Ep 921 | To the Texas Mom Suing to Abort Her Baby
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A Texas woman is suing the state in order to have an abortion after receiving a tragic diagnosis for her baby. Also, Shane Dawson, a controversial YouTuber, has welcomed twin boys with his partner, Fia Surrogate. We ll also comment on both of these things.
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A Texas woman is suing the state in order to have an abortion after receiving a tragic
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diagnosis for her baby. Is this justified? Also, Shane Dawson, a controversial YouTuber,
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has welcomed twin boys with his partner, Fia Surrogate. You know, I've got a lot to say about
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both of these things. We'll also comment on a few other stories. This episode is brought to
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by our friends at Good Ranchers. Go to goodranchers.com. Use code Allie at checkout. That's
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goodranchers.com, code Allie. Hey, y'all. Welcome to Relatable. Happy Tuesday. Yes, it's Tuesday.
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Hope everyone's having a wonderful week. If you haven't listened to yesterday's episode with
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John Cooper of Skillet. It was awesome. Those of you who did listen to it or watched it loved it.
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I got your feedback on that. So if you haven't done that, go ahead and listen to it. All right. We've
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got so much to cover today. This week is the last week that we are filming before Christmas. We've
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got some episodes that are coming out over the next few weeks. But the three weeks of our Christmas
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New Year's break, we will not be putting out new episodes every day. Just a little holiday break
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for the Relatable team before we start back in full force in 2024. Oh my gosh, it's an election year next
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year. I'm crying about that. I can't believe it. I can't believe it's already an election year.
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And we are about to go into the craziest election season of our lives. And yes, we've been saying
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that for the past few election seasons. But that's because it's getting crazier and crazier.
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And so Relatable is going to be here, y'all. It's going to be here four days a week bringing
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you the craziness. We're not going to be in the thick of politics and polls all the time.
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That's just not how we do. Of course, we'll be talking about it. But we're also going to do
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our best to bring you redemptive stories every week. Stories, testimonies of how the Lord is
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saving people, good news of things that are happening. We're going to wade through the
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craziness and the chaos because we have to do that. That is our responsibility here at Relatable. But
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we're also going to try to make you laugh, make you praise the Lord. Remember that God is good and
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sovereign over all things because it'll be very easy to get sucked into the madness. And we don't
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want to do that. We don't want to do that. We want to go into the madness and then come back out
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and remember that God is in control and that there are still things to laugh about and be joyful
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about. So we got to take a little breather as the Relatable team over the next few weeks. So until
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then, though, because we've still got the new episodes today, tomorrow and Thursday, we've got a
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lot to talk about, a lot to get through before we take our break. Okay, so I first want to talk about
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this story that so many of you have sent me that I've seen all over social media, and that is about
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this Texas woman whose name is Kate Cox, who is seeking an abortion at 20 weeks, halfway through
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her pregnancy, saying that she will leave the state for the procedure and courts are currently
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weighing her case. You might have heard that the courts granted her so-called right to have
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an abortion, but the battle is still ongoing. This is a kind of complicated case because Texas has
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banned most abortions. But there is an exception in Texas for the life or the health of a mother,
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of the mother. This is what section 170A.002 says. It prohibits a person from performing,
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inducing, or attempting an abortion. There is an exception for situations in which the life or
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health of the pregnant patient, it says, is at risk. In order for the exception to apply,
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three factors must be met. A licensed physician must perform the abortion. The patient must have a life
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threatening condition and be at risk of death or substantial impairment of a major bodily function.
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If the abortion is not performed, the physician must try to save the life of the fetus unless this would
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increase the risk of the pregnant patient's death or impairment. So that's what the law says
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post Dobbs v. Jackson in the state of Texas. And so why is this woman, Kate Cox, suing the state in
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order to have an abortion in Texas? Well, her child, her baby, was diagnosed with something called
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Trisomy 18. Some people might pronounce it Trisomy 18, a rare chromosomal disorder, which is usually,
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but not always, fatal. It's a disorder in which babies are born to three copies of the 18th chromosome
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instead of two. So this is according to the NIH National Library of Medicine. Five to 10% of children
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with this condition, which is typically screened prenatally, so in the womb, live past their
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first year and often have severe intellectual disability. Despite the well-known infant mortality,
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approximately 50% of babies with Trisomy 18 live longer than one week outside of the womb. Five to
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10% of these children live beyond the first year. But the major causes of death when it comes to these
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children diagnosed with this condition include central apnea, cardiac failure due to cardiac
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malformations, respiratory insufficiency due to hypoventilation, aspiration, or upper airway
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obstruction, and likely the combination of these and other factors. Upper airway obstruction is likely
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more common than previously realized and should be investigated when full care is opted by the family
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and medical team. So that's according to this finding. So there is a high mortality rate when it comes
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to these children. So obviously this diagnosis in the womb is devastating for a parent because
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your child, your wanted child that you are so excited about birthing, excited about raising,
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is either going to die pretty quickly after death or is going to have a severe disability if the diagnosis
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is correct. And so I can sympathize with this mother that she is devastated over this diagnosis. Of course,
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she had hopes and dreams for this child and those hopes and dreams have come crashing down since she was
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told that her baby has trisomy 18. What I cannot sympathize with is her intent to get an abortion,
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her desire to abort her child at 20 weeks gestation and beyond, and that she is so passionate about being
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able to abort her child that she is actually suing the state of Texas and she is being hoisted up as a
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hero, as a representation of all women of bodily autonomy in her pursuit to abort her child. Now,
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you might be wondering on what grounds is she suing the state? If the state already has an exception for
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the health and the life of the mother, what justification is she and are her lawyers presenting
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to the state to say, hey, she should be able to abort her child. Well, I will tell you that and then I
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will do my best to debunk their reasoning in just one second. Okay, so Cox and her husband
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sought a court order to block Texas's abortion bans from applying to her case. She said that she was
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stunned when her doctor told her that she wouldn't be able to legally have an abortion. Now, why does
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she want to have an abortion? She wants to have an abortion because she doesn't want to birth a child
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with these special needs because she doesn't, I guess, want to go through the process of holding her
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child, of caring for her child, of seeing her child, of loving her child in those first few moments of
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that child's life. She instead wants to go through a procedure called a D&E, a dilation and extraction,
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where her cervix would be dilated and her child at this point in gestation is so big that she would
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actually have to be dismembered before she is removed from her mother's womb. And so a doctor would go in
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with forceps and would take apart the child's body, ripping the child's arms and legs from the torso,
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removing the head from the torso in order to be able to remove this child piecemeal from this mother's womb.
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This is the procedure that this mother is suing the state
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And so I know that we're told that we're supposed to have a bunch of sympathy for this.
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And again, I do have sympathy for anyone receiving a terrible diagnosis for their child.
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I do not have sympathy for the desire to dismember your child.
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is that according to the Center for Reproductive Rights,
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the Center for Reproductive Rights Court Documents,
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the Center for Reproductive Rights is the organization that is representing this Texas woman.
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She is arguing that she wants to be able to have an abortion for her health,
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And so you don't qualify under Texas law as someone who can legally receive an abortion.
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She is saying, well, but my health is actually at risk.
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or here's what her lawyers at the Center for Reproductive Rights are arguing.
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Ms. Cox's physicians explained that some families with a trisomy 18 diagnosis
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choose to continue their pregnancies while others choose abortion.
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there was virtually no chance that their baby would survive to birth or long afterwards.
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Like there is a limit to these diagnostic tests.
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obviously it doesn't justify murdering an innocent image bearer of God.
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But she was told her baby probably wouldn't survive at all.
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Ms. Cox was shocked when her physician told her that due to Texas abortion bans,
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she would not be able to obtain an abortion in Texas.
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All they could do is continue to monitor the baby for cardiac activity.
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If the baby's heartbeat stopped, they could offer her a labor induction.
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induction carries a serious risk of uterine rupture.
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then you increase your risk of uterine rupture.
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And by the way, uterine rupture is actually much more dangerous
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for the baby in the womb than it is for the mother.
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Ms. Cox could receive an induction or a C-section.
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But it was clear to Ms. Cox, not her physicians,
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as someone who has had these conversations before,
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Now, I understand wanting to avoid those risks.
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That's why I had a vaginal birth after two C-sections
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you increase your risk of things like placenta accreta,
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where the placenta attaches to the scar tissue,
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You just don't want to have a huge number of C-sections.
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But look, there are women that have three C-sections,
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My grandmother had three C-sections back in the 60s,
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look, if your baby dies tragically inside the womb,
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We can give you a C-section if your baby survives to term.
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We can induce you if the baby survives to term.
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These are all options in order to keep her baby intact
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whether the baby was alive or not at the point of birth.
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Her doctors have given her all kinds of alternatives
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and the dignity that that little image bearer deserves.