Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - April 16, 2024


Ep 986 ｜ Steven Furtick Gives a Master Class in Narci-gesis


Episode Stats

Length

53 minutes

Words per Minute

159.02156

Word Count

8,460

Sentence Count

629

Misogynist Sentences

25

Hate Speech Sentences

26


Summary

On this week's episode of Relatable, we discuss the latest in the abortion debate, including the latest from the University of Georgia and the controversial comments from a conservative Christian pastor. We also hear from a woman who has come out in favor of abortion as she is running for the U.S. Senate seat currently held by Sen. Kyrsten Sineman.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Stephen Furtick had an interesting Easter message for his church on Easter Sunday.
00:00:08.080 Also, Carrie Lake has come out in favor of abortion as she is running for Senate in the
00:00:15.560 state of Arizona.
00:00:17.280 And we've got some good news coming out of the University of Georgia as thousands of
00:00:22.940 students there and across the country are worshiping together and getting baptized.
00:00:27.400 Praise God.
00:00:28.440 We've got all of this and more on today's episode of Relatable.
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00:00:46.420 Hey, guys.
00:00:47.220 Welcome to Relatable.
00:00:48.480 Happy Tuesday.
00:00:49.640 Hope everyone is having a wonderful week so far.
00:00:53.400 Okay, Brie, I said I didn't know if I was going to call on you and I'm already calling on you
00:00:57.680 two seconds in.
00:00:58.780 Right away.
00:00:59.160 Okay, I have an idea for merch and we can just throw it out here just to see if people
00:01:03.500 like it.
00:01:03.980 Because I say the same thing at the top of every show.
00:01:06.960 Hope you're having a wonderful week so far.
00:01:09.300 I think that you could make some kind of cute like trucker hat or rope hat with some kind
00:01:19.160 of cute, groovy script that says, hope you're having a wonderful week dot dot dot or hope
00:01:25.900 you're having a wonderful week so far.
00:01:27.340 It's a lot of words, but I think it would be kind of cute and kind of happy.
00:01:32.100 Yeah.
00:01:32.800 You think?
00:01:33.360 You think dot dot dot so far?
00:01:35.420 No, no, no, no, no.
00:01:36.640 Okay.
00:01:37.080 Dot dot dot or so far.
00:01:40.160 Or hope you're having a wonderful week without any ellipses.
00:01:44.100 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:01:44.660 Without any so far.
00:01:45.980 Those are a little ominous.
00:01:47.660 A little much.
00:01:48.060 A little ominous.
00:01:49.420 Yeah.
00:01:49.880 Wait, what do you mean?
00:01:51.280 Hope you're having a wonderful week.
00:01:52.640 Does that mean something else?
00:01:54.280 Okay, workshop it.
00:01:55.340 No bad ideas and brainstorming.
00:01:57.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:01:57.520 You're right.
00:01:57.980 Speaking of merch, we do have some cute merch coming out for Mother's Day sometime soon.
00:02:03.040 We're going to have onesies.
00:02:04.600 They're going to be really cute.
00:02:06.020 Mom, baby, matching onesies.
00:02:08.160 If you guys have any ideas, also specifically for Related Bro merch, let me know because
00:02:14.600 Father's Day is coming up.
00:02:15.820 We got our Mother's Day stuff coming out.
00:02:17.260 We've also got our Related Bro Day coming up in June.
00:02:22.080 And so we want merch that dads are going to wear, that you're actually going to like.
00:02:27.340 It's just difficult for us to do it because obviously we are women.
00:02:31.320 And because my dad, my brother, Chief Related Bro, my husband, they all say they don't like
00:02:37.260 a bunch of like words on their shirt.
00:02:39.460 It's a little difficult for me to know like how exactly to brand it.
00:02:44.320 But even as I'm saying that, I have some ideas.
00:02:47.200 So feel free to message me, comment, links to stuff that you guys do like, and then we
00:02:52.440 can use that as some inspo for some Father's Day merch.
00:02:57.920 All right.
00:02:58.620 We got some serious stuff to talk about.
00:03:00.660 As we always do, some stuff that I guess is going to make people very upset because
00:03:05.680 I've noticed over the past several days, since we talked about Trump's abortion stance in
00:03:11.260 the video that he put out, we've got some professing self-identifying conservatives who
00:03:16.940 are very angry that we disagree with Trump on that.
00:03:20.040 They say that I don't want to win elections, that I am being too black and white about this,
00:03:26.560 that Trump is absolutely right, that we have to be more practical.
00:03:29.380 We have to be more pragmatic in order to win elections.
00:03:32.820 We just need a little bit of that baby murder to secure the election.
00:03:36.480 And then finally, we will be principled.
00:03:38.420 Finally, we'll be Christian.
00:03:39.740 Finally, we'll be anti-murder.
00:03:41.960 Okay.
00:03:42.400 I understand the practical, pragmatic argument here.
00:03:46.540 I really do.
00:03:47.720 And of course, I want Donald Trump to win.
00:03:50.360 As I said, as the dodo brains who took my arguments out of context failed to address,
00:03:59.340 I just disagree with this strategy.
00:04:02.240 I disagree with the strategy on principle.
00:04:04.660 I disagree with the strategy pragmatically, too.
00:04:08.820 And I will explain that as we get into what Carrie Lake said.
00:04:13.320 Carrie Lake recently released a video basically echoing Trump's stance on abortion, this very
00:04:19.560 moderate, sophisticated, pragmatic, pseudo-compassionate stance that we actually need to be much more
00:04:27.360 middle-of-the-road on abortion, not only does she make the case that that is necessary to win
00:04:34.260 elections, but it's also the more moral position, which is just absolutely egregious.
00:04:41.300 So here is part of the video that Carrie Lake put out on Acts the other day.
00:04:47.280 It's SOT1.
00:04:47.820 This total ban on abortion that the Arizona Supreme Court just ruled on is out of line
00:04:54.280 with where the people of this state are.
00:04:56.540 The issue is less about banning abortion and more about saving babies.
00:05:01.320 I agree with President Trump.
00:05:02.540 This is such a personal and private issue.
00:05:05.060 I chose life, but I'm not every woman.
00:05:08.440 I want to make sure that every woman who finds herself pregnant has more choices so that she
00:05:14.200 can make that choice that I made.
00:05:16.000 Okay, so that's the pro-choice, pro-abortion position.
00:05:20.740 She just articulated it.
00:05:22.300 She just put some soft music behind it, and she happens to say that she's a Republican.
00:05:28.620 And so all of a sudden, that is now the pro-life take.
00:05:32.020 The pro-life take among Republicans is to actually be pro-choice and pretty ardently pro-choice.
00:05:37.640 She said it's a personal, private thing.
00:05:40.280 I chose life, but I'm not every other woman.
00:05:42.440 That is exactly what Planned Parenthood believes.
00:05:44.900 That is exactly what every pro-abortion, pro-choice activist has been saying for literally decades.
00:05:51.920 Now, this is the conservative position.
00:05:54.760 This is the anti-abortion position.
00:05:57.040 It's the anti-abortion position to be pro the choice of abortion.
00:06:01.840 We're talking about murdering people.
00:06:04.260 That's what we're talking about.
00:06:05.260 We are talking about the violent poisoning and or dismembering of helpless babies.
00:06:12.680 That's what we're talking about when we're using the soft music with the warm filters to make it seem like we're really thoughtfully, empathetically thinking through this complicated, private, personal issue.
00:06:25.920 We are talking about the murder of people, okay?
00:06:29.380 We are talking about chopping up babies.
00:06:32.260 There's not much nuance to this, okay?
00:06:34.940 So excuse me if I don't have a lot of patience for your pragmatism.
00:06:39.460 I think that it's evil.
00:06:41.540 All right?
00:06:42.200 So her video was in response to a ruling by the Arizona State Supreme Court that allowed an 1864 statute banning abortion to stand.
00:07:05.320 And you'll remember Carrie Lake is a former Arizona governor candidate, and now she is an Arizona Senate candidate, and she wanted to respond to this because she is trying to win that independent vote that, of course, she lost when she ran for governor.
00:07:24.300 Now, can I just be honest about what my take on Carrie Lake has always been?
00:07:28.440 There was one day that we were going to have her on the show, and it didn't work out logistically.
00:07:33.260 I don't know.
00:07:33.840 We got wires crossed or something like that, but I'm always thankful when candidates or politicians agree to come on the show.
00:07:40.480 I understand they're busy.
00:07:41.380 They get a lot of media requests, and she was kind enough to accept our invitation to come on the show.
00:07:46.380 It didn't end up working out, and so I'll say that, that I'm thankful for, I guess, the respect that her team showed us in accepting our request, however long ago that was, maybe a year ago.
00:07:59.400 However, I have never, I have never been a Carrie Lake fan.
00:08:05.760 I just haven't.
00:08:06.960 Do I think that it would have been better for the state of Arizona to have her as the governor versus who they have now?
00:08:14.380 Absolutely, because the governor now, of course, is far left and absolutely stands for everything that I stand against, and Carrie Lake would have been better on immigration.
00:08:25.440 She probably would have been better on abortion, better on gender, better on a lot of things, but when I look at her history, I don't see any kind of solid history of conservatism, and personally, I just, and you can say that this is superficial.
00:08:40.360 You can say, you know, it's shallow, emotional, whatever.
00:08:43.380 I just didn't like her persona, and when she lost, I completely understood why.
00:08:49.060 And this whole gimmick of claiming that it was election fraud, that I'm not saying there's never any funny business going on in elections.
00:08:55.840 You guys know that I understand that that's a definite possibility and even happens, but that she didn't actually lose that whole tear that she went on claiming that this was some kind of fraudulent fake election and that really she won.
00:09:13.900 There's no possible way that her opponent could have won fair and square because she was so popular.
00:09:19.740 I'm sorry, no.
00:09:21.000 I knew immediately that this is someone that wasn't going to appeal to most people in the purple state of Arizona and certainly wasn't going to appeal to a lot of women.
00:09:31.900 It's interesting, and I think that she would probably agree with this, that she's kind of switched a little bit because she had an extremely, as she was running, a very masculine energy, like a very I'm so based Carrie Lake energy.
00:09:48.280 And a lot of the male commentators in this space really liked her, always praised her and just thought that she was so strong, going to be an amazing champion for conservatism.
00:10:00.080 And I just sat back and knew and knew I didn't say anything during the election because, of course, I thought that she'd be a better choice than her opponent.
00:10:07.840 But now I'm looking at this and I'm like, OK, I see what she's doing.
00:10:13.400 She realizes that she lost the female vote in Arizona because she was way too aggressive and not in an appealing way at all.
00:10:24.580 And now she is trying to win back those women by pretending to be like or maybe she really is.
00:10:32.400 I don't know, like this soft, gentle, genteel person and equivocating on something like abortion because she thinks that she is going to ingratiate herself to this group of women.
00:10:44.420 I don't think that it's going to work.
00:10:46.900 And it's for the same reason that I don't think that it's going to work for Donald Trump.
00:10:51.820 I don't believe that there is this group of independents or this group of moderate conservatives or this group of independent, conservative or apolitical women who are all just waiting to vote Republican and all just waiting to vote for Donald Trump or waiting to vote for Carrie Lake, who is very much aligned with Donald Trump.
00:11:15.760 But they just need to hear that Carrie Lake and Donald Trump are moderate on abortion and then they've secured their vote.
00:11:24.040 I'm sorry. No, people who are in that camp that I just described, they don't like Trump.
00:11:30.080 They don't like MAGA.
00:11:31.700 And it's not primarily the abortion issue that's holding them back.
00:11:36.100 And you don't have to agree with them.
00:11:38.360 I don't agree with them on a lot of things.
00:11:40.660 But to those people, they see MAGA and Trump as a unique threat to democracy.
00:11:46.820 They see him as a racist.
00:11:48.800 They could never tell their friends that they voted for him or anyone aligned with him.
00:11:55.100 And they see him as potentially a convicted felon.
00:12:00.280 So there is so much of a stigma surrounding MAGA that these people that Carrie Lake and Donald Trump are trying to appeal to are not going to be effectively swayed by this.
00:12:16.480 They're just not.
00:12:17.440 And so we are losing this battle and it will not help us win the war.
00:12:27.180 I think that's the thought.
00:12:28.380 That's the calculation.
00:12:29.340 We might equivocate on this battle.
00:12:31.500 We'll surrender a little ground.
00:12:33.000 Again, we'll give a little bit of baby murder or maybe a lot of baby murder.
00:12:37.020 I don't know exactly what their stance is.
00:12:40.780 But we will ultimately win the election.
00:12:44.940 We will ultimately win the war.
00:12:47.360 I think that that is strategically foolish.
00:12:51.720 I do not think that that's going to work.
00:12:54.000 I also think that that is going to, and this is what people get mad about.
00:12:59.780 You can get mad all you want to.
00:13:01.240 I think that that is also going to chip away at the enthusiasm of the pro-life Christians who Donald Trump and other Republicans like him need to be their evangelists and be their apologists and be their supporters who will go out and tell other people and convince other people to vote for them.
00:13:24.700 Now, those pro-life Christians will still vote for Donald Trump.
00:13:28.260 I'm still going to vote for Donald Trump because I understand the binary option there.
00:13:35.060 And RFK is just not an option for me because he is way too radical on abortion and some other issues.
00:13:41.560 But while those pro-life Christians will vote for Donald Trump and might vote for Carrie Lake, will vote for the most pro-life option, they're going to have a hard time going out amongst their friends and communities and say, yes, it is your moral imperative to vote for this Republican candidate.
00:14:01.280 Because at the end of the day, right now, we're looking at a field of pro-choicers.
00:14:05.420 We're looking at a bunch of evil options when it comes to their abortion position, and we're just trying to decide which one is least evil.
00:14:15.380 And abortion is a big enough issue that this is going to become very morally sticky for a lot of people who tend to vote Republican, a lot of Christians who tend to vote Republican.
00:14:28.880 I just don't think that they are winning anyone over by this position, but you are potentially losing people by this position.
00:14:36.920 And you're certainly losing their enthusiasm by this position, not to mention the fact that it is immoral.
00:14:43.080 Like, we have justified other human rights atrocities not too long ago under the banner of states' rights.
00:14:53.100 Abortion is even worse.
00:14:55.640 Abortion is even more evil.
00:14:57.540 But it belongs in the same category as slavery because it is the objectification and the subjugation and the dehumanization of vulnerable, helpless people.
00:15:11.580 And so in the year of our Lord, 2024, as we can look back at history and see exactly what it looks like when we treat a human being as if they are subhuman,
00:15:23.260 when we decide that one group of people does not deserve rights based on how they look, based on what size they are, the abilities that they bring to the table, their innate characteristics,
00:15:36.980 we understand that that kind of mentality leads to the systemic and atrocious trampling on the value and the dignity of that group of people.
00:15:52.680 Like, we can look at the Holocaust.
00:15:54.180 We can look at slavery.
00:15:55.340 We can look at different conflicts throughout history and which one group of people is dehumanized.
00:16:01.060 And we can see the trouble that that causes, that that doesn't actually lead to some kind of, like, big picture victory, that that doesn't help lead us to a place of freedom.
00:16:15.260 It just doesn't.
00:16:16.380 It's not a value that you can compromise on and then hope to win God's favor and win the country back.
00:16:23.200 We are not winning if we are losing on the issue of abortion or simply not.
00:16:28.760 It's that big.
00:16:30.000 As I've said before, like, there are other issues that I am willing to make compromises on, but not on this one.
00:16:38.080 Again, we are talking about human beings.
00:16:40.280 We're not talking primarily about a political issue.
00:16:43.660 We are talking about murder.
00:16:45.740 I don't want murder to be regulated.
00:16:48.180 I want it to be ended.
00:16:50.600 I want it to be banned.
00:16:52.280 When we think about it from the perspective of what an abortion is, what the procedure entails, what it is doing, and whom abortion is actually victimizing, a living, wiggling human being, then there's really no other moral or logical position to take except for, no, this has to be banned.
00:17:17.040 And a baby that is conceived through rape, a baby that is conceived through incest is no less a baby.
00:17:26.140 Tell me the difference between a baby that's conceived in rape and a baby that's not.
00:17:33.000 When you're looking at it from the perspective of the victim, from the perspective of the baby, these kinds of exceptions are not only illogical, but yes, also immoral.
00:17:43.040 And I just want to say one thing about the life of the mother argument that I heard Donald Trump make.
00:18:01.980 Donald Trump said, okay, we have to have compassion and we have to make exceptions for rape, incest, and the life of the mother.
00:18:12.680 So I already gave my stance on the rape, incest exceptions.
00:18:16.000 As I've said many times before, I believe that rapists should get the death penalty, not the baby.
00:18:20.400 The pro-choice position is that, and Donald Trump's position is that babies should be able to get the death penalty for a rape that someone else committed.
00:18:33.180 Is that justice?
00:18:34.780 Is that liberty and justice for all?
00:18:37.240 No, it's not.
00:18:37.940 So I'm of the radical extreme position that rapists should get the death penalty, not a baby.
00:18:43.840 The pro-choice position, again, is actually the opposite, that we shouldn't have a death penalty for rapists or even murderers, but we should have the death penalty for babies.
00:18:56.180 I know, I'm so crazy that I believe that that is egregious and immoral.
00:19:02.600 But on the life of the mother, there is no reason for abortion to save the life of the mother.
00:19:10.780 Every single pro-life law that exists allows for the removal of ectopic pregnancies.
00:19:16.380 Ectopic pregnancies are not viable.
00:19:18.960 They do have to be removed.
00:19:21.420 We do not consider that as pro-lifers, as Christians, an abortion.
00:19:25.400 You are simply removing a child that did not grow where they have to be growing in order to survive.
00:19:35.060 And because both the life of the mother and the baby are at risk, we save the life that we can save.
00:19:42.020 So that is the pro-life position, is that we believe that the value of the mother's life is equal to the value of the baby's life.
00:19:51.780 And so, when the mother's life is at risk when she is pregnant, we believe in delivering the child.
00:19:59.620 Even if it's early, even if that child has to be put on life support, even if that child has a slim chance of surviving,
00:20:08.540 we believe that if the mother is going to be saved by removing that child from the womb, then the child should be removed.
00:20:15.480 But there is no reason for the child to be killed first.
00:20:18.000 Because either way, early delivery, induced labor, and abortion, the baby is still coming out.
00:20:27.380 There is no medical reason for the baby to be poisoned or dismembered first.
00:20:31.960 If the baby needs to be removed to save the life of the mother, then deliver the baby.
00:20:36.720 And do everything you possibly can to save that child, no matter how many weeks gestation that you are.
00:20:41.520 I understand that before 24 weeks gestation, like the odds are very slim.
00:20:47.380 I think the earliest has been 19 weeks, which is super, super, super preemie of a baby being born and actually surviving after being in the NICU for several months.
00:20:57.300 But you do everything that you can.
00:20:59.300 Or even if it's before that, you deliver that child, give them as much care and comfort and dignity as you possibly can.
00:21:05.380 You don't purposely slaughter them.
00:21:07.020 There is no reason to slaughter a child to save the life of a mother.
00:21:11.560 Again, the option is delivery.
00:21:13.380 So even that is just like a crazy position to take.
00:21:16.660 It's a pro-choice position to take.
00:21:18.800 Okay?
00:21:19.500 And it's evil.
00:21:20.560 Because again, we are talking about babies.
00:21:22.500 One of the few people that seems to understand the inconsistency, the incongruence in this position of like,
00:21:33.140 oh, yeah, we're pro-life, but maybe we'll just ban it at 15 weeks.
00:21:36.520 Oh, yeah, we're pro-life, but maybe we'll just allow the abortion pill to be on the market.
00:21:40.780 Oh, yeah, we're pro-life, but in cases of rape and incest, it's totally fine.
00:21:47.200 It's Bill Maher.
00:21:48.500 Bill Maher, he is a liberal.
00:21:51.180 He's got some sanity, though, and I appreciate that.
00:21:54.240 I still think he's a liberal at the end of the day.
00:21:56.320 Probably doesn't like people like me.
00:21:58.160 Sees my views as dangerous.
00:21:59.600 But at least he honestly seems to understand the logic of the pro-life position.
00:22:05.740 So here he is, breaking it down in a way that I would say most Republicans probably can't.
00:22:13.760 That's why I don't understand the 15-week thing.
00:22:16.640 Or Trump's plan is, let's leave it to the states.
00:22:19.620 You mean, so killing babies is okay in some states?
00:22:23.080 Like, I can respect the absolutist position.
00:22:26.440 I really can.
00:22:27.140 I scold the left on when they say, oh, you know what?
00:22:31.280 They just hate women, people who aren't pro-life, pro-choice.
00:22:35.920 They just, they don't hate women.
00:22:37.660 They just made that up.
00:22:39.140 They think it's murder.
00:22:40.540 And it kind of is.
00:22:42.720 I'm just okay with that.
00:22:43.900 Well, at least he's honest.
00:22:47.320 He's honest not only about the pro-life position, but he is also honest about the pro-abortion
00:22:53.620 position.
00:22:54.620 And I wish more pro-abortion people would just be honest that we are talking about being
00:23:00.560 pro-murder of babies versus anti-murder of babies.
00:23:04.440 But he's got some conviction for the people who say that they are on the pro-life side.
00:23:11.860 He is checking our argument there.
00:23:14.900 If we really believe that abortion is murder, as we've always said, if we really believe
00:23:19.440 that life starts at conception, then how can we say that we would be okay with a 15-week
00:23:24.340 ban?
00:23:24.680 How can we be okay with exceptions for rape and incest?
00:23:29.500 If we really believe that abortion is murdering a baby, then how can we be on board with those
00:23:36.260 things in the name of quote-unquote winning elections, which again, I don't think that
00:23:40.320 that's going to help.
00:23:41.900 We can't, unless we're just giant hypocrites, right?
00:23:46.340 And then I also appreciate that as awful as it is, he is honest about the fact that to
00:23:53.980 be pro-choice, you just have to be okay with murder.
00:23:58.020 He goes on to say that the world is overpopulated anyway, and well, we won't miss you, so he's
00:24:04.620 fine with some baby murder.
00:24:07.000 Again, that's heinous, but at least he's honest about that.
00:24:10.840 And I wish more pro-choicers would just be honest, like you are okay with legalizing some
00:24:15.840 murder.
00:24:16.560 Enough with the silly nonsense and the euphemisms about clumps of cells, and it's not really a
00:24:22.860 human yet until X, Y, Z.
00:24:25.140 That's all arbitrary, philosophical, just absolute hogwash.
00:24:30.720 You're okay with murdering some humans at some points.
00:24:35.800 And I don't know what your reasoning is for that.
00:24:38.840 You need to decide that for yourself, but you just need to have a moment of honesty that
00:24:43.200 if you believe in abortion exceptions, that you're okay with murder sometimes.
00:24:48.580 You're okay with murdering babies sometimes.
00:24:50.080 You think that it should be legal, it should be an option on the table.
00:24:53.880 I'm just not on board with that.
00:24:55.260 Even if it were to win us elections, I'm just not on board with that.
00:25:00.060 I also want to just point out that Carrie Lake's position has changed on this.
00:25:04.640 During remarks delivered at the American Leadership Forum in 2022, Carrie Lake had previously referred
00:25:09.360 to a great law that Arizona had on the books as she discussed her hope that Roe v. Wade would
00:25:14.020 soon be overturned.
00:25:17.100 And I have a clip.
00:25:17.860 I'm not going to play the clip, actually.
00:25:19.740 But she basically says, it's great.
00:25:22.060 I hope Roe v. Wade is overturned.
00:25:23.560 Well, Roe v. Wade was overturned, and she doesn't think it's so great because now she's
00:25:28.260 running for Senate.
00:25:29.000 It's a different election.
00:25:29.820 She realizes what she possibly did wrong when she was running for governor, and she's going
00:25:34.580 back.
00:25:34.880 Typical politician.
00:25:35.680 This is just what they do.
00:25:39.420 It's also interesting that Donald Trump is jumping on this yet again by saying that Arizona
00:25:47.360 just went too far in their abortion ruling.
00:25:50.960 He said approving an inappropriate law from 1864.
00:25:56.480 So this is just left-wing speak because this is what progressives also do when the Supreme
00:26:01.800 Court rules in a way that they don't like.
00:26:03.460 Like, conservatives are supposed to say, well, the Supreme Court is just supposed to interpret
00:26:07.620 the law based on the Constitution.
00:26:11.040 And we can agree or disagree with that interpretation.
00:26:13.900 But saying, like, they went too far or that it was inappropriate, that's not really precise
00:26:19.600 language.
00:26:20.780 That isn't really typically how conservatives are supposed to talk when it comes to Supreme
00:26:25.460 Court rulings.
00:26:26.060 But he says the Supreme Court in Arizona went too far in their abortion ruling, enacting and
00:26:31.660 approving an inappropriate law from 1864.
00:26:34.420 So now the governor in the Arizona legislature must use heart, common sense, and act immediately
00:26:40.320 to remedy what has happened.
00:26:42.560 Remember, it is now up to the states and the goodwill of those that represent the people.
00:26:47.320 We must ideally have the three exceptions for rape, incest, life, and the mother.
00:26:51.340 This is important.
00:26:52.560 Democrats are the extremists.
00:26:54.100 They support abortion up to the moment of birth and even execution of babies.
00:26:59.500 In some cases, after birth, this should not be.
00:27:02.440 Arizona legislature, please act as fast as possible.
00:27:07.240 OK, OK, I don't understand what Democrats have to do with this.
00:27:13.060 If this is a law that is protecting as many babies as possible, what do Democrats have to
00:27:18.300 do with it?
00:27:19.680 Shouldn't we just be happy about that as pro-lifers?
00:27:22.040 Why are we criticizing any kind of pro-life law going into place and trying to do everything
00:27:28.480 we can to carve out exceptions to make sure that thousands and thousands of babies now
00:27:33.360 fit through a loophole to be murdered?
00:27:37.740 It just doesn't make a whole lot of sense for me.
00:27:39.300 It's just posturing, again, to get those really, I think, non-existent votes.
00:27:43.920 Now, again, I will say, like, am I going to support Trump over Biden or RFK?
00:27:54.740 Yeah, I hate that these are the options that we have, but they're what we've got.
00:27:59.540 And of course, there are other issues in addition to abortion.
00:28:02.920 I think none is important as abortion, but there are other issues.
00:28:06.820 Yes, do I wish that Trump was the head of our foreign policy right now instead of Biden?
00:28:13.100 We're looking at the mess that his weak foreign policy has gotten us into when it comes to
00:28:18.200 Israel, when it comes to Iran.
00:28:20.460 Of course, I think that Trump will surround himself with a better administration.
00:28:25.300 I think that he will sign pro-life laws, probably, or bills that come across his desk.
00:28:32.280 I think that we're going to have a better economy with Donald Trump.
00:28:35.100 All of that is absolutely true.
00:28:37.700 I think that he is going to generally support the pro-life cause.
00:28:42.040 I think that that's true.
00:28:43.540 That doesn't mean that I have to pretend that I don't have serious disagreements with this
00:28:48.780 position.
00:28:49.680 I mean, politicians come and go.
00:28:51.560 Leadership comes and goes.
00:28:52.720 Like, I am going to live probably long after Trump dies.
00:28:58.160 I have to exist in this country long after Trump dies.
00:29:01.660 So do my children.
00:29:02.340 So do my grandchildren.
00:29:03.060 So I'm thinking through the long game, and I'm thinking about what kind of country I want
00:29:10.500 to live in.
00:29:10.840 And I understand, oh, we're not going to have a country if Donald Trump doesn't win.
00:29:15.200 Okay.
00:29:16.080 Again, I don't think compromising on this fundamental issue is the way to ensure that victory.
00:29:21.360 I just don't.
00:29:22.060 I just don't.
00:29:34.700 All right.
00:29:36.020 Let's get into Stephen Furtick.
00:29:41.000 There's a lot that we could talk about.
00:29:42.640 Okay.
00:29:42.860 Yeah.
00:29:43.020 We're going to get to both of the other subjects that we have because they're going to be kind
00:29:47.620 of quick.
00:29:48.040 So I'm going to talk about Stephen Furtick and just comment.
00:29:53.540 I just want to comment on something that he said or part of his sermon from Easter Sunday.
00:30:02.760 It's just important for us to remember what false teaching can sound like and look like.
00:30:08.160 It's not always someone saying something that is blatantly false.
00:30:11.100 It is also a pastor reaching for meaning in Scripture that simply does not exist and making
00:30:19.440 sermons about us or about him rather than about the God who inspired it.
00:30:25.880 So here is Stephen Furtick on Easter.
00:30:28.620 And they're standing in a grave, but the angel says, go to Galilee and they can't stay at the
00:30:38.220 grave because he's not there.
00:30:40.300 Somebody say, he's not here.
00:30:42.540 He's not in this depression.
00:30:44.500 He's not in this giving up.
00:30:46.460 He's not in this failure.
00:30:48.160 He's not in.
00:30:48.760 I mean, he's in it to help me, but he's not in it to leave me.
00:30:53.540 He's calling me forward to Galilee.
00:30:58.620 Okay.
00:30:59.580 Can we just like say for a second, Brie, we just comment real fast on the sweater.
00:31:05.000 I know it's superficial and it's beside the point.
00:31:07.980 There's a lot, there's a lot going on here, much bigger issues, but this sweater, which
00:31:14.780 I just, okay.
00:31:20.740 Is it salmon?
00:31:21.820 Is it pink?
00:31:22.460 I don't know.
00:31:23.280 Yeah.
00:31:24.980 I'm not sure.
00:31:26.080 I don't know.
00:31:26.620 Um, but it was $2,000.
00:31:30.000 Yeah, it sure was.
00:31:31.760 It was $2,000 to look like that.
00:31:38.580 To look like a little doily.
00:31:40.700 Yeah.
00:31:41.780 Okay.
00:31:42.520 I know that y'all are going to, some people aren't going to be happy that we criticized
00:31:45.660 his fashion.
00:31:46.660 I'm sorry.
00:31:47.080 When you wear a $2,000 grandma sweater on Easter Sunday and you talk about it, he talks
00:31:53.580 about it in his sermon because he has to, then of course you are inviting people to comment
00:31:58.160 on it.
00:31:58.440 That's why you're wearing it.
00:31:59.680 You could wear anything.
00:32:00.640 I actually do think that we talked about with preachers in sneakers, like I actually do think
00:32:05.700 it's an important issue to talk about.
00:32:08.020 I do think that a pastor should be understated.
00:32:10.280 I don't think it has to be ugly.
00:32:12.060 I don't think it has to be frumpy.
00:32:13.200 I don't even think it has to be cheap.
00:32:14.500 But I do think that whatever a pastor wears should communicate, I don't want you looking
00:32:20.280 at me.
00:32:20.820 This is not about me.
00:32:22.180 This is about the word that is being preached.
00:32:25.360 I do think that when Mike Todd or when Stephen Furtick or when T.D. Jakes are going up there
00:32:30.580 and they are purposely wearing items that say, look at me, I actually think that you are
00:32:35.160 violating God's call to modesty.
00:32:37.580 Because when we see that women and men are called to modesty in scripture, that we are
00:32:44.000 being called not just to like covering up certain parts of our body, but that we are
00:32:48.080 being called to dignity, that we are being called to humility.
00:32:52.320 And so in anything that we wear, whether we are deciding how much skin to show or deciding
00:32:58.300 like what kind of brand to wear, things like that, we should be looking at ourselves and
00:33:01.980 saying, what am I communicating?
00:33:03.380 Am I communicating vanity?
00:33:05.680 Am I communicating arrogance?
00:33:06.960 Am I communicating, yes, look at me, think highly of me, be envious of me, or are we
00:33:14.440 simply adorning the temple that God has given us in respect and dignity and humility?
00:33:20.240 So, and you know what?
00:33:21.620 We can't figure out someone's heart.
00:33:23.600 We can't discern, but I think it's pretty easy to see when someone is intentionally flashy
00:33:29.420 what they are trying and when they talk about it, what they are trying to communicate.
00:33:33.860 Okay, so what is my problem with this clip?
00:33:37.040 This clip is from a sermon titled, I'm Somewhere in Between.
00:33:41.240 So this is called, there are a couple of different words for it.
00:33:45.260 This is called eisegesis.
00:33:47.360 We've talked about this before.
00:33:48.840 We actually talked about it with Paul Pitts.
00:33:51.360 Exegesis is when you pull meaning out of scripture based on what the verses actually say and the
00:33:57.420 context, not just the context of scripture, so the surrounding verses, the entire book and
00:34:02.920 the entirety of scripture, but also the historical context, and yes, even the cultural context where
00:34:08.280 it's relevant.
00:34:10.300 You pull meaning out of scripture using these tools, using this kind of contextual understanding.
00:34:18.240 You do the best that you possibly can to pull the meaning out of scripture that is right there.
00:34:26.280 Eisegesis is inserting meaning into scripture.
00:34:30.600 So I want to make a point.
00:34:32.800 I am going to decontextualize a verse and place the meaning that I want to communicate onto that verse.
00:34:41.280 So that is what is going on here.
00:34:43.400 The story of Easter, the story of the tomb rolling away, is not about you.
00:34:49.840 It's not about me.
00:34:51.480 It's not about us being in this liminal, in-between space and God is taking us to greater heights
00:34:57.780 and making us bigger and better than we were before.
00:35:01.100 Our drab, dreary past is being shaken off as God is promising us riches and success or whatever it is.
00:35:09.100 And I know that I'm kind of paraphrasing here, but that is the message that is being conveyed.
00:35:13.720 The story isn't about us.
00:35:16.420 It is for us.
00:35:18.020 It is not about us.
00:35:19.420 Scripture is not about us.
00:35:21.780 And that is really the theme that you will see in most of Furtick's sermons,
00:35:25.920 is that it is about you.
00:35:28.140 It is about me.
00:35:29.320 It is about our feelings.
00:35:30.620 It is about our story.
00:35:31.840 It is about our failures.
00:35:33.280 It is about our success.
00:35:34.680 It is about what God can give us.
00:35:38.280 And that is not what scripture is about.
00:35:40.500 That is not what the gospel is about.
00:35:41.780 Well, scripture, the gospel, is about Jesus.
00:35:46.580 So whenever we are expositing scripture, reading scripture, preaching scripture, teaching scripture,
00:35:54.280 understanding scripture, and we are pulling the meaning out of the text,
00:35:57.620 using scripture to interpret scripture, using all the context that we have available,
00:36:02.700 what we know about God as revealed in his word.
00:36:06.360 As we are exegeting scripture, we are primarily looking to answer the question,
00:36:12.700 what does this tell me about God?
00:36:15.620 What does this reveal about his character?
00:36:18.640 What is God doing in this?
00:36:21.380 That's not the only thing.
00:36:23.180 There are things to be revealed about human nature, about how the world works.
00:36:28.140 And there are certainly principles to apply to us in scripture.
00:36:32.700 There are sins that we may need to repent of.
00:36:35.720 There are misunderstandings that we may need to correct.
00:36:38.860 There are maybe wrongs that need to be righted, either in our lives or in our minds.
00:36:45.380 We need to keep our theology in check.
00:36:47.320 So obviously, there are things that we take from scripture.
00:36:50.340 But through the lens of, this is God's word, talking about God.
00:36:55.640 Jesus is the star of the show.
00:36:58.520 This is for me, but this is not about me.
00:37:01.740 It's a problem when you see preachers start using every story in the Bible,
00:37:08.160 which are real historical stories that really happened,
00:37:11.320 as metaphors for your life, or your trajectory, or your journey.
00:37:16.500 Jesus' resurrection is not a metaphor for you in your life.
00:37:21.640 It's real.
00:37:22.320 It actually happened.
00:37:23.780 It reveals to us the power of God.
00:37:26.120 What does it say about God?
00:37:28.840 It means that death could not hold him.
00:37:32.060 It means that Jesus conquered death on our behalf,
00:37:35.840 so we can also experience a resurrection of the body,
00:37:40.000 so we can also experience new life in Christ,
00:37:43.380 so we, through Christ, can defeat death and live with God forever.
00:37:47.980 Wow, how amazing is God that we didn't deserve any of that.
00:37:52.180 We didn't earn any of that, that while we were still dead in our sin,
00:37:57.700 that in love, God made us alive together with Christ.
00:38:00.880 By grace, you have been saved through faith.
00:38:03.320 This is not your own doing.
00:38:04.920 It is a gift of God so that no one may boast.
00:38:07.920 Ephesians 2.
00:38:08.660 How amazing is it that God raised Christ from the dead,
00:38:13.840 setting him apart from every other prophet, so-called, at the time,
00:38:19.520 who also claimed to be God?
00:38:22.760 None of those guys raised from the dead.
00:38:25.560 And I'm not saying that everything that Stephen Furtick said in his sermon
00:38:29.060 was untrue or unhelpful.
00:38:31.020 He might have said some biblical truths.
00:38:32.960 And here's the thing about Stephen Furtick, knowing his background.
00:38:35.860 Stephen Furtick knows biblical truth.
00:38:37.340 I think he could tell you the gospel if you asked him the gospel.
00:38:41.120 I don't think he's stupid.
00:38:43.080 I think he absolutely knows what exegesis is.
00:38:46.360 I think he knows what it would look like to properly handle the word.
00:38:51.680 And maybe there was a time in his career when he was more solid.
00:38:56.080 But sermon after sermon, it's not just eisegesis.
00:38:59.500 It's narsagesis.
00:39:01.060 And I didn't come up with that term.
00:39:02.640 That's a term that's been floating around for a while.
00:39:04.700 Narsagesis, when you not only read meaning into the text,
00:39:09.120 but you are reading you into the text.
00:39:11.440 And you are centering yourself.
00:39:13.040 And it just creates for such bad theology.
00:39:15.660 Because, again, you're reading everything metaphorically that's meant to be literal.
00:39:20.520 You're reading yourself into the text where you do not belong.
00:39:23.700 And you are also starting to try to see everything very mystically,
00:39:30.620 almost as every verse being some special sign that God is telling you about your specific
00:39:37.220 circumstance, like a fortune cookie.
00:39:39.320 That's not a proper or responsible or helpful or sanctifying way to read the word of God.
00:39:44.780 But it's not going to lead you more into who God is.
00:39:51.660 And therefore, it's not going to help you live a more holy life.
00:39:55.940 It's not going to give you long-term joy and satisfaction.
00:39:59.940 Because it's basically sending you the same place as the New Age is sending all of its
00:40:05.740 adherents further into yourself.
00:40:07.400 It's basically a Christianized version of the New Age self-love, self-help message is
00:40:13.360 that you have a little God, a divine being inside yourself that you just need to journey
00:40:18.980 to.
00:40:19.840 And once you find her, this inner goddess, you can release her, liberate her, and finally
00:40:26.480 all of your dreams will come true.
00:40:29.120 That's not the gospel.
00:40:31.380 Jesus said, we will have trouble.
00:40:33.440 But take heart, not it'll get easier, not we'll finally get everything that we want,
00:40:38.800 not you'll end up succeeding, but he has overcome the world.
00:40:55.580 There's that C.S. Lewis quote that I paraphrased the other day.
00:41:02.300 I love this quote.
00:41:03.900 It's from Mere Christianity.
00:41:04.940 If you haven't read Mere Christianity, you need to.
00:41:08.640 This is how he describes the gospel.
00:41:13.900 This is how he describes that transaction that Jesus presents to us, the exchange that
00:41:18.740 he presents to us.
00:41:19.880 Lose yourself and you will find yourself.
00:41:23.940 Die to yourself and you will live.
00:41:26.320 Here's what C.S. Lewis says.
00:41:28.440 Give up yourself and you will find your real self.
00:41:31.040 Lose your life and you will save it.
00:41:32.800 Submit to death.
00:41:33.840 Death of your ambitions and favorite wishes every day.
00:41:36.840 And death of your whole body in the end.
00:41:39.060 Submit with every fiber of your being and you will find eternal life.
00:41:43.620 Keep back nothing.
00:41:45.040 Nothing that you have not given away will be really yours.
00:41:48.060 Nothing in you that has not died will ever be raised from the dead.
00:41:51.940 Look for yourself and you will find in the long run only hatred, loneliness, despair,
00:41:57.880 rage, ruin, and decay.
00:41:59.740 But look for Christ and you will find him and with him find everything else thrown in.
00:42:07.880 So Jesus promises not that we will get everything that we want, not that we are going to become
00:42:13.580 a better version of ourselves.
00:42:15.180 He actually promises us himself and promises us a new self that we will become a new creation.
00:42:24.020 This is another, I am sorry, I love mere Christianity.
00:42:28.080 This is another quote from mere Christianity that reminds me of all of this.
00:42:31.520 God made us, invented us as a man invents an engine.
00:42:34.940 A car is made to run on gas and it would not run properly on anything else.
00:42:39.260 Now God designed the human machine to run on himself.
00:42:41.640 He himself is the fuel our spirits were designed to burn or the food our spirits were designed
00:42:45.780 to feed on.
00:42:46.340 There is no other.
00:42:47.500 That is why it is just no good asking God to make us happy in our own way without bothering
00:42:51.800 about religion.
00:42:52.740 God cannot give us a happiness and a peace apart from himself because it is not there.
00:42:58.120 And that's what this kind of narsigesus reminds me of is trying to find a happiness apart from
00:43:06.120 God himself.
00:43:07.920 We see Jesus as just kind of some genie that if we read scripture at just the right time
00:43:14.780 and just the right way and look for all the right Easter eggs and the Easter story, all
00:43:19.640 the right fortune cookies, then maybe the combination of all of these things will give us the ingredients
00:43:25.580 for success.
00:43:27.120 And that's just not how it works.
00:43:29.960 We are told over and over again in the New Testament that we will be persecuted.
00:43:35.740 All who desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted all in some way or
00:43:42.200 another.
00:43:43.000 We will all have to give up.
00:43:44.500 We will all have to deny ourselves.
00:43:46.100 We will all have to count the cost.
00:43:48.020 We will all go through trials.
00:43:49.380 We will all go through tribulation.
00:43:50.800 We will all go through seasons of slander and ridicule and marginalization.
00:43:58.600 Like that's part of the package.
00:44:01.220 And we give up our ego.
00:44:03.580 We give up our selfish ambition.
00:44:05.220 That doesn't mean that we're all taking vows of poverty.
00:44:08.180 That doesn't mean that we don't have seasons of total abundance and happiness and joy.
00:44:13.840 But those are not the gift or the goal.
00:44:17.560 The gift and the goal is Christ.
00:44:19.100 And so every sermon, every Bible study, every devotional, every time we read scripture, that
00:44:24.460 is our focus.
00:44:25.560 And if you watch Stephen Furtick, if you watch Mike Todd, if you watch Joel Osteen, if you
00:44:30.380 watch TV Jakes, if you watch Joyce Meyer, all of these false teachers are prosperity gospel
00:44:36.620 teachers that say, if you do these things just the right way, God will give you the blessing
00:44:43.900 that you're longing for.
00:44:45.060 God might do that, but it is because of his grace, not because you've earned it.
00:44:50.300 And he also might not.
00:44:52.820 That's bad theology that leads you to a very devastating place of feeling like you have been
00:44:59.000 betrayed by God when God cannot, by his nature, betray you because he never promised you all
00:45:05.740 of those blessings.
00:45:06.720 He never promised you the promotion or the riches or the health or the wealth.
00:45:10.100 He never promised you those things.
00:45:11.660 He promised you himself.
00:45:13.200 And he says, my grace is sufficient for you.
00:45:16.680 My power is made perfect through weakness.
00:45:21.400 And so let us remove ourselves.
00:45:23.660 Let us remove the lens of narcissism when we are reading scripture or reading a book or really
00:45:31.180 like doing anything.
00:45:32.660 That is like the self-help, self-love, narcissistic world that is being fed to especially as women
00:45:39.580 on a daily basis.
00:45:40.740 It makes us feel like we are our own saviors and our own sufficiency, our own enoughness,
00:45:46.580 that our self-love is enough to buoy us forever on the sea of happiness.
00:45:51.360 It's just not.
00:45:53.100 We need Christ, less of ourselves, more of Christ.
00:45:57.340 We don't need to focus at all on how much or how highly we think of ourselves.
00:46:02.820 We need to enter into self-forgetfulness, not self-loathing, but self-forgetfulness and
00:46:08.800 ask to be filled more and more with Christ.
00:46:12.100 And properly reading his words, sitting under sound teaching is going to help get us there.
00:46:18.260 Stephen Furtick, he's not a sound teacher.
00:46:23.160 I think I posted something on Instagram not that long ago criticizing them for not saying
00:46:30.640 resurrection or blood of Jesus when it comes to their Easter marketing.
00:46:34.800 I ended up taking that down because I think that the conversation actually that was going
00:46:40.900 around that everyone had been commenting on and saying, oh my gosh, see Elevation Church
00:46:44.540 won't even say resurrection or blood of Christ.
00:46:48.020 That's so awful.
00:46:49.720 Even though I do think that Elevation, unfortunately, is led by someone who doesn't handle the Word
00:46:56.540 of God well, that was a copywriter saying that specifically about the promotional materials
00:47:02.580 that they're putting out to try to invite people to church.
00:47:04.920 And the reason I'm even mentioning that now is because I want you to know that I take these
00:47:10.020 kind of critiques seriously and I want to make sure that I am being as fair as possible even
00:47:16.460 when I really disagree and think someone is dangerous.
00:47:18.980 And so I'm not just picking on Stephen Furtick because I'm looking for something to criticize.
00:47:23.660 Like there is someone out there who has, like I did at one point, who has bought into kind
00:47:30.720 of thinking that he and this kind of messaging is right on and it's not.
00:47:35.420 Um, but I also just want to say like there is grace for where people are in their journey
00:47:41.100 because while I was a Christian, a real believing Christian, I listened to him and all kind of
00:47:45.720 prosperity preachers thinking that it was fine.
00:47:47.920 It took time.
00:47:48.980 It took the Holy Spirit.
00:47:49.940 It took reading God's Word.
00:47:50.920 It took my ESV study Bible.
00:47:52.240 It took friends.
00:47:52.940 It took solid churches for me to realize, oh, that's not the gospel.
00:47:57.140 Okay.
00:47:57.640 So we have to have grace for where people are too.
00:48:00.000 And so I want you to hear it from that perspective as well.
00:48:05.420 All right.
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00:49:30.420 I've got some good news.
00:49:31.700 I've got some good, good news.
00:49:34.140 And no, it's not that I am giving away a bunch of Stephen Furtick $2,000 sweaters.
00:49:41.280 I've got better news than that.
00:49:44.740 Wait, I have to read this by the Babylon Bee.
00:49:47.240 This is funny.
00:49:48.560 This is a headline from the other day.
00:49:50.520 It says, Stephen Furtick debuts new line of chastity wear.
00:49:54.000 Chastity wear.
00:49:54.800 Guard your virginity forever.
00:49:57.440 Wow.
00:49:58.560 It's because it's an ugly sweater.
00:50:00.060 That's the joke.
00:50:02.060 Babylon Bee.
00:50:03.060 Oh my gosh, I didn't even mention, Bree.
00:50:05.860 I forgot to mention.
00:50:06.540 I'm popping all over the place right now.
00:50:07.960 But how mad Carrie Lake was about the Babylon Bee.
00:50:11.220 Did we include that in this document?
00:50:12.860 No, we didn't actually, but yeah.
00:50:14.280 Well, yeah, the Babylon Bee tweeted something just making fun of Carrie Lake and her, like,
00:50:21.300 incongruent, illogical position.
00:50:23.900 And Carrie Lake war room account got so mad about that.
00:50:27.780 You never argue with satire.
00:50:29.740 What'd you say?
00:50:30.320 That's what they said.
00:50:31.000 They said, this isn't real satire.
00:50:32.700 Yeah, they said, this is not valid satire.
00:50:34.620 It's valid satire because it hurts my feelings.
00:50:37.920 The headline was, Carrie Lake announces plan to lose another election, but this time while
00:50:42.020 supporting baby murder.
00:50:43.800 Woo!
00:50:45.160 This is winning.
00:50:46.500 Yeah.
00:50:47.240 I'm not tired of winning yet.
00:50:49.680 Yay.
00:50:50.400 Yeah, they got super mad about that.
00:50:51.960 I think I saw a Chesterton quote floating around.
00:50:54.180 Maybe Kyle Mann tweeted it.
00:50:55.200 It was like, uh, a man, a man gets angry at slander because it is false.
00:51:01.240 He gets angry at satire because it's true.
00:51:05.140 Okay.
00:51:06.580 Good news coming out of the University of Georgia.
00:51:10.580 So Unite Georgia, this is according to Fox News, and we've got a picture to put up.
00:51:14.460 Unite Georgia brought together thousands of Gen Zers for worship, prayer, and personal testimonies
00:51:18.100 at the University of Georgia just the other day.
00:51:20.820 Some students were so moved by the prayer service that they decided to get baptized in the beds
00:51:24.320 of pickup trucks nearby.
00:51:26.200 Amazing.
00:51:27.160 Unite's founder, uh, Tanya Pruitt and Nate Kearns, who was baptized at the event, both
00:51:31.520 appeared on Fox News' Ingram Angle over the weekend.
00:51:35.260 Uh, Kearns is a junior at UGA and said, I just heard the call from the Lord.
00:51:41.040 And he said, be obedient.
00:51:42.080 I listened to him to take a step of faith and let my fraternity brothers watch that.
00:51:46.360 Um, and so apparently there were lots of baptisms at the University of Georgia.
00:51:53.060 Thousands of the students, again, were worshiping together, singing.
00:51:57.680 Um, so just incredible.
00:51:59.240 And apparently this is happening at a bunch of campuses across the country.
00:52:02.840 I don't know anything actually about this particular organization, but I love seeing students
00:52:08.160 worship together.
00:52:09.420 Praise God.
00:52:10.200 And I just pray that this is something that is a spark that is lighting other campuses aflame
00:52:19.220 with fervor and love for the Lord and that lives are truly transformed by that.
00:52:24.940 So praise God.
00:52:26.180 That's really good news.
00:52:27.500 And remember, God's work doesn't always make headlines.
00:52:31.760 And he is always on the move, always changing hearts and minds, exchanging hearts of stone
00:52:39.060 for a heart of flesh.
00:52:41.660 Um, so praise God for that.
00:52:43.200 I pray that he would continue to do that.
00:52:45.080 And he will, he will.
00:52:46.760 Because remember, his eternal plan of redemption is always going off without a hitch, no matter
00:52:52.460 what we see in the news, on social media.
00:52:55.700 God is always doing exactly what he wills and Jesus will claim victory once and for all.
00:53:02.040 All right.
00:53:02.700 That's all we've got for today.
00:53:03.980 We will be back here tomorrow with a, an awesome wellness Wednesday episode that I'm super excited
00:53:10.920 about.
00:53:11.380 See you guys then.