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Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey
- April 11, 2024
Ep 984 | Do 30-Year-Old Women 'Hit a Wall'?
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An OnlyFans star has become a Christian. Is it sincere? The internet is weighing in.
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Also, have 30-year-old women hit a wall? Are they no longer attractive in the dating pool?
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We've got all of this and much more on today's episode of Relatable.
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Hey guys, welcome to Relatable. Happy Thursday. Hope everyone is having a wonderful week so far.
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So I didn't get to address this yesterday because it was an interview episode. Go listen to that if
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you haven't already. I just know that it's going to help a specific person out there who needed to
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hear that conversation. Go listen to it. Watch it if you haven't. But my Tuesday comment that I said
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in passing that I don't believe in a pre-trib rapture, it got a lot of you very shaken up.
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And I got a lot of inquisitive comments and messages. Some of you were very angry about it.
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But most of you, the vast majority of comments and messages that I received asking me about that,
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we're very respectful and just curious why I believe that. And we're not going to get into
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that today. I do have an episode on it. It's from 2019, though. And that was my first maternity
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leave. I was a new, fresh podcaster at that point. And while the material is good, I think the content
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and the direction and the organization of the episode is good. And I still believe all of those
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things. It is really difficult. It's really difficult for me, at least, to go back and listen
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to those episodes from that era. So many things. I'm used to listening to my voice now, because I've
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just done this so much. But going back and listening to old episodes, listening to the editing, the audio,
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and just my ability as a host and just, oh my goodness, so many things, so many things. We've come a
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long way, related gals and related bros. But I still think that it's helpful information. I researched
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a lot for that episode and relied on a lot of very reliable, trustworthy sources. So you can go back
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and listen to that. But I will do another episode explaining all of the different eschatological views,
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pre-mill, post-mill, ah-mill, pre-mill, pre-trib, post-trib, pre-mill, all of that stuff. If you have no
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idea what I'm talking about, that's fine. And the important thing to remember is that in all of these
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views, everyone who holds a particular view believes that they are doing so based on scripture. And this
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is not a salvation issue, and yet it is very important for us to study it because it increases
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our anticipation and it informs how we behave today. So sometime soon, I will do another eschatology
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episode. And some of you who are post-mill, you've said, oh, have a post-mill person on. I have. I had
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Jeff Durbin on. We had a two-part series. We talked about this, I think, in 2020 or 2021. Chances are,
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if there is a subject that you want me to address that I probably already have. Not that we've talked
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about everything from every angle, but we're almost at a thousand episodes. So we've talked about most
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subjects. And the easiest way to verify this is to type in wherever you listen to your podcast. I
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think this is easier on Apple Podcasts than it is on YouTube or Spotify. If you type in relatable and
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then the subject that you're looking for, typically it comes up. So if you type in relatable in times,
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that episode will come up. If you type in relatable, critical race theory or whatever,
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those episodes will come up. So that's just a little helpful tip for you. I know, I know. It
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is very disconcerting to hear that your favorite Southern Baptist podcaster does not believe in the
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pre-trib rapture. And yet, and yet, we will talk about it fully soon. All right. We've got a lot to
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get through today. I've been wanting to talk about all of these subjects. I don't even think we're going
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to get through all of the things that I want to talk about. But I want to chime in on this online
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discourse about women in their 30s hitting a wall, if you will. Now, this has been a conversation
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among what I would call like manosphere red pillars for a while. And there is a group of people online
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who fall into this category, maybe not everyone who falls into this category, but certainly a subset of
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this category, who truly just don't like women. It's not that they're anti-feminist. It's not that
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they just think the divorce laws or family court are unfair. It's not just that. It's not like all
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these thoughtful critiques. Again, some of them probably have some thoughtful critiques. But a lot
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of them don't. They really just don't like women. And they really feel that women are the drivers and
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even the source of all of society's problems. And they spend a lot of time demeaning women,
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what they look like, what they sound like, what they think like. And they're extremely crass,
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extremely crude, extremely rude. And they participate and peddle in the worst kind of
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identity politics. And then when the polls come around, you know, after an election, and they see,
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well, the majority of women are leaning left or they're voting Democrat, they cry about that.
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And they say, well, see, they're driving all of society's problems, but they are doing the exact
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opposite of attracting women to their ideas. So this has kind of been a conversation about women
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hitting their wall for a while. And the wall is basically the point at which women, and apparently
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this doesn't really exist for men, the women reach the point where they are no longer getting more
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attractive or gaining more value in the eyes of a potential mate and are kind of on the back end.
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So they're on the downhill. Their looks are getting worse. The attraction or attractiveness that they
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have to a guy is getting less and less, and they are no longer seen as kind of the cream of the crop.
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They've passed their prime. And there are some disagreements about what this age is. Some
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people say it's 26. Some people say it's 30. Some people say it's 35. Some people say
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it's 40. And so there are some conversations, some kind of interesting, some not interesting at all,
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and just downright objectifying and degrading happening online. And this was reignited over the
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last week or so because of some comments that conservative Charlie Kirk made. And I'm going
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to talk about not only what he said, but I'm going to give context to what he said, because
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I think that that's missing in a lot of these conversations. And my response won't really be
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to as much what he said specifically, but to just the conversation and the topic as a whole that I think
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is actually really important for my audience in particular that I know is made up of mostly women.
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There's plenty of related bros out there, but mostly women. Most of you are married. A lot of you are
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moms, but many of you are not. And it's hard enough out there. And I just want to make sure that we are
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on the same page as Christian women when it comes to your value, your calling, and your responsibility.
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And we can drown out some of the unhelpful chatter, but also maybe take some difficult truths and apply
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them where needed. So first, let's talk about what Charlie Kirk said. He runs Turning Point USA,
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and I consider Charlie a friend. He has been on the podcast many times. We have spoken together. I
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speak at Turning Point events several times a year. He is truly one of the smartest and most
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articulate guys out there. You should go listen to the Whatever podcast that Charlie was on. He did
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such a great job of sharing the gospel and defending the faith. But recently, he was at an event,
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and he was answering questions. It was a Q&A. And he made this comment about women in their 30s that
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ended up kind of going viral, generating a lot of controversy on X. Here's top one.
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We basically told a great generation of young women, don't get married, don't have kids,
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go get a corporate job. And it's created mass political hysteria. And then in their early 30s,
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they get really upset because they say, you know, the boys don't want to date me anymore
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because they're not at their prime. And people get mad when I say that, which is true. If you're
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in your early 30s, I'm sorry. It's like you're not as attractive in the dating pool as you were in
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the early 20s. But again, you have your corporate job in Cats. So I thought, you know.
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All right. All right. I got a lot to say to that.
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All right. He also had some other comments about birth control, that it really screws up female
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brains. And he encouraged people to make sure that their loved ones are not on birth control. And
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look, like I agree with a lot of what Charlie Kirk said. And actually, in context, I probably agree
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with all of it in a sense, in a sense. So let me explain exactly what I mean by that. Let's break
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down his comments a little bit. So this generation of women, I would say generations of women have
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been fed this idea that it is more important for you to make money and to be independent and to live
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on your own in your 20s and your 30s. And then you are going to find a guy who wants to marry you.
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You're going to settle down. You're going to be able to have kids. And you can spend the next 10 to
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20 years doing it all or balancing both. And that is a lie that has absolutely caused mass hysteria.
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That is a lie that has caused a lot of disappointment and devastation when women reach the age of 35
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and they realize if they have purposely put their career first and put off commitment, put off
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marriage, put off dating, put off having kids, only to realize then that the guys around them
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at 35 years old are not dating 35 year olds, but they are dating the 27 year old who is not deciding
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to put her career first. Or the 35 year old realizes that, oh, my chances now of getting pregnant
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are a lot lower than they were 10 years ago. Did I mess this all up? And now possibly I'm
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being told that I have to harvest my eggs. I have to freeze them and I have to go through IVF. That's
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a lot on someone's body. And of course, we won't get into the ethics of all of that right now,
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as we've talked about many, many times, the problems with IVF. But that is the dilemma that a lot of
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women are facing. So that is what Charlie is speaking to. Now, if I were to take this out of
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context and just respond to the part where he said, well, you said that you were fine with your
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corporate job and you're a cat, so that's okay. I want to address that to you because he is speaking
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to a certain kind of woman that I just described who intentionally chose her career over settling down,
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over getting married and having kids. But if I am speaking to you, I know that that last comment
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doesn't apply to you or to most of you. I would venture to guess that the vast majority of you
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listening to this show that are in your late 20s or your 30s and you are unmarried and you don't have
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kids, that you are not in this situation because you want to be. You are not in this situation,
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most likely, because you imbibed feminist propaganda and you put your career first and
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you became this girl boss who had her blinders on and wasn't interested in a relationship or
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interested in having kids. If you're listening to this podcast, my guess is that you are single
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because that is the circumstance, that is the situation that God has placed you in. And it is not
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for lack of trying. It is not for lack of preparing. It is not for lack of praying that you are right
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now in this season of singleness. And so hearing something like you're 30 and you're past your prime
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and you're not as attractive to men, that is understandably extremely offensive and extremely
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hurtful. Now, some of it is just plain true in that, yes, we become less fertile over the age
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of 35. That is just true. And unfortunately, I mean, it is true that a lot of men in their 30s are
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looking to date women in their 20s. That is just, I think, a fact of reality that many women have to
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reckon with. But listen, this is also true. That God has written every single day of your life before
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any of them came to be. That God is completely sovereign. Romans 8.28 is still true. That God works
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everything together for the good of those who love him and are called according to his purpose.
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It is also true that God sees you. That God hears you. That he has not forgotten about you. That he
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knows even better than you do the desires of your heart. And he knows what today holds, what tomorrow
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holds, what the future holds. And he has done more difficult things than bringing a woman, a husband
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at the age of 35. That is not too hard for him. That is not too difficult for him. That is not
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too much of an obstacle for him to overcome. And I know that Charlie Kirk, by the way, would agree with
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that. And so before we take offense to his comments, we have to understand the context of what he's talking
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about in critiquing feminism, critiquing the propagandistic lies that a lot of young women have
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heard and the consequence of those lies. And the particular kind of woman that he's talking about,
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again, that has intentionally chosen to put off marriage and children and all of that. But when I
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am speaking to you, Christian woman, and all the Christian women that I know in my life who are
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wonderful, who would make and hopefully will make wonderful wives and moms, like I know that those
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comments are hurtful to you in your particular situation. And I just want to remind you of God's
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goodness and of God's total power and total control and total sovereignty. That the culture that we're in,
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the culture wars that are being waged right now, the dating scene, the horror that's on dating apps,
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the seeming lack of choices out there for when it comes to men that you would actually want to date
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and to marry, none of these things are inhibitions to God. Remember Job 42.2, no purpose of God's can
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be thwarted. Now, I also want to say that you are not guaranteed. None of us, you know, before we are
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married is guaranteed marriage. No one is guaranteed children. Even if we desire these things, our desire
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is not an indication that God will fulfill that desire how we want him to. And so understanding
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that, that life is filled with unmet and unfulfilled desires, even really good desires. It is a great
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desire to be married, to want to be married. It is a great desire to want to have kids. But we reject
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this kind of prosperity gospel that says, well, because I want it and because I've done the right
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things and I've followed the rules, God is indebted to me. I am entitled to God's gifts. That is a lie
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and is going to send you down a spiral of continued heartbreak and disappointment to where you're not
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only feeling betrayed by possibly men in your life, but you're feeling betrayed by God himself and God will
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never betray you. And he has never made the promise that he is going to give us everything we want. He
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offers us something far better. He offers us himself. He offers us his faithfulness. He offers us his
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presence. He offers us the spirit powered ability to endure even through the seasons of sadness and
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singleness and waiting and doubt and suffering that we don't want to be in. So that's the hope that we
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have. And I would just remind you, my single sister, that motherhood and marriage is not when life starts.
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It's not when life begins for you. You are not in a perpetual holding pattern. Like you are not in just a
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season of waiting. You are also called to work while you wait. God knows the desires of your hearts.
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You can continue to pray for that, but at the same time, you've got to release it with an open hand.
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Okay? And so just realize like that your sanctification, God's calling on your life, the purpose that he has
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for you. It's unfolding right now, minute by minute. You are not more valuable to God, more productive
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for God just because you get married or have kids. You have not failed to fulfill your calling as a
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woman if God does not bring you a husband or allow you to have children. You are not any less of a woman.
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You are not any less a daughter of God before you get there. Or if you never get there, understand
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that, that our highest calling as women, our highest calling as women is to glorify God with our lives.
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And we can do that right now. It's actually a lie of Satan for you to believe that your Christian life
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doesn't really start until you get married or have kids. So understand that. And just remember,
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remember this too. This is not a quote from the Bible by any means. This is just an ally-ism.
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And maybe someone told me this before I got married. I don't remember, but it's certainly been true in
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my life and in a lot of my friends' lives who thought that they would never meet someone and then they did
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and they got married. Here's just a tidbit. A lot can happen in a year. Just remember that. No, I don't know
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if you're ever going to get married. I don't know. I don't know. But neither do you. That's what I'll say.
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Neither do you. So you moping around and saying you're never going to find someone and Bumble and Hinge
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are so awful and there are no good guys in the entire city or state where you dwell, that's certainly not
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helping anything either. That's like when Sarai laughed at God when he said, oh yeah, you're going
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to become pregnant. I know you're like 90 years old, but you are going to become pregnant. He called
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her out on it. It's a very funny story in Genesis. You should go read it. He said, oh yeah, you did laugh
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and she denied it. And he was like, no, you did laugh. We don't need to be laughing at God. We don't need
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to be dismissing the power that he has. And you cannot see the future. A lot can happen in a year.
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You literally could, if God has ordained it, meet an amazing guy tomorrow and be planning your wedding
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this time next year. You have no idea. You have no idea. And again, another practical, a practical piece
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of advice that I would say, because we can do practical, wise things if our desire is to get
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married and to have kids one day, go where the Christian men are. Go where the Christian men are.
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Most Christian men, most are not on Bumble and Hinge. Certainly not on Tinder. They're probably not
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at the bars. They're probably not. Not the men that you want to settle down with and get married to.
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They are probably at church. They are maybe at the gym. That's where I met my husband.
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It was like a Christian gym. And so it was a great place to meet a guy. Put yourself in a situation
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where you will meet a like-minded man. Again, that's no guarantee, but it gives you a much better
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chance. And look, I will just say that I don't envy single women right now. I don't. I do think
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that it has gotten much more difficult dating than it was when I was dating 10 years ago now. Wow,
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I'm so old. It's gotten a lot different. Like the internet has changed the game. This red pill nonsense
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has changed the game. Guys seem to be more immature for longer. But look, culture has always had weak
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men and has always had bad women. Like I think the dating pool has probably been worse throughout
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history than it is right now. And God has his people and he has his sons and daughters and he is
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sanctifying them. And I believe 100% that there are amazing, responsible, smart, women-respecting,
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porn-free, hardworking guys out there. And look, guys, there are some amazing women out there. And I
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will say to guys, don't just go for the 25-year-old, don't limit your pool and your selections to only
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25-year-olds. There are some women, amazing women, who are in their 30s and late 20s. We don't need to
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be getting our direction from Twitter discourse about value and what a woman actually brings to
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the table. Just ensure that you are viewing people through the lens of the knowledge that they are
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made in the image of God and that God determines their worth, not Twitter, not social media, not
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anything like that. I remember that too for you ladies, is that God determines your worth, not any
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of the chatter online. All right. So I just wanted to make sure that in case any of you were observing
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any of that rhetoric, that you remembered what is true about all of this. And again, I think Charlie
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Kirk would probably agree with everything that I said. All right. Now we've got another online
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conversation to talk about and it's much bigger than an online conversation, but a lot of the
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discussion is again happening on Twitter and that's an OnlyFans model, Nala Ray. She left her OnlyFans
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career to follow Jesus. She recently did an interview with Michael Knowles on the Daily Wire and a lot of
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people are saying, eh, I don't really know if this is genuine.
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Okay. Former OnlyFans model. This is from Christian Post and churchleaders.com. A former OnlyFans model,
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Nala Ray, has left the adult entertainment industry following a profound spiritual awakening,
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which culminated in her baptism and recommitment to her Christian faith. OnlyFans is particularly
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known for its porn content with many creators using the platform to upload and monetize sexually
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explicit photos, videos, and performances. She also had a TikTok account with over 440,000 followers.
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But recently, a few months ago, she announced that she was quitting OnlyFans, becoming a Christian,
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and she was baptized in December. Here's thought two.
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Your biggest fantasy is...
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Not even my biggest. It's like one of my fantasies.
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Okay. So if you didn't see that, the first part was when she was on the Whatever podcast talking
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about being an OnlyFans model not too long ago and how she's dressed, certainly looks like a porn star.
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And then in the second part of that video, she is being baptized, which is really amazing.
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And the text says,
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This is my testimony. No matter what you've done, said, or believed, Jesus saves.
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She told Fox News in a recent interview that she grew up as a pastor's child, ventured into OnlyFans
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in 2020, leaving her job as an orthopedic surgery scheduler. Her ascent to the top 1% of earners on
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OnlyFans was swift, yet it led to a critical assessment of her life's direction. She said that
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she was making $330,000 a month, which is just mind-boggling. She said that her disillusionment
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with the industry grew as she observed its exploitative nature, particularly the way it
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allows men to control and profit from women's bodies. Her journey towards spiritual renewal
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gained momentum through interactions with a man she described as her partner, who is apparently a
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devout Christian. She met in October through TikTok. She said he provided support through prayer and
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biblical guidance. And she said, I was reaching out to God and like, wow, my life is a mess. I feel
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so lonely. This is not what I should be doing with my life. She says, I ended up getting saved,
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getting baptized, and I believe later December. I can't even tell you how much my life has changed
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since then. Everything in my life has just kind of come to this room where I can now observe it and
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then be like, okay, so I don't really want to do this anymore. I knew that this isn't what God wanted
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me to do with my life. Ray's decision to leave OnlyFans was complicated by logistical issues such
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as awaiting tax documentation, which temporarily kept her account active. She made a symbolic gesture
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by posting a Christian video signaling her intent to sever ties with the platform once her obligations
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were fulfilled. So she grew up actually as a Baptist. And I just want to say this as an aside and an
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encouragement for you parents out there who maybe have a prodigal son or daughter. You have a child
00:28:03.760
who is a stray. You did everything that you could to raise them and the Lord to disciple them. Or maybe
00:28:09.100
you thought that you were doing the best that you could at the time, and they have now walked away
00:28:17.240
from the faith. And you're looking back and you're thinking, okay, I could have done that differently.
00:28:22.240
I could have done that better. Oh my goodness. Where did I go wrong? How did I fail? And while all
00:28:28.140
of us, of course, I mean, none of us is a perfect parent. All of us could have done and could be
00:28:33.060
doing things better. At the end of the day, God is totally sovereign. Like he is sovereign over
00:28:40.520
salvation. And here's some encouragement to you is that I so often see him working through someone's
00:28:49.300
Christian upbringing to bring them back to church. I see that so often from people who decided after
00:28:55.840
they deconstructed or decided after they walked away and they had a period of just wanting to be
00:29:01.220
free in their sin, whatever it was. Because they were raised in a Christian home, God uses those hymns
00:29:09.920
that their mom sung them before bedtime, those Bible verses that they had to memorize in vacation Bible
00:29:15.100
school to recall the memory of truth and to bring them back to the foundation that was laid for them.
00:29:23.880
So just remember that parents who have a child who is not walking with the Lord right now,
00:29:31.720
your discipleship of them was not for naught. It was not for nothing. It was not wasted. First of all,
00:29:38.740
it was obedience to God because we are called to disciple our children. But secondly, you laid a
00:29:44.760
foundation for them that God may very well use to bring them back to the faith. And so this,
00:29:53.740
her story of being raised a Christian, walking away, it is very, it's very common. But also this is
00:30:01.020
another common part of it, um, is that her parents divorced when she was 11. Um, and so divorce also
00:30:09.600
causes massive destabilization for children. And that kind of instability leads to all kinds of
00:30:17.680
problems. It can, it doesn't always, but statistically it very often does leads to lead to all kinds of
00:30:23.340
problems. But then it was later that her dad became a Baptist pastor. Um, and so she shared her
00:30:28.760
testimony, all of this testimony on the Michael Knowles show. And she also addressed that she's
00:30:35.420
gotten a lot of pushback on Twitter and she has, I've seen this. So here's one example, uh, controlled
00:30:41.320
neo. I don't know some blue check mark on Twitter, Christian to believe this woman can truly be saved.
00:30:46.320
The naivete of conservative Christians is driving more people towards atheism and Islam. The same
00:30:52.700
naivete that is making your society crumble, except anything and fall, except everything and fall
00:30:58.620
for anything. Laura Loomer, who is not a Christian says these only fan girls can pray their slutty
00:31:04.900
behavior away all they want. They will never be respectable, no matter how much they cry to God.
00:31:09.880
Praying to be a respectable person doesn't work. Once you do sex work, it's best that we shun women
00:31:16.540
like this from society forever. Again, Laura Loomer knows nothing of the gospel or Christianity at all.
00:31:22.980
Uh, Pearl Davis says, Michael Knowles, what a great commercial for her OnlyFans, which still isn't
00:31:29.320
deleted. However, community notes on that tweet says, Nala's OnlyFans page is not active, actually.
00:31:37.020
Um, Ian Miles Chong said, uh, completely sociopathic. Would you believe that she's now being heavily
00:31:42.180
promoted and touted as the next major traditional Christian conservative influencer? I was just,
00:31:46.520
there's a shortage of good conservative women. What, um, there were, there were many others,
00:31:52.920
many others who said that she needed to pay her penance in order to really be saved or considered
00:31:59.220
a Christian. Um, so here is Nala addressing some of those things in Sot 3. What is the fruit that I'm
00:32:06.120
producing right now? Is it bitter and dying or is the fruit that I'm producing sweet? And is it growing
00:32:14.420
in the soil that I have, um, in right now? It's definitely stirring something in people's hearts,
00:32:19.920
whether they can explain it or not. But I'm here to say, your explanation is Christ. Go to Christ.
00:32:26.740
If you really believe that I am fake, you go to Christ with that. You know what I'm saying?
00:32:32.320
And you should be praying for me. So she's right. I mean, if you think that she's fake,
00:32:37.960
then you should be, we should be praying for her. Now, I don't know her. I haven't talked to her
00:32:42.540
personally. Um, we've reached out to her because I love people's testimonies and I would love to
00:32:48.460
talk to her about it. I don't say that I don't know whether she's sincere because I think that
00:32:54.940
she's not. It's just because I don't know her and I haven't talked to her. Um, and so, and I haven't
00:33:01.660
looked enough, you know, into her testimony to try to verify it. That's not, you know, what I'm trying
00:33:07.060
to do here. If she says that she's a Christian, then I am going to be hopeful about that. And I
00:33:15.760
mean, in the same way with Kanye West, when anyone with a public platform who was so far in one
00:33:21.700
direction says that they are a Christian, like I am very, I'm going to very hopefully accept that.
00:33:28.340
Now, obviously with Kanye West, I mean, I can see now that it doesn't look at all,
00:33:33.260
at least from the fruit that he's showing us, like he is following Christ. I don't regret being
00:33:38.180
excited about the Christian music that he was putting out at the time or the church services
00:33:44.040
that he was hosting, even though he did have Joel Osteen one time or some of the gospel sharing that
00:33:50.700
he did. Um, I do agree though, with any kind of hesitance to hoist someone up as like the new
00:34:01.380
Christian celebrity or the leading Christian commentator. And I'm not saying that that's what
00:34:07.380
people are doing for Nala, but it does seem to me that when someone has this kind of dramatic story
00:34:14.820
of repentance, that it would be better for them and better for their sanctification to leave the
00:34:22.300
spotlight for a period of time and, um, to really just grow in their faith before they start teaching,
00:34:33.040
before they start a new platform to, um, instruct people on Christian theology. I do think it is
00:34:42.600
important to have that like private, humble, in the background season of sanctification. Now,
00:34:51.380
I I'm not saying that's a hard and fast rule. I'm not the person who gets to set the rules on that,
00:34:57.240
but it does seem to me like that is probably wise. And so I can understand maybe that critique. Now,
00:35:05.320
I'm not even, I don't even know if she's trying to become like the leading public voice of Christianity,
00:35:10.340
but I think that that's like a fair assessment, a fair critique. What I cannot get on board with
00:35:18.380
is this gracelessness, this anti-gospel message from some people online who profess to be believers.
00:35:25.360
I didn't even read all the tweets. And then other people who clearly are not believers, um, saying
00:35:30.940
that, no, this person is too far gone. This person cannot really be saved. They can't really be accepted
00:35:39.540
as a Christian, that they need to do something to prove themselves worthy of the label of Christianity.
00:35:49.380
Like that is the opposite of what Christianity is. That is not the gospel. Recall the thief on the cross
00:35:58.300
whose faith, uh, God used to save him. Jesus said to that thief, to the side of him on his own cross,
00:36:09.080
today you will be with me in paradise. Um, we read throughout scripture when Jesus is interacting
00:36:18.680
with the woman of the night who washes his feet with oil and tears. When he speaks to the adulterous
00:36:27.060
woman at the well, uh, he calls these women to repentance. He calls these women to faith. Um,
00:36:35.540
but it is not through their cleaning themselves up. It is not through their own self-powered, uh,
00:36:45.780
process of righteousness or making themselves clean that they have become acceptable to God.
00:36:53.960
Remember, he who knew no sin became sin. So we might become the righteousness of God. So God,
00:37:01.420
Jesus took on our sin. He died to the death that we should have died. He paid the debt that we owed so
00:37:10.800
that we could become the righteousness of God. He has justified us before a holy God. He has made us
00:37:19.640
holy. He has made us clean his work on the cross. The blood that he shed is completely sufficient for
00:37:27.280
that. It was sufficient for Saul who turned to Paul, who had spent years of his life violently
00:37:34.460
persecuting Christians, approving their execution. Then he had the Damascus road encounter with Jesus
00:37:42.660
in which he realized, Oh my goodness, this sin that I have been committing is egregious. And he became
00:37:49.120
the greatest evangelist that has ever existed. Yes, Paul had sanctification and increasingly becoming
00:37:57.280
more obedient to Christ and becoming more like Christ through the strength of the Holy Spirit. But
00:38:03.100
at the moment of his conversion, he was justified. He became, yes, a saint. He became a member with,
00:38:11.960
a member of the household of God. He became a co-heir with Christ. He became a son of God. And that is
00:38:22.140
what all of us are when, by grace through faith, we have been made alive in Christ. And so let me read
00:38:31.720
you a passage that, gosh, we've read so much on this podcast, and that is Ephesians 2. This just reminds us
00:38:41.600
that we really have no room to say, well, that person is too far off. That person is too far gone.
00:38:47.040
They can't be saved by the gospel. Because, I mean, we read really clearly what that gospel is and
00:38:53.120
where we all fall within it. So, and you were dead. This is Ephesians 2. And you were dead in the
00:39:00.040
trespasses and sins in which you once walked, following the course of this world, following
00:39:04.240
the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that is now at work in the sons of disobedience,
00:39:08.420
among whom we all once lived in the passions of our flesh, carrying out the desires of the body
00:39:13.380
and the mind, and were by nature children of wrath like the rest of mankind. So that's all of us.
00:39:19.640
All of us at one point were dead in our sin. There aren't different levels of dead. You are either
00:39:26.040
dead or you are alive. And we read in Ephesians 2 that before Christ, we are all dead in our sin.
00:39:31.580
We are all sinking with the stench of death and decay. But God, being rich in mercy because of
00:39:39.980
the great love with which he loved us, even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive
00:39:44.440
together with Christ. By grace, you have been saved and raised us up with him and seated us with him
00:39:49.500
in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, so that in the coming ages, he might know the immeasurable
00:39:54.460
riches of his grace and kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. For by grace, you have been saved.
00:40:00.100
And here's the thing, I don't think most people understand grace. You don't earn it. You cannot
00:40:06.680
earn it. By definition, it is a gift given to you freely because of no merit that you have on your
00:40:12.820
own. For by grace, you have been saved through faith, and this is not your own doing. Here's how
00:40:19.820
many times, here's how important this is to God. He emphasizes it in so many different ways. For by grace,
00:40:25.660
you have been saved through faith, and this is not your own doing. It is the gift of God. So three
00:40:30.860
ways to say grace right there. Not a result of works, there's four, so that no one may boast.
00:40:37.200
For we are his workmanship, there's another one, created in Christ Jesus for good works,
00:40:42.880
which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them. So the good works are a product of our faith,
00:40:47.540
not a prerequisite for our salvation. It's a product of our faith, not a prerequisite for
00:40:53.320
our salvation. And even those good works that we do as a product of our faith are actually ordained by
00:40:58.840
God beforehand, and he empowers us to do so we can't even take credit for those. So none of us
00:41:05.520
have the ability, the authority to boast about any good that we've done, any righteousness that we have,
00:41:11.680
because it all comes from Christ. And that is the good news. And I don't expect people who are not
00:41:18.800
Christians to understand that. And I'm sorry that they are using that to bludgeon people like her or
00:41:28.860
anyone else who they think are just too far gone. Like, that's the beauty of the gospel, that we could not
00:41:35.940
make ourselves clean. We could not ascend the proverbial hill to God, that he had to descend,
00:41:44.180
come down the proverbial hill, take on flesh, and die a gruesome death on the cross for our behalf.
00:41:53.500
And because we were dead in our sin, he had to make us alive in Christ by grace through faith.
00:41:59.860
2 Corinthians 5.17, Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed
00:42:08.420
away. Behold, the new has come. Praise God. So if Nala is saved by grace through faith, she is a sister
00:42:18.520
in Christ. She is a saint and a member of the household of God. Praise the Lord. And she is in
00:42:25.580
a better position right now than the most chaste non-Christian when it comes to her ultimate fate.
00:42:47.060
Now, we can also acknowledge that there are very real earthly consequences to sin. And
00:42:55.260
we don't necessarily get to escape all of those consequences when we become a Christian. Like,
00:43:02.860
it is true that unfortunately, Nala will be reminded of her past through the images that will live
00:43:11.040
forever on the internet, through the videos that will live forever on the internet. Unfortunately,
00:43:16.180
there's not very much that she can do about that. And she will carry the scars and the memories of the
00:43:24.100
sexual sins that she has committed and the knowledge that she at one point purposely, you know, tempted
00:43:32.780
men into lust. And like, having those regrets, what the Bible calls godly grief, is a real part of
00:43:41.360
repentance. It's part of that Holy Spirit conviction. And thankfully, once we get to heaven, we don't have
00:43:47.260
to worry about that guilt and godly grief. But it's not necessarily a bad thing to feel that guilt.
00:43:54.260
Now, you don't have to feel overwhelming shame because it doesn't define you. You are a new
00:44:00.240
creation. And Satan, the accuser, will use your past sins to try to deny the reality of your new identity
00:44:06.480
in Christ and try to disempower you from obeying him and just tell you, you know, you're always going to
00:44:13.220
be an addict. You're always going to be a prostitute. You're always going to be a cheater. You're always going
00:44:19.720
to be a liar, whatever. He wants you to think those things so that you do not have the power and the
00:44:25.160
strength and the energy to obey Christ. But all of those things are lies. However, the guilt that comes
00:44:31.300
from conviction from the Holy Spirit and the knowledge that the past sins that we did were indeed bad, that I
00:44:38.300
think is a good thing. Some people get confused about that. Like after we become a Christian, we
00:44:42.700
shouldn't have guilt about anything that we did before we were Christians or any sin that we've
00:44:46.300
committed. That's not true. We should look back at those past sins and yes, be ashamed of them, of
00:44:52.440
those sins, even if that doesn't change our knowledge of our new identity in Christ. And so the earthly
00:45:01.340
consequences of sin are real and we do bear those absolutely. And like we can look at a story like
00:45:10.360
that, like young people can look at a story like that and say, okay, so selling your body is not
00:45:17.160
empowering. So making a ton of money through your bodily autonomy and being a pornographic girl boss,
00:45:25.780
that's not actually fulfilling. Oh, sexual liberation and money isn't all there is to life.
00:45:32.460
Oh, that doesn't make someone happy. I mean, it's a tale as old as time. And so I do think that there
00:45:39.060
are some lessons to be learned from that. But then also the humility and realizing that we were all
00:45:45.920
once far off from Christ. And how amazing is it in all the interactions that Jesus has in the New
00:45:52.340
Testament that the gospel writers inspired by the Holy Spirit included so many interactions of Jesus
00:45:59.520
with adulterous women? The woman who was caught in adultery at the end of John 8, again, the woman at
00:46:06.520
the well, the woman of the night who was washing his feet with her tears. And while of course Jesus
00:46:13.520
upholds the biblical sexual ethic and believes in holy sexuality, he treated these women with so much
00:46:20.900
tenderness and so much care and so much attention and so much love. And so when we look at the gospels
00:46:29.080
and we look at these accounts, we see the example of how we should be addressing and talking to these
00:46:37.480
women who are in sexual sin or who used to be in sexual sin. It's not from a place of hate and anger
00:46:46.560
in malice. Remember Romans 2. Go read Romans 2. It is God's kindness that leads us to repentance.
00:46:57.340
And also there's a lot in there about like what judgment actually looks like. Good judgment versus
00:47:02.740
sinful judgment. And so I think that's probably a good refresher for everyone. So that's my take on
00:47:09.980
this. I mean, I do pray for Nala. Becoming a Christian and giving everything up when you are making
00:47:16.700
hundreds of thousands of dollars, when something has become a persona, it's become a brand for you, it's
00:47:22.860
become really who you are, who people see you as when it's tied with your success and your stability to give
00:47:29.840
all of that up for Christ. That's tough to do. That is tough to do. And so I'm just so thankful for her
00:47:37.240
testimony. And I just pray that she, um, she's got her ESV study Bible and that she is plugged into a
00:47:45.960
local church. I don't know if she is still with this guy who originally led her to Christ. Um, but
00:47:51.680
I pray that her faith is not tied to that person, but that it is truly tied to Jesus Christ, who is the
00:47:59.340
same yesterday, today, and forever. So yeah, I'm just thankful. I'm always going to be thankful for
00:48:06.000
these kinds of testimonies and just pray that the Lord would, uh, continue to, continue to use her.
00:48:14.040
Um, okay. So I think I've spent a plenty of time, like comforting women in this episode.
00:48:18.860
And I think that these moms that I'm about to talk about need some tough love because there's
00:48:23.920
this phenomenon, apparently, um, the rise of the canna moms. Okay. Moms who smoke weed. Okay.
00:48:31.400
Cannabis moms. And there are several outlets who are reporting on this. I think I saw this first on
00:48:36.380
motherly, um, high on motherhood, the rise of canna moms. The 2023 study conducted by the Harris
00:48:42.260
poll for cannabis retailer Medman enterprises found that more than one third of American women
00:48:46.400
over 21 consume cannabis. And apparently there are, um, many moms also who are engaging with this.
00:48:55.880
They talked to Kaylee, a 41 year old mother and entrepreneur cannabis. She said that cannabis helps
00:49:00.340
her manage challenging moments with her five-year-old daughter. I take a hit and then I'll
00:49:04.080
be able to say, I'm sorry. That's not how I wanted to handle things. Oh my gosh. I cannot hate this
00:49:09.320
more. Uh, I found that I've had some of the sweetest, most engaged moments with my daughter
00:49:14.520
when I'm a little bit high. Oh my goodness. Women. Um, the ABC news. This is actually from a few years
00:49:24.260
ago. Weed moms are the new wine moms. The wine mom culture has long been the source of many a mommy
00:49:29.500
meme with largely socially, uh, and largely socially acceptable marijuana using mom. They're stepping
00:49:34.080
out of the shadows and proudly extolling the virtues of cannabis. And so it goes on and on
00:49:38.980
about these moms who have to use marijuana in order to get through the day. Okay, guys, we've had
00:49:45.940
problems. You know, that meme, uh, or we have problems currently as, as a species. Um, you know,
00:49:53.200
that meme about men, like men will do X, Y, Z before they'll go to therapy. Okay. Well, women
00:50:00.200
will do X, Y, Z, AKA smoke weed before they get their stuff together, before they go to church,
00:50:07.220
before they find Jesus. Okay. If you need wine, you need alcohol, you need drugs, you need a substance
00:50:14.320
to get through the day as a mom, to go through your normal responsibilities as a mother, then there
00:50:21.200
is something happening there. There is something wrong with your nervous system that probably has
00:50:28.620
to do with not your physical health or even your mental health necessarily. There is something
00:50:34.860
spiritual. There's something profound going on there. There's something going on in your
00:50:39.160
circumstances that is not allowing you to self-regulate and to exhibit the patience that you
00:50:45.820
need to handle your five-year-old. Motherhood is hard. Kids are demanding. The toddler years are
00:50:52.820
really difficult, but it's made a lot harder by a lot of the things that we have going on today.
00:50:58.600
Kind of what we talked about at the very beginning. If you were at work from eight to five, you're
00:51:04.040
stressed out, you're touched out, you're talked out. And then at the end of the day, you are dealing
00:51:09.600
with toddlers who are pulling on you and demanding a bunch of things and want everything from you. And of
00:51:15.120
course, they want your attention and you're feeling exhausted and you're feeling overstimulated.
00:51:20.520
Yeah, it's going to be really tempting to reach for something that is going to allow you to have
00:51:26.180
some kind of like mental relief or mental break. Also, constantly being on our phones, social media.
00:51:35.020
Have you ever been really like focused on your Instagram or focused on something on your phone
00:51:40.900
that someone taps you on the shoulder and it just annoys you way more than it would if you had
00:51:46.260
just been sitting there doing nothing? That's because our brains are just so overstimulated by
00:51:52.100
social media that when one other thing tries to stimulate us, when one other thing tries to grab
00:51:58.260
our attention, it irritates us. And so we need to put down our phones, we need to reassess our priorities,
00:52:04.880
and we need to ensure that we are putting our jobs as mothers first. That doesn't mean that you don't
00:52:12.920
do anything else. I know a lot of women who put their jobs as moms first, but they also have a
00:52:19.600
podcast or they also have an Etsy shop or they also sell courses or something like that contributing
00:52:25.060
to the family economy along with their husband. It might mean, though, that you don't do any of those
00:52:31.540
things, but we have to ensure that our priorities are in line. And if we are finding that we have to
00:52:37.920
reach for an outside substance for us to just get through the day, then something is going on there.
00:52:45.100
If we as Christians feel that way, then we really need to assess where our hearts are, where our
00:52:49.900
spirits are, if we are being fed spiritually by the word, by other Christians, the way that we need to.
00:52:55.720
But also, I think some of it is just straight up immaturity. Some of it is just this belief in
00:53:03.160
perpetual adolescence and prolonged juvenility, that responsibility and having demands is just too
00:53:12.040
much for us. It's just too much, so we need an escape from all of it. When really, we have it really
00:53:17.680
easy as a generation. Moms have had it much more difficult than we have today in some ways,
00:53:26.760
although I don't think that moms have the community and the village and the family support in some ways
00:53:32.340
that other moms have in the past. But even so, there is no justification for having to rely on
00:53:43.120
these kind of toxic substances to allow us to be a mom. And like, weed makes you stupid and lazy and
00:53:52.920
fat. And so don't do that. It's bad for you. And it's bad for your kids. And it's bad for your home.
00:53:58.860
And it's bad for your air filters. I am totally against, by the way, legalizing weed. I think it's
00:54:04.420
awful. I think it has only net negatives for society. And like the worst combination I can think of
00:54:12.360
is a mom with young kids smoking weed. No, thank you. No, thank you. I think this is an awful
00:54:18.320
development. This is just a new stage of toxic mommy culture, which toxic mommy culture, I first
00:54:24.560
started talking about that in probably 2018, wrote about it in my book in 2019. And it's just this
00:54:31.500
phenomenon or like this culture of moms complaining about motherhood and thinking that it makes them
00:54:36.340
cute or relatable or fun. We can be transparent about how difficult motherhood is in the right
00:54:42.100
context. There's no need to vent about your children and how difficult it is online for
00:54:49.760
clicks and views. And you certainly shouldn't be smoking weed while you're doing it. That's my take on
00:54:54.740
that. Okay, y'all. It was a full week. Gosh, we spanned a lot on our episodes this week. We will be back
00:55:15.080
here on Monday with one of my favorite guests, and that is Delano Squires. I've been wanting to talk
00:55:20.900
about this. Dawn Staley, this coach of the University of South Carolina women's basketball
00:55:29.380
team, her recent comments about men playing in women's sports because they say that they're the
00:55:34.760
opposite sex, but also how the media has raised her up as a hero. We're also going to talk about
00:55:39.500
the very controversial subject about whether or not MLK was the Christian hero that we have always
00:55:47.100
said that he was, whether the criticism of him is fair or not. We'll be talking about a lot of other
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