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- November 21, 2023
Ep 911 | How Many Kids Should Christians Have? | Q&A
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Is there a certain number of kids that Christians are supposed to have?
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How do you handle a coworker who is gay and who is going through the surrogacy process
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with their partner?
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How are you supposed to address that and try to maintain a friendship, but also make sure
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that you are living in a way that aligns with your values?
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Also, should abortion doctors get the death penalty?
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What's my go-to coffee order?
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What do I think about Nikki Haley?
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We're going to be talking about all of this and more on this episode of Relatable, which
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Hey, guys.
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Welcome to Relatable.
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Hope everyone is having a wonderful day and a wonderful week.
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All right.
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We've got another Q&A episode for you.
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As always, you guys have sent me very interesting questions.
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Wide variety, lighthearted, a little bit more complex.
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I'll do the best I can to answer the more complex ones in a thorough way while still trying to
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keep my answers concise.
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All right.
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Let's see.
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One question that I got is, number of kids a Christian has freedom of conscience, or are
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we to have many?
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So basically, is there a biblical mandate to have a certain number of children or not?
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We don't see a particular number in the Bible that we are supposed to have.
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We are told in the beginning to be fruitful and multiply.
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Obviously, we know that that simply is not possible for everyone.
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Either God just has not planned for you to get married.
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Maybe it's biologically impossible for you to have a child.
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You struggle with infertility.
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There are a variety of reasons for that.
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Maybe you've tried to adopt.
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You've tried to foster.
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Has it worked out?
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There could be a number of reasons.
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No fault of your own why you may not have children.
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But if you can have children and if you are married, I do believe that Christians are
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called to have kids.
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So I know that's not what this person is asking, but I do just want to start off with
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that.
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We've talked about that a lot, but if you've missed it, I don't really believe that there
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is a biblical excuse not to have children other than you cannot have children for some
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reason.
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Now, there could be some exceptions to that.
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If you have a concentrated mission effort that God has specifically called you to, and
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so for a period of time, it is being responsible or good stewards to not multiply, to not have
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children.
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I've heard John Piper talk about this.
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That's basically the exception that he explains.
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Other than that, just wanting to be quote unquote child free, wanting to pursue a career
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instead of having children, wanting to travel instead of having children.
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Being scared of what the future holds, being worried about the way that the world is going.
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Those are not biblical reasons not to have children.
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Now, there are biblical reasons not to get married at all.
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We actually read in the New Testament that being married distracts you.
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It distracts you from heavenly pursuits.
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It distracts you from focusing on eternity.
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It distracts you from focusing on Christ because your interests, your priorities are split.
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But we are also told if you have not been given that gift of celibacy, that gift of singleness,
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then it is better to be married than to burn with passion.
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The vast, vast, vast majority of people do not have that gift of celibacy and singleness.
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Some people do.
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And that is absolutely wonderful.
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That is a gift to be grateful for.
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Some of you have been given that gift even though you did not want it or you did not ask for it.
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So there are biblical reasons not to be married.
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But just to reiterate, after you get married, there are very, very, very few biblical reasons
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not to have children.
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So once we've established that, how many children are we to have?
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I think that this is a debate that Christians, genuine, sincere, Bible-believing, God-loving
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Christians can in good faith debate.
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There are wonderful Christian parents who have 10 children.
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There are wonderful Christian parents who have two children.
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Now, we can get into, and we might actually in this episode, or it might be a question that
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I answer on another episode, different forms of birth control that are more ethical than
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others, that are more biblically aligned than others.
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But not even talking about that, excluding the what kind of birth control conversation.
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I do believe it is freedom of conscience.
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And I also think that it's always an examining of the heart.
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What is the reason that you stopped having children after one?
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They could be wise and godly reasons.
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They could be selfish and fleshly and anxiety-ridden reasons.
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And obviously, I can't see into your heart.
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And so that is something that you will have to seek through prayer, that you will have to
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seek through the analysis and uncovering of your own heart and your own motivation.
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Same with that of your spouse and maybe godly counsel as well.
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So I can't give you a hard and fast answer on that.
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I do think that there is freedom of conscience within that.
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And I'm open to discussion and debate on that particular question.
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Another question that I got, what are some small things that I look forward to doing every day?
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So small things.
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I don't know if this is big or small.
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I mean, it's big in the long run, I guess, in the day-to-day because it's so routine.
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It seems small, but I genuinely look forward to waking my kids up.
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Or I don't wake them up, but I get them out of bed.
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And just like saying good morning and being with them in the morning, I genuinely look forward to that.
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Of course, at the end of the day, you're so ready for peace and quiet and to rest and just to be able
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to actually focus on one task without a million people and a million things pulling your attention
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in different directions.
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But by the time the morning comes, you're like, I'm ready.
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I'm ready to see their faces.
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I'm ready to talk to them.
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And so that's something that I look forward to every day.
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But something smaller than that, it used to be coffee.
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Like I would just look forward to my morning coffee.
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I don't think this is good for your metabolism, but I used to wake up and just have like my cup
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of black coffee and then not eat for like a couple hours.
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I don't think it's good for you because then by the time you're ready to eat, you like crave
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all of this unhealthy stuff, whatever.
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You can fight me on that.
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I'm sure there are some nutritionists out there that would argue with me.
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But since I've been pregnant, I have not wanted black coffee.
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Isn't that such a weird aversion?
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I know that a lot of women, they don't like coffee when they first find out that they're
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pregnant, but for it to last, it lasted.
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I mean, as I'm recording this, I'm only halfway through my pregnancy, but it's lasted all the
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way thus far.
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Like I was always just a black coffee drinker, black hot coffee.
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And the thought of that really kind of makes me want to puke.
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I don't know why, because it's such a like a bitter, nondescript taste.
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It's weird to think and there's no texture.
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It's weird to think that it would bother you.
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But I've had to drink iced coffee during this.
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Oh, this, you know what?
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I'll just lead into another question here.
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Oh, you know what?
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Another thing I look forward to, though, and I have looked forward to ever since I got
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married, just like hanging out, vegging out with my husband at night.
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It's harder now because it's later than it used to be because we have so many responsibilities
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before we put our kids to bed.
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And then after that, it's like, OK, we're tired.
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We're basically ready to go to bed ourselves.
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But when we do have the time to sit down and to watch a movie together or to watch a show
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together like that is such an awesome part of being married.
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And it's truly my favorite part of being married.
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And this is especially true when I first got married and was getting used to living with
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someone and not having to check in with anyone or be accountable to anyone about how I'm spent,
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how much time I'm spending with him or how we're spending our time.
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Like you could truly just be there, be alone, not think about anything except for what you're
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doing. And it felt like there was something fun to look forward to every day after work.
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And honestly, I still feel that way.
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I just really like hanging out with him at night.
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So those are some things that I look forward to now on the coffee question, because another
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question that I got for this episode was, what's my go to coffee order?
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So it used to just be black coffee now.
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OK, so sometimes, sometimes I'm just going to let you know you might feel betrayed.
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Sometimes I go through Starbucks.
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I know, I know, communist Starbucks that stands against so much of what we hold dear.
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But the reason is, and I don't know if this is a good excuse or not, it's the only
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drive-through coffee place in my area.
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When we used to live in Athens, Georgia, go Dawgs, there's Jittery Joe's.
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And so, I mean, Jittery Joe's probably has similar values to Starbucks, but at least there
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was an alternative.
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There was a local alternative.
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There's really nothing convenient.
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Now, I typically, though, OK, so if I go to Starbucks, it is, what's it called?
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A vanilla cold brew with sweet cream, or is it a cold brew with vanilla sweet cream?
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I don't remember what exactly it's called, but it is an iced coffee that I'm sure is
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not good for you.
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I mean, it's only 90 calories, but I'm sure there's a bunch of fake stuff in it.
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That was like my go to pregnancy drink.
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But I will say most of the time I am drinking coffee at home.
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I am making my own coffee, my own iced coffee from the coffee that we have.
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And I put vanilla almond milk in there, and I get my, the vanilla almond milk I use is
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three trees.
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That is a recommendation I have to you, because one time I posted about just my standard almond
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milk on Instagram, and I don't typically like these messages.
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No one likes to get these messages.
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You know, there's a bunch of fake stuff in that almond milk.
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There's a bunch of fillers and stuff like that.
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But you know, even though I was, you know, just a little kind of annoyed by the message,
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I did take it to heart, because I had never really thought about what was in my almond
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milk.
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I just thought it was unsweetened, and it was unsweetened, and it was fine.
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But then I looked on the back, and there was a bunch of fake stuff.
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And so I found three trees, and it's a little more expensive, of course, but it's only almonds
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and water, right?
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Just almonds and water.
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And then it has like vanilla extract if you get the vanilla kind.
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So anyway, so that's the kind of almond milk I use.
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And I put that in my coffee, got ice, sometimes like I'll get a little sassy and put some cinnamon
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in there, and then I've got a little frother that I use.
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The only thing that's terrible about it is that it all separates, and I hate that, and
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you're constantly having to stir it.
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But that's my go-to coffee situation.
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Okay, Nikki Haley opinions.
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Look, I like Nikki Haley.
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I like a lot of what she says.
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I like a lot of what she says.
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I'm going to leave it at that for now, because as it is, I would really like to have her,
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as of now, I would really like to have her on my show.
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Maybe by the time you're listening to this, and yeah, maybe by the time you're listening
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to this, she will have already been on my show.
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But that is the hope.
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One of my goals is to get all of the Republican presidential candidates on my show.
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If I can get a Democrat presidential candidate, which I think I probably could, there's one
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that I think I could, I would like to get them all on my show.
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Now, technically, I've already had two.
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I've already had Trump, and I've already had DeSantis.
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Maybe I can get them again.
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That would be interesting.
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But yes, I mean, this is a very enviable audience that I have here.
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I don't think there's any other political commentator that has majority female audience 25 to
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45.
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So I got the suburban moms on lockdown here.
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And so if any candidate wants to appeal to the suburban mom, which is a vote that is always
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a toss up, then you need to come on Relatable and tell us why we should vote for you, especially
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in the Republican primaries.
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Most of you out there are going to vote for a Republican for sure.
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But I bet that a lot of you have not decided who you would vote for in the presidential primary.
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I can guess who most of you would probably vote for, but I bet that your vote is something
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to be fought for right now.
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So hopefully we'll be able to do that on Relatable.
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Let's see.
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Oh, here's a spicy one.
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Should abortion doctors get the death penalty?
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Well, if I'm consistent, I mean, I believe that capital murder deserves the death penalty.
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I think that's the only just punishment for capital murder that is proven, obviously, in
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a court of law beyond a reasonable doubt.
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A lot of people say, how can you trust the government?
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How can you trust the government to decide who lives or dies?
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Well, that's not really how our justice system works.
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Not to say that our justice system is perfect by any means, but you are judged.
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Your verdict is decided upon by a jury of your peers, and you are proven either guilty or
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not guilty.
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And so I am totally fine with raising the standard of evidence that is required for the death
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penalty for someone to be sentenced to execution.
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But I do think it is a just punishment for capital murder and some other particularly
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heinous crimes like child rape, for example.
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And the biblical foundation for this is Genesis 9-6.
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God actually demands the death penalty.
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And the reason that he demands the death penalty is a reason that is still true today, that we
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are made in God's image.
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That is why God demands the death penalty for murder.
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It's actually out of compassion, out of the honor of the dignity of human beings, the unique
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dignity of human beings that God demands such a serious punishment for taking the life of
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an image bearer.
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There are examples in scripture of him showing mercy to murderers like Moses, like David,
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but that does not negate the rule.
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That doesn't negate Genesis 9-6.
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And Genesis 9-6 was not negated by Jesus' death and resurrection.
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It wasn't abolished by Jesus.
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It wasn't done away with in the New Testament because, again, it's rooted not in Israelite
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law.
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It's actually rooted in the creation ordinance, which, of course, is still true today.
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We are still made in God's image.
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Therefore, capital punishment for murder is still just today.
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So if I believe that babies in the womb are image bearers of God just as much as any of
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us are, if I know for a fact that human life starts at conception, that's a scientific fact,
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and if I believe that human life is made in the image of God, and if someone intentionally
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murders that human life, I don't see why I would make an exception for abortionists just
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because we use the euphemism abortionist.
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I mean, really, they're serial killers.
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They just have a lot of PR, better PR than most serial killers do today.
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So consistently, if we're to not be hypocrites, I would say abortion doctors deserve the same
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punishment as any other murderers do.
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Let's see.
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What's my favorite Bible verse and why?
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It's hard for me to pick one particular verse.
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I always talk about Psalm 37.
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Psalm 37, one is very comforting to me.
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I love Psalm 37.
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I love Psalm 33.
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I love the whole book of Ephesians.
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I also love the whole book of Genesis.
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Genesis is very interesting to me.
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I think the storytelling in Genesis is masterful.
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There are so many interesting and even humorous parts of Genesis, interesting parts of Genesis.
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We learn so much about who God is, what justice looks like, what his righteousness looks like,
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what his love for his people looks like in Genesis.
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And I find myself almost every day as I see the craziness in the world going back to Genesis 1 through 3.
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Yeah, Genesis 1 through 3, looking at how God intentionally created human beings,
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looking at the fall, how Satan tempted Adam and Eve and all of that.
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So I would say that those are my go-tos.
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In college, my friend and I decided to memorize the book of Ephesians.
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I don't even know exactly why we did it.
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That's the only book that I've ever memorized all the way through.
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I tried to memorize Philippians.
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I don't think I ever got finished with it.
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But Ephesians is the only book that I've memorized.
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Now, I will say about memorizing Scripture, which I highly recommend.
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I'm not as good at remembering references,
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but thankfully, by the grace of God and the generosity of my parents,
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I got a Christian education, kindergarten through 12th grade.
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And that, without a doubt, laid the foundation for me theologically and depically.
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People ask me all the time, how do you recall these verses when you're talking?
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It's not really anything I can take credit for.
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It is because of the education that I got, kindergarten through 12th grade.
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And I'm sorry, you can't get that if you don't have a Christian education,
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even if you have amazing Christian parents.
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There is a difference between spending 40 hours a week learning the Bible
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and 40 hours a week learning the opposite of the Bible.
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It's just, it's going to make a difference.
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It's going to lay a different foundation.
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So I will say, I definitely am for memorizing Scripture.
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But there are some downsides.
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And y'all can help me work this out because I'm like,
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how can it be possible that there is any downside to memorizing Scripture?
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And we should never discourage people from memorizing Scripture.
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I love being able to recall all of Ephesians.
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I love that.
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That's probably why I reference it so much, because I know it by heart.
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And so it just comes to mind.
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And that benefit outweighs any negative that I'm about to say.
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But it's really hard for me to sit down and read Ephesians.
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Because I've memorized it, it's like my mind automatically goes on cruise control.
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Like I can't focus on each word because it's like I'm just,
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like it's just playing out in my head and I'm already thinking about the next verse.
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So it's really hard for me to sit down and read Ephesians and take in what I'm reading
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each word because I have it all memorized.
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Maybe that's just my weird brain.
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I'm not really sure.
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So don't hear that as discouragement.
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But at the same time, I do think that, I don't know, there's maybe something to be said
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about not having every word of a chapter memorized and really being able to, like not being able
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to anticipate the next word and really chew on every word that you're reading, if that
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makes sense.
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Y'all can let me know what you think about that.
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Um, let's see how to handle a gay married coworker who's going through the surrogate process
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and still keep a good working relationship.
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Um, do y'all remember that funny moment, um, at the podium with President Trump and I think
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he was making a statement in a press conference and it must have been that Putin just won his
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phony election or something like that.
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And he had this note card that some photojournalist ended up taking a picture of and it just said
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in all caps, do not congratulate, do not congratulate.
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So I would say that as a Christian, you know what you know about the surrogacy process and
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how exploiting it is of both the woman who's involved, whether it's the person who sold
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her eggs, the person who is allowing her womb to be rented or the child who didn't ask to
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be ripped away from her biological mother or her gestator.
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We've talked about the ethical problems with that many times.
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So knowing what you know about that, that that is, um, not a neutral process, that is
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not an ethical process.
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It's actually a very wicked and selfish, um, process for the person who is doing the, the
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buying and the exploiting.
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And then also your belief about marriage that we see in the first chapter of the Bible that
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we don't believe that there is a definition of marriage outside of the marriage between
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a man and a woman.
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So you cannot in good faith, like in alignment with what you believe, congratulate them.
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That doesn't mean that you can't be kind to them.
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That doesn't mean that you can't say things like, or ask them questions if you want to,
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um, or be interested in their lives or talk to them.
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Or if they show you their wedding plans or show you a picture of their child, of course,
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you can say, that's beautiful.
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Wow.
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She's adorable.
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Um, she's so precious, you know, things like that.
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You can still be involved in their lives and you can be interested in trying to build that
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relationship with them and care about the things that they care about, um, without condoning
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it, without celebrating it, without congratulating it and without participating in it.
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So that's just in general, I would, what I would say, I don't think that's easy, what
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I just recommended.
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Um, but I would say to try to stay in alignment with your faith, which is the most important
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thing, um, and also try to be a friend to them, which is much lower in priority than
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honoring God, um, that that's probably the balance that I would strike.
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Um, should I move where my husband wants to move or prioritize my aging parents?
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That's really difficult.
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And I couldn't even begin to know all of the variables that exist there.
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So of course, not knowing your complete circumstance, I can't give you a hard and fast answer.
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Now, if you're a Christian, you are to submit to your husband.
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You are to ultimately follow your husband.
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There can't be a split decision there.
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Your husband can't move and you stay there to take care of your aging parents.
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Of course, as your husband is also called to love his wife as he loves himself, just as
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Christ loves the church.
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So in a very sacrificial way, he should take all of your concerns into very serious consideration.
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Um, there should be no real big decision that he makes without, uh, considering the
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interests of the wellbeing of the priorities of all the different members of his family.
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But ultimately, he has to follow where God is leading and you have to follow where God
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is leading your husband.
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Um, Jesus makes very clear what marriage is in Matthew 19, four through five.
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For this reason, a man will leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife.
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That leaving and cleaving is something that we see in marriage.
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Obviously, it is very important to honor your father and mother.
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If I were you, I would feel the same way.
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I would say, no, we are staying here.
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My parents are aging.
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They're deteriorating.
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They, I don't know, again, your situation, but I don't have any siblings to take care of
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them.
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It's up to us.
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We really, that's how I would feel.
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I would say, look, the other opportunities can wait.
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We've got these limited years with my parents.
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They really need my help or move your parents with you, whatever it is.
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But I understand, like, if that's your priority, that's your desire.
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That's absolutely what I would want to do too.
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But obviously, you can't force your husband to make a particular decision.
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You can pray.
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The prayer of the righteous person has great power.
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You can pray that the Holy Spirit would lead your husband in a particular direction.
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You can be very honest with your husband.
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But ultimately, if you are married, you are one with your spouse and where he goes, you go
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too.
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So I don't really, I don't really think that that's a choice.
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Should I move where my husband wants to move or prioritize my aging parents?
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Look, if your husband moves, you have to move.
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As hard as that might be.
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Okay, will we see our miscarried babies in heaven and know them?
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Even five weeks miscarried?
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So we've talked about this question before.
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I recommend some resources just because we don't have time to get into all of the theology
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of this, but I recommend some resources by John Piper and John MacArthur.
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Both John Piper and John MacArthur believe that, yes, these babies, whether they are aborted
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babies, miscarried babies, that they will be in heaven.
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And they cite lots of biblical evidence for why they believe that.
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And you will get different answers on that.
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And it's not a denial of the theological tenet of original sin.
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But both of them explain very well why understanding the nature of God and some biblical references
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leads us to believe that these babies will be in heaven.
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I absolutely think, I think so.
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And I think that you absolutely will recognize them and just understand, like, no matter how
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many times you've miscarried, maybe you have never brought a baby to term, like you are
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a mother.
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You're a mother.
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You have created life inside of you.
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And whether you miscarried at five weeks, whether you had a stillborn baby that you never got
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to bring home from the hospital, whether you had a complication at 20 weeks, whatever it
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is, you are a mother to that child.
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So maybe you have three children here on earth and you have other children that tragically
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died in the womb or coming out of the womb.
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You are still a mother to those children.
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So just remember that.
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I think that God is very gracious and very compassionate towards mothers and fathers who have lost their
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children.
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Let's see.
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Let's see.
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Let's see.
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There's lots of, like, birth control and children-type questions.
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Here's a question that doesn't have to do with any of that.
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Do I think that they do?
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Do you think that they will ever admit about the Hunter laptop?
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So I'm going to just, like, read between the lines here and guess that you are talking
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about, like, I don't know, they, the intelligence community, Democrats in Congress.
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I don't think so.
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Information has already trickled out about it, that it wasn't just this Russian conspiracy
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theory, which is what the media told us in the beginning, but that, of course, it was
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legitimate.
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It was a totally legitimate news story.
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New York Post, remember, they reported on it.
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They got kicked off Twitter for a long time for reporting on it.
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This was right before the election.
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I would call that election interference, and it is completely legitimate.
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And there are so many questions about Hunter Biden's laptop and the contents there that
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we have not even begun to ask about or begun to discover.
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So I don't know if they will ever admit anything.
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Do I think Biden will ever admit anything?
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No.
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He is still proudly parading his son around.
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It's actually amazing when you think about it.
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Obviously, there is a different justice system for those kinds of people than there is for
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the rest of us, and certainly Republicans versus Democrats.
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So I wouldn't, I wouldn't hold your breath.
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I wouldn't hold your breath when it, when it comes to that.
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Okay, I'll do one more.
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Another spicy one.
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A birth control recommendation.
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All right.
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Depending on the age of your kids and what you've talked to them about, you may or may
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not want them to listen to this.
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So birth control recommendations.
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We've talked about this before.
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We've done a whole episode on birth control, what birth control pills are, what hormonal birth
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control pills do.
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I recommend going back and listening to that episode.
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We can link it in the description so you can listen to it.
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And I think that there is an ethical problem with all hormonal birth control, whether that's
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an IUD, even if it's a copper IUD, which is not hormonal, and with a pill, because all
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of it.
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One, I think it interferes with how your body is supposed to function.
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Your body is supposed to ovulate.
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You're supposed to have a period.
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These things are supposed to happen.
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When we interfere with that process, that natural process, when we interfere with any kind of
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natural process, there are probably going to be consequences for some people.
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There aren't any real scene consequences or major consequences to that.
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Maybe there's no long-term consequences.
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I certainly know people who have been on hormonal birth control for a long time, and they were
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able to get pregnant very quickly after they got off birth control.
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Some people are not so fortunate.
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There are a lot of repercussions, emotional repercussions that come with hormonal birth
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control, but also physical repercussions, short-term and long-term, that come with birth control.
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And one of the big problems with it is that we're not told that.
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We're not told that when we're prescribed birth control.
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So I was ridiculously prescribed birth control when I was in high school by a doctor who
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I'm sure assumed that all of her teenage patients were sexually active, and I absolutely wasn't.
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I think, and again, we're kind of getting a little graphic.
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If the male members of my family are watching this, are listening to this, you probably just
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want to turn it off.
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You probably don't want to hear me talk about this.
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But I think that I was like, I think my period was like 10 days late or something when I was
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17 years old.
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And she was like, oh, yeah, we definitely need to, we just need to go ahead and put you
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put you on Yaz, which we now know Yaz is terrible for you.
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They have like those commercials like, were you put on Yaz?
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You have a right to compensation.
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I'm like, oh, great.
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I was put on Yaz when I was a teenager.
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And because something totally normal happened to me, I had mono.
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And then I was a little bit late for my period.
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And then my doctor, who I'm sure just assumed I was lying about my sexual activity or my lack
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of sexual activity, decided to put me on birth control.
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And I stayed on it because I didn't know any different.
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I stayed on it until I realized or I just thought about the fact.
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I think, I don't know, it was probably seven or so years later.
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No, it's probably a little bit less than that.
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Maybe five or six years later that I was like, I don't need this.
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There's no reason for me to take this.
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I tried to get off of it a couple of times.
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I started getting acne, which I had never had before.
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Didn't like that.
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So I went back on birth control, which is not a good reason.
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And finally, I was like, you know what?
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I feel like this is probably just not good for me.
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I feel like it's also causing me to be really emotional every single month, like really emotional.
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And that just doesn't feel good.
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That doesn't feel right.
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And so I did get off of it.
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And it did cause acne for a little bit, but it was worth it.
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It took like three to six months for everything to go back to normal.
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And I haven't been on hormonal birth control since then.
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And I didn't even think about the ethical problems with it when it comes to conception,
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because that wasn't something that I was thinking about at the time.
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That's not why I was taking birth control.
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But now I know that birth control can kill a fertilized egg.
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It can kill a fertilized egg.
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Not saying that's what happens every month if you were sexually active and you were on the
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pill, but it can.
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So it can just make your womb inhospitable for that fertilized egg to implant.
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So rather than it stopping ovulation, sometimes it doesn't stop ovulation.
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Sometimes it doesn't stop fertilization.
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Sometimes it just stops implantation.
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So if we believe, as we do, that life begins at fertilization when sperm meets egg, I mean,
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that's when unique human DNA comes into play.
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Then it is possible for birth control to kill that tiny human being before that human being
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implants.
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It's the same thing with an IUD.
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An IUD simply makes your womb inhospitable for that fertilized egg, should it fertilize,
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which, like I said, could be possibly rare, to implant into the uterus.
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And so there are ethical questions.
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Does it end a human life?
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That's something that you really need to consider.
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I don't think, I know that there are plenty of people who do.
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I don't think all other forms of birth control are immoral or unethical or sinful.
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As we already talked about, like the number of children you have, I do believe that depending
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on your motivations, that's up to freedom of conscience.
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And so there are a variety of ways that don't put in danger or endanger a human being's life
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that you can prevent pregnancy or try to prevent pregnancy.
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Some people have great, great fortune.
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I don't like to say the word luck.
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Maybe fortune isn't right either.
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Or they've had great success, I should say, with natural family planning.
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I think that's totally possible.
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I think that that is possible for some people.
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I remember when I first got married, the midwife was like, yeah, natural family planning
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is planning your family naturally, like you're going to get pregnant if you do natural family
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planning.
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But for some people, it totally works.
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For some people, it doesn't.
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You have to find what's right for you as long as, again, you're not crossing those boundaries
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into sinfulness and into potentially ending that human life.
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And again, assessing your motivations for why you are preventing pregnancy.
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There are some good reasons to do so and some selfish reasons to do so.
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All right.
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I think that's all I have time for today.
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We will be back here soon.
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