Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - February 21, 2024


Ep 955 ｜ The End of IVF in Alabama？


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56 minutes

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592

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00:00:00.000 The Alabama Supreme Court just ruled that embryos in or outside the womb are human children
00:00:07.100 entitled to human rights.
00:00:09.540 What are the implications of this ruling for practices like IVF?
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00:03:04.400 A ton of you have been messaging me about this Alabama ruling and asking me what I think about it.
00:03:10.500 The Alabama Supreme Court ruled that frozen, unimplanted embryos qualify as human children.
00:03:19.940 Obviously, this has many implications for things like in vitro fertilization.
00:03:25.880 IVF is probably one of the most controversial topics that I discuss and have been discussing since either 2019 or 2020.
00:03:37.040 So obviously, there have been a lot of thinkers and commentators who have been discussing this for a lot longer than I have for decades and decades.
00:03:47.240 Really, since the inception of IVF, you've had a lot of Christian and Catholic thinkers discussing some of the ethical issues with IVF.
00:03:57.900 However, it hasn't really been a central conversation in evangelicalism.
00:04:04.380 And I think a lot of it has to do with just kind of our lack of cohesive theology of the body.
00:04:14.120 I think we've kind of got down what we think about sex versus sex outside of marriage, gender, sometimes gender roles.
00:04:21.400 There's disagreement on that.
00:04:24.300 Sex, sexuality, things like that.
00:04:26.620 But when it comes to IVF, when it comes to surrogacy, when it comes to reproductive technology, I found that many evangelicals, and yes, many Catholics too, but since I'm surrounded by so many evangelicals, I just see a lot of thoughtlessness when it comes to these subjects.
00:04:44.240 And it's kind of just the mentality of, well, I'm pro-life, and so I'm pro-baby, and I think any method or means that we employ to create life is good.
00:04:57.520 And really, there hasn't been a whole lot of consideration of how the life is created, if it's moral, if it's ethical, to use in vitro fertilization and then to put embryos on ice.
00:05:11.100 And there's really a disconnect because we as pro-lifers say life is life at conception, made in the image of God, made with purpose and with dignity.
00:05:22.440 And just like any other human, that tiny human at the earliest stages of development is entitled to human rights, the foremost being the right to life, the right to not be murdered, mistreated, abused.
00:05:35.420 And we don't then have that same mentality, though, when it comes to embryos, when it comes to these unimplanted human beings that are still made in the image of God.
00:05:50.620 And yet, through IVF, or very often left in a freezer, sometimes indefinitely, very often they are discarded because the parents have decided they've had all the kids that they want, or sometimes there's a divorce.
00:06:04.100 And so the parents don't want the embryos that they have extracted and created and frozen, or sometimes, actually very often, I would say, in the vast majority of the cases of IVF, there is a eugenics process that goes into it.
00:06:22.860 And the scientists, the scientists, the doctors, can test these embryos to see if they have any kind of genetic disorder or some kind of special need.
00:06:32.780 Of course, they can test whether the embryo is a boy or a girl, and then parents can make the decision based on those findings, which embryos they want to kill, discard, which embryos they want to implant, or which embryos they want to surrender,
00:06:50.940 which embryos they want to pay to stay in a freezer for years and years.
00:06:55.240 And my basic take is that that's no way to treat a child.
00:06:58.840 Like, that's no way to treat a human being.
00:07:00.740 If we believe, as Christian pro-lifers, that these humans are made in the image of God, and therefore they have dignity, they have innate worth, and therefore they are entitled to human rights,
00:07:13.980 then we shouldn't be treating these little human beings like this.
00:07:17.660 Just because an adult wants to be a parent, just because they may have gone through a very difficult fertility and pregnancy process,
00:07:28.860 which we can have a lot of compassion for, these things don't justify treating human beings like this.
00:07:35.560 And I understand there are different methods, well, not really different methods of IVF, but there are different scenarios.
00:07:41.780 There are some scenarios in which the parents implant all the embryos that have been created.
00:07:49.500 And of course, I think that is a much, much better and more ethical option than creating a ton of embryos, which is what most people do.
00:07:58.940 Like Paris Hilton, I think, has, she said, like has 20 embryos on ice.
00:08:02.880 She's obviously not going to implant all of those embryos.
00:08:05.840 So I think it's much better to only create as many embryos as you are willing to implant and have.
00:08:12.000 But the implantation process is very risky for the embryo as well.
00:08:19.160 I mean, there are many cases when, unfortunately, the embryo thaws before it has been implanted, and so the embryo dies.
00:08:27.800 And so even in those cases, we are asking these little human beings to take a big risk in that implantation and freezing and implantation process to satisfy our own wants as adults.
00:08:44.700 And I think that is simply disordered.
00:08:46.660 And I do think it's unethical.
00:08:48.400 That doesn't mean that your children created through IVF don't have value and dignity.
00:08:53.160 Of course they do.
00:08:54.080 They're made in the image of God.
00:08:55.200 And I know you love them so much.
00:08:56.780 And they're precious children, of course.
00:08:59.340 But that does not mean the IVF process is something that we should advocate for or support as Christians.
00:09:07.340 So that's basically where I stand, just to give a summary of my stance on IVF.
00:09:15.180 And so, as you can probably imagine, I support the reasoning in this Alabama Supreme Court ruling that said these unimplanted embryos qualify as human children.
00:09:27.440 And so they have rights like human children.
00:09:30.040 So we'll get into exactly what the ruling says and what that means in just a second.
00:09:45.180 All right.
00:09:47.220 This summary of this ruling is via World Magazine and also the Alabama Reflector.
00:09:54.180 So the Alabama case emerged from an incident in 2020 in which embryos from three couples were apparently destroyed when an unauthorized person gained access to the embryos stored by the Center for Reproductive Medicine in Mobile, Alabama.
00:10:08.900 That's another thing here is that, like, as your children are in this freezer, in this lab, they are being supervised by people who don't know or love them.
00:10:21.800 And very often they care for them just fine.
00:10:24.640 But sometimes they don't.
00:10:25.780 And this is this accident or this this mistreatment of these embryos is not unique.
00:10:34.100 This actually happens, unfortunately, across the country.
00:10:37.220 So this person caused the embryos produced by the three couples to be destroyed.
00:10:41.660 The couples filed a lawsuit and a lower court found that Alabama's wrongful death of a minor act didn't apply to a human embryo located outside of a mother's womb.
00:10:52.880 But the couples, obviously devastated by this, they appealed to the state Supreme Court.
00:10:58.060 And just days ago, that court handed down a decisive eight to one ruling.
00:11:02.660 Wow.
00:11:03.200 Declaring that unborn children are children without exception based on developmental stage, physical location or any other ancillary characteristics.
00:11:13.940 Now, this is obviously true.
00:11:16.880 It's scientifically true.
00:11:18.460 It's also logically true.
00:11:20.520 If you're saying that a baby inside the womb or a baby outside of the womb, an embryo, we know that it's a human being.
00:11:27.860 Scientifically, it's a human being.
00:11:29.220 It can't be anything else.
00:11:30.800 If it's not a human, what is it?
00:11:32.520 It's a human being.
00:11:33.360 It's alive, obviously, because you can kill him or her.
00:11:37.780 You wouldn't be able to kill him or her if this embryo wasn't alive.
00:11:42.360 So we know that it is a living human.
00:11:44.880 And if you say for some reason that that living human does not deserve rights, you have to give a reason why.
00:11:51.860 Is it because of location in or outside of the mother's womb?
00:11:55.360 Is it because of size?
00:11:57.220 Is it because of age?
00:12:00.380 Is it because of stage of development?
00:12:02.480 Is it because of sentience?
00:12:03.960 Okay, well, you can apply any of those factors to people outside of the womb and tell me, do any of those factors justify killing a person?
00:12:13.580 Like a toddler is smaller and less developed than a teenager is.
00:12:18.180 Does that toddler have fewer rights than the teenager because of those things?
00:12:21.920 So you get the logic here.
00:12:23.360 The Alabama Supreme Court is just carrying that sound logic into a case about embryos.
00:12:31.160 In a majority opinion, Justice J. Mitchell wrote that there was no exception for frozen embryos under an 1872 law allowing civil lawsuits for the wrongful death of children or under a 2018 state constitutional amendment amendment that required the state to, quote, ensure the protection of the rights of the unborn child.
00:12:51.980 The upshot here is that the phrase minor child means the same thing in the wrongful death of a minor act as it does in everyday life, in everyday language.
00:13:02.740 An unborn or recently born individual member of the human species from fertilization until the age of majority.
00:13:11.080 Nothing about this act narrows that definition to unborn children who are physically in utero.
00:13:17.060 Instead, the act provides a cause of action for the death of any minor child without exception or limitation.
00:13:25.040 You know, I see sometimes people say, well, babies inside the womb aren't children or embryos aren't children.
00:13:30.700 It's an embryo.
00:13:31.540 It's a zygote.
00:13:32.320 It's a fetus.
00:13:33.580 Look, these are all just different words for a stage of development in a child's life.
00:13:40.040 It's like using infant or newborn instead of baby.
00:13:44.340 Like they're both accurate.
00:13:46.000 They're just different words for the same thing.
00:13:49.160 A baby at nine months is a baby, but a baby at zero months at, you know, five days is both a newborn and a baby.
00:13:57.220 So, yes, a baby inside the womb, an embryo, is still a child, is still a baby.
00:14:01.480 It's just a baby or a child at the earliest stage of development.
00:14:05.620 Chief Justice Tom Parker, concurring with the opinion, wrote that even before birth,
00:14:10.540 all human beings bear the image of God and their lives cannot be destroyed without effacing his glory,
00:14:16.660 which he argued was set in policy when Alabama voters approved the 2018 amendment.
00:14:21.600 And I know I can hear the screeches now.
00:14:24.540 Separation of church and state.
00:14:26.760 Well, this has nothing to do with the separation of church and state.
00:14:30.080 If you understand where the principle, where the idea of separation of church and state came from,
00:14:37.380 it really was more about protecting the church from the predation of the state than the other way around.
00:14:42.620 And, yes, we cannot, the state cannot establish a religion, but that does not separate,
00:14:52.320 the separation of church and state does not separate God and law.
00:14:56.480 You cannot separate God and law, really.
00:14:59.300 Now, atheists and people of different beliefs may disagree with that, but that's just true.
00:15:04.840 You can't separate God and law because you can't separate God and morality,
00:15:09.260 and you can't separate morality from law.
00:15:11.380 Every law is legislating morality in some way,
00:15:15.860 and morality has to come from one source of truth or else it's not morality,
00:15:19.780 and one source of truth has to come from a supreme being that transcends all earthly authority.
00:15:26.720 And that is God.
00:15:27.640 That is the creator.
00:15:28.740 That is why in the Declaration of Independence,
00:15:31.280 we were endowed by our creator with certain inalienable rights.
00:15:36.200 The Constitution, the American concept of rights,
00:15:40.520 is based on biblical principles.
00:15:43.880 That's not a theocracy where people are all forced to be a Christian or are all forced to say the same things about God.
00:15:52.700 You have to, again, you have to base your morality, your laws on something.
00:15:57.000 And we base ours, of course, there's a long history there of where the Constitution comes from,
00:16:04.780 going back to the Magna Carta, but really going back further than that,
00:16:08.480 all the way to the law giving to Israel.
00:16:11.600 These principles, you have a right to property, for example.
00:16:16.360 We see that in the Ten Commandments.
00:16:18.020 Thou shall not steal.
00:16:19.280 Thou shall not covet.
00:16:20.800 A right not to be murdered.
00:16:22.220 These are all based on the Christian God's commands to do certain things and against other things.
00:16:33.000 And the founders would have acknowledged that.
00:16:35.060 And the founders of the states would have acknowledged that, too.
00:16:38.260 The founders of our country did not separate God and law,
00:16:41.520 even as they did try to make distinctions, and I think rightfully so,
00:16:46.340 between certain churches and the state.
00:16:49.320 Again, mostly for the protection of the church,
00:16:51.840 but also protecting people against the establishment of a particular national church.
00:16:59.600 And obviously the history that the founders were fleeing from informed their desire to make sure that that separation was there in the beginning.
00:17:13.380 And it still is.
00:17:14.580 But, again, you cannot separate God, the giver of all truth, and the arbiter of morality, from our law giving.
00:17:23.680 And I think the Alabama Supreme Court understands that, so I have no problem with him citing God and citing the Bible.
00:17:31.400 Here are a few highlights from Chief Justice Tom Parker's majority opinion.
00:17:35.860 From page 37 to 38,
00:17:38.900 In summary, the theologically-based view of the sanctity of life adopted by the people of Alabama encompasses the following.
00:17:45.800 One, God made every person in his image.
00:17:47.860 Two, each person, therefore, has a value that far exceeds the ability of human beings to calculate.
00:17:53.100 And three, human life cannot be wrongfully destroyed without incurring the wrath of a holy God who views the destruction of his image as an affront to himself.
00:18:02.040 Okay, I love this.
00:18:04.060 I love this.
00:18:06.580 So good job, Chief Justice Tom Parker.
00:18:09.760 And I know people are going to say,
00:18:11.320 Oh my gosh, this is Christian nationalism, as if you're even able to define that.
00:18:17.560 But he's absolutely right.
00:18:19.820 And I know a lot of people, I think even pro-lifers, will have a hard time with this because they'll say,
00:18:24.620 Well, you should try to just argue things from a secular perspective.
00:18:28.080 You should try to argue things just scientifically.
00:18:31.420 But it doesn't really work like that.
00:18:34.060 Like, we can try to do that.
00:18:36.320 But at the end of the day, we do believe that it's wrong to kill a person because they're made in the image of God.
00:18:42.400 And someone who is godless might say something is wrong just because it's wrong, but they don't really have a good basis for it.
00:18:51.160 We believe something is wrong because it is biblically wrong.
00:18:55.580 We believe that the authority over all things tells us it's wrong.
00:19:00.040 And he has the ability to do that because he created us.
00:19:03.580 So really, all arguments for the sanctity of life fall short if you're only using science and logic.
00:19:12.800 That doesn't tell you why a human life is valuable.
00:19:16.720 Really, only God can do that.
00:19:18.640 So again, I completely support this reasoning.
00:19:22.000 So here's what the ruling says specifically on the impact to the IVF industry.
00:19:29.380 Although it is for the legislature, so the Alabama state legislature, to decide how to address this issue,
00:19:35.020 I note briefly that many other westernized countries have adopted IVF practices or regulations that allow IVF to continue while drastically reducing the chances of embryos being killed.
00:19:45.480 And that's true.
00:19:46.260 Even the most progressive nations like Canada and many countries in Europe have way stricter laws when it comes to reproductive technology than America does.
00:19:56.060 America is truly the wild, wild west when it comes to reproductive technology.
00:20:02.660 And I don't mean that in a good way.
00:20:04.920 Obviously, I mean that in a very immoral, unethical, and frightening way.
00:20:08.640 It's also extremely liberal when it comes to abortion compared to a lot of European countries.
00:20:14.340 People just don't seem to understand that.
00:20:17.160 The ruling goes on to say,
00:20:18.300 For decades, IVF has been largely unregulated in the United States, with some commentators even comparing it to the wild west.
00:20:25.740 Oh, I didn't even see that until I said that.
00:20:29.800 If the legislature...
00:20:31.420 Is that me?
00:20:32.380 Are you talking about me?
00:20:33.960 Because I've said that a lot.
00:20:35.600 If the legislature agrees that it is time to regulate the IVF industry, then the good news is it need not reinvent the wheel.
00:20:46.420 Other westernized countries have given Alabama some examples to consider, like Australia and New Zealand dictate that physicians only make one embryo at a time.
00:20:55.700 Wow, that is way more conservative than what's here in the United States.
00:20:59.420 The European Union countries set a legal limit on the number of embryos transferred in a single cycle.
00:21:06.020 And this is not only to protect the embryos, by the way.
00:21:08.520 It's also because it can be very deleterious to the health of a woman.
00:21:11.920 We've talked about before with Jennifer Law, how there are some doctors are starting to look at the correlation, the causal relationship between what goes on in IVF and egg retrieval and cancer.
00:21:31.040 I mean, it can't be good to pump your body with all of those artificial hormones.
00:21:37.060 There are going to be consequences to things like that.
00:21:39.780 And so that's another thing to consider.
00:21:41.320 Is this good for a woman's body in addition to, is this right to treat a child this way?
00:21:50.260 Italy banned cryopreservation of embryos except in the case of a health risk or a major event preventing the embryo from being immediately transferred.
00:22:03.600 So that means freezing the embryo.
00:22:08.340 So therefore, although certain changes to the IVF industry's current creation and handling of embryos in Alabama will result from this decision to the extent that dissenting Justice Cook is predicting that IVF will now end in Alabama, that prediction does not seem to be well founded.
00:22:24.740 Well, I think that it's kind of telling that so many people are saying the IVF is going to end in Alabama because of a ruling that says the embryos are human children.
00:22:38.340 So are you saying that IVF is mistreating human children?
00:22:42.720 Because, again, I think that that kind of shows us what we all already know about IVF and the IVF process.
00:22:50.720 And it's also showing an unwillingness by the reproductive industry to take any steps toward the well-being of these children that they are creating.
00:23:02.420 I think this is a step in the right direction.
00:23:05.020 Like, I would see it as a huge win if we got to the point in IVF where you are only creating one embryo at a time and you are doing everything you can to transfer, to implant that embryo as quickly as possible.
00:23:21.860 As it stands right now, we have over a million, probably millions, of frozen embryos.
00:23:29.160 And a lot of times parents just pay the fee every month because they don't want to give their embryos up for adoption.
00:23:37.500 I understand that.
00:23:39.300 I mean, those are your children.
00:23:40.920 Those babies are going to look like you.
00:23:43.300 And you don't know who they're going to be raised by.
00:23:45.840 But they can't bear to let their children thaw out and die.
00:23:52.260 And so even the most ardent defenders of IVF, like, understand that there are a lot of ethical issues and questions.
00:23:58.740 And I get this question a lot.
00:24:00.240 Like, what should I do?
00:24:01.820 You realize, like, you're thankful for the kids that you have now through IVF, but you've got these embryos on ice.
00:24:07.580 You don't want to just keep paying for them to be frozen.
00:24:10.780 You don't want to discard them.
00:24:12.000 You don't want to adopt them out to someone else.
00:24:15.840 And look, that's a very, very difficult decision.
00:24:19.740 And I do have compassion for you that you realize now that maybe you shouldn't have gone through that process.
00:24:26.320 And now you're in this ethical quandary.
00:24:29.380 And I'm not sure exactly what the right decision is.
00:24:34.300 Probably adoption.
00:24:35.580 And if there's any way that you can find a Christian couple to adopt your babies, I think that's the right thing to do.
00:24:43.880 I think that that is probably the most selfless option.
00:24:48.660 I don't think it's right just to keep paying the fee to allow babies to be frozen.
00:24:54.420 I don't think it's right to discard them.
00:24:57.660 Some people disagree with me on that.
00:24:59.560 But, again, they're babies.
00:25:01.140 But, like, these are the things that we have to think about.
00:25:03.520 And, by the way, the church needs to be helping people think about this.
00:25:08.000 I understand that this is controversial.
00:25:10.540 And so many pastors, unfortunately, think that they shouldn't wade into controversial topics.
00:25:15.280 Well, look, you shouldn't be leaving it to podcasters to wade into these issues, pastor.
00:25:19.800 You shouldn't be leaving it to TikTokers and influencers to talk about the hard things.
00:25:26.180 Like, if you want to shepherd your flock and you want to make sure that they truly have a biblical worldview, especially when it comes to protecting vulnerable life, which the church is supposed to be a champion of, then you need to wade into the very difficult and controversial issues.
00:25:40.520 If we believe that these are all little image bearers, then Christians have an obligation to stand up for them.
00:25:45.620 So I say good job, Alabama.
00:25:49.580 Obviously, Washington Post is not happy about this.
00:25:54.680 None of the liberal outlets are going to be happy about this.
00:25:58.320 I do want to talk about a little bit what Albert Moeller said about this in his podcast episode in just a second.
00:26:10.520 Okay, so Dr. Moeller, whom we've had on this podcast a couple times, he's someone that I certainly look to for a lot of answers when it comes to complicated, complex issues.
00:26:29.340 He said the hard thing is that many who consider themselves to be pro-life have refused to extend their own logic to the huge moral crisis posed by IVF procedures.
00:26:38.240 That's exactly what I said, and I hadn't even read this yet.
00:26:41.740 Dr. Moeller, you and I, same page.
00:26:43.920 The blunt and unavoidable question is this.
00:26:46.480 Do pro-lifers really believe that unborn children are children?
00:26:50.600 If not, we have been lying.
00:26:52.540 If we really do believe this, how do we reckon with millions of frozen children locked in an indefinite freeze and destined for destruction due to IVF procedures?
00:27:01.360 Exactly, same page.
00:27:02.660 And you know what?
00:27:03.220 I do just want to say someone that has helped me think through this, and maybe Dr. Moeller, too, because I know they've had conversations.
00:27:09.080 Katie Faust is an excellent voice on this, an excellent resource.
00:27:12.700 So is Jennifer Law, both of these women I've had on my podcast, and they have been very helpful for me in helping me develop my stance on these things and also just igniting a passion in me about these things.
00:27:22.760 The court's reasoning, Dr. Moeller says, is unassailable.
00:27:25.540 A human embryo is a human being.
00:27:26.820 I mean, wherever that embryo may be found, if that is not true, the pro-life movement has been lying.
00:27:31.320 If it is true, and it is true, then evangelicals have better make certain our affirmation of human dignity and the sanctity of human life is clear.
00:27:37.920 All unborn children are children.
00:27:40.260 Yes, and amen.
00:27:40.900 And I do just appreciate so much Dr. Moeller's ability to succinctly and biblically give us good analysis and answers about these very controversial topics.
00:27:53.760 Now, you can imagine the pro-abortion industry is very angry about this.
00:27:59.820 The skim used to be pretty neutral.
00:28:06.940 Bri, I don't know if you used to look at – I know, I surprised you.
00:28:12.060 I didn't tell you.
00:28:12.480 I was going to be talking to you.
00:28:13.740 I don't know if you used to read the skim.
00:28:16.540 Actually, in college, in my PR classes, they would recommend it to us, and all of us would read it, like, every single day.
00:28:23.680 Yeah.
00:28:24.080 It was like the news briefing of the day for college students.
00:28:26.220 Yes, yes.
00:28:26.900 It was fun.
00:28:27.680 It was fun.
00:28:28.140 My first year of real work outside of college, I remember reading the skim every morning.
00:28:34.820 Yeah.
00:28:35.400 And I loved it.
00:28:37.020 And now maybe I just didn't notice the bias at the time because I was less aware, but it was probably also more neutral than it is now.
00:28:45.320 Yeah.
00:28:45.720 No, I think it definitely was more neutral back then.
00:28:48.480 Yes, and I even, like, reached out to them one time seeing if they were hiring at all.
00:28:54.360 Me too.
00:28:55.180 Oh, you did?
00:28:55.860 Yeah.
00:28:56.060 We could have met there together.
00:28:58.280 I know.
00:28:58.800 In another life.
00:28:59.540 Okay, but now they're not.
00:29:01.880 Like, I see a lot of things by them that show me that they are progressive, which, of course, is not surprising.
00:29:07.420 And they posted this Instagram post about the Alabama ruling and posted a series of tweets from someone who is pro-abortion about this.
00:29:17.500 And so this person said, so Alabama women can now claim frozen embryos on their taxes, right?
00:29:24.500 Someone else said, what is the logical extension of this?
00:29:27.600 Are individuals with frozen embryos mandated to implant every single one of them or face murder charges?
00:29:32.620 How does any of this work?
00:29:33.840 You know, this is something that progressives do a lot.
00:29:35.800 They ask these questions and they act as if the existence of these questions makes a ruling like Alabama's absurd.
00:29:43.620 Well, why don't we just think through these questions then?
00:29:47.320 These are good questions to ask.
00:29:49.440 And it is worth thinking through them.
00:29:52.080 Just because there are unanswered questions or questions that progressives don't want to answer doesn't mean a ruling like this is ridiculous.
00:30:00.260 Actually, that's basically what the ruling said when it comes to IVF, that we need to do a better job of thinking through this.
00:30:06.220 We need to weigh the right and the dignity of babies when we are looking at reproductive technology.
00:30:11.080 Yes, it has been.
00:30:12.960 It is the wild, wild west when it comes to reproductive technology in America.
00:30:18.220 And that is to our shame.
00:30:20.460 Other countries have thought through it.
00:30:22.260 Other countries that progressives here say are so superior to America because they're far more progressive in some ways.
00:30:29.520 Well, they're a lot more careful and conscientious about this than America is.
00:30:33.900 So why is it so difficult for us to ask some of these questions and actually work on answering them?
00:30:39.220 Someone else that the skim posted said, according to the Alabama Supreme Court, a shelf full of frozen embryos is legally a daycare center.
00:30:48.380 Okay.
00:30:49.520 Is that so is that so crazy?
00:30:51.300 Yeah, these are humans like try to wrap your mind around this.
00:30:55.440 Another post said this will severely restrict, if not end, access to IVF in Alabama.
00:31:00.860 This affects couples with infertility, same-sex couples, and single people trying to become pregnant.
00:31:07.380 Well, yeah.
00:31:09.220 Those with genetic abnormalities who use IVF to optimize chances of having a healthy baby.
00:31:17.580 Eugenics.
00:31:18.580 Eugenics.
00:31:19.320 All of these things.
00:31:21.180 All of these justifications for IVF.
00:31:23.960 They are simply putting the desires of adults over the well-being and the needs of children.
00:31:30.520 And that's what like progressivism does when it comes to anything, but particularly when it comes to abortion and reproductive technology.
00:31:36.620 The Alabama decision is bat, I will not say this bad word, bat feces, they say, for many reasons.
00:31:48.260 And among them, IVF transfers fail approximately half the time.
00:31:51.740 Ding, ding, ding.
00:31:52.980 Ding, ding, ding.
00:31:54.160 That's why, that's why a part of the reason why IVF is unethical.
00:31:59.540 You are saying, here, little embryo, little human being, take this extremely dangerous track into the uterus to be implanted.
00:32:10.540 You very likely may die, but that's okay because we have all of these other embryos.
00:32:15.520 Again, placing a burden on children that shouldn't be placed on them just to fulfill the wants of a parent.
00:32:20.940 50% of transferred embryos do not implant or they miscarry.
00:32:24.300 Who are they fixing to start charging with murder?
00:32:30.040 Again, interesting ethical questions here.
00:32:33.480 I look forward to all women being able to get life insurance for their baby starting the moment they get a positive pregnancy test in Alabama.
00:32:40.200 Okay, if we do that, will you be pro-life?
00:32:43.560 If we go there, which like I'm willing to do that, I'm willing to say, sure, that's fine.
00:32:51.960 We can make sure that a woman who is pregnant gets all of the benefits of a woman who has a child outside of the womb.
00:33:01.180 If we do that, will you be pro-life?
00:33:03.640 If we do that, will you be against abortion?
00:33:06.040 If we do that, will you be for protecting the dignity of these embryos on ice?
00:33:13.200 Probably not, right?
00:33:15.180 And if not, then why are you even bringing this up?
00:33:17.460 Of course, these are all fallacious points that the skim doesn't feel like thinking through.
00:33:26.000 And I guess that's why it's called the skim.
00:33:27.800 They're not really encouraging people to think.
00:33:29.920 They're encouraging people to just skim and not to delve deep into their brains and actually give careful consideration to very complex topics.
00:33:42.280 And so, again, I am in support of this and I'm happy about it.
00:33:46.540 I hope the other states follow suit.
00:33:49.840 Humans are human and they deserve human rights.
00:33:53.520 I know, radical take.
00:33:55.420 But that means even the smallest humans, even the most dependent humans.
00:33:59.980 That is literally, by the way, the Christian ethic.
00:34:02.540 The Christian ethic is that the vulnerable and the helpless and the powerless and the voiceless, the weakest among us deserve our utmost help and our utmost compassion.
00:34:18.420 Of course, in this godless and depraved age that we are in, we have flipped that around to say that we should sacrifice the weak and the young in service to the satisfaction of the desires of adults.
00:34:36.980 And yes, even a good desire to be a parent does not justify treating a child the way the IVF treats them.
00:34:45.160 I know.
00:34:45.680 Hot take.
00:34:46.220 Hot take.
00:34:58.320 Okay.
00:34:59.200 Fanny Willis.
00:35:00.240 Do you even know?
00:35:01.280 Do y'all even know who Fanny Willis is?
00:35:03.100 Because I have been like very lightly, distantly following this story.
00:35:07.500 And so I have just now kind of caught up on what's really going on here.
00:35:12.940 And it's so funny, but it's really sad because we live in a cake-istocracy.
00:35:22.000 A cake-istocracy is when you are run by idiots.
00:35:26.000 And that is what our country is.
00:35:27.940 And this is a great example of that.
00:35:29.860 So this summary is from the Daily Wire.
00:35:32.980 Willis is the first female district attorney for Fulton County, Georgia.
00:35:36.560 Remember Fulton County during the election in 2020 when they had like a bathroom leak or something and so they couldn't count all of the votes that night?
00:35:46.480 Absolutely ridiculous.
00:35:47.360 Fulton County, as many counties in Atlanta, of course, is extremely liberal.
00:35:52.160 It's always the liberal counties that can't seem to count the votes.
00:35:55.620 It's crazy.
00:35:56.820 So she came to fame when she launched an investigation against former President Donald Trump, along with 18 others, for attempting to overturn the election results in the state.
00:36:05.580 Willis was raised primarily by her father, which is interesting to note, a criminal defense lawyer and member of the Black Panthers, the radical political party that championed black civil rights.
00:36:17.560 And he actually comes into this story at some point.
00:36:20.460 So on August 14th, 2023, a Fulton County grand jury voted to charge Trump and others with the alleged crimes.
00:36:28.300 But the case is now in jeopardy because it was recently revealed that she had an affair.
00:36:34.120 That Fannie Willis had an affair with Nathan Wade, the lead prosecutor that she hired for the case.
00:36:40.300 He's also a married man.
00:36:41.600 One of Trump's co-defendants has asked a judge to dismiss her from the case due to the allegations that she misused taxpayer dollars and showed favoritism to Wade.
00:36:51.760 Of course, it was alleged that the two took luxury trips together, paid for with money Mr.
00:36:57.320 Wade earned from his work on the probe.
00:36:59.660 Oh, my gosh.
00:37:00.380 What a tangled web we weave.
00:37:03.380 Wade was also he was also married at the time.
00:37:06.900 Some of the financial evidence came to light as a result of his divorce documentation.
00:37:12.720 Wow.
00:37:13.640 On February 15th, the hearing to disqualify the prosecutors and dismiss the case over the alleged misconduct began.
00:37:21.340 So far, witnesses have testified that Willis and Wade were romantically involved from 2019 to 2022 before Willis hired him for the Trump case.
00:37:30.940 Trump attorneys accused Willis and Wade of having an improper relationship that led them to profit off the prosecution.
00:37:36.900 At the expense of taxpayers, Fannie Willis was not happy when she was asked in court about her relationship with Wade.
00:37:47.600 Here is thought one.
00:37:48.940 Give me the time period.
00:37:50.160 Mr. Wade visits you at the place you laid your head.
00:37:53.080 When?
00:37:53.840 Has he ever visited you at the place you laid your head?
00:37:56.340 So let's be clear because you've lied in this.
00:37:58.320 Let me tell you which one you lied in right here.
00:38:00.440 I think you lied right here.
00:38:02.080 No, no, no, no.
00:38:02.960 This is the truth, Judge.
00:38:03.960 And it is a lie.
00:38:06.180 It is a lie.
00:38:07.240 Ms. Willis?
00:38:07.860 You see.
00:38:08.360 Mr. Say, no, thank you.
00:38:09.260 We're going to take five minutes.
00:38:10.780 Do that in five.
00:38:14.100 Okay, so that kind of typified her behavior while she was being questioned.
00:38:18.860 There's also been some really funny, funny moments.
00:38:22.860 At one point, she asks whether she has traveled with Nathan Wade, and she says, where's Belize?
00:38:28.200 What continent?
00:38:29.100 I'm not being funny.
00:38:30.260 I don't know.
00:38:30.820 I've been to Belize with him.
00:38:32.280 I've been to the Bahamas with him.
00:38:33.520 I've been to Aruba with him.
00:38:34.740 Don't embarrass me.
00:38:35.680 I'm not sure what continents those are on.
00:38:38.180 Okay, so that's what we're working with here.
00:38:40.180 That's Fannie Willis.
00:38:42.600 And she actually admitted to campaign finance fraud in the midst of all of this.
00:38:49.080 Here's Sato.
00:38:49.500 So my question was, where did that cash originally come from, if it didn't come out of the bank?
00:38:54.680 Cash is fungible.
00:38:57.120 I had cash for years in my house.
00:38:59.640 So for me to tell you the source of when it comes from, when you go to Publix and you buy something, you get $50, you throw it in there.
00:39:05.720 It's been my whole life.
00:39:07.640 When I took out a large amount of money on my first campaign, I kept some of the cash of that.
00:39:11.900 Like, okay, she's talking about like why she gave Nathan Wade large payments of cash, which again is believed to be Fulton County taxpayer money.
00:39:23.100 So not a good lady, obviously very corrupt here.
00:39:26.600 And she probably just pursued this Trump prosecution for fame.
00:39:33.460 And her dad actually came to her defense in this case, in this questioning too.
00:39:38.280 And obviously any dad is going to come to the defense of his daughter.
00:39:42.740 But it's interesting to see that he is still apparently involved in her political life.
00:39:47.520 To what extent?
00:39:48.380 I'm not sure.
00:39:49.700 But for all of this, for having an affair with a married man and then having that married man play a role in this case against Donald Trump,
00:40:03.200 that she is using for fame and then misusing taxpayer dollars in the midst of all of that,
00:40:09.320 she is being hailed as a hero in some Georgia churches.
00:40:14.360 So we've created just kind of like a short montage of several pastors at churches in Georgia saying,
00:40:23.520 wow, Fannie Willis, she is doing God's work.
00:40:28.260 So here's that.
00:40:29.300 Fannie Williams had redeemed herself all because she stood up for herself.
00:40:34.980 She was in trouble, but I got a sticky suspicion and a holy hutch.
00:40:38.920 She was not in that courtroom by herself because the Holy Ghost used that background magic and let her do her thing.
00:40:46.480 Some of y'all black folks, when you see us being lynched, you think it's some legitimacy to you.
00:40:52.920 You think we've done something because you're chasing the phantom.
00:40:57.860 You know, that thing was racist because they were trying to act like black women can't have cash on them.
00:41:05.740 This is our Black History Achievement Award presented to Fulton County District Attorney Fannie Willis.
00:41:13.240 An appreciation for outstanding service rendered to our church and to our community.
00:41:19.980 We ask, Lord, that you'll open up the windows of heaven and pour out a blessing that is so mighty and so bold and so brave and so precise
00:41:31.100 that she could not help but to say my health cometh from the Lord.
00:41:35.960 The scripture they keep sending me is, no weapon formed against you shall prosper.
00:41:45.760 I need y'all to hear me, though.
00:41:48.720 They did not say the weapons will not form.
00:41:53.280 And that's the part I didn't hear until recently.
00:41:58.580 Womp womp.
00:42:00.200 I mean, really?
00:42:02.140 Oh my goodness.
00:42:04.020 Here are some other quotes from some of these sermons.
00:42:09.080 I don't care.
00:42:10.040 This is Dr. Mark M. Whitaker.
00:42:13.640 Okay, he's actually in Virginia.
00:42:17.460 So this is about her.
00:42:22.040 And the message is called The Gospel of Fannie Willis.
00:42:26.840 So I originally thought that all these churches were in Georgia.
00:42:29.240 Obviously, the ones where she was attending, they were in Georgia.
00:42:32.460 But some of these churches are predominantly black churches from across the country.
00:42:35.820 So The Gospel of Fannie Willis, he says, I don't care how pretty you look, how made up
00:42:40.420 you are, how degreed you are, how high up you think you are.
00:42:42.740 You're still a Negro in America.
00:42:44.800 It ain't about Fannie.
00:42:46.240 The lynching wasn't about the person hanging from the lynching tree.
00:42:50.820 They were racist because they were trying to act.
00:42:52.900 I think you heard this, act like black women couldn't have cash on them.
00:42:58.460 I mean, I seen y'all.
00:42:59.760 I seen y'all reach in your bra.
00:43:03.220 Okay.
00:43:04.560 Okay.
00:43:05.640 All right.
00:43:07.500 Here's another one from Christ Second Baptist Church in Long Beach, California.
00:43:12.460 Christ Second.
00:43:13.020 She ain't an angry black woman.
00:43:15.960 Her only problem is that she's a black woman in America.
00:43:19.220 This is absolutely absurd, but unfortunately, very common.
00:43:23.920 My friend Daryl Harrison talks about this a lot, just the danger of black liberation theology
00:43:30.380 and the legacy of James Cone just carried down in these churches that, I mean, gosh, there's
00:43:40.860 just so much to say.
00:43:42.380 There is worship of skin color.
00:43:44.780 There is idolatry of power.
00:43:47.600 There is the absolute unwillingness in these churches to be impartial, to see things truthfully,
00:43:56.880 to see things justly.
00:43:58.940 And instead, they have completely imbibed and then regurgitate this idea that if you have
00:44:07.800 brown or black skin and you are accused of something or condemned of something in America,
00:44:13.860 that is a form of unfair oppression that is just the manifestation of the unbroken thread
00:44:21.240 of the legacy of slavery.
00:44:22.680 And it impedes their wisdom and their discernment and their ability to simply see things as they
00:44:31.180 are.
00:44:31.640 This is unbiblical, idolatrous, blasphemous nonsense.
00:44:37.220 And just a reminder, just to note that anyone who believes in the gospel of Fanny Willis is
00:44:44.460 going to hell.
00:44:45.180 So anyone who believes any other gospel than the gospel of Jesus Christ, but this gospel
00:44:53.560 of Fanny Willis is nothing more than the idolatry of skin color and power.
00:44:59.480 This is black liberation theology.
00:45:02.140 When you start with this erroneous idea that all white people are oppressors and all black
00:45:07.240 and brown people are oppressed, and that is the lens through which you see every conflict,
00:45:12.020 every controversy, and just the world in general, politics, you are always going to come to very
00:45:18.380 wrong, theologically wrong, and just logically wrong conclusions.
00:45:26.360 And so it's very dangerous.
00:45:28.020 And you know what's interesting?
00:45:29.660 You know what's interesting is that there's so much talk.
00:45:33.980 People are selling so many books and so many silly little documentaries about the danger of
00:45:39.760 Christian nationalism among white evangelicals and white Trump supporters, and they're basically
00:45:46.400 accusing Christians of using the Bible and using the pulpit to vie for political power.
00:45:52.840 And they view every piece of Republican legislation and every conservative Supreme Court ruling
00:46:01.180 as evidence of that.
00:46:03.380 And yet, these same people have nothing to say about what is routinely said from these so-called
00:46:10.220 black churches, which are, in general, and largely much more explicitly political and much
00:46:22.080 more regularly vie for political power than these so-called MAGA churches.
00:46:27.740 And I'm saying in both cases, by the way, in both cases, when you try to read into scripture
00:46:35.300 for the purpose of your politics, that that can be dangerous and wrong on both sides of the
00:46:41.640 aisle.
00:46:42.260 But what I'm trying to say is that is much rarer when it comes to so-called white evangelical
00:46:48.140 churches than it is in the traditionally black church.
00:46:51.160 I mean, anyone who attends these churches can tell you that when election season comes around,
00:46:58.520 very often the Democrat politicians, they have a place in the pulpit to be able to campaign.
00:47:04.320 No one has a problem with that.
00:47:05.640 That's not scary Christian nationalism, apparently, even though Democrats are the ones who are trying
00:47:13.180 to and do accumulate as much power as possible to ram through their agendas at the expense of the
00:47:20.240 most vulnerable, like the poor in this country.
00:47:23.860 That's all fine, though.
00:47:25.360 That's all fine because they vote Democrat.
00:47:28.320 The real problem that these self-righteous activists have with so-called Christian nationalism
00:47:36.720 is simply the fact that it's leading people or there is simply the fact that anyone is voting
00:47:42.880 Republican and using the Bible to justify their vote and their support of certain issues
00:47:48.620 and certain candidates.
00:47:51.240 That's their real problem.
00:47:53.140 They don't care if Kamala Harris or any of these pastors use the Bible or use their Christianity
00:47:59.440 to justify and defend their positions.
00:48:01.900 It's only wrong when Christian conservatives do it.
00:48:04.340 And unfortunately, a lot of Christian conservatives believe that.
00:48:07.900 Really, what you'll see in a lot of Christian conservative churches is a whole lot of apathy,
00:48:12.880 a whole lot of, well, I don't want to wade into that.
00:48:15.120 I don't want to think about that.
00:48:16.300 I don't want to worry about that.
00:48:17.760 I don't want to vote that way.
00:48:18.880 I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings.
00:48:20.400 That's the much bigger problem in the predominantly white evangelical church is apathy about these
00:48:27.880 very important cultural and political and moral issues than too much activism or advocacy.
00:48:36.020 I don't have any problem with predominantly black churches caring about politics, caring about policies.
00:48:45.100 I think that's very important.
00:48:47.360 But we all must start with a place of exegesis, pulling the meaning out of scripture that is
00:48:54.360 not reading our ideas into scripture, misusing and abusing scripture to lionize this woman who broke up a marriage
00:49:05.800 because of her sexual immorality and then used her position of power to exploit the taxpayers in Georgia.
00:49:16.660 For that, she gets a black history, black excellence award from a church.
00:49:23.880 For that, a pastor says the Holy Spirit was with her in the courtroom using black girl magic to protect her.
00:49:30.620 That is just such utter sacrilege and such blasphemy.
00:49:35.160 It is absolutely ridiculous.
00:49:37.080 I just want to remind you that no matter what your skin color is, no matter what happened with your ancestors,
00:49:43.720 pride and arrogance and blasphemy and theological error, those are still egregious to God.
00:49:53.520 We are all going to be held account.
00:49:55.840 You don't get to use phrases like black excellence or black girl magic to justify sin just because of your melanin count.
00:50:07.260 God is not going to judge you differently or softer or more gently because you have imbibed a narrative
00:50:14.740 that all black and brown people are oppressed and all white people carry just a little more guilt
00:50:19.920 because of maybe, possibly, what one generation of our ancestors might have done in American history.
00:50:28.080 That's not the way God works.
00:50:29.280 That's not biblical justice.
00:50:30.920 Biblical justice is truthful, proportionate, direct, and impartial.
00:50:35.380 Those are the four characteristics that you will see when you read about God's law giving to Israel.
00:50:41.120 And this is unjust.
00:50:43.360 And it's corrupt.
00:50:44.160 And if people believe in this gospel, just as if they believe in any false gospel,
00:50:49.600 whether the church is white or black or Asian, brown, Hispanic, it doesn't matter, it leads to hell.
00:50:54.040 And that's why it actually matters.
00:50:57.780 Oh, man.
00:50:58.780 Oh, man.
00:50:59.300 Oh, man.
00:50:59.880 Craziness.
00:51:00.380 We've got a lot of theological problems in the United States and all different kinds of churches.
00:51:05.000 Okay, we didn't even get to get to all of the things that I wanted to talk about today.
00:51:09.240 I wanted to talk about the whole the NHS in the UK talking about the nutritious value of men who pretend to be women
00:51:20.940 and their so-called breast milk.
00:51:22.660 I talked about it on Instagram, though.
00:51:23.940 So you can go see my commentary there and on X.
00:51:26.360 There was another case like this recently.
00:51:41.720 The self-described super mayor, this is according to the New York Post,
00:51:44.880 of a small Illinois town, has hit back at those who criticized her for almost a $300,000 salary
00:51:51.120 and brazen use of public funds on flights, steakhouses, and billboards while her village faces a deficit.
00:51:58.740 Democrat Tiffany Hinyard, elected as mayor of Dalton in 2021, claimed at a public meeting on Monday
00:52:04.320 that her critics are simply upset because she is a black woman in power.
00:52:07.520 So here's what she said.
00:52:08.660 You should all be ashamed of yourselves because you all are black.
00:52:12.320 You all are black and you all are sitting up here beating and attacking a black woman that's in power.
00:52:20.320 You all forget that I'm the leader.
00:52:22.440 You ain't learned that yet.
00:52:25.080 And so just as a reminder, she went to Atlanta and all of her advisors stayed at the Four Seasons Hotel
00:52:33.060 on the taxpayer dime, spent almost $10,000 there.
00:52:36.720 They flew to New York.
00:52:37.580 The group stayed at the Marriott Marquis in Times Square, where the hotel charged them $13,000.
00:52:43.660 Other charges show the township, where the median annual salary of residents is $24,000.
00:52:49.600 So the median annual salary of residents racked up more than $23,000 in restaurant charges
00:52:55.940 across the state from July to November.
00:52:58.920 So, of course, she is corrupt.
00:53:00.440 This is a misuse of taxpayer funds.
00:53:02.360 But she says that anyone, anyone who is upset at her, of course, is just racist because she
00:53:09.380 is a black woman in power.
00:53:11.420 This is the mentality.
00:53:13.080 It also reminds me of earlier this month when the New York City mayor, Eric Adams, he said,
00:53:19.480 have you seen how much chocolate is leaving the city of New York?
00:53:22.540 This is why they're hating on me.
00:53:26.120 OK, no, they're hating on you because you're doing a bad job.
00:53:29.400 They're hating on you, mayor of the small Illinois town, because you're corrupt.
00:53:33.780 They're hating on you, Fannie Willis, because you had an affair and then appointed the man
00:53:40.700 that you had an affair with to go after Donald Trump.
00:53:43.440 And I will say what I have said several times in the past.
00:53:46.360 As long as racism is seen as a valid excuse for corruption and incompetence, then leaders
00:53:53.200 like this will continue to be rewarded for doing a bad job.
00:53:56.940 I will repeat, as long as racism is seen as a valid excuse for corruption and incompetence,
00:54:05.380 then leaders like this will continue to be rewarded for doing a bad job.
00:54:11.580 It's a lack of accountability.
00:54:13.300 It's a lack of responsibility.
00:54:16.140 And it just enables more of this kind of behavior.
00:54:20.340 It's very sad.
00:54:21.820 It's very sad.
00:54:22.600 And of course, people of all kinds are susceptible to this kind of thinking, whether it's you
00:54:30.160 think that they're just hating on you because you're a woman, they think that they're just
00:54:34.080 hating on you because of some form of your identity or something in your past or just
00:54:38.200 because you're a Democrat or Republican.
00:54:39.840 Maybe it's true.
00:54:41.180 I'm not saying that it's wrong in all cases, but if there are valid reasons for you to be
00:54:45.900 criticized, then maybe go with that.
00:54:48.080 And again, like you don't deserve to be held to a lower standard just because of the color
00:54:53.280 of your skin.
00:54:54.020 I'm sorry.
00:54:54.960 You don't.
00:54:56.120 Now, that is how our country functions, unfortunately for everyone, no matter what your skin color
00:55:01.200 is.
00:55:01.660 But you shouldn't be.
00:55:02.940 You shouldn't be.
00:55:03.900 That really keeps people down.
00:55:05.860 And it's very unfortunate for all of your constituents who have to suffer under you, and yet
00:55:10.080 they will be elected.
00:55:12.340 Again, they will go to all of their local churches and stand in the pulpit and say the only reason
00:55:17.140 anyone has ever criticized me is because I'm black and God is with me, and to quote, the
00:55:22.960 Holy Spirit will be using black girl magic to get me elected again.
00:55:27.360 I'm just quoting.
00:55:28.440 I'm just quoting.
00:55:29.380 It's crazy out there, y'all.
00:55:30.560 It's crazy.
00:55:31.800 A lot of controversial stuff said in this episode today.
00:55:34.800 More than usual, I think.
00:55:36.320 All right.
00:55:36.700 We'll be back tomorrow with more controversial stuff.
00:55:38.980 See you guys then.
00:55:47.140 We'll be right back.