Ep 891 ｜ Is Patriarchy Biblical？ ｜ Q&A
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In this episode of Relatable, I answer some of your questions, including: Favorite Breakfast Foods, Do I think we re living in the end times, What does my day-to-day look like? What kind of job would I have if I didn t have a podcast? I m answering all of these questions and more on this episode, which is brought to you by GoodRanchers.
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What is the difference between submitting to your husband as the Bible calls wives to do
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and the patriarchy? Do I think that we're living in the end times? What does my day-to-day look
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like? What's my favorite breakfast food? What kind of job would I have if I didn't have a podcast?
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I'm answering all of these questions and more on this episode of Relatable, which is brought to
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you by our friends at Good Ranchers. Go to goodranchers.com. Use code ALI at checkout.
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Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. All right. I'm going to answer some of your questions
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as usual. Some of them are lighthearted, some of them food related today and others deeper,
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more theological. I love the variety. It's really fun. So let's start with the lighthearted one just
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to kick us off. Favorite breakfast food, favorite breakfast food. Ooh, well, I just had a quiche
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this morning that my mother-in-law made and that is probably one of my favorite breakfast foods.
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I don't make it myself because I don't trust that I'll be able to make it in the same way that she
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does. But I love a quiche. I love brunchy type food, like the kind that you would get at it,
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like a really good bridal shower. So quiche also, okay, this is not a breakfast food,
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but I'm just talking about like brunch, you know, chicken salad, things like that. I love that type
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of thing. I also, you know, I just love pancakes. I love bacon and eggs. Probably if I were to pick
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my absolute favorite, probably a breakfast sandwich. Like we're talking bacon, fried eggs,
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eggs, and maybe some cheese on some wheat bread, some buttered wheat bread. That sounds really good.
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I don't like hot sauce or anything. Ew, just salt and pepper. Also, there's this at this restaurant
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that we go to. I haven't had this in so long. There's a breakfast burger. I'm not above a breakfast
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burger. So I think I'm more of like a hearty gal myself when it comes to breakfast food. This is not
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what I eat on a daily basis, by the way, but I do love it. Also honey butter chicken biscuit. I
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probably haven't had that since high school, but from Whataburger, so good. And of course your girl
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loves Chick-fil-A. And so I'm more of a chicken biscuit gal than I am a chicken minis gal, but yes.
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So all those things, I don't know. Can you tell I'm pregnant? They all sound good to me. Okay. Let's get
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into something a little bit deeper here. Do you think that we are in the end times? Good question.
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I get this question a lot. So it depends on your eschatological view. If you're post-millennialist,
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then this question isn't really relevant to you. If you are a pre-millennialist, as I am,
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I am a post-trib pre-millennialist. Okay. So I'm not going to take the time to explain all of that
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right now. I'm just going to tell you I'm a post-tribulation pre-millennialist. So this means
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this is going to shock some people. I don't believe in a rapture. I don't believe that Christians are
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going to be raptured before the tribulation. I believe that we will, when there is a tribulation
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for those of us who are here, that we will, while we are alive, endure the tribulation. And so if you
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want to know the explanation for that, I have talked about, I think I did an eschatology episode
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explaining my view, probably first maternity leave. So 2019, you can go back and listen to that.
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I think you can just type in wherever you get your podcasts in times relatable, and it should come up.
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I've also talked about post-millennialism though with Jeff Durbin. He's post-mill, I'm pre-mill.
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And so someone like John MacArthur would be pre-mill, pre-trib. So that means he does believe
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in a rapture. Obviously, I really respect his theological knowledge. Someone like John Piper
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would be also what I am, which is, I also, I always have to think about like what it is,
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pre-mill, post-trib. And then you've got someone like Votie Bauckham. These are all people that I
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really, really respect theologically. And, you know, I think that this is like a secondary or
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tertiary issue, obviously not a salvation issue. Votie Bauckham is an amillennialist. And then
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post-mill would be someone like Jeff Durbin. So these are all amazing Christians. These are all
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people I respect so much and have learned a lot from, but it does affect in a large part the rest
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of your theology. So for example, and this may be the reason why I am pre-mill, post-trib, but the first
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big study Bible that I got that God really used to just shape my faith and to draw me into studying
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scripture was the ESV study Bible. And I did not realize that kind of the John Piper view of
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eschatology would kind of shape and color the commentary there. But then once I got several
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years later, like 10 years later, I got the John MacArthur study Bible just to see if I enjoyed it.
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I realized that his eschatology was coloring the commentary. And so the ESV study Bible is what I
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typically use, even though I appreciate John MacArthur's insights on theology as well.
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But yes, so without even realizing it, I think that did kind of affect me. And I didn't even know
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how to put necessarily a label on it until I read, or until I haven't read the whole thing,
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but systematic theology by Wayne Grudem, this huge textbook. And that's what I would recommend
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to you. You can also go to gotquestions.org. So I don't have to spend time explaining all of them.
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There are so many intricacies. I'm, I don't have it in front of me right now. So I'm afraid if I tried
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to break down every view of the end times that I would miss something, or you would feel like I
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misinterpreted or misrepresented your view. So gotquestions.org, they can explain in a very
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succinct way what all of these views are. But if you want a more thorough and honestly objective and
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unbiased explanation of what each end time view is, then I would get Wayne Grudem's systematic
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theology. And it's not only for that. I also think he just does a really good job of breaking down very
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complex theological topics, the end times being one of those topics. So yep, that's, that's what I,
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so that's what I believe about the end time. So that said, do I believe since I am pre mill,
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like, do I believe that we are entering into a time of tribulation? I don't know. I can't say that
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because here's one mistake that I think the pre mill people get into and even the post mill to some
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extent, but definitely pre mill is constantly looking at news headlines to try to tell us if
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we are in the end times. And there's some of that if you're looking at biblical prophecy and the things
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going on in the world, but that's not really what we should be primarily looking at no matter where you
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land when it comes to the end times, it really should be the Bible. And everyone who has these
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views, they would all say that they base their view of the end times on the Bible, but that should be
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our primary lens. That should be our go to when trying to understand if we are in the end times. That
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said, the Bible also points us into worldly happenings to try to kind of give us an indicator of what the
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end times will look like. And so for example, you've got second Timothy three, but understand this, that in the
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last days, there will come times of difficulty for people will be lovers of self. There's a billion
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dollar industry out there for self-love lovers of money, proud, arrogant, abusive, disobedient to
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their parents, ungrateful, unholy, heartless, unappeasable, slanderous, without self-control,
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brutal, not loving, good, treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than
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lovers of God, having the appearance of godliness, but denying its power, avoid such people for among
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them are those who creep into households and capture weak women burdened with sins and led
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astray by various passions. I think that's talking specifically about Glennon Doyle, always learning
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and never able to arrive at a knowledge of truth. Oh my gosh, how many women do you know who are
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following Glennon Doyle and Brene Brown and Jen Hatmaker and all these psychologists and think that
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they are trying to discover themselves and follow their heart and unleash their inner goddess and Rachel
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Mahalos and all of this, who are always learning and never able to arrive at a knowledge of truth
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because they've been preyed upon by a lover of self, a lover of pleasure rather than a lover
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of God. Wow. Yes, that seems to describe our age. Yes, of course it does. And so you could say,
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yes, we're in the end times. There are lots of other passages that people could point to,
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many more complex prophetic passages that people could point to. But also why I think it's dangerous to
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look at this passage and say, yes, we're in the end times is because I would say that this
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characterizes many times throughout history, many countries like, and we can't even look at,
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oh my gosh, we're going through persecution. We're going through such fiery trials that that indicates
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that we are in the tribulation and we're about to be in the tribulation and that the, you know,
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the birth pains are getting stronger and stronger. Like, okay, I see that here in America, but don't
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you think that the Christians in the Middle East or the Christians in China or the Christians in
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North Korea that they have been going through in time, like suffering and trials and tribulation
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and birth pains for a very long time. And so I think that we have to be careful not to look
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through our local lens or our American or Western lens to say, yes, we are entering into the end times.
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Now I'm not saying that there aren't other, you know, geopolitical indicators there that maybe are
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interesting to debate and discuss and, and to look at. I'm just saying, I don't think that we can look
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through our personal political and American lens to say, yes, we are gearing up for the great
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tribulation. Um, because Christians around the world have been dealing with apocalyptic type
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suffering for a while. And the, I mean, you don't think that the Christians in Nero felt like this
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has got to be the end times. I mean, even think about pagan grace in Rome where Christianity,
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the world in which Christianity was birthed into absolutely lovers of self, lovers of money,
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proud, arrogant, abusive, unappeasable, treacherous, reckless, loving pleasure, rather than loving God.
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I mean, the epistles that Paul writes to the churches, you can see that that's kind, that's
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the kind of world that they lived in then. And so, I mean, post-mill people would say that the last
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days aren't talking about our last days, but they're actually talking about days that have already
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occurred in the church. Um, so anyway, I don't know, I don't know. And because this is a secondary
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or tertiary issue and that I don't believe that it, what, what you believe on this determines your
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salvation or the sincerity of your faith. That is why I love discussing it and debating it and
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hearing other people that I respect their perspective on it. That doesn't mean it's not
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important. That doesn't mean there isn't a right view. There is one right view. It's not that all
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of these views are equally valid or all of these views are equally true. They're mutually exclusive.
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They can't all be true. There is one truth. I just don't, um, like, I, I just don't know all of
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the answers about them. I mean, I'm confident in my view based on my reading of scripture, but
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I also, um, you know, there are a lot of, there are persuasive debates and arguments out there,
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biblical arguments about each view. So I just think it's interesting. I don't know if we're in the
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end times or not. Some people would say, absolutely. I mean, it's hard to see how it'd be worse than
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this, right? Like it's hard to, how can we get more confused than we are right now? How can we
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be more up as down than we are right now? How can we be more Romans one than we are right now?
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It's probably a bad question. It can always get worse.
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Will I ever have a live audience for my shows? Possibly, possibly we've talked about it before.
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Um, have I answered this question? I can't remember if I've answered this question. I probably have on
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one podcast or another, but yeah, we've talked about it. We got to vet you guys. Most of you guys are
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awesome, but unfortunately there's some weirdos out there. So for the protection of everyone around,
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we would just have to make sure that the people that we invite and allow in are, you know, true
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related bells and related bros. But, um, yeah, I think one day that we will. So just stay tuned for
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that. We've got lots of fun stuff coming up that we are planning and scheming. Uh, what does the
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typical day look like for you? Uh, that's a great question. People ask me this all the time. People
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in my own life who I know ask me this all the time, uh, because I feel like I'm kind of just like
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MIA during the week. And then I resurface on the weekends because this podcast takes, uh, it takes
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a lot of time and a lot of focus and a lot of energy. And it's not just the podcast. It's everything
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that surrounds the podcast. In addition to the other things I do like write and speak and all that good
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stuff, which I all, which I love, I love all of that stuff, but it just takes a lot of time.
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And then my first priority is being a wife and mom that takes the majority of my time. And so I
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don't have a lot of time for anything else during the week that said, um, let's see ideal day.
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And I have answered this question a long time ago, but it's okay. I think it's good to repeat.
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Or maybe I just answered it on Instagram. I don't know. Everything's all jumbled right now.
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Um, I try to wake up ideally, ideally this doesn't always happen. Okay. Ideally I wake up at 6am
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and I just kind of get ready for the day. I really try not to open my phone and scroll first thing.
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Although that is tempting. I would say that's like a struggle for me because it is an easy way
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to ease into the day. It seems like, but it's not a good way. It's not a good way at all to ease into
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the day, but it's just, you know, it's mindless or it feels mindless, but I try to make myself when
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I want to do that because I have the Bible app on my phone or Bible apps. I try to do that first,
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just at least read a chapter of the Bible before, or a segment of the Bible before I get into the news
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and all of that, because I do need to know what's going on in the world. So I do need to scroll
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Twitter and Instagram for a little bit, but I don't need to do that, you know, for the first 30
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minutes of my day. And I certainly don't need to prioritize that before getting in the word.
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I would love to say also that I sit down and I open all my commentaries and I do an hour long
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quiet time. I don't, I had to kind of wake myself up to the reality that quiet times don't have to look
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like that at every stage of life that just because you can't sit down for a full feast every day,
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doesn't mean that you shouldn't eat. And so sometimes it looks like listening on my dwell app
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to my, to a Bible passage. Sometimes it looks like reading the Bible for 15 minutes. Sometimes it does
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look longer and, and more in depth, but don't think that just because you can't have a perfectly
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quiet, quiet time and that you can't have it without it being disrupted by kids or whatever it is,
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that you get distracted sometimes that you just shouldn't read your Bible. I think that's a trick
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of the devil. So anyway, I try to prioritize that first. Doesn't always happen just to be honest.
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And I'm not making an excuse for that. A lot of times it's just sin and me just being selfish in the
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morning and not feeling like it. And that's not a good thing. Again, not an excuse. It's just how it
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is. Um, so anyway, that's the first thing I want to do. Wake up at six, six allows me to like,
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do all the things that I need to do before my children wake up. Thankfully my children sleep in
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a pretty long and then my kids wake up and then I do mom things in the morning. And then, um,
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I record my podcast in the morning. Sometimes we have to record multiple things. Sometimes we record
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social media videos. I get my makeup done at the studio before I record anything. Usually after I
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record, there are some meetings and things and are, we just have to talk about things. Sometimes I have
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to meet with different people about merch or about, you know, future plans for the show or other things
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that we're planning. Sometimes I have phone calls with other people. Sometimes I have to write
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articles. And so until like early afternoon, that's basically what I'm doing on the phone in meetings,
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recording, um, writing some days I'm, I'm traveling. Usually my travel is less than 24 hours.
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Sometimes my family comes with me. Sometimes it doesn't, or sometimes they don't. Um,
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and then from afternoon to evening, I'm, you know, full on mom. Sometimes I'll work out. I used to work
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out at 6 AM. I don't do that anymore. It's usually afternoon. I also used to work out every day in the
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morning. I don't do that anymore. I work out probably three times a week in the afternoon or
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evening when my husband is there and yeah, that's kind of my day. And then after bed, I typically
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just hang out with my husband, but at some point I do work at night. That's just the exchange that I
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have that I, that I do to be with my family in the mornings. And then all afternoon after bedtime,
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I do typically have to work on something. I try not to stay up too late, but sometimes I have to,
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sometimes it's until midnight. I usually try to get to bed at 10 30 or so. So that's my typical day
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and we just make it work. I wish I could say I'm like the most organized person with all this time
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blocking. I do have to do lists. I have to put everything. I have to write everything down.
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Um, I do have an assistant who helps me, uh, with that kind of stuff. And yeah, we live like a very
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normal, regular, private life and except for recording this podcast and like the public stuff
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that I do. It's not, you know, it's not very exceptional. My life probably looks a lot like
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y'all's life. Um, so I don't know if that answers all of your questions. It kind of changes from day
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to day, week to week too, just depending on our schedule and all of that. I'm also just so thankful.
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Like if you can live by your family, like moms live by your parents. Oh my gosh. It makes such
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a big difference. It makes such a big difference. I'm just so thankful for that. Um, and also just
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like having an awesome husband who is an awesome dad and we just really are great. We're just a great
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team. So I just praise God for that. It makes it all, makes it all work.
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Uh, what is the difference between submitting to your husband and the patriarchy? Well, here's
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my answer to that. That may be a surprising. So you're looking at Ephesians five and Ephesians
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five says, and I'll pull it up that wives are supposed to submit to their husbands. That does
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not mean that women are supposed to, all women are supposed to submit to all men. That's
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not what that says. In verse 22 of chapter five of Ephesians, it says, wives submit to
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your own husbands as to the Lord for the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the
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head of the church, his body and is himself its savior. Now, as the church submits to Christ,
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so also wives should submit in everything to their husbands. Now, of course the teaching on
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this, the traditional Orthodox, I believe teaching on this is that in so far as your husband is not
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causing you to sin. We also don't think that this is an excuse for enduring abuse of you or of your
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children. Anyone who has tried to use, misuse, abuse this passage to say that wives are meant to
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endure the abuse of their husbands is wrong. And I think simple. And so maybe that's what this is.
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This question is trying to get at, but there is an inherent assumption in this question. The
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inherent assumption in this question is that patriarchy is bad. So submitting to your husband,
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I think that this questioner is saying is good because the Bible explicitly calls wives to submit
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to their husbands. There's an ordering, there's a hierarchy there. Okay. This is not an egalitarian
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arrangement. Yes. Equal in worth, equal in value. Remember there is in Christ, there is neither male nor
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female nor slave nor free nor Jew nor Greek. We are all one in Christ. Those of us who are believers,
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but when it comes to the marriage arrangement, there is an ordering there is that the husband
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is supposed to be a representative of Christ and the wife is a representative of the church. There is a
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great spiritual and eternal picture of the gospel that is represented in marriage. That's why,
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by the way, marriage between one woman and one male is the only biblical option. It's the only biblical
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definition of marriage. And so, um, the wives have a unique role. Men have a unique role, even as we are
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equal in worth and, uh, just as much able to be given salvation and faith and grace and all of those
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things. Um, so submitting, you understand to your husband is biblical and is good, but patriarchy,
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I'm guessing the assumption is, is bad. And I would say that that is not necessarily true. That is
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certainly not biblically true. Like biblically, we don't see any kind of condemnation of patriarchy.
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Jesus was born into a patriarchal time. Did he shake his fist at the patriarchy? Now, maybe you think that
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him, um, that his interaction with a woman caught in adultery, that that was shaking his fist at
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patriarchy. And I believe it's John eight, that is not a shaking the fist of the patriarchy. That is
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actually, as Jesus does so often, um, a pointing out in a condemnation of hypocrisy. Uh, for those of
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you who have not sinned, you be the one to throw the first stone at this woman. What he actually means
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by that is not in a, an abolishing or an ignoring of the law, but actually a doubling down on the law
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and getting to the heart of the law. Again, what he does so often when he is talking to, um,
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Pharisees or talking to the people, he is showing people not that the law is bad, but that they
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misunderstand the intent of the law. And those who had caught this woman in adultery, thrown her before
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Jesus to test him, to test his knowledge and his adherence to the law. They had actually broken the
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law because the law actually said that there had to be, uh, two to three witnesses who saw this woman
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committing adultery. And also that the man committing adultery was also open to punishment. And so they had
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actually broken the law and dragging this woman in this way before Jesus and demanding execution,
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demanding the stoning without the proper, uh, procedure preceding her punishment. And so when
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Jesus is saying you of you who, uh, who are without sin, be the one to throw the first stone,
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he's actually saying, you guys aren't even following the law here. You are condemning her for not following
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the law. You're not following the law either. And so in this case, he extends mercy to her. And it is
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a beautiful moment, a beautiful story where he, I am guessing, looks her in the eye in a way that
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maybe a man hadn't before and treats her with kindness and respect and forgiveness, but he is
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not telling her to keep sinning. He is urging her to sin no more. And that forgiveness is supposed to
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lead her to repentance. As Romans two tells us that kindness, that God's kindness is to lead us to
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repentance. Anyway, that story is not about abolishing the patriarchy. Jesus did not try to abolish the
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patriarchy. We see a patriarchy that set up in the old Testament. So of course we can't say
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that it is evil. So I do kind of take issue with how this question is arranged that patriarchy is
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inherently bad when that's not something that we actually see in scripture. And so if what your
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real question is, is how is submitting to your husband distinct from submitting to abuse? Um,
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then I would say that that is simply not the interpretation of submission that we see
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biblically that the husband would be totally abdicating his responsibility as a husband in
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that case. And that to protect herself, to protect her children, to protect her family, that a wife
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should not be in submission to a husband that is, um, that is abusing her. And now I'm not talking
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about abuse and that sometimes he, or you both say something mean to each other. I'm talking about
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actual abuse. Yes, that can be emotional, but there are actual specific definitions of that,
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which we can talk about on this show at some point. Um, but it is not talking about tolerating
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that. It's also, you are not supposed to sin. If submitting to your husband means that he is
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forcing you to sin, forcing you to worship another God or whatever, commit some kind of crime, then
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you are called to submit to the Lord rather than, um, to man. So anyway, patriarchy is not always bad.
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It can be in a very abusive structure. Of course we see that in other parts of the world. Like
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we see that in the middle East, for example, but it is not inherently bad just as anything else.
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The system has to be in submission to the Lord and his word to be good for anyone, including the
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people in charge. And this is what husbands are called to in the same passage. Husbands love your
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wives as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her that he might sanctify her having cleansed
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her by the washing of water with the word so that he might present the church to himself in splendor
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without spot or wrinkle or any such thing that she might be holy and without blemish. In the same
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way, husbands should love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself for no
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one ever hated his own flesh, but nourishes it and cherishes it just as Christ says the church,
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because we are members of his body. Therefore, a man shall leave his father and mother and hold fast to
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his wife and the two shall become one flesh. This mystery is profound. And I am saying that it refers to
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Christ in the church. That's amazing. However, let each one of you love his wife as himself and let
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the wife see that she respects her husband. This would have been radical at the time. You know,
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we see this passage today through a feminist lens. I think a lot of us do and are like, oh,
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wives submit to your husbands. That's so crazy. I can't believe Paul would say that we should just
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ignore Paul. The radical part of this passage at the time would not have been that wives are called
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to submit to their husbands because they were to submit to their husbands at the time and secular
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culture, even to the point of, you know, allowing their husbands to gallivant with prostitutes and
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even to the point of abuse and severe subjugation. That would have not been really radical. This was
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a more gentle and a more godly call to submission. But what would have been radical at the time was
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Paul saying, hey, husbands, I have a really high standard for you. And that high standard is Christ.
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You know how Christ was crucified on behalf of his church? You know how Christ gave himself up
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completely entirely for the glory of God and for love of his church? Yeah, that's how much you're
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supposed to sacrifice for your wives. You should sacrifice your entire self because of love for
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God and love for your wife. That would have been radical at the time. So actually this passage is
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radical in the way of elevating the dignity of women that they are to be cherished, that they are to be
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cared for, that they are to be sacrificed for in the marriage relationship. That would have been
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completely foreign at the time that the church of Ephesus was being written to by Paul. And so it's
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funny because the same people that see this through a feminist modern lens are also the ones that are
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always decrying viewing the Bible through our Western modern capitalist lens. Look, if you're viewing
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this passage as oppressive towards women, you are viewing it through your Western modern lens. This
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actually speaks to how much God loves women, how much the early church really cared about women, saw
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marriage as a refuge for the safety and the cherishing of women. And that's how we should read it as well.
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Let's do a simple one. Best chain restaurant. Okay, let me tell you the first one that comes to mind.
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And the first one that comes to mind is chilies. I don't know if that's actually true. But that is
00:28:51.880
the first one that comes to mind because their skillet queso, or as some of you might say in certain
00:29:00.060
parts of the country, cheese dip, their skillet queso is really good. Also, they're like their chicken
00:29:07.880
nuggets or their chicken fingers, I should say. I'm sorry. Blasphemy chicken fingers breaded to
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perfection. Now, I will say I have not been to chilies in a really long time. I'm actually getting hungry as I'm
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saying this and I would like it. But I grew we grew up going to chilies. That was like where if we were going
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out to eat a lot of times it was to chilies because it was easy back then it was cool. Gen Z don't even know you
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don't even know the chilies of the 90s. You will never know you will not know fine dining until you sit in the
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chilies and you see all the cool knickknacks that are lining the ceiling and all of the fun pictures. I don't even
00:29:47.540
know looking back what these pictures were of. They seem to be some kind of chilies festivals that were going on in the
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80s and 90s. And then they tried to kind of redo or revamp chilies later on in like the later 2000s. But then I missed the
00:30:03.980
old chilies and like the cool little tile that were always on the that were always on the table. So I
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don't know. I guess I could say chilies, but I don't know if you're talking fast food. That's a whole
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different category. We're done. OK, then you got Battle Royale between In-N-Out and Chick-fil-A and you got
00:30:21.440
Shake Shack. And then I mean, I don't know. Also, I liked Wendy's growing up. Wendy's was good. Wendy's
00:30:28.040
gets slept on a lot, but it's good. So, you know, Chili's final answer, Chili's final answer simply
00:30:35.060
because of their chicken fingers. And when Chili's finally goes out of business, that is going to be
00:30:40.240
a loss, a loss to Americana, a loss, a loss of a world, maybe the dying bits of a world
00:30:48.560
pre craziness that, again, Gen Z, you don't even know. You don't even know that the world used to
00:30:55.080
be badder than this. Things used to be a lot simpler and a lot easier. Not all young people
00:30:59.780
were friggin depressed because we weren't like in the throes of existential crises in politics all
00:31:06.640
the time. Let's see if there's one more that we can answer. OK, let me end on an encouraging note.
00:31:14.840
Um, OK, never mind. I'm not going to get into this because it'll take too long.
00:31:22.340
All right. Let me see if there's one more that we can answer. OK, this is a fun one. If you didn't
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host a podcast, what other job do you think you'd have? Oh, my gosh, there's so guys, there's so many
00:31:36.540
things. This actually like annoys my husband because I will be like, do you think I should do this? Do you
00:31:42.160
think I can do this? What about what if I did this? And he's like, has to remind me, he's like,
00:31:45.620
you have a job like you, you have a actually you have a career that you have been working on since
00:31:51.420
2015. Like you remember that, right? Like, you know that you can't go like open a bar studio.
00:31:57.760
And I'm like, oh, yeah, that's that's true. I probably can't do that. Or like you can't go be
00:32:03.000
a doula. You can't. No, you're not going to be like a midwife. Those are things I would want to do.
00:32:07.460
So that is my that's my apocalypse designation. Like all of us will have different places in the
00:32:14.700
apocalypse when I don't even know exactly what that means. But when stuff really hits the fan
00:32:20.260
and China is going to take over and we've all got our like plots of land. So there's going to be the
00:32:26.160
hunters. There's going to be those who can make clothes. We're talking about if we have to basically
00:32:30.840
go back in time in some ways to pre industrialism, there's going to be gardeners,
00:32:39.140
there's going to be not very many of those. Most people are useless like me and don't have any of
00:32:44.420
those skills. There's going to be the preppers. There's going to be all these people. I don't have
00:32:49.380
any of those apocalyptic skills, those pre industrial skills. Like, I don't know if y'all need me to go on
00:32:57.600
the like, I don't know, the walkie talkies that we have to talk to each other in our underground
00:33:04.380
communities. And I can be the messenger for that. That's probably the only thing that I have. But
00:33:09.300
I do like birth. And so I can be the midwife. I don't have any medical experience. So
00:33:14.960
don't give me complicated birth, but I could be the midwife in that kind of scenario. So
00:33:21.720
when, when all that happens, when things really hit the fan and we have to all go underground and
00:33:27.720
live like we're in the 1700s again, um, that's what I have to offer. So if I weren't doing this,
00:33:34.800
maybe it would be something in the birth world because that's something that I'm really fascinated
00:33:38.700
by. And I've learned a lot about since I started giving birth. Um, let's see, there are other things
00:33:45.620
there. Oh, I could probably come up with names for businesses. I really like doing that.
00:33:50.640
Um, but here's, here's the problem with all of my things is that I could never,
00:33:57.000
I don't know if I should say this publicly, just in case I'm in this position again,
00:34:01.900
it would be really difficult for me to ever have a boss again. Okay. I have not had a boss since
00:34:08.500
2015. Um, and I was born to not have one. I was just not built for it. I wasn't built to be an
00:34:18.780
employee and there's nothing like I, there's nothing wrong with that, uh, to, well, it's
00:34:24.660
actually, I think a lot harder to have a hard time, like working for someone. And I have always had a
00:34:30.440
hard time with that probably since I was like in kindergarten. Um, but I just couldn't do it.
00:34:36.880
So thinking of having any other job other than this, it'd be really tough for me. I would have to
00:34:42.180
start something on my own because I just, I can't do it. I just, I didn't really like my teachers
00:34:49.180
growing up and I just have a hard time with authority, which is probably why I am
00:34:54.960
anti so many things that the government does. Okay. That's all I got time for today.
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