Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 958 ｜ Laken Riley’s Preventable Murder

00:00:00.820 Laken Riley was a 22-year-old nursing student who was just murdered by an illegal alien from 1.00

00:00:07.480 Venezuela in Athens, Georgia last week. How in the world does this happen? How do we prevent it

00:00:14.420 from happening in the future? Also, MSNBC says that believing that your rights come from God

00:00:21.820 is very problematic. We've got all of that and more on today's episode of Relatable,

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00:00:43.680 Hey, guys. Welcome to Relatable. Happy Tuesday. Hope everyone is having a great week so far.

00:00:49.320 Go listen to yesterday's encouraging conversation if you haven't already. It is such a good reminder.

00:00:54.680 People's testimony, especially yesterday's testimony, such a good reminder that it is impossible

00:01:00.440 to be outside the realm of God's redemption. You're not too far gone. You're not too far off. God can

00:01:08.620 do anything. Some of the most encouraging words in the Bible you read in several places, but I think

00:01:15.140 of Ephesians 2, but God, but God. It seems like we were too far off. It seems like we were hopeless.

00:01:22.260 It seems like we were destitute and in a place of total despair, but God, through the power of

00:01:29.820 His Holy Spirit, the power of Christ, He can do anything and save anyone. So praise God. If you just

00:01:35.880 need a reminder of that, that God is working in and around and through and above all the craziness of

00:01:42.600 what's going on in the world to win people to Himself, go listen to yesterday's episode. So edifying

00:01:48.720 for me personally, I know it will be for you too. All right. We have so much to talk about. I know I say

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00:02:05.160 that. But no guarantees. As you guys know, being concise is not necessarily my biggest strength.

00:02:10.600 First, before we get into some of these stories, we've got some announcements. Debatable,

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00:04:54.760 I'm so excited to show y'all in the coming months. Okay, let's get into it. You guys probably saw me

00:05:12.220 post about this on Instagram, maybe on X over the weekend. I was and am very, very fired up about

00:05:20.560 this story. That's the story of Laken Riley, a 22-year-old nursing student at Augusta University.

00:05:27.280 She was found in a forested area near the UGA intramural fields around noon on February 22nd,

00:05:37.500 brutally murdered. This story hits close to home. Of course, any story of any person murdered is

00:05:47.540 absolutely tragic, deserves our compassion, our care, our attention. But some stories, because of

00:05:57.560 the details, either the location or the details of the person involved, they just hit a little bit

00:06:04.120 closer to home than other stories because you have a personal tie. And I have a personal tie here

00:06:10.640 to Athens, Georgia. It's where I moved after college. I went to college in Greenville, South Carolina. I

00:06:16.600 moved about an hour and a half away to Athens, Georgia, took my first job there in PR. That's

00:06:21.740 where I met my husband. That's where we got married. That's where we spent the first few years

00:06:28.080 of our marriage. We have visited there several times in the last few years. We absolutely love

00:06:36.080 Athens. And it's where my husband went to school. He went to UGA. And many people in his family

00:06:41.580 throughout the generations went to UGA. I first started doing what I do there in Athens by going

00:06:50.100 to the sorority houses on Milledge Avenue and telling the sorority girls there back in 2015 why it was so

00:06:56.980 important for them to vote. I have such fond memories of Athens and have such a connection to

00:07:07.340 the university there just because of the formative years that I spent in the area. And so I know that

00:07:16.220 this has rocked that community. And I know that this is going to continue to make waves there, not just

00:07:26.320 locally in Athens, but also in the state of Georgia. And as we'll talk about, this has really become a

00:07:32.680 national story because of who perpetrated this murder against this young woman, Laken Riley.

00:07:41.320 He happens to be an illegal from Venezuela who had a violent record, who crossed the border several

00:07:49.720 years ago, made his way to New York, was charged with the assault of a minor there, but was let out

00:07:57.440 of jail because that's always what happens. And then at some point, he made his way to Athens, Georgia,

00:08:04.180 and he killed this young woman just the other day. Now, how in the world did this happen? If you are not

00:08:11.040 familiar with Athens, if you're not familiar with Georgia, you might just be thinking, well,

00:08:16.040 this is a conservative state. They've got a Republican governor. And yeah, of course,

00:08:21.700 like a lot of red states, maybe it's turned a little purple over the years, but it's generally

00:08:27.520 conservative. And maybe you're thinking this is, you know, a Southern SEC school. Athens is probably

00:08:33.760 a conservative town. Why would this illegal alien make his way to somewhere like Athens, who surely 1.00

00:08:41.940 is not friendly to people like him, to illegal aliens? But the fact is, is that Athens has become

00:08:51.320 extremely liberal. It's become, for lack of a better word, like every other progressive city,

00:08:56.880 it's become a liberal hellhole. It has become markedly less safe, poorer, and dirtier, and less

00:09:05.620 stable. They've got a progressive DA there who does what progressive DAs do in every other

00:09:11.740 city across the country. They're soft on crime in the name of social justice, especially if you have

00:09:17.580 a particular intersectional identity, like you're an illegal alien, or you are of a certain melanin count

00:09:25.660 that qualifies you as what progressives deem oppressed. So that's what has happened to Athens.

00:09:32.580 It is much worse. It is much more disgusting than it was when I was there right after college.

00:09:39.380 You know, college towns always have some sort of grunge to them. Like, I mean, they're always going

00:09:45.280 to kind of smell like beer and other liquids, but there's also a charm to them. I never felt unsafe

00:09:53.780 in Athens, even, you know, late at night. And I never felt like I couldn't walk to my car by myself.

00:10:01.380 I never felt like my friends and I, you know, had to look over our shoulder when we were downtown.

00:10:08.600 But now it is different. And that's what happens with every liberal city. I don't understand. I

00:10:15.340 really don't understand how people can't make that connection between progressive policies and how

00:10:21.100 awful progressive cities have become. Every single city that is run by Democrats has been run to the

00:10:31.380 because in the name of social justice, the people in charge have decided not to enforce the law when

00:10:37.240 it comes to crimes, when it comes to drugs, when it comes to homelessness. So whether you're talking

00:10:41.740 about Athens, Georgia, or you're talking about Atlanta, or you're talking about Denver or Portland

00:10:47.340 or Seattle or San Francisco or D.C. or Chicago or Philadelphia or New York City or Austin. I mean,

00:10:54.900 I could go on and on. Every city that is run by Democrats becomes unsafe and unlivable. And that 0.55

00:11:02.920 is exactly what has become of Athens, Georgia. Unfortunately, Athens, Clark County, is one of

00:11:12.300 three sanctuary areas in the state of Georgia. One of three sanctuary areas in the state of Georgia.

00:11:20.100 Now, what does it mean to be a sanctuary city? It typically means that you are not going to comply

00:11:25.260 with ICE. That you, if ICE says, hey, we know that you've got this illegal alien. He's dangerous. He is

00:11:32.860 in your area. We need you to hold him. Or if he commits a crime and he goes to jail in this area,

00:11:41.400 this, the district, the sanctuary district or the sanctuary city will not inform ICE of that,

00:11:48.000 or they will ignore ICE's detainer orders saying, hey, if ICE says, hey, you got to hold this guy,

00:11:55.980 the sanctuary city will say no thanks. They'll release him back into the public. And very often,

00:12:02.820 he will commit a heinous crime. That's exactly what seems to have happened here with Lakin Riley.

00:12:11.680 So just a few more details about this. Officials said that her body was found after one of her friends

00:12:17.240 called 911 to report that she hadn't come home from a jog. According to an incident report,

00:12:22.020 an officer found her in the woods beaten to death 30 minutes after they believe the murder took place.

00:12:27.920 Police have arrested 26-year-old Jose Antonio Ibarra of Venezuela as the suspect in the crime.

00:12:33.780 Ibarra faces charges of malice murder, felony murder, aggravated battery, aggravated assault,

00:12:38.900 false imprisonment, kidnapping, hindering a 911 call and concealing the death of another.

00:12:43.600 Law enforcement confirmed that Ibarra and his brother Diego were in the U.S.

00:12:48.260 as illegal immigrants. I'm just going to say a note on this. My language has kind of changed over

00:12:54.560 the years. My dad actually pointed out, you guys know my dad, he's been on the show several times,

00:12:59.260 and he calls me multiple times a week to give me feedback on the show. And one thing that he has

00:13:04.820 said is, why are you saying migrants now? And I guess I just kind of imbibed the media's

00:13:11.100 language and their change in rhetoric about it. He was like, they're not migrants. They're not just

00:13:15.940 migrating. They are illegal aliens. You could say illegal immigrants. And I think that's correct. 1.00

00:13:22.340 I think that we do need to be very careful about our language. And so I actually think illegal alien 1.00

00:13:27.080 is probably just the most accurate language. So he is an illegal alien. And his brother,

00:13:33.920 Jose Antonio Ibarra, was previously arrested, as I mentioned earlier, in New York last August,

00:13:38.180 and charged with endangering a child, but was cut loose before immigration officials

00:13:41.960 could file a request for local cops to hold him in custody. That's, of course, what sanctuary

00:13:46.000 cities do. He was also arrested for shoplifting in an Athens Walmart last October. Then a warrant

00:13:53.680 was issued for his arrest when he failed to appear in court regarding the incident. But,

00:13:57.140 of course, nothing happened. So let's learn a little bit about Lake and Riley, this 22-year-old

00:14:03.540 nursing student. Her life ahead of her seems like a wonderful, sweet young woman. She was first

00:14:10.520 enrolled in UGA before transferring to Augusta University to complete her nursing degree. That's 0.99

00:14:14.800 very common there. She was a standout athlete and student at River Ridge High School, where she ran

00:14:19.920 cross-country and track. This is what her family says. Laken was an amazing daughter, sister, friend,

00:14:25.520 and overall person in general. Her love for the Lord is exemplified in every aspect of her life.

00:14:30.200 She will be missed every day, but we promise to honor her life moving forward in a very big way.

00:14:34.800 During this most difficult time, we ask that you respect our privacy and provide us the time and

00:14:38.120 space necessary to grieve our daughter's life that was tragically cut short. Her Woodstock City

00:14:44.580 Church, that's where her family went to church. They said, we are devastated by the news of the tragic

00:14:48.500 death of Laken Riley. Laken's family are active members of our church community. Our prayers are with

00:14:52.220 them. Our prayers should be with them, too. Absolutely pray for her family. I mean,

00:14:56.400 I cannot imagine the pain of losing a child. I cannot imagine the pain. There's got to be,

00:15:06.020 honestly, no worse pain in the world. And so pray for her parents. Pray for her friends. Pray for

00:15:12.640 this community that God would somehow be glorified through this. And it sounds like she was a believer,

00:15:18.260 and so she is fully healed, and she is with Jesus, and she is happier and more satisfied and more

00:15:24.760 joyful than we could ever even imagine. She is not missing what is happening here on earth. So in

00:15:30.540 that, we can rejoice and that we will all, all of us who are believers will see her one day, and we can

00:15:36.180 absolutely thank the Lord for that. But we still mourn her death here. I mean, Jesus wept at the death

00:15:44.440 of Lazarus, and no one knows more than Jesus the beauty and the glory of eternity in heaven. So it is

00:15:52.960 right and normal for us to be sad about death. Death is and will always feel unnatural to us because it

00:16:01.500 was not supposed to be this way. It is because of the fall that we have to endure the sadness and the

00:16:06.640 tragedy and the separation that physical death causes. And so it is not only right for us to mourn for

00:16:13.860 those reasons, but it is also right for us to be angered because this was a preventable murder.

00:16:20.320 Let us remember this, is that every single crime, every instance of manslaughter, rape, assault,

00:16:29.320 theft, and murder committed by an illegal alien is preventable. Not every single crime is preventable, 0.52

00:16:36.740 although I think a lot of crimes could be better deterred than they are right now just by enforcing

00:16:42.520 the law swiftly and consistently and harshly when called for. But every single crime committed by an

00:16:50.840 illegal alien is preventable by simply enforcing immigration law the way that so many other 1.00

00:16:59.260 countries do. We like to act like this is some complex, complicated, nuanced, gray, impossible issue.

00:17:08.640 The fact of the matter is we do not have political leaders on the right or the left with the will to

00:17:15.000 do what needs to be done. Republicans theoretically are better on this than Democrats, but really what

00:17:22.800 have they accomplished? What have they accomplished when it comes to deportations? What have they

00:17:28.100 accomplished in protecting women like Lake and Riley from the predation of illegal aliens who are coming

00:17:35.280 from places that quite frankly are run by anarchy? We cannot expect people like this. I'm not talking

00:17:42.520 about every illegal alien. I'm certainly not talking about all immigrants by any means, but we cannot 1.00

00:17:48.180 expect people like this who were very likely criminals back home and who lived in a world of anarchy that was

00:17:57.400 run by corruption and crime to come here and all of a sudden become freedom-loving, peaceful,

00:18:02.040 productive citizens. It's just not going to happen. I'm sorry. It's just not. I think that we believe that they're just

00:18:10.640 going to assimilate because everyone is basically the same and has like the same goals and values. That's just not

00:18:17.040 true. Not every culture is the same. Not every country shares the same values. Not all people are the same. Not all people

00:18:23.080 want the same things. Not all people are motivated in the same way. Not everyone coming here is just looking for a

00:18:28.160 better life. They're coming here to mooch off of the most productive and responsible and best citizens 1.00

00:18:33.460 among us. I mean, this is what happens, not just with illegal immigration, but also just with social

00:18:41.040 justice in general. The very best people in our society, like Lake and Riley, are forced to sacrifice

00:18:47.860 themselves for the very worst people in our society. People like Ibarra. That's what social justice is. 0.99

00:18:54.660 That's what social justice policy in action looks like. It means the very worst, the most criminal

00:19:00.360 people in society sacrificing the most responsible and the best people in our society. That's exactly

00:19:07.920 what happens with illegal immigration in general as well. So what could have been done specifically

00:19:13.840 to prevent this? How in the world did this happen? How did this person get over the border to New York

00:19:20.980 city to Athens and was able to commit this horrendous crime and to murder this young woman? Did the

00:19:29.720 officials, not just in Athens, but in Georgia, did they really do what they needed to do to protect

00:19:35.540 its people? We'll get into that in just a second. All right. So this is what ICE has to say.

00:19:53.600 They confirmed the U.S. Customs and Border Protection first arrested Ibarra on September 8th,

00:19:58.300 2022, after he illegally entered the U.S. near El Paso. But he was paroled and released for further

00:20:04.300 processing, apparently because they didn't have enough room. Now, whose fault is that? Whose fault

00:20:10.280 is that? Who gave the incentives to these aliens to cross the border, first of all? And why were 0.50

00:20:20.060 these detention centers so over flooded with these people who have been incentivized to come here? And

00:20:26.040 then why was the policy for someone like this to just be released into the interior of the United

00:20:33.060 States without any further processing whatsoever for him to commit a series of heinous crimes? Whose

00:20:42.860 fault is that? I mean, it's probably a lot of people's fault, but ultimately it's Biden's fault.

00:20:48.400 Ultimately, it's Mayorkas' fault. I mean, they have done everything possible to encourage the 1.00

00:20:53.980 immigration of the world's worst people, not just from South America, not just from Mexico, 1.00

00:20:59.400 also from China, also from the Middle East. They're coming here, not for a better life, guys, 1.00

00:21:07.560 okay? They're not asylum seekers. They're not refugees. You know, there's a legal process

00:21:12.820 that you go through to be a refugee or to be an asylum seeker, right? And if you truly are seeking

00:21:20.480 refuge, if you truly are seeking asylum, you're going to go to the next safest country. 0.97

00:21:26.780 So if you're in the Middle East or you're in China, America is not the next safest country. 0.51

00:21:31.840 If you're in a country like Georgia, America is not the next safest country. If you are really 0.98

00:21:37.380 looking for refuge and asylum, you do not come through Mexico to the southern border. That is

00:21:43.600 not the safest thing to do. No, but they're coming to America because they see our leadership and our

00:21:49.700 leadership says we're not going to do anything about this. You can come in and you can mooch off

00:21:54.980 everyone else. You can get on welfare. You can commit horrible crimes. You'll be released from

00:22:01.300 prison. You'll get to bop around to all these different sanctuary cities. You'll get to live

00:22:05.360 it up. And you know what I think really just shows this, represents this? We'll put this picture up on

00:22:10.920 the screen. I saw this side-by-side photo of when Ibarra was originally arrested back in 2022,

00:22:20.580 and then what he looks like today. So you can see what he looked like in 2022. You see what he looks

00:22:27.940 like today. Look how fat he has gotten. And I'm not just trying, I'm not just like making a superficial

00:22:34.380 slide against him. I'm not just trying to offend him. But this is what you get to do. This is what

00:22:41.140 you get to do if you're from Venezuela or you're from another country. You get to cross 0.99

00:22:45.700 into the United States illegally, and you get to get fat. You get to take the resources and take 0.80

00:22:57.820 the spoils of everyone else's hard work. And you get to pillage this country without producing

00:23:07.040 anything, without paying any taxes. The fact that we can have an illegal alien here who gets fat 1.00

00:23:15.080 after being here for two years and then takes his final bow by murdering a 22-year-old nursing 0.86

00:23:22.880 student. I mean, are we even a country at this point? Are we even a country at this point? In order

00:23:28.820 to be a country, you have to have sovereignty. That is definitionally what it means to be a country.

00:23:35.440 And in order to have sovereignty, you have to have parameters. You have to have a definition,

00:23:39.280 right? Like you are not a country. You do not have sovereignty if you can't even define

00:23:43.960 where the country is on the map. And at this point, I'm not even sure that the lines, the parameters

00:23:51.780 of the United States really mean anything. They're completely flexible and they're completely porous.

00:23:58.220 So that's what happens. That's what happened with this young man who has now become a murderer.

00:24:05.520 So he was arrested, as I said, last October. He was released. According to News Nation correspondent,

00:24:12.020 Ali Bradley, Diego Ibarra entered the country illegally twice, actually. So it wasn't just

00:24:20.000 that one time. And you know, I was talking to one of you on Instagram and you are a Venezuelan

00:24:27.520 immigrant here legally and you have family back home in Venezuela. And I've heard this from

00:24:33.600 several immigrants from Venezuela here who say that their family back in Venezuela are actually kind

00:24:41.420 of happy about the immigration situation here in the United States because the streets are safer in

00:24:46.840 Venezuela than they are here. Because what is Maduro doing? He is sending all of the violent criminals

00:24:53.920 in Venezuela to the U.S. border. So that's what's going on here. This is according to the Western

00:25:00.860 Journal. The Department of Homeland Security has reportedly verified that the Venezuelan government

00:25:04.680 is releasing violent criminals from its prisons and sending them to the United States. Randy Clark,

00:25:10.280 a 32-year veteran of Border Patrol, wrote a piece for Breitbart detailing a then-recent DHS intelligence

00:25:16.720 report received by the Border Patrol instructing agents to look for Venezuelan inmates. The report

00:25:21.960 indicated that Maduro was purposely freeing inmates, though the report did not specify that the release

00:25:28.060 could be a purposeful geopolitical move specifically intended to impact U.S. national security. Well,

00:25:35.720 what does it matter? I mean, it is obviously impacting security. This was apparently confirmed in 2022.

00:25:43.820 The DHS confirmed that the Venezuelan government is emptying its prisons and sending, again, the worst 0.99

00:25:50.440 of the worst people to the United States. Is that what happened here? Not totally sure. Back in 2022,

00:25:57.840 Bill Malugan, I would say that he is the foremost reporter of what's going on at the border. He's with Fox News.

00:26:03.740 He reported a couple of years ago, good morning from Eagle Pass, Texas, where another large group of

00:26:08.540 approximately 200 plus migrants just crossed illegally onto private property. Almost all of

00:26:14.100 them are single adults, mostly from Venezuela. Somebody hung a Venezuelan flag on the barbed wire fence

00:26:19.860 built by Texas here. Isn't it interesting? Like, you see this with a lot of these communities. They come

00:26:27.080 here and they still have way more pride for their home country that they apparently had to flee because

00:26:33.100 of danger and destitution than they do for America, the country to which they should be extremely

00:26:41.320 grateful. And so I just want to like, I just want to say something that I know is controversial.

00:26:48.320 In addition to the controversial statements that I've already made about the fact that there are

00:26:53.440 different cultures in the world. There are different kinds of individuals. Not all cultures are the

00:26:57.920 same. Not all cultures are equally good. Not all cultural practices are equally moral. Not all 0.97

00:27:05.060 people have the same values. Not all people have the same goals. This kind of like neocon, I would call it,

00:27:10.760 or maybe neoliberal mentality of everyone in the world has the same like burning desire for freedom.

00:27:17.180 I once believed that. And we're all essentially the same. Yes, we are all made in the image of God.

00:27:22.440 That's true. We are all equally dead and stand apart from Christ. That's true. But cultures are 0.88

00:27:27.240 different. America is unique. Western civilization is uniquely Christian with uniquely Christian values,

00:27:36.460 like the dignity of human beings, like the right to private property, like the idea of innate rights

00:27:46.300 coming from God. Most people in the world and throughout history have no concept of any of

00:27:52.380 those things. And so here is the, here's the controversial point that I am going to make to

00:27:58.040 build on that. People of different nationalities and different cultures and different ethnicities

00:28:05.340 and different kinds of backgrounds cannot have never lived together peacefully for long without

00:28:15.200 some kind of transcendent value system. Transcendent common belief system. It just has never happened.

00:28:29.000 It's never, ever happened. Diversity for diversity's sake has never worked. It always ends in discord. It

00:28:37.960 always ends in bloodshed. It always ends in tribalism. This pie in the sky idea that I think a lot of

00:28:44.660 Christians have, that, oh, we should, we can be like this multicultural mosaic and all live in peace

00:28:53.640 without like the transcendent unity of the gospel. No, that's impossible. The only place that that is

00:29:00.120 going to be possible is in the new heaven and the new earth when we are all united under the reign of

00:29:05.740 Jesus. And it has been possible in the past in the United States because of this uniting transcendent

00:29:11.640 idea that we are made in the image of God first. We all have equality there. We all are of equal value.

00:29:20.620 And then we're all Americans. But now we don't have those uniting values anymore. So diversity is not

00:29:26.220 only not our strength, it's actually our weakness now because we're just assuming that everyone who

00:29:31.520 comes here wants to assimilate and shares ultimately our same values. They don't. Many don't. A lot do.

00:29:37.620 Those, of course, I think who come here legally, they're some of the best people in the world.

00:29:42.280 Some of the best and godliest people in my life have immigrated from places like Africa. They came

00:29:46.800 here illegally. They did it the right way. They care so much about American freedom and Christian

00:29:51.700 values and all of that. So this is not an indictment of immigrants in general. I'm just saying we can't 1.00

00:29:58.540 assume that everyone who comes here wants the same things that we want. And we just have to reckon

00:30:04.860 with that. That is part of human nature. That is part of human history. And so America has every

00:30:11.320 right to retain a national identity, just as Zimbabwe does, just as Mexico does, just as Venezuela

00:30:18.280 does, just as Canada does. Every single country has that right. But at this point, I'll just ask again,

00:30:25.920 like, are we even a country? Do we even have a shared national identity? Like, what does it even mean

00:30:32.720 to be an American at this point? When really all we are is, I don't know, a tax farm for our elites

00:30:45.840 to use our hard-earned money to spend it on their pet projects, both here and abroad, a place where

00:30:53.300 some of the worst criminals in the world can come and strip us of our resources? Is that what it means

00:30:58.780 to be an American now? And if you even talk about an American identity, you're told that some kind

00:31:04.180 of racist dog whistle, everyone else in the world gets to be patriotic and care about what it means

00:31:10.780 to be a Kenyan or what it means to be Japanese or what it means to be Chinese. But if you talk about

00:31:17.660 what it actually means to be an American, all of a sudden, you're an evil bigot. And I think that's 0.60

00:31:24.120 not only illogical, I think it's immoral. And quite frankly, I think it's unbiblical. I think 0.94

00:31:28.960 God gave us borders. He gave us the idea of countries. He gave us the idea of languages.

00:31:33.520 He created human beings. Yes, again, all made in his image, but we are different and we need order.

00:31:40.340 We don't function in chaos well. And this murder is a consequence of that chaos. It's a consequence

00:31:46.120 of that anarchy. It is a consequence of disorder. It is a consequence of borderlessness,

00:31:51.760 which is wicked, which is cruel. It's not empathetic. It's not kind. It's not compassionate.

00:31:56.420 It actually kills. It kills. Brian Kemp, he is the governor of Georgia. And I like Brian Kemp. I've

00:32:05.160 had him on the show before. Good family. I'm sure he loves the country. I'm sure he loves the state of

00:32:10.360 Georgia. So he wrote a strongly worded letter to President Biden saying your actions and those of

00:32:19.120 your administration have resulted in every state and the country experiencing the disastrous impacts

00:32:24.180 of an unsecured U.S. southern border. More than nine million illegal immigrants, he says,

00:32:29.380 have crossed the border since you took office. And he talks about some of the terrible consequences

00:32:33.480 of that. And then he talks about Lakin Riley's murder. And he is basically asking, you know,

00:32:44.060 President Biden to do his job. He says, frankly, Mr. President, your continued silence in response to

00:32:47.820 these reasonable requests is outrageous. The American people deserve to know who is illegally 0.99

00:32:51.900 entering our country due to your administration's failures and what risks and challenges every state

00:32:56.860 must now face. He asks some questions. Why was my administration not made aware of the asylum

00:33:01.380 claims and subsequent release of an illegal resident who presented fraudulent identification?

00:33:06.100 He is talking about Ibarra. What is the current immigration status of Jose Antonio Ibarra?

00:33:11.540 Why has this information not been relayed to my administration? Of course,

00:33:14.920 we already know the answers to that. And fine. These are reasonable, reasonable questions. I am

00:33:20.800 just over strongly worded letters. I'm over it. That's what Republicans love to do. They love

00:33:26.400 strongly worded letters. They love to have those fiery moments in the congressional hearing so that

00:33:31.080 they can go viral. But what's actually being done? I'll tell you what should be done.

00:33:37.500 Brian Kemp needs to make good on his campaign promise to arrest illegal aliens and to bust them out. 1.00

00:33:44.920 Let me play you. Sot one, which is from Brian Kemp's election campaign several years ago.

00:33:53.920 Kate Steinle, Edwin Jackson and the Cannon family, all killed by illegal immigrants. 1.00

00:33:59.360 Donald Trump is right. We must secure the border and end sanctuary cities.

00:34:04.140 As Secretary of State, Brian Kemp fought Obama twice and won to stop illegal immigrants from voting.

00:34:09.320 I'll do the same as your governor. I'll enforce the ban on sanctuary cities and track and immediately 1.00

00:34:15.220 deport all criminal aliens so our kids don't become the next victims.

00:34:20.880 I have a genuine question. Is that being done? That's not rhetorical. I really want to know,

00:34:27.500 like, is that being done? Is that what is happening in the state of Georgia? Is he busing the illegal 0.74

00:34:35.640 immigrants out? Now, I would love them to be flown out back to Venezuela, but we can at least do what 1.00

00:34:43.780 DeSantis and what Abbott did, send them up to the locales that voted to be sanctuary cities.

00:34:51.260 You can send them all to Martha's Vineyard. You can send them all to New York City. But as we know,

00:34:56.860 somehow these illegal aliens are getting from one sanctuary city to the other. And I want to know 0.96

00:35:04.160 how. How is that happening? What NGO is helping them travel? Because it's just a little random,

00:35:11.240 right? It's a little random for someone like Ibarra to be in New York City, to be arrested and to come

00:35:15.800 to Athens, Georgia. That's random. Unless someone is telling him, hey, here are the cities available to

00:35:22.920 you that have sanctuary policies that if you get in trouble again, you won't be deported. You won't

00:35:27.560 be arrested by ICE. I'm assuming that's what's happening. I'm assuming that there is some subversive

00:35:33.860 NGO that is, I'm sure, financially motivated by the federal government to protect these aliens. We

00:35:41.300 know that's what's happening at the border. Many times these NGOs are picking them up. They're taking

00:35:45.100 them to these sanctuary cities. And they have no culpability whatsoever when these migrants,

00:35:50.720 when these aliens commit these heinous crimes. So I would just say, Governor Kemp, like, I'm a fan 1.00

00:35:57.360 of a lot of what you've done. I appreciate your statement. Let's do something. Okay? Let's do

00:36:03.940 something. Like, do you want another Lake and Riley? Do you want this to happen again? Why are there any

00:36:11.000 sanctuary cities in Georgia at all under your watch? Should not every punishment be employed

00:36:17.920 to these three sanctuary areas to ensure that they cannot have any sanctuary policies?

00:36:27.560 Like, what can be done? Surely there is a way to crack down on them, to remove some sort of funding

00:36:33.260 and support, to put the pressure on them to ensure that they are complying with ICE. And I would just

00:36:39.600 encourage you, those of you who live in Athens-Clarke County, I believe that your representative

00:36:47.000 is Mike Collins. I believe that that's his name. Bree can fact check that for me to make sure that I

00:36:51.980 have that correct. But I would reach out to him. I mean, he's a Republican, and he's going to support

00:36:57.500 what you have to say, but he needs to hear your voice. The pressure needs to be on him. The pressure

00:37:01.940 needs to be on Governor Kemp to do something. The pressure needs to be on local officials. And even

00:37:06.540 though she was not a UGA student, UGA holds a lot of power in Athens. If I were a donor to Georgia,

00:37:13.880 I would get together with my other billionaire buddies, and I would say, look, not another dollar

00:37:19.780 to UGA until Athens-Clarke County enforces the law. Enforces the law when it comes to immigration,

00:37:26.480 enforces the law when it comes to crime. This should have happened a long time ago.

00:37:31.020 Like, we saw the influence that these millionaires and billionaires have

00:37:34.400 over the universities like Harvard and the other Ivy Leagues when these very rich donors said,

00:37:40.940 you know what, I'm not going to donate to you anymore if you continue to fan the flames of

00:37:44.640 anti-Semitism on your campus. So that means that these millionaires, they could have leveraged their

00:37:51.460 influence a long time ago to make these universities comply with sanity and morality. So I'm saying if you

00:37:58.620 are a donor to UGA, you get with your rich buddies and you say not another dollar to UGA until something

00:38:06.160 is done about these policies. And I understand the University of Georgia is not making these policies,

00:38:11.140 but the University of Georgia has power. Without the University of Georgia, Athens is nothing.

00:38:16.160 These politicians are nothing. And I know Athens is supported by a lot of liberal,

00:38:21.360 brainless professors and students. But money talks, money talks. And there are a lot of rich, 0.78

00:38:29.920 conservative people that live in and around Athens. I would also say if you are a parent,

00:38:35.120 and I know you want to send your kids to UGA, I know you do because you went to UGA,

00:38:40.060 you're a UGA family. You would never want your kids to go somewhere else. I get that. I totally do.

00:38:47.500 I would say do not send your kids to UGA or to any university that's in a city that is not going

00:38:54.560 to enforce the law for your kids' safety, but also just for principal. And you let them know

00:39:00.500 why you are not sending your kids to Athens, Georgia, why you will not support the university.

00:39:06.280 You will not support Athens, Clark County. Defund sanctuary cities. Defund every district

00:39:12.560 that refuses to enforce the law. Defund social justice. That's what I'm asking you to do for 0.77

00:39:18.360 the sake of people like Lake and Riley. For the sake of potential innocent victims. This will keep

00:39:26.540 happening until you use your money, until you use your voice, until you raise a respectful ruckus

00:39:33.620 on this issue. And it's really hopeless and discouraging. It really is because people have

00:39:39.620 been sounding the alarm about the dangers of illegal immigration for years and years. So

00:39:43.920 I'm not so deluded to think that me talking about it on my podcast or even some people out there

00:39:49.660 sounding the alarm about it, that that's going to make the major difference. But if you can just do

00:39:54.340 what you can with the resources and the platform that God has given you, whether that's big or whether

00:40:00.540 that's small, then maybe we can. Maybe you can just make a difference in Athens. Maybe you can just

00:40:05.940 make a difference in Georgia. But until we do something, there will continue to be more Lake

00:40:10.940 and Riley's. There will continue to be more Molly Tibbetts's. There will continue to be more Kate

00:40:15.900 Steinleys. These are all young women in the past few years that have been violently murdered by men who

00:40:22.580 should have never been here. Young women in the prime of their lives. Their lives robbed from them

00:40:30.400 by people who should have not been here. And the blood is on the hands of every politician left and

00:40:39.040 right who refuses to do something. People like it to be a campaign issue. Republicans love to keep

00:40:47.780 this a problem so they can get reelected and run on this. Democrats, of course, are ideologically,

00:40:53.360 demographically motivated to let this problem linger because these people eventually are going to turn

00:40:58.860 into voters. And they like the chaos and the anarchy that it causes. It is. I know people are

00:41:06.000 like, oh, the great replacement theory. It's so scary. I mean, Democrats talk about all the time

00:41:10.340 that demographic demographics is destiny, that that is what is going to change the future of 1.00

00:41:16.080 our country is importing voters that don't share the same Christian freedom loving values that you and

00:41:24.140 I have. I mean, it's a long game strategy and it's brilliant when you think about it. And so

00:41:27.880 they don't really care if there's some innocent bloodshed in the meantime. It's all for the

00:41:33.920 greater good. Progressive tyranny, of course. So that's what's going on here. And I'm just so sad.

00:41:42.020 I'm just I'm so sad. I'm so sad for her friends. I'm so sad for the potential victims, for the future

00:41:49.100 victims. They're inevitable. Like we have a record number of illegal crossings, terrorists, rapists,

00:41:58.280 traffickers coming in over the border, and very few people are doing anything about it. Man, pray for

00:42:06.480 our country. Pray for God's mercy and guidance and like some kind of just like miraculous conviction

00:42:12.800 in the hearts and minds of the politicians who have the power to do something but couldn't. It is

00:42:21.080 representative Mike Collins, by the way. He does represent Athens-Clarke County. So I would say

00:42:27.480 he's the person to reach out to and as well as Governor Kemp's office. Where are the buses, Governor

00:42:35.420 Kemp? Where are the buses? Let's do what you said that you were going to do, what you ran on.

00:42:42.940 All right. That's it on that story. And of course, I talked about it a lot longer than I was going to,

00:42:47.860 but we are going to get into these these other stories, even if it's a longer episode,

00:42:52.780 because I just got to cover them. Too much going on.

00:43:05.420 Okay. Everything that I just said there would be flagged by the good people at MSNBC and elsewhere

00:43:15.200 as so-called Christian nationalism. I'm using big scare quotes for those who are just listening to

00:43:23.440 this. And as we've talked about many times, this is something that is very loosely defined,

00:43:29.400 but is consistently used as a mallet to bludgeon only conservative Christians. Remember, it's not

00:43:36.920 Christian nationalism if, say, a predominantly Black church is standing up there and saying that

00:43:44.040 the Holy Spirit is using Black magic to help Fannie Willis in her trial. It's not Christian nationalism 0.80

00:43:51.100 if Democrat politicians are visiting these predominantly Black churches and saying,

00:43:55.400 vote for us. God wants you to vote for us. God wants you to give me power. God has given me

00:44:01.400 power. And if you give me the power that God has ordained to me, I'm going to do X, Y, Z for you.

00:44:06.920 That apparently is not Christian nationalism. But if a conservative says, hey, our rights come from God,

00:44:14.500 that is, by the way, what the founder said, that we were endowed with certain inalienable rights by

00:44:19.260 our creator. That's the Declaration of Independence. If you say, hey, I believe that it's wrong

00:44:24.500 to kill babies. It's wrong for anyone to kill a baby in or outside of the womb. And yes,

00:44:29.960 my belief that we are made in God's image, my belief in Psalm 139 that does motivate that.

00:44:35.580 If you have a Christian understanding of the world and you bring that into the public sphere and how

00:44:41.540 you work and how you speak and how you vote, we are told that that is scary, dangerous Christian

00:44:47.260 nationalism, that that is anti-democratic. Only if you are a conservative Christian, 0.60

00:44:51.840 if your Christian beliefs erroneously motivate you to vote for Democrats, to vote for abortion,

00:44:58.020 to vote for anti-Christian ideals, then that's all well and good. Here is Heidi 1.00

00:45:04.420 Prisabila. I'm not totally sure. Is that right, Brie Prisabila? She's on MSNBC. Brie doesn't know.

00:45:13.000 I don't know either. She went viral on Thursday when she was asked about the infusion of Christian

00:45:17.860 nationalism in Congress following the appointment of Mike Johnson, his House Speaker. Mike Johnson,

00:45:22.880 who is the House Speaker. He is, I wouldn't even say he's like all that conservative of a Christian.

00:45:29.380 Like he was kind of repeating some BLM talking points a few years ago, but he has definitely

00:45:34.600 talked about being an evangelical Christian and believing a lot of the things that you and I do.

00:45:40.220 And I really appreciate how outspoken he has been about those things. And I totally agree with him

00:45:45.540 on a lot of the things that he says. But apparently this is, for the first time in all of history,

00:45:51.760 in all of the history of America, very problematic and scary and tyrannical. So here is what Heidi

00:45:57.840 said on MSNBC just a few days ago. The one thing that unites all of them, because there's many

00:46:03.460 different groups orbiting Trump, but the thing that unites them as Christian nationalists,

00:46:08.260 not Christians, by the way, because Christian nationalists is very different,

00:46:11.720 is that they believe that our rights as Americans, as all human beings, don't come from any earthly

00:46:18.360 authority. They don't come from Congress. They don't come from the Supreme Court. They come from God.

00:46:22.820 Oh my gosh, that is so radical. That is so extreme. That is some new modern idea that we just came up with.

00:46:34.300 That it's brand new information in the words of Phoebe. Let me remind you of what the Declaration

00:46:43.260 of Independence says. Let me just read it verbatim for you. We hold these truths to be self-evident,

00:46:50.360 the founder said, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain

00:46:57.980 unalienable rights. Among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Now, Ms. Heidi is a

00:47:07.740 Polk Award winner. She is a Pulitzer finalist. She is Politico's national investigative correspondent.

00:47:16.860 And she is apparently a smart person. She is apparently an intellectual, somewhat of a historian.

00:47:25.260 And she says the scary part of Christian nationalists is that we believe our rights come from God. Yeah,

00:47:34.080 that's why any of us are here in the United States. The United States does not exist apart from that

00:47:41.300 idea. So if that idea that our rights come from God is Christian nationalist, then the founders were

00:47:49.420 Christian nationalists and America is a Christian nationalist nation. Is that what you are admitting,

00:47:56.060 Heidi? Is that what you are saying? The truth is, the idea that our rights come from God is why

00:48:04.060 she is allowed to say stupid things like that legally. Because we have the inherent right, the founders 0.98

00:48:11.800 believe, to free speech. And to worship who we want to worship. And within some parameters, how we want

00:48:19.680 to worship. We have the right to defend ourselves. We have the right to property. We have the right,

00:48:25.980 first and foremost, to life. Because without the right to life, neither liberty nor happiness exist.

00:48:32.340 And the reason why all of these have to come from God is because if they come from man or they come

00:48:39.600 from government, then they're completely arbitrary. They're no longer innate. They no longer really

00:48:46.540 belong to us. They belong to the government. And therefore, the government, if they are the giver of

00:48:51.900 those rights, the arbiter of those rights, they then have the authority, the power to give them or to

00:48:59.860 take them away as they see fit. But we believe, the founders believed, this was core to the creation

00:49:07.860 of America. That only God, the author, has the authority to give us our rights. And therefore,

00:49:16.500 they cannot be arbitrarily given or taken away. That is core to what America is. But again, going back to

00:49:26.700 our previous conversation, liberals don't even believe in an American identity. They resent

00:49:31.960 the Constitution. They resent our founding. They hate our founders. They think it's all really null and

00:49:40.160 void. And that progressives should have totalitarian control over everything. And then and only then can we

00:49:47.980 have this beautiful, wonderful, empathy-filled nation, this multi-ethnic coalition where everyone

00:49:56.280 just gets along. And it is anti-human nature. It is anti-biblical. It is anti-truth. It is absolutely

00:50:05.980 absurd. And this is why progressivism fails. This is why the cities run by progressivism, who are like

00:50:12.300 pro-legalizing drugs, pro-legalizing homelessness, pro-legalizing crime and theft and all of these

00:50:20.200 things. This is why they fail. It's why they're running to the ground. Because progressivism doesn't

00:50:25.080 understand human nature. Because it doesn't understand where human beings come from. If you

00:50:29.780 don't understand or believe in its creator, you can't really understand the creation. And that's why

00:50:35.140 progressives just don't rule well. They don't dictate well. And so that's where they're coming

00:50:41.880 from. And it's a scary place because this lumps every single person into the scary category of

00:50:49.220 Christian nationalism, which the intelligence community has already dubbed a terroristic threat, 0.97

00:50:56.140 which of course is ridiculous. That's not where the threat of violence is coming from. That's not where 0.97

00:51:00.640 the threat of terrorism is coming from. But they want to criminalize you for basic Christian 0.94

00:51:04.540 beliefs. The only kind of Christian that they think is okay is the kind of Christian that is 1.00

00:51:08.980 completely neutered, that may believe some things in their home about marriage and sin and abortion

00:51:17.580 and all of that, but you can't actually represent those in the public sphere. It is not just anti-Christian.

00:51:23.920 It is completely and totally anti-American. Do not be intimidated by this. Don't be intimidated by the lie

00:51:31.420 that you and only you, conservative Christian, cannot represent your beliefs in the public sphere.

00:51:37.820 Everyone else gets to. An atheist gets to vote in accordance with their faith, and they do absolutely 0.90

00:51:43.720 have a faith. Every flavor of progressive, agnostic, mainline Protestant, they all get to vote in accordance

00:51:55.200 with their worldview. Progressivism in itself is a religion. They all get to vote on this completely crazy,

00:52:03.740 fantastical, quasi-religious belief that a man can become a woman. That's fine for them to bring their subjective

00:52:11.100 beliefs into the public sphere, but when you, conservative Christian, do it, that's when you're a terroristic threat. 0.96

00:52:16.640 Yeah, I mean, it's so on the nose when you look throughout history of, for example, Soviet Russia

00:52:22.540 or Mao's China. It is so obvious what they're trying to do, but you can't be intimidated by it.

00:52:28.360 Like, of course, I'm not saying that you embrace the extreme examples of what they're talking about

00:52:34.420 that might actually be, you know, violent and terrible and all of that, but continue to be a Christian 1.00

00:52:38.980 out loud. Be a Christian in how you vote and how you talk and the things that you do and how you work

00:52:43.520 and how you enter into the public square. Absolutely. They're trying to intimidate you

00:52:48.700 into complacency, into apathy, into silence, and you just can't do that. You just can't do it. Like,

00:52:54.080 lives depend upon it. Really, they do. I mean, we are voting against, we are standing against things

00:53:00.560 like child sacrifice, which the church has always done. The church has always, everywhere we have

00:53:06.480 infiltrated, every single society that we have stepped into, we have put an end to child sacrifice.

00:53:11.000 We have said no more. And the Democrat Party today stands for child sacrifice, the butchering of

00:53:16.800 children's bodies in and outside of the womb, whether it's through quote-unquote gender affirmation

00:53:21.280 or abortion. The least we can do as the church is what the church has always done, stood against

00:53:25.460 child sacrifice. And you are the last barrier between them and total control and total utter depravity.

00:53:36.940 So don't be intimidated by this stupidity. It is stupidity, but it's dangerous stupidity because 1.00

00:53:41.620 these people not only have a voice, but they also have influence and they are influencing what the 1.00

00:53:49.120 government implements as far as policy goes and what they think about us and what the intelligence

00:53:56.800 community is planning to do. I'm sure in an election year when it comes to those of us who want

00:54:02.880 to raise our voice about things like immigration or freedom of religion or abortion, whatever it is,

00:54:08.620 we've already seen what they are doing in arresting peaceful pro-life protesters. Scary times. I would

00:54:15.960 say not only should we be reading the Bible on a daily basis, make sure that we are absolutely and

00:54:20.620 totally equipped with God's word. But if you can read some Live Not By Lies, if you can read some

00:54:28.040 Soltzenheidsen, always get the pronunciation a little wonky. But if you can read a little bit

00:54:34.500 of Soviet Russia and be prepared to not only live not by lies yourself, but don't let the lie triumph 0.60

00:54:44.320 or be perpetuated through you. What can we only do? What can we only do? The next right thing in faith

00:54:51.860 with excellence and for the glory of God. Sometimes it's very public and loud. Sometimes it's very private

00:54:55.840 and quiet. Sometimes it's just prayer. Sometimes it's just evangelism. Sometimes it's just changing

00:55:00.260 diapers. But sometimes it's speaking up. Sometimes it is calling your senator. Sometimes it's raising a

00:55:06.700 respectful and loud and relentless and persistent ruckus because lives are on the line. Politics

00:55:13.960 matter because policy matters because people matter. Politics affects policy. Policy affects people. And

00:55:18.480 people matter. Christians know that better than anyone. Okay. All right. That's all we got on those

00:55:25.280 two things. We are going to talk about. Just one more thing. End on a lighter note. We're going to end

00:55:30.340 on a lighter note. All right. Comedian Shane Gillis hosted Saturday Night Live over the weekend and he

00:55:47.940 caused a stir. SNL gave a platform to a guy that they had to fire several years ago because people had dug

00:55:55.260 up some jokes that he made in the past that they called insensitive and misogynist. And I think

00:56:00.800 racist was probably one of the critiques leveled against him. Now, I don't really I'm not familiar

00:56:06.640 with Shane Gillis, so I'm not defending him. I've seen a few of his things and a few of his jokes on

00:56:11.860 my Discover page on Instagram. And it's been funny. It's not your typical like progressive stuff. And so I

00:56:18.700 always appreciate people willing to go against the grain. I'm not saying he is like a Christian or

00:56:23.640 conservative, but there is something to be said about people who are willing to go against the

00:56:31.300 progressive zeitgeist. And so he came back after being fired from SNL in 2019. He came back to host

00:56:39.520 the show. So I'm sure he felt like there was some vindication there. And he made a couple jokes that

00:56:46.120 apparently didn't really land that well with SNL's more left leaning audience. And so here is

00:56:53.860 Sot 3. My mom asked me, she's like, when did we stop being best friends? And she's right. We used

00:57:01.780 to be best friends. You remember that when you were a little boy and you like you loved your mom and you

00:57:05.380 thought she was the cool. You remember when you were gay? You remember when you were just a gay little 0.62

00:57:09.960 boy? Every little boy is just their mom's gay best friend. There's literally zero difference. 0.97

00:57:16.000 Okay, so apparently the audience that was present actually did like that joke. But the chatter online

00:57:22.480 was that, oh my gosh, this is a homophobic, bad gay joke. He also has a bit about Down syndrome 0.98

00:57:28.160 that he has told several times. I've heard it and he shared it on here. Of course, some people called it

00:57:33.820 ableist and some people said, oh, it's all in good fun. He's not actually demeaning this group of

00:57:38.220 people. But here is his joke about Down syndrome. Yeah, you can always tell who's never been around

00:57:43.760 Down syndrome when you bring it up. Like if I tell people, if I'm like, yeah, I have family members

00:57:47.320 with Down syndrome. People that have never been around it are always like, oh, like it's like it's

00:57:52.700 the end of the world. Like, oh, are they okay? Are they doing it? It's like they're doing better than

00:57:56.720 everybody I know. They're the only ones having a good time pretty consistently. They're not worried about

00:58:02.860 the election. They're having a good time. He he tells a joke about his his uncle, Uncle Danny,

00:58:12.860 I think, who has Down syndrome. And I'll just go ahead and tell the like maybe one of the most

00:58:19.200 controversial jokes that he has. I'm not going to tell like he tells it, but he does a crossover of

00:58:25.160 gay joke and a Down syndrome joke. And he's like, you know, they say that gay isn't a choice, 0.91

00:58:29.900 but all the guys I know that can't think love women. He's talking about Down syndrome. I'm not

00:58:37.840 I am not supporting his joke. I am just saying that is one of the controversial jokes that he

00:58:46.120 tells. And it is. I mean, it's funny. It's funny. I'm not saying that we should sign off on like every

00:58:51.080 bit of morality that a comedian represents, but it's a funny joke. It's kind of a clever joke.

00:58:56.440 Um, he also joked about there was a cracker joke. I haven't heard this one. And apparently he got a

00:59:03.900 big applause. So here it is. I'm not saying it's like something I'm looking forward to,

00:59:08.480 but I think it'll be a nice thing for the whole country. I would say when my niece is probably in

00:59:14.020 like fifth, sixth grade out at recess and some white kids out there like, hey, you're not allowed

00:59:19.400 to play with us. You're retarded. And then three black kids come flying out. Now we start wailing on 1.00

00:59:26.100 that cracker. Everyone's going to be like, oh, it's like, it's like a nice moment.

00:59:32.340 Okay, Brie, can you explain the context? Yeah. So right before that, he has described his sister's

00:59:37.440 family and she, they, they adopted three little black boys and then they had a biological child

00:59:43.680 who has Down syndrome. So he's explaining that those, that her three brothers would essentially

00:59:48.640 be beating up the white kids for calling her the R word. So that was the context of that.

00:59:54.640 Okay. And they loved that. The audience loved that one.

00:59:58.120 Oh, okay. Because it was like black people against a white person. Okay. Seemingly. 0.73

01:00:03.280 Yeah. Okay. I know that some people will think that I'm like a fuddy daddy for this. I am like

01:00:08.460 anti-R word. I am so anti-R word. I'm not, I know people call it like politically correct. I just 0.61

01:00:15.820 really hate it. I hate the R word. I just do. You don't have to agree with me on that. 0.62

01:00:21.960 But it's not like I go around using it. No, I know. I just, I didn't want you to think

01:00:27.000 that I was looking to you to validate me over there, but I just, I hate it. I hate it. I think 0.54

01:00:32.480 that it's so like, I don't know, degrading to a group of wonderful, wonderful people who

01:00:38.740 actually, some of them do suffer from mental retardation. Not everyone with some kind of 0.98

01:00:43.020 special needs is. And that's what I also don't like about it is that everyone with special 1.00

01:00:46.720 needs like autism, down syndrome, whatever it is, they're all kind of like put into that

01:00:52.520 category of mental retardation. And then that like adjective is used to describe the world's 0.96

01:00:57.200 worst things. And I just, I personally just don't like it. So just FYI there, don't love

01:01:04.980 it. Um, the, the use of that word, but I understand that this is an SNL monologue and you know,

01:01:12.380 I do think it says something about SNL that they were willing to have someone on that has

01:01:18.200 maybe a more conservative fan base spree. Again, he's not a conservative. He kind of jokes about,

01:01:24.580 oh, I'm going to be a Republican soon, but I'm not yet. But SNL is so far left that I actually

01:01:30.660 think it's kind of impressive that they had him on.

01:01:34.300 Yeah. I know the, the conversation before this aired, cause they teased it a few weeks in advance

01:01:39.660 and, um, yeah, the, the conservative side was very excited for this episode. Just, I think,

01:01:46.520 because he is willing to say jokes that like other comedians wouldn't. Um, and I don't even

01:01:52.520 think the SNL, the people who produce SNL liked this monologue. You can tell the band behind him

01:01:58.260 is not laughing the entire time.

01:01:59.760 Okay. But apparently they don't laugh. I saw that.

01:02:02.700 Oh, I've seen them laugh before.

01:02:04.340 Oh, really?

01:02:05.100 Yeah.

01:02:05.740 Oh, okay.

01:02:07.340 I'm not a regular watcher.

01:02:08.720 I don't know.

01:02:09.080 Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. I'm sure that they don't share like the same values or even if they

01:02:15.220 do, they had to keep it in, they had to keep it inside. It's controversial. Why do you think SNL

01:02:20.600 is doing this? Why do you think that they're having back on someone that they fired for

01:02:24.300 apparently being racist and homophobic?

01:02:26.180 I think just because he's a big deal now.

01:02:29.340 Yeah.

01:02:29.540 I don't think it's like to make amends or anything. I think he got his Netflix special.

01:02:34.040 That was one of the highest viewed specials on Netflix ever.

01:02:37.540 He's getting another one. Now he's getting a show on Netflix. He's a big deal and people

01:02:42.200 love him. And so I think it was just for views.

01:02:44.780 Yeah.

01:02:46.880 They had Nate Bragazzi recently.

01:02:49.100 Yeah.

01:02:49.340 He's my favorite.

01:02:50.680 Love him.

01:02:51.340 Love, love. He's not, he doesn't talk really like about politics or anything at all. He's just like

01:02:56.720 a clean comedian. He doesn't cuss. He doesn't talk about sex. I, okay. I went to one of his shows a

01:03:03.100 couple of years ago with my husband. I think that I have the biggest crossover with Nate Bragazzi.

01:03:10.160 I mean, it was like, I felt like the biggest celebrity in the world because I went to a

01:03:15.380 Nate Bragazzi show. And I mean, honestly, and this is not how it is, you know, when I go just

01:03:21.920 anywhere, but I mean, there were probably like 30 different people coming up to me like,

01:03:27.740 Allie Beth Stuckey, Allie Beth Stuckey. And I was like, wow, there must just be,

01:03:31.520 it's like the evangelical Southern Christian world. You love ABS and you love Nate Bragazzi.

01:03:39.620 So yeah, that was really fun. And he was hilarious. There are not many things that can

01:03:44.220 make me laugh out loud or like many comedians. Even if I think it's funny, I'll like give like a,

01:03:51.160 but he actually makes me laugh out loud. And his opener did too, but I can't remember his name.

01:03:57.460 So, you know, I appreciate this. I appreciate SNL reaching out.

01:04:01.520 Getting some different kinds of people. Do you follow Theo Vaughn?

01:04:05.800 Yeah.

01:04:06.260 You do?

01:04:06.960 Yeah. He is very out of pocket.

01:04:08.960 He's so out of pocket. I don't even know if he could. Do you think he could host SNL?

01:04:16.120 Like, I can't imagine what a monologue by him would be.

01:04:19.980 I think he could, but I don't, I don't know that they would let him.

01:04:23.080 I think he physically could. That's what I'm saying.

01:04:25.320 Yeah. Yeah.

01:04:26.300 Do you think?

01:04:26.980 Yeah, no, I think he'd just be too unhinged to be honest.

01:04:30.300 You would definitely have to fill the audience with Theo Vaughn fans. You can't fill it with

01:04:35.160 like a bunch of just random New Yorkers or else they're not going to. I just don't know if they're

01:04:40.760 going to get it. Yeah. He's such an interesting person. Yeah, I know.

01:04:44.740 The most interesting person. YouTube loves to feed me Theo Vaughn clips because.

01:04:49.480 I've laughed out loud at multiple ones that have just popped up on my timeline.

01:04:54.940 Well, there's zero. You can never guess how the clip is going to end.

01:04:58.960 Yeah.

01:05:00.180 That like you start, he's talking about like a family reunion with his cousin. And at the end

01:05:04.920 of it, he's talking about the most like, I don't know, out of this world subject. And you're like,

01:05:12.860 how in the world did we get there? I don't know.

01:05:14.180 Yeah. It's part of his charm. Anyway. Okay. I do think it's interesting how there's like this

01:05:19.520 rising crop of like anti-woke comedians. And even if I don't, you know, agree with them on

01:05:25.560 everything or whatever, I do think it's a positive development. Even like someone like Dave Chappelle

01:05:30.140 and Joe Rogan being only to talk about the things that they do. I think it's a good thing. There's

01:05:35.100 like the comedian plays a very important cultural role in highlighting the absurd. And they can do

01:05:42.060 more actually to change culture than someone who is just literally talking, I think, in a lot of

01:05:48.000 ways. All right. That's all we got time for today. We will be back here tomorrow. Tomorrow is an

01:05:53.240 episode of Wellness Wednesday. And so completely different change of pace. We're going to be

01:05:58.980 talking about hormones and birth control and all different kinds of ways that women can remain

01:06:06.280 balanced. So I'm so excited for you to listen to that. We will be back here tomorrow.

01:06:12.060 We'll see you coming back here tomorrow.

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