Ep 987 ｜ Healing Breast Implant Illness, Hypothyroidism & Infertility ｜ Guest： Dr. Josh Axe
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Dr. Josh Axe is a Functional Medicine Doctor and Founder of Ancient Nutrition, a company that helps people use food as medicine and mindset medicine to heal. In this episode, Dr. Axe talks about his journey with hypothyroidism and explains what Functional Medicine is all about.
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Why are so many women removing their breast implants?
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What is birth control really doing for the body?
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Is there a more natural fix for hypothyroidism?
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We are talking about all of this and so much more on today's episode of Relatable.
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He's got so much insight for us on all of these things as well as on herbal medicine.
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He is also going to give us his biggest piece of health advice to change your life.
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I know I did on this episode of Relatable, which is brought to you by our friends at Good Ranchers.
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Dr. Axe, thanks so much for taking the time to join us.
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Can you tell everyone who you are and what you do?
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I am a functional medicine doctor and really focus on helping people use food as medicine,
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And I have a wife, Chelsea Axe, and two daughters.
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A lot of people have different ideas about functional medicine.
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Whether they really know what it is or not, their impression might be that it's some woo-woo
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witch doctor magic, and other people might have a better impression of what functional medicine is.
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I'm someone who has a better impression in that I have positive thoughts about functional medicine,
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but if I'm honest, I don't really know everything that it entails.
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So the way that I would describe it is, when somebody goes to see a conventional medical
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doctor, what they're trained to do is diagnose and treat with a chemical, with a drug and
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And those have been created by the pharmaceutical industry.
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And so when they go to school, there's zero nutrition training, zero lifestyle training.
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Functional medicine really focuses on, rather than prescribing a blood pressure pill for high
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blood pressure, we're going to say, well, hey, let's give you some, let's try and get
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And so why is your blood pressure high in the first place?
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Okay, it looks like your diet is very high in sugar.
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Let's really work on your lifestyle and your diet and maybe use some things like supplementation
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in order to help you heal to get more of the root cause of disease.
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And so, you know, another example of this is like if someone has high cholesterol, somebody
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would typically, if they go to a conventional medical doctor, would get prescribed a statin
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That statin drug is going to lower cholesterol.
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The problem is it's also going to increase the risk of a heart attack in the future and
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So functional medicine doctor is going to say, okay, we're going to go and get to the root
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We're going to prescribe or recommend turmeric, magnesium, vitamin D, dietary changes.
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We want you to start walking every single day, things like that in order to heal.
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And, you know, when I ran my practice, it was predominantly women, like a lot of hypothyroidism,
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And so the idea there is really we want to get to the root cause and then typically use
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food, supplementation, and natural treatments to help somebody heal.
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You know, it's interesting because I haven't had a whole lot of interaction with doctors.
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I mean, I've been relatively healthy, but I do have hypothyroid.
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And it's interesting that when you talk to your standard endocrinologist, they're nice
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enough people, they say that they want to help you.
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And I know there may be different answers based on Hashimoto's or different kinds of
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And is there anything that I can do in my life to help this?
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The answer is there's no root cause and there's nothing that you can do except take Synthroid,
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which I have because, you know, I want the right thyroid levels and I've had to have that
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in order to get pregnant, but still I find myself thinking almost every day, I really
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I'm thankful for medication when it's needed, but I wish someone would just tell me at least
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if there's something I can do to supplement thyroid health and my doctors say, nope, there's
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I'm sure there's a lot of people out here who want this information too.
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You know, hypothyroidism, I think I saw something recently that 60% of women have hypothyroidism
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It could be, you know, biggest signs, fatigue, thinning hair, could be fertility.
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I mean, there's a number of, there's a number of cold body temperature.
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So when you look at any sort of ancient form of medicine, the idea there of what's really
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causing it, it actually tends to start more in your adrenal glands.
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If you turn your phone on, you know, what's it at?
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Is it 80%, 40% when that battery gets too low and your adrenals get, are in too much
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Lack of quality sleep, being on, you know, devices all the time with blue light.
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There's numerous things that can start to sort of lower that battery.
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So we want to really build the battery up in Chinese medicine.
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And so what you really want to be able to do is increase that.
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And so of course, lowering stress helps, but there are herbs that really help that.
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Ashwagandha is the primary herb, has the most clinical literature on improving symptoms
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There's a few other things that do similar things.
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In addition, I would say there are certain herbs that you want to, you really want to
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Again, think about most women with hypothyroid are cold, like they tend to get colder extremities.
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And so to warm up the body, herbs like cinnamon and ginger on a regular basis, doing more soups
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and warming foods, like there's a misconception.
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A lot of times people think, and you'd be a prime example of this to where you're really
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And so you might do something like a salad, but salads are good for maybe anti-cancer properties,
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cleansing the liver, but it's actually not as good for hypothyroid because raw vegetables
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And so in order to do that, again, soups and stews and cinnamon and ginger and things that
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start to warm the body internally, we'll start to help that.
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And that's definitely one thing I don't know a lot about is herbal medicine.
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And I'll just be honest, and maybe I reflect the attitudes of some people in the audience.
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When I hear herbal medicine and when I hear Chinese medicine, I do start to think of, and
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I'm not really sure why, like new age mysticism type stuff.
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You know, I grew up in a home where my, you know, I had one of these moms, amazing Christian
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Everything that wasn't, you know, you read about in the Bible.
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Now, there are actually quite a few herbs that are talked about in the Bible.
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But so, and here's the other thing that people don't realize.
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If people are okay with pharmaceuticals, they should be absolutely way more okay with herbs.
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Now, currently it's about 33% of pharmaceuticals are just directly synthetic compounds from herbs.
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So when you're looking at an herb, metformin, that's from lilac.
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So all medications are taken almost from herbals.
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And so I do think that because, and here's why this happened.
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A lot of Chinese medicine, the basis is off of something called Taoism.
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And Taoism is really this idea of everything is interrelated.
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But really, these things are talked about in Genesis, in a way, in terms of, you know,
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in the beginning was, you know, night and day and earth and sky and man and woman.
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And so they just use different terminology that sounds different to us.
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All that being said, you know, herbs are things that, you know, God created them to grow,
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I mean, they work more naturally with our own system.
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And so that's a viewpoint I think a lot of people have.
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But what I've seen is the past 15 years, it's really changed a lot.
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I've seen a lot more Christians start to, as they've understood and read about herbs and
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what they do, they start understanding that, oh, these are things that God put here that
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I believe much more, I don't want to say, I'll just say this.
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You know, there's a Bible verse that reminds me of this.
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God, you know, God will bring blessing and it'll add no trouble to it.
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You know, there's a proverb that says that essentially.
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And there's not a single medication without a side effect.
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Birth control depletes your body of a load of nutrients.
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A baby aspirin is the fifth, NSAIDs are the 15th leading killer in the country today.
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The third leading killer in all of the Western world today are the adverse side effects of
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And so, anyways, that's a little bit of my thoughts on it.
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But I believe, you know, we're using it in our food.
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I mean, turmeric has been used in our food or dill or parsley or ginger or garlic for years.
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So we're just doing a little bit of higher doses of those most of the time.
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And would you say that there is ever a place for pharmaceutical drugs?
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I believe that most pharmaceuticals should be used for a much shorter period of time than they
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For instance, if somebody goes in with clinical depression, they go into their physician,
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their doctor might say, you're going to be on this drug, and they may plan to keep them
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That's not intentionally, if you go back and read the founding of, you know, the creation
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of these drugs, it was supposed to be for a short period of time, maybe three months,
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and work to get them off it because there are side effects.
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Whether it's hypothyroidism or autoimmune disease or any condition, somebody goes into a doctor.
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I believe functional medicine doctors really should be more of the primary care.
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The first thing you're doing is saying, let's change your diet.
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Let's try some vitamins and herbs and things like that.
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If we exhaust that and it doesn't work, okay, now let's work on getting you on a medication
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At the same time, trying to get you off it over time.
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And you mentioned how doctors or how medical students are being trained in these medical
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And we've talked about this before, that basically you're just kind of memorizing diagnoses and
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then what medication or treatment you are supposed to apply to a particular diagnosis.
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And they are very often not taught, one, how the body is connected.
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Maybe they're going into a certain specialty and so they're only focusing on that.
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They have to tap another specialist when they're actually practicing medicine to help them understand
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But really how you're describing functional medicine is not only understanding the root
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causes and the more natural routes to take, but also how everything is potentially connected
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in the body so that you're not just going to a functional medicine doctor for your brain
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But the functional medicine doctor knows how these things work together, right?
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So here's a prime example of this, Hashimoto's thyroiditis.
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Most doctors would try and treat it like it's a thyroid issue.
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Now, some may use something to suppress the immune system and treat it like an autoimmune
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disease, but in reality, it's starting in the gut with something called intestinal permeability
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So if a doctor is really trying to get at the root cause, they're looking at how one system
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For instance, we know anger, the emotion affects the liver, which then affects your heart and
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But again, most doctors, you're right, they look at the body in one system.
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And if they can change this one symptom, they're really not paying attention to all the other
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side effects and damage they're doing throughout, you know, throughout the rest of the body.
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I mean, they're, again, you can ask me, what was any medication?
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Most people think that medications have all of the side effects listed on the label.
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Every medication depletes the body of different types of nutrients.
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If you go and look at metformin for diabetes, does it say on there, depletes your body of
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So there's a lot of people having side effects that they don't realize that they're having
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And it seems like it's such a responsibility and a big burden for those of us who didn't
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We don't have a medical background to try to understand all that because you're describing
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a side effect that even if a doctor told me it causes this, I'd be like, well, okay,
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And if this doctor is telling me, well, it doesn't really matter what side effects that
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you'll get from this medication, you have to take it, then I'm thinking they know best.
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Well, and think about it like this at an even more expansive level.
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Think about COVID and Dr. Fauci, the CDC, those recommendations.
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It's like, okay, well, we're going to have everybody wear masks and stand six feet apart
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and go on lockdowns and get people on ventilators and all these things.
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Okay, well, you may be treating this, what you believe is a good treatment for viral infection.
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Alcoholism, more drug abuse, depression, loneliness.
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In fact, a study came out recently showing that loneliness, if you're feeling extreme loneliness,
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it's the equivalent of smoking 15 cigarettes a day.
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So there are really major side effects, and you know this, and this is one of the reasons
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why I respect you so much as a political commentator and your wisdom is you understand trade-offs.
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That's one of the things that doesn't happen in the medical profession is they're not aware
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of, okay, you can treat this, but then what are all the repercussions that are happening
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And the pharmaceutical companies are, of course, financially incentivized not to talk about
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And I mean, the whole system that the pharmaceutical companies are actually marketing directly to
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It's like, and in those commercials that they have, even though they have the litany of side
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effects that they read at the very end, all of the people look like their life has been
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changed, no more psoriasis or whatever it is because of this drug.
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Then you go to the doctor, the doctor may even be financially incentivized to say, yes, let's
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It's a crazy system that we have here in the United States that the burden is really on
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the patient, but at the same time, the burden is on the patient to bring to our doctor, okay,
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But then if we ask questions about the trade-offs, about the side effects, we're kind of made
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We're being marketed to directly by the pharmaceutical companies, but if we question the pharmaceutical
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companies to our doctor, then we're told to shut up.
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My entire career has been focused on, I want to help the person, the patient, I want to help
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them know everything they can about their body and how to heal themselves.
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I'm not trying to be that person for you versus there's a lot of doctors with a God
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When COVID was going on and we were at the thick of it, with the background and the expertise
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that you had, I mean, what were you thinking when you were watching all of this unfold?
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Well, one, I was, I was really, so, so I came out, let me give you an example.
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I don't know if you know Gabe and Rebecca Lyons.
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And so I went and did a podcast and I shared, listen, there are a lot of different types
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And certain ones you treat differently, but generally there are principles about if you
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have a viral infection of things you need to do.
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And the philosophy that I have that's very different than the conventional medical system
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is, is that, uh, I don't try and treat disease.
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Cause if your own immune system is strong, your body will eliminate the disease on its
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It's like, why does one person get sick in the office and the other person doesn't?
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And so when this was going on, I went and I went through recommendations.
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I said, we need to do high dose vitamin D, zinc, vitamin C.
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People need to get outside and walk every single day.
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Started going through this whole protocol in, uh, ancient forms of medicine.
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Foods that are light yellow and white tend to be the ones that are the most immune boosting.
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So think garlic, onions, ginger, chicken bone broth, miso.
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Those are all things that are really strengthening.
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And then I actually had a Christian magazine go and write like a hit piece on me saying
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So I, I knew that this, I generally knew what was going to start to happen, um, in terms
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of all the side effects when you isolate people and people get less time outdoors.
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And, but it was, the thing was, it was like, even though I was saying certain things at
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the time, it's like, I tried to walk up to the edge on platforms like YouTube, but not
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try and overstep because it's like, well, you know, people didn't want to be fully deplatformed.
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I still tried to push it as far as I could, but it was, it was sort of like, I want to
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lead the horse to water, but not make the people drink in terms of how, how I tried to communicate.
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And of course, I'm not a health expert, but when I did have doctors on who were talking
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about, I don't know, we might need to slow our roll when it comes to ventilators, remdesivir,
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We had to put a lot of it behind the paywall because we knew that, okay, if we get taken
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off YouTube because of this message, then we can't convey any of the other important messages
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that are out there. So a lot of people had to thread that needle and walk that line. And it
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was really tough watching. I mean, even someone just from a common sense perspective, okay,
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they're encouraging things that could actually encourage and exacerbate something like
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obesity. And we know that obesity makes COVID a lot more dangerous and we're not even allowed
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Well, that's one of the things I mentioned when I was doing this, this, this talk is, is that
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94% of people that died of COVID was due to comorbidity. It was actually, it was, it was
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more due to the condition they had, not COVID itself.
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Right. And you weren't really supposed to talk about that.
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Let's go back to something that you mentioned, birth control. This is a hot topic right now. We've
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talked about it a few times on my podcast. Of course, the ethics behind it from pro-life
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position and all of that, but I'm interested in what you said about birth control depleting the
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body of certain things that it needs. What do you mean by that?
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Well, first off, I want to say, this is a really important issue because 65% of women between the
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ages of 15 and 49 are on birth control. So it is a, it is a lot of women. And when you look at
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birth control, what it does in terms of specifically increasing estrogen, that, that acts like a
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fertilizer as well for, but the biggest symptom I had that women have when they, when I, when I see
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them after they are getting off birth control is candida and yeast overgrowth. They start to get
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really major GI issues as well because of what's happening there with the hormone balance, hormone
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imbalance of estrogen. The other thing is, so the nutrients that are depleted, every B vitamin,
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you can list off every B1, B2, B3, B6, B9, which is folate, and then methylcobalamin, which is,
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which is B12. So all, every single one of those is depleted. Part of those are depleted because
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what birth control does is it starts to deplete good bacteria in the gut and increase bad bacteria.
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There's a study out of Stanford that found that when you decrease your good bacteria in your gut
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and increase bad, your B vitamin absorption drops by over 50%. So, so, so really there's a lot of B
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vitamins being decreased. Vitamin C is also decreased zinc, which is important for immune function. And then
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of course, probiotics are, are, are wiped out. So, so, so those are some of the big side effects that
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are not listed on the label that women don't realize they're having. There was another study that came
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out recently as well that showed that you, if you take birth control for more than five years,
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it triples your risk of certain types of autoimmune disease, specifically inflammatory bowel disease
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and Sjogren's disease. And so there's, some of this is new research that people haven't even heard
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before, but the reality is, is that if people are on birth control, there are major side effects.
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It's increasing your risk of autoimmune disease. So basically the big thing it's doing, it's
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weakening, weakening your immune system and causing nutritional deficiencies and B vitamin
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deficiencies are really affect numerous organs. I mean, your thyroid, especially in your adrenal
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glands. And so again, these are, these are facts. A lot of people don't, don't know.
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Yeah. It's interesting. Of course, I'm thinking I'm like mapping together my own health issues. And I
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was put on birth control in high school. Like a lot of my friends were, who were not, we were not
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sexually active, but because it was like, okay, you're 17 years old and you, your hormones are still
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working themselves out. And so like your period is a little bit wonky or something. And the doctor
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says, well, let's just put you on birth control. Now we always talk about, we look back and we're
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like, did she just assume that we actually were all sexually active and she was trying to protect us
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or whatever, but she kind of put us all on Yaz, which now you see those commercials, like where you
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put on Yaz, if you have XYZ symptom, you could be, you know, get some compensation or something,
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which is crazy. And then it's, but I look back and it's interesting because I just thought,
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okay, well, this is just what I need. And of course she says, it'll help your acne. It'll
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help you just feel better in general. I don't even know. But then it wasn't too long after that,
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a couple of years later that I was out of nowhere as like 19 diagnosed with hypothyroid. She didn't
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say it was Hashimoto's. And then another thing, I think a couple of years later, I was 21 years old
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when I got shingles. And then for some reason, after I got shingles, I don't even know what it was,
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but I just was like, I'm not going to do birth control anymore. I'm getting off birth control.
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And I did. And I was totally fine. I had, I mean, I was completely, my cycle was totally regular.
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I didn't have acne. I didn't have any problems. I did not need to be on birth control.
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And I've never gotten that sick again. Not that I've never gotten sick,
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Well, the thing about what I just mentioned there, what birth control affects,
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it affects your immune system, weakens that, and it affects B vitamins, specifically thiamine and
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some of the others that affect your, really, really run your thyroid. So when you're on it,
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you tend to not have as many symptoms. When you get off, that's when you're going to start having
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the symptoms that you had. One thing that I think would help a lot of women is if they've ever taken
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birth control, getting, you can either get tested for how well your body, something called
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methylation, how well your body is methylating, but certain people don't methylate very well.
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And so their body isn't utilizing and converting B vitamins correctly. And so a lot of women who
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have your exact same experience can get on methylated B vitamins and it can really, really help
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some of those symptoms of thyroid issues. Interesting. Speaking of a disease or an illness
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that is specifically kind of affecting women is breast plant illness, which is a new thing for me that
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I've heard of women getting their breast implants removed because it was causing all kinds of like
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flu-like symptoms. Can you tell us like what is going on there?
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Yeah. So, well, let's start off with what you're putting in your body. You're putting in silicone,
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which is sort of a mix, a mixture between rubber meets plastic. Okay. It's fossil fuels or certain
00:25:14.200
chemicals there that, that, that make up an implant. And so, you know, what, what, what they've done is
00:25:19.980
they've done studies where they've said, well, it's not really leaching. Well, they've done other
00:25:23.980
studies to show, well, if you put it in vinegar or alcohol or certain things, well, it does start
00:25:27.440
to leach. And so I think the leaching of the implant, the chemicals there is very minor, but it
00:25:33.800
does have, but think about minor leaching over 10, 20, 30 years, what starts to happen in the body.
00:25:40.380
The other thing is if there's a rupture, I mean, there's a tremendous, it's like a flood of,
00:25:44.820
of chemicals being released in your system. And there was a recent study that came out. So I mentioned
00:25:49.320
birth control triples your increase of certain autoimmune diseases. Well, breast implants,
00:25:54.900
new study came out showing that it increases your risk of autoimmune disease by six to eight times.
00:26:00.500
And so some of the biggest symptoms of breast implant illness could be rashes, joint pain,
00:26:08.780
hormonal changes, thinning hair. I mean, there's, there's a number of them, but it's, it's, it's,
00:26:13.600
really an issue. Like I, and this has been a personal thing for me. Like my mother-in-law had hers
00:26:17.360
removed. She just turned 60 and about five years ago, she had hers removed and walked her through
00:26:22.560
the process of detoxing and healing. Good friend of mine, Natalie Jill. I mean, I, I probably know
00:26:27.040
30 people that have had their implants removed. There's a lot of people and all of them said
00:26:30.620
afterwards, I feel better. I noticed the difference. Here's the other thing that's significant
00:26:33.760
is, is that when women have had their implants removed and they've had any symptom at all,
00:26:38.720
75% of the time within one year, all of their symptoms are gone.
00:26:42.120
Wow. So it's, it's, there's, there's definitely connection. And the thing that really saddens
00:26:46.320
me is a lot of these women go into their doctors and they say, it's all in your head. Hey, it's
00:26:50.500
not real. And the reality is there are, there might not be a double blind study on this, but
00:26:56.520
there are millions of individual, or at least let me just say this, at least tens of thousands
00:27:00.680
of individual case studies where women are saying, no, this, you know, really affected my
00:27:04.880
health in a negative way. Yeah. Okay. We're kind of jumping around here. Cause I'm kind of
00:27:09.120
going back to the birth control conversation a little bit and, but we're kind of staying
00:27:14.320
in the realm of women, but I guess this affects men too. When we're talking about fertility rates
00:27:21.300
and of course I see it most in women who are struggling to have like a normal cycle, they've
00:27:27.920
got hormonal issues, they've got endocrine problems, autoimmune problems, and they're going
00:27:34.280
to the fertility specialist and they're hearing IVF is your only option. There's no root cause
00:27:40.020
of this. You're just one of those weird cases that you can't have kids. They want a kid.
00:27:45.060
They go through with the IVF, but their health problems are never really addressed. And very
00:27:49.860
often, even after spending hundreds of thousands of dollars in IVF, they can't have healthy pregnancies
00:27:54.900
because there's something going on with their bodies that's not being addressed. So like,
00:27:59.720
what have you seen in this rise in infertility, number one, and what do you think about how we
00:28:06.240
can be addressing this better? Yeah. Yeah. This is something I have a lot of firsthand
00:28:09.600
experience with and helping women who were struggling with infertility get pregnant. I mean,
00:28:13.460
I could have a load of them call in or share their stories of what we did that there's two primary
00:28:18.680
issues here. So one thing to know is one in six women struggle with infertility. That's a pretty high
00:28:24.280
rate. And one in four pregnancies are miscarried or close to that. So I mean, this is really a
00:28:30.580
significant issue. So when we look at the main cause, it really has to do with the reproductive
00:28:36.020
organs and the adrenals, the relationship there. And it's sort of what I mentioned earlier, even
00:28:40.040
connection to the thyroid, is that your battery is very low and we need to start to build up the
00:28:45.020
battery there. And so there are certain things that do that. One is a healthy diet. Getting a diet
00:28:50.260
that's very nutrient dense, you especially need B vitamins and selenium, zinc, magnesium are some of
00:28:56.740
the most important. And so I would say eating a diet rich in wild organic meat, fruit like berries
00:29:03.300
specifically would be good. Rice has some unique nutrients that are good for that. And then I would
00:29:08.280
also say vegetables. And so that really should be the basis of the diet. But we really want to
00:29:13.580
strengthen up the adrenal glands. That's really the idea there. There are a category of herbs called
00:29:17.640
adaptogens that tend to be the most beneficial for that. Ashwagandha is one of those. And so
00:29:23.320
especially if a woman has hypothyroid and infertility, that's probably the top herb that
00:29:28.200
would be recommended. And then there's others. I mentioned cordyceps, donquoise and other, but
00:29:34.220
there's a lot of adaptogens. Reishi mushroom, those would all be helpful. Methylated B vitamins,
00:29:40.060
again, I would say B vitamins and adaptogens. Those are the two categories of things that women would
00:29:44.860
need the most to support getting fertile. Now there's a second part, and this is especially
00:29:49.340
associated with miscarriage, where conceiving is more adrenal reproductive. Carrying is more
00:29:56.240
connected to the pancreas and insulin levels. So if insulin gets high and your blood sugar gets too
00:30:01.180
high, that really has been linked to in studies to miscarriage. And so with that, we want to stop
00:30:07.960
over-consuming sugar and refined carbohydrates in those foods. That will cause issues. Exercise can help
00:30:12.800
with that as well. Certain minerals, there's really a unique micromineral called chromium
00:30:19.180
picolinate that's been shown to help. Cinnamon and fenugreek are two herbs that also help. So those
00:30:24.580
are some things that would help. Now, this is me stepping more into the ancient medicine that I know
00:30:28.580
some people maybe have a little bit of skepticism about. But if we're getting into more of sort of the
00:30:34.500
ideology around it, is that conceiving is really related to going deep and just having peace in your
00:30:42.720
life. Like you have peace, you have purpose. Here's an example of this. People, once they retire,
00:30:51.420
if they don't find something after retiring to live for, like a mission, they die early. It takes
00:30:56.100
years off their life. So we know someone having a purpose is actually uniquely tied to longevity and
00:31:02.780
health of your organs. So if a woman feels like, hey, I've got a purpose and I'm also at peace in my
00:31:08.580
life, that according to these ancient forms of medicine actually helps with fertility. Now,
00:31:13.640
there's an emotion that actually affects carrying a child and that is worry. If somebody has a lot
00:31:18.360
of worry and constantly worrying about everything, obsessing about things, never turns it off,
00:31:22.900
that will affect the pancreas. And I've seen this in people. If anyone's ever worn a continuous blood
00:31:27.700
glucose monitor, you can wear those on your arm, shows your blood sugar levels all the time.
00:31:31.660
You know, if you're even driving a car, it goes up. Any form of stress rises it. So the more you can
00:31:36.240
just balance blood sugar, the way to do that with diet is meat, vegetables, or pretty much it's
00:31:42.740
protein, fat, and fiber. Get protein, fat, and fiber, cut the sugar. That'll help a lot.
00:31:48.240
You know, I know this is kind of getting a little personal here, but we're talking about like
00:32:05.240
conception and pregnancy. And I am very, very grateful that we've been able to be pregnant
00:32:10.760
and have healthy pregnancies three times. I do not take that for granted, but we didn't get pregnant
00:32:16.120
right away. And I just assumed that that's what would happen. As soon as you start trying,
00:32:21.480
that's, you know, the euphemism that we can use. I just thought it would happen. I mean,
00:32:25.300
both of us are relatively healthy. Sure, I have hypothyroid, but it was well managed. And so,
00:32:30.900
but it didn't happen right away. Actually, all three times, it took us four months. I don't really
00:32:36.600
know why, but I do know the only thing I can think of is really there was kind of, there's always
00:32:42.420
like a mental shift for me around like three or four months. Before that, I'm stressed. I'm stressed
00:32:48.080
out thinking about it and tracking all the different things. And I've got the app. And then
00:32:52.520
for whatever reason, around three, four months, I'm like, you know what? If it happens, it happens.
00:32:59.280
And so it's, I just kind of got to let go of it. And then it's always around that time. And I'm not
00:33:06.000
trying to say out there that that's the exact formula that's going to happen for you. But it seems like
00:33:11.720
my friends have had the same experience. And you're like, okay, we're just having fun. It's
00:33:16.340
fine. I'm not going to worry too much about it. That does seem to be, at least for some people,
00:33:22.460
something that helps. Well, you know how many women I've heard say this? I got pregnant when
00:33:26.440
I stopped trying. Yes, right. Exactly. And so I think that does speak to what you're saying. And
00:33:32.200
there's a biblical aspect of that too, of just not worrying and not being anxious. And when God tells
00:33:38.800
us over and over again throughout scripture, do not fear, do not be anxious about anything.
00:33:43.600
Really? Anything? Anything. Do not worry. Rejoice in everything, even in the difficulties that,
00:33:51.180
of course, there's spiritual health to that. But we have to also think that the God who made our
00:33:55.060
bodies knows that that is physically good for us too. Yeah. Well, one thing a lot of people I don't
00:33:59.920
think realize is that different emotions affect different organ systems. So we know, for instance,
00:34:06.560
high blood pressure is really tied more to anxiousness. And so if you get anxious, your
00:34:10.120
blood pressure will start to rise. Fear, most people know this one as well, that affects the
00:34:15.660
adrenals. Your body starts producing more cortisol and stress hormones. Worry, stomach, think about if
00:34:21.500
somebody was worrying over a test or exam, let's say, oh, my stomach is like tied knots. And then the
00:34:26.980
other one would be anger that affects the liver and gallbladder and lymphatic system. And then grief.
00:34:31.580
You know, I had a patient once who she, and this happens quite frequently, got a divorce and just
00:34:39.960
was grieving about it for years. And then she developed autoimmune disease. But grief is really
00:34:44.480
tied to your immune system. If you grieve, it can cause a cough, a cold. Basically, it's not letting
00:34:49.340
go of the past, able to move forward. So there are, I mean, it's amazing to think how deeply tied
00:34:56.500
our emotional and spiritual well-being is to our physical health.
00:34:59.460
Yeah. Okay. I've got a question for you on that. I have heard, this is another recent discovery of
00:35:06.400
mine, that there are different theories about how we get sick. Terrain theory versus germ theory,
00:35:16.960
which, okay, this is just my amateur thinking. My amateur thinking is that it's both. I do think
00:35:23.400
when you're anxious, when you're worried, when you're sad, that of course suppresses your immune
00:35:26.820
system. Your body is using energy in a different way. I know that's true for me. But at the same
00:35:33.380
time, also, I have gotten viruses. Things are clearly contagious to me. And germs do seem to
00:35:42.700
cause illness. Maybe I'm not understanding it correctly. I don't know. But it seems like it
00:35:50.060
You're exactly, you're understanding exactly right. It's, it's, it's both. It's Bechamp's
00:35:59.580
Well, I haven't heard of Bechamp's. I've only heard of.
00:36:05.260
Terrain theory. Where Louis Pasteur was germ theory.
00:36:09.820
And so what happens is, if your immune system is strong, if you've got zinc, if you have vitamin D,
00:36:15.320
if you're low on stress, if you've got a lot of, you know, natural killer cells that are there and
00:36:19.680
ready. So if your body is generally very healthy, you can be exposed to certain viruses and you
00:36:24.880
won't have any symptoms. Now, if you, if it's a, if it's a virus, your body hasn't dealt with before
00:36:29.600
or certain bacteria or fungus or parasite, whatever it is, then, then your body oftentimes will express
00:36:34.360
a symptom. And so it is both. It is, you know, the terrain theory is all about you get sick because
00:36:39.200
your body is sick and not well. Germ theory is you get sick because you're exposed to a germ.
00:36:43.900
And the answer is again, the terrain, the Bechamp theory is the primary reason you get sick is
00:36:48.280
because your body is not healthy. But the secondary reason is yes, you were exposed to a germ and your
00:36:54.640
body doesn't have quite enough, could be natural killer cells or immune cells in order to, to fight
00:37:00.780
it off in time. So your body, you know, starts going through a process of doing extra things in order
00:37:05.780
to eliminate it from our systems. Okay. But it's both for sure. So it it's both germs can cause,
00:37:12.680
but the conventional medical system is it's only germ theory. Yeah. Which is why they tell us to
00:37:17.700
sanitize our hands constantly. And the thing that they're not considering there, this is such a great
00:37:22.460
point with COVID. Well, let's sanitize everything, but now you're harming your terrain, right? So now
00:37:30.940
you're killing good bacteria. I mean, people don't realize this. So the amount of antibiotics we use
00:37:37.320
topically via hand sanitizers and those things is very high cleaning products at home. Uh, the number
00:37:43.140
one source we get of antibiotics is not prescription. It's via livestock. 80% of antibiotics today are
00:37:50.720
given to cattle. Yeah. And so we are getting some of that antibiotic residue. So, so we have a lot of
00:37:55.480
these things we're exposed to, which can weaken our immune system. And I do think we should wash our
00:38:00.380
hands. I just think hot water and things that aren't the strongly antibacterial lightly. It could
00:38:05.860
be a everything, an essential oil, something like that would, would actually be a lot better for our
00:38:10.000
systems. So if we are deciding, say we're putting our baby in the shopping cart sitting right in front
00:38:15.680
of us, what would be better for the baby to put their hands on the potentially germy shopping cart
00:38:22.580
handle, or for us to take that Purell sanitizing wipe and wipe it down in your opinion? So I've got a
00:38:28.480
two-part answer. Number one is, I don't think you have to wipe it down. Okay. Now there is a great,
00:38:35.820
there's a great study. And the person who did this study talked about, he said, more kids need to roll
00:38:41.840
around on the New York subway. And so that was that, that was the basis of the paper. Now that is filthy.
00:38:46.800
Okay. So, so we know that, but, but they go through and in part of the study was also related to,
00:38:52.460
uh, vaginal birth versus C-section. Yeah. And really there are studies that show
00:38:57.720
vaginal birth, you know, kids are going to tend to have stronger immune systems. And what they were
00:39:02.300
recommending in the paper was if you were doing C-section, go and take some of those fluids and
00:39:06.800
some of the, uh, some of the bacteria and then wipe it all over your child afterwards, because it's
00:39:12.140
really an important part of the immune development process. So we make sense. Yeah. So kids have to
00:39:17.280
have that exposure. Now here's, what's better than the germs of the shot on the shopping cart is getting
00:39:22.760
outside in the dirt. There are studies that show that kids that grow up on farms, kids that have
00:39:27.600
pets, specifically a dog or cat have stronger immune systems because they're getting more exposure to
00:39:32.540
natural germs that are in nature. The way this works, when we hear of vaccination and immunization,
00:39:38.600
we tend to only think of the shots today. That's the only way to do it. The reality is, is things
00:39:43.280
like honey, which contains over 200 types of pollen. When you're consuming raw local honey regularly or
00:39:48.820
local vegetables and fruits, there are microbes in there called soil-based organisms that we expose
00:39:54.660
ourselves to, which then help and allow our body to build a natural immunity to something,
00:39:59.600
strengthening our immune system. So one of the greatest ways to immunize ourselves truly
00:40:03.580
is to have a garden, spend time outdoors, have a pet, visit a farm, ride a horse, which, which not a lot
00:40:10.800
of people do today. Yeah. And I think going, going back to the conversation about the shopping cart,
00:40:16.660
my best advice would be spray it down with some essential oil, something that's more natural the body
00:40:21.960
can handle that's not as strong of an antibiotic. And then let your kids get out. In fact, I wrote
00:40:27.180
a book, I don't know if you know this, it's called Eat Dirt. And I really get into all of this in terms
00:40:31.580
of this sort of microbe theory and, and a lot of what we've been discussing. Okay. So when you say
00:40:38.700
eat dirt, you're talking about like the local honey and the things like that that you're talking about?
00:40:44.260
I am. I am. And here's an example. If you go to your local farmer's market and buy carrots or beets,
00:40:49.620
and you just bring them home and just wash them off with water or baking soda or vinegar,
00:40:53.900
whatever you're going to use, there is still, if you can hold them up real close, you're gonna
00:40:57.040
see a little brown speck still in there. Those are called soil-based organisms. So they're actually
00:41:01.480
probiotics on the outside of the plant that when we consume them, they help us break down and actually
00:41:06.560
digest the food better. So somebody is going to the grocery store and buying those baby carrots that
00:41:11.720
are kind of all shiny. They've been peeled and sprayed with probably chlorine. They're not getting those
00:41:16.720
soil-based organisms like you would be if you were buying those carrots. And so, yeah, I'm not saying
00:41:21.860
go out and eat handfuls of dirt, but I am saying a little dirt under your fingernails, kids being
00:41:25.200
exposed to that actually is good for their immune system. Okay. That's good. Cause my two older kids
00:41:30.560
really like to hunt beetles and worms and roly polies right now. So I'm glad that it's not only like a,
00:41:38.180
an okay pastime for them as far as like not being in front of screens, but also maybe for their
00:41:44.020
physical health too. Well, there's, there's something really interesting. It's called hormesis.
00:41:47.740
And this is what we've all seen the cold plant. You've seen how popular cold plunging has become.
00:41:52.520
So the reason why cold plunging can be beneficial is it helps your body be able to adapt better to
00:41:57.320
cold in the future. Okay. That's part of the benefit. Okay. And so when you're eating these
00:42:02.020
soil-based organisms or exposed to viruses or like the chicken pox, like when I was a kid,
00:42:06.220
now your body's better able to defend itself in the future. If you never let the body fight a fight on
00:42:11.660
its own, it can't become a better fighter. That's part of the idea. Okay. What do you think about
00:42:16.620
cold plunging specifically for women? Cause I've heard mixed things. Here's what I think it is
00:42:21.500
completely person dependent. Like my, my dietary philosophy is everybody's a unique individual
00:42:27.660
and everybody needs a different type of diet for the most part. Now that there are certain principles
00:42:32.960
like eat real food, you know, for most people. And I think generally speaking, more people do better
00:42:37.300
eating organic meat, a lot more vegetables and fruits, but everybody's unique individual. If I
00:42:43.200
have somebody with cancer come in, I'm going to have them do a lot of greens, some salads,
00:42:47.260
some vegetable juice. But if I put somebody with inflammatory bowel disease, raw vegetables,
00:42:52.900
it's going to wreck their system. So it's highly individualized. So with cold plunge, if you're a
00:42:58.360
woman and you have a cold body temperature, okay, you're, you're, you're cold more often than you're
00:43:04.880
warm. I don't think cold plunging is the best. I would recommend infrared sauna for those women
00:43:09.760
across the board, get an infrared sauna a lot. Cold plunging. If you did it once a week to help
00:43:14.480
your body better adapt to stress, that might be okay. But doing daily cold plunges for women,
00:43:19.880
especially with hypothyroidism or low body temperature, not a good idea. Okay. And what
00:43:24.340
do you think about, um, red light therapy? Yeah. Yeah. Red light therapy, what it does,
00:43:30.620
it really activates and helps strengthen our body with what it's called our mitochondria. And so your
00:43:34.860
mitochondria is like the engines of our cells. And so there are benefits of that. And I think,
00:43:39.920
um, one of the reasons why people get sick is there's lack of blood flow and nutrients and
00:43:45.920
oxygen bring brought to the area. When you put red light on an area, it's increasing blood flow,
00:43:52.220
oxygen and nutrients bring brought to the area. So I do think it's therapeutic. It's, it's a similar
00:43:56.720
thing to the sun. When you get the sun, it's really beneficial in small doses or moderate doses,
00:44:02.440
uh, for the skin, for the liver, for the immune system, for your bones, for numerous organs,
00:44:07.500
red light therapies that it's not as powerful as the sun, but there's still a lot of those similar
00:44:12.320
benefits. Are you a fan of someone trying to, um, I don't know the right terminology,
00:44:20.660
get in tune with their, is it circadian rhythms? Yeah. Circadian rhythms. Are you someone who believes
00:44:28.100
that that has a lot of benefits waking up in the morning, grounding, looking at the sun?
00:44:32.640
Yeah. Yeah, I am. Now, listen, I think there, the other thing I'd mention is there's majors and
00:44:36.780
minors. If, if, if everybody would try and follow every piece of health advice,
00:44:40.860
it would be overwhelming. It's very overwhelming. It is.
00:44:44.300
So I would say this, uh, in terms of importance, getting outside daily is pretty high on my list.
00:44:50.660
Just getting outside, going for a walk. Uh, it is true. When you see sunlight,
00:44:55.680
unlike indoor light, your body starts to start to lower the melatonin, raise the cortisol. It
00:45:01.700
starts to balance those hormones. And the way hormones work, it's like a domino. If insulin
00:45:05.640
gets off or melatonin gets off or cortisol gets off, well, then estrogen is off, then progesterone,
00:45:11.480
then testosterone. So there's sort of this thing that happens in the body. So if you can get outside
00:45:15.540
in the morning, get some natural sunlight, it's about 15 minutes is what some of the studies show.
00:45:19.920
So it really helps you reset your body for the day. Ideally. Now your, our body's amazing at
00:45:26.520
adapting. So if you don't, your body will still do it. It'll just take longer and it's not as ideal,
00:45:31.520
but there are definite benefits of getting outside early. Grounding is good. It's not a magic pill.
00:45:36.440
It's not, I mean, again, I think that, um, there are benefits of having our feet directly on the earth,
00:45:43.540
but, um, and I encourage people to do it, but there are other things that are more important,
00:46:04.420
Speaking of feeling overwhelmed by all of the medical advice out there. One thing that
00:46:11.160
I don't want to say frustrates me because I under, you know, I've been to the chiropractor. I've been
00:46:16.000
to some more natural doctors. I haven't been to a functional medicine doctor yet, but one thing
00:46:21.980
that they always say, even like getting a massage or something is that you're stressed. You need to
00:46:27.100
lower your stress levels. And that kind of stresses me out more. Like I did this assessment that was
00:46:33.800
like you're in fight or flight too much and you're parasympathetic nerve. Yeah. All of that is,
00:46:41.820
you know, it's working too hard, which I understand how that could affect my health. I know that that's
00:46:46.620
not good, but I'm like, okay, but there's only so much I can do to relieve, you know, to relieve stress.
00:46:56.040
I am doing what I think that I can, but my life is just, this is just like the season of life that
00:47:03.280
we're in. We've got three little kids. We've got a lot going on. It's a happy season, but there's
00:47:08.320
just a lot. And I do kind of feel like I have to be on a lot. And so, and I'm sure that other people
00:47:15.560
have felt that way, that when you're just kind of told by the more functional doctors that, okay,
00:47:20.840
you're stressed, you need to be less stressed, that kind of adds stress. So how do we approach that?
00:47:25.260
Can I tell you, I mean, I used to have this happen all the time. I would have patients come in and
00:47:30.120
maybe we've been to 10 other doctors and, and I would ask them, I'd say, well, you know, what did
00:47:34.720
your other doctor recommend you do? And they would say something like reduce stress. And I said, well,
00:47:38.880
what did he tell you to do? Or she tell you to do? And they would say, well, they didn't,
00:47:42.780
they just said reduce stress. And it's so ridiculous. So, so for most people, here's the issue.
00:47:47.740
It's not, it's not stress. It's that you don't, it's not, we're going to have stress
00:47:55.240
with kids. We're going to have stress with career. We're going to have, like, some of
00:47:57.980
that is natural. It's that it's going all day, every day. And so for most people, they
00:48:04.360
just need to schedule to do more things that they enjoy doing. That's really it. That's
00:48:09.100
the top way that people can reduce stress. Cause it's, it's almost, it is more stressful
00:48:12.980
to be like, and I've seen this with so many patients. I've seen them make themselves worse
00:48:16.560
because they're like, I got to reduce stress. So they're running around from appointment
00:48:20.400
to appointment. I'm going to get a massage. I'm going to do red light therapy. I'm going to
00:48:25.240
all that being said, here's how you do to reduce stress. Schedule lunch with a best
00:48:29.620
friend, schedule time to go on a walk with your family. So just schedule, take a, take
00:48:35.780
a Sabbath that despite what somebody would believe about, you know, I know on this show,
00:48:39.480
you've got all kinds of different probably beliefs about, should you follow a Sabbath?
00:48:42.740
You shouldn't, but all that being said, I think you probably should take a full day, give
00:48:47.360
it to God and your family. But all that being said, if people want to reduce stress, write
00:48:51.660
down the top five or 10 things that you love doing that kind of bring you peace and happiness,
00:48:56.360
reading a novel, whatever it is, and just schedule those things. Like you schedule other things
00:49:00.960
into your, into your daily schedule. That, that has, I've seen the best results with people
00:49:05.740
and myself just following that, that philosophy.
00:49:09.100
I love that because that is like adding something enjoyable rather than either adding an obligation
00:49:16.740
that you don't really want to do or trying to take something away. Obviously there are things
00:49:22.960
that we can take out of our lives that are making us unhealthy, like constantly being glued to our
00:49:27.080
phones. But again, trying to take everything away, then I'm, I got to add my grounding. I got to look
00:49:33.100
at the sun for 15 minutes. Oh, I didn't do that. Now my entire day is off. Let me try to make it up
00:49:38.200
by doing the red light therapy in the sauna. And I'm not saying all those things are bad. They can
00:49:42.280
all be great things, but if they are causing our stress levels to go up and make us feel like
00:49:47.120
failures every day, then it's probably going to be really counterproductive for our health.
00:49:51.880
A hundred percent. And there are certain conditions. I see a lot of people with Lyme disease,
00:49:55.940
fibromyalgia, certain autoimmune to where it's, they're making them, what's making them just as sick as
00:50:02.220
possibly a poor diet or, or, or other things is just being stressed about their condition.
00:50:08.200
For sure. Yeah. Um, what, if you were to say in general, you said everyone is bio-individual,
00:50:14.780
but if you were giving general health advice for how to eat, um, vegan versus, uh, carnivore diet
00:50:27.100
versus keto versus just eating everything organically in moderation, like what would you say?
00:50:32.780
I generally don't like any of those diets because it is so individualized. Now, do I think about 10%
00:50:39.660
of people to 20% for a period of time could benefit on ketogenic if they have MS or, uh, there's
00:50:46.060
epileptic seizures or something like that? Yes. Do I think if somebody has a really severe form of
00:50:51.480
inflammatory autoimmune disease, they could do well on carnivore for a short time? Yes. Do I think
00:50:55.860
somebody with cancer can maybe benefit on being vegan for, to do a cleanse for a couple of weeks?
00:51:00.800
Yes. But I think that for, let's call it 75 to 80% of people, you want to try and get organic meat
00:51:11.100
and bone broth and those sorts of things. You want to get vegetables. You want to get fruits.
00:51:18.560
You want to try and get some healthy fats, coconut, olive oil, uh, coconut, olive oil, um, avocado,
00:51:25.580
those sorts of things. And then getting some whole grains ideally that are sprouted or cooked for a
00:51:30.140
long time. Rice made into, we call it kanji, but just cooked. It means it's cooked a long time. Um,
00:51:35.880
sourdough bread. Like I, I eat sourdough bread. My wife makes it all the time. I love it. It's amazing.
00:51:40.120
And so, you know, you just need to prepare it properly using the ancient grains and, and, and
00:51:44.860
it's, and it's pretty healthy. So, you know, I, I really believe in a biblical diet. I mean,
00:51:48.920
if you want to know what I believe in, it's really a biblically based diet that's also based on the
00:51:52.860
individual. I mean, Jesus was eating fish and bread. Solomon ate meat and bread. Abraham ate meat
00:51:57.880
and bread. So there's even this whole paleo movement. I was never part of the paleo movement of
00:52:01.720
remove all grains and this and that, because it's evolutionary. Like I'm a Christian, like I'm,
00:52:08.340
I'm all about what does the Bible teach? What, what, what are those biblical principles of health?
00:52:12.620
Yeah. And so I really think, let me just say again, meat, vegetables, fruit. If people really
00:52:17.680
focus on those, maybe some healthy fat, then that's going to go a long, long way.
00:52:22.060
And what would you say for someone who wants to lose weight? Maybe they're already kind of eating
00:52:28.520
like organic foods. They're not going out and they're eating fast food, but they're still just
00:52:34.000
not losing the weight and say they want to, or need to lose 20 pounds in a certain amount of time.
00:52:43.740
Well, the first thing I tell them is don't take Ozempic. Okay. And the reason is there was a
00:52:48.780
recent study that came out that showed that one of the big issues there is that you're not losing
00:52:53.220
just fat. You're losing a lot of muscle mass and bone density. A study just came out showing that.
00:52:59.160
And so there's a lot of people not realizing, okay, you're keeping the fat, but losing the muscle.
00:53:03.460
That's not good. Or it's about a 15% increase compared to if you're losing weight on your own.
00:53:09.000
So that's a big issue. Also, if you look up the hashtag Ozempic face, you'll see people's face
00:53:13.440
gets sunken in. It's because it causes something called gastroparesis where things don't move through
00:53:17.820
your digestive system as fast. So now you have nutrient malabsorption. So you're not absorbing
00:53:23.080
your vitamins. So people are getting that sunken in look. So that's the first thing. After that,
00:53:28.460
I would say focus on protein and fiber as much as you can. I'd recommend 30 to 50 grams of protein
00:53:35.040
per meal. For most women, I'd say it's going to be about 30 grams. In the morning, that could be a
00:53:40.960
smoothie with some collagen or plant protein, something like that. Maybe it's a half a cup of
00:53:45.520
berries, a little coconut milk. You like plant protein better than whey protein?
00:53:50.000
Well, in reality, the only protein we're typically missing in our diets would be a bone broth
00:53:54.900
protein or a collagen protein. That's going to be the healthiest by far.
00:53:59.000
Not pea protein. Because I've had it, I don't like how it tastes.
00:54:02.920
Yeah. So here's what I would say. If people really want to be as healthy as possible,
00:54:06.900
go out and buy bone broth protein or a multi-collagen protein. Because that's the type of
00:54:12.560
protein you're not getting the rest of the day. And it's the one that's going to actually have the
00:54:15.920
most anti-inflammatory healing benefits is bone broth protein and that. So do that. And then if you want
00:54:21.020
to add in, if somebody tolerates whey pretty well, then they could do that. If somebody tolerates
00:54:27.340
pea or rice, that's fine too. But I would say still aim for that 30 grams of protein a day
00:54:32.420
in the morning. And it could also be, it could be pastured eggs. It could be
00:54:36.980
chicken or turkey or beef sausage. I think all those things are fine. It's a whole nother topic. I don't
00:54:42.200
like pork, but we'll stay away from it. Okay. Okay. That's good to know.
00:54:44.540
And the reason is it's not from being under the law. It's more, they're the highest carrier of
00:54:51.180
parasites of any animal. Well, I thought about that recently that, you know, I don't believe
00:54:55.820
that we have to abide by Old Testament cleansing laws, but I'm like, there's probably a reason that
00:55:01.640
God had for it, right? And guess what the dirtiest, most unhealthy seafood is? It's shrimp. It's
00:55:09.140
shellfish. And so, yeah. And so, um, I would say get protein, um, protein, and then lots of fiber
00:55:17.040
via, I mean, berries are the best for fruit. So lots of berries and then vegetables. And if you can
00:55:22.820
really focus on doing a diet high in protein, high in fiber, people will tend to lose weight pretty
00:55:27.800
quickly doing lower. If you're going to do carbs more in the morning, less at night.
00:55:30.900
I was going to ask about that. Like, do you think, is there anything to going to bed hungry
00:55:36.180
that helps someone lose weight? Well, it's, it's, it's less about hunger. It's more about
00:55:41.760
giving your body time to digest before you lay down. Cause when you lay down, it's a lot harder
00:55:46.500
on your system. So you typically want three hours, earlier dinners are better. Um, and so if you eat
00:55:52.200
at six, go to bed around nine, something like that, it tends to be, you can tell I've got a four,
00:55:56.780
you know, three slash four year old right now, or almost four year old. And so it's like, I'm,
00:56:00.120
you know, sleeping with her right now. And my wife's sleeping with the four month old and
00:56:03.200
we're doing a little bit and I'm like, sleep is hard to come. But my point is, is I'm, I'm going
00:56:07.340
to bed at like 8 PM right now. So I'm loving it. Oh, okay. So you are, you're getting plenty of
00:56:12.240
sleep then. Okay. Well, good. Yeah. It's, it's not as restful through the night, but we're, I mean,
00:56:17.340
I'm in bed a long time. I'll say that. So, um, so yeah, if people want to lose weight again,
00:56:23.340
protein and fiber. And then the other thing would be movement. I mean, ideally it's weight training
00:56:27.980
followed by a little bit of interval training. So if three days a week, you went to the gym, did 30 minutes of
00:56:32.380
weights, 15 minutes of like a interval cardio. That's the ideal. If you can do those things
00:56:37.740
while also doing things you love, keeping stress low, but people will lose weight very quickly
00:56:41.920
if they do mostly meat, vegetables, berries, and then throw in some other real food along with that.
00:56:49.300
Okay. Last thing, if you had a microphone and everyone in the United States could listen to
00:56:55.240
you for 30 seconds and you had to give them like one health tip that you felt like would make the
00:57:01.380
biggest difference for everyone. What would you say?
00:57:05.560
You know, for me, this may surprise some people. I have been doing a practice. I call it my spiritual
00:57:09.440
triathlon every morning for about 20 years. And so what I do is I wake up in the morning and I go on
00:57:15.760
a walk. I listen to praise and worship music and I just thank God for how blessed I am. And so I do that
00:57:21.860
while I go on a 15 minute walk and I'm getting sunshine, I'm getting a walk. And most importantly,
00:57:26.340
I'm praising God and starting my mind right with that. I'll go inside, I'll read my Bible for a
00:57:31.320
period of time. And then after that, I'll spend some time in prayer. And for me, just the peace
00:57:37.020
that brings, the growth it brings, I think what it does for my entire day, I think is the most
00:57:41.860
important health practice that I have. Now, if there's just something secondary that people want
00:57:46.040
to know that's more sort of nutrition, health related, I would say just change breakfast.
00:57:53.340
I mean, people feel like, oh, I've got to, again, I've got a hot, you know, cold plunge. I've got to
00:57:58.200
infrared. I've got it. If you just change breakfast and you're getting started, that's one
00:58:03.140
third of your diet. That's actually a really, really momentous change. And so I would say try
00:58:07.900
and do something like a superfood smoothie, do a half a cup of berries, do 30 to 50 grams of protein,
00:58:13.100
do a little bit of like water, coconut milk or something else in there. And if you just change
00:58:18.380
that, that could radically change your life. And hey, if you couple those two together,
00:58:22.400
you know, sort of the philosophy, you win the morning, you win the day. I think it's a great
00:58:25.640
start to the day for people. That's good, man. There's a million more things that I could ask,
00:58:31.220
but we went through a lot today and you gave us a lot of insight. So thank you so much. Tell
00:58:35.860
everyone, you got a new book out, so tell everyone about your new book, where they can get that and how
00:58:41.140
they can follow you. Yeah. So I have a new book out. It's called Think This, Not That. I've been
00:58:45.840
teaching everyone how to eat this, not that for years. So the idea is think this, not that. And the
00:58:50.000
information in the book actually saved my life. We didn't, I didn't get into this, but two years
00:58:56.280
ago, I went in for, I injured my back, went in for a real simple procedure and using actually
00:59:04.280
natural form medicine called stem cell. And something happened during the procedure. A few months
00:59:09.420
later, I woke up, I couldn't walk and I didn't walk for a year. This time last year, I wasn't able
00:59:13.300
to walk. Wow. Yeah. For a full year. And, um, and so I wrote that entire book while I was on my back
00:59:20.080
and went through how I healed the mindset involved a number of things. And so the book's called Think
00:59:25.060
This, Not That. I just hit the New York Times bestseller list last week, which I'm excited about.
00:59:29.420
That's amazing. So yeah, people could get that on Amazon. And, um, and also I have a podcast,
00:59:33.700
which I'd love to have you on, uh, sometime. It's called the Dr. Josh Axe show. We cover a lot of
00:59:38.180
health, uh, topics specifically and some, you know, growth topics and, um, and then social media
00:59:44.160
handles just at Dr. Josh Axe on Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube. Yes. Thank you so much.
00:59:48.840
I really appreciate your wisdom. Awesome. Thanks for having me, Allie.
00:59:55.220
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