Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 921 ｜ To the Texas Mom Suing to Abort Her Baby

00:00:00.000 A Texas woman is suing the state in order to have an abortion after receiving a tragic

00:00:07.180 diagnosis for her baby. Is this justified? Also, Shane Dawson, a controversial YouTuber,

00:00:16.560 has welcomed twin boys with his partner, Fia Surrogate. You know, I've got a lot to say about

00:00:25.060 both of these things. We'll also comment on a few other stories. This episode is brought to

00:00:29.880 by our friends at Good Ranchers. Go to goodranchers.com. Use code Allie at checkout. That's

00:00:34.700 goodranchers.com, code Allie. Hey, y'all. Welcome to Relatable. Happy Tuesday. Yes, it's Tuesday.

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00:01:08.320 got so much to cover today. This week is the last week that we are filming before Christmas. We've

00:01:15.600 got some episodes that are coming out over the next few weeks. But the three weeks of our Christmas

00:01:22.440 New Year's break, we will not be putting out new episodes every day. Just a little holiday break

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00:02:44.460 and remember that God is in control and that there are still things to laugh about and be joyful

00:02:49.760 about. So we got to take a little breather as the Relatable team over the next few weeks. So until

00:02:56.560 then, though, because we've still got the new episodes today, tomorrow and Thursday, we've got a

00:03:01.420 lot to talk about, a lot to get through before we take our break. Okay, so I first want to talk about

00:03:08.180 this story that so many of you have sent me that I've seen all over social media, and that is about

00:03:13.200 this Texas woman whose name is Kate Cox, who is seeking an abortion at 20 weeks, halfway through

00:03:19.160 her pregnancy, saying that she will leave the state for the procedure and courts are currently

00:03:27.360 weighing her case. You might have heard that the courts granted her so-called right to have 0.98

00:03:34.000 an abortion, but the battle is still ongoing. This is a kind of complicated case because Texas has 0.94

00:03:41.280 banned most abortions. But there is an exception in Texas for the life or the health of a mother,

00:03:51.080 of the mother. This is what section 170A.002 says. It prohibits a person from performing,

00:04:00.860 inducing, or attempting an abortion. There is an exception for situations in which the life or

00:04:05.000 health of the pregnant patient, it says, is at risk. In order for the exception to apply,

00:04:10.880 three factors must be met. A licensed physician must perform the abortion. The patient must have a life 0.90

00:04:16.640 threatening condition and be at risk of death or substantial impairment of a major bodily function.

00:04:22.840 If the abortion is not performed, the physician must try to save the life of the fetus unless this would

00:04:29.000 increase the risk of the pregnant patient's death or impairment. So that's what the law says

00:04:34.940 post Dobbs v. Jackson in the state of Texas. And so why is this woman, Kate Cox, suing the state in

00:04:44.380 order to have an abortion in Texas? Well, her child, her baby, was diagnosed with something called

00:04:51.960 Trisomy 18. Some people might pronounce it Trisomy 18, a rare chromosomal disorder, which is usually,

00:05:03.140 but not always, fatal. It's a disorder in which babies are born to three copies of the 18th chromosome

00:05:09.720 instead of two. So this is according to the NIH National Library of Medicine. Five to 10% of children

00:05:18.560 with this condition, which is typically screened prenatally, so in the womb, live past their

00:05:25.500 first year and often have severe intellectual disability. Despite the well-known infant mortality,

00:05:33.580 approximately 50% of babies with Trisomy 18 live longer than one week outside of the womb. Five to

00:05:40.640 10% of these children live beyond the first year. But the major causes of death when it comes to these

00:05:48.500 children diagnosed with this condition include central apnea, cardiac failure due to cardiac

00:05:54.580 malformations, respiratory insufficiency due to hypoventilation, aspiration, or upper airway

00:06:01.380 obstruction, and likely the combination of these and other factors. Upper airway obstruction is likely

00:06:09.480 more common than previously realized and should be investigated when full care is opted by the family

00:06:14.540 and medical team. So that's according to this finding. So there is a high mortality rate when it comes

00:06:25.140 to these children. So obviously this diagnosis in the womb is devastating for a parent because

00:06:32.660 your child, your wanted child that you are so excited about birthing, excited about raising,

00:06:40.720 is either going to die pretty quickly after death or is going to have a severe disability if the diagnosis

00:06:50.600 is correct. And so I can sympathize with this mother that she is devastated over this diagnosis. Of course,

00:06:59.000 she had hopes and dreams for this child and those hopes and dreams have come crashing down since she was

00:07:04.560 told that her baby has trisomy 18. What I cannot sympathize with is her intent to get an abortion,

00:07:13.860 her desire to abort her child at 20 weeks gestation and beyond, and that she is so passionate about being

00:07:22.100 able to abort her child that she is actually suing the state of Texas and she is being hoisted up as a 0.72

00:07:28.440 hero, as a representation of all women of bodily autonomy in her pursuit to abort her child. Now, 0.65

00:07:37.420 you might be wondering on what grounds is she suing the state? If the state already has an exception for

00:07:43.760 the health and the life of the mother, what justification is she and are her lawyers presenting

00:07:51.700 to the state to say, hey, she should be able to abort her child. Well, I will tell you that and then I

00:07:58.960 will do my best to debunk their reasoning in just one second. Okay, so Cox and her husband

00:08:18.520 sought a court order to block Texas's abortion bans from applying to her case. She said that she was

00:08:24.960 stunned when her doctor told her that she wouldn't be able to legally have an abortion. Now, why does 0.69

00:08:30.260 she want to have an abortion? She wants to have an abortion because she doesn't want to birth a child 1.00

00:08:35.420 with these special needs because she doesn't, I guess, want to go through the process of holding her

00:08:43.040 child, of caring for her child, of seeing her child, of loving her child in those first few moments of

00:08:49.740 that child's life. She instead wants to go through a procedure called a D&E, a dilation and extraction, 1.00

00:08:56.560 where her cervix would be dilated and her child at this point in gestation is so big that she would

00:09:04.760 actually have to be dismembered before she is removed from her mother's womb. And so a doctor would go in 1.00

00:09:11.460 with forceps and would take apart the child's body, ripping the child's arms and legs from the torso,

00:09:19.780 removing the head from the torso in order to be able to remove this child piecemeal from this mother's womb. 0.99

00:09:27.300 This is the procedure that this mother is suing the state 1.00

00:09:31.560 to be able to access.

00:09:34.880 And so I know that we're told that we're supposed to have a bunch of sympathy for this.

00:09:41.220 And again, I do have sympathy for anyone receiving a terrible diagnosis for their child.

00:09:46.160 I do not have sympathy for the desire to dismember your child.

00:09:50.680 I simply don't.

00:09:52.280 Now, here's an interesting tidbit,

00:09:55.400 is that according to the Center for Reproductive Rights,

00:09:59.880 the Center for Reproductive Rights Court Documents,

00:10:02.000 the Center for Reproductive Rights is the organization that is representing this Texas woman. 0.96

00:10:08.680 She is arguing that she wants to be able to have an abortion for her health, 0.72

00:10:14.740 even though the doctors have told her,

00:10:16.860 hey, your life is not at risk here.

00:10:18.960 And so you don't qualify under Texas law as someone who can legally receive an abortion. 0.99

00:10:25.380 She is saying, well, but my health is actually at risk.

00:10:29.480 And here's what she says,

00:10:31.460 or here's what her lawyers at the Center for Reproductive Rights are arguing. 0.99

00:10:36.480 Ms. Cox's physicians explained that some families with a trisomy 18 diagnosis

00:10:41.140 choose to continue their pregnancies while others choose abortion.

00:10:43.840 She was told that in her case,

00:10:45.020 there was virtually no chance that their baby would survive to birth or long afterwards.

00:10:49.180 So Ms. Cox asked about termination. 1.00

00:10:51.740 By the way, doctors are very often wrong.

00:10:54.360 Like there is a limit to these diagnostic tests.

00:10:59.120 They are not always right.

00:11:00.820 Even if even if they are right,

00:11:02.900 obviously it doesn't justify murdering an innocent image bearer of God.

00:11:07.540 But very often they're wrong, by the way.

00:11:09.820 But she was told her baby probably wouldn't survive at all.

00:11:12.740 Ms. Cox was shocked when her physician told her that due to Texas abortion bans, 0.99

00:11:16.640 as long as her baby had a heartbeat,

00:11:18.600 she would not be able to obtain an abortion in Texas. 0.99

00:11:20.860 All they could do is continue to monitor the baby for cardiac activity.

00:11:24.980 If the baby's heartbeat stopped, they could offer her a labor induction.

00:11:28.860 But because of her prior C-sections,

00:11:30.900 induction carries a serious risk of uterine rupture.

00:11:35.120 It carries about a 2% risk.

00:11:37.340 So I'll say that as someone who had a VBAC,

00:11:40.160 a vaginal birth after cesarean,

00:11:41.800 after two C-sections,

00:11:43.320 I am pretty familiar with the risks there.

00:11:47.140 If you use pitocin,

00:11:48.500 which is what is used in a labor induction,

00:11:50.840 the synthetic form of oxytocin,

00:11:52.700 which is necessary for the uterus to contract, 1.00

00:11:55.320 then you increase your risk of uterine rupture.

00:11:57.960 You have that scar in your uterus. 0.99

00:11:59.640 There's a chance of it opening up.

00:12:01.240 It's about a 2% risk.

00:12:02.500 So a 98% chance that that will not happen.

00:12:06.780 But there's a 2% risk that it will happen.

00:12:09.200 I'm not saying that's not a risk at all.

00:12:11.040 And by the way, uterine rupture is actually much more dangerous

00:12:14.160 for the baby in the womb than it is for the mother.

00:12:16.760 Again, I'm not saying it's nothing,

00:12:18.460 but the risk is still very, still very low.

00:12:23.140 But they go on to say this.

00:12:25.280 If the baby survived to term,

00:12:27.060 Ms. Cox could receive an induction or a C-section. 0.91

00:12:30.200 But it was clear to Ms. Cox, not her physicians,

00:12:33.360 it was clear to Ms. Cox that C-section

00:12:34.920 was the safer option for her health

00:12:38.220 because of the risk of uterine rupture

00:12:40.320 with induction given her prior two C-sections.

00:12:43.860 Yet, Ms. Cox's physicians also explained

00:12:46.420 that a C-section at full term

00:12:48.220 would make subsequent pregnancies higher risk

00:12:51.020 and make it less likely that she would be able

00:12:53.520 to carry a third child in the future.

00:12:55.480 So let me break this down for you

00:12:56.840 as someone who has had these conversations before,

00:12:59.420 as someone who, again, had a VBAC,

00:13:02.240 a vaginal birth after cesarean,

00:13:03.680 after two C-sections.

00:13:04.960 So she's had two C-sections.

00:13:06.600 She is being told,

00:13:07.600 if you have a third C-section with this child,

00:13:10.080 if you bring this child to term,

00:13:11.640 that is going to increase the risks

00:13:13.620 of your future pregnancies.

00:13:18.320 That risk is very low.

00:13:20.960 Now, I understand wanting to avoid those risks.

00:13:23.740 That's why I had a vaginal birth after two C-sections

00:13:26.380 because the more C-sections you have,

00:13:29.100 you increase your risk of things like placenta accreta,

00:13:31.920 where the placenta attaches to the scar tissue,

00:13:34.720 which can be very dangerous.

00:13:36.500 You just don't want to have a huge number of C-sections.

00:13:39.280 But look, there are women that have three C-sections, 1.00

00:13:41.280 four C-sections.

00:13:42.080 My grandmother had three C-sections back in the 60s,

00:13:45.700 and she was okay.

00:13:47.220 There are women who have eight C-sections. 1.00

00:13:49.840 And so she is using a very negligible risk

00:13:53.480 to justify her pursuit of an abortion. 0.78

00:13:58.360 And so she's given a lot of options here.

00:14:00.080 She's told by her physicians,

00:14:01.880 look, if your baby dies tragically inside the womb,

00:14:04.360 we can induce your labor. 0.90

00:14:06.440 And she would be fully monitored.

00:14:08.600 She would be monitored in that case.

00:14:10.740 If there were any emergency situation,

00:14:12.880 they would take care of her very quickly.

00:14:15.780 And in that case,

00:14:17.320 she would be able to birth her baby whole.

00:14:19.640 Or they said, look, we can,

00:14:21.040 if you don't want to go through the risk

00:14:22.940 of having an induction,

00:14:25.520 then we can give you a C-section.

00:14:27.240 We can give you a C-section if your baby dies.

00:14:29.400 We can give you a C-section if your baby survives to term.

00:14:34.160 We can induce you if the baby survives to term.

00:14:36.560 These are all options in order to keep her baby intact

00:14:40.620 and to protect the life,

00:14:42.920 to protect the body of her baby

00:14:44.620 so she'd be able to meet her baby

00:14:46.160 and hold her baby,

00:14:47.260 whether the baby was alive or not at the point of birth.

00:14:51.060 But because of the very low, relatively,

00:14:53.680 the very low risks that both induction bring

00:14:58.260 and repeat C-section bring,

00:15:02.680 she's saying no.

00:15:03.860 She doesn't want to carry those very low risks

00:15:06.560 to her own body.

00:15:07.960 And so she wants to sacrifice her child's body 0.99

00:15:11.800 on her behalf.

00:15:13.580 That's the decision that she's making.

00:15:15.520 Her doctors have given her all kinds of alternatives

00:15:17.960 and she's said no because she is intent

00:15:20.900 upon dismembering her baby's body.

00:15:24.460 I don't have sympathy for that.

00:15:27.040 I'm sorry.

00:15:27.840 I don't.

00:15:28.600 I don't have compassion for that.

00:15:30.300 I don't have empathy for that.

00:15:31.820 I don't have understanding of that.

00:15:33.860 You have the options,

00:15:35.220 several options on the table

00:15:36.900 to be able to meet your child safely,

00:15:40.100 to be able to hold your child,

00:15:41.440 to see your child's face,

00:15:42.940 whether they are born dead or alive 0.65

00:15:46.300 and you are choosing brutal murder

00:15:48.340 and you are so intent upon brutal murder

00:15:51.300 that you are suing the state for it

00:15:53.140 and that you're being hoisted up

00:15:55.720 as some kind of media icon,

00:15:57.720 some kind of champion

00:15:58.980 of so-called reproductive rights.

00:16:02.380 Look, there are women 1.00

00:16:03.700 who receive these tragic diagnoses every day.

00:16:07.780 They had all kinds of hopes for their child

00:16:10.400 and those hopes are dashed

00:16:11.620 when they are told that their child

00:16:12.840 will not either live to term

00:16:14.880 or live long past the point that they are born

00:16:18.720 and they make the difficult decision

00:16:20.700 and all parents are called

00:16:22.160 to make difficult decisions

00:16:23.240 where we lay down our desires,

00:16:26.940 our wants,

00:16:27.600 even in some cases our safety

00:16:29.580 and our health for the sake of our child.

00:16:33.200 They make that difficult decision

00:16:35.020 to carry their child to term

00:16:37.480 and to see their child face to face

00:16:39.860 and to give their child the love

00:16:41.620 and the dignity that that little image bearer deserves.

00:16:46.240 It is not necessary for this woman 1.00

00:16:48.480 to have an abortion.

00:16:49.300 She just wants an abortion. 1.00

00:16:51.840 I guess she does not want

00:16:53.420 to be able to hold her child whole.

00:16:56.700 Because look,

00:16:57.560 either way,

00:16:58.360 this child is delivered.

00:17:00.320 She's acting like

00:17:01.380 if she chooses an abortion,

00:17:02.740 she mitigates all risk.

00:17:04.020 that the risk is only on the side

00:17:07.560 of delivering this child

00:17:08.700 via C-section

00:17:09.500 or vaginal birth

00:17:10.540 with an induction.

00:17:11.780 That's not true.

00:17:12.800 Either way,

00:17:13.300 the child has to come out.

00:17:15.240 There are going to be risks

00:17:16.720 to prematurely

00:17:18.120 dilating your uterus 0.96

00:17:20.300 at 20, 21 weeks

00:17:22.020 or dilating your cervix, rather,

00:17:24.380 at 20, 20 weeks gestation.

00:17:28.520 There is going to be risk

00:17:30.420 to that abortion. 0.99

00:17:31.520 There is going to be a risk

00:17:33.360 to dismembering that child 0.77

00:17:34.920 with forceps 1.00

00:17:35.660 and removing them 0.99

00:17:36.860 from your uterus. 0.99

00:17:37.720 There is going to be a risk

00:17:39.440 to removing your placenta

00:17:42.060 prematurely

00:17:44.040 if you've got a scar

00:17:45.960 on your uterus 0.96

00:17:46.860 or even if you don't.

00:17:48.280 There are risks

00:17:49.060 to the abortion procedure.

00:17:51.780 You just want an abortion. 1.00

00:17:54.220 Just say that.

00:17:55.560 It's not about your health.

00:17:58.020 It's not about

00:17:59.180 the well-being of your child

00:18:01.340 either way

00:18:02.140 that child's got to come out.

00:18:04.020 Either way,

00:18:04.760 there is some risk to you.

00:18:06.440 There's some risk

00:18:07.540 to your uterus. 0.95

00:18:09.120 There's some risk

00:18:10.020 to your body.

00:18:11.860 Either you can

00:18:12.680 take that risk on

00:18:14.240 and allow your child

00:18:16.020 to honor your child's

00:18:17.620 dignity

00:18:18.980 or

00:18:20.580 you can

00:18:22.180 take the risk

00:18:23.000 of an abortion

00:18:23.600 and not honor

00:18:24.920 or dignify your child.

00:18:26.320 Those are the two choices here.

00:18:27.740 So people are sending

00:18:30.160 this to me

00:18:31.100 wondering what I would say.

00:18:32.920 That's what I would say.

00:18:34.340 That's what I would say.

00:18:36.700 Beware

00:18:37.220 of toxic empathy.

00:18:40.500 Empathy says,

00:18:42.060 good empathy says this.

00:18:44.180 I understand

00:18:45.000 this mother's pain,

00:18:47.420 how difficult

00:18:47.940 it must have been

00:18:49.220 to hear that diagnosis.

00:18:52.620 That's empathy.

00:18:53.760 I understand that.

00:18:54.820 I can put myself

00:18:55.840 in her shoes.

00:18:56.360 I feel that pain

00:18:57.260 and gosh,

00:18:57.580 I feel for her so much.

00:18:59.300 How can I be there for her?

00:19:00.820 How can I speak life to her?

00:19:02.040 How can I encourage her?

00:19:03.240 What can I do

00:19:04.140 to comfort her

00:19:05.380 and remind her

00:19:06.400 of God's goodness

00:19:08.240 and love

00:19:09.200 and care

00:19:09.780 and plan for her?

00:19:13.200 Toxic empathy says,

00:19:14.840 I feel for you

00:19:17.020 and I will affirm

00:19:19.020 whatever choice you make

00:19:20.820 because I feel for you.

00:19:22.740 Oh,

00:19:23.200 you are sad

00:19:24.140 that you have this diagnosis,

00:19:25.920 you want an abortion. 0.71

00:19:27.300 I will celebrate that.

00:19:28.540 I will affirm that.

00:19:29.600 I will agree with that.

00:19:32.820 That's toxic empathy.

00:19:34.200 Toxic empathy says,

00:19:35.660 only focus on your feelings,

00:19:38.020 on her feelings.

00:19:39.200 Don't think about

00:19:40.340 the vulnerable victim

00:19:41.480 inside the womb.

00:19:42.200 Don't think about

00:19:42.880 the reality of abortion.

00:19:44.100 Don't think about

00:19:44.700 the morality

00:19:45.980 of killing

00:19:47.100 an innocent child.

00:19:48.420 true love says,

00:19:51.700 I understand

00:19:53.320 how this mother feels

00:19:56.000 and I understand

00:19:57.320 that the baby

00:19:58.500 inside her womb 0.99

00:19:59.540 is an image bearer of God.

00:20:01.860 I understand

00:20:02.560 both of these things.

00:20:03.980 And so,

00:20:04.480 in love,

00:20:06.140 I am going to have

00:20:07.840 compassion

00:20:08.460 for both parties here.

00:20:11.200 I am going to

00:20:12.560 speak truth

00:20:13.700 and I am going

00:20:15.780 to advocate

00:20:17.320 for the life

00:20:18.580 and the well-being

00:20:19.580 of both of these parties.

00:20:21.700 That is the Christian

00:20:22.580 stance on this.

00:20:23.480 That is the compassionate

00:20:24.420 stance on this.

00:20:25.680 That is the biblical 0.72

00:20:26.540 stance on this.

00:20:29.320 There is no justification

00:20:30.420 for this woman 0.98

00:20:31.400 to kill her child. 1.00

00:20:33.920 Her sweet, 1.00

00:20:35.420 image-bearing

00:20:36.380 child.

00:20:37.560 There's just not.

00:20:38.980 She's just being used 0.74

00:20:40.700 as a tool,

00:20:42.780 as a prop

00:20:43.780 to try to show,

00:20:45.360 wow, see,

00:20:46.440 this tragic case,

00:20:47.380 abortion is necessary. 0.99

00:20:49.180 No, it's not. 1.00

00:20:50.860 Murdering this child 0.98

00:20:51.800 is not necessary. 1.00

00:20:53.340 Either way,

00:20:53.940 she will be delivered.

00:20:55.040 This mother has the choice 0.99

00:20:56.280 between delivering

00:20:57.560 her child whole

00:20:58.760 or delivering

00:20:59.620 her child dismembered. 0.76

00:21:00.940 And she is choosing

00:21:01.880 the latter.

00:21:03.040 We do not

00:21:03.920 have to have empathy

00:21:04.920 for that decision.

00:21:10.700 Okay, let's talk

00:21:19.820 about Shane Dawson.

00:21:22.220 Must we?

00:21:23.300 Yes, we must.

00:21:25.000 So we've talked

00:21:25.720 about him a few times.

00:21:26.780 If you follow me

00:21:27.340 on Instagram,

00:21:28.000 you've probably seen

00:21:28.800 some of my commentary

00:21:29.760 or maybe some of my commentary

00:21:31.240 on Twitter or X.

00:21:34.300 I've really got to get

00:21:35.440 used to saying X.

00:21:38.180 You've probably seen

00:21:39.240 some of the things

00:21:39.860 that I've said about this

00:21:41.500 because this story

00:21:43.080 makes me very,

00:21:44.680 very, very sad.

00:21:46.460 So YouTubers Shane Dawson

00:21:48.100 and Ryland Adams,

00:21:49.660 a gay couple,

00:21:50.540 welcome twin boys

00:21:52.100 via surrogate.

00:21:53.540 So let me back up

00:21:54.600 a little bit

00:21:55.560 and tell you about

00:21:56.700 this couple.

00:21:57.240 We've talked about them.

00:21:58.100 I think we've done

00:21:58.540 a couple episodes on them.

00:21:59.660 We can link those episodes

00:22:00.700 if you want to go

00:22:01.440 listen to them.

00:22:04.300 But they are,

00:22:06.960 Shane Dawson

00:22:07.640 is,

00:22:08.520 has been a YouTuber

00:22:09.240 for a very long time.

00:22:10.520 He's got a ton

00:22:11.320 of followers,

00:22:12.060 a really big platform,

00:22:13.100 and he's been in hot water

00:22:14.420 several times

00:22:15.140 for things that he said.

00:22:16.800 The most disturbing things

00:22:18.460 that he said

00:22:19.200 have had to do

00:22:21.260 with pedophilia.

00:22:22.880 He has joked about

00:22:24.720 looking up

00:22:25.560 child sex abuse material,

00:22:27.620 what's typically referred to 0.99

00:22:28.800 as child porn. 0.75

00:22:30.920 And he said that he thought 0.99

00:22:32.920 that it was sexy.

00:22:34.300 he has talked about

00:22:36.020 11-year-old girls

00:22:37.920 on social media

00:22:39.260 that he's seen

00:22:40.220 that he thought

00:22:41.060 were sexually attractive.

00:22:44.080 He has made jokes,

00:22:45.460 so-called,

00:22:46.260 about bestiality.

00:22:48.220 So he's made

00:22:49.480 a lot of

00:22:50.480 very disturbing comments

00:22:52.500 and enough comments

00:22:53.980 that are pedophilia-related

00:22:55.420 for anyone to wonder

00:22:57.220 what is really going on.

00:22:59.680 Just to ask the question

00:23:01.240 of what's on the hard drives there,

00:23:03.200 I think that's

00:23:04.600 very reasonable

00:23:05.520 to be curious about

00:23:07.220 based on the things

00:23:08.540 that Shane Dawson

00:23:09.360 has said.

00:23:10.480 And now he has

00:23:11.600 bought his children.

00:23:13.060 Now he's bought his children.

00:23:14.400 And he and his partner,

00:23:16.240 Ryland Adams,

00:23:17.160 have been documenting

00:23:18.040 this experience

00:23:18.940 on YouTube,

00:23:19.740 of course.

00:23:20.440 Gotta monetize it.

00:23:21.700 Gotta monetize the babies 0.99

00:23:23.020 that they're buying.

00:23:23.920 Gotta make that

00:23:24.540 money back somehow.

00:23:27.460 And they have joked,

00:23:29.700 again,

00:23:30.240 quote-unquote,

00:23:30.880 joked about buying

00:23:32.680 the biological mother

00:23:34.880 of their children

00:23:36.080 in a catalog

00:23:37.020 and doing the same thing

00:23:39.040 for the surrogate

00:23:40.160 of their children.

00:23:41.440 And as we've talked

00:23:42.100 about many times,

00:23:42.900 that's how the process goes.

00:23:44.820 If you're buying

00:23:45.760 an egg donor,

00:23:46.840 there are services

00:23:47.580 that you can employ

00:23:50.020 that you can hire

00:23:51.800 to help match you

00:23:53.080 with the egg donor

00:23:53.940 of your choice.

00:23:55.020 And you basically

00:23:55.820 look through a catalog.

00:23:58.200 What eye color

00:23:58.840 do you want?

00:23:59.340 What hair color

00:23:59.900 do you want?

00:24:00.380 What ethnicity

00:24:00.880 do you want?

00:24:01.820 What socioeconomic

00:24:02.880 background do you want?

00:24:04.100 What are you thinking

00:24:04.720 as far as education,

00:24:06.640 IQ,

00:24:07.500 all of that?

00:24:08.160 You want that,

00:24:08.900 you know,

00:24:09.440 premium DNA,

00:24:10.600 like you're buying

00:24:11.260 a cut of meat.

00:24:12.860 And they buy

00:24:14.060 these eggs

00:24:14.520 from the woman.

00:24:15.180 Now,

00:24:15.960 an interesting thing

00:24:16.920 that I only started

00:24:17.680 thinking about

00:24:18.600 a few months ago

00:24:20.920 was this phrase

00:24:22.820 egg donor,

00:24:23.800 egg donation.

00:24:25.040 I'm like,

00:24:25.600 why are they calling it

00:24:26.620 egg donor,

00:24:27.400 egg donation,

00:24:28.180 when that's not

00:24:29.340 really what's happening?

00:24:30.460 Obviously,

00:24:31.000 these women 0.99

00:24:31.460 who are harvesting

00:24:32.500 their eggs,

00:24:33.080 they have to go

00:24:33.540 through an intense

00:24:34.240 medical process

00:24:35.340 to do that,

00:24:36.540 by the way,

00:24:37.080 to stimulate

00:24:37.740 their eggs

00:24:39.460 and then to harvest

00:24:40.300 them and all that.

00:24:41.720 They're making

00:24:42.380 a lot of money

00:24:42.900 from that.

00:24:43.520 That's why they do it.

00:24:44.600 It's not altruistic.

00:24:45.920 It's not out of the goodness

00:24:46.620 of their heart.

00:24:47.180 They're making money

00:24:48.080 by selling their DNA,

00:24:50.100 selling their future children.

00:24:52.740 It's called egg donation

00:24:54.020 because it's actually

00:24:54.720 illegal to sell

00:24:56.240 your own human tissue.

00:24:58.180 And the United States.

00:24:59.840 And so they're technically

00:25:01.340 donating their eggs,

00:25:03.720 but being paid

00:25:04.740 for their time

00:25:05.700 and effort.

00:25:06.540 Isn't that cute?

00:25:08.880 How they're able

00:25:09.880 to kind of get around that.

00:25:10.940 Of course,

00:25:11.200 it's the same thing

00:25:12.180 for sperm,

00:25:13.560 sperm donation.

00:25:14.840 I've started to try

00:25:15.740 to say egg selling

00:25:16.820 and sperm selling 0.98

00:25:18.120 because that is really

00:25:19.380 what it is.

00:25:20.100 Obviously,

00:25:20.840 the people buying

00:25:21.880 these things

00:25:22.420 are buying the DNA.

00:25:24.080 They're purchasing

00:25:24.700 the DNA.

00:25:25.400 That is really

00:25:25.920 what they're paying for.

00:25:26.680 So they went

00:25:28.880 through the catalog.

00:25:29.900 They decided

00:25:30.460 who their egg donor

00:25:31.360 was going to be.

00:25:32.400 And then the egg donor,

00:25:34.440 the biological mother,

00:25:36.000 is separate

00:25:36.800 from the surrogate.

00:25:38.420 The surrogate

00:25:38.900 also has to be chosen

00:25:40.300 based on the background

00:25:41.520 and based on

00:25:43.080 what characteristics

00:25:43.960 that you are looking for.

00:25:45.980 There's another service

00:25:47.040 that can give you

00:25:48.260 the catalog

00:25:48.840 of surrogates

00:25:49.760 to choose from.

00:25:50.640 Sometimes the surrogate

00:25:51.820 is someone

00:25:52.440 that a couple knows.

00:25:54.260 Again,

00:25:54.860 whether it's two men

00:25:55.840 or whether it's a man

00:25:56.640 and a woman

00:25:56.980 seeking a surrogate,

00:25:57.940 but a lot of times

00:25:58.700 it is a complete stranger.

00:26:00.580 Now,

00:26:00.820 why is the egg seller

00:26:02.220 and the surrogate,

00:26:04.080 why are they separate?

00:26:06.080 Typically,

00:26:06.500 this is a legal requirement

00:26:07.920 to try to separate

00:26:09.540 the bond

00:26:10.720 that the woman

00:26:12.860 would have

00:26:13.500 with the child.

00:26:14.720 It's like we understand

00:26:16.900 that that is

00:26:18.280 the natural relationship

00:26:20.260 that is supposed

00:26:21.060 to be formed.

00:26:22.420 When you take the egg

00:26:23.720 from one woman

00:26:24.560 and you put it

00:26:26.300 in the womb

00:26:26.800 of another woman,

00:26:28.000 you are severing

00:26:29.220 that bond

00:26:29.820 that's created,

00:26:30.600 at least for the women, 0.97

00:26:31.580 not for the child,

00:26:32.520 by the way.

00:26:33.020 The child

00:26:33.540 is still creating

00:26:34.800 that bond,

00:26:35.500 creating that natural

00:26:36.620 and instinctive relationship

00:26:38.120 with the woman 0.73

00:26:40.320 that is carrying them.

00:26:42.040 He knows her sounds.

00:26:43.220 He knows her heartbeat.

00:26:45.140 He knows her voice.

00:26:46.180 He knows her smell.

00:26:47.340 He knows how

00:26:47.860 she feels.

00:26:49.160 He longs for her

00:26:51.340 the second

00:26:52.020 that they take him

00:26:52.580 out of the womb.

00:26:53.120 He wants that skin-to-skin.

00:26:55.140 He craves her milk.

00:26:56.760 And yet,

00:26:57.620 in worse treatment

00:26:58.600 than we give to puppies,

00:27:00.000 we rip that child away, 0.73

00:27:01.880 both from the biological mother

00:27:03.440 and from the woman

00:27:04.840 who carried him,

00:27:06.220 and we give him

00:27:07.720 to the two strangers,

00:27:11.300 to, in this case,

00:27:12.300 two males

00:27:12.840 that they don't know

00:27:14.100 who sounds

00:27:14.800 and smells

00:27:15.500 and sights.

00:27:17.260 they are completely

00:27:18.280 unfamiliar with,

00:27:19.900 and we hope

00:27:21.560 for the best.

00:27:22.780 So, we force children

00:27:24.000 into this social experiment,

00:27:26.460 and we hope

00:27:27.780 for the best.

00:27:29.080 So, that's what's

00:27:29.920 happening here.

00:27:30.940 They got two boys

00:27:31.960 out of this process.

00:27:33.520 They've talked before

00:27:34.380 about how they,

00:27:35.640 that's a picture of them

00:27:36.540 if you're watching

00:27:37.600 on YouTube.

00:27:38.940 There's lots and lots

00:27:39.780 of likes on Instagram,

00:27:40.660 which is just

00:27:41.620 really soul-crushing.

00:27:44.040 They've talked about

00:27:44.920 how they have

00:27:45.500 12 embryos

00:27:47.780 that they created.

00:27:50.280 Obviously,

00:27:50.800 they are not going

00:27:51.660 to bring

00:27:52.640 all of those embryos

00:27:53.900 to fruition,

00:27:54.900 so most,

00:27:56.300 if not all,

00:27:57.160 the rest of those embryos

00:27:58.340 are going to be

00:27:59.340 discarded.

00:28:00.440 This is a problem

00:28:01.220 with anyone

00:28:01.840 using IVF,

00:28:03.280 by the way,

00:28:04.020 not just

00:28:05.200 this couple.

00:28:06.540 They've talked about,

00:28:07.580 oh, it's cheaper

00:28:08.300 by the dozen.

00:28:09.360 They even have made

00:28:10.260 comments about,

00:28:11.260 oh, we don't like

00:28:12.020 playing God

00:28:13.000 by choosing

00:28:13.900 our embryos,

00:28:15.840 but of course,

00:28:16.440 that is exactly

00:28:17.420 what they're doing.

00:28:18.620 That's exactly

00:28:19.400 what they're doing.

00:28:21.040 So what's going

00:28:21.880 to happen

00:28:22.220 to those little embryos?

00:28:23.560 I'm not sure,

00:28:24.500 but now

00:28:25.680 they have

00:28:26.520 their two boys

00:28:27.520 from buying

00:28:28.840 the eggs

00:28:29.440 from one woman,

00:28:30.320 renting the womb 1.00

00:28:31.020 of another woman, 0.56

00:28:32.520 robbing these children

00:28:33.560 of the opportunity

00:28:34.640 to know their mother,

00:28:36.840 to know half

00:28:37.440 of their DNA,

00:28:38.280 but also robbing them

00:28:39.420 of the love

00:28:40.540 of any mother,

00:28:41.240 the love

00:28:42.060 of any woman.

00:28:44.040 And just to show

00:28:45.460 just how dystopian

00:28:46.760 and women

00:28:48.080 replacing

00:28:48.820 this whole situation

00:28:49.880 is,

00:28:50.280 I'll put up

00:28:50.680 this picture

00:28:51.520 that they decided

00:28:52.520 to post.

00:28:53.820 And this picture

00:28:54.680 is Ryland,

00:28:55.800 and he's laying

00:28:56.900 on the hospital bed,

00:28:58.600 obviously very

00:28:59.580 exhausted

00:29:00.900 from labor,

00:29:02.400 right next

00:29:03.340 to the little baby

00:29:05.300 in their bassinets.

00:29:07.040 And he is,

00:29:08.800 I mean,

00:29:09.060 this is just 0.99

00:29:09.480 so ridiculous. 0.99

00:29:10.200 He's laying 0.98

00:29:10.780 on the hospital bed

00:29:11.920 sleeping.

00:29:13.780 He's on what's

00:29:14.680 called a chuck pad.

00:29:16.100 And that's

00:29:16.920 the little pad

00:29:18.760 that they put

00:29:19.440 underneath women 1.00

00:29:20.600 who have given

00:29:21.400 birth to absorb,

00:29:23.220 just to be a little graphic,

00:29:24.360 to absorb the

00:29:24.980 postpartum bleeding.

00:29:26.740 And I say that

00:29:27.440 to emphasize

00:29:28.180 like what we go,

00:29:29.580 what we women 0.97

00:29:31.440 go through,

00:29:32.280 what the surrogate

00:29:33.200 went through

00:29:33.940 in giving birth.

00:29:35.160 And he's laying

00:29:36.040 there cosplaying.

00:29:37.780 He's laying there

00:29:38.820 like he's so

00:29:39.560 exhausted

00:29:40.440 on a hospital bed

00:29:41.720 on the chuck pad

00:29:42.800 after having done

00:29:44.040 nothing except

00:29:45.020 for coughing up

00:29:45.900 some cash

00:29:46.820 to buy this baby. 0.99

00:29:49.800 It's disgusting. 0.99

00:29:51.320 It's dystopian.

00:29:54.200 Brave new world, 0.97

00:29:55.060 but make it gay. 0.94

00:29:56.380 That's what this is. 0.86

00:29:57.540 That's what this is.

00:29:58.560 It is,

00:29:59.180 I'm sorry,

00:29:59.700 but buying

00:30:00.460 these children

00:30:01.200 is a form

00:30:02.900 of human trafficking.

00:30:04.480 Yes, it is.

00:30:05.460 It is. 0.85

00:30:06.520 It's like prostitution

00:30:07.980 and human trafficking

00:30:09.040 all in one.

00:30:10.020 Super fun

00:30:10.700 because you're

00:30:12.000 buying the bodies

00:30:12.920 of women

00:30:13.480 and you are

00:30:14.980 purchasing

00:30:15.760 these children

00:30:16.920 by purchasing

00:30:19.340 their eggs,

00:30:20.340 purchasing half

00:30:20.960 of their DNA

00:30:21.620 from a woman 0.99

00:30:22.460 and without

00:30:24.040 their consent

00:30:24.720 carrying them

00:30:25.360 through this very

00:30:26.180 unnatural process

00:30:27.540 all to rob them

00:30:28.520 of a mother.

00:30:30.980 Yikes.

00:30:32.080 Yikes.

00:30:32.920 How could we ever

00:30:33.540 praise this?

00:30:34.320 How could we ever

00:30:35.020 justify something like this?

00:30:36.340 How is this even legal?

00:30:37.440 By the way,

00:30:37.840 it's not legal

00:30:38.640 in most places.

00:30:40.200 People think

00:30:40.960 that I'm so extreme

00:30:41.900 and so radical

00:30:42.720 for saying this.

00:30:43.600 Look,

00:30:43.860 most of the world,

00:30:45.380 even liberal countries

00:30:46.920 like Canada

00:30:48.320 and like European countries

00:30:50.020 are on my side

00:30:51.940 when it comes to this.

00:30:52.780 America is the wild,

00:30:54.260 wild west

00:30:55.200 when it comes

00:30:56.080 to the reproductive industry

00:30:57.340 and the reason

00:30:58.220 that it is

00:30:58.940 so accessible

00:31:00.720 is because

00:31:01.220 it makes money.

00:31:02.840 It makes a ton

00:31:03.640 of money

00:31:04.080 and the medical

00:31:05.420 industrial complex

00:31:06.640 in the United States

00:31:07.520 is second to none.

00:31:09.240 There's a lot

00:31:09.620 of great innovation

00:31:10.440 that comes out of it

00:31:11.280 but there is

00:31:12.040 a lot of sketchy stuff

00:31:13.660 whether you're looking

00:31:14.200 at the destruction

00:31:14.840 of bodies

00:31:16.520 through gender ideology

00:31:17.740 or whether you're looking

00:31:18.700 at the reproductive technology

00:31:20.280 that we allow

00:31:21.440 like with any,

00:31:23.300 without any mitigation

00:31:25.240 or restriction

00:31:25.960 whatsoever.

00:31:26.440 And let me just say

00:31:28.860 once again

00:31:30.000 how this is different

00:31:30.860 than adoption.

00:31:32.220 This is different

00:31:33.260 than adoption

00:31:33.860 because adoption

00:31:35.220 redeems a broken situation

00:31:37.460 that already exists

00:31:39.080 and surrogacy

00:31:41.720 slash egg

00:31:42.940 and sperm donation

00:31:43.920 create a broken situation.

00:31:47.220 In this case,

00:31:48.480 you are creating

00:31:49.520 the child

00:31:50.340 with the intention

00:31:52.300 of severing

00:31:54.180 the natural bond

00:31:55.480 between one of their

00:31:57.420 biological parents

00:31:58.620 and the natural bond

00:32:01.420 between them

00:32:02.120 and the woman 0.95

00:32:03.440 who carried them.

00:32:04.500 You are creating

00:32:05.720 that brokenness.

00:32:06.720 You are creating

00:32:07.980 these embryos

00:32:08.780 with the intention

00:32:09.780 of bringing them

00:32:11.280 into the world

00:32:11.960 in a way

00:32:12.440 that is going

00:32:13.120 to inflict

00:32:14.100 a primal wound

00:32:15.880 upon them.

00:32:17.920 With adoption,

00:32:19.640 the child

00:32:20.300 is already created.

00:32:21.460 maybe not

00:32:23.240 in an ideal

00:32:23.800 circumstance,

00:32:24.340 but for whatever

00:32:25.200 reason,

00:32:26.080 the mom and dad

00:32:26.840 cannot take care

00:32:27.880 of that child.

00:32:29.920 And so loving parents

00:32:31.640 in an ideal

00:32:32.520 adoption situation,

00:32:34.080 loving parents

00:32:34.720 come in

00:32:35.160 and they give

00:32:36.020 that child

00:32:36.560 the home

00:32:37.140 that they need.

00:32:38.300 The process

00:32:39.060 is entirely different.

00:32:40.820 The adoptive parents

00:32:41.840 are not picking

00:32:42.960 the biological parent

00:32:44.160 out of the catalog

00:32:45.280 in order to find

00:32:49.660 the prettiest

00:32:51.240 and brightest

00:32:51.860 and richest mom.

00:32:54.580 They are taking

00:32:55.160 the child

00:32:55.760 that needs help.

00:32:58.020 Also,

00:32:59.200 in adoption,

00:33:00.580 in adoption situations,

00:33:02.000 there is an extensive process.

00:33:06.640 There is an extensive

00:33:07.620 investigation

00:33:09.840 of your background

00:33:11.520 that is required

00:33:13.000 to adopt

00:33:13.900 a child.

00:33:14.800 That is not

00:33:15.920 the case

00:33:16.420 when it comes

00:33:17.080 to buying

00:33:18.780 eggs

00:33:20.460 and renting

00:33:20.920 wombs.

00:33:21.800 That is not

00:33:22.380 the case

00:33:22.780 when it comes

00:33:23.220 to surrogacy.

00:33:24.320 Trust me,

00:33:25.040 Shane Dawson

00:33:25.640 would not,

00:33:26.800 would not

00:33:28.120 have passed

00:33:28.780 a background check

00:33:29.700 when it comes

00:33:31.140 to this

00:33:31.520 if it came

00:33:31.980 to adoption.

00:33:33.180 There's no

00:33:34.240 such regulation.

00:33:36.360 There are

00:33:36.960 very few

00:33:37.860 requirements.

00:33:39.400 There are

00:33:39.600 very few

00:33:40.100 things

00:33:40.480 that you

00:33:40.780 have to

00:33:41.120 prove

00:33:41.500 when it

00:33:41.820 comes

00:33:42.080 to

00:33:42.520 buying

00:33:43.600 children

00:33:44.000 in this

00:33:44.420 way.

00:33:46.220 They're

00:33:46.780 totally

00:33:47.100 different.

00:33:47.540 They're

00:33:47.660 totally

00:33:47.920 different

00:33:48.220 ethically.

00:33:48.960 They're

00:33:49.080 totally

00:33:49.380 different

00:33:49.780 morally.

00:33:51.340 It's

00:33:51.480 redemption

00:33:52.040 versus

00:33:52.520 exploitation.

00:33:53.840 That's

00:33:54.100 what's

00:33:54.280 going on

00:33:54.740 here.

00:33:56.880 I'm

00:33:57.440 very

00:33:57.620 concerned

00:33:58.160 for these

00:33:59.120 poor

00:33:59.480 boys.

00:34:00.580 We,

00:34:00.820 of course,

00:34:01.540 need to

00:34:01.880 pray for

00:34:02.260 them.

00:34:04.120 These

00:34:04.600 little

00:34:04.800 boys,

00:34:05.500 of course,

00:34:06.120 have just

00:34:06.420 as much

00:34:06.720 worth and

00:34:07.080 value

00:34:07.560 as anyone

00:34:08.380 else.

00:34:08.860 They're

00:34:09.740 the

00:34:09.940 innocent

00:34:10.380 victims

00:34:10.980 in this

00:34:12.280 situation.

00:34:14.260 And they

00:34:15.320 are made

00:34:15.720 in the

00:34:16.000 image of

00:34:16.440 God.

00:34:17.020 They

00:34:17.140 matter.

00:34:17.820 I mean,

00:34:18.080 we should

00:34:18.400 pray for

00:34:19.040 Shane and

00:34:19.720 Ryland,

00:34:20.300 that they

00:34:20.600 know Christ,

00:34:21.420 that they

00:34:21.740 are able

00:34:22.220 to repent.

00:34:23.060 But gosh,

00:34:23.580 pray for

00:34:24.720 these sweet

00:34:25.660 boys.

00:34:27.060 Pray for

00:34:27.820 the children

00:34:30.000 who are

00:34:30.560 victims of

00:34:31.320 forced

00:34:31.700 fatherlessness

00:34:32.540 and forced

00:34:33.560 motherlessness,

00:34:34.940 who are

00:34:35.520 required to

00:34:36.760 sacrifice their

00:34:38.060 need for

00:34:38.800 a mom

00:34:39.320 and a

00:34:39.840 dad because

00:34:41.600 their parents

00:34:43.120 wanted

00:34:43.900 something.

00:34:45.920 Sacrifice their

00:34:46.760 own needs

00:34:48.660 for their

00:34:49.060 parents'

00:34:49.660 wants.

00:34:50.140 What do we

00:34:50.520 always say?

00:34:51.120 That children

00:34:51.480 are always

00:34:52.480 the unconsenting

00:34:53.780 subjects of

00:34:54.600 progressive social

00:34:55.560 experiments.

00:34:56.740 This is a

00:34:57.220 progressive social

00:34:58.100 experiment.

00:34:59.040 Whether it's

00:34:59.860 abortion,

00:35:00.460 whether it's

00:35:00.740 gender ideology,

00:35:01.900 whether it's

00:35:02.260 forced

00:35:02.520 masking and

00:35:03.900 lockdowns,

00:35:04.800 children are

00:35:05.380 always the

00:35:06.240 primary

00:35:06.700 unconsenting

00:35:07.760 victims,

00:35:09.860 the

00:35:10.000 unconsenting

00:35:11.000 parties in

00:35:13.380 these

00:35:13.800 progressive

00:35:14.640 social

00:35:15.100 experiments.

00:35:16.500 Very,

00:35:17.080 very sad.

00:35:19.080 Thank you

00:35:19.780 to those of

00:35:20.320 you who

00:35:20.580 have told

00:35:20.940 me that

00:35:21.740 your mind

00:35:22.900 has changed

00:35:24.480 or your

00:35:24.800 thinking has

00:35:25.400 been impacted

00:35:26.220 by us talking

00:35:27.520 about this so

00:35:28.260 much.

00:35:28.600 That really

00:35:28.920 means a lot

00:35:29.480 to me.

00:35:30.000 I am on

00:35:30.880 this journey

00:35:31.340 with you.

00:35:32.100 I didn't

00:35:32.560 think about

00:35:32.980 this either

00:35:33.460 a few years

00:35:34.040 ago.

00:35:34.660 It's not

00:35:34.900 like I'm

00:35:35.400 the first

00:35:35.740 person who

00:35:36.300 has been

00:35:36.680 championing

00:35:37.440 the conversation

00:35:38.200 about ethics

00:35:38.900 surrounding

00:35:39.380 reproductive

00:35:39.920 technology.

00:35:40.940 Not at

00:35:41.480 all.

00:35:42.660 There was

00:35:43.360 just a

00:35:43.700 spark inside

00:35:45.420 me a few

00:35:46.000 years ago

00:35:46.720 and I

00:35:47.700 decided,

00:35:48.460 wow,

00:35:48.900 this is not

00:35:49.440 being talked

00:35:50.000 about enough.

00:35:50.840 We need to

00:35:51.220 talk about

00:35:51.620 these children

00:35:52.240 too.

00:35:53.340 If we care

00:35:54.100 about life

00:35:54.860 from the

00:35:55.360 moment of

00:35:55.780 conception

00:35:56.220 onward,

00:35:56.960 we need to

00:35:57.520 care about

00:35:57.920 these children

00:35:58.440 too.

00:35:59.180 And as

00:35:59.500 always,

00:36:00.040 shout out

00:36:00.440 to Katie

00:36:00.820 Faust,

00:36:01.280 Jennifer

00:36:01.540 Lall,

00:36:02.120 and all

00:36:02.680 the other

00:36:03.000 people who

00:36:03.440 have been

00:36:03.740 doing this

00:36:04.200 work for

00:36:04.680 a very

00:36:05.160 long time.

00:36:17.560 Okay,

00:36:18.220 so I was

00:36:18.660 going to

00:36:18.920 talk about

00:36:19.580 maybe I'll

00:36:20.600 just like

00:36:21.000 very briefly

00:36:22.720 talk about

00:36:23.920 this

00:36:24.340 Claudine 0.95

00:36:24.920 gay thing 0.98

00:36:25.780 because I 0.92

00:36:26.280 actually want

00:36:26.740 to talk

00:36:26.980 about this

00:36:27.380 other story

00:36:27.980 a little bit

00:36:28.380 more that

00:36:28.920 is that

00:36:30.120 better ties

00:36:30.960 into everything

00:36:31.940 else that

00:36:32.360 we've been

00:36:32.680 talking about

00:36:33.340 but let

00:36:34.140 me just

00:36:34.440 mention this

00:36:35.020 because it's

00:36:35.500 in my notes

00:36:36.000 and everyone's

00:36:36.640 talking about

00:36:37.280 it.

00:36:37.580 So the

00:36:38.580 Harvard

00:36:39.000 president

00:36:39.940 Claudine

00:36:40.520 gay 1.00

00:36:40.960 she is 0.99

00:36:42.700 she is

00:36:43.780 in hot

00:36:44.260 water right

00:36:44.760 now because

00:36:45.300 she is being

00:36:46.180 accused of

00:36:46.760 plagiarism.

00:36:47.560 Christopher

00:36:47.880 Rufo,

00:36:48.700 a journalist

00:36:49.080 whom we've

00:36:49.600 had on

00:36:50.020 several times,

00:36:51.260 he has

00:36:52.800 uncovered

00:36:53.660 her plagiarism.

00:36:57.100 She's the 0.99

00:36:57.660 president of

00:36:58.280 Harvard that

00:36:58.780 you probably

00:36:59.580 just saw

00:37:00.200 give a

00:37:00.580 congressional

00:37:00.980 testimony

00:37:01.540 unable to

00:37:02.340 say whether

00:37:03.300 calling for

00:37:03.940 the genocide 0.99

00:37:04.500 of Jews

00:37:06.400 on campus

00:37:07.300 constitutes

00:37:07.880 as harassment.

00:37:09.080 This is

00:37:09.360 what all

00:37:09.880 of the

00:37:10.460 major

00:37:11.100 Ivy League

00:37:11.980 presidents

00:37:12.400 said who

00:37:13.100 were in

00:37:13.460 that congressional

00:37:14.120 hearing that

00:37:14.800 they can't

00:37:15.520 say whether

00:37:16.240 or not

00:37:16.920 that constitutes

00:37:18.180 as harassment.

00:37:18.920 Isn't that

00:37:19.260 insane?

00:37:20.060 It's insane.

00:37:20.720 It's just

00:37:20.980 because they're

00:37:21.480 scared of the

00:37:22.080 progressive activists

00:37:23.040 on campus.

00:37:24.220 They know the

00:37:24.760 answer to this

00:37:25.620 but on the

00:37:26.440 intersectional

00:37:27.260 totem pole

00:37:27.900 somehow like

00:37:29.400 Hamas is 0.99

00:37:30.540 higher than 0.99

00:37:32.360 Jews. 0.98

00:37:33.260 It's insane. 1.00

00:37:34.760 And so they

00:37:36.200 wouldn't say

00:37:36.800 whether that

00:37:37.280 constitutes as

00:37:37.920 harassment.

00:37:38.480 A lot of

00:37:38.780 people have

00:37:39.160 been calling

00:37:39.760 for the

00:37:40.200 resignation of

00:37:41.080 these presidents

00:37:41.720 including

00:37:42.380 Claudine Gay.

00:37:43.800 So she was

00:37:44.420 already in the

00:37:45.080 midst of

00:37:45.380 controversy.

00:37:46.320 Now she is

00:37:47.240 in the midst

00:37:47.560 of controversy

00:37:48.200 even more

00:37:49.600 so because

00:37:50.720 she plagiarized

00:37:52.780 several things

00:37:55.860 several things

00:37:57.740 over the

00:37:59.080 years.

00:37:59.940 So this

00:38:00.980 is what

00:38:01.980 Christopher

00:38:04.000 Ruffo

00:38:04.920 found.

00:38:05.960 He said

00:38:06.400 that I

00:38:06.940 have obtained

00:38:07.580 documentation

00:38:08.300 demonstrating

00:38:08.860 that Harvard

00:38:09.360 President

00:38:09.740 Claudine Gay

00:38:10.200 plagiarized

00:38:10.720 multiple

00:38:11.160 sections of

00:38:11.900 her PhD

00:38:12.380 thesis

00:38:12.800 violating

00:38:13.680 Harvard's

00:38:14.340 policies on

00:38:15.320 academic

00:38:15.980 integrity.

00:38:17.720 So he

00:38:18.920 gives an

00:38:19.340 example.

00:38:20.360 She lifted

00:38:21.040 an entire

00:38:21.640 paragraph

00:38:22.160 nearly verbatim

00:38:23.140 from a

00:38:23.460 paper by

00:38:24.500 Lawrence,

00:38:25.000 Bobo,

00:38:25.240 and Franklin

00:38:25.780 Gilliam

00:38:26.780 while passing

00:38:27.380 it off

00:38:27.980 as her

00:38:30.240 own.

00:38:31.500 And then

00:38:32.020 also he

00:38:33.480 said that

00:38:33.820 she repeats

00:38:34.400 this violation

00:38:35.020 of Harvard's

00:38:35.920 policy throughout

00:38:37.660 her document

00:38:38.800 again using

00:38:39.520 work from

00:38:40.040 Bobo and

00:38:40.500 Gilliam as

00:38:40.960 well as

00:38:41.220 passages from

00:38:42.020 Richard Shingle,

00:38:42.780 Susan Howell,

00:38:43.700 and Deborah

00:38:44.140 Fagum.

00:38:45.040 She reproduces 0.98

00:38:45.980 nearly verbatim

00:38:46.940 not giving her

00:38:48.100 any credit

00:38:49.000 at all.

00:38:49.980 She also

00:38:51.040 lifted material

00:38:52.040 from scholar

00:38:52.800 Carol Swain.

00:38:53.820 Carol Swain

00:38:54.400 is a

00:38:55.500 conservative

00:38:56.100 commentator

00:38:59.320 and author

00:39:00.120 and she

00:39:01.960 lifts her 0.95

00:39:02.760 material and

00:39:03.940 her writing

00:39:04.720 again without

00:39:05.440 giving Swain

00:39:06.440 any credit.

00:39:07.860 This is,

00:39:08.780 of course,

00:39:09.680 plagiarism.

00:39:11.140 And so

00:39:11.560 it's proven

00:39:12.740 right there

00:39:14.260 out in the

00:39:14.980 open.

00:39:15.980 She has

00:39:16.680 absolutely

00:39:17.440 no credentials

00:39:18.620 that have

00:39:20.200 earned her

00:39:20.940 this spot

00:39:21.440 as Harvard's

00:39:21.980 president except

00:39:22.540 that she

00:39:22.980 ticks the

00:39:23.500 intersectional

00:39:24.220 boxes as

00:39:25.540 a black 0.96

00:39:25.940 woman.

00:39:26.700 That's it.

00:39:28.320 She doesn't

00:39:29.360 have the

00:39:30.860 same resume

00:39:31.880 that previous

00:39:33.620 Ivy League

00:39:35.020 presidents have

00:39:35.840 had, but it's

00:39:36.800 more important

00:39:37.700 that they meet

00:39:38.780 their diversity

00:39:39.480 quota than they

00:39:40.340 have someone who

00:39:41.220 is actually

00:39:41.600 qualified for the

00:39:42.420 job.

00:39:42.680 And in fact,

00:39:43.020 she's actually

00:39:43.500 it's not just

00:39:44.100 that she's not

00:39:44.500 qualified.

00:39:44.960 She's actually

00:39:45.540 unqualified.

00:39:46.600 She should be

00:39:47.020 disqualified from

00:39:48.120 this position

00:39:48.700 based on her

00:39:49.780 plagiarism because

00:39:50.760 I guess she is

00:39:51.680 intellectually unable

00:39:52.860 to come up with

00:39:53.580 these thoughts

00:39:54.420 herself.

00:39:55.360 And yet Harvard

00:39:56.100 sent out a

00:39:58.240 memo reaffirming

00:40:00.200 their support

00:40:00.840 for her,

00:40:01.860 reaffirming

00:40:03.160 their support

00:40:03.700 for President

00:40:04.200 Gay's continued 1.00

00:40:04.880 leadership of

00:40:05.960 Harvard University.

00:40:07.440 Their extensive

00:40:08.060 deliberations,

00:40:09.100 they say,

00:40:09.440 affirm their

00:40:10.220 confidence that

00:40:10.980 President Gay is 0.58

00:40:11.460 the right leader

00:40:12.060 to help our

00:40:12.560 community heal

00:40:13.180 and to address

00:40:14.240 the very serious

00:40:15.220 societal issues

00:40:16.260 that we are

00:40:16.740 facing.

00:40:17.120 So this is

00:40:18.120 just a reminder.

00:40:19.060 We don't have

00:40:19.480 time to get

00:40:19.960 into all of

00:40:20.520 this,

00:40:20.780 but this is

00:40:21.200 just a reminder

00:40:21.940 that honestly

00:40:23.780 at this point,

00:40:25.140 I think having

00:40:26.620 an Ivy League

00:40:27.640 degree anytime

00:40:29.520 after,

00:40:30.500 I don't know,

00:40:31.520 2014,

00:40:32.660 I'll give that

00:40:33.140 the cutoff since

00:40:33.800 that was the

00:40:34.200 year I graduated.

00:40:35.300 I graduated

00:40:36.280 college,

00:40:37.100 not Ivy League,

00:40:38.020 but you know,

00:40:39.040 I think it

00:40:40.520 actually is a

00:40:42.080 point against

00:40:42.840 you.

00:40:43.300 I think it

00:40:43.800 actually works

00:40:45.460 against you if

00:40:46.700 you have a

00:40:47.200 degree from

00:40:47.780 one of these

00:40:48.280 universities because

00:40:49.260 I'm going to

00:40:50.260 assume that

00:40:51.360 you are just,

00:40:52.620 your brain is 1.00

00:40:53.100 infested with 1.00

00:40:54.680 worms,

00:40:55.360 with brain worms, 0.99

00:40:56.880 like that you 0.98

00:40:58.060 have a terrible

00:40:58.960 worldview and

00:40:59.800 that you might 1.00

00:41:00.260 actually be stupid 1.00

00:41:01.320 in some really, 1.00

00:41:02.280 really important

00:41:02.920 ways.

00:41:03.440 Like you probably,

00:41:04.940 probably don't have

00:41:06.120 a low IQ,

00:41:07.260 but I am actually

00:41:08.360 going to assume

00:41:10.320 that you are

00:41:13.040 unable to

00:41:14.840 discern truth

00:41:15.900 from a lie

00:41:16.680 if you graduated

00:41:17.620 from some of

00:41:18.260 these universities.

00:41:19.700 You would have

00:41:20.260 to prove to me

00:41:21.040 otherwise,

00:41:21.760 but gone are

00:41:22.320 the days,

00:41:22.820 I think,

00:41:23.820 where you're

00:41:24.320 able to say,

00:41:25.000 I went to

00:41:25.340 Harvard,

00:41:25.760 I went to

00:41:26.300 Yale,

00:41:27.160 and that it's

00:41:28.200 just assumed

00:41:29.060 that you are

00:41:30.140 actually smart.

00:41:31.480 It certainly

00:41:32.000 shouldn't be

00:41:32.540 assumed that

00:41:33.280 you're wise

00:41:34.400 in any way

00:41:35.180 or that you're

00:41:36.120 competent.

00:41:36.560 So that's

00:41:38.860 what's happening

00:41:39.920 is that these

00:41:40.760 presidents,

00:41:42.300 and honestly,

00:41:43.460 like the 0.94

00:41:43.900 ridiculous 0.57

00:41:45.580 diversity schemes 0.99

00:41:46.760 of these

00:41:47.600 universities,

00:41:48.120 are bringing

00:41:48.680 the universities

00:41:49.340 into disrepute.

00:41:50.580 I think America

00:41:51.300 is much better

00:41:51.860 off if we

00:41:52.540 regard these

00:41:53.160 Ivy League

00:41:53.680 universities

00:41:54.280 as just

00:41:55.460 centers for

00:41:57.020 communism

00:41:57.640 training,

00:41:58.460 rather than

00:41:59.960 centers of

00:42:02.740 serious

00:42:03.680 intellectual

00:42:04.940 challenges

00:42:05.720 debates

00:42:07.320 and

00:42:08.560 intellectual

00:42:09.100 formation.

00:42:10.640 So that's

00:42:11.000 what's happening.

00:42:11.660 That's what's

00:42:12.020 happening in

00:42:12.540 academia right

00:42:13.560 now,

00:42:14.340 which,

00:42:15.600 again,

00:42:16.040 it's pretty

00:42:16.740 sad,

00:42:17.180 but at the

00:42:17.520 same time,

00:42:18.120 maybe it

00:42:18.580 leads us

00:42:19.060 to a

00:42:19.360 better place

00:42:20.720 where we

00:42:21.120 just ignore

00:42:22.280 the track

00:42:23.100 altogether of

00:42:23.920 having to

00:42:24.380 go from

00:42:25.120 high school

00:42:26.200 to college

00:42:27.080 and trying

00:42:27.520 to get into

00:42:28.020 these Ivy 0.60

00:42:28.600 League

00:42:28.800 universities

00:42:29.340 and instead

00:42:30.720 pursue things

00:42:32.060 that actually

00:42:32.840 build character

00:42:33.700 and that

00:42:34.460 actually make

00:42:35.100 you smarter

00:42:35.680 and more

00:42:36.220 competent

00:42:36.740 and more

00:42:37.560 productive

00:42:38.100 and responsible

00:42:38.840 citizens.

00:42:39.520 That would

00:42:40.620 actually be

00:42:41.080 amazing if

00:42:41.840 instead of

00:42:42.520 sending our

00:42:43.540 kids to

00:42:45.040 these incubators

00:42:46.380 for progressivism,

00:42:47.900 that they could

00:42:48.620 actually go out

00:42:49.240 into the world

00:42:49.900 and learn real

00:42:51.300 life principles

00:42:52.080 and how the

00:42:52.560 world actually

00:42:53.000 works.

00:42:53.340 I think that

00:42:53.720 would make

00:42:54.040 them a lot

00:42:54.460 smarter and

00:42:55.060 of course

00:42:55.460 more conservative

00:42:56.220 because that's

00:42:56.940 how it goes.

00:42:58.060 All right,

00:42:58.580 enough depressing

00:42:59.360 stuff.

00:42:59.920 Let's take a

00:43:00.560 little bit of

00:43:01.520 a white pill,

00:43:02.560 if you will.

00:43:03.160 That means look

00:43:03.960 at something

00:43:04.360 that's positive,

00:43:05.180 something that

00:43:05.560 was surprisingly

00:43:06.440 positive to me

00:43:07.840 and this is a

00:43:09.460 rare The Cut

00:43:10.580 W, a rare W

00:43:12.520 for The Cut,

00:43:13.560 which is an

00:43:14.940 online outlet

00:43:15.760 that typically

00:43:16.560 leans progressive

00:43:17.280 as most do

00:43:18.500 and here is

00:43:20.000 the headline.

00:43:21.120 Don't let

00:43:21.740 climate anxiety

00:43:22.940 stop you

00:43:23.940 from having

00:43:24.400 kids.

00:43:25.040 What?

00:43:26.140 What?

00:43:27.260 Don't let

00:43:27.880 climate anxiety

00:43:28.580 stop you

00:43:29.080 from having

00:43:29.460 kids.

00:43:30.420 Game changer

00:43:31.100 for me.

00:43:31.740 I was so

00:43:32.180 scared of

00:43:32.720 global warming.

00:43:33.640 I was going

00:43:34.060 to stop it.

00:43:35.000 I don't know.

00:43:35.480 Kid number

00:43:35.860 seven.

00:43:36.300 Now I'm

00:43:36.560 going to keep

00:43:36.900 going.

00:43:38.120 And here's

00:43:39.160 the subheading.

00:43:40.160 The battle

00:43:40.440 to save the

00:43:40.900 planet shouldn't 0.99

00:43:41.600 be waged over

00:43:42.700 the bodies

00:43:43.480 of women.

00:43:45.400 Agree.

00:43:46.520 Agree.

00:43:47.000 Antinatalism

00:43:48.740 is a huge

00:43:50.600 movement right

00:43:51.420 now.

00:43:52.100 A huge

00:43:52.520 movement.

00:43:52.840 In fact,

00:43:53.300 if you look

00:43:53.880 at any

00:43:54.360 popular video

00:43:56.180 on Instagram,

00:43:58.060 something that's

00:43:59.040 gone viral

00:43:59.620 that's gotten

00:44:00.100 a lot of

00:44:00.540 traction and

00:44:02.160 it's about

00:44:02.980 kids or

00:44:03.920 about motherhood

00:44:04.920 or anything

00:44:05.460 like that,

00:44:06.040 if you look

00:44:06.480 at the

00:44:06.700 comments,

00:44:07.720 the comments

00:44:08.220 are all,

00:44:08.520 this is so

00:44:08.980 irresponsible.

00:44:09.840 This is so

00:44:10.280 terrible.

00:44:10.860 I'm so glad

00:44:11.360 I'm never

00:44:11.760 having kids.

00:44:12.660 This seems

00:44:13.040 awful.

00:44:13.520 I can't

00:44:13.760 believe you

00:44:14.100 have to go

00:44:14.460 through this

00:44:14.760 inconvenience.

00:44:15.420 I can't

00:44:15.680 believe that

00:44:16.040 you have to

00:44:16.360 wake up

00:44:16.680 early.

00:44:17.000 I can't

00:44:17.280 believe that

00:44:17.620 you have

00:44:17.800 to stay

00:44:18.060 up late.

00:44:18.600 I can't

00:44:18.980 believe that

00:44:19.480 you have

00:44:19.860 to do

00:44:20.500 blah,

00:44:20.880 blah,

00:44:21.080 blah,

00:44:21.320 blah,

00:44:21.520 blah.

00:44:21.740 All of

00:44:22.180 these

00:44:22.520 selfish, 1.00

00:44:24.020 vapid 0.99

00:44:24.460 people

00:44:25.000 commenting

00:44:25.980 on someone's

00:44:27.180 choice to

00:44:27.580 have

00:44:27.740 children.

00:44:28.960 That is

00:44:29.780 the growing

00:44:30.980 sentiment.

00:44:31.980 It's because

00:44:32.800 we're told

00:44:33.360 we need to

00:44:33.840 be scared

00:44:34.300 of climate

00:44:34.840 change.

00:44:35.500 It's because

00:44:35.860 we are told

00:44:36.500 that we need

00:44:36.920 to be scared

00:44:37.380 of the fall

00:44:37.760 of democracy

00:44:38.440 because of

00:44:38.960 scary 0.82

00:44:39.400 Christian 0.93

00:44:40.400 nationalism 0.76

00:44:41.360 fascism.

00:44:42.640 It's because

00:44:43.100 we're told

00:44:43.500 the most important

00:44:44.160 thing that you

00:44:44.640 can do is

00:44:45.160 love yourself

00:44:45.860 and be happy

00:44:46.680 and be

00:44:47.060 comfortable

00:44:47.500 and never

00:44:48.120 inconvenience

00:44:48.780 yourself.

00:44:49.200 It's because

00:44:49.780 we're told

00:44:50.180 being a

00:44:50.660 girl boss

00:44:51.420 is more

00:44:54.240 important and

00:44:54.840 more fulfilling

00:44:55.480 than having

00:44:56.860 children.

00:44:57.620 All kinds of

00:44:58.220 reasons.

00:44:58.680 I mean,

00:44:59.020 fundamentally,

00:44:59.600 it's godlessness.

00:45:00.800 It is the

00:45:01.580 created order,

00:45:02.440 the natural

00:45:02.820 order being

00:45:03.520 inverted.

00:45:04.780 That is

00:45:05.520 where really

00:45:06.780 the anti-natalist

00:45:09.320 movement is

00:45:09.840 coming from.

00:45:10.500 It's coming

00:45:11.040 from Satan

00:45:12.260 who hates

00:45:12.820 children and

00:45:14.620 hates the

00:45:15.080 family and

00:45:15.820 hates marriage.

00:45:16.920 That's where

00:45:17.340 it's coming

00:45:17.640 from.

00:45:18.140 That's where

00:45:18.400 these comments

00:45:18.820 are coming

00:45:19.100 from,

00:45:19.340 whether they

00:45:19.680 know it

00:45:19.940 or not.

00:45:20.400 And so

00:45:20.680 imagine my

00:45:21.800 shock when

00:45:22.680 I see a

00:45:23.460 headline like

00:45:23.960 this from

00:45:24.540 a generally

00:45:25.160 progressive

00:45:26.420 outlet.

00:45:27.240 OK, so

00:45:39.880 here's what

00:45:40.180 the article

00:45:40.500 says.

00:45:41.480 Anya

00:45:41.920 Kemenitz,

00:45:42.780 whose writing

00:45:43.120 focuses on

00:45:43.720 the climate

00:45:44.460 crisis and

00:45:45.600 how people

00:45:45.960 are responding,

00:45:46.740 says she had

00:45:47.080 coffee with a

00:45:47.620 friend in her

00:45:48.000 early 30s who

00:45:49.040 told her most

00:45:50.180 people her age

00:45:50.740 are resigned to

00:45:51.460 never have kids

00:45:52.180 because of the

00:45:53.340 climate.

00:45:54.200 And then she

00:45:54.720 says,

00:45:55.040 as a mother

00:45:55.460 of two,

00:45:55.840 I have to

00:45:56.060 confess that

00:45:56.460 when I

00:45:56.820 read pieces

00:45:57.620 arguing against

00:45:58.620 having children

00:45:59.240 for the sake

00:45:59.640 of the planet

00:46:00.160 or hear these

00:46:01.140 arguments,

00:46:01.860 it feels like a

00:46:02.540 slap in the

00:46:03.060 face. 1.00

00:46:03.540 I wanted to

00:46:03.980 ask my friend,

00:46:04.680 where does the

00:46:05.140 show of concern

00:46:05.640 leave my kids?

00:46:06.620 Not to mention

00:46:07.340 your nieces and

00:46:08.060 nephews and

00:46:08.660 the hundreds of

00:46:09.300 thousands of

00:46:09.800 children being

00:46:10.300 born into this

00:46:10.900 potential hellscape

00:46:11.780 every day.

00:46:12.780 You plan to

00:46:13.300 live out your

00:46:13.980 life carefree,

00:46:15.080 unbothered by

00:46:15.660 what happens to

00:46:16.280 the planet after

00:46:16.880 2060 because

00:46:17.800 none of your

00:46:18.380 DNA will be 0.98

00:46:19.780 left on it?

00:46:20.720 The author

00:46:21.020 expresses frustration

00:46:21.960 that the

00:46:22.340 conversations that

00:46:23.160 climate scientists

00:46:23.880 and activists have

00:46:24.760 are always about

00:46:25.420 whether to have

00:46:26.280 kids or arguing

00:46:27.080 to not have

00:46:27.840 them and never

00:46:28.680 around those

00:46:29.480 who have

00:46:31.000 already had

00:46:33.000 them.

00:46:33.620 The hard

00:46:34.020 truth is that

00:46:34.460 parent or no,

00:46:35.540 there is no

00:46:36.180 shirking your

00:46:36.680 responsibility to

00:46:37.640 build a better

00:46:39.000 future.

00:46:40.380 Here's her 0.95

00:46:40.840 response to

00:46:41.400 those questioning

00:46:41.960 whether to have

00:46:42.860 children because of

00:46:43.540 the climate.

00:46:44.000 Having kids is

00:46:44.540 both selfish and

00:46:45.940 self-sacrificing,

00:46:46.960 optimistic and

00:46:47.860 fatalistic because

00:46:48.880 children belong to

00:46:49.700 their parents and

00:46:50.580 to all of us.

00:46:51.440 no, my

00:46:53.460 children don't 0.99

00:46:53.860 belong to you

00:46:54.540 at all.

00:46:55.820 There is no

00:46:56.400 future without

00:46:57.160 them or for

00:46:58.800 anyone at all.

00:47:00.160 True.

00:47:00.900 Realizing you

00:47:01.520 can't guarantee

00:47:02.120 your kids a safe

00:47:03.000 and happy life is

00:47:04.100 the hardest truth

00:47:04.880 of becoming a

00:47:06.000 parent.

00:47:06.420 If you decide to

00:47:07.760 have a child,

00:47:08.440 you will see your

00:47:09.060 love for that

00:47:09.520 child is terrifyingly

00:47:10.600 vast, big enough

00:47:11.580 to hold the whole

00:47:12.280 planet.

00:47:12.820 True, girl.

00:47:13.960 And if you

00:47:14.420 decide not to

00:47:15.120 have a child, I

00:47:15.720 know your love

00:47:16.220 for this fragile

00:47:16.740 world will be no

00:47:18.220 less great and no

00:47:19.880 less painful.

00:47:21.360 I can predict

00:47:22.580 that this is

00:47:24.040 Anya's path to

00:47:26.180 being red-pilled.

00:47:27.800 What she will

00:47:28.700 realize, and I

00:47:29.740 hope and while it

00:47:31.180 seems like this

00:47:31.800 doesn't include her,

00:47:33.000 is that most

00:47:33.980 climate activists

00:47:34.840 are actually

00:47:35.560 anti-human.

00:47:37.400 Not just pro-

00:47:38.380 planet, but

00:47:39.040 anti-human.

00:47:40.380 Why don't they

00:47:40.920 address the people

00:47:41.880 who already have

00:47:42.780 kids?

00:47:43.280 Because a lot of

00:47:44.500 them, I'm not

00:47:45.080 saying all of

00:47:45.620 them, but a lot

00:47:46.040 of them hate

00:47:46.580 those kids.

00:47:47.760 They see humans

00:47:48.800 as a,

00:47:49.560 as people who

00:47:52.460 drain our

00:47:53.100 resources, as a

00:47:54.860 problem, as a

00:47:56.000 burden, and

00:47:56.600 actually they are

00:47:57.640 okay with

00:47:59.160 thinking of the

00:48:00.240 planet being

00:48:00.880 human-free, being

00:48:03.180 free of

00:48:03.740 civilization, free

00:48:05.440 of people to 0.99

00:48:06.380 suck resources. 1.00

00:48:07.300 There's like this 1.00

00:48:08.080 very romantic

00:48:08.880 vision of us

00:48:09.600 going back to

00:48:10.360 some tribal

00:48:11.040 time, this idea

00:48:12.440 that Native

00:48:13.740 Americans and

00:48:14.580 all indigenous

00:48:15.180 people, that

00:48:16.020 they had this

00:48:16.780 beautiful relationship

00:48:19.160 with nature and

00:48:19.860 with each other

00:48:20.380 and everything

00:48:20.820 was peaceful

00:48:21.760 and awesome

00:48:22.400 until the

00:48:23.140 mean white 0.92

00:48:23.780 man came 0.98

00:48:24.880 along and

00:48:25.580 civilized everything

00:48:26.740 and capitalism

00:48:27.780 and all that

00:48:28.780 stuff.

00:48:29.440 There is this

00:48:30.540 mentality that if

00:48:31.920 we just got rid

00:48:33.020 of all this, if

00:48:33.780 we just got rid 0.95

00:48:34.580 of humans, then

00:48:35.320 things would be

00:48:36.360 better.

00:48:37.100 That is what is

00:48:37.840 driving the

00:48:38.500 anti-natalist

00:48:39.960 movement.

00:48:40.760 And maybe Anya

00:48:41.380 doesn't realize

00:48:42.340 that, but that

00:48:43.460 is the ideology

00:48:44.860 that's underneath

00:48:45.620 it.

00:48:46.000 And I hope

00:48:46.960 that things

00:48:47.600 are beginning

00:48:49.700 to become

00:48:52.360 more clear

00:48:52.900 for her.

00:48:53.800 I hope that

00:48:54.380 she is starting

00:48:54.780 to open her

00:48:55.720 eyes to what

00:48:56.860 this movement

00:48:57.320 is.

00:48:57.900 People weren't

00:48:58.500 buying it, by

00:48:59.020 the way, in

00:49:00.580 the comments.

00:49:02.840 I mean, some

00:49:03.900 people are funny.

00:49:04.700 Who wrote

00:49:05.120 this?

00:49:05.500 Big child.

00:49:06.820 What they're

00:49:07.340 trying to say

00:49:07.900 is like, you

00:49:08.520 know, like big

00:49:10.180 government, big

00:49:11.100 corporations, big

00:49:12.060 tech, big

00:49:13.820 child, like some

00:49:15.020 kind of entity

00:49:15.820 that is pushing

00:49:17.660 propaganda.

00:49:20.660 So someone

00:49:22.020 also said

00:49:22.420 capitalism, scared

00:49:24.560 by the idea of

00:49:25.500 a dwindling

00:49:26.160 workforce.

00:49:27.100 A lot of

00:49:27.420 people are

00:49:27.760 accusing her

00:49:29.260 of saying, oh,

00:49:30.340 we just need

00:49:31.040 kids because of

00:49:31.860 capitalism.

00:49:34.420 Someone else

00:49:35.360 echoing that

00:49:36.360 sentiment, forget

00:49:37.080 about the

00:49:37.500 planet.

00:49:38.020 Who will

00:49:38.320 work the

00:49:38.700 minds if you

00:49:39.360 don't have

00:49:39.780 children?

00:49:41.260 Someone said,

00:49:41.740 is this

00:49:42.140 propaganda?

00:49:43.120 Someone else,

00:49:43.620 respectfully, shut 0.98

00:49:46.020 up. 0.99

00:49:47.100 Someone else,

00:49:48.160 let's be honest,

00:49:48.800 having kids is

00:49:49.360 not this big

00:49:49.980 selfless act that

00:49:51.100 you do for the

00:49:51.540 betterment of the

00:49:52.120 world as many

00:49:52.680 parents make it

00:49:53.360 out to be.

00:49:53.880 Parents are

00:49:54.180 building a

00:49:54.680 mini-me who

00:49:55.360 will propagate

00:49:55.980 their genetics,

00:49:56.860 beliefs, and

00:49:57.680 name into the

00:49:58.280 world and future.

00:49:59.000 It's inherently

00:49:59.820 self-centered.

00:50:02.240 Okay, you're

00:50:03.560 right.

00:50:04.400 You, person who

00:50:05.560 spends your entire

00:50:06.520 time consuming and

00:50:07.960 thinking about

00:50:08.740 yourself, you're

00:50:09.720 the selfless

00:50:10.340 one.

00:50:11.280 I'm not saying

00:50:12.080 that you have to

00:50:12.660 have children to

00:50:13.320 be compassionate

00:50:13.880 and selfless and

00:50:14.680 productive, but to

00:50:16.280 say that being a

00:50:17.920 parent is being

00:50:18.900 selfish is just

00:50:20.700 wrong.

00:50:21.600 It's just wrong.

00:50:22.460 It grows your

00:50:23.060 compassion and your

00:50:23.780 empathy and your

00:50:24.320 understanding and your

00:50:24.980 love and, yes, your

00:50:25.880 stake in the future

00:50:26.860 so much.

00:50:28.200 It helps you care

00:50:29.420 about the planet,

00:50:30.120 not in the same way

00:50:31.560 that climate activists

00:50:32.340 do, but it helps you

00:50:33.260 care about the future

00:50:34.200 because you have a

00:50:36.040 stake in it because

00:50:36.940 this person, these

00:50:37.980 people that you love

00:50:38.860 more than anything

00:50:39.880 else in the whole

00:50:40.720 universe are going to 0.94

00:50:41.640 be there.

00:50:42.520 So you care much

00:50:43.920 more than you do

00:50:45.720 if you are, if all

00:50:50.420 you can think about

00:50:51.220 is your own life and

00:50:52.400 your own comfort and

00:50:53.360 your own well-being.

00:50:54.620 So good job, the

00:50:55.940 cuts.

00:50:56.640 Keep going this

00:50:57.500 direction.

00:50:58.620 Become a pro-natalist 0.98

00:51:00.060 activist.

00:51:01.080 That's what we should

00:51:02.300 be.

00:51:03.020 But also caring about

00:51:04.660 how these children are

00:51:06.200 conceived and the

00:51:08.000 ethics surrounding that

00:51:09.080 and reproduction.

00:51:11.160 Pro-life, when it

00:51:13.200 comes to children,

00:51:15.000 unborn children,

00:51:16.000 encompasses more

00:51:17.200 than abortion. 0.99

00:51:18.500 I don't mean that in

00:51:19.160 the progressive sense

00:51:19.960 that it's got to

00:51:20.560 cover immigration and

00:51:21.860 justice issues and all

00:51:22.940 of this, but it is

00:51:24.260 all about the

00:51:25.040 dignity of children,

00:51:27.260 of unborn children,

00:51:28.020 and we have to care

00:51:30.020 about that and be

00:51:30.740 thoughtful about that.

00:51:32.580 All right.

00:51:33.700 That's all I've got

00:51:34.500 for today.

00:51:35.960 We will be back here

00:51:37.400 tomorrow with much

00:51:38.320 more.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - December 12, 2023

Ep 921 ｜ To the Texas Mom Suing to Abort Her Baby

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