Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 864 ｜ Should You Attend Your Gay Child's Wedding？

00:00:00.180 How long do I plan to host this podcast?

00:00:03.780 Also, if you are a Christian and your child is gay,

00:00:07.900 do you attend their wedding?

00:00:10.760 What is my favorite kind of music?

00:00:12.980 What do I think about kissing before marriage?

00:00:15.060 We will be answering all these questions and more

00:00:16.940 on today's episode of Relatable.

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00:00:30.000 Hey guys, welcome to Relatable.

00:00:37.500 Hope everyone's having a wonderful day and week.

00:00:39.680 All right, we're gonna answer some of the questions

00:00:41.240 that you guys sent me in today's Q&A episode.

00:00:44.640 They're pretty fun questions.

00:00:45.860 Gosh, sometimes you send me really deep questions

00:00:48.540 and I'm like, okay, that would take the entire episode

00:00:51.920 and I really appreciate them

00:00:53.200 and they require a lot of research and stuff too.

00:00:56.720 Today, they're more on the fun side,

00:00:58.700 but we'll try to sprinkle in some more serious ones too.

00:01:02.400 They're all important.

00:01:03.120 They're always important questions, I think.

00:01:05.400 Y'all send really good questions.

00:01:07.020 Here's an interesting one.

00:01:09.880 How long do you plan to be a podcaster?

00:01:13.780 Well, I can't say that I have like a five-year plan

00:01:16.960 of what exactly things will look like.

00:01:19.780 The media landscape changes so quickly.

00:01:23.160 Five years ago, let's see, five years ago was 2018,

00:01:26.260 which is very hard for me to believe in my mind.

00:01:29.240 I think I would still say like two years ago was 2018.

00:01:33.220 Past five years have just been so crazy,

00:01:35.120 probably for everyone, but especially for us

00:01:36.860 with kids and jobs and all that stuff.

00:01:40.220 Five years ago though,

00:01:42.060 I think most people in conservative media,

00:01:44.080 or maybe a little longer ago than that, maybe 2016,

00:01:47.460 most people in conservative media,

00:01:49.040 I think thought that the pinnacle of your career

00:01:51.440 had to be Fox News,

00:01:53.020 that there was really nowhere else for you to go.

00:01:56.000 And really places like Blaze TV and Daily Wire then,

00:01:58.860 or I guess it was the Blaze then,

00:02:00.400 they were kind of seeing the stepping stones.

00:02:02.500 And you could go there for a little bit

00:02:04.320 at this smaller network

00:02:05.460 and you could kind of build up a name

00:02:07.400 and gain some kind of audience.

00:02:11.280 And then you would make your way to Fox News.

00:02:13.120 And the very pinnacle of that

00:02:14.440 would be hosting your own primetime show.

00:02:17.200 But that really quickly shifted in Trump's presidency

00:02:21.340 as Blaze TV got bigger,

00:02:24.040 as Daily Wire got bigger,

00:02:25.420 other entities got bigger,

00:02:26.680 independent voices got bigger.

00:02:28.480 People realized you really do not need Fox News

00:02:31.800 or any kind of corporate media

00:02:36.100 in order to make money,

00:02:38.500 in order to have an audience,

00:02:40.340 in order to be a conservative commentator

00:02:42.900 or have conservative influence in the media.

00:02:46.320 There are so many different avenues

00:02:48.300 that you can go down.

00:02:49.320 You really can forge your own path.

00:02:51.580 I'm very thankful I started when I did.

00:02:53.140 I started when Facebook was a little bit still

00:02:55.520 like the Wild Wild West 2015.

00:02:58.140 You could still post something

00:02:59.500 and if people liked it,

00:03:00.500 it would just go viral,

00:03:01.620 even if it went against the mainstream narrative.

00:03:04.140 That's what happened to me.

00:03:05.860 And I don't think it's like that anymore.

00:03:07.460 I don't think people can get started

00:03:08.700 just like from absolutely nothing,

00:03:11.100 making a Facebook page

00:03:12.480 and then from that creating a sustainable career.

00:03:15.380 And thank the Lord,

00:03:16.580 that's what happened to me.

00:03:17.300 It wasn't just Facebook.

00:03:18.260 I was also writing on my own.

00:03:20.860 I mean, I had a blog,

00:03:21.940 but I was also going out there

00:03:23.140 and speaking to places for free,

00:03:24.700 literally just asking them,

00:03:25.920 hey, can I come speak at your sorority meeting?

00:03:27.860 Can I come speak at your Young Republicans Club?

00:03:30.660 As, you know, completely a nobody,

00:03:32.800 but just putting myself in situations

00:03:34.520 where I could have an audience

00:03:35.760 and talk about things and hone my craft.

00:03:37.920 And that ended up leading to what I do.

00:03:40.240 I've talked about my story,

00:03:41.320 so I won't get into all of those details.

00:03:44.420 I don't know what episode,

00:03:45.760 but you could probably go back and find it.

00:03:47.420 I have laid out all the details

00:03:48.940 of how I came to do what I do today.

00:03:51.900 And so I definitely had the idea that,

00:03:54.480 oh my gosh, I know it would be so difficult,

00:03:56.380 but one day if I could just be,

00:03:58.960 you know, if I could just have

00:03:59.800 a primetime show on Fox News,

00:04:01.360 oh my gosh, maybe when I'm like 45 or 50,

00:04:04.040 I can be finally like Megyn Kelly.

00:04:06.540 I always loved Megyn Kelly.

00:04:07.620 I still love Megyn Kelly.

00:04:08.680 And so it was so cool

00:04:10.960 when I started being a guest on Fox News.

00:04:13.100 I still remember when I got the email

00:04:14.380 from Fox and Friends asking me if I could be a guest

00:04:16.900 and it was just amazing and all this stuff.

00:04:19.280 But then I realized over time,

00:04:21.120 wow, I have more flexibility and more freedom

00:04:25.600 and have probably like a bigger audience

00:04:29.840 of people my age, you know,

00:04:32.240 making videos on social media at the time

00:04:34.900 and blogging and speaking that I would

00:04:37.780 if I went to Fox News.

00:04:39.900 And maybe even making more money too,

00:04:43.180 depending on, you know,

00:04:44.020 if I had gone to Fox News at that time,

00:04:46.600 it would have been like very entry level kind of thing.

00:04:49.240 Or at least more opportunity to make more money.

00:04:54.240 And so, yeah, so it's shifted so much

00:04:58.120 that I would never,

00:04:59.440 and I honestly don't know

00:05:01.260 any conservative commentator or podcast host that would,

00:05:06.720 I would never want to move to New York

00:05:09.840 and work for Fox News.

00:05:11.480 Like that would literally give me no benefit.

00:05:15.040 It would give me zero benefit

00:05:16.860 to move somewhere like Fox News

00:05:19.240 and host my own show.

00:05:20.960 Doing what I do now is 10 times better

00:05:23.480 for someone like me,

00:05:24.700 maybe not for everyone,

00:05:25.580 but for someone like me

00:05:26.660 than to be on Fox News.

00:05:27.820 I get to talk about so many things

00:05:29.360 however I want to.

00:05:31.020 I'm never restrained at all.

00:05:32.780 I'm not part of some corporate entity

00:05:34.680 that is pushing all the pride stuff

00:05:36.440 like Fox News is.

00:05:38.220 And it has so much more flexibility

00:05:40.780 for me and my family.

00:05:42.000 And every conservative podcaster I know

00:05:44.140 feels the same way.

00:05:45.440 And there's endless opportunity

00:05:47.020 too within this realm.

00:05:49.280 I say all that to say

00:05:50.440 that as much as it's changed

00:05:52.700 over the past five years,

00:05:54.580 it's probably going to change a lot

00:05:55.880 over the next five years too.

00:05:57.840 So I know this is kind of

00:06:00.200 a long-winded answer.

00:06:01.120 I only have a few questions

00:06:02.160 that I'm going to answer today.

00:06:04.000 But I don't know

00:06:05.280 what the media landscape

00:06:06.300 will look like in five years.

00:06:08.220 I'm very thankful,

00:06:09.600 very thankful to the Lord

00:06:10.880 that I, not everyone,

00:06:13.380 by the way,

00:06:13.720 who started on social media

00:06:14.760 was able to evolve

00:06:16.260 and change to actually grow

00:06:18.880 like a sustainable platform,

00:06:20.360 like write a book

00:06:21.260 and continue to speak

00:06:22.320 and to have a podcast.

00:06:23.460 Some people,

00:06:24.020 they just thrived on social media

00:06:25.600 and making the two-minute rants

00:06:27.180 and they just weren't able

00:06:28.180 to move with

00:06:30.200 the changing media landscape.

00:06:32.600 And so you never know

00:06:33.480 when that's going to happen to you.

00:06:35.260 And I never know

00:06:36.200 like what God is,

00:06:37.620 you know,

00:06:37.980 is going to call us to.

00:06:39.220 Our lives could look

00:06:39.920 very different in two years.

00:06:42.720 I will say,

00:06:43.680 I love doing what I do.

00:06:45.460 I'm very passionate

00:06:46.320 about doing what I do.

00:06:47.400 I feel called to do what I do.

00:06:49.500 And so for any of you

00:06:50.520 who are like,

00:06:50.900 oh, don't leave us hanging,

00:06:52.740 I don't plan to do that.

00:06:54.560 I plan to do this

00:06:56.060 for as long as God calls me to.

00:06:58.140 And I'm always doing

00:06:59.080 what you guys are doing,

00:07:00.340 which is doing

00:07:00.980 the next right thing

00:07:01.860 in faith with excellence

00:07:02.860 and for the glory of God.

00:07:04.500 So who knows?

00:07:06.040 But there will absolutely

00:07:07.820 be different things

00:07:09.480 that I'm a part of,

00:07:10.320 different things

00:07:10.980 that I create over time.

00:07:12.900 I think that's a lot,

00:07:14.020 that's a direction

00:07:15.340 that a lot of people

00:07:16.000 in media are going toward

00:07:17.860 is that we want to create things,

00:07:21.880 not just like host daily shows,

00:07:23.500 which is important,

00:07:24.180 but we really want to create

00:07:25.580 like substantive things

00:07:27.420 that are moving the needle.

00:07:29.000 And so we'll see

00:07:30.480 what that looks like for me.

00:07:32.100 We'll see.

00:07:33.020 But I'm glad

00:07:33.900 that you guys are here.

00:07:34.820 I'm glad to be doing

00:07:35.580 what I'm doing.

00:07:36.660 And I truly love Relatable.

00:07:39.320 What it has grown to be

00:07:40.560 is just like a testament

00:07:42.500 to God's faithfulness

00:07:43.400 and also to y'all's loyalty.

00:07:44.620 So thank you for that.

00:07:53.500 OK, favorite character

00:07:59.040 from The Office.

00:08:00.740 It's got to be Michael.

00:08:01.920 It's got to be Michael.

00:08:02.900 Although I am one

00:08:03.820 of the rare people,

00:08:05.000 at least who I talked to,

00:08:07.840 that actually liked it

00:08:09.340 after Michael left.

00:08:10.340 Like, I still thought

00:08:11.460 it was really funny.

00:08:13.020 Robert California,

00:08:14.200 such an uncomfortable character,

00:08:16.240 but funny.

00:08:17.000 I still love those episodes,

00:08:20.800 those seasons

00:08:21.520 after like Andy becomes

00:08:23.580 the boss and stuff.

00:08:25.060 Like, I'm totally fine with it.

00:08:26.100 But yeah, Michael is my favorite

00:08:27.440 in that he probably

00:08:28.120 made me laugh the most.

00:08:29.240 But also Jim,

00:08:30.460 just like Jim's subtlety

00:08:31.680 and his humor.

00:08:33.280 One of my favorites.

00:08:35.300 Probably my least favorite

00:08:36.640 is Karen.

00:08:38.340 I'm sorry,

00:08:39.020 but I don't really,

00:08:39.880 I don't really like

00:08:40.680 that actress that much

00:08:42.100 in anything,

00:08:43.140 like including in Parks and Rec.

00:08:45.200 It's just,

00:08:45.640 I don't know if it's just

00:08:46.300 the characters that she plays

00:08:47.520 or what it is.

00:08:48.620 Not trying to be rude,

00:08:49.820 but yeah,

00:08:50.960 you didn't even ask

00:08:51.600 for my least favorite.

00:08:52.420 I just volunteered

00:08:53.060 that information.

00:08:55.420 Thoughts on kissing

00:08:56.820 before marriage.

00:08:59.900 Okay, so the Bible

00:09:00.820 isn't clear about

00:09:02.080 can you hold hands?

00:09:03.220 Can you sit right

00:09:05.560 next to each other?

00:09:06.660 Can you watch a movie

00:09:07.540 together at night?

00:09:08.680 Can you kiss?

00:09:09.840 If you can kiss,

00:09:10.760 can you open your mouth?

00:09:11.780 Can you make out?

00:09:12.820 Like, can you interlace

00:09:14.080 your fingers

00:09:14.540 when you're holding hands?

00:09:15.340 Can you only do pancake?

00:09:16.920 Like, there are

00:09:17.840 a lot of questions

00:09:19.060 that we could be asking

00:09:20.540 that the Bible

00:09:21.840 doesn't specifically address.

00:09:23.420 The Bible does specifically

00:09:24.660 address sexual purity

00:09:26.380 and having a heart

00:09:27.300 that is following

00:09:28.440 after Christ,

00:09:29.340 pursuing holiness

00:09:30.140 as God is holy,

00:09:31.460 of course,

00:09:31.880 through spirit-powered

00:09:33.040 sanctification

00:09:34.260 and ensuring

00:09:36.640 that sex

00:09:37.700 and the sexual act

00:09:38.880 is exclusive

00:09:40.000 to marriage

00:09:41.920 between a man

00:09:43.040 and a woman.

00:09:43.420 And we see that reiterated

00:09:44.400 throughout Scripture.

00:09:45.500 And that's for

00:09:46.680 our protection.

00:09:49.080 It's also for

00:09:49.700 the glory of God

00:09:50.740 because a man

00:09:51.500 and a woman

00:09:52.020 being together

00:09:52.820 in marriage

00:09:53.420 is a reflection

00:09:54.240 of Christ in the church

00:09:55.320 and the sexual act

00:09:56.820 is a holy bond

00:09:57.900 that ties souls together.

00:10:00.800 And so,

00:10:01.360 it's a beautiful gift

00:10:02.800 that God gave

00:10:04.200 human beings

00:10:04.920 not just for the sake

00:10:06.100 of pleasure

00:10:06.760 but also for the sake

00:10:07.840 of procreation.

00:10:08.760 And so,

00:10:10.420 because that's so sacred

00:10:12.060 and because God

00:10:13.220 specifically ordains it

00:10:14.880 for the boundary

00:10:17.500 that is set

00:10:18.580 by the institution

00:10:20.460 of marriage,

00:10:22.220 I think that,

00:10:23.680 understanding what sex is,

00:10:25.220 understanding what marriage is,

00:10:26.520 understanding that the body

00:10:27.560 is supposed to be

00:10:28.200 a temple for the Holy Spirit,

00:10:29.620 understanding that we are

00:10:30.380 supposed to be a vessel

00:10:31.520 of God's glory,

00:10:32.840 understanding our purpose

00:10:33.800 to pursue

00:10:34.920 sanctification and holiness

00:10:36.680 by the power

00:10:37.640 of the Holy Spirit.

00:10:39.120 All of that is where

00:10:39.920 we should start

00:10:40.800 when we are talking about

00:10:41.980 what should boundaries

00:10:42.960 be in dating.

00:10:43.960 It's the same thing

00:10:44.680 with modesty.

00:10:45.800 We don't read in the Bible

00:10:46.740 that, okay,

00:10:47.480 our skirt can only be

00:10:48.660 this many inches

00:10:49.460 above our knee

00:10:50.200 or our neckline

00:10:51.360 can only go this low

00:10:52.660 or we can wear

00:10:53.940 spaghetti straps

00:10:55.080 or tank tops

00:10:56.380 that are,

00:10:57.160 you know,

00:10:57.980 this many inches in width.

00:10:59.280 We don't read

00:11:00.600 those specific stipulations

00:11:01.840 but when we go back

00:11:03.120 to the core of,

00:11:04.540 well, okay,

00:11:04.920 who is God?

00:11:06.100 What does he call us to?

00:11:07.300 Who am I?

00:11:08.460 As an image bearer

00:11:09.660 and as a Christian,

00:11:11.120 we can understand

00:11:12.160 what the Bible means

00:11:12.980 by modesty.

00:11:13.780 We can understand

00:11:14.380 what the Bible means

00:11:15.320 by sexual purity,

00:11:17.580 that it might not be

00:11:19.040 these little minute rules

00:11:20.900 but from a heart

00:11:23.360 and from a place

00:11:24.240 that wants to honor God

00:11:25.720 as much as possible,

00:11:27.080 not just try to find a way

00:11:29.240 to maybe not technically sin,

00:11:32.020 we order our boundaries

00:11:34.260 and we order our lives,

00:11:35.380 we order our actions,

00:11:36.420 we order our appearance

00:11:37.860 accordingly.

00:11:39.460 And so I think

00:11:40.540 that what that probably means

00:11:42.300 is because sex,

00:11:44.560 so in this context,

00:11:45.520 because sex is reserved

00:11:46.840 for marriage,

00:11:48.100 anything that provokes

00:11:49.920 our heart,

00:11:50.800 provokes our bodies,

00:11:51.800 provokes our minds

00:11:53.200 towards lust,

00:11:56.480 towards engaging

00:11:58.860 in an act

00:12:00.160 that is not meant

00:12:01.020 for two dating people,

00:12:02.300 that is not meant

00:12:03.120 for two single people,

00:12:05.000 that our boundaries

00:12:07.080 should keep us

00:12:07.900 as far from that lust

00:12:10.040 as we can.

00:12:11.280 That doesn't mean

00:12:11.780 that we can't desire

00:12:13.080 to be with that person.

00:12:14.260 Of course,

00:12:14.520 that's normal.

00:12:15.240 Of course,

00:12:15.560 sexual feelings are normal.

00:12:16.940 Sexual attraction is normal.

00:12:18.640 God gave us these things.

00:12:20.480 But just as every desire is,

00:12:22.260 it's supposed to be

00:12:23.200 put into the proper context.

00:12:25.400 And so,

00:12:26.180 just as Song of Solomon says,

00:12:27.460 like,

00:12:27.560 we don't want to stir

00:12:28.500 our affections before,

00:12:30.480 or we don't want to

00:12:31.500 awaken love

00:12:32.620 before it so desires.

00:12:34.240 We don't want to stir

00:12:35.120 certain affections

00:12:36.120 when they cannot be satisfied

00:12:38.140 in a godly context.

00:12:40.640 And so,

00:12:41.320 that's going to mean,

00:12:43.020 possibly,

00:12:44.220 and there are obviously

00:12:46.580 boundaries to what

00:12:48.220 I'm about to say,

00:12:49.620 but it could be different

00:12:51.440 for different people.

00:12:54.120 Again,

00:12:54.760 in some ways.

00:12:55.580 And the same thing

00:12:56.180 with modesty,

00:12:56.860 like,

00:12:57.100 there are going to be

00:12:57.760 some hard and fast rules

00:12:58.900 that Christians say,

00:13:00.500 no,

00:13:00.680 we're not going to wear that.

00:13:01.760 That is too far.

00:13:02.640 That's obvious.

00:13:03.800 But then,

00:13:04.280 in other ways,

00:13:04.920 there are some nuances.

00:13:06.120 I think the same is true

00:13:07.620 when it comes to

00:13:08.880 what you can engage in

00:13:10.600 before marriage.

00:13:12.020 I will say,

00:13:12.860 like,

00:13:13.080 probably laying down

00:13:14.680 and making out

00:13:15.460 on the couch

00:13:16.200 when you're dating

00:13:17.000 or even engaged

00:13:18.020 is not going to help you

00:13:20.220 in your path to purity.

00:13:22.260 It's just probably not.

00:13:23.720 It's naturally awakening

00:13:25.580 a desire that God gave you

00:13:27.080 that, again,

00:13:27.560 cannot be satisfied

00:13:29.000 in a God-glorifying way.

00:13:31.280 Really,

00:13:31.620 the most important thing here

00:13:32.780 is that we remember

00:13:33.840 that reading the Bible,

00:13:35.640 following God,

00:13:36.200 is not just about

00:13:37.420 what can we get away with

00:13:39.240 and technically

00:13:39.780 still be a Christian.

00:13:41.240 What can we get away with

00:13:42.640 and not feel super,

00:13:44.020 super guilty about it?

00:13:45.720 Like,

00:13:46.040 and I'm,

00:13:46.600 you know,

00:13:46.920 preaching to the choir.

00:13:47.540 This is true in all areas,

00:13:49.100 by the way.

00:13:50.300 And we all have to make sure

00:13:51.700 that we are doing this,

00:13:53.020 that we are doing everything

00:13:55.600 that we possibly can

00:13:57.080 to glorify God

00:13:58.940 in everything that we think,

00:14:00.220 say,

00:14:00.320 and do.

00:14:00.600 So it's not

00:14:01.320 what can I get away with,

00:14:02.280 but how can I glorify God

00:14:04.280 to the utmost

00:14:05.440 in what I wear

00:14:06.320 and how I act,

00:14:07.560 certainly in the realm

00:14:08.580 of sexual purity,

00:14:09.300 because we do read

00:14:10.440 that sexual sin

00:14:11.760 is different than other sins.

00:14:12.960 It's not the same

00:14:13.580 as other sins

00:14:14.040 because you are sinning

00:14:14.860 against your own body,

00:14:16.520 which was bought

00:14:17.080 with a price.

00:14:18.280 So people like to say,

00:14:19.360 oh,

00:14:19.580 well,

00:14:19.860 sin is sin.

00:14:21.720 In a sense that,

00:14:22.780 yeah,

00:14:22.980 it separates us all from God.

00:14:24.580 It makes us all guilty.

00:14:26.060 Certainly,

00:14:26.580 we all need to be

00:14:27.580 bought by Christ,

00:14:28.660 but sexual sin

00:14:29.780 is distinct

00:14:30.560 in that you are sinning

00:14:31.300 against your own body,

00:14:32.280 which God says,

00:14:33.100 if you are a Christian,

00:14:33.780 is a dwelling place

00:14:34.500 for the Holy Spirit.

00:14:35.480 So it's a really big deal.

00:14:36.940 There is heart involvement,

00:14:38.340 soul involvement,

00:14:39.200 mental,

00:14:39.620 emotional involvement

00:14:40.660 in any kind of physical act

00:14:42.460 with someone

00:14:43.000 that you love

00:14:43.640 or like or attracted to.

00:14:45.280 And that is why God

00:14:46.220 gives us the boundaries

00:14:46.960 that he does.

00:14:48.040 So really,

00:14:48.840 as far away

00:14:49.520 as you can stay

00:14:50.520 from that sexual act

00:14:51.820 while you are not married,

00:14:53.740 probably the better,

00:14:56.540 I would say.

00:14:57.880 I don't think that means

00:14:59.080 like a blanket prohibition

00:15:00.600 on all kissing.

00:15:01.840 I don't think that means

00:15:02.660 a blanket prohibition

00:15:03.500 on all cuddling,

00:15:04.400 on all handholding,

00:15:05.540 on all touching.

00:15:07.180 I would probably say

00:15:08.940 that you probably

00:15:10.160 shouldn't spend

00:15:10.880 a whole lot of time

00:15:12.080 alone together

00:15:12.980 in the dark.

00:15:14.540 Just seems kind of common sense

00:15:16.460 if you are trying

00:15:18.320 to honor God

00:15:19.160 in your sexual relationship

00:15:20.660 and stay within the boundaries

00:15:21.880 that he has lovingly

00:15:23.100 placed for us.

00:15:25.280 There's a whole lot more

00:15:26.200 that we can talk about on that,

00:15:27.200 but those are my initial thoughts.

00:15:28.280 Okay, favorite type of music.

00:15:42.520 Favorite type of music.

00:15:43.700 Gosh,

00:15:44.100 I used to pride myself

00:15:46.140 on being someone

00:15:47.100 who like found cool music

00:15:48.720 when I was in high school.

00:15:49.720 I used to love to burn CDs.

00:15:51.900 And on Apple Music,

00:15:53.500 they,

00:15:53.960 you could like print a cover

00:15:55.480 for the burnt CD

00:15:57.280 that would create like a,

00:15:59.480 out of all the album art,

00:16:00.920 would create like a collage

00:16:04.580 of album art

00:16:05.920 that I thought was so cool.

00:16:07.160 I would do that

00:16:07.760 for any boyfriend that I had.

00:16:09.540 Even up to my,

00:16:10.620 like my husband

00:16:11.700 when we were dating.

00:16:13.260 This is like my move.

00:16:15.220 I would like make,

00:16:16.880 I would burn a CD

00:16:17.920 and then like print out,

00:16:21.580 it had to be colored ink too.

00:16:22.820 And print out the collage

00:16:25.460 of album art

00:16:26.180 and like put it

00:16:27.100 within the like plastic CD case.

00:16:30.340 And so I used to like

00:16:31.620 really pride myself

00:16:32.560 on making those CDs

00:16:33.840 and finding cool music

00:16:35.600 that people hadn't heard before.

00:16:38.260 But I don't know,

00:16:39.660 after high school,

00:16:41.460 really,

00:16:42.060 and then after college,

00:16:44.240 well,

00:16:44.460 I guess I met my husband

00:16:45.200 after college.

00:16:46.080 I don't know.

00:16:46.880 Sometime after that,

00:16:47.680 I stopped caring

00:16:48.240 about that kind of thing.

00:16:49.440 I don't even know

00:16:49.980 what my favorite music is.

00:16:51.140 I love 80s and 90s music.

00:16:53.400 I do love 80s and 90s music.

00:16:54.940 I can tolerate some country.

00:16:56.580 I grew up listening

00:16:57.240 to mostly country

00:16:57.980 and Christian music.

00:16:59.520 And as far as Christian music goes,

00:17:02.380 there's only like a few

00:17:03.560 that I like really consistently like.

00:17:05.820 I really like Shane and Shane.

00:17:07.200 I would say

00:17:07.480 that's probably my go-to

00:17:08.520 when it comes to Christian music.

00:17:10.560 And again,

00:17:11.020 I like some country music.

00:17:12.320 Like I like the like

00:17:13.360 Zach Bryan,

00:17:14.500 like Morgan Wallen

00:17:15.760 type country music

00:17:16.820 that we're getting now

00:17:17.700 better than what we were getting

00:17:19.300 a few years ago.

00:17:20.140 I won't name names,

00:17:21.200 but we had some real

00:17:22.240 cringe country music

00:17:23.320 coming down the pap land

00:17:24.520 a couple of years ago,

00:17:25.560 a few years ago now.

00:17:27.040 Didn't like it.

00:17:29.400 I'm not really in.

00:17:30.800 Surprise.

00:17:31.340 I know this is going to shock y'all.

00:17:32.520 I'm not really into rap.

00:17:34.320 I know.

00:17:35.220 You're,

00:17:35.600 I know you're taken aback.

00:17:37.200 You had to pause this podcast

00:17:38.800 and say,

00:17:39.340 I don't,

00:17:39.860 I don't even know

00:17:40.380 if I know this woman anymore.

00:17:42.400 Um,

00:17:43.640 uh,

00:17:44.380 let's see.

00:17:44.980 So yeah,

00:17:45.480 I don't know

00:17:45.860 if that answers your question.

00:17:47.000 Just anything with like

00:17:47.760 a good solid beat.

00:17:50.160 I like,

00:17:51.020 I like that,

00:17:52.040 but it's also got to have like

00:17:53.560 good music.

00:17:56.220 That's why I can't

00:17:57.220 include rap in that.

00:17:58.720 And I can't stand stupid lyrics.

00:18:01.060 Cannot,

00:18:01.740 cannot,

00:18:02.160 cannot.

00:18:03.280 Um,

00:18:03.780 how do I like my eggs?

00:18:05.740 How do I like to eat my eggs?

00:18:07.240 Um,

00:18:07.660 let's see.

00:18:09.480 Probably mostly,

00:18:11.100 well,

00:18:11.280 no fried.

00:18:12.060 Definitely fried.

00:18:12.620 I was going to say scrambled,

00:18:13.980 but no,

00:18:14.700 it's fried.

00:18:15.600 And I don't know

00:18:16.400 if that's mostly a Southern thing.

00:18:18.040 I feel like if I tried to eat

00:18:19.440 fried eggs in the Midwest,

00:18:20.540 I'd be scared.

00:18:22.340 You have to do,

00:18:23.680 um,

00:18:24.340 bacon first.

00:18:25.700 You have to cook your bacon

00:18:26.660 and then you have to fry the eggs

00:18:29.020 in the bacon grease.

00:18:31.860 And you,

00:18:33.900 you,

00:18:34.480 obviously the pan is already hot.

00:18:36.160 And so you cook it

00:18:37.800 until it's,

00:18:39.260 you know,

00:18:39.520 the white part

00:18:41.160 has kind of congealed

00:18:42.360 the egg white.

00:18:43.660 And then you take it off the heat

00:18:45.960 after that.

00:18:47.080 And then you flip it over,

00:18:48.760 but only for like a few seconds.

00:18:50.700 You don't want the white part

00:18:52.260 to be gooey,

00:18:53.140 but you do want the yolk

00:18:55.900 to be liquid.

00:18:57.560 That's a good,

00:18:58.360 and I love,

00:18:58.920 I love fried eggs

00:19:00.120 like on most things.

00:19:02.460 Like I could eat it on salad.

00:19:04.060 I could eat it on hamburgers.

00:19:07.240 Yeah.

00:19:07.660 Fried eggs,

00:19:08.260 but only in bacon grease.

00:19:09.640 Like don't try to do it

00:19:10.400 in olive oil

00:19:10.960 or something healthy like that.

00:19:13.040 Um,

00:19:14.160 if you could have dinner

00:19:15.220 with three people

00:19:16.140 living or dead,

00:19:18.780 who would they be?

00:19:20.440 Uh,

00:19:20.680 one of them is definitely

00:19:21.600 C.S. Lewis.

00:19:23.480 Oh,

00:19:24.220 other ones.

00:19:25.120 I honestly don't

00:19:26.660 know.

00:19:28.520 I'm like,

00:19:28.840 whose mind could I change?

00:19:30.280 Probably someone

00:19:31.080 who professes to be a Christian

00:19:32.280 and is like super,

00:19:33.720 is like on the left.

00:19:34.880 I'd probably just like

00:19:35.700 want to change their mind.

00:19:37.080 Um,

00:19:38.400 maybe I could try to reason

00:19:39.840 with someone who has

00:19:40.560 like a lot of power,

00:19:41.820 like George Soros' son

00:19:44.280 or something like that.

00:19:46.320 Um,

00:19:46.840 oh,

00:19:47.080 I would love to,

00:19:48.380 which maybe,

00:19:49.280 maybe she would,

00:19:49.860 maybe she'll see this

00:19:50.920 and she'll say,

00:19:51.980 maybe she will go to dinner

00:19:53.140 with me.

00:19:53.460 I would love to go to dinner

00:19:54.340 with Megyn Kelly.

00:19:55.040 I love her.

00:19:56.520 I love being on her show.

00:19:57.660 She was on my show once

00:19:58.960 and I want to be her friend.

00:20:01.940 Um,

00:20:02.740 let's see,

00:20:03.820 probably,

00:20:04.560 I mean,

00:20:05.460 I could say,

00:20:06.280 I could say Jesus.

00:20:07.620 That would definitely

00:20:08.440 be interesting.

00:20:09.480 I would have a lot

00:20:10.160 of questions for him,

00:20:11.280 but I mean,

00:20:12.200 I've got all eternity

00:20:13.260 for that,

00:20:14.020 so I don't know

00:20:14.640 if I would,

00:20:15.660 I don't,

00:20:15.980 and I guess with C.S. Lewis too,

00:20:19.080 so I don't know.

00:20:20.240 C.S. Lewis,

00:20:20.560 I used to say Ronald Reagan,

00:20:22.000 but I'm not sure

00:20:22.840 if that's true anymore.

00:20:25.040 I don't know,

00:20:25.500 maybe Corrie ten Boom,

00:20:26.880 that would be really interesting.

00:20:28.160 Maybe one of the founding fathers.

00:20:30.400 I always think about,

00:20:31.580 like,

00:20:31.740 how would I explain

00:20:33.380 some,

00:20:34.500 how would I explain,

00:20:35.240 like,

00:20:35.340 the iPhone

00:20:35.920 to the founding fathers?

00:20:37.280 Like,

00:20:37.460 how would I explain,

00:20:38.620 um,

00:20:39.640 the picture

00:20:40.280 of the White House

00:20:42.140 with the transgender flag

00:20:44.000 hanging from it?

00:20:44.680 Like,

00:20:44.820 how would I,

00:20:45.320 how would I,

00:20:46.700 John Adams,

00:20:47.620 like,

00:20:47.740 how would I explain this?

00:20:49.300 There would be so many things

00:20:50.620 that I would have to explain

00:20:51.700 leading up

00:20:52.680 to their understanding

00:20:54.040 of our modern technology

00:20:56.940 and culture.

00:20:58.200 I'd like to challenge myself

00:20:59.680 to think about

00:21:00.980 how much I understand

00:21:02.500 that I could explain it

00:21:03.500 to them in a way

00:21:04.320 that the other day,

00:21:05.940 well,

00:21:06.240 the other day

00:21:06.600 as I'm recording this,

00:21:07.520 when I was talking

00:21:08.060 to one of my guests

00:21:08.900 about these synthetic

00:21:10.680 human,

00:21:12.000 quote unquote,

00:21:12.520 embryos

00:21:13.000 that are being created

00:21:13.720 in a lab

00:21:14.260 that could apparently

00:21:15.200 maybe one day

00:21:16.140 grow into human-like creatures,

00:21:18.980 um,

00:21:19.360 I was thinking,

00:21:20.140 I was like,

00:21:20.420 you know what,

00:21:21.040 this,

00:21:21.340 someone explaining

00:21:22.020 this to me

00:21:22.740 is like me

00:21:23.300 trying to explain

00:21:24.340 an iPhone

00:21:24.860 to a founding father.

00:21:26.020 I feel like

00:21:26.900 there are a lot

00:21:27.520 of steps

00:21:28.220 before this

00:21:29.180 that I really

00:21:30.040 need to understand

00:21:31.380 and I don't,

00:21:33.480 like,

00:21:33.580 my mind can't grasp

00:21:35.280 like a non-human

00:21:37.320 embryo

00:21:38.160 being implanted

00:21:39.620 into a woman

00:21:40.340 and then growing

00:21:40.860 into something

00:21:41.340 that looks like

00:21:42.120 a human,

00:21:42.680 that looks like

00:21:43.440 an image bearer of God

00:21:44.300 but doesn't actually

00:21:44.920 have human DNA.

00:21:46.660 And so,

00:21:47.020 I feel like things,

00:21:48.040 just technology

00:21:48.600 goes so fast

00:21:49.400 that I,

00:21:50.180 those of us

00:21:50.720 who try to understand

00:21:51.820 technology

00:21:52.300 can't even understand

00:21:53.380 where it's going.

00:21:55.080 Um,

00:21:56.140 anyway,

00:21:56.660 I don't even remember

00:21:57.440 what the question was.

00:21:58.760 Uh,

00:21:59.240 okay,

00:21:59.720 next,

00:22:01.100 oh,

00:22:01.380 the dinner with

00:22:02.520 three people.

00:22:03.560 Yeah,

00:22:03.900 it'd be really interesting.

00:22:05.060 Elizabeth Elliott,

00:22:05.900 that's another one.

00:22:06.880 It'd be really interesting

00:22:07.760 to try to explain

00:22:08.600 things to these people

00:22:09.460 but really I would want

00:22:10.380 them to explain

00:22:11.120 concepts to me.

00:22:18.600 Controversial question,

00:22:25.940 be a controversial answer.

00:22:27.500 My child is gay,

00:22:29.120 someone says,

00:22:30.400 do I go to his wedding?

00:22:33.360 Um,

00:22:33.940 of course,

00:22:35.320 if you're a Christian,

00:22:35.920 I'm going to say

00:22:36.480 you should not

00:22:37.800 because you would be

00:22:39.640 celebrating

00:22:40.160 what God calls sin.

00:22:42.080 And I totally,

00:22:43.920 completely understand

00:22:45.380 the desire

00:22:46.120 to celebrate

00:22:47.060 and to love

00:22:47.780 and to affirm

00:22:48.300 your child

00:22:48.880 and the possibility

00:22:50.120 of severing

00:22:51.900 a relationship

00:22:52.400 with your child.

00:22:53.660 Severing a relationship

00:22:54.580 should they somehow

00:22:55.840 try to create

00:22:57.060 a child

00:22:58.200 that they raise

00:22:58.820 themselves?

00:23:00.160 Um,

00:23:00.300 severing

00:23:00.780 that potential

00:23:01.520 relationship.

00:23:02.360 Like,

00:23:02.620 that is really,

00:23:04.000 really difficult.

00:23:05.480 That is a tough

00:23:06.380 decision to make.

00:23:07.380 I think a lot of people

00:23:08.440 will tell you

00:23:09.040 just do it.

00:23:09.780 You're not celebrating

00:23:10.500 the sin.

00:23:11.000 You're celebrating

00:23:11.560 that person.

00:23:12.740 You're making them

00:23:13.420 feel loved

00:23:14.040 but you can't,

00:23:14.940 you can't separate that.

00:23:16.220 You can't separate that.

00:23:17.600 You're not celebrating

00:23:18.360 them as a person.

00:23:18.980 You are celebrating

00:23:19.580 a union

00:23:20.720 that God does not

00:23:21.620 call marriage,

00:23:22.400 that God would not

00:23:23.040 call a wedding,

00:23:23.740 that God actually

00:23:24.300 calls sin.

00:23:25.480 And because God

00:23:26.020 is more loving

00:23:26.620 than us,

00:23:27.840 He's more compassionate

00:23:28.840 than us.

00:23:29.280 He actually loves

00:23:30.520 your child

00:23:31.300 more than you do.

00:23:32.720 He cares about

00:23:33.320 His soul

00:23:33.800 and His heart

00:23:34.440 more than you do.

00:23:36.000 I don't think

00:23:36.660 in love

00:23:37.640 we can celebrate

00:23:38.500 that it's something

00:23:39.720 that God calls bad,

00:23:40.860 that God calls wrong.

00:23:41.880 Their union

00:23:42.640 is not an Ephesians 5

00:23:44.300 reflection of Christ

00:23:45.140 in the church,

00:23:45.740 therefore it's not

00:23:46.840 representative of the gospel.

00:23:48.560 It's not what we see

00:23:49.740 in the very beginning

00:23:51.440 when God created

00:23:52.260 the male and female.

00:23:53.540 It is a complete

00:23:55.020 rejection of that.

00:23:56.700 And so I think

00:23:57.460 celebrating that

00:23:58.160 which God calls sin

00:23:59.100 is a sin in itself.

00:24:01.100 And it is going

00:24:02.500 to hurt

00:24:03.100 His feelings,

00:24:04.120 absolutely.

00:24:05.260 And that is,

00:24:06.020 no one wants to do that.

00:24:07.180 No, I understand.

00:24:08.200 No one wants to do that.

00:24:09.860 But Jesus does say,

00:24:11.860 like,

00:24:12.060 if you're not willing

00:24:13.620 to hate

00:24:16.040 in, you know,

00:24:17.380 a certain sense

00:24:18.140 your father and mother,

00:24:19.280 your sister,

00:24:19.800 brother,

00:24:20.200 your son or daughter,

00:24:21.120 then you are not worthy

00:24:21.860 to follow me.

00:24:23.100 Taking up our cross,

00:24:24.140 following Christ,

00:24:24.980 even when it is

00:24:25.780 extremely difficult,

00:24:26.960 even when it severs

00:24:27.800 relationships,

00:24:28.480 even though that's

00:24:29.040 never the desire

00:24:30.020 or the goal,

00:24:31.200 that is a really

00:24:32.440 difficult part

00:24:33.260 of the Christian life.

00:24:35.060 I think that you

00:24:35.720 can pursue that

00:24:36.680 relationship

00:24:37.240 in a lot of

00:24:37.860 different ways.

00:24:38.400 You can try

00:24:38.960 to explain

00:24:40.280 to your child

00:24:42.220 what went

00:24:43.160 into this decision

00:24:44.000 and why

00:24:45.320 you won't be there,

00:24:46.380 but ultimately

00:24:46.900 your fidelity

00:24:47.600 is to God

00:24:48.340 and His word.

00:24:49.800 And I know

00:24:50.360 people will say,

00:24:51.320 oh, that's unloving.

00:24:52.760 We're called

00:24:53.100 to love people.

00:24:54.280 We don't get

00:24:54.840 to define love.

00:24:55.980 Love is not

00:24:56.440 affirming

00:24:56.800 someone's feelings.

00:24:57.880 Love is not

00:24:58.320 affirming

00:24:58.680 someone in their sin.

00:25:00.120 How does

00:25:00.480 1 Corinthians 13

00:25:01.400 define love?

00:25:02.400 Love does not

00:25:03.080 rejoice in wrongdoing,

00:25:04.700 but rejoices

00:25:05.640 with the truth.

00:25:08.120 So anytime

00:25:09.580 we see someone

00:25:11.200 say, well,

00:25:11.580 you have to love

00:25:12.160 people.

00:25:12.540 Yeah, of course.

00:25:13.380 We love it how

00:25:14.260 we love people,

00:25:15.260 how God

00:25:16.260 tells us to love

00:25:17.320 people because God

00:25:18.040 is love.

00:25:18.600 1 John 4, 8.

00:25:19.320 He defines love.

00:25:20.300 1 Corinthians 13.

00:25:22.040 So we don't really

00:25:22.960 have the authority

00:25:23.720 to define love

00:25:24.400 as anything other

00:25:25.160 than what God

00:25:25.680 says it is.

00:25:26.260 We will never

00:25:26.800 love people

00:25:27.360 by disagreeing

00:25:28.120 with God

00:25:28.520 or celebrating

00:25:29.100 with what God

00:25:29.780 celebrating

00:25:30.400 what God

00:25:30.820 calls sin.

00:25:32.440 Okay.

00:25:33.640 You can only

00:25:34.680 listen to

00:25:35.220 one musical

00:25:36.220 artist for

00:25:37.200 the rest

00:25:38.500 of your life.

00:25:40.260 Who would

00:25:41.280 it be?

00:25:43.180 Hillary Duff.

00:25:44.600 Obviously.

00:25:45.660 Just kidding.

00:25:47.660 One musical

00:25:48.820 artist.

00:25:49.460 I mean,

00:25:49.720 probably,

00:25:50.500 I know I already

00:25:51.240 said this,

00:25:51.640 probably Shane

00:25:52.160 and Shane.

00:25:52.800 I really love

00:25:53.380 their voices.

00:25:54.040 I love their

00:25:54.460 harmony.

00:25:54.840 but there's

00:25:56.920 a lot of

00:25:57.620 good artists

00:25:58.980 out there.

00:26:00.280 I don't know.

00:26:00.940 That's like the

00:26:01.500 one that comes

00:26:02.000 to mind

00:26:02.580 right now.

00:26:04.980 But honestly,

00:26:06.780 as much as I

00:26:08.100 don't agree

00:26:08.720 with Bethel

00:26:09.300 theology,

00:26:10.800 their voices

00:26:11.580 are very

00:26:12.360 powerful

00:26:13.020 and very

00:26:16.260 listenable

00:26:17.020 to me.

00:26:20.640 Gosh,

00:26:21.280 I don't know.

00:26:21.960 I don't know.

00:26:22.360 One artist

00:26:23.240 for the rest

00:26:23.920 of my life.

00:26:25.120 I need to

00:26:26.020 look at my

00:26:27.300 Spotify

00:26:27.820 and who do

00:26:29.020 I even

00:26:30.580 listen to?

00:26:32.100 I can tell

00:26:32.740 you who it's

00:26:33.180 not.

00:26:33.680 It's not

00:26:34.200 Fergie.

00:26:35.920 It's not

00:26:37.000 Miley Cyrus.

00:26:39.320 That is for

00:26:40.000 sure.

00:26:40.440 It's definitely

00:26:41.120 not Britney

00:26:42.040 Spears,

00:26:42.660 who I think

00:26:43.320 used to have

00:26:43.960 a good voice

00:26:44.600 and something

00:26:45.500 happened.

00:26:47.600 I'm sorry,

00:26:48.880 Brie,

00:26:49.160 but it wouldn't

00:26:49.680 be Taylor Swift.

00:26:51.080 Would it be

00:26:51.540 yours?

00:26:52.060 Is that for

00:26:52.440 the rest

00:26:52.720 of your

00:26:52.960 life?

00:26:54.100 Yeah.

00:26:54.560 Brie says

00:26:54.960 yes.

00:26:55.300 It's not

00:26:55.600 that I

00:26:55.860 don't like

00:26:56.340 her voice

00:26:58.100 or her music.

00:26:58.880 I'm not sure

00:26:59.540 that I could

00:26:59.860 listen to that

00:27:00.300 for the rest

00:27:00.600 of my life.

00:27:01.320 The theology

00:27:01.860 reflected in

00:27:02.640 her songs

00:27:03.180 really makes

00:27:03.600 me sad.

00:27:05.620 I don't

00:27:06.160 know,

00:27:06.360 maybe like

00:27:06.880 70s or

00:27:07.560 80s or

00:27:08.280 someone like

00:27:08.880 that or

00:27:10.160 someone within

00:27:11.720 that realm.

00:27:13.780 I really

00:27:14.480 also like

00:27:15.400 Broadway voices.

00:27:17.280 It could be

00:27:17.920 Idina

00:27:18.440 Menzel or

00:27:19.060 someone like

00:27:19.600 that.

00:27:19.900 If I

00:27:20.660 could recruit

00:27:21.440 someone from

00:27:21.940 Broadway to

00:27:22.660 sing a bunch

00:27:23.200 of hymns,

00:27:24.500 for me,

00:27:25.680 I could put

00:27:26.280 that on repeat

00:27:26.960 for a long

00:27:27.600 time, I

00:27:28.200 think.

00:27:29.160 I do have

00:27:29.900 like a

00:27:30.260 hymns for

00:27:30.880 moms playlist

00:27:33.240 on Spotify

00:27:36.180 and there's a

00:27:37.980 lot of,

00:27:38.560 I also like,

00:27:39.780 okay,

00:27:40.140 I really,

00:27:41.020 okay,

00:27:41.280 someone asked

00:27:41.880 me what's my

00:27:42.360 favorite kind

00:27:42.740 of music.

00:27:43.040 I would

00:27:43.680 say like

00:27:44.440 70s and

00:27:45.640 80s,

00:27:47.180 semi-country,

00:27:50.940 like Americana

00:27:52.160 type stuff.

00:27:54.680 That's,

00:27:55.100 I do really

00:27:55.760 like that.

00:27:57.080 Like a

00:27:57.480 little,

00:27:58.660 well,

00:27:59.100 this is rock.

00:28:00.340 Leonard,

00:28:00.720 I like some

00:28:01.420 Leonard Skinner,

00:28:02.140 I like some

00:28:02.660 Alabama,

00:28:04.560 I like some

00:28:06.860 like Credence

00:28:07.900 Clearwater

00:28:08.540 Revival.

00:28:09.460 uh,

00:28:11.560 yeah,

00:28:12.060 I like that

00:28:12.640 kind of stuff

00:28:13.060 and also like

00:28:13.760 like the kind

00:28:14.500 of stuff that

00:28:14.980 we would swing

00:28:16.020 dance to when

00:28:17.000 we were in

00:28:17.360 college because

00:28:17.820 I went to

00:28:18.080 college in

00:28:18.440 South Carolina.

00:28:19.620 Like the

00:28:20.200 Brown Eyed

00:28:20.740 Girl,

00:28:21.080 that type of

00:28:21.600 stuff.

00:28:21.940 I like that

00:28:22.340 kind of music.

00:28:24.060 All right,

00:28:24.980 I think those

00:28:25.520 are all the

00:28:25.880 questions that

00:28:26.380 I'm going to

00:28:26.700 ask today.

00:28:27.280 What a wide

00:28:27.760 range of

00:28:28.180 things.

00:28:29.220 Okay,

00:28:29.740 thanks so much

00:28:30.480 for listening.

00:28:31.120 We will be

00:28:31.780 back here soon.

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Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - August 29, 2023

Ep 864 ｜ Should You Attend Your Gay Child's Wedding？｜ Q&A

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