Ep 966 ｜ Where in the World Is Kate Middleton？
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Where in the world is Kate Middleton? The internet is going wild with theories and conspiracy theories about where she is. Is she dead? Is she alive? Did she have a miscarriage? Is there something sinister going on with the royal family? Is it a cover-up or a full-on PRIDE PRIDE CRISIS? Join us this week as we take a deep dive into all the theories surrounding the whereabouts of Princess Kate.
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Where in the world is Kate Middleton? The internet is going wild with theories and conspiracy theories
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about where she is. If you have no idea what I'm talking about, or even if you do,
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you've got to listen to this episode. We unravel all of the different threads and go down all the
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rabbit holes. Oh my goodness. Okay, buckle up. This episode is brought to you by our friends
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Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Tuesday. Hope everyone is having a wonderful week so far.
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All right, a lot to get into today. This is a little bit of a different episode.
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We don't usually talk about the royals. We're not usually getting this far into what some people
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would refer to as a conspiracy theory. I'll just call it a theory at this point. I've looked enough
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into this to say, I don't even know if I could call it conspiracy theories. They're very interesting
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theories about the whereabouts of Princess Kate. Okay, before we get into all of that, Brie and I,
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we're going to be talking all about all the different angles of this. But before we get into
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it, I've got a merch announcement that I'm so excited about. Okay, I have been wearing these
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the green t-shirt right now. It says you're not enough with a little flower and then on the back,
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really getting better and better. Of course, this is kind of a play on my book or inspired by my book,
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You're Not Enough and That's Okay, Escaping the Toxic Culture of Self-Love. And the whole point is
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you're not enough. You're not sufficient, but Jesus is. This is a trope that we hear a lot,
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like even in the Christian women world, that you are enough. You can't be too much. You can't be
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too little. And while I understand the sentiment, I really do. I've thought about it from all different
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sides. And it's actually a mantra that I used to repeat. I used to have a little piece of paper on my
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bulletin board in college that said you are enough. So I get it. I get why it feels like
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balm for the weary heart or the insecure brain. But at the end of the day, we don't need to comfort
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ourselves or derive confidence from this idea that we are sufficient, that we're perfect the way that
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we are, that nothing that we are is off or in too much of a quantity or too little of a quantity.
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That's not where our comfort or our confidence comes from. The fact of the matter is we are fallen
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people. And even though we have been made new creations in Christ, if we are Christians, our strength is still
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derived from Christ. Our power, or His power rather, is made perfect in our weakness every day of our life. We have
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to rely on Him for our strength, for our satisfaction, for our sufficiency, for our sanctification. In no way are we
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enough. All of the confidence, all of the assurance that we have comes from Him and what He has done for us on the
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cross. And that's really good news. It's really good news because how we feel about ourselves, how much
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we like ourselves or love ourselves, is so dependent upon so many different changing factors. Our mood,
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how much we slept last night, what we ate for breakfast this morning, what people are saying
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about us, what they're not saying about us, how much money we make, how successful we feel, a million
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different things. But God does not change. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday, today, and forever,
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Hebrews 13.8. His love for us does not change. And so it is a much more solid place to put our feet.
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It is a much firmer foundation. It is a much more trustworthy source of happiness and fulfillment.
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All the things that we are trying and failing to find inside of ourselves can only be found outside of
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ourselves, namely in our Creator. Because remember, the self can't be both the problem and the solution.
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So if inside of ourselves we're finding all of this depression, anxiety, this not-enoughness,
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insufficiency, inadequacy, insecurity, why in the world would we expect to find the solutions to those
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things in the same place where we're finding all of the problems? So we have to look outside of
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ourselves, contrary to the popular self-love, self-help, self-empowerment, Brene Brown,
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Glennon, Doyle advice of the day. We have to look to God because we are not enough, will never be
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enough. And that is really good, liberating news. The burden of sufficiency is way too heavy for us
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to carry. So that's what this merch is about. That is what my book is about. But that's what these
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t-shirts, these crew necks are about. I really, really love them. You're not enough, but Jesus is.
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And that is really, really good news. All right, let's get into a much lighter topic, perhaps. Maybe
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you could consider it lighter. I would say, I'll just say that it matters much less than what we just
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talked about. But I still think it's important because we're talking about a human being. We're
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talking about Kate Middleton. It really is kind of a mystery, kind of a mystery where she is and what's
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going on. And I have kind of gone between two different camps in all of this of thinking it
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doesn't really matter and then thinking it does matter. But also the camps of everyone who has a
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theory about this is crazy too. Okay, maybe there's something to this. And I just want to speak to the
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people who are like, why are we talking about this? This is just a distraction. This is just
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something that they're trying to feed the masses to keep our eyes and attention away from the things
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that matter. Let me just say, we spend all day, every day on this podcast talking about those things,
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talking about the big things that we're told constantly you're not supposed to talk about.
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You're not supposed to ask those questions. You're not supposed to say that. You're not supposed to
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question that. You're not supposed to push back against that. We talk about those big things that
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have so much eternal significance, so much worldwide significance, so much significance on
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the lives of image bears. We talk about that every day. I get it. This is not the most serious story
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that we're ever going to talk about. And if it's not your cup of tea, I totally, totally get that.
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You can wait for tomorrow. You can go back and listen to yesterday's episode. You can skip forward to
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the next subject that we'll be talking about if we even have time to get to it. But for those of you
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who, like me, have started to hear a little bit about this story, like where in the world is Kate
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Middleton, and you're a little interested in what's going on, and you want to go down the rabbit hole with
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us, come along. I'm not a Royals follower. I really don't care about what's going on between,
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you know, Meghan Markle and Harry and the rest of the Royals. It's just not drama that I really pay
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that much attention to. But I've heard enough of the background noise to kind of have a general
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understanding of the family dynamics. I will say, because I'm just, I'm a girl, and what girl didn't
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look forward to, like the royal wedding. So I do remember Kate Middleton and Prince William's
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wedding. I don't know, Brie, if you watched that. Do you remember? You would have been in high
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school. Yeah, I was in high school. I think it was in the middle of the night, though. It was.
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Yeah, I didn't watch it, but I remember the day. Because your parents probably told you to go to
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bed, but I was a cool college girl. No rules. And I think my roommate and I did watch. And yeah,
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I have that kind of seared into my brain. I still think her dress was like one of the most beautiful
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dresses I've ever seen. Yeah. And then did you watch Meghan Markle's? No, I didn't actually at all.
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What? What? See, I remember that. That was early, like kind of early in the morning.
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And my friends came over and we watched it. Like a party, a viewing party? A viewing party. For a
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wedding? Yeah. So I do remember, but that's about it. And I did watch some of the Netflix series with
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Meghan and Harry. Okay. Yeah. A lot of controversy there. Are you a royals person? No. You're not?
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I'm not. You actually used to think I was. Yeah, I can see it. Yeah. There's nothing negative about
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that. I could just see you liking royal stuff. Yeah. No, not really. Okay. Yeah. Read that wrong.
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Read that wrong. Okay. But we are interested in this kind of conspiracy. Yeah. Because there's a lot
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going on here. There's a lot in my research document. I would not be surprised if we don't get into the
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other topics today because there's just so much. So Brie and I will kind of go back and forth on
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Okay. So what on earth are we even talking about here? When I say where in the world is Kate Middleton,
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what do I mean by that? Some of you haven't been paying attention to this at all. And I just really
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started paying attention in the past week or so. So Kate Middleton, or Princess Catherine of Wales
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formerly, has been absent from royal duties for the past couple of months. She has not had any sort of
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public appearance since December 25th, since Christmas. That was her last public appearance.
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She had planned abdominal surgery back on January 17th. And they released a statement at the time
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saying she's going in for planned abdominal surgery. She's going to take several weeks to
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recover. They said she'll be in the hospital for 10 to 14 days. That's a long time. We don't know
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exactly what the surgery was. She's going to be recovering for the next couple months. She's
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probably not going to make a public appearance until Easter. All right. So they said that back in
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January, it's not Easter until the end of the month. And so you might think, okay, well, that's it.
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Why are people even questioning where she is when they already put out a statement in January saying
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that she wouldn't be out and about until Easter? Why is anyone even wondering? Well, there are a few
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reasons for that. There are a few reasons why people have been saying, it's kind of weird how we see her
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in these paparazzi pictures, but she hasn't shown herself publicly. And they also haven't made any
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additional statements like, is she okay? And then things really, really took a turn over the past
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few days when from her account or from their account, the Prince and Princess of Wales account,
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they posted a picture of Kate Middleton with her three adorable children. So I saw the picture.
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I didn't see anything weird about it. It didn't look, it didn't look off to me at all. It looked like a
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very cute picture of her and, um, and her three kids. However, internet sleuths were quick to point
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out that some things looked a little out of place in the photo. It looked a little strangely edited.
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They posted some pictures showing, um, that Charlotte's sleeve looked a little bit edited,
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that the pattern didn't match on one of the boys sweaters and that the windows in the background
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looked edited. And I saw some of these tweets and I thought, okay, people just need a hobby. Like
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they just need to go back to work or something. Like you've got too much time on your hands.
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I didn't think that they really looked edited. I thought, okay, maybe some of the blurs or the
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mismatched patterns that they're talking about. Maybe it's just that the kids were moving. I mean,
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that's what happens. If you've ever taken a picture with multiple kids, it's hard to keep them all
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still. I bet that's what was going on. And there's nothing awry here. However, however, things got weird
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when press agencies like the Associated Press, Getty, Reuters, and the Press Association issued what is
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known as a photo kill. And that is an industry term that means that the image needs to be retracted.
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And instructed all clients to remove the photo from their systems. The AP said in its advisory
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at closer inspection, it appears that the source has manipulated the image. No replacement photo will
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be sent. Daily Mail editor and broadcaster Richard Eden wrote that he never thought he would see a kill
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notice on a photo issued by the palace. PR professionals refer to this as a death blow to
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any press source. And it does not happen often from the AP. So a lot of people online saying this is
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really weird to get this kill notice. So the AP, their experts looked at the photo. They said, yeah,
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this actually does look manipulated. And not just a little bit. They were specific that some editing is
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okay. But editing that seems to significantly change the photo from its original form is not
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allowed. And so don't distribute this photo because the AP will release a photo. Then all the other news
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outlets will take the photo and they'll post it. And so AP released this kill notice saying it's too
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manipulated. According to our own experts, do not publish it. So this prompted the Princess of Wales
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to issue an apology on her Instagram stories. Now, this is supposedly from Kate herself. It says,
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like many amateur photographers, I do occasionally experiment with editing. I wanted to express my
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apologies for any confusion the family photograph we shared yesterday caused. I hope everyone celebrating
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had a very happy Mother's Day. It's Mother's Day over there in the UK. And then she signed it C,
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which is supposed to mean that it was directly from her. All right. So let's back up a little bit.
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Let us look at the timeline because this all gives us a little more context. I gave you some of the
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timeline, like an overview of it. But Time Magazine has a detailed timeline and it'll help us understand why
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people are saying, okay, this image was manipulated because they're saying something is going on here.
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I'll get into the theories in a second, but they're saying something is going on here. There's a reason
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why beyond the surgery, she has been so absent. There's a reason why this photo was apparently heavily
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edited. So we'll get into the details of all of that in a second. Let me go through this timeline
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that Time Magazine published. So as I said, December 25th, Christmas Day marks Kate's last
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public appearance. January 17th, Kensington Palace announces that Kate underwent planned
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abdominal surgery, will be hospitalized for 10 to 14 days. January 18th, Prince William
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apparently visits Kate at the hospital. January 29th, following a nearly two-week hospital stay,
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Kensington Palace shares that Kate will return home to Windsor Castle to continue her recovery.
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She's making good progress. So I think I said earlier they hadn't released any more statements,
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but they did release that statement. February 29th, a spokesperson releases a statement to news
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outlets, including Page Six and NBC. And this is kind of in response to some of the conspiracies that
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had already started circulating that something weird is going on. They said Kensington Palace made it
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clear in January the timeline to the princess's recovery. They would only be providing significant
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updates. I think people were wondering why the silence. And they said, you know, there's nothing
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to update on basically. Then March 4th, Kate is photographed in the passenger seat of a car
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alongside her mother, Carol Middleton, as the two drive near Windsor Castle, according to images
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published by TMZ. The photo though is not authorized or released by Kensington Palace, but it marks the first
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time the Princess of Wales has been seen publicly since December. Of course, there are even conspiracies
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about whether or not it was really her. No major UK outlet publishes the photo. Royals reporter Emily
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Andrews claims in a post on X that Kensington Palace exerted huge pressure on the British media not to
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publish that picture. Interesting. March 5th, the British Army posts and removes its claim that the
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Princess of Wales will be attending their annual Trooping the Color event on June 8th. June 8th.
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Interesting. March 10th, in honor of Mother's Day in the UK, Kensington Palace shares the photo of Kate
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and her children, which the palace says, this is the thing to remember, remember this, the palace says
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was taken by her husband earlier last week. Okay? By Sunday evening, multiple major news agencies,
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including AP and Reuters, pulled the image from circulation due to apparent manipulation.
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While there was no suggestion the image was fake, AP pulled the photograph from circulation
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because it did not meet its photo standards. AP's editorial standards state the images must be
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accurate. So the AP did not think that this photo that was recently shared was accurate. Then March 11th,
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Kate issues her apology, not apology for editing the photo, supposedly editing the photo, but apology for any
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confusion caused. Hours later, she, supposedly Kate Middleton, I have to say supposedly because a lot of the
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questions that are being asked is photographed in a car, really you can't tell, her face is turned, leaving
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Windsor Castle alongside Prince William, though she did not join the Prince of Wales at the annual Commonwealth Day
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service at Westminster Abbey. Okay, so this is a picture that we see and it's up if you're watching on
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YouTube of her turned away to the side. Now to me, it looks like her. It looks like Kate Middleton. I would
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have never a second guessed, but people are showing in this thought three that this is also a manipulated
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image going on here and that it's been that there's another photo that this is actually from and that this
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isn't a recent photo of Kate. So here is that theory.
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Okay, Bree, can you, I know that was silent. So people who are listening to this didn't know. Let me explain like,
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well, maybe you can explain, Bree. What exactly is that editor doing, trying to show?
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Yeah, so there's an image from just some random image of Kate that they're claiming they took and
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sort of edited into this. Yeah, see there, they're sort of fading an old image into this to show it's
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the same exact position and it looks like she's even wearing the same like hat even. Okay, so what
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they're saying is that this photo wasn't really taken the other day, as they're saying, but that
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this is an old photo that they released to try to say, yeah, she's alive and well, she's fine.
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Yeah, and also people have noted that the bricks don't match, like the top of the car bricks don't
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match the window bricks. Interesting. Okay, so that's the thing. People are just saying,
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what is really going on here? If that's really fake, of course, we don't know whether that's a
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fake photo or not. The sleuthing is interesting though. Let's get into this analysis of the photo
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that was shared. That really sparked my interest. So there are many, many tweets about this that are
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looking into this specifically and all the ways that this photo just doesn't look like a normal photo.
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Now to the untrained eye, which is my eye, it does, but I guess to the trained eye, they were able to
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zoom in and tell. And so I'll go through one thread. There are many threads out there, but this one has
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54,000 likes, 8.6 million views. So this seems to be a popular one. A lot of people commenting on it
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saying, yeah, wow, you're right. So I'll go through this. And this is just better to watch on YouTube,
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FYI, because you'll be able to see what I'm talking about. So this person, John Mark, he's a photographer.
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He highlights a few of the issues with this recent photo that is starting, that is getting even more
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people asking where the heck is Kate Middleton and why are y'all sharing this? So one of the things that
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people are saying is off is Charlotte's sleeve right there. I guess it's a little bit blurry.
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There's a part of her sleeve that's missing, which if she had been kind of, if the sweater had been
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changed in any way in editing or had been like superimposed on her Brie, that could cause that,
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right? Yeah. You can kind of tell in a closeup that it seems like the hand that's holding her was
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kind of photoshopped in because it cuts her sleeve off. So yeah, there's like, there is no
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explanation for that to be real in a photo. Yeah. Unless she was, unless, what if she had been
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moving though? And that she was trying to, Kate apparently, who we're supposed to believe edits
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her own pictures on Adobe. Yeah. Bless her heart. Yeah. Um, she was trying to fix, or what if there
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was a stain on her sleeve or something? I mean, you don't think? No, it's just, when I look at it,
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I can't even imagine that she, I can't even imagine what was going through anyone's mind when
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they edited this. Cause it's very clear to me. Something is missing there. Yeah. Something is
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missing there. Something's missing there. Okay. They're also noting that the zippers, I can't even
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see that the zippers on her jacket apparently are not completely lined up. So that looks edited. And
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I guess, I think they're saying that the jacket was added. Yeah. Right. To the photo. And I'll explain
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why people think that they were added in just a second. There's so much here, guys. There's so much
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here. Also the daughter's skirt waist is extended awkwardly. You can see that in that photo. Kate is not
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wearing her wedding ring, but where would that come from? Like why would that indicate that
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something is being edited? Well, people are saying if she's not wearing the ring, then it's not really
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her hand. Oh. That they, that it's just, they put someone's hand there around. Okay. So this picture
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they're saying is not real at all. They literally are taking the kids from different photos and Kate from
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different photos, which we'll get into this in a second and putting them together. Yeah. That's a
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theory. Another theory is that this photo was real, but that someone else was sitting there as Kate.
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And then they put Kate's face on the person, but that wouldn't explain the hand stuff. Okay. But it
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could also be that she's just, that they're at home or something and she's not wearing her wedding
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ring. Sure. Right. I mean, that's normal. Yeah. That could explain that. Okay. So just giving all,
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all the different explanations. Although I will say for the Royal family, this is a detail that they
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typically wouldn't. Right. That's true. Um, okay. I don't see it in this thread, but I did notice
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that the, um, boys, I don't know his name. See, I don't follow the Royals. The second boy.
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I don't know the youngest, um, the, the design on his sleeve on his like outside arm doesn't match.
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And we'll put that picture up too. Like it looks like it's mismatched. And I don't think that that's
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a stitching error. I guess it would just be bad editing. Okay. So people are looking at all of that
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and they're like, well, there's something, there's something weird here. And I also just to be
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completely candid, I don't believe Kate's explanation either about experimenting with
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editing, because I don't know what you would have been trying to do, you know? And people are also
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pointing out that the windows in the background look weird. Yeah. That's actually one I didn't buy
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though, because if they're in the UK, those windows could just be like weathered. Yeah. Maybe
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not Royal buildings. I don't know, but that seemed not as, yeah. I don't know that the photography
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thing though. I've heard that she actually is quite a skilled photographer actually. Yeah. And that this,
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that probably wouldn't be how she would edit. She'd probably be a little more skilled than that.
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I don't know. And also like, are you really, I mean, maybe you enjoy editing your own photos,
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but I would definitely hire someone to do that part. Yeah. And you wouldn't, I would think they
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wouldn't release it. That's the most bizarre part of this thing. Yeah. You would think that you would
00:26:21.340
have a professional editor look over it and say, this is a little weird. But again, maybe they were
00:26:26.900
just thinking that most people are like me. I would have never, ever caught any of those things unless you
00:26:32.380
told me to look for them. Yeah. I would have never caught it. And I, even if I had, I wouldn't have
00:26:37.820
thought it was weird. Okay. So going back to the theory that this is a fake photo that they're
00:26:43.780
putting together because they realize, wow, okay, people are worried about Princess Kate. They're
00:26:48.200
talking about where she is. This doesn't look good. We got to put out this photo and say, here she was
00:26:54.440
just earlier this week. Well, there are some theories as Brie alluded to that this is not
00:27:02.180
really Kate sitting there, or this is not really her picture. Some people are saying that they are,
00:27:09.160
they have taken her face from the Vogue cover that was shot a couple of years ago. And that is what
00:27:16.400
they are using for this picture. So again, if you're watching on YouTube, you can see what I'm talking
00:27:23.040
about, how apparently it is like a pixel match. And I'll play a little video that someone posted of
00:27:34.060
this happening. Now Brie, is that possible? Like she's wearing a hat in that Vogue cover. How would it be
00:27:49.500
possible to edit that? And why would they choose that? Why would they choose a picture of her where she's
00:27:55.540
wearing a hat? And then take the hat off? Yeah, it is weird, because you could pick any picture of her,
00:28:01.140
really, that's like straight on. Yeah, I mean, it's definitely possible. I don't know how to do it in
00:28:07.260
Photoshop. And it also is weird to me that someone who would make these Photoshop mistakes would be able to do
00:28:13.480
something like that. But I don't know. I'm kind of convinced it's a very similar, it's a very similar
00:28:20.400
picture. It is a very similar picture. And I do think that if this is what happened, then they were
00:28:28.720
trying to choose a picture of her from straight on where she's not wearing very much makeup, because
00:28:34.100
this is an at home picture. So that could be more, that could be more difficult to find
00:28:40.500
than other pictures. So I could see why they chose that one. But yeah, that would take a lot of skill
00:28:47.680
to make her hair look just the right way. But apparently they couldn't fix the sleeve on Charlotte's
00:28:54.840
sweater. So that to me kind of goes in the camp of maybe it's not edited. However, maybe this hair was
00:29:01.540
the hair of the person who was actually in the photo. It would match Kate that closely? Maybe. Who would
00:29:07.660
this person be? Maybe it's just like a double they brought in to take the photo? I don't know.
00:29:13.460
Okay. So a double that has similar body, similar hair. And they put the face on, they put the face
00:29:21.960
from the Vogue cover on her. Okay. Well, maybe. Maybe. See, I thought, oh, let's talk about the caption
00:29:28.440
for a second. So I thought, my first thought was that I had missed something because she looked very
00:29:36.620
thin to me. Now she always looks thin. She's a small person, but she's sitting down. Okay. She looks
00:29:45.420
very thin. And then the caption is, thank you for your kind wishes and continued support over the last
00:29:51.160
two months. So I was like, wow, they must've announced that she's sick or something, or that it
00:29:55.340
was like this planned abdominal surgery was a really big deal and I missed it. And then of course I saw
00:30:00.120
all of the conspiracies surrounding this. Not that her face looks sick, but I thought that the picture
00:30:07.040
of all of her kids standing while she is sitting and her looking so thin, I thought that it was
00:30:12.360
indicating that she was not feeling well. I don't know. So that's not really a theory. That's just
00:30:19.060
the first observation that I had. But I hadn't thought about the body double thing. I will say
00:30:25.620
that. I will say that. Okay. We've got more, more theories about, there's so much more on this
00:30:32.740
particular picture that sleuthers are sleuthing on. All right. So some people are saying that this
00:30:53.700
photo or the different photos where this photo is from are actually from November, December,
00:31:02.740
2023, not last week. And here are some reasons why people say this. They say that it is from an
00:31:12.680
official appearance that was made last year, launching a Christmas baby banks initiative.
00:31:18.400
But the outfit colors appear to have been modified. And so one person on Twitter says the fashion girl,
00:31:25.020
he solved the true date of the Prince William, the Prince William claims, oh, the photo Prince William
00:31:31.740
claims he took last week. It's from December 2023. This person says that she thinks that it's Will's
00:31:38.260
body that has been swapped for Kate's and the children's clothing manipulated to mislead. I'm not
00:31:42.420
really sure about that. But here's a thread. The Mother's Day photo dated March 10th, 2024 was taken
00:31:51.100
December 2023, she says. And then she shows these photos, which we'll put on YouTube that make it seem
00:31:58.060
like everyone was wearing the same thing that day as they wore in the picture. And then Royal Fashion
00:32:05.720
Police, this is an Instagram account that follows this, posted on their Instagram stories making
00:32:10.580
these comparisons, looking at the daughter, December 2023, what she was wearing and what she was wearing
00:32:17.700
in the photo. The same thing with Louis, I think that's the youngest boy's name, comparing their
00:32:26.300
outfits. Apparently it was the same as December 2023. George, a similar sweater, they call it a
00:32:34.060
jumper over there. And so, and then Kate. Here's the thing though. Here's the thing with this theory,
00:32:42.120
Brie, that people are saying, oh, they're using a photo that was taken a long time ago trying to say
00:32:47.180
it was recent and it's from this day. The outfits aren't the same. They're not the same. They don't
00:32:52.100
even look the same. So I don't understand this theory. Well, that's the argument is that they
00:32:57.480
made them not look the same, that they were the same. And then they photoshopped them to look
00:33:04.000
different. But that there's no, I, I, there's no correlation. Like, I don't understand why just
00:33:11.460
because they're wearing something that was kind of similar three months ago. It must be the exact
00:33:19.260
same outfits that they edited. I don't understand what would be the motivation for that. Why not,
00:33:24.520
if you're going to fake something, why not just make the kids line up in a picture?
00:33:29.100
Yeah, no, that's a good point. I mean, are the kids gone?
00:33:32.920
That's a really good point. That's a really good point. But I guess people's argument is that
00:33:36.980
they didn't even bother taking a new picture. They just used an old one from that day, I guess,
00:33:42.900
supposedly, and edited that rather than maybe getting like a body double or something to play
00:33:50.460
Kate in a photo, in a fake photo, which would be weird for kids to do also. So that's like their
00:33:58.800
theory is that this was just a photo that was already taken. And they just edited it to make
00:34:03.820
it look like it was taken when they said it was.
00:34:06.300
Now, I can appreciate that theory that this was an earlier, that this picture was taken a while ago
00:34:13.560
and not recently, and they just put it out for PR. It wasn't that long ago that the DeSantis's were
00:34:19.740
also called out for that, which I think is a silly thing to call someone out for. They put out a family
00:34:25.080
photo, I don't know, sometime last year. And people were like, this is actually from last summer. Y'all are
00:34:33.360
wearing all the same outfits that you wore in this family picture. And it was but they never they
00:34:38.180
didn't say that it was from that day. But I still think like, I don't know, that happens a lot. So I
00:34:44.120
wouldn't think it was that weird if they did that. I will give this theory that it's actually from this
00:34:50.560
particular day, when the kids are wearing something entirely different than what is in this picture.
00:34:56.660
I will give this theory an F. Oh, yes, I'm sorry. Like that doesn't even make any sense. It doesn't
00:35:02.980
it's not even interesting to me because they're wearing something totally different. So because
00:35:07.200
they're kind of wearing the same color palette, it must be from a day in December. It might be from
00:35:14.240
a day in December, but they did not prove it. That's what I'll say. Now, I will say that Kate's
00:35:20.480
sweater in the wrong color is kind of interesting. And this is what I'm talking about. I like like some
00:35:25.320
additional steps here, some additional pieces of evidence. That's what makes it interesting. So
00:35:30.400
someone on X said, person named Maggie, female internet investigators uncovering the Kate Middleton
00:35:36.940
picture was actually taken in late 2023 based on the match ribbing on Kate Middleton sweater,
00:35:42.080
which is only sold in two colors, white and cream. And therefore, Kate's black sweater was
00:35:47.240
photoshopped. Now, I have no idea how you figure that out. But we do have a sought one that is
00:35:55.280
apparently showing this. Look at these boots and look at the pants. This is the exact sweater.
00:36:02.180
It's from a company called Rice, I believe. And look at that neckline and look at this part right
00:36:07.020
here. I've upped the exposure quite a lot so that you can see the ribbing better. But look how it
00:36:12.100
lands on her like thigh area, the thickness of that belt of the ribbing. And then look at the
00:36:16.780
turtleneck. Yes, I know a lot of turtlenecks look the same. But I do believe that this was
00:36:20.660
photoshopped to be darker. And it was just that cream sweater because they don't make it another color.
00:36:25.280
They make it in cream and in camel. Now, let's look at the boots that she's wearing in this
00:36:28.660
new photo. It's the same exact boots as this baby bank visit that she did with her kids.
00:36:34.480
Okay, so we're back to the baby bank theory. Yes, I know. Maybe in like a wild turn of events,
00:36:41.100
she wore the same shoes twice. Or maybe like there are multiple. You know what I bet I could do right
00:36:48.240
now. Let's see. Navy cowl neck sweater ribbed. Let's see. I bet I could find something. Oh,
00:36:56.880
look, I found quite a few. There's no way that this TikTok sleuth has figured out that there is
00:37:06.900
zero navy or black. I don't know that there is zero black cowl neck ribbed sweaters out there.
00:37:13.320
And so it's not a possibility at all that she could have been wearing a real one.
00:37:18.280
Yeah, I know. It's quite a stretch. I will say I think the closest they get is what Charlotte,
00:37:24.560
the little girl, is wearing. But I'm pretty sure that might just be like her wearing that sweater
00:37:30.920
again. I don't know. Maybe they're not allowed to do that. I don't know.
00:37:34.540
But I don't even think it looks like the exact same sweater. She's not wearing the same skirt.
00:37:41.060
I don't know. See, I appreciate the effort, I guess. But I feel like anyone will believe anything
00:37:49.760
if it's like if someone makes it seem true enough or crazy enough. I don't know. You seem to be,
00:37:59.480
you seem to think that it was from that day, a picture from that public appearance.
00:38:06.080
Yeah, I think there's a case for it. But I think what's more likely is that this was,
00:38:14.360
well, I don't know. It's hard because I don't think they wear the same things very often.
00:38:19.100
So it's weird that they're all wearing very, very similar outfits, I guess, at the same time.
00:38:23.920
But I don't know. I don't know. It's just so bizarre.
00:38:29.680
It's very bizarre. Okay, let's see some more commentary. See, I think that this is also a
00:38:37.360
good point, though, more in the favor of what's really going on. There are multiple headlines
00:38:43.320
from UK news outlets, Mirror, saying Royals must release unedited Kate Middleton photo as
00:38:49.840
integrity of future king and queen at stake. And then also Mirror, Kate Middleton's Mother's Day
00:38:58.060
pic plunges Royals into crisis. Daily Mail, crisis talks, the mea culpa and troubling unanswered
00:39:04.480
questions. How Kate's Mother's Day photo became a PR nightmare. CNN, Kate's photo should have
00:39:09.680
quelled the rumors. Editing it has done exactly the opposite. Kate Middleton was also trending all day
00:39:15.520
on X. I saw Piers Morgan say this, like they need to release the unedited photo, which I agree.
00:39:24.980
Don't you think that that would just quell everything? Just release the picture.
00:39:30.240
If you really just dabbled in Adobe and you accidentally blurred your daughter's sleep,
00:39:38.060
I mean, you don't have to. It's your picture. But here's what Jessica Krause, House and Habit,
00:39:45.780
said. She's followed the Royals for a long time. She said, nothing is quite adding up. I don't
00:39:52.800
believe Kate, who is a skilled and seemingly passionate photographer, would arrange such a
00:39:58.340
sloppy Photoshop edit. They have a million beautiful family photos. Why choose this as image? Why choose
00:40:05.920
this as image to help squash speculation? I also don't believe she wrote that caption,
00:40:12.100
apologizing for it. Okay. Interesting. Let's see. There was, oh, digital editor for Huck Magazine,
00:40:24.040
Ben Smoke. He said, no, he was commenting on this picture. No rings. Kids all have their fingers
00:40:29.760
crossed. Weird blurring on Charlotte's cuffs. Leaves on the trees, despite it being early March.
00:40:36.820
I'm sorry, but they're just asking for us to go full Kate-spiracy at this point. A short video,
00:40:45.800
someone says, a short video of Kate talking would put this entire matter to bed. And the fact they
00:40:51.060
can't produce that is making me think she's either not conscious or she's no longer the princess of
00:40:56.180
Wales, LOL. I mean, that tweet went viral. I don't know about that. Maybe they're just trying
00:41:01.900
to say, we don't respond to public pressure. We're not going to dignify these conspiracy theories.
00:41:09.420
But they did post that picture in response to speculation.
00:41:14.520
Yeah. And they've also released, I think now, two photos that are like very questionable and not
00:41:23.200
Yeah. Well, they would say that they didn't release them.
00:41:26.780
Yes. But that, well, the first one, they, they didn't want anyone to see the one that was
00:41:31.060
supposedly of her in the car. But this last one that they released, I think yesterday of her,
00:41:36.500
like turned to the side that we showed earlier. That one, they're not trying to, that, that one,
00:41:41.520
I think was supposed to be proof of life. And it's not because we can't tell it's her.
00:41:48.460
Yeah. We can't get a picture of her for some reason.
00:41:51.100
And just a reminder, people think that that is from, that's actually either not her or that's
00:41:57.900
from a while ago. So some people are speculating on what really happened here. Less dramatic than
00:42:04.000
saying like, she's not alive or she's not princess of Wales. Some people are saying that she's either
00:42:09.440
gained a lot of weight or she's lost a lot of weight. Heidi Moore, she used to be a writer for
00:42:14.460
the Wall Street Journal. She shares a wide range of theories. She had the most banal explanation
00:42:21.240
would be that Kate is alive and well, but just put on a lot of weight for medication or steroids
00:42:27.060
and her old clothes don't fit and the palace wouldn't allow her to be photographed as anything
00:42:31.260
other than a sylph-like. The second most banal explanation would be that Kate is alive,
00:42:38.000
but not necessarily well. That cancer was discovered in her abdominal area. Gosh, that's
00:42:42.760
awful. And that she had chemo. So all of her hair fell out and they are waiting for it to
00:42:47.360
grow back. The baseline with all the possible explanations, banal or bizarre, is that they
00:42:53.240
hinge on the reality that the palace is being incredibly disrespectful to Kate herself, which
00:42:58.040
is not great. And then she talks about all the different other explanations that maybe she
00:43:04.060
lost a lot of weight, that she has struggled with that in the past, that there could be other
00:43:12.060
sicknesses, other diagnoses that are altering her appearance or her ability to be seen publicly.
00:43:21.600
Some people are speculating that it was plastic surgery that didn't go well. And then there are
00:43:27.720
other theories as well, because unfortunately there has been some reporting about problems with Prince
00:43:38.440
William and Fidelity. This is just a theory that people are throwing out there that is really sad,
00:43:45.000
but I mean, it's interesting in relation to all of this.
00:43:57.720
Okay, Brie, can you tell us a little bit about this mistress theory?
00:44:04.720
Yeah, I'll, with the caveat that I cannot pronounce this person's apparent title because it's so
00:44:19.100
I saw tweets that were like, you can't even imagine how this is pronounced. So I'm not,
00:44:25.120
But anyway, she, rumors have been going around since 2019 that she is William's mistress.
00:44:36.260
They just, I guess they were just rumors that surfaced then. This was when Kate was pregnant
00:44:44.860
Um, and they were never addressed publicly or anything until recently. Um, so what's weird
00:44:51.320
about this is recently the independent recently as in yesterday or two days ago, the independent
00:44:57.460
released a profile on this woman. And, um, some are saying that's weird timing that they would
00:45:03.840
release a profile seemingly glorifying this woman when we don't know where Kate is. Um,
00:45:11.920
so I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. So the theory is Kate goes missing AI doctored image
00:45:18.860
drops. This is a tweet. Now his side piece is getting a PR run. There are signs. So I don't know.
00:45:26.720
I don't know. I think that's, you know, it's really awful that that is even something that is
00:45:33.660
apparently a possibility or, uh, being talked about. We're just saying what people are deducing
00:45:40.280
or the conclusions that they're trying to jump to. That is certainly not an endorsement of like
00:45:45.840
any type of rumor, but, um, that's part of the conversation that's going on here. I am honestly
00:45:53.460
like, I have genuine worry about her and genuine concern that she's okay. And what their poor
00:46:01.460
children are probably going through. I mean, I hope it's just fine. I hope that like, yeah,
00:46:06.200
she's just recovering. Maybe it is some kind of like temporary change in appearance because of
00:46:13.140
surgery, or maybe things were just a lot harder than what she thought. I mean, any kind of abdominal
00:46:18.600
surgery, just as someone who's had a C-section before, like, I know it can be really tough and
00:46:24.160
maybe she's just not up to public appearances. And because they care so much about appearances,
00:46:29.380
even if her, if her appearance has just changed just a little bit, they might say no.
00:46:35.740
Yeah. Yeah. I think that the weight gain weight loss theory actually probably holds the most
00:46:42.140
like validity maybe. Yeah. Unfortunately. If she looks sickly. Yeah. Yeah. Or the other way around
00:46:50.180
too. Like, I just, I wonder if she, the, another theory is that she, this is a darker theory, but that
00:46:58.360
she, maybe there was an affair happening or maybe one of them wanted a divorce or something and she
00:47:04.540
just left and she just doesn't want anything to do with it anymore. And now she's. Yeah. I have
00:47:10.500
seen. Gosh, I really hope that's not true. I know. I know. And there's darker ones too, that she,
00:47:16.320
you know, was committed somewhere. So. Oh gosh. Who's, who knows? But that's the thing is that these
00:47:22.640
kind of rumors fly when there is not clarity. Yeah. And you can say, and theoretically I believe
00:47:29.040
this, that they're entitled to their privacy, that they don't have to share every little update
00:47:35.100
online and that could in some ways make things worse. However, when you are a prince and princess
00:47:41.960
and when you are a figurehead and people are looking to you, you do, I don't know if O is the right word,
00:47:49.900
but it is wise to give some sort of clarity. I think that there would be like a lot of compassion
00:47:57.080
if maybe not, maybe I'm too naive. I mean, the internet is an awful place and I don't understand
00:48:02.980
all of the UK press scene, but if there were just like a little bit more clarity about like, Hey,
00:48:09.880
you know, she's just not, we would love your prayers. She's not doing well right now. This is a
00:48:14.960
harder recovery than we thought. But then at the same time, this could all be a lot more simple.
00:48:21.660
They said, she's not going to make a public appearance until Easter. They could be like,
00:48:25.840
no, we said that we're going to do that. We're not changing it just because all of these freaking,
00:48:31.640
you know, weirdos online and on their podcasts are sharing their conspiracy theories. So just put this
00:48:40.400
photo up from a couple months ago. We'll make some changes to it. Maybe it really was her,
00:48:46.860
but maybe her appearance didn't look as great or whatever. So we'll make some changes to it and
00:48:53.500
we'll release it and people will just have to be okay with it and then we'll move on. And then it
00:48:59.540
ended up blowing up and making the conspiracy theories even worse. Yeah. And maybe she'll just
00:49:05.360
make her public appearance in Easter, you know? Maybe. I hope she shows up. That's the most simple
00:49:12.620
explanation, I think. Yeah. No, I think they, I think they posted the photo. I think they just
00:49:17.820
shouldn't have posted the photo. If they hadn't posted that, then none of this would have, people
00:49:22.120
would still have speculated, but this wouldn't have happened, obviously. And, um, and I think they
00:49:27.120
just don't know how to fix it right now. Yeah. So. Yep. And I guess they can't release that. That's
00:49:34.660
the thing. That is the thing that catches me though, is that they can't release the unedited
00:49:39.900
photo. Yeah. And I wish they would, but there's a reason why they can't either because they don't
00:49:45.500
like how it looks. It's not a real photo. It's going to be a big edit if they're not willing to
00:49:50.240
release it. Because if it's just Charlotte's sleeve or a changed picture, they'd be like, sure,
00:49:55.940
here, sorry. We messed it up. Right. Don't need to edit past midnight, but it's obviously a bigger
00:50:03.920
edit. And the photo kill thing too is what catches me. Yeah. So that's, that's the only thing. Like
00:50:11.680
I'm more in the camp, I would say, of dismissing all of this and just being like, people just have
00:50:18.380
too much time on their hands and like, you know, this is not healthy and it's probably not kind to be
00:50:24.720
saying all these things. But then I think, but, but, but this picture and the photo kill and the
00:50:32.700
not releasing anything that helps, you know, assuage people's concerns. They're releasing
00:50:39.920
the paparazzi picture that was apparently from a few months ago. And yeah, these aren't just like
00:50:45.740
average people. These are people who have influence and people want to know. And it's just interesting.
00:50:51.020
I'm certainly not trying to like disrespect them in any way, but they are a prince and
00:50:58.760
princess. Yeah. And it's interesting. Yeah. I know. And they honestly, the, the royal palace
00:51:07.200
or whatever, whatever their official name is, they should know based on the tabloids with
00:51:12.940
Harry and Megan, how nasty people can be about this family. Yeah. I don't know. They should
00:51:19.040
have, it's hard for me to have like a ton of sympathy for it, to be honest, but I don't
00:51:23.620
have anything against Kate. So I don't have anything. I hope she's fine. Yeah. I hope that
00:51:28.540
she is okay. We should pray for Kate and their poor, sweet children. Their children are so
00:51:33.960
cute. They're such a British family. They look so British. Just every bit of them. So cute.
00:51:42.940
All right, Brie. So we didn't do our, um, rating the dress and the outfits, which very
00:52:01.780
mixed feelings about those segments and the relatable audience. Some people don't like
00:52:06.240
those segments. A lot of, I got a lot of messages last time saying you love those segments
00:52:09.560
cause they're just fun. Um, did you watch the Oscars? I did. What'd you think? Good
00:52:14.400
overall? Uh, kind of boring. How was Ryan Gosling's performance? Okay. I loved it actually.
00:52:22.300
I thought it was really entertaining. The Oscars performances are always so boring because I
00:52:27.420
never, I never think the music is even that good. His was fun. It was entertaining. It was,
00:52:32.760
I mean, it was like everything a performance should be. He was great. Really? He was great.
00:52:38.460
I saw a lot of people complaining about how the, the only thing at the Oscars that came
00:52:43.160
out of Barbie was a performance by all the men in the Barbie movie, which is true, but it
00:52:48.260
was good. It was very charming and cute. So I saw some dresses that looked good. I don't
00:52:55.060
know if I saw any like total disasters. Ariana Grande's was pretty bad. Oh, well, she was
00:53:02.100
wearing a comforter. That's another conspiracy theory or another theory, rabbit hole that
00:53:06.600
people can go down. I know. What in the world? I know. That's not a conspiracy that just happened
00:53:11.260
though. But why? When you become a husband's dealer and a homewrecker, is that what happens
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to you? I guess so. Yeah. Yeah. The anxiety of all of that. I know. Anything else notable happen?
00:53:24.920
Didn't someone say that he didn't like the directors of a Holocaust movie refute their
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Jewishness? Yes. I don't know. I think it was a documentary. I'm not familiar with it,
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but yes, he came up and, and basically said that he refutes like people who refute Jewishness
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in the Holocaust shouldn't be like conflated with, it was something about current events
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in Israel and Palestine. Trying to basically like apologize. Yeah. Kind of like, oh, I'm
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not aligned with Israel just because I'm Jewish. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, there was a lot of Palestine
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Israel talk. There was a lot. They were, the celebrities were so bravely wearing red buttons
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to call for ceasefire. And I'm sure it worked. I bet it worked. Yeah. I heard that Hamas stopped.
00:54:12.640
Yeah. Stopped being terrorists. Because Mark Ruffalo wore a pin. Oh no. See, they told me it
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was because of Billie Eilish. Oh. It wasn't Mark. They were like, eh, Mark. We all have to do our
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part. Yeah. They said it was Billie Eilish calling for a permanent ceasefire. That was the equivalent
00:54:30.000
of saying full stop. When you say full stop at the end of something, that's when everyone's like,
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oh, okay, I will do it. Even Hamas. Yeah. No, I think Hamas was like, okay, girl, gosh,
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calm down. Fine. All I had to do was say so. And then she went and sang a song from Barbie.
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Yeah. They were waiting on Billie to say something. And then when they finally did, they said,
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call it off. Call it quits. No more. No more. Release the hostages. Yep. Gosh. Very stupid
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people in Hollywood. But what else is new? All right. That was kind of a different episode for
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us. I hope that you enjoyed it. I mean, yesterday's episode was kind of scary and like very,
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very serious. Today's episode, it matters because Kate Middleton is a human and she matters, but
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it matters less than America turning into Soviet Russia, I think. Right? All right. That's all we got