:11.000 You're celebrating
00:23:11.560 that person.
00:23:12.740 You're making them
00:23:13.420 feel loved
00:23:14.040 but you can't,
00:23:14.940 you can't separate that.
00:23:16.220 You can't separate that.
00:23:17.600 You're not celebrating
00:23:18.360 them as a person.
00:23:18.980 You are celebrating
00:23:19.580 a union
00:23:20.720 that God does not
00:23:21.620 call marriage,
00:23:22.400 that God would not
00:23:23.040 call a wedding,
00:23:23.740 that God actually
00:23:24.300 calls sin.
00:23:25.480 And because God
00:23:26.020 is more loving
00:23:26.620 than us,
00:23:27.840 He's more compassionate
00:23:28.840 than us.
00:23:29.280 He actually loves
00:23:30.520 your child
00:23:31.300 more than you do.
00:23:32.720 He cares about
00:23:33.320 His soul
00:23:33.800 and His heart
00:23:34.440 more than you do.
00:23:36.000 I don't think
00:23:36.660 in love
00:23:37.640 we can celebrate
00:23:38.500 that it's something
00:23:39.720 that God calls bad,
00:23:40.860 that God calls wrong.
00:23:41.880 Their union
00:23:42.640 is not an Ephesians 5
00:23:44.300 reflection of Christ
00:23:45.140 in the church,
00:23:45.740 therefore it's not
00:23:46.840 representative of the gospel.
00:23:48.560 It's not what we see
00:23:49.740 in the very beginning
00:23:51.440 when God created
00:23:52.260 the male and female.
00:23:53.540 It is a complete
00:23:55.020 rejection of that.
00:23:56.700 And so I think
00:23:57.460 celebrating that
00:23:58.160 which God calls sin
00:23:59.100 is a sin in itself.
00:24:01.100 And it is going
00:24:02.500 to hurt
00:24:03.100 His feelings,
00:24:04.120 absolutely.
00:24:05.260 And that is,
00:24:06.020 no one wants to do that.
00:24:07.180 No, I understand.
00:24:08.200 No one wants to do that.
00:24:09.860 But Jesus does say,
00:24:11.860 like,
00:24:12.060 if you're not willing
00:24:13.620 to hate
00:24:16.040 in, you know,
00:24:17.380 a certain sense
00:24:18.140 your father and mother,
00:24:19.280 your sister,
00:24:19.800 brother,
00:24:20.200 your son or daughter,
00:24:21.120 then you are not worthy
00:24:21.860 to follow me.
00:24:23.100 Taking up our cross,
00:24:24.140 following Christ,
00:24:24.980 even when it is
00:24:25.780 extremely difficult,
00:24:26.960 even when it severs
00:24:27.800 relationships,
00:24:28.480 even though that's
00:24:29.040 never the desire
00:24:30.020 or the goal,
00:24:31.200 that is a really
00:24:32.440 difficult part
00:24:33.260 of the Christian life.
00:24:35.060 I think that you
00:24:35.720 can pursue that
00:24:36.680 relationship
00:24:37.240 in a lot of
00:24:37.860 different ways.
00:24:38.400 You can try
00:24:38.960 to explain
00:24:40.280 to your child
00:24:42.220 what went
00:24:43.160 into this decision
00:24:44.000 and why
00:24:45.320 you won't be there,
00:24:46.380 but ultimately
00:24:46.900 your fidelity
00:24:47.600 is to God
00:24:48.340 and His word.
00:24:49.800 And I know
00:24:50.360 people will say,
00:24:51.320 oh, that's unloving.
00:24:52.760 We're called
00:24:53.100 to love people.
00:24:54.280 We don't get
00:24:54.840 to define love.
00:24:55.980 Love is not
00:24:56.440 affirming
00:24:56.800 someone's feelings.
00:24:57.880 Love is not
00:24:58.320 affirming
00:24:58.680 someone in their sin.
00:25:00.120 How does
00:25:00.480 1 Corinthians 13
00:25:01.400 define love?
00:25:02.400 Love does not
00:25:03.080 rejoice in wrongdoing,
00:25:04.700 but rejoices
00:25:05.640 with the truth.
00:25:08.120 So anytime
00:25:09.580 we see someone
00:25:11.200 say, well,
00:25:11.580 you have to love
00:25:12.160 people.
00:25:12.540 Yeah, of course.
00:25:13.380 We love it how
00:25:14.260 we love people,
00:25:15.260 how God
00:25:16.260 tells us to love
00:25:17.320 people because God
00:25:18.040 is love.
00:25:18.600 1 John 4, 8.
00:25:19.320 He defines love.
00:25:20.300 1 Corinthians 13.
00:25:22.040 So we don't really
00:25:22.960 have the authority
00:25:23.720 to define love
00:25:24.400 as anything other
00:25:25.160 than what God
00:25:25.680 says it is.
00:25:26.260 We will never
00:25:26.800 love people
00:25:27.360 by disagreeing
00:25:28.120 with God
00:25:28.520 or celebrating
00:25:29.100 with what God
00:25:29.780 celebrating
00:25:30.400 what God
00:25:30.820 calls sin.
00:25:32.440 Okay.
00:25:33.640 You can only
00:25:34.680 listen to
00:25:35.220 one musical
00:25:36.220 artist for
00:25:37.200 the rest
00:25:38.500 of your life.
00:25:40.260 Who would
00:25:41.280 it be?
00:25:43.180 Hillary Duff.
00:25:44.600 Obviously.
00:25:45.660 Just kidding.
00:25:47.660 One musical
00:25:48.820 artist.
00:25:49.460 I mean,
00:25:49.720 probably,
00:25:50.500 I know I already
00:25:51.240 said this,
00:25:51.640 probably Shane
00:25:52.160 and Shane.
00:25:52.800 I really love
00:25:53.380 their voices.
00:25:54.040 I love their
00:25:54.460 harmony.
00:25:54.840 but there's
00:25:56.920 a lot of
00:25:57.620 good artists
00:25:58.980 out there.
00:26:00.280 I don't know.
00:26:00.940 That's like the
00:26:01.500 one that comes
00:26:02.000 to mind
00:26:02.580 right now.
00:26:04.980 But honestly,
00:26:06.780 as much as I
00:26:08.100 don't agree
00:26:08.720 with Bethel
00:26:09.300 theology,
00:26:10.800 their voices
00:26:11.580 are very
00:26:12.360 powerful
00:26:13.020 and very
00:26:16.260 listenable
00:26:17.020 to me.
00:26:20.640 Gosh,
00:26:21.280 I don't know.
00:26:21.960 I don't know.
00:26:22.360 One artist
00:26:23.240 for the rest
00:26:23.920 of my life.
00:26:25.120 I need to
00:26:26.020 look at my
00:26:27.300 Spotify
00:26:27.820 and who do
00:26:29.020 I even
00:26:30.580 listen to?
00:26:32.100 I can tell
00:26:32.740 you who it's
00:26:33.180 not.
00:26:33.680 It's not
00:26:34.200 Fergie.
00:26:35.920 It's not
00:26:37.000 Miley Cyrus.
00:26:39.320 That is for
00:26:40.000 sure.
00:26:40.440 It's definitely
00:26:41.120 not Britney
00:26:42.040 Spears,
00:26:42.660 who I think
00:26:43.320 used to have
00:26:43.960 a good voice
00:26:44.600 and something
00:26:45.500 happened.
00:26:47.600 I'm sorry,
00:26:48.880 Brie,
00:26:49.160 but it wouldn't
00:26:49.680 be Taylor Swift.
00:26:51.080 Would it be
00:26:51.540 yours?
00:26:52.060 Is that for
00:26:52.440 the rest
00:26:52.720 of your
00:26:52.960 life?
00:26:54.100 Yeah.
00:26:54.560 Brie says
00:26:54.960 yes.
00:26:55.300 It's not
00:26:55.600 that I
00:26:55.860 don't like
00:26:56.340 her voice
00:26:58.100 or her music.
00:26:58.880 I'm not sure
00:26:59.540 that I could
00:26:59.860 listen to that
00:27:00.300 for the rest
00:27:00.600 of my life.
00:27:01.320 The theology
00:27:01.860 reflected in
00:27:02.640 her songs
00:27:03.180 really makes
00:27:03.600 me sad.
00:27:05.620 I don't
00:27:06.160 know,
00:27:06.360 maybe like
00:27:06.880 70s or
00:27:07.560 80s or
00:27:08.280 someone like
00:27:08.880 that or
00:27:10.160 someone within
00:27:11.720 that realm.
00:27:13.780 I really
00:27:14.480 also like
00:27:15.400 Broadway voices.
00:27:17.280 It could be
00:27:17.920 Idina
00:27:18.440 Menzel or
00:27:19.060 someone like
00:27:19.600 that.
00:27:19.900 If I
00:27:20.660 could recruit
00:27:21.440 someone from
00:27:21.940 Broadway to
00:27:22.660 sing a bunch
00:27:23.200 of hymns,
00:27:24.500 for me,
00:27:25.680 I could put
00:27:26.280 that on repeat
00:27:26.960 for a long
00:27:27.600 time, I
00:27:28.200 think.
00:27:29.160 I do have
00:27:29.900 like a
00:27:30.260 hymns for
00:27:30.880 moms playlist
00:27:33.240 on Spotify
00:27:36.180 and there's a
00:27:37.980 lot of,
00:27:38.560 I also like,
00:27:39.780 okay,
00:27:40.140 I really,
00:27:41.020 okay,
00:27:41.280 someone asked
00:27:41.880 me what's my
00:27:42.360 favorite kind
00:27:42.740 of music.
00:27:43.040 I would
00:27:43.680 say like
00:27:44.440 70s and
00:27:45.640 80s,
00:27:47.180 semi-country,
00:27:50.940 like Americana
00:27:52.160 type stuff.
00:27:54.680 That's,
00:27:55.100 I do really
00:27:55.760 like that.
00:27:57.080 Like a
00:27:57.480 little,
00:27:58.660 well,
00:27:59.100 this is rock.
00:28:00.340 Leonard,
00:28:00.720 I like some
00:28:01.420 Leonard Skinner,
00:28:02.140 I like some
00:28:02.660 Alabama,
00:28:04.560 I like some
00:28:06.860 like Credence
00:28:07.900 Clearwater
00:28:08.540 Revival.
00:28:09.460 uh,
00:28:11.560 yeah,
00:28:12.060 I like that
00:28:12.640 kind of stuff
00:28:13.060 and also like
00:28:13.760 like the kind
00:28:14.500 of stuff that
00:28:14.980 we would swing
00:28:16.020 dance to when
00:28:17.000 we were in
00:28:17.360 college because
00:28:17.820 I went to
00:28:18.080 college in
00:28:18.440 South Carolina.
00:28:19.620 Like the
00:28:20.200 Brown Eyed
00:28:20.740 Girl,
00:28:21.080 that type of
00:28:21.600 stuff.
00:28:21.940 I like that
00:28:22.340 kind of music.
00:28:24.060 All right,
00:28:24.980 I think those
00:28:25.520 are all the
00:28:25.880 questions that
00:28:26.380 I'm going to
00:28:26.700 ask today.
00:28:27.280 What a wide
00:28:27.760 range of
00:28:28.180 things.
00:28:29.220 Okay,
00:28:29.740 thanks so much
00:28:30.480 for listening.
00:28:31.120 We will be
00:28:31.780 back here soon.
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