Ep 958 ｜ Laken Riley’s Preventable Murder
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Laken Riley was a 22-year-old nursing student who was just murdered by an illegal immigrant from Venezuela last week. How in the world does this happen? How do we prevent it from happening in the future? Also, MSNBC says that believing that your rights come from God is very problematic. We ve got all that and more on today s episode of Relatable, which is brought to you by GoodRanchers.
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Laken Riley was a 22-year-old nursing student who was just murdered by an illegal alien from
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Venezuela in Athens, Georgia last week. How in the world does this happen? How do we prevent it
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from happening in the future? Also, MSNBC says that believing that your rights come from God
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is very problematic. We've got all of that and more on today's episode of Relatable,
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which is brought to you by our friends at Good Ranchers. Go to GoodRanchers.com. Use code
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Allie at checkout. That's GoodRanchers.com. Code Allie.
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I'm so excited to show y'all in the coming months. Okay, let's get into it. You guys probably saw me
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post about this on Instagram, maybe on X over the weekend. I was and am very, very fired up about
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this story. That's the story of Laken Riley, a 22-year-old nursing student at Augusta University.
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She was found in a forested area near the UGA intramural fields around noon on February 22nd,
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brutally murdered. This story hits close to home. Of course, any story of any person murdered is
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absolutely tragic, deserves our compassion, our care, our attention. But some stories, because of
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the details, either the location or the details of the person involved, they just hit a little bit
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closer to home than other stories because you have a personal tie. And I have a personal tie here
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to Athens, Georgia. It's where I moved after college. I went to college in Greenville, South Carolina. I
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moved about an hour and a half away to Athens, Georgia, took my first job there in PR. That's
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where I met my husband. That's where we got married. That's where we spent the first few years
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of our marriage. We have visited there several times in the last few years. We absolutely love
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Athens. And it's where my husband went to school. He went to UGA. And many people in his family
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throughout the generations went to UGA. I first started doing what I do there in Athens by going
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to the sorority houses on Milledge Avenue and telling the sorority girls there back in 2015 why it was so
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important for them to vote. I have such fond memories of Athens and have such a connection to
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the university there just because of the formative years that I spent in the area. And so I know that
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this has rocked that community. And I know that this is going to continue to make waves there, not just
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locally in Athens, but also in the state of Georgia. And as we'll talk about, this has really become a
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national story because of who perpetrated this murder against this young woman, Laken Riley.
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He happens to be an illegal from Venezuela who had a violent record, who crossed the border several
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years ago, made his way to New York, was charged with the assault of a minor there, but was let out
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of jail because that's always what happens. And then at some point, he made his way to Athens, Georgia,
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and he killed this young woman just the other day. Now, how in the world did this happen? If you are not
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familiar with Athens, if you're not familiar with Georgia, you might just be thinking, well,
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this is a conservative state. They've got a Republican governor. And yeah, of course,
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like a lot of red states, maybe it's turned a little purple over the years, but it's generally
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conservative. And maybe you're thinking this is, you know, a Southern SEC school. Athens is probably
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a conservative town. Why would this illegal alien make his way to somewhere like Athens, who surely
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is not friendly to people like him, to illegal aliens? But the fact is, is that Athens has become
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extremely liberal. It's become, for lack of a better word, like every other progressive city,
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it's become a liberal hellhole. It has become markedly less safe, poorer, and dirtier, and less
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stable. They've got a progressive DA there who does what progressive DAs do in every other
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city across the country. They're soft on crime in the name of social justice, especially if you have
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a particular intersectional identity, like you're an illegal alien, or you are of a certain melanin count
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that qualifies you as what progressives deem oppressed. So that's what has happened to Athens.
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It is much worse. It is much more disgusting than it was when I was there right after college.
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You know, college towns always have some sort of grunge to them. Like, I mean, they're always going
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to kind of smell like beer and other liquids, but there's also a charm to them. I never felt unsafe
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in Athens, even, you know, late at night. And I never felt like I couldn't walk to my car by myself.
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I never felt like my friends and I, you know, had to look over our shoulder when we were downtown.
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But now it is different. And that's what happens with every liberal city. I don't understand. I
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really don't understand how people can't make that connection between progressive policies and how
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awful progressive cities have become. Every single city that is run by Democrats has been run to the
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because in the name of social justice, the people in charge have decided not to enforce the law when
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it comes to crimes, when it comes to drugs, when it comes to homelessness. So whether you're talking
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about Athens, Georgia, or you're talking about Atlanta, or you're talking about Denver or Portland
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or Seattle or San Francisco or D.C. or Chicago or Philadelphia or New York City or Austin. I mean,
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I could go on and on. Every city that is run by Democrats becomes unsafe and unlivable. And that
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is exactly what has become of Athens, Georgia. Unfortunately, Athens, Clark County, is one of
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three sanctuary areas in the state of Georgia. One of three sanctuary areas in the state of Georgia.
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Now, what does it mean to be a sanctuary city? It typically means that you are not going to comply
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with ICE. That you, if ICE says, hey, we know that you've got this illegal alien. He's dangerous. He is
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in your area. We need you to hold him. Or if he commits a crime and he goes to jail in this area,
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this, the district, the sanctuary district or the sanctuary city will not inform ICE of that,
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or they will ignore ICE's detainer orders saying, hey, if ICE says, hey, you got to hold this guy,
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the sanctuary city will say no thanks. They'll release him back into the public. And very often,
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he will commit a heinous crime. That's exactly what seems to have happened here with Lakin Riley.
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So just a few more details about this. Officials said that her body was found after one of her friends
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called 911 to report that she hadn't come home from a jog. According to an incident report,
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an officer found her in the woods beaten to death 30 minutes after they believe the murder took place.
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Police have arrested 26-year-old Jose Antonio Ibarra of Venezuela as the suspect in the crime.
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Ibarra faces charges of malice murder, felony murder, aggravated battery, aggravated assault,
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false imprisonment, kidnapping, hindering a 911 call and concealing the death of another.
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Law enforcement confirmed that Ibarra and his brother Diego were in the U.S.
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as illegal immigrants. I'm just going to say a note on this. My language has kind of changed over
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the years. My dad actually pointed out, you guys know my dad, he's been on the show several times,
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and he calls me multiple times a week to give me feedback on the show. And one thing that he has
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said is, why are you saying migrants now? And I guess I just kind of imbibed the media's
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language and their change in rhetoric about it. He was like, they're not migrants. They're not just
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migrating. They are illegal aliens. You could say illegal immigrants. And I think that's correct.
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I think that we do need to be very careful about our language. And so I actually think illegal alien
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is probably just the most accurate language. So he is an illegal alien. And his brother,
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Jose Antonio Ibarra, was previously arrested, as I mentioned earlier, in New York last August,
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and charged with endangering a child, but was cut loose before immigration officials
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could file a request for local cops to hold him in custody. That's, of course, what sanctuary
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cities do. He was also arrested for shoplifting in an Athens Walmart last October. Then a warrant
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was issued for his arrest when he failed to appear in court regarding the incident. But,
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of course, nothing happened. So let's learn a little bit about Lake and Riley, this 22-year-old
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nursing student. Her life ahead of her seems like a wonderful, sweet young woman. She was first
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enrolled in UGA before transferring to Augusta University to complete her nursing degree. That's
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very common there. She was a standout athlete and student at River Ridge High School, where she ran
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cross-country and track. This is what her family says. Laken was an amazing daughter, sister, friend,
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and overall person in general. Her love for the Lord is exemplified in every aspect of her life.
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She will be missed every day, but we promise to honor her life moving forward in a very big way.
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During this most difficult time, we ask that you respect our privacy and provide us the time and
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space necessary to grieve our daughter's life that was tragically cut short. Her Woodstock City
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Church, that's where her family went to church. They said, we are devastated by the news of the tragic
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death of Laken Riley. Laken's family are active members of our church community. Our prayers are with
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them. Our prayers should be with them, too. Absolutely pray for her family. I mean,
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I cannot imagine the pain of losing a child. I cannot imagine the pain. There's got to be,
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honestly, no worse pain in the world. And so pray for her parents. Pray for her friends. Pray for
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this community that God would somehow be glorified through this. And it sounds like she was a believer,
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and so she is fully healed, and she is with Jesus, and she is happier and more satisfied and more
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joyful than we could ever even imagine. She is not missing what is happening here on earth. So in
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that, we can rejoice and that we will all, all of us who are believers will see her one day, and we can
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absolutely thank the Lord for that. But we still mourn her death here. I mean, Jesus wept at the death
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of Lazarus, and no one knows more than Jesus the beauty and the glory of eternity in heaven. So it is
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right and normal for us to be sad about death. Death is and will always feel unnatural to us because it
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was not supposed to be this way. It is because of the fall that we have to endure the sadness and the
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tragedy and the separation that physical death causes. And so it is not only right for us to mourn for
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those reasons, but it is also right for us to be angered because this was a preventable murder.
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Let us remember this, is that every single crime, every instance of manslaughter, rape, assault,
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theft, and murder committed by an illegal alien is preventable. Not every single crime is preventable,
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although I think a lot of crimes could be better deterred than they are right now just by enforcing
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the law swiftly and consistently and harshly when called for. But every single crime committed by an
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illegal alien is preventable by simply enforcing immigration law the way that so many other
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countries do. We like to act like this is some complex, complicated, nuanced, gray, impossible issue.
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The fact of the matter is we do not have political leaders on the right or the left with the will to
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do what needs to be done. Republicans theoretically are better on this than Democrats, but really what
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have they accomplished? What have they accomplished when it comes to deportations? What have they
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accomplished in protecting women like Lake and Riley from the predation of illegal aliens who are coming
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from places that quite frankly are run by anarchy? We cannot expect people like this. I'm not talking
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about every illegal alien. I'm certainly not talking about all immigrants by any means, but we cannot
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expect people like this who were very likely criminals back home and who lived in a world of anarchy that was
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run by corruption and crime to come here and all of a sudden become freedom-loving, peaceful,
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productive citizens. It's just not going to happen. I'm sorry. It's just not. I think that we believe that they're just
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going to assimilate because everyone is basically the same and has like the same goals and values. That's just not
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true. Not every culture is the same. Not every country shares the same values. Not all people are the same. Not all people
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want the same things. Not all people are motivated in the same way. Not everyone coming here is just looking for a
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better life. They're coming here to mooch off of the most productive and responsible and best citizens
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among us. I mean, this is what happens, not just with illegal immigration, but also just with social
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justice in general. The very best people in our society, like Lake and Riley, are forced to sacrifice
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themselves for the very worst people in our society. People like Ibarra. That's what social justice is.
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That's what social justice policy in action looks like. It means the very worst, the most criminal
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people in society sacrificing the most responsible and the best people in our society. That's exactly
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what happens with illegal immigration in general as well. So what could have been done specifically
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to prevent this? How in the world did this happen? How did this person get over the border to New York
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city to Athens and was able to commit this horrendous crime and to murder this young woman? Did the
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officials, not just in Athens, but in Georgia, did they really do what they needed to do to protect
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its people? We'll get into that in just a second. All right. So this is what ICE has to say.
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They confirmed the U.S. Customs and Border Protection first arrested Ibarra on September 8th,
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2022, after he illegally entered the U.S. near El Paso. But he was paroled and released for further
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processing, apparently because they didn't have enough room. Now, whose fault is that? Whose fault
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is that? Who gave the incentives to these aliens to cross the border, first of all? And why were
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these detention centers so over flooded with these people who have been incentivized to come here? And
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then why was the policy for someone like this to just be released into the interior of the United
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States without any further processing whatsoever for him to commit a series of heinous crimes? Whose
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fault is that? I mean, it's probably a lot of people's fault, but ultimately it's Biden's fault.
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Ultimately, it's Mayorkas' fault. I mean, they have done everything possible to encourage the
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immigration of the world's worst people, not just from South America, not just from Mexico,
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also from China, also from the Middle East. They're coming here, not for a better life, guys,
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okay? They're not asylum seekers. They're not refugees. You know, there's a legal process
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that you go through to be a refugee or to be an asylum seeker, right? And if you truly are seeking
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refuge, if you truly are seeking asylum, you're going to go to the next safest country.
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So if you're in the Middle East or you're in China, America is not the next safest country.
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If you're in a country like Georgia, America is not the next safest country. If you are really
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looking for refuge and asylum, you do not come through Mexico to the southern border. That is
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not the safest thing to do. No, but they're coming to America because they see our leadership and our
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leadership says we're not going to do anything about this. You can come in and you can mooch off
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everyone else. You can get on welfare. You can commit horrible crimes. You'll be released from
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prison. You'll get to bop around to all these different sanctuary cities. You'll get to live
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it up. And you know what I think really just shows this, represents this? We'll put this picture up on
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the screen. I saw this side-by-side photo of when Ibarra was originally arrested back in 2022,
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and then what he looks like today. So you can see what he looked like in 2022. You see what he looks
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like today. Look how fat he has gotten. And I'm not just trying, I'm not just like making a superficial
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slide against him. I'm not just trying to offend him. But this is what you get to do. This is what
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you get to do if you're from Venezuela or you're from another country. You get to cross
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into the United States illegally, and you get to get fat. You get to take the resources and take
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the spoils of everyone else's hard work. And you get to pillage this country without producing
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anything, without paying any taxes. The fact that we can have an illegal alien here who gets fat
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after being here for two years and then takes his final bow by murdering a 22-year-old nursing
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student. I mean, are we even a country at this point? Are we even a country at this point? In order
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to be a country, you have to have sovereignty. That is definitionally what it means to be a country.
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And in order to have sovereignty, you have to have parameters. You have to have a definition,
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right? Like you are not a country. You do not have sovereignty if you can't even define
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where the country is on the map. And at this point, I'm not even sure that the lines, the parameters
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of the United States really mean anything. They're completely flexible and they're completely porous.
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So that's what happens. That's what happened with this young man who has now become a murderer.
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So he was arrested, as I said, last October. He was released. According to News Nation correspondent,
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Ali Bradley, Diego Ibarra entered the country illegally twice, actually. So it wasn't just
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that one time. And you know, I was talking to one of you on Instagram and you are a Venezuelan
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immigrant here legally and you have family back home in Venezuela. And I've heard this from
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several immigrants from Venezuela here who say that their family back in Venezuela are actually kind
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of happy about the immigration situation here in the United States because the streets are safer in
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Venezuela than they are here. Because what is Maduro doing? He is sending all of the violent criminals
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in Venezuela to the U.S. border. So that's what's going on here. This is according to the Western
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Journal. The Department of Homeland Security has reportedly verified that the Venezuelan government
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is releasing violent criminals from its prisons and sending them to the United States. Randy Clark,
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a 32-year veteran of Border Patrol, wrote a piece for Breitbart detailing a then-recent DHS intelligence
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report received by the Border Patrol instructing agents to look for Venezuelan inmates. The report
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indicated that Maduro was purposely freeing inmates, though the report did not specify that the release
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could be a purposeful geopolitical move specifically intended to impact U.S. national security. Well,
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what does it matter? I mean, it is obviously impacting security. This was apparently confirmed in 2022.
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The DHS confirmed that the Venezuelan government is emptying its prisons and sending, again, the worst
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of the worst people to the United States. Is that what happened here? Not totally sure. Back in 2022,
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Bill Malugan, I would say that he is the foremost reporter of what's going on at the border. He's with Fox News.
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He reported a couple of years ago, good morning from Eagle Pass, Texas, where another large group of
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approximately 200 plus migrants just crossed illegally onto private property. Almost all of
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them are single adults, mostly from Venezuela. Somebody hung a Venezuelan flag on the barbed wire fence
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built by Texas here. Isn't it interesting? Like, you see this with a lot of these communities. They come
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here and they still have way more pride for their home country that they apparently had to flee because
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of danger and destitution than they do for America, the country to which they should be extremely
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grateful. And so I just want to like, I just want to say something that I know is controversial.
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In addition to the controversial statements that I've already made about the fact that there are
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different cultures in the world. There are different kinds of individuals. Not all cultures are the
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same. Not all cultures are equally good. Not all cultural practices are equally moral. Not all
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people have the same values. Not all people have the same goals. This kind of like neocon, I would call it,
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or maybe neoliberal mentality of everyone in the world has the same like burning desire for freedom.
00:27:17.180
I once believed that. And we're all essentially the same. Yes, we are all made in the image of God.
00:27:22.440
That's true. We are all equally dead and stand apart from Christ. That's true. But cultures are
00:27:27.240
different. America is unique. Western civilization is uniquely Christian with uniquely Christian values,
00:27:36.460
like the dignity of human beings, like the right to private property, like the idea of innate rights
00:27:46.300
coming from God. Most people in the world and throughout history have no concept of any of
00:27:52.380
those things. And so here is the, here's the controversial point that I am going to make to
00:27:58.040
build on that. People of different nationalities and different cultures and different ethnicities
00:28:05.340
and different kinds of backgrounds cannot have never lived together peacefully for long without
00:28:15.200
some kind of transcendent value system. Transcendent common belief system. It just has never happened.
00:28:29.000
It's never, ever happened. Diversity for diversity's sake has never worked. It always ends in discord. It
00:28:37.960
always ends in bloodshed. It always ends in tribalism. This pie in the sky idea that I think a lot of
00:28:44.660
Christians have, that, oh, we should, we can be like this multicultural mosaic and all live in peace
00:28:53.640
without like the transcendent unity of the gospel. No, that's impossible. The only place that that is
00:29:00.120
going to be possible is in the new heaven and the new earth when we are all united under the reign of
00:29:05.740
Jesus. And it has been possible in the past in the United States because of this uniting transcendent
00:29:11.640
idea that we are made in the image of God first. We all have equality there. We all are of equal value.
00:29:20.620
And then we're all Americans. But now we don't have those uniting values anymore. So diversity is not
00:29:26.220
only not our strength, it's actually our weakness now because we're just assuming that everyone who
00:29:31.520
comes here wants to assimilate and shares ultimately our same values. They don't. Many don't. A lot do.
00:29:37.620
Those, of course, I think who come here legally, they're some of the best people in the world.
00:29:42.280
Some of the best and godliest people in my life have immigrated from places like Africa. They came
00:29:46.800
here illegally. They did it the right way. They care so much about American freedom and Christian
00:29:51.700
values and all of that. So this is not an indictment of immigrants in general. I'm just saying we can't
00:29:58.540
assume that everyone who comes here wants the same things that we want. And we just have to reckon
00:30:04.860
with that. That is part of human nature. That is part of human history. And so America has every
00:30:11.320
right to retain a national identity, just as Zimbabwe does, just as Mexico does, just as Venezuela
00:30:18.280
does, just as Canada does. Every single country has that right. But at this point, I'll just ask again,
00:30:25.920
like, are we even a country? Do we even have a shared national identity? Like, what does it even mean
00:30:32.720
to be an American at this point? When really all we are is, I don't know, a tax farm for our elites
00:30:45.840
to use our hard-earned money to spend it on their pet projects, both here and abroad, a place where
00:30:53.300
some of the worst criminals in the world can come and strip us of our resources? Is that what it means
00:30:58.780
to be an American now? And if you even talk about an American identity, you're told that some kind
00:31:04.180
of racist dog whistle, everyone else in the world gets to be patriotic and care about what it means
00:31:10.780
to be a Kenyan or what it means to be Japanese or what it means to be Chinese. But if you talk about
00:31:17.660
what it actually means to be an American, all of a sudden, you're an evil bigot. And I think that's
00:31:24.120
not only illogical, I think it's immoral. And quite frankly, I think it's unbiblical. I think
00:31:28.960
God gave us borders. He gave us the idea of countries. He gave us the idea of languages.
00:31:33.520
He created human beings. Yes, again, all made in his image, but we are different and we need order.
00:31:40.340
We don't function in chaos well. And this murder is a consequence of that chaos. It's a consequence
00:31:46.120
of that anarchy. It is a consequence of disorder. It is a consequence of borderlessness,
00:31:51.760
which is wicked, which is cruel. It's not empathetic. It's not kind. It's not compassionate.
00:31:56.420
It actually kills. It kills. Brian Kemp, he is the governor of Georgia. And I like Brian Kemp. I've
00:32:05.160
had him on the show before. Good family. I'm sure he loves the country. I'm sure he loves the state of
00:32:10.360
Georgia. So he wrote a strongly worded letter to President Biden saying your actions and those of
00:32:19.120
your administration have resulted in every state and the country experiencing the disastrous impacts
00:32:24.180
of an unsecured U.S. southern border. More than nine million illegal immigrants, he says,
00:32:29.380
have crossed the border since you took office. And he talks about some of the terrible consequences
00:32:33.480
of that. And then he talks about Lakin Riley's murder. And he is basically asking, you know,
00:32:44.060
President Biden to do his job. He says, frankly, Mr. President, your continued silence in response to
00:32:47.820
these reasonable requests is outrageous. The American people deserve to know who is illegally
00:32:51.900
entering our country due to your administration's failures and what risks and challenges every state
00:32:56.860
must now face. He asks some questions. Why was my administration not made aware of the asylum
00:33:01.380
claims and subsequent release of an illegal resident who presented fraudulent identification?
00:33:06.100
He is talking about Ibarra. What is the current immigration status of Jose Antonio Ibarra?
00:33:11.540
Why has this information not been relayed to my administration? Of course,
00:33:14.920
we already know the answers to that. And fine. These are reasonable, reasonable questions. I am
00:33:20.800
just over strongly worded letters. I'm over it. That's what Republicans love to do. They love
00:33:26.400
strongly worded letters. They love to have those fiery moments in the congressional hearing so that
00:33:31.080
they can go viral. But what's actually being done? I'll tell you what should be done.
00:33:37.500
Brian Kemp needs to make good on his campaign promise to arrest illegal aliens and to bust them out.
00:33:44.920
Let me play you. Sot one, which is from Brian Kemp's election campaign several years ago.
00:33:53.920
Kate Steinle, Edwin Jackson and the Cannon family, all killed by illegal immigrants.
00:33:59.360
Donald Trump is right. We must secure the border and end sanctuary cities.
00:34:04.140
As Secretary of State, Brian Kemp fought Obama twice and won to stop illegal immigrants from voting.
00:34:09.320
I'll do the same as your governor. I'll enforce the ban on sanctuary cities and track and immediately
00:34:15.220
deport all criminal aliens so our kids don't become the next victims.
00:34:20.880
I have a genuine question. Is that being done? That's not rhetorical. I really want to know,
00:34:27.500
like, is that being done? Is that what is happening in the state of Georgia? Is he busing the illegal
00:34:35.640
immigrants out? Now, I would love them to be flown out back to Venezuela, but we can at least do what
00:34:43.780
DeSantis and what Abbott did, send them up to the locales that voted to be sanctuary cities.
00:34:51.260
You can send them all to Martha's Vineyard. You can send them all to New York City. But as we know,
00:34:56.860
somehow these illegal aliens are getting from one sanctuary city to the other. And I want to know
00:35:04.160
how. How is that happening? What NGO is helping them travel? Because it's just a little random,
00:35:11.240
right? It's a little random for someone like Ibarra to be in New York City, to be arrested and to come
00:35:15.800
to Athens, Georgia. That's random. Unless someone is telling him, hey, here are the cities available to
00:35:22.920
you that have sanctuary policies that if you get in trouble again, you won't be deported. You won't
00:35:27.560
be arrested by ICE. I'm assuming that's what's happening. I'm assuming that there is some subversive
00:35:33.860
NGO that is, I'm sure, financially motivated by the federal government to protect these aliens. We
00:35:41.300
know that's what's happening at the border. Many times these NGOs are picking them up. They're taking
00:35:45.100
them to these sanctuary cities. And they have no culpability whatsoever when these migrants,
00:35:50.720
when these aliens commit these heinous crimes. So I would just say, Governor Kemp, like, I'm a fan
00:35:57.360
of a lot of what you've done. I appreciate your statement. Let's do something. Okay? Let's do
00:36:03.940
something. Like, do you want another Lake and Riley? Do you want this to happen again? Why are there any
00:36:11.000
sanctuary cities in Georgia at all under your watch? Should not every punishment be employed
00:36:17.920
to these three sanctuary areas to ensure that they cannot have any sanctuary policies?
00:36:27.560
Like, what can be done? Surely there is a way to crack down on them, to remove some sort of funding
00:36:33.260
and support, to put the pressure on them to ensure that they are complying with ICE. And I would just
00:36:39.600
encourage you, those of you who live in Athens-Clarke County, I believe that your representative
00:36:47.000
is Mike Collins. I believe that that's his name. Bree can fact check that for me to make sure that I
00:36:51.980
have that correct. But I would reach out to him. I mean, he's a Republican, and he's going to support
00:36:57.500
what you have to say, but he needs to hear your voice. The pressure needs to be on him. The pressure
00:37:01.940
needs to be on Governor Kemp to do something. The pressure needs to be on local officials. And even
00:37:06.540
though she was not a UGA student, UGA holds a lot of power in Athens. If I were a donor to Georgia,
00:37:13.880
I would get together with my other billionaire buddies, and I would say, look, not another dollar
00:37:19.780
to UGA until Athens-Clarke County enforces the law. Enforces the law when it comes to immigration,
00:37:26.480
enforces the law when it comes to crime. This should have happened a long time ago.
00:37:31.020
Like, we saw the influence that these millionaires and billionaires have
00:37:34.400
over the universities like Harvard and the other Ivy Leagues when these very rich donors said,
00:37:40.940
you know what, I'm not going to donate to you anymore if you continue to fan the flames of
00:37:44.640
anti-Semitism on your campus. So that means that these millionaires, they could have leveraged their
00:37:51.460
influence a long time ago to make these universities comply with sanity and morality. So I'm saying if you
00:37:58.620
are a donor to UGA, you get with your rich buddies and you say not another dollar to UGA until something
00:38:06.160
is done about these policies. And I understand the University of Georgia is not making these policies,
00:38:11.140
but the University of Georgia has power. Without the University of Georgia, Athens is nothing.
00:38:16.160
These politicians are nothing. And I know Athens is supported by a lot of liberal,
00:38:21.360
brainless professors and students. But money talks, money talks. And there are a lot of rich,
00:38:29.920
conservative people that live in and around Athens. I would also say if you are a parent,
00:38:35.120
and I know you want to send your kids to UGA, I know you do because you went to UGA,
00:38:40.060
you're a UGA family. You would never want your kids to go somewhere else. I get that. I totally do.
00:38:47.500
I would say do not send your kids to UGA or to any university that's in a city that is not going
00:38:54.560
to enforce the law for your kids' safety, but also just for principal. And you let them know
00:39:00.500
why you are not sending your kids to Athens, Georgia, why you will not support the university.
00:39:06.280
You will not support Athens, Clark County. Defund sanctuary cities. Defund every district
00:39:12.560
that refuses to enforce the law. Defund social justice. That's what I'm asking you to do for
00:39:18.360
the sake of people like Lake and Riley. For the sake of potential innocent victims. This will keep
00:39:26.540
happening until you use your money, until you use your voice, until you raise a respectful ruckus
00:39:33.620
on this issue. And it's really hopeless and discouraging. It really is because people have
00:39:39.620
been sounding the alarm about the dangers of illegal immigration for years and years. So
00:39:43.920
I'm not so deluded to think that me talking about it on my podcast or even some people out there
00:39:49.660
sounding the alarm about it, that that's going to make the major difference. But if you can just do
00:39:54.340
what you can with the resources and the platform that God has given you, whether that's big or whether
00:40:00.540
that's small, then maybe we can. Maybe you can just make a difference in Athens. Maybe you can just
00:40:05.940
make a difference in Georgia. But until we do something, there will continue to be more Lake
00:40:10.940
and Riley's. There will continue to be more Molly Tibbetts's. There will continue to be more Kate
00:40:15.900
Steinleys. These are all young women in the past few years that have been violently murdered by men who
00:40:22.580
should have never been here. Young women in the prime of their lives. Their lives robbed from them
00:40:30.400
by people who should have not been here. And the blood is on the hands of every politician left and
00:40:39.040
right who refuses to do something. People like it to be a campaign issue. Republicans love to keep
00:40:47.780
this a problem so they can get reelected and run on this. Democrats, of course, are ideologically,
00:40:53.360
demographically motivated to let this problem linger because these people eventually are going to turn
00:40:58.860
into voters. And they like the chaos and the anarchy that it causes. It is. I know people are
00:41:06.000
like, oh, the great replacement theory. It's so scary. I mean, Democrats talk about all the time
00:41:10.340
that demographic demographics is destiny, that that is what is going to change the future of
00:41:16.080
our country is importing voters that don't share the same Christian freedom loving values that you and
00:41:24.140
I have. I mean, it's a long game strategy and it's brilliant when you think about it. And so
00:41:27.880
they don't really care if there's some innocent bloodshed in the meantime. It's all for the
00:41:33.920
greater good. Progressive tyranny, of course. So that's what's going on here. And I'm just so sad.
00:41:42.020
I'm just I'm so sad. I'm so sad for her friends. I'm so sad for the potential victims, for the future
00:41:49.100
victims. They're inevitable. Like we have a record number of illegal crossings, terrorists, rapists,
00:41:58.280
traffickers coming in over the border, and very few people are doing anything about it. Man, pray for
00:42:06.480
our country. Pray for God's mercy and guidance and like some kind of just like miraculous conviction
00:42:12.800
in the hearts and minds of the politicians who have the power to do something but couldn't. It is
00:42:21.080
representative Mike Collins, by the way. He does represent Athens-Clarke County. So I would say
00:42:27.480
he's the person to reach out to and as well as Governor Kemp's office. Where are the buses, Governor
00:42:35.420
Kemp? Where are the buses? Let's do what you said that you were going to do, what you ran on.
00:42:42.940
All right. That's it on that story. And of course, I talked about it a lot longer than I was going to,
00:42:47.860
but we are going to get into these these other stories, even if it's a longer episode,
00:42:52.780
because I just got to cover them. Too much going on.
00:43:05.420
Okay. Everything that I just said there would be flagged by the good people at MSNBC and elsewhere
00:43:15.200
as so-called Christian nationalism. I'm using big scare quotes for those who are just listening to
00:43:23.440
this. And as we've talked about many times, this is something that is very loosely defined,
00:43:29.400
but is consistently used as a mallet to bludgeon only conservative Christians. Remember, it's not
00:43:36.920
Christian nationalism if, say, a predominantly Black church is standing up there and saying that
00:43:44.040
the Holy Spirit is using Black magic to help Fannie Willis in her trial. It's not Christian nationalism
00:43:51.100
if Democrat politicians are visiting these predominantly Black churches and saying,
00:43:55.400
vote for us. God wants you to vote for us. God wants you to give me power. God has given me
00:44:01.400
power. And if you give me the power that God has ordained to me, I'm going to do X, Y, Z for you.
00:44:06.920
That apparently is not Christian nationalism. But if a conservative says, hey, our rights come from God,
00:44:14.500
that is, by the way, what the founder said, that we were endowed with certain inalienable rights by
00:44:19.260
our creator. That's the Declaration of Independence. If you say, hey, I believe that it's wrong
00:44:24.500
to kill babies. It's wrong for anyone to kill a baby in or outside of the womb. And yes,
00:44:29.960
my belief that we are made in God's image, my belief in Psalm 139 that does motivate that.
00:44:35.580
If you have a Christian understanding of the world and you bring that into the public sphere and how
00:44:41.540
you work and how you speak and how you vote, we are told that that is scary, dangerous Christian
00:44:47.260
nationalism, that that is anti-democratic. Only if you are a conservative Christian,
00:44:51.840
if your Christian beliefs erroneously motivate you to vote for Democrats, to vote for abortion,
00:44:58.020
to vote for anti-Christian ideals, then that's all well and good. Here is Heidi
00:45:04.420
Prisabila. I'm not totally sure. Is that right, Brie Prisabila? She's on MSNBC. Brie doesn't know.
00:45:13.000
I don't know either. She went viral on Thursday when she was asked about the infusion of Christian
00:45:17.860
nationalism in Congress following the appointment of Mike Johnson, his House Speaker. Mike Johnson,
00:45:22.880
who is the House Speaker. He is, I wouldn't even say he's like all that conservative of a Christian.
00:45:29.380
Like he was kind of repeating some BLM talking points a few years ago, but he has definitely
00:45:34.600
talked about being an evangelical Christian and believing a lot of the things that you and I do.
00:45:40.220
And I really appreciate how outspoken he has been about those things. And I totally agree with him
00:45:45.540
on a lot of the things that he says. But apparently this is, for the first time in all of history,
00:45:51.760
in all of the history of America, very problematic and scary and tyrannical. So here is what Heidi
00:45:57.840
said on MSNBC just a few days ago. The one thing that unites all of them, because there's many
00:46:03.460
different groups orbiting Trump, but the thing that unites them as Christian nationalists,
00:46:08.260
not Christians, by the way, because Christian nationalists is very different,
00:46:11.720
is that they believe that our rights as Americans, as all human beings, don't come from any earthly
00:46:18.360
authority. They don't come from Congress. They don't come from the Supreme Court. They come from God.
00:46:22.820
Oh my gosh, that is so radical. That is so extreme. That is some new modern idea that we just came up with.
00:46:34.300
That it's brand new information in the words of Phoebe. Let me remind you of what the Declaration
00:46:43.260
of Independence says. Let me just read it verbatim for you. We hold these truths to be self-evident,
00:46:50.360
the founder said, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain
00:46:57.980
unalienable rights. Among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Now, Ms. Heidi is a
00:47:07.740
Polk Award winner. She is a Pulitzer finalist. She is Politico's national investigative correspondent.
00:47:16.860
And she is apparently a smart person. She is apparently an intellectual, somewhat of a historian.
00:47:25.260
And she says the scary part of Christian nationalists is that we believe our rights come from God. Yeah,
00:47:34.080
that's why any of us are here in the United States. The United States does not exist apart from that
00:47:41.300
idea. So if that idea that our rights come from God is Christian nationalist, then the founders were
00:47:49.420
Christian nationalists and America is a Christian nationalist nation. Is that what you are admitting,
00:47:56.060
Heidi? Is that what you are saying? The truth is, the idea that our rights come from God is why
00:48:04.060
she is allowed to say stupid things like that legally. Because we have the inherent right, the founders
00:48:11.800
believe, to free speech. And to worship who we want to worship. And within some parameters, how we want
00:48:19.680
to worship. We have the right to defend ourselves. We have the right to property. We have the right,
00:48:25.980
first and foremost, to life. Because without the right to life, neither liberty nor happiness exist.
00:48:32.340
And the reason why all of these have to come from God is because if they come from man or they come
00:48:39.600
from government, then they're completely arbitrary. They're no longer innate. They no longer really
00:48:46.540
belong to us. They belong to the government. And therefore, the government, if they are the giver of
00:48:51.900
those rights, the arbiter of those rights, they then have the authority, the power to give them or to
00:48:59.860
take them away as they see fit. But we believe, the founders believed, this was core to the creation
00:49:07.860
of America. That only God, the author, has the authority to give us our rights. And therefore,
00:49:16.500
they cannot be arbitrarily given or taken away. That is core to what America is. But again, going back to
00:49:26.700
our previous conversation, liberals don't even believe in an American identity. They resent
00:49:31.960
the Constitution. They resent our founding. They hate our founders. They think it's all really null and
00:49:40.160
void. And that progressives should have totalitarian control over everything. And then and only then can we
00:49:47.980
have this beautiful, wonderful, empathy-filled nation, this multi-ethnic coalition where everyone
00:49:56.280
just gets along. And it is anti-human nature. It is anti-biblical. It is anti-truth. It is absolutely
00:50:05.980
absurd. And this is why progressivism fails. This is why the cities run by progressivism, who are like
00:50:12.300
pro-legalizing drugs, pro-legalizing homelessness, pro-legalizing crime and theft and all of these
00:50:20.200
things. This is why they fail. It's why they're running to the ground. Because progressivism doesn't
00:50:25.080
understand human nature. Because it doesn't understand where human beings come from. If you
00:50:29.780
don't understand or believe in its creator, you can't really understand the creation. And that's why
00:50:35.140
progressives just don't rule well. They don't dictate well. And so that's where they're coming
00:50:41.880
from. And it's a scary place because this lumps every single person into the scary category of
00:50:49.220
Christian nationalism, which the intelligence community has already dubbed a terroristic threat,
00:50:56.140
which of course is ridiculous. That's not where the threat of violence is coming from. That's not where
00:51:00.640
the threat of terrorism is coming from. But they want to criminalize you for basic Christian
00:51:04.540
beliefs. The only kind of Christian that they think is okay is the kind of Christian that is
00:51:08.980
completely neutered, that may believe some things in their home about marriage and sin and abortion
00:51:17.580
and all of that, but you can't actually represent those in the public sphere. It is not just anti-Christian.
00:51:23.920
It is completely and totally anti-American. Do not be intimidated by this. Don't be intimidated by the lie
00:51:31.420
that you and only you, conservative Christian, cannot represent your beliefs in the public sphere.
00:51:37.820
Everyone else gets to. An atheist gets to vote in accordance with their faith, and they do absolutely
00:51:43.720
have a faith. Every flavor of progressive, agnostic, mainline Protestant, they all get to vote in accordance
00:51:55.200
with their worldview. Progressivism in itself is a religion. They all get to vote on this completely crazy,
00:52:03.740
fantastical, quasi-religious belief that a man can become a woman. That's fine for them to bring their subjective
00:52:11.100
beliefs into the public sphere, but when you, conservative Christian, do it, that's when you're a terroristic threat.
00:52:16.640
Yeah, I mean, it's so on the nose when you look throughout history of, for example, Soviet Russia
00:52:22.540
or Mao's China. It is so obvious what they're trying to do, but you can't be intimidated by it.
00:52:28.360
Like, of course, I'm not saying that you embrace the extreme examples of what they're talking about
00:52:34.420
that might actually be, you know, violent and terrible and all of that, but continue to be a Christian
00:52:38.980
out loud. Be a Christian in how you vote and how you talk and the things that you do and how you work
00:52:43.520
and how you enter into the public square. Absolutely. They're trying to intimidate you
00:52:48.700
into complacency, into apathy, into silence, and you just can't do that. You just can't do it. Like,
00:52:54.080
lives depend upon it. Really, they do. I mean, we are voting against, we are standing against things
00:53:00.560
like child sacrifice, which the church has always done. The church has always, everywhere we have
00:53:06.480
infiltrated, every single society that we have stepped into, we have put an end to child sacrifice.
00:53:11.000
We have said no more. And the Democrat Party today stands for child sacrifice, the butchering of
00:53:16.800
children's bodies in and outside of the womb, whether it's through quote-unquote gender affirmation
00:53:21.280
or abortion. The least we can do as the church is what the church has always done, stood against
00:53:25.460
child sacrifice. And you are the last barrier between them and total control and total utter depravity.
00:53:36.940
So don't be intimidated by this stupidity. It is stupidity, but it's dangerous stupidity because
00:53:41.620
these people not only have a voice, but they also have influence and they are influencing what the
00:53:49.120
government implements as far as policy goes and what they think about us and what the intelligence
00:53:56.800
community is planning to do. I'm sure in an election year when it comes to those of us who want
00:54:02.880
to raise our voice about things like immigration or freedom of religion or abortion, whatever it is,
00:54:08.620
we've already seen what they are doing in arresting peaceful pro-life protesters. Scary times. I would
00:54:15.960
say not only should we be reading the Bible on a daily basis, make sure that we are absolutely and
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totally equipped with God's word. But if you can read some Live Not By Lies, if you can read some
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Soltzenheidsen, always get the pronunciation a little wonky. But if you can read a little bit
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of Soviet Russia and be prepared to not only live not by lies yourself, but don't let the lie triumph
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or be perpetuated through you. What can we only do? What can we only do? The next right thing in faith
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with excellence and for the glory of God. Sometimes it's very public and loud. Sometimes it's very private
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and quiet. Sometimes it's just prayer. Sometimes it's just evangelism. Sometimes it's just changing
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diapers. But sometimes it's speaking up. Sometimes it is calling your senator. Sometimes it's raising a
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respectful and loud and relentless and persistent ruckus because lives are on the line. Politics
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matter because policy matters because people matter. Politics affects policy. Policy affects people. And
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people matter. Christians know that better than anyone. Okay. All right. That's all we got on those
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two things. We are going to talk about. Just one more thing. End on a lighter note. We're going to end
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on a lighter note. All right. Comedian Shane Gillis hosted Saturday Night Live over the weekend and he
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caused a stir. SNL gave a platform to a guy that they had to fire several years ago because people had dug
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up some jokes that he made in the past that they called insensitive and misogynist. And I think
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racist was probably one of the critiques leveled against him. Now, I don't really I'm not familiar
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with Shane Gillis, so I'm not defending him. I've seen a few of his things and a few of his jokes on
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my Discover page on Instagram. And it's been funny. It's not your typical like progressive stuff. And so I
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always appreciate people willing to go against the grain. I'm not saying he is like a Christian or
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conservative, but there is something to be said about people who are willing to go against the
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progressive zeitgeist. And so he came back after being fired from SNL in 2019. He came back to host
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the show. So I'm sure he felt like there was some vindication there. And he made a couple jokes that
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apparently didn't really land that well with SNL's more left leaning audience. And so here is
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Sot 3. My mom asked me, she's like, when did we stop being best friends? And she's right. We used
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to be best friends. You remember that when you were a little boy and you like you loved your mom and you
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thought she was the cool. You remember when you were gay? You remember when you were just a gay little
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boy? Every little boy is just their mom's gay best friend. There's literally zero difference.
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Okay, so apparently the audience that was present actually did like that joke. But the chatter online
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was that, oh my gosh, this is a homophobic, bad gay joke. He also has a bit about Down syndrome
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that he has told several times. I've heard it and he shared it on here. Of course, some people called it
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ableist and some people said, oh, it's all in good fun. He's not actually demeaning this group of
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people. But here is his joke about Down syndrome. Yeah, you can always tell who's never been around
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Down syndrome when you bring it up. Like if I tell people, if I'm like, yeah, I have family members
00:57:47.320
with Down syndrome. People that have never been around it are always like, oh, like it's like it's
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the end of the world. Like, oh, are they okay? Are they doing it? It's like they're doing better than
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everybody I know. They're the only ones having a good time pretty consistently. They're not worried about
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the election. They're having a good time. He he tells a joke about his his uncle, Uncle Danny,
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I think, who has Down syndrome. And I'll just go ahead and tell the like maybe one of the most
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controversial jokes that he has. I'm not going to tell like he tells it, but he does a crossover of
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gay joke and a Down syndrome joke. And he's like, you know, they say that gay isn't a choice,
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but all the guys I know that can't think love women. He's talking about Down syndrome. I'm not
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I am not supporting his joke. I am just saying that is one of the controversial jokes that he
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tells. And it is. I mean, it's funny. It's funny. I'm not saying that we should sign off on like every
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bit of morality that a comedian represents, but it's a funny joke. It's kind of a clever joke.
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Um, he also joked about there was a cracker joke. I haven't heard this one. And apparently he got a
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big applause. So here it is. I'm not saying it's like something I'm looking forward to,
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but I think it'll be a nice thing for the whole country. I would say when my niece is probably in
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like fifth, sixth grade out at recess and some white kids out there like, hey, you're not allowed
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to play with us. You're retarded. And then three black kids come flying out. Now we start wailing on
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that cracker. Everyone's going to be like, oh, it's like, it's like a nice moment.
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Okay, Brie, can you explain the context? Yeah. So right before that, he has described his sister's
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family and she, they, they adopted three little black boys and then they had a biological child
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who has Down syndrome. So he's explaining that those, that her three brothers would essentially
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be beating up the white kids for calling her the R word. So that was the context of that.
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Okay. And they loved that. The audience loved that one.
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Oh, okay. Because it was like black people against a white person. Okay. Seemingly.
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Yeah. Okay. I know that some people will think that I'm like a fuddy daddy for this. I am like
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anti-R word. I am so anti-R word. I'm not, I know people call it like politically correct. I just
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really hate it. I hate the R word. I just do. You don't have to agree with me on that.
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But it's not like I go around using it. No, I know. I just, I didn't want you to think
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that I was looking to you to validate me over there, but I just, I hate it. I hate it. I think
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that it's so like, I don't know, degrading to a group of wonderful, wonderful people who
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actually, some of them do suffer from mental retardation. Not everyone with some kind of
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special needs is. And that's what I also don't like about it is that everyone with special
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needs like autism, down syndrome, whatever it is, they're all kind of like put into that
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category of mental retardation. And then that like adjective is used to describe the world's
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worst things. And I just, I personally just don't like it. So just FYI there, don't love
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it. Um, the, the use of that word, but I understand that this is an SNL monologue and you know,
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I do think it says something about SNL that they were willing to have someone on that has
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maybe a more conservative fan base spree. Again, he's not a conservative. He kind of jokes about,
01:01:24.580
oh, I'm going to be a Republican soon, but I'm not yet. But SNL is so far left that I actually
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think it's kind of impressive that they had him on.
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Yeah. I know the, the conversation before this aired, cause they teased it a few weeks in advance
01:01:39.660
and, um, yeah, the, the conservative side was very excited for this episode. Just, I think,
01:01:46.520
because he is willing to say jokes that like other comedians wouldn't. Um, and I don't even
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think the SNL, the people who produce SNL liked this monologue. You can tell the band behind him
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Okay. But apparently they don't laugh. I saw that.
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Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. I'm sure that they don't share like the same values or even if they
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do, they had to keep it in, they had to keep it inside. It's controversial. Why do you think SNL
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is doing this? Why do you think that they're having back on someone that they fired for
01:02:29.540
I don't think it's like to make amends or anything. I think he got his Netflix special.
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That was one of the highest viewed specials on Netflix ever.
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He's getting another one. Now he's getting a show on Netflix. He's a big deal and people
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love him. And so I think it was just for views.
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Love, love. He's not, he doesn't talk really like about politics or anything at all. He's just like
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a clean comedian. He doesn't cuss. He doesn't talk about sex. I, okay. I went to one of his shows a
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couple of years ago with my husband. I think that I have the biggest crossover with Nate Bragazzi.
01:03:10.160
I mean, it was like, I felt like the biggest celebrity in the world because I went to a
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Nate Bragazzi show. And I mean, honestly, and this is not how it is, you know, when I go just
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anywhere, but I mean, there were probably like 30 different people coming up to me like,
01:03:27.740
Allie Beth Stuckey, Allie Beth Stuckey. And I was like, wow, there must just be,
01:03:31.520
it's like the evangelical Southern Christian world. You love ABS and you love Nate Bragazzi.
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So yeah, that was really fun. And he was hilarious. There are not many things that can
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make me laugh out loud or like many comedians. Even if I think it's funny, I'll like give like a,
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but he actually makes me laugh out loud. And his opener did too, but I can't remember his name.
01:03:57.460
So, you know, I appreciate this. I appreciate SNL reaching out.
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Getting some different kinds of people. Do you follow Theo Vaughn?
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He's so out of pocket. I don't even know if he could. Do you think he could host SNL?
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Like, I can't imagine what a monologue by him would be.
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I think he could, but I don't, I don't know that they would let him.
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I think he physically could. That's what I'm saying.
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Yeah, no, I think he'd just be too unhinged to be honest.
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You would definitely have to fill the audience with Theo Vaughn fans. You can't fill it with
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like a bunch of just random New Yorkers or else they're not going to. I just don't know if they're
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going to get it. Yeah. He's such an interesting person. Yeah, I know.
01:04:44.740
The most interesting person. YouTube loves to feed me Theo Vaughn clips because.
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I've laughed out loud at multiple ones that have just popped up on my timeline.
01:04:54.940
Well, there's zero. You can never guess how the clip is going to end.
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That like you start, he's talking about like a family reunion with his cousin. And at the end
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of it, he's talking about the most like, I don't know, out of this world subject. And you're like,
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how in the world did we get there? I don't know.
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Yeah. It's part of his charm. Anyway. Okay. I do think it's interesting how there's like this
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rising crop of like anti-woke comedians. And even if I don't, you know, agree with them on
01:05:25.560
everything or whatever, I do think it's a positive development. Even like someone like Dave Chappelle
01:05:30.140
and Joe Rogan being only to talk about the things that they do. I think it's a good thing. There's
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like the comedian plays a very important cultural role in highlighting the absurd. And they can do
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more actually to change culture than someone who is just literally talking, I think, in a lot of
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ways. All right. That's all we got time for today. We will be back here tomorrow. Tomorrow is an
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episode of Wellness Wednesday. And so completely different change of pace. We're going to be
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talking about hormones and birth control and all different kinds of ways that women can remain
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balanced. So I'm so excited for you to listen to that. We will be back here tomorrow.