Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 961 ｜ Ditching Disney for Vaccine Freedom ｜ Guest： Leigh-Allyn Baker

00:00:00.520 Former Disney Channel star Leigh Allen Baker played the mom on the hit show Good Luck Charlie.

00:00:07.440 She has now become a voice for medical freedom.

00:00:10.220 She is the mom of two vaccine-injured children, and today she is discussing why she has become

00:00:17.460 so courageous as an advocate for liberty, her political evolution over the past few

00:00:24.740 years, the heartbreak and betrayal she felt when Disney became one of the most prominent

00:00:30.680 advocates for medical mandates.

00:00:33.960 We're also discussing the endeavor that she is now undertaking with Brave Books and Kirk

00:00:39.860 Cameron to offer a wholesome and educational alternative in kids' entertainment.

00:00:46.060 We've got so much to talk about today.

00:00:48.020 You're going to be so uplifted by this conversation with Leigh Allen Baker.

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00:01:10.780 Leigh Allen, thank you so much for taking the time to join us.

00:01:14.780 I'm so excited to have you.

00:01:17.140 Thank you.

00:01:17.760 It's my pleasure.

00:01:18.320 I'm so excited to finally meet you.

00:01:20.400 You've been on my list of people that I want to meet.

00:01:22.760 Oh, well, that is an honor.

00:01:24.060 Thank you so much.

00:01:24.940 And I'm so excited to hear about all the things that you're doing.

00:01:28.020 But first, I kind of want to back up and just hear how you started in the crazy entertainment

00:01:35.060 acting industry.

00:01:37.360 How did that begin for you?

00:01:39.940 I was one of those kids that grew up feeling sorry for other children because they didn't

00:01:45.560 know what they wanted to do for a living.

00:01:47.160 And I always knew what I wanted to do for a living.

00:01:49.620 So God had always placed it on my heart that I was to be an actress.

00:01:52.820 And there was one point where I even said, hey, I'll make a deal with you because I was

00:01:57.440 at the age of striking deals with God that if I can be successful in an acting career,

00:02:02.320 I'm going to do things to help kids.

00:02:03.980 That's what I'm going to do.

00:02:04.720 Mm-hmm.

00:02:06.060 Okay.

00:02:07.140 And one series that really kind of took off, I've had so many pilots, pilot after pilot

00:02:13.060 after pilot.

00:02:13.680 The one that really kind of took off was a kid's show, which honestly, I was really against

00:02:19.900 doing at that point in my career.

00:02:21.500 I'd just come off of doing a new HBO show called 12 Miles of Bad Road.

00:02:27.460 And it had been advertised on HBO after The Sopranos as like the best is yet to come.

00:02:31.400 It was Mary Kay Place, Lily Tomless, myself, Gary Cole.

00:02:35.020 It was just a really great, it was like, this is it.

00:02:37.440 This is the one.

00:02:39.360 And the head of HBO actually slapped his girlfriend and it was caught on tape.

00:02:44.960 And so they fired him.

00:02:46.660 New guy comes in and says, we don't want any of his projects at all.

00:02:51.060 So they just scrapped the project.

00:02:52.960 And I remember sitting there saying to my husband, how am I always arriving back at square

00:02:58.960 one?

00:02:59.420 And then my phone rings after I decide, you know what, if HBO is going to cancel me, not

00:03:04.980 only am I going to cancel HBO, but I'm going to have a baby.

00:03:10.300 Wow.

00:03:10.780 So I've been putting off, decided to have a baby.

00:03:13.600 And then Disney calls and is like, hey, we got this show about a mom who's going back

00:03:19.000 to work after having a baby.

00:03:20.420 And I thought, I want no part of this.

00:03:22.900 Disney is where adults careers go to die.

00:03:25.340 And I'm not game.

00:03:27.320 And it was really, truly the best work experience that I had in the industry.

00:03:32.960 Yes.

00:03:33.520 Okay.

00:03:33.800 That's so funny hearing that part of your story, because that's a little similar to something

00:03:38.600 that happened to me.

00:03:39.700 I filmed a pilot for CNN back in 2018.

00:03:45.500 And we all had high hopes that it was going to kind of take off.

00:03:50.460 I was like the conservative voice on this panel show.

00:03:53.700 And it didn't.

00:03:54.980 And then my husband and I were like, okay, let's have kids.

00:03:59.000 Like, let's have a baby.

00:04:00.680 And I'm so glad.

00:04:01.780 Looking back, I'm like, oh my goodness.

00:04:03.940 I am so, so thankful.

00:04:05.500 And I'm sure that you feel the same way, right?

00:04:08.580 So tell us what happened after that.

00:04:11.060 So I got two families at once.

00:04:14.480 And I was not a spring chicken either.

00:04:17.500 I'd been going from pilot to pilot.

00:04:19.340 I always describe my career in Hollywood at that point as I was at the bar.

00:04:24.140 I was at the same party up at the bar like everybody else in Hollywood.

00:04:29.080 I just kept ordering the same drink and no one would ever give it to me.

00:04:32.260 Like, when was my thing kind of going to hit?

00:04:34.740 So here I was.

00:04:36.160 I found myself with two families at once, both my own family and my Good Luck Charlie family.

00:04:41.140 And it was really such a sweet spot in life.

00:04:45.280 I loved people that I worked with.

00:04:47.700 I loved the people that I worked for.

00:04:51.460 And of course, my family was just the best thing ever.

00:04:54.940 I mean, there's nothing better than having kids.

00:04:57.620 Right, right.

00:04:58.300 So tell us a little bit more about Good Luck Charlie.

00:05:00.400 I am a little too old.

00:05:04.100 To have been watching Disney at the time that it was on and so prominent.

00:05:09.460 So you said that was like the best experience in acting that you had.

00:05:12.600 So tell us a little bit more about that.

00:05:14.660 So what Disney decided to do was they took network veteran writers and network veteran actors, myself and Eric Allen Kramer, who played my husband.

00:05:22.400 And they put us together with these kids.

00:05:25.740 And I kind of thought, how am I going to handle these kids?

00:05:29.540 Like, how do I teach them what to do?

00:05:31.920 And then I quickly learned that even for the audience members and kids, the detriment in children's programming is that people dumb it down.

00:05:41.300 And what I realized is I can just bring my A-games and the kids that I'm acting across, when they see me bring my A-game, they raise up their level of acting.

00:05:48.340 And they meet you right there because kids are such open vessels.

00:05:51.940 And the kids at home that watched, I didn't need to dumb it down for them.

00:05:56.140 The same joke that landed for grandma or mom landed for the little kid, too.

00:06:00.620 It was such a great show that cast such a wide net and such a big demographic.

00:06:04.680 And it was just such a sweet spot in life. 0.79

00:06:08.400 I mean, I went to work every day, and my job was just to laugh and be ridiculous. 0.59

00:06:12.700 And I like doing that.

00:06:14.680 It's fun to just be hilarious and make a living.

00:06:18.440 Yeah, of course.

00:06:19.820 So that ended in 2014, correct?

00:06:23.400 Yes.

00:06:23.900 I believe it's still airing now.

00:06:25.960 But I think we stopped recording in 2014.

00:06:28.840 Yeah.

00:06:29.140 Okay.

00:06:29.460 So what did life look like for you after that?

00:06:32.760 Between that and then when you have become so outspoken about the things that matter, about life and freedom and all of that, what did you do during that period?

00:06:43.620 I focused on being a mom.

00:06:46.180 And I would get offers for roles that were really inappropriate because, of course, the industry wants to take someone that's been on something pure and really escalated because then it's really titillating to take the mom from Good Luck Charlie and through her and compromising television shows and movies and scenes.

00:07:02.760 But I just didn't want to do that.

00:07:05.160 I couldn't imagine at that point having kind of been the face for like having really been America's mom to turn around and do that kind of work.

00:07:17.760 It didn't sit well with me.

00:07:20.660 I would be embarrassed for my kids to see it.

00:07:23.200 And I just didn't feel right about it.

00:07:25.660 And at the same time, there wasn't a faith-based film that I couldn't get cast in.

00:07:29.920 Like, honestly, I was like, God, what's the deal here?

00:07:33.060 You just keep casting me in all your movies.

00:07:35.740 And, you know, the, you know, the crux with that is that sometimes Christian movies can be really cringe and really bad.

00:07:42.300 And so how do we, how do I kind of elevate that?

00:07:46.840 So focusing on being a mom, but still exploring other films.

00:07:50.580 And then the world went bananas.

00:07:55.000 Yeah.

00:07:55.720 But it's like I was even doing a pilot for Disney Channel and developing shows and movies and with them and still continuing a relationship with Disney that was really good, fruitful for both parties.

00:08:08.060 And was getting into executive producing for them, writing for them, creating for them, had done another pilot for them right before COVID hit.

00:08:16.880 Okay.

00:08:17.500 I was about to ask which year, because if it depends on who you ask, which year everything went crazy, could be 2020 during COVID.

00:08:26.460 Some people might say 2015 when Trump announced that he was running for president.

00:08:30.440 Like, the last 10 years have given us, like, a lot of years of crazy or introducing new seasons of crazy.

00:08:39.320 And I'm curious, before 2020, which I think we both agree was the introduction of a lot of just insanity, were you, did you ever feel misaligned as a Christian living in LA working for Disney?

00:08:57.940 Or was that a conflict that didn't really come up on the projects that you were working on?

00:09:04.900 Well, I've said it before.

00:09:07.740 As far as my faith goes, there is this kind of, like, unwritten contract that you have in Hollywood.

00:09:12.700 Specifically, I noticed if you're a Christian, to keep your mouth shut about your beliefs. 0.99

00:09:17.200 I mean, the good thing about sets is that people are really nice and kind, and the crews are amazing.

00:09:25.780 And everyone's really open and loving, but on the shows that I worked on.

00:09:29.900 But there were certain sets that you knew, you just better just pipe down and keep that to yourself, right?

00:09:36.060 It seemed like it was okay to speak out if you were of another religion.

00:09:39.680 But if you were a Christian, you really just kind of need to keep your mouth shut about that. 1.00

00:09:43.780 Unless it's Christmas.

00:09:45.760 Yeah.

00:09:46.040 And then you can talk about lights.

00:09:49.140 And that's it.

00:09:50.300 But that's the extent of it, you know?

00:09:52.000 Right.

00:09:53.500 As long as you kept it in, like, the hallmark realm of talking about Christmas, then you were fine.

00:09:57.780 Really what struck me is, you know, I was in the, when Trump ran, I guess what started to kind of seem odd to me was, wait a second.

00:10:22.440 And I wasn't even into politics, really.

00:10:23.980 I just thought, there's two legal candidates running that I'm allowed to vote for because there are two candidates, but I'm not allowed to vote for one.

00:10:36.200 I don't like being told what to do.

00:10:38.220 So when someone tells me I have to do something, that's when I go, let me dig a little bit deeper.

00:10:44.000 I don't understand.

00:10:44.960 Why is someone canceled for their job or fired from this or not allowed to do that because they said they wanted to vote for a candidate?

00:10:55.320 I mean, I'm old enough to where, you know, my friends and I would get together and go vote and cancel each other out and go for a salad afterwards, you know, and laugh about it.

00:11:04.460 And suddenly I saw the world really kind of flip on end.

00:11:07.820 And I saw the media really loving it and perpetuating it.

00:11:11.540 I mean, that's what they really wanted, right?

00:11:12.960 It's just another way to divide the country.

00:11:15.180 And that's what they want at the end is really keep us divided on every issue so that we're not focused on what these globalists and what this greater agenda is.

00:11:23.780 It's more keep us focused on fighting with one another.

00:11:27.040 Right, right.

00:11:27.780 And it was really in 2020 when these things came into focus for you, right?

00:11:32.420 2019 things really came into focus for me because I saw a lot of, you know, it's not my story, but it's part of my origin story with this whole thing is that I had children who were injured by vaccines, childhood vaccines.

00:11:46.580 And so I did a lot of research and not just on ingredients, but on what was going on in politics and how mandatory vaccinations for adults was an untapped market, according to Warren Buffett, that could use billions of dollars.

00:12:01.440 And they had kind of like they've kind of run as far as they could with mandating them for kids, because how many can you give them at that point?

00:12:08.500 And then in 2019, there were a lot of behind closed doors meetings going on in California with Gavin Newsom trying to remove medical exemptions for children who had suffered vaccine injuries, medical injuries.

00:12:20.540 So in other words, like your kid just either couldn't go to school or, you know, had to get a vaccine and possibly die and go to school.

00:12:29.580 So when they were making these behind the closed door deals about making mandatory vaccines and saying that the state would have the authority to decide if your child could be medically exempt.

00:12:43.440 So some random guy in an office from the state. And even then you would have to give your social security number.

00:12:48.640 You would have to give your location, the location of the school. There would be all this private information released.

00:12:53.140 It just seemed like something else was up. Like this isn't about like 4000 kids in the entire state of California.

00:12:59.800 And you're doing this. No, this is some sort of totalitarian control overstepping your bounds to get information to track people.

00:13:07.820 Oh, we're into tracking people now. OK, so you were noticing this stuff in 2019, you said.

00:13:14.620 Oh, yeah, they were 100 percent setting up for this. So, yeah, I was I'll say you were ahead of the curve because most people, most people weren't thinking about this.

00:13:22.880 Of course, there's been a conversation about childhood vaccines for a while and that has blown up in the past couple of years since covid.

00:13:30.060 But you were worried about surveillance, mandatory vaccines and tracking.

00:13:35.240 Oh, yeah. Before covid. Yes, I was worried about if you don't get your shot, you can't get your driver's license.

00:13:43.420 You don't get if we go to a digital currency, if you don't get your shots, then you don't have access to groceries.

00:13:51.000 I mean, that's. Yeah. And that's the long game, my friends. Right.

00:13:56.180 And OK, so when you started talking about this, what was the reaction that you were getting from people around you? 0.75

00:14:02.920 They thought I was absolutely nuts. In fact, I had a group of friends in California that right when covid hit, I had done some research and I had found online a medical study.

00:14:13.000 I had a medical study published by the NIH that the cure for SARS-CoV with ACE2 inhibitor.

00:14:21.360 This study was done in 2014, 2015, that the cure was quercetin with zinc because quercetin made zinc an ionophore.

00:14:31.720 So what that means is that it opens the viral cell wall so that zinc can penetrate and stop replication.

00:14:37.300 So SARS-CoV with ACE2 inhibitor sounded like SARS-CoV-2 to me, just taking a leap. Right.

00:14:44.060 And so I sent this to my friends who are also worried about this virus of, you know, if you take quercetin with zinc and we're also zinc deficient, that this could be helpful.

00:14:53.440 Well, it turns out that the other two zinc ionophores that people were starting to later realize was hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, though those are prescription versions.

00:15:04.600 And I much prefer the natural bioflavonoid way. Of course, it didn't.

00:15:07.360 But I started doing all this research before seeing, oh, this is what's coming down the line.

00:15:11.660 I was at the point in my life where, you know, the first two weeks in, you know, the headlines on the paper.

00:15:18.260 Yes, I'd still gotten a paper at the time. That's how old school I am, was Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation offers one hundred and eighty million for vaccine philanthropy study.

00:15:26.100 And I was like, oh, everybody else is like, oh, he's such a good guy.

00:15:28.960 And I'm holding it up to my husband saying this is how they're going to do it.

00:15:32.420 This is how they're going to do it.

00:15:35.180 Wow. So you were really probably one of the first people talking about this.

00:15:39.660 And the first people who sound the alarm about anything always take the most arrows.

00:15:46.140 I'm sure at the time it felt a little lonely.

00:15:51.080 I didn't have a single friend text me back on that thread where I mentioned quercetin and none of them has spoken to me since.

00:15:57.520 Not a not a happy birthday to your kids, not a oh, I'm sorry, you're getting death threats publicly and you've been slammed all over Inside Edition and everywhere else.

00:16:06.960 I mean, these people were I had people that were godparents to my children.

00:16:10.260 They were they were the guardians of my children.

00:16:11.680 If something happened to us, we had left our children to them.

00:16:15.180 And no communication, no Christmas card, zero.

00:16:20.420 It was radio silence.

00:16:22.640 This is like the beginning of 2020 at this point.

00:16:25.760 Yes.

00:16:26.560 And when I fled and moved and here's where I really stepped in it is I was.

00:16:32.620 Asked by a bunch of moms to please go to a school board meeting in Williamson County, Tennessee, even though my kids weren't going to school.

00:16:38.640 I was homeschooling them and because they were going to mandate masks again.

00:16:42.680 And that's when it really blew up.

00:16:46.380 Yes.

00:16:47.320 And I want to hear more about that.

00:16:48.600 But I first want to pause on the losing friends point because I know a lot of people can relate to that.

00:16:55.220 A lot of us have lost friends over the past few years, whether it's because of our stance on masks or medical mandates, whatever it is.

00:17:04.600 Or maybe it was BLN, maybe it was Trump.

00:17:07.500 And it can be really difficult.

00:17:10.280 Can you just tell us how you dealt with that emotionally and spiritually?

00:17:15.320 I'm sure that was really hurtful.

00:17:18.540 It was very hurtful.

00:17:21.540 But I'll tell you what, I do believe that people reveal their true colors and that you should pay attention when they do.

00:17:34.180 And I knew that there is no friend in the world more important to me than my children.

00:17:38.580 It was an easy decision for me.

00:17:40.080 I mean, the kids come first.

00:17:41.900 I mean, God comes first and then your kids.

00:17:43.560 And he was clearly pushing me into a different direction.

00:17:47.140 I will tell you what hurt the most is one day that I really kind of broke down and lost it.

00:17:53.380 I've never even talked about this.

00:17:54.580 You just kind of brought this up in me just now.

00:17:56.820 Is we loved going to Disneyland.

00:18:00.580 Disneyland was a weekend event for us because it was truly the best occupational therapy for children.

00:18:05.780 Because they have fun on one ride.

00:18:07.740 It gets them to use muscle tone to walk and get stamina to go to the next ride.

00:18:12.380 It gets them on a roller coaster.

00:18:14.000 When my kids first rode it, their heads would be pulled down.

00:18:16.720 And then later when they rode it, it was like core tight, neck up, arms in the air, using your core to balance.

00:18:22.400 I mean, it really is so good for kids with any kind of physical disability or special need.

00:18:28.740 I read an article that said that this company, Disney, that I've donated so many years of my life to and really my heart to.

00:18:37.280 And was really invested in not just on a business level, but that like in a relationship with these people were really like my second family and that they were going to be making their they were discussing the possibility of vaccination in order to enter.

00:18:52.460 And making Disneyland and making Disneyland and like a vaccine distribution headquarters.

00:18:57.340 And I, you know, I broke down.

00:19:00.780 I hit the ground on my knees because I felt such betrayal like that.

00:19:06.140 I could such betrayal.

00:19:09.440 Right.

00:19:10.120 I mean, to me, if someone with vaccine injured children, it wasn't just a difference of opinion or belief.

00:19:19.400 To me, it was like a death sentence to my kids.

00:19:23.380 Oh, your kids can't be a part of society anymore because, well, you know, you were some of the unlucky ones that really, you know, took a hit.

00:19:30.720 Whose lives will never be the same, who has suffered immensely.

00:19:33.820 I was not met with compassion.

00:19:35.720 I was met with.

00:19:38.400 Abuse, with violence, with death threats, with threats of being ostracized from society, my children never being able to fit in.

00:19:46.200 When Gavin Newsom stands up one day and says the only way that California will ever go back to normal is if everyone takes a mandatory vaccination.

00:19:53.700 Well, he may as well have put a loaded gun up to my kids heads like that was not going to happen. 0.56

00:20:00.720 I'm sure you felt so betrayed because Disneyland had been not just y'all's fun place, but it sounds like also your safe place.

00:20:17.940 And then it became the opposite.

00:20:19.660 It became the unsafe place that not only was saying you have to do this thing which could hurt your children,

00:20:27.100 but also you're not welcome here if you don't agree with this.

00:20:31.760 And we hate you if you disagree with this.

00:20:34.380 I mean, that's got to hurt.

00:20:36.960 Yes.

00:20:37.440 And it just had me baffled that the world couldn't see that as hatred.

00:20:44.320 But if I had a different opinion on something, suddenly I was speaking hate.

00:20:49.980 Like everything was it was like Wacky Wednesday all of a sudden in the world.

00:20:55.420 And I wasn't willing to go along with that narrative.

00:20:59.140 I didn't care that I was the one person.

00:21:01.960 And oftentimes I was the one person.

00:21:03.760 It didn't just feel like it.

00:21:04.760 I was the one person at a point speaking out about this.

00:21:08.360 I didn't care because I'm going to stand up for what is right and what is true.

00:21:14.080 And it's not what I feel like is the truth.

00:21:16.900 It's not like my opinion of the truth or my take on the truth.

00:21:19.580 It's like there is concrete evidence of this is true.

00:21:22.020 This is fact. 0.56

00:21:22.800 And I'm not going to deny that even if everyone in the world world says I'm nuts.

00:21:27.100 Yeah.

00:21:27.620 Well, you mentioned Wacky Wednesday and you actually just kind of made something click for me

00:21:32.240 because that's a there's a book by Dr. Seuss called Wacky Wednesday where this kid wakes up

00:21:37.900 or he's dreaming and he sees all these silly, crazy things that are completely out of place at his school.

00:21:43.960 And everyone's telling him, what are you talking about?

00:21:46.180 Nothing's wacky here.

00:21:47.780 I'm realizing that that is a really good metaphor.

00:21:53.440 It's what it is.

00:21:55.320 It's a true story.

00:21:56.740 Yes, that is kind of what's happening.

00:21:58.900 It's like we're walking around to being like, do you not see that this is crazy?

00:22:03.120 Do you not see that this is out of place?

00:22:04.880 Do you not see that this is true?

00:22:06.540 And you've got people in the media, you've got politicians, Gavin Newsom, our friends, gaslighting 0.99

00:22:12.320 and basically being like, no, you're crazy. 0.95

00:22:14.700 What are you talking about? 0.81

00:22:15.560 All of this is perfectly normal.

00:22:17.280 It's perfectly fine to be forced to take this vaccine or to put this mask on or that men can become women. 1.00

00:22:22.760 This is all totally fine.

00:22:24.100 We are in perpetually Wacky Wednesday world.

00:22:27.060 You're totally right.

00:22:27.820 That is correct.

00:22:30.320 So the media will spin it one way.

00:22:32.260 And so what happens is people are either so insecure that they're like, I want to be thought of as a good person.

00:22:37.640 So I have to believe this nonsense.

00:22:39.800 Right.

00:22:40.020 Even though deep down they know that ain't right.

00:22:43.760 Like, what?

00:22:45.160 Yeah.

00:22:45.940 Or or they use fear of like, I don't want if I speak out on that or if I question that, oh, that what happened to them could happen to me.

00:22:54.480 And I don't want that happening.

00:22:56.220 Yeah.

00:22:56.440 Well, my viewpoint is you're all in line behind me.

00:22:59.240 Get some grow a pair and stand up for the truth.

00:23:02.760 Right.

00:23:03.300 Right.

00:23:03.700 It's like I call it.

00:23:05.080 I mean, there are different, different ways to describe it.

00:23:08.720 But I do think a lot of us, especially as women, can be victims of what I call empathy shaming or empathy bullying or toxic empathy.

00:23:16.980 Like, it's basically using a form of empathy as a mallet to bludgeon someone into compliance.

00:23:24.900 If you're an empathetic person, you'll be on the progressive side of any issue, whether it's gender, whether it's abortion, whether it's vaccines.

00:23:31.880 And because all of us want to be seen as empathetic, no one wants to be seen as mean or hateful or bigoted.

00:23:39.560 We hear, OK, well, that must just be true.

00:23:42.000 It must be empathetic to be pro-toys or to be pro-mandate.

00:23:47.540 And so people just it's just easier for them.

00:23:49.880 It's just easier to kind of believe that.

00:23:52.060 And as you have shown, we have every incentive, really, to fall in line with what the mainstream says is right, because you might be punished if you don't.

00:24:04.320 But you decided that it was worth it.

00:24:07.140 And I thought people could see through that.

00:24:09.160 I thought that they could maybe use some of their executive function and realize, well, what did she have to gain by saying this? 0.99

00:24:17.340 Well, nothing.

00:24:17.920 In fact, she's been put through the ringer.

00:24:20.720 And what does this pharmaceutical company have gained to say this?

00:24:24.780 Oh, billions of dollars.

00:24:26.800 But people just don't want to.

00:24:29.240 They're just scared.

00:24:30.400 And I'm not.

00:24:31.400 I'm not.

00:24:33.280 Right.

00:24:33.980 OK, so you fled the state of California, you and your family.

00:24:37.700 And then what has it been like since then?

00:24:39.760 I fled at four nights, actually. 0.99

00:24:42.880 It was getting really stupid. 0.96

00:24:44.480 David, you know, they would say two weeks in, like, you can't. 0.99

00:24:48.780 I mean, at first I was scared.

00:24:49.700 I fell for it, too.

00:24:50.500 The indoctrination is strong.

00:24:52.040 It is it is heavy.

00:24:53.880 And then they said, oh, you can't get it by touching things.

00:24:58.060 And I was like.

00:25:00.580 Deadliest virus in the history of the world, and you can't get it by touching things.

00:25:03.200 Everybody knows you go to Disneyland, you touch something, you lick something, you get the flu or whatever, you know, I was just like, I'm not buying it.

00:25:09.200 Like, it's it's all a scam, all of it.

00:25:12.200 Like, I'm not buying any of it.

00:25:15.860 So I fled overnight.

00:25:18.000 I kept really feeling the pressure.

00:25:19.700 I knew my kids wouldn't be able to go to school.

00:25:21.580 And I thought, well, Tennessee has good schools.

00:25:25.160 OK, so your husband, he was on board with everything as well.

00:25:28.240 He had been saying that there were very few outs for our kids to have a normal life.

00:25:36.660 There was only so much more hiding of the fact that we had vaccine injuries and that how could we participate in society when we weren't going to be allowed to even go to school?

00:25:46.400 So he was really starting to see it.

00:25:48.540 He was hopeful that we could move to Tennessee later in our lives.

00:25:51.880 And but that was not the timing.

00:25:56.340 The timing was that I felt God really say to me, like now.

00:26:02.060 OK, and you are also you're also pro-life.

00:26:06.620 California is obviously ardently pro-abortion.

00:26:11.760 And I'm sure just kind of the disparate values and the gap that was growing between you and California also contributed to your sense of urgency to leave.

00:26:24.160 Right.

00:26:25.640 I didn't see a financial equation that would ever make sense for my children to be able to have a life there.

00:26:35.140 There is no mathematical equation that can fix the catastrophic state of the financial situation going on in California, nor is there going to be any freedoms left.

00:26:49.660 I just didn't see life working out for them.

00:26:54.000 And I wanted to be free.

00:26:57.120 I was not going to wear a mask.

00:26:58.380 I was not going to get a vax.

00:26:59.480 I was not going to play these games.

00:27:01.180 Someone actually said to me the other day in an interview, what made you radically change to leave California and start a career in a different direction?

00:27:10.420 What made that radical?

00:27:12.060 I said, I didn't radically change.

00:27:15.360 Hollywood, California radically changed.

00:27:17.600 Not me.

00:27:18.640 I wanted to be myself and go to work.

00:27:21.080 They wanted to say, you have to stick this cotton swab up to your brain that has ethylene oxide from China at the tip of it.

00:27:27.640 You have to wear a mask.

00:27:30.480 You have to stand six feet from people.

00:27:33.320 Dots on the floor that you have to stand to separate to show you six feet because, you know, at five feet, nine inches, you'll get it.

00:27:40.280 But at six one, you won't.

00:27:42.860 And you have to wear a mask, which everybody knows. 0.85

00:27:47.920 I'm sorry, but that's just ridiculous.

00:27:50.900 And OK, so when you got to Tennessee, you said that things really kind of blew up for you when you went viral and you spoke at a school board meeting in Franklin to protest implementation of mask mandates.

00:28:17.520 This was in August of twenty twenty one.

00:28:19.540 And we're just going to go ahead and play that clip.

00:28:21.980 Now, it's thought to the real part of the clown show is that you all think that you actually have the authority to mandate this because there are these books that I have and I have them as a gift for you.

00:28:34.260 The Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights and the Federalist Papers and also the Bible.

00:28:42.680 And these guarantee my freedom and yours and our children's to breathe oxygen.

00:28:46.860 OK, so that kind of spread really quickly on the Internet and you became really kind of a voice for people pushing back against this, right?

00:29:00.400 Yeah, that was such a God moment because I was not planning to go there.

00:29:06.020 I had these books and someone had said, please come, please come, you can talk to people.

00:29:11.100 And I thought, well, you know, while people are outside waiting in line, I could maybe inspire them, read something from this.

00:29:16.900 So I just grabbed them.

00:29:18.540 I don't even know why I did.

00:29:19.740 I didn't know what I was going to say.

00:29:21.340 And then when I got there, this woman said, look, we want you to speak.

00:29:25.320 So take my number because the slots to speak had been filled.

00:29:28.760 And I really didn't know what I was going to say.

00:29:31.260 And that speech actually started out with me just being so thankful because when I stood up there, I realized the gratitude that I have, that I live in a country where I can actually stand up and say what I want to say still, at least for now.

00:29:45.000 And how precious and amazing and incredible that right was.

00:29:48.820 And so I was really overcome with gratitude.

00:29:50.720 And that's how I started out with like, I'm so thankful to be here because I'd truly been met with open arms in Tennessee.

00:29:56.240 And I'd never felt that in California.

00:29:58.020 And I'd been ostracized.

00:30:00.420 So I was grateful to be there.

00:30:03.160 And then I got down to business of, you know, everyone stood up saying, we don't want masks because of this.

00:30:09.900 We do want masks because of this.

00:30:11.720 Well, you can do what you want with your kids.

00:30:13.960 Well, I want your kids to do what my kids do.

00:30:15.820 And no one had gotten to the real crux of the situation, which is a school board doesn't have the right to gag you from breathing oxygen.

00:30:24.780 They just don't even have the right to be making that decision.

00:30:26.960 And I knew at that point by witnessing what I'd witnessed in California that the deal's already struck.

00:30:34.420 It's already made.

00:30:36.620 This is just how can I make an impact to get the truth out there?

00:30:40.440 Because they already had made their decisions that they were going to remandate masks.

00:30:43.600 However, what people don't know is that in the state of Tennessee, if you just wrote a letter and say, yeah, we're going to make ourselves exempt from that, you could be exempt from it.

00:30:51.880 But you had to make yourself exempt from wearing a mask before you could do that.

00:30:55.100 If you just went to school and were like, no, I'm just going to live by my rights under the Constitution to breathe freely and walk freely and you not restrict my movement, they would sequester you.

00:31:04.940 Yeah.

00:31:05.540 So it really wasn't about the health or the safety.

00:31:07.760 It was about getting that bit of control over you and people complying with it.

00:31:12.780 Are you worried about what could be around the corner in an election year?

00:31:18.600 I mean, we know all of the chaos that came from COVID probably helped Biden.

00:31:24.180 I mean, you know, election stuff aside, I know a lot of people still have questions and criticisms of the process itself.

00:31:31.780 But, I mean, Democrats obviously used the fear surrounding COVID to say you have to vote for us because your life depends upon it.

00:31:41.960 I mean, and we've already seen the WHO.

00:31:44.480 We talked about this on the show recently, the WHO trying to get multiple countries to sign this treaty, seeding in some ways our sovereignty in case of some kind of medical emergency.

00:31:56.780 Our bodily autonomy, they would take that over.

00:31:59.180 They want the right to override any constitution, any government control of our people or state regulations.

00:32:05.400 They want to come in and implement theirs.

00:32:07.620 And let's talk about how wrong they were on absolutely everything with that, with COVID.

00:32:12.940 They were wrong on absolutely everything.

00:32:14.360 Well, I think they were caught.

00:32:16.540 They knew they were wrong.

00:32:17.380 I think they were caught at everything and the truth eventually came out to people.

00:32:20.520 But it is absolutely imperative. 0.77

00:32:22.660 I will not hand my kids over to some neo-Nazi globalist lunatics at the World Health Organization. 0.92

00:32:33.020 I'm not going to do that. 0.57

00:32:34.140 I think people need to learn that when something has a really pretty name doesn't mean that what's going on behind the scenes is pretty.

00:32:40.540 That is to gain control over all U.S. citizens because the United States is the linchpin of freedom.

00:32:45.640 And once that is broken, it is done for the world.

00:32:48.460 They'll get their one world government, their new world order.

00:32:52.240 And we will not be at the top of the food chain on that.

00:32:55.860 We're talking Hunger Games stuff.

00:32:57.740 You will be in a district.

00:32:59.220 And may the odds forever be in your favor.

00:33:00.920 And I wish it were a conspiracy theory.

00:33:04.980 I would love to say, oh, De'Alan, you're just – I mean, that's just way too far.

00:33:09.820 Get your tinfoil hat on.

00:33:11.040 But unfortunately, they basically say this stuff out loud.

00:33:14.000 When they go to Davos and the people who are involved in the WEF, the world leaders who are all incentivized by the WEF to carry out these policies, they're not hiding things like that.

00:33:25.740 We've already heard the WHO say that we need a one health approach when it comes to battling things like COVID.

00:33:34.380 Anytime you see the word one in front of this global organization's plans, you need to be really skeptical because that does always signify some kind of lack of sovereignty, either individual sovereignty, national sovereignty, as you said, autonomy.

00:33:51.120 Because the fact of the matter is countries are different, peoples are different, families are different.

00:33:56.560 We can't all be governed under one system, one process, one strategy without an entity taking complete and total control.

00:34:07.360 And so it does seem like you were ahead of the curve in understanding kind of where this goes.

00:34:12.940 Yeah.

00:34:13.100 When I saw their video that came up pretty early of you will own nothing and you will be happy.

00:34:17.500 Yeah.

00:34:17.840 That was –

00:34:18.600 We just put it down for –

00:34:19.560 Right.

00:34:20.320 We're going to take your stuff.

00:34:22.420 That's code for we're going to take your stuff.

00:34:25.180 Right.

00:34:26.260 I mean, I don't know how else – people think it's like, oh, no, I won't own anything.

00:34:31.340 I'll rent it from the government via drone.

00:34:33.580 Really?

00:34:35.140 No.

00:34:35.820 I mean, it's not going to be pretty, you know?

00:34:39.960 I mean, you can look at all the past history of communism.

00:34:43.040 It doesn't turn out well.

00:34:44.240 You can use East and West Berlin as an example for that.

00:34:46.840 Yeah.

00:34:47.480 Yeah.

00:34:47.960 Man, so many examples, especially in the 20th century alone.

00:34:51.960 Okay, tell us, as you have really been a voice and you've really been speaking out and you've

00:35:08.920 sacrificed a lot because of that, for the moms who are listening right now, it's very anxiety-inducing

00:35:15.920 to think about these big, powerful people who do not care about what we think or about what we say

00:35:20.980 or what our choices are.

00:35:22.260 It can be really intimidating for those of us out here to feel like we are totally powerless,

00:35:27.000 we're totally helpless, we're totally hopeless.

00:35:29.500 Can you just give some advice to the moms who are like, okay, but what do I do to protect

00:35:34.520 my kids and to fight back?

00:35:37.040 How do I push back?

00:35:39.040 Well, this is part of what brought me closer to God and to actually realizing that, oh,

00:35:43.340 the Bible is like a living, breathing thing.

00:35:45.860 I mean, I always used to say, life doesn't come with an instruction manual.

00:35:49.400 And then one day I was like, oh, it does.

00:35:51.460 It does.

00:35:52.340 Look at this.

00:35:53.180 Did you see this?

00:35:53.980 I guess I'm just really confident in who goes before me.

00:35:58.820 And look, I would just say that the Bible doesn't tell you to be afraid.

00:36:07.100 It tells you to not be afraid.

00:36:08.560 In fact, it commands it 365 times.

00:36:10.980 Do not be afraid.

00:36:13.100 It says, go forth and multiply, not sit back in your closet and bite your nails.

00:36:17.860 You know, Revelations wasn't written so that you could build a bunker.

00:36:20.960 It was written so you could build a table and invite people around and share the gospel.

00:36:25.420 I just feel that I'm not going to be on the wrong side of history on this.

00:36:30.360 It's not going to happen.

00:36:31.860 And if they could have so easily taken the United States over to create their great reset,

00:36:36.100 of course, that's why they're breaking the United States, because in order to reset something,

00:36:38.820 you have to break it first.

00:36:39.760 That's kind of the chronological order of that situation.

00:36:43.660 But I'm just not going to be, I'm not going to, I don't know, I'm not going to play their game.

00:36:51.860 It doesn't scare me.

00:36:54.620 Yeah.

00:36:55.080 You know, I know that this world is not my home.

00:36:57.320 I'm a visitor here.

00:36:59.200 And I'm going to, I'm not going to turn.

00:37:02.320 What is the alternative?

00:37:03.840 You enslave humanity and that's the life you leave your children. 1.00

00:37:07.960 I'm not going to be the person to do that.

00:37:10.900 I don't care if I'm the only voice saying it from the top of my lungs.

00:37:14.240 I'm not going to hand my kids over to the World Economic Forum.

00:37:17.180 Noah Yuval Harari is the little henchman to the Klaus Schwab.

00:37:21.260 It's his little guy.

00:37:22.240 And he on interviews will say, artificial intelligence has already completely taken over.

00:37:27.400 Like it's over.

00:37:28.220 It's game over.

00:37:28.840 There is no more soul.

00:37:30.360 There is no more spirit.

00:37:31.480 You will have to accept the fact that a group of elites will be your gods.

00:37:38.740 I just say that ain't happening.

00:37:42.420 But I do feel the good news is that there's always, I feel like there is such hope.

00:37:46.820 I feel like so many people are waking up to the truth of what is going on in the world.

00:37:49.700 And I feel like what an exciting time to be alive and to be witness to this and hopefully affect some positive change in this.

00:38:02.760 And homeschooling.

00:38:04.600 Let's look at that.

00:38:05.460 Homeschooling has taken off.

00:38:06.880 Everybody's doing it now.

00:38:07.800 Kids are finally, you know, slowing down, being indoctrinated and starting to be like educated and learning to use executive function.

00:38:16.460 I just people are learning to the basics of growing your own food, of cooking, of, you know, the sourdough bread, the raw milk craze, getting back to basics.

00:38:26.020 We've gone so far in the other direction.

00:38:28.480 I mean, let's pull back to basics.

00:38:30.760 I just feel like there is so much hope.

00:38:32.880 And if the United States were that easy to take over, it would have been done by now.

00:38:36.700 But it's not.

00:38:37.760 And that's where the Second Amendment comes in handy.

00:38:39.960 I do think that it can be intimidating to think about trying to save the world.

00:38:48.500 And I just remind the women, the individuals listening to my podcast, is that it's not our job to save the world or to change the future.

00:38:57.260 You can only do what you can with the resources that you've been given, with the people around you.

00:39:03.920 So what we are all called to do, which is what Christians have always been called to do for the 2,000 years of our existence, is to maximize, to cultivate, to beautify the tiny plot of earth, the tiny speck of eternity on which God has providentially placed us.

00:39:22.000 And that only ever means doing the next thing that glorifies God, doing the next right thing.

00:39:28.700 That's not my original phrase, but that's a phrase that we say a lot on this show, do the next right thing in faith with excellence and for the glory of God.

00:39:36.320 Sometimes that will mean some big, brave public thing.

00:39:40.540 It might mean speaking before the school board.

00:39:43.320 Sometimes it's the more private thing.

00:39:45.300 Sometimes it's literally just washing dishes or changing a diaper with joy, discipling your children, sharing the gospel with your friend.

00:39:53.620 Maybe it is taking those steps to ensure that your home is a refuge of godliness and of clarity and of truth and of health and stability and all of those things.

00:40:07.820 I don't want the women out there to think that they're powerless. 0.98

00:40:11.020 You can only do what God has empowered you to do with what you have and trust that God is completely and totally powerful and that he will win.

00:40:22.520 That doesn't mean that we sit back and do nothing.

00:40:24.980 That just means that obedience moment by moment looks different.

00:40:29.640 It looks different depending on the stage of life that you're in, what God has called you to do, the talent that he's given you, and all of those things.

00:40:38.200 And we might not be able, you're probably never going to be able, not you, but you in general, talk to Klaus Schwab and change his mind.

00:40:45.460 And that's okay.

00:40:46.180 God hasn't called you to do that.

00:40:47.660 We can only do the best that we can with what is in front of us and just trust that the Lord is good.

00:40:53.920 And by the way, the prayer of a righteous person has great power as it is working.

00:40:59.040 That's what the book of James tells us.

00:41:00.900 And so we also can't underestimate what our prayers can do and how they can actually work.

00:41:06.240 Yes, I agree.

00:41:08.380 I think that prayer is so, so powerful and waking up every morning.

00:41:13.300 And I always like to tell my husband, every time my feet hit the ground in the morning, the devil goes, oh, she's up again.

00:41:20.340 You know, I hit the pavement with joy in my heart and prayers for not only my family and my country, but also praying for the enemy.

00:41:29.680 I mean, God is more powerful than all of this.

00:41:33.220 And so I think that's why I'm not afraid.

00:41:35.580 If it weren't for my faith, then I probably would be afraid.

00:41:38.720 But that is what gives me strength.

00:41:40.940 And I didn't know I was going to go speak at that board meeting and it was going to blow up to this.

00:41:44.960 I didn't even know what the term going viral really meant at the time.

00:41:50.260 But he put me there in that place.

00:41:52.100 And since then, I've tried to go places to make an impact and it hasn't.

00:41:57.720 My impact has been at home.

00:41:59.740 It's been with a neighbor.

00:42:00.940 It's been on a podcast or it's, you know, trying to find a new path for my career because they shut it down of, you know, expanding into a different direction, taking Christian film in a different direction.

00:42:15.960 So and sometimes I have friends that say, I want to be able to make an impact like you do.

00:42:21.400 And I say to them, you do.

00:42:23.520 I would have lost my mind if I didn't have you as my friend.

00:42:27.540 There's so many different levels and different ways that you can help.

00:42:30.640 But number one, you know, you start at home.

00:42:34.660 Definitely.

00:42:35.700 Tell us about this new project that you have that you're working on with Kirk Cameron that is hopefully going to make parents feel less alone and like they have somewhere else to turn for education and entertainment for their kids.

00:42:51.040 That's not somewhere like Disney, who unfortunately has really turned their backs on a lot of parents.

00:42:58.360 Yeah, corporations, unfortunately, are at the whim of what will make their company profitable with certain investors and certain political climates.

00:43:09.060 But that's not the case with Brave Bucks because they're brave and they have recognized that the lane is completely open for good, wholesome family entertainment.

00:43:20.320 And so that is the goal of this show.

00:43:22.460 It's kind of like a Mr. Rogers type feel, which I think Kirk is perfect for.

00:43:26.680 And he has this puppet Iggy that is really hilarious that is his little sidekick in that show.

00:43:33.260 And I have a segment on that show where I just go over anything creative, arts, entertainment, singing, painting, sculpture, any kind of creative outlet for kids to do in that segment.

00:43:46.600 So it's really kind of like a Sesame Street meets Mr. Rogers, but it's going to have a lot more energy and be more modernized.

00:43:55.740 And parents can trust that the lessons in this are wholesome and value God and family.

00:44:03.680 OK, so tell me where people can go to learn more about it.

00:44:06.300 So go to BraveTV.com and you can learn all sorts of it, all the different things about it.

00:44:12.880 Now, one of the things that I will stress is that is dependent on fundraising because we're not going to answer to Hollywood executives.

00:44:20.800 We're going to answer to parents.

00:44:22.760 And that's where I've tried to plead with people.

00:44:25.460 You need to get in the game with entertainment and start to be the producer of your own kids' television and programming.

00:44:32.000 It is called kids' programming for a reason.

00:44:34.460 You see, it programs them.

00:44:36.660 So you may as well feed them with nourishing content instead of starving them with debauchery.

00:44:43.280 Yes.

00:44:43.880 If you go to bravebooks.us, right up top, you'll see Adventures with Iggy and Mr. Kirk.

00:44:51.340 So cute.

00:44:52.140 And there's an option to back this project.

00:44:54.500 And so I would encourage everyone, like, it's not enough for us to just sit around and complain about what these major corporations are doing

00:45:02.460 and the degenerate content that we're seeing on Netflix and different places like that.

00:45:07.740 We have to put our money where our mouth is because there are, thank the Lord, there are growing alternatives.

00:45:13.520 And to speak to our point earlier about there being reason for hope and reason for gladness,

00:45:19.200 like, I am seeing this parallel economy really crop up of conservatives, freedom-loving people, Christians saying,

00:45:27.020 you know what, I'm going to make sure that parents, that people have options,

00:45:31.320 that they don't have to spend their money on these godless corporations and this just radical programming that we are seeing on the left.

00:45:40.980 So go to bravebooks.us and you'll see the option to back the project.

00:45:45.160 Is there anything else you want people to know about that?

00:45:49.300 I think most of the content that they can find on that website.

00:45:54.040 And really, you know, I would just encourage you to get involved.

00:45:57.640 And maybe, you know, when we take this step and be, you know, courageous and forming our own path,

00:46:03.620 maybe it will be so successful that it becomes contagious and that maybe Disney will start to make better content again

00:46:09.500 and listen to their viewership instead of listening to the corporate overlords.

00:46:13.840 Yes. Yes. And amen. Well, thank you so much. And people can follow you on Instagram.

00:46:20.040 Anywhere else you want to direct them?

00:46:22.600 Instagram. I have a TikTok and YouTube channel and Twitter. You can just Google me and it will pop up.

00:46:29.960 Okay. Awesome. Well, thank you so much, Leigh Allen. I really appreciate you taking the time to come on to share your story.

00:46:35.980 I am thankful for your courage. Courage is contagious. Courage begets courage.

00:46:41.180 And you have helped a lot of women be courageous. So I really appreciate that.

00:46:46.480 Thank you. Thank you so much.

00:46:48.140 Thank you.

00:46:48.580 Thank you.

00:46:50.680 We'll be right back.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - March 04, 2024

Ep 961 ｜ Ditching Disney for Vaccine Freedom ｜ Guest： Leigh-Allyn Baker

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