On today's episode of Relatable, Allie gives an update on the case of the missing 14-year-old girl, Jennifer Kohlstad, and a response to some of her critics of the Alistair Beggs episode. President Biden has invited Kate Cox, the woman who traveled from Texas to get an abortion at 21 weeks pregnant, to the State of the Union, and we've got our analysis of that, as well as some other abortion propaganda. And, of course, we have an analysis of the Grammys.
00:00:00.000President Biden has invited Kate Cox, the woman who traveled from Texas to get an abortion at 21 weeks pregnant, to the State of the Union.
00:00:10.260We've got our analysis of that as well as some other abortion propaganda.
00:00:14.500I've also got a response to some of my critics of the Alistair Begg episode.
00:00:20.580And, of course, we've got an analysis of the Grammys at the end of this episode.
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00:00:42.440Hey, y'all. Welcome to Relatable. Happy Tuesday.
00:00:45.320Hope everyone is having a great week so far.
00:00:48.800All right. We've got a lot to talk about per usual.
00:00:52.660We'll see how much we can actually get to today.
00:00:55.500If we're able, we'll get to the Grammys last night and we will rely on our resident pop culture expert, Brie, to break it all down for us and tell us what went on.
00:01:08.380Before we get into the main subjects for today, I do have a couple updates.
00:01:12.540I guess one is a response and the other is an update.
00:01:16.240So I did want to update y'all on the Kohlstads.
00:01:18.400This is the couple that I had on last week.
00:01:20.740They're from Montana and the state effectively kidnapped their daughter in the name of gender affirmation.
00:01:28.620They were not okay with their daughter identifying as the opposite sex or going through with any sort of transition.
00:01:36.240And this became a problem for not only the hospital, but also the state of Montana.
00:01:43.080And if you want details on that, you can go back and listen to that conversation.
00:01:49.920As you heard in the interview, they are violating a gag order that has been placed on them by going on my podcast and other people's podcasts telling their story.
00:02:00.680Now, when I heard that in our conversation, I wasn't sure.
00:02:04.820I wasn't sure that they knew what they were getting into.
00:02:08.640But in talking to the journalist from Redux who originally reported on this story, they assured me that the Kohlstads knew absolutely what they were doing when they decided to violate that gag order.
00:02:22.880And for them, the reward outweighed the risk.
00:02:26.280The reward being people knowing about their story, people being able to protect themselves, people trying to support them any way they can so that they can be represented by a good attorney when it comes to this.
00:02:38.660But now it has been reported that they are actually facing arrest in the state of Montana.
00:02:44.940They have not been arrested yet, but they are facing arrest.
00:02:48.780They have been told that they are in trouble with the law because they have violated this gag order.
00:02:53.100Of course, they saw this consequence coming.
00:02:59.440We are going to be courageous and we're going to speak out about this.
00:03:03.680It is also being reported that the child, 14-year-old Jennifer, is potentially being transferred to Canada to live with her biological mother.
00:03:16.160Todd Kohlstad is Jennifer's biological dad.
00:04:14.740Another thing that I wanted to respond to is the criticism that I have gotten from some about the Alistair Begg podcast episode that I published last week.
00:04:27.840Now, I would say the vast majority of you agreed with my assessment, which, of course, is just a fallible assessment that is my perspective on it.
00:04:38.720But I believe, as best as I possibly could, was rooted in the Word of God.
00:04:43.420And I just want to respond to some of the things that were said.
00:04:46.660Because when I get criticism from fellow Christians or when I get feedback pushback from fellow believers, I do take it seriously.
00:04:55.300When you're in public or when you have a public platform, when you have something like a podcast, you have to be able to discern what is actually legitimate feedback from people who respect you and you respect and then pushback from people who are going to hate you and hate what you say no matter what.
00:05:15.980And so because there was some feedback coming from fellow believers, I just want you to know that I read some of your messages and your comments and I do take these things seriously.
00:05:25.980And I want to address some of the accusations that were simply not true.
00:05:30.620There were some accusations from people who said that I did not listen to the sermon, that I took his words out of context, that I said that he said things that he simply did not say or that I was canceling him.
00:05:41.980Or there were multiple things in that vein that were said, not just about me, but also about other critics of Alistair Beck.
00:05:51.980I did absolutely listen to the entire sermon.
00:05:56.020And of course, he is someone who I believe handles the Word extremely well, extremely responsibly, in a very compelling way.
00:06:04.400As I said in that episode, I respect him a lot, have appreciated and have grown from the material that he has published.
00:06:11.980I think that he is an excellent expositor.
00:06:15.580And so, of course, I enjoyed aspects of his sermon.
00:06:18.540It's not that I thought the entirety of the sermon was bad or unbiblical.
00:06:22.540But my paraphrasing and my summation and analysis of his sermon, even if you disagree with it, was absolutely representative of not only what was explicitly said, but also what was implicitly said.
00:06:40.020And that's not me trying to judge his heart or to read his mind, but he absolutely was using the parable of the prodigal son and pointing to the Pharisees to paint those who opposed him on this as being pharisaical, as being judgmental.
00:07:00.300That is what was happening in the sermon.
00:07:03.360Now, for those of you who say, look, he was not saying that Christians should attend same-sex weddings.
00:07:11.660He said that this was a particular instance with a specific situation in which he gave one woman the advice to attend a same-sex wedding to try to preserve the relationship and maybe evangelistic opportunities with her unbelieving grandchild.
00:07:30.080Look, if that were the case, if it really were just specific, if he did not mean for it to be applicable to people in general, then I don't think that he would have publicized that advice on a podcast episode.
00:07:45.500And he did not say in that podcast episode, nor did he say in his sermon that, look, this is a rare exception to the rule.
00:07:53.400He did not say, typically I would say, no, don't attend a same-sex wedding.
00:07:57.740He said, look, this is the advice that I'm giving.
00:08:02.260And although he did caveat it to say, this is just a specific situation, he never outlined what the rule is.
00:08:09.600He never outlined what his general advice would be.
00:08:12.720He decided to take that, I guess, a private conversation in which he was talking to a specific woman and then publicize it for the general audience in a podcast.
00:08:21.360So I think it is extremely reasonable for someone to say, it sounds like you are giving people that advice.
00:08:29.080If they have a relationship with an unbeliever who is gay, that they should attend that wedding, that ceremony and give them a gift.
00:08:38.000And then other people saying that I didn't understand his message.
00:08:45.760I'm not questioning anyone's salvation.
00:08:48.260I hope that you wouldn't impugn my motives.
00:08:50.940But my take is that Alistair Begg, as wise as he is, much wiser than me, I'm sure, that he is confusing Jesus's willingness to congregate with sinners in the hopes that they will repent with attending a ceremony that explicitly celebrates sin.
00:09:17.520So a ceremony is different than congregating with sinners.
00:09:22.360You're not talking about just going to a person's birthday party.
00:09:26.280You are talking about going to an event that explicitly celebrates what God calls an abomination, what God calls destructive for someone's heart and soul and mind and body.
00:09:40.520But I don't think there is ever a reason, whether it's specific advice or general advice, for a Christian to encourage another Christian to do that.
00:09:50.780And wow, I've gotten a lot of messages from you guys who disagreed with Alistair Begg.
00:09:55.580And so you aligned with my and others' assessment of what he said.
00:10:01.300And y'all are making such good points.
00:10:03.600I got one message from one of you who said, you know, people like Andy Stanley or Alistair Begg, and I'm not saying they're similar, but when it comes to this particular subject, there are some similarities.
00:10:14.420They assume that there is like mutual respect in these kinds of relationships where you've got a believer and then an unbeliever who is gay.
00:10:22.200And what this person was telling me about her experience is that she felt like she had to jump through hoops to ensure that this gay non-believer in her life felt affirmed and felt celebrated and felt loved and that everything became a test.
00:10:44.060Someone who demands your attendance at their wedding, knowing that you do not agree with their choice and with their relationship, one is not loving you and does not mutually respect you and certainly is not being loving towards you.
00:11:02.240And sure, maybe we expect that from a non-believer, but the assumption that that non-believer will see you sitting there in the crowd and say, wow, I see the love of Jesus in that person.
00:11:14.840Wow, that person is not really a bigot.
00:11:18.860I don't think that that is a realistic perspective of what would go on.
00:11:23.880If anything, that person might look into the crowd and see the attendance of his believing grandmother and say, finally, she approves of me.
00:11:30.480The godliest person I know, the most Christian person I know, the person who goes to church the most, even she is here at my wedding.
00:12:52.240And if you guys didn't see, Alistair Begg has been disinvited from the Shepherds Conference, which is hosted by John MacArthur and his church.
00:12:58.940I don't know what happened behind the scenes, but I would bet that John MacArthur probably had a conversation with Alistair Begg.
00:13:06.260I'm sure it was a very respectful conversation.
00:13:08.600I'm sure, like other entities and individuals have, that he tried to sway him of his position, which John MacArthur's position would be to not attend this wedding.
00:13:23.640So I don't think that anyone is happy about this, certainly.
00:13:30.760And the disagreements that I've seen have been very respectful.
00:13:34.840And I'm a little disheartened, too, by those who attend his church who are so offended by and taken aback by the criticism and the godly and biblical critiques that he has received.
00:14:48.120Also, I was thinking I might make a video about this on Instagram, but this is a great conversation start, like a great gospel conversation starter.
00:15:14.580If we were enough the way that we are, if we were perfect the way that we are, we wouldn't constantly be vying for other people to tell us so.
00:15:25.460Isn't that interesting how that cycle continues and how people make money off of that?
00:15:31.340The people telling you that you're enough and you're perfect the way that you are, they don't know you at all.
00:16:09.740Everyone is looking for a form of salvation and redemption and fulfillment and satisfaction.
00:16:14.820And of course, we believe, we know that that can only come from Christ.
00:16:20.680That can only come from the God who made you.
00:16:23.260The self can't be both the problem and the solution.
00:16:26.020And just to like, I have to, just because it fits in really well, I have to hawk my book because this is what we talk about in this little pink book.
00:16:34.280You're not enough and that's okay, escaping the toxic culture of self-love.
00:16:37.440You're not enough for yourself and self-love won't save you, but Jesus will.
00:16:42.780So get yourself a shirt, start a gospel conversation, or get yourself a sticker that might work too.
00:16:47.200Put it on your computer and then you can talk to people about what actually saves and satisfies.
00:16:52.460All right, I want to get into this next story.
00:16:56.340And this is the invitation of Kate Cox to the State of the Union address.
00:17:02.840So the good Dr. Jill Biden, our first lady, has invited Kate Cox to attend the State of the Union.
00:17:10.180Of course, presidents invite people to attend the State of the Union that they're using to make some kind of point
00:17:16.840and to compel people to a particular position, to either show people, look how terrible the Democrats are,
00:17:24.160or to show people, look how great my administration is or my party is.
00:17:29.780Like, for example, a Republican might bring what's referred to as an angel mom to the State of the Union.
00:17:36.680That would be a mom whose child died at the hands of an illegal immigrant.
00:17:42.200And so Kate Cox has been invited to make the point that pro-life laws are so terrible and draconian.
00:17:52.240And you may remember, or you may not, we talked about her on this podcast, who Kate Cox is.
00:17:58.500She is a mother from Texas who was prohibited by Texas' abortion laws from getting an abortion in the second trimester, around 21 weeks.
00:18:46.280And of course, at this stage in pregnancy, an abortion requires the dismemberment of the child, the poisoning of the child, typically injecting a poison into the heart of the child to bring the baby into cardiac arrest, and then dismembering the child and removing her from her mother's womb.
00:19:07.020So very grotesque, very barbaric, and Texas rightly says, sorry, you can't do that to a child just because this child may or may not live very long after birth.
00:19:19.680Sorry, you can't abort a child just because that child has special needs.
00:19:24.400Now, she found some lawyers to say, who then found some quote-unquote experts to say that her fertility is at risk because of this, and therefore she needs an abortion to preserve her fertility.
00:19:39.680However, we debunked that, that's easily debunked, not just by me, but by OBGYNs and other experts in the field who will tell you that an abortion is never necessary to preserve your fertility.
00:19:58.740Either way, the baby is going to come out, right?
00:20:01.420Either way, the baby is going to come out, either through abortion, dismemberment, or through delivery.
00:20:08.780And we as pro-lifers, because we know that these babies are human beings and they're made in the image of God, we have this radical position that all humans are entitled to human rights.
00:20:20.200The foremost of which is the right to life, the right to not be murdered.
00:20:43.780You guys watched it from the organization Able Speaks, who told us their story and the stories of so many other families who have had babies with Trisomy 18 and other fatal diagnoses.
00:20:56.480And the beautiful, redemptive opportunity in giving birth to those children and giving them every opportunity to feel loved, to be held, to be cherished, to be known.
00:21:08.180And then to give that child a proper burial rather than discarding the baby as medical waste.
00:21:19.440And absolutely, the law should have a say there.
00:21:25.100And I will just note, because I don't think I completed this thought on the idea that her fertility was being impaired.
00:21:33.060Well, first of all, if the health of the mother, we're talking like life or death, health of the mother, is actually being harmed by the pregnancy, then abortion actually is allowed in the state of Texas.
00:21:51.780But her life was not actually at risk.
00:21:55.100The reason that she said, and this is in the court documents, that, OK, my life or my health is at risk here and I might impair my fertility is because she apparently, from what I have read, she has two children.
00:22:11.620She had two C-sections and she didn't want a third C-section to have this child with special needs.
00:22:19.960And she also did not want to be induced to have a vaginal birth with this child.
00:22:24.600And I understand as someone who had two C-sections, why?
00:22:28.720I understand you don't want a third C-section because with every C-section, there is an increase of risk.
00:22:34.960And with induction, if you have a VBAC, which is a vaginal birth after a cesarean, there are some, it's very, very slight, but some increased risks of uterine rupture.
00:22:46.900But look, you're also going to have risks when it comes to an abortion because, again, the baby has to come out.
00:22:53.660I would say even greater risks probably come with that.
00:22:57.160But no matter what, it's not right to murder this child.
00:23:00.480People have three C-sections all the time.
00:23:02.140People even get induced after two C-sections all the time.
00:23:06.920So I understand as someone who had two C-sections and then I had a VBAC, I understand the risks, but they are greatly exaggerating those risks to try to justify her having an abortion.
00:23:18.700And she did have an abortion, by the way.
00:23:20.300She traveled to another state so that she could have an abortion so that she could murder her child.
00:23:27.880She was so desperate to do that that she traveled to another state because Texas wouldn't allow her to murder her child.
00:23:35.600And this is who the Biden administration, you know, devout Catholic Joe Biden, this is who they are hoisting up as some kind of hero.
00:23:44.000So Corinne Jean-Pierre, she is the White House spokesperson, press secretary.
00:23:51.020She said on Saturday, the president and the first lady spoke to Kate Cox, who was forced to go to court to seek permission for the care she needed.
00:23:57.860Oh, dystopian nonsense for a non-viable pregnancy.
00:25:08.360Courage is having a child, loving that child, birthing that child, delivering that child, holding that child to your chest, naming that child, burying that child, even though you know it's going to be tough.
00:25:17.500And people say, oh, you would allow that child to suffer after birth.
00:25:30.560When their limbs are being twisted, when the abortion needle goes through their mom's abdomen, into the uterus and into their heart, using the same lethal combination that is used in the execution of murderers.
00:25:44.660That's what happens in an abortion at this stage in pregnancy.
00:25:50.460And we're applauding her, apparently, because she's some kind of hero.
00:25:54.800Just remember what is actually being talked about here.
00:25:57.460And the reason they're choosing her is because they know that this has the ability to win over some independents, some moderates, even maybe some Republicans, because she is she's a white suburban mom.
00:26:13.540And she wanted her child, kind of, and she already had two, you know, she already has two other two other children.
00:26:24.040And so they see her as someone who can soften the hearts of pro-lifers so that they can see themselves in her and say, yeah, you know, this might be the exception.
00:26:35.720And Republicans really are too extreme when it comes to saving the lives of babies.
00:26:39.640So that's why she's being hoisted up as a hero.
00:26:41.900Now, I'm not saying we can't have compassion for the pain that I'm sure she felt.
00:26:46.840Getting that diagnosis at 20 weeks or whenever she realized that her baby had trisomy 18, that probably, I bet that was really hard for her.
00:26:55.700I don't think this was an easy decision for her.
00:26:58.660I don't think that she's completely calloused and that she didn't love her child.
00:27:01.780I'm sure she did think that she was doing the right thing so we can have compassion for the pain I am sure she endured when she realized that all of her hopes and dreams that she had for her child would not come to fruition.
00:27:12.900That does not justify at all her murdering her child.
00:29:48.760We all have our biases that we're bringing to the table.
00:29:51.720So, when we see this kind of word salad and it seems to confirm what we want to be true, we just say, oh, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.
00:30:55.480He said that nearly 520,000 rapes were associated with 64,565 pregnancies across 14 states, most of which have no exceptions that allow for terminations of pregnancies.
00:31:09.340There's that propaganda language again that occurred as a result of rape.
00:31:15.100So, okay, first of all, I'm very concerned if this is the number of rapes that are really happening, maybe we should pay more attention to that.
00:31:27.580Maybe we should be asking ourselves, why are there that many rapes?
00:31:58.560However, this is what's important to note.
00:32:01.860So, they say 64,565 pregnancies across 14 states from 520,000 rapes.
00:32:10.240However, note, these are not reported pregnancy numbers.
00:32:15.900The authors analyzed survey and crime report data from the Centers of Disease Control and Prevention, the FBI, and the Bureau of Justice Statistics.
00:32:22.600They estimated the numbers of girls and women aged 15 to 45 who had survived rape that could result in pregnancy in each state after the bans took effect,
00:32:35.080then applied estimates of the pregnancy rate from rape.
00:32:40.240Oh, oh, so these are not, this is not a real count.
00:32:47.200We are estimating all of this based on a lot of different data in these particular states that have abortion bans to try to put this word salad together that looks compelling for people who just want to believe this lie,
00:33:34.240Because to our knowledge, no recent reliable state-level data on completed vaginal rapes, forced and or drug-slash-alcohol-facilitated vaginal penetration are available,
00:33:43.320we analyzed multiple data sources to estimate reported and unreported rapes in states with total abortion bans.
00:33:52.440As shown in the table below from the study, the data source that gave the number of rapes used a broader definition than the other two sources.
00:34:01.200So, this includes rape incidents that occurred when you were unable to consent to sex or stop it from happening because you were too drunk, high-drugged, or passed out from alcohol or drugs.
00:34:15.000However, they don't know the numbers of that.
00:34:17.160They don't know the pregnancies that actually resulted from that.
00:34:20.500We don't know how many of those people actually gave birth to those babies, if they did have abortions, or if any of those people actually got pregnant.
00:34:45.840We all see something that confirms our priors, and we buy into it without digging into something and without stopping like we should and really assessing and really looking for the facts.
00:34:56.940We've all done it because we are fallible human beings.