Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 987 ｜ Healing Breast Implant Illness, Hypothyroidism & Infertility ｜ Guest： Dr. Josh Axe

00:00:00.000 Why are so many women removing their breast implants? 1.00

00:00:04.620 How can we address infertility naturally? 1.00

00:00:08.240 What is birth control really doing for the body?

00:00:12.860 How is it affecting our immune system?

00:00:15.540 Is there a more natural fix for hypothyroidism?

00:00:20.160 We are talking about all of this and so much more on today's episode of Relatable.

00:00:25.080 We are speaking with Dr. Josh Axe.

00:00:28.420 He is a functional medicine doctor.

00:00:31.640 He's got so much insight for us on all of these things as well as on herbal medicine.

00:00:37.320 He is also going to give us his biggest piece of health advice to change your life.

00:00:43.760 You are going to learn so much from him.

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00:00:58.420 Dr. Axe, thanks so much for taking the time to join us.

00:01:09.840 Can you tell everyone who you are and what you do?

00:01:12.020 Yeah, I'm Dr. Josh Axe.

00:01:13.700 I'm the founder of Ancient Nutrition.

00:01:16.420 I am a functional medicine doctor and really focus on helping people use food as medicine,

00:01:21.180 also mindset medicine to heal.

00:01:22.520 And I have a wife, Chelsea Axe, and two daughters.

00:01:26.960 I've got a four-year-old and a four-month-old.

00:01:29.180 Aw, okay.

00:01:30.480 Functional medicine.

00:01:31.700 A lot of people have different ideas about functional medicine.

00:01:35.320 Whether they really know what it is or not, their impression might be that it's some woo-woo

00:01:41.700 witch doctor magic, and other people might have a better impression of what functional medicine is.

00:01:48.240 I'm someone who has a better impression in that I have positive thoughts about functional medicine,

00:01:55.160 but if I'm honest, I don't really know everything that it entails.

00:01:59.340 So can you describe that for us?

00:02:01.160 Yeah.

00:02:01.380 So the way that I would describe it is, when somebody goes to see a conventional medical

00:02:07.120 doctor, what they're trained to do is diagnose and treat with a chemical, with a drug and

00:02:13.540 medication.

00:02:14.660 And those have been created by the pharmaceutical industry.

00:02:17.920 So that's it.

00:02:19.800 And so when they go to school, there's zero nutrition training, zero lifestyle training.

00:02:23.680 There's none of that.

00:02:25.100 Functional medicine really focuses on, rather than prescribing a blood pressure pill for high

00:02:30.560 blood pressure, we're going to say, well, hey, let's give you some, let's try and get

00:02:34.760 more to the root cause.

00:02:36.020 And so why is your blood pressure high in the first place?

00:02:38.300 Okay, there's stress.

00:02:39.660 Okay, it looks like your diet is very high in sugar.

00:02:42.400 We've got some bad fats in your diet. 0.77

00:02:44.220 You're not moving much.

00:02:45.500 Okay, let's change all of that.

00:02:46.740 Let's really work on your lifestyle and your diet and maybe use some things like supplementation

00:02:51.560 in order to help you heal to get more of the root cause of disease.

00:02:54.740 And so, you know, another example of this is like if someone has high cholesterol, somebody

00:02:58.980 would typically, if they go to a conventional medical doctor, would get prescribed a statin

00:03:02.620 drug.

00:03:03.260 That statin drug is going to lower cholesterol.

00:03:07.520 The problem is it's also going to increase the risk of a heart attack in the future and

00:03:11.800 numerous other issues.

00:03:12.900 So functional medicine doctor is going to say, okay, we're going to go and get to the root

00:03:16.440 cause.

00:03:16.840 We're going to prescribe or recommend turmeric, magnesium, vitamin D, dietary changes.

00:03:24.140 We want you to start walking every single day, things like that in order to heal.

00:03:27.240 And, you know, when I ran my practice, it was predominantly women, like a lot of hypothyroidism, 1.00

00:03:33.360 a lot of people with autoimmune disease.

00:03:35.400 And so the idea there is really we want to get to the root cause and then typically use

00:03:39.000 food, supplementation, and natural treatments to help somebody heal.

00:03:42.580 You know, it's interesting because I haven't had a whole lot of interaction with doctors.

00:03:48.040 I mean, I've been relatively healthy, but I do have hypothyroid.

00:03:51.460 And it's interesting that when you talk to your standard endocrinologist, they're nice

00:03:55.940 enough people, they say that they want to help you.

00:03:58.300 When you ask them, okay, but what caused this?

00:04:01.460 And I know there may be different answers based on Hashimoto's or different kinds of

00:04:04.840 hypothyroidism.

00:04:05.940 And is there anything that I can do in my life to help this?

00:04:09.920 The answer is there's no root cause and there's nothing that you can do except take Synthroid,

00:04:15.840 which I have because, you know, I want the right thyroid levels and I've had to have that

00:04:20.980 in order to get pregnant, but still I find myself thinking almost every day, I really

00:04:26.440 wish I didn't have to rely on this medication.

00:04:29.400 I'm thankful for medication when it's needed, but I wish someone would just tell me at least

00:04:35.080 if there's something I can do to supplement thyroid health and my doctors say, nope, there's

00:04:40.600 nothing that you can do to help yourself.

00:04:42.320 Well, let me tell you.

00:04:43.140 Okay.

00:04:43.660 Yes.

00:04:44.060 I'm sure there's a lot of people out here who want this information too.

00:04:46.760 Yeah.

00:04:47.240 You know, hypothyroidism, I think I saw something recently that 60% of women have hypothyroidism

00:04:52.140 and they don't know it.

00:04:53.200 So it's incredibly prevalent.

00:04:55.880 It could be, you know, biggest signs, fatigue, thinning hair, could be fertility.

00:05:00.000 I mean, there's a number of, there's a number of cold body temperature.

00:05:02.980 So when you look at any sort of ancient form of medicine, the idea there of what's really

00:05:08.140 causing it, it actually tends to start more in your adrenal glands.

00:05:11.280 And so imagine your adrenals as a battery.

00:05:13.240 If you turn your phone on, you know, what's it at?

00:05:15.440 Is it 80%, 40% when that battery gets too low and your adrenals get, are in too much

00:05:20.720 of a fight or flight response all the time.

00:05:22.800 And there's a lot of things that can do that.

00:05:24.680 Lack of quality sleep, being on, you know, devices all the time with blue light.

00:05:30.880 There's numerous things that can start to sort of lower that battery.

00:05:33.840 So we want to really build the battery up in Chinese medicine.

00:05:36.300 They would call that chi in Western medicine.

00:05:39.220 They would call that ATP or cellular energy.

00:05:41.560 So the health of our mitochondria.

00:05:43.720 And so what you really want to be able to do is increase that.

00:05:47.320 And so of course, lowering stress helps, but there are herbs that really help that.

00:05:50.840 Ashwagandha is the primary herb, has the most clinical literature on improving symptoms

00:05:55.640 of both hypothyroidism and Hashimoto's.

00:05:58.900 There's a few other things that do similar things.

00:06:00.880 Cordyceps mushrooms, ginseng will also help.

00:06:04.140 So those definitely help.

00:06:06.140 In addition, I would say there are certain herbs that you want to, you really want to

00:06:10.120 work on warming up your body.

00:06:11.420 Again, think about most women with hypothyroid are cold, like they tend to get colder extremities. 0.69

00:06:16.620 And so to warm up the body, herbs like cinnamon and ginger on a regular basis, doing more soups

00:06:21.660 and warming foods, like there's a misconception.

00:06:24.040 A lot of times people think, and you'd be a prime example of this to where you're really

00:06:29.280 conscious, you want to be healthy.

00:06:30.960 And so you might do something like a salad, but salads are good for maybe anti-cancer properties,

00:06:38.920 cleansing the liver, but it's actually not as good for hypothyroid because raw vegetables

00:06:43.520 are more cooling to the body.

00:06:45.000 We really need to warm the body up.

00:06:46.900 And so in order to do that, again, soups and stews and cinnamon and ginger and things that

00:06:51.700 start to warm the body internally, we'll start to help that.

00:06:54.920 So anyways, there's just a few ideas.

00:06:57.320 Yeah, that's interesting.

00:06:57.700 And that's definitely one thing I don't know a lot about is herbal medicine.

00:07:01.800 And I'll just be honest, and maybe I reflect the attitudes of some people in the audience.

00:07:07.140 When I hear herbal medicine and when I hear Chinese medicine, I do start to think of, and

00:07:12.880 I'm not really sure why, like new age mysticism type stuff.

00:07:17.940 So dispel that kind of mentality for us.

00:07:21.060 Yeah.

00:07:21.260 By the way, I was one of those people.

00:07:23.000 Yeah.

00:07:23.280 You know, I grew up in a home where my, you know, I had one of these moms, amazing Christian 1.00

00:07:26.380 mom, but everything was the devil.

00:07:27.820 Everything that wasn't, you know, you read about in the Bible.

00:07:30.500 Now, there are actually quite a few herbs that are talked about in the Bible.

00:07:33.500 But so, and here's the other thing that people don't realize.

00:07:36.740 If people are okay with pharmaceuticals, they should be absolutely way more okay with herbs.

00:07:41.500 I mean, probably 80%.

00:07:44.780 Now, currently it's about 33% of pharmaceuticals are just directly synthetic compounds from herbs.

00:07:51.000 So when you're looking at an herb, metformin, that's from lilac.

00:07:54.980 I mean, it's an aspirin, that's from birch.

00:07:58.000 Yeah, right.

00:07:58.680 So all medications are taken almost from herbals.

00:08:03.340 And so I do think that because, and here's why this happened.

00:08:06.800 A lot of Chinese medicine, the basis is off of something called Taoism.

00:08:10.660 And Taoism is really this idea of everything is interrelated.

00:08:15.000 You hear things like yin and yang.

00:08:16.140 But really, these things are talked about in Genesis, in a way, in terms of, you know,

00:08:21.220 in the beginning was, you know, night and day and earth and sky and man and woman.

00:08:25.900 I mean, and got work and rest.

00:08:27.960 And so they just use different terminology that sounds different to us.

00:08:31.820 All that being said, you know, herbs are things that, you know, God created them to grow,

00:08:36.520 I believe, for us to use as medicine.

00:08:38.660 And there's way less side effects.

00:08:40.520 I mean, they work more naturally with our own system.

00:08:42.300 And so that's a viewpoint I think a lot of people have.

00:08:46.680 But what I've seen is the past 15 years, it's really changed a lot.

00:08:50.180 I've seen a lot more Christians start to, as they've understood and read about herbs and

00:08:54.980 what they do, they start understanding that, oh, these are things that God put here that

00:08:59.500 are much more natural.

00:09:00.460 I believe much more, I don't want to say, I'll just say this.

00:09:06.480 You know, there's a Bible verse that reminds me of this.

00:09:08.660 God, you know, God will bring blessing and it'll add no trouble to it.

00:09:11.360 You know, there's a proverb that says that essentially.

00:09:14.240 And there's not a single medication without a side effect.

00:09:17.100 Not a single one.

00:09:19.320 Birth control depletes your body of a load of nutrients.

00:09:22.340 A baby aspirin is the fifth, NSAIDs are the 15th leading killer in the country today.

00:09:29.060 The third leading killer in all of the Western world today are the adverse side effects of

00:09:34.860 our medical system.

00:09:36.540 And so, anyways, that's a little bit of my thoughts on it.

00:09:40.200 But I believe, you know, we're using it in our food.

00:09:41.860 I mean, turmeric has been used in our food or dill or parsley or ginger or garlic for years.

00:09:46.980 So we're just doing a little bit of higher doses of those most of the time.

00:09:50.260 Yeah.

00:09:50.600 And would you say that there is ever a place for pharmaceutical drugs?

00:09:54.680 Absolutely.

00:09:55.460 A hundred percent.

00:09:56.080 Here's how I think about this.

00:09:58.020 I believe that most pharmaceuticals should be used for a much shorter period of time than they

00:10:02.740 are.

00:10:03.140 For instance, if somebody goes in with clinical depression, they go into their physician,

00:10:07.300 their doctor might say, you're going to be on this drug, and they may plan to keep them

00:10:10.640 on it the rest of their life.

00:10:12.180 That's not intentionally, if you go back and read the founding of, you know, the creation

00:10:16.160 of these drugs, it was supposed to be for a short period of time, maybe three months,

00:10:20.700 and work to get them off it because there are side effects.

00:10:23.260 So here's what I think this should look like.

00:10:25.040 Whether it's hypothyroidism or autoimmune disease or any condition, somebody goes into a doctor.

00:10:29.740 I believe functional medicine doctors really should be more of the primary care.

00:10:33.280 They're going in.

00:10:33.920 The first thing you're doing is saying, let's change your diet.

00:10:36.560 Let's change your lifestyle.

00:10:38.000 Let's lower the stress.

00:10:39.280 Let's try some vitamins and herbs and things like that.

00:10:42.500 Okay.

00:10:42.840 If we exhaust that and it doesn't work, okay, now let's work on getting you on a medication

00:10:47.980 for a period of time.

00:10:49.020 At the same time, trying to get you off it over time.

00:10:59.740 And you mentioned how doctors or how medical students are being trained in these medical

00:11:11.560 schools.

00:11:12.080 And we've talked about this before, that basically you're just kind of memorizing diagnoses and

00:11:18.540 then what medication or treatment you are supposed to apply to a particular diagnosis.

00:11:24.040 And they are very often not taught, one, how the body is connected.

00:11:29.680 Maybe they're going into a certain specialty and so they're only focusing on that.

00:11:33.940 They have to tap another specialist when they're actually practicing medicine to help them understand

00:11:38.680 this other concept.

00:11:39.840 But really how you're describing functional medicine is not only understanding the root

00:11:44.960 causes and the more natural routes to take, but also how everything is potentially connected

00:11:50.440 in the body so that you're not just going to a functional medicine doctor for your brain

00:11:56.080 and then another one for your gut.

00:11:57.920 But the functional medicine doctor knows how these things work together, right?

00:12:02.640 Absolutely.

00:12:03.320 So here's a prime example of this, Hashimoto's thyroiditis.

00:12:06.840 Okay.

00:12:07.420 Most doctors would try and treat it like it's a thyroid issue. 0.87

00:12:10.940 Now, some may use something to suppress the immune system and treat it like an autoimmune

00:12:14.720 disease, but in reality, it's starting in the gut with something called intestinal permeability

00:12:19.720 or leaky gut.

00:12:21.000 So if a doctor is really trying to get at the root cause, they're looking at how one system

00:12:26.940 affects the other.

00:12:27.520 For instance, we know anger, the emotion affects the liver, which then affects your heart and

00:12:33.420 then increases your blood pressure.

00:12:35.380 But again, most doctors, you're right, they look at the body in one system.

00:12:40.840 They're trained in and ignore all the rest.

00:12:42.580 And if they can change this one symptom, they're really not paying attention to all the other

00:12:46.220 side effects and damage they're doing throughout, you know, throughout the rest of the body.

00:12:49.760 I mean, they're, again, you can ask me, what was any medication?

00:12:52.240 I can be like, well, this is the side effect.

00:12:53.820 And here's the crazy part.

00:12:55.400 Most people think that medications have all of the side effects listed on the label.

00:13:00.580 They don't.

00:13:02.760 Every medication depletes the body of different types of nutrients.

00:13:05.480 If you go and look at metformin for diabetes, does it say on there, depletes your body of

00:13:10.060 coenzyme Q10 and vitamin B12?

00:13:12.060 It doesn't.

00:13:13.200 So there's a lot of people having side effects that they don't realize that they're having

00:13:16.380 causing other issues in their body.

00:13:18.960 Yeah.

00:13:19.440 Wow.

00:13:20.000 And it seems like it's such a responsibility and a big burden for those of us who didn't

00:13:25.000 go to medical school.

00:13:25.960 We don't have a medical background to try to understand all that because you're describing

00:13:30.240 a side effect that even if a doctor told me it causes this, I'd be like, well, okay,

00:13:35.440 I have no idea what that means.

00:13:37.320 And if this doctor is telling me, well, it doesn't really matter what side effects that

00:13:42.440 you'll get from this medication, you have to take it, then I'm thinking they know best.

00:13:46.220 Well, and think about it like this at an even more expansive level.

00:13:49.240 Think about COVID and Dr. Fauci, the CDC, those recommendations.

00:13:54.200 It's like, okay, well, we're going to have everybody wear masks and stand six feet apart

00:13:59.320 and go on lockdowns and get people on ventilators and all these things.

00:14:06.600 Okay, well, you may be treating this, what you believe is a good treatment for viral infection.

00:14:13.660 What are the consequences?

00:14:15.780 Alcoholism, more drug abuse, depression, loneliness.

00:14:18.780 In fact, a study came out recently showing that loneliness, if you're feeling extreme loneliness,

00:14:24.140 it's the equivalent of smoking 15 cigarettes a day.

00:14:27.060 So there are really major side effects, and you know this, and this is one of the reasons

00:14:30.960 why I respect you so much as a political commentator and your wisdom is you understand trade-offs.

00:14:36.820 That's one of the things that doesn't happen in the medical profession is they're not aware

00:14:40.420 of, okay, you can treat this, but then what are all the repercussions that are happening

00:14:44.920 in the body?

00:14:46.500 And the pharmaceutical companies are, of course, financially incentivized not to talk about

00:14:51.880 those trade-offs.

00:14:53.040 Yes.

00:14:53.600 And I mean, the whole system that the pharmaceutical companies are actually marketing directly to

00:14:59.680 the consumer.

00:15:00.780 It's like, and in those commercials that they have, even though they have the litany of side

00:15:05.960 effects that they read at the very end, all of the people look like their life has been

00:15:11.040 changed, no more psoriasis or whatever it is because of this drug.

00:15:14.260 Then you go to the doctor, the doctor may even be financially incentivized to say, yes, let's

00:15:20.620 put you on that.

00:15:22.000 It's a crazy system that we have here in the United States that the burden is really on

00:15:26.860 the patient, but at the same time, the burden is on the patient to bring to our doctor, okay,

00:15:32.500 we want to be on this medication sometimes.

00:15:34.360 But then if we ask questions about the trade-offs, about the side effects, we're kind of made

00:15:40.460 to feel stupid.

00:15:41.480 Yeah.

00:15:41.680 Like we have no idea what we're talking about.

00:15:44.040 So like, which one is it?

00:15:45.700 We're being marketed to directly by the pharmaceutical companies, but if we question the pharmaceutical

00:15:50.600 companies to our doctor, then we're told to shut up.

00:15:53.020 Yeah.

00:15:53.240 It's really hard to be a patient.

00:15:55.420 It's the exact opposite of what it should be.

00:15:57.200 My entire career has been focused on, I want to help the person, the patient, I want to help

00:16:03.220 them know everything they can about their body and how to heal themselves.

00:16:06.060 I'm not trying to be the healer.

00:16:07.360 Like your body, God's the healer.

00:16:08.540 I'm not trying to be that person for you versus there's a lot of doctors with a God

00:16:12.240 complex out there.

00:16:14.240 It's pretty prevalent.

00:16:15.920 Yeah.

00:16:16.400 When COVID was going on and we were at the thick of it, with the background and the expertise

00:16:21.100 that you had, I mean, what were you thinking when you were watching all of this unfold?

00:16:26.100 Well, one, I was, I was really, so, so I came out, let me give you an example.

00:16:33.040 I don't know if you know Gabe and Rebecca Lyons.

00:16:34.840 They're good friends of mine.

00:16:35.920 They had me on their podcast.

00:16:37.620 And so I went and did a podcast and I shared, listen, there are a lot of different types

00:16:42.040 of viral infections.

00:16:43.020 Okay.

00:16:43.400 And certain ones you treat differently, but generally there are principles about if you

00:16:47.860 have a viral infection of things you need to do.

00:16:49.820 And the philosophy that I have that's very different than the conventional medical system

00:16:53.600 is, is that, uh, I don't try and treat disease.

00:16:57.040 I didn't try and strengthen your own body.

00:16:59.620 So then your body can fight the disease.

00:17:01.480 Cause if your own immune system is strong, your body will eliminate the disease on its

00:17:06.260 own.

00:17:07.120 That's, that's the thing.

00:17:07.980 It's like, why does one person get sick in the office and the other person doesn't?

00:17:11.220 Right.

00:17:11.660 So, so that's, it's, it's part of that.

00:17:14.040 And so when this was going on, I went and I went through recommendations.

00:17:17.000 I said, we need to do high dose vitamin D, zinc, vitamin C.

00:17:21.040 People need to get outside and walk every single day.

00:17:23.500 Started going through this whole protocol in, uh, ancient forms of medicine.

00:17:28.260 Uh, you would chicken soup.

00:17:29.980 Okay.

00:17:30.240 Foods that are light yellow and white tend to be the ones that are the most immune boosting.

00:17:33.740 So think garlic, onions, ginger, chicken bone broth, miso.

00:17:39.460 Those are all things that are really strengthening.

00:17:40.840 So I recommended those foods.

00:17:42.640 And then I actually had a Christian magazine go and write like a hit piece on me saying

00:17:47.580 Dr.

00:17:48.140 Axe is unscientific.

00:17:49.960 And so it's just, it's just wild to me.

00:17:52.220 So I, I knew that this, I generally knew what was going to start to happen, um, in terms

00:17:57.760 of all the side effects when you isolate people and people get less time outdoors.

00:18:01.220 And, but it was, the thing was, it was like, even though I was saying certain things at

00:18:05.800 the time, it's like, I tried to walk up to the edge on platforms like YouTube, but not

00:18:10.280 try and overstep because it's like, well, you know, people didn't want to be fully deplatformed.

00:18:14.800 I still tried to push it as far as I could, but it was, it was sort of like, I want to

00:18:19.340 lead the horse to water, but not make the people drink in terms of how, how I tried to communicate.

00:18:23.680 I think we all felt like that.

00:18:25.560 And of course, I'm not a health expert, but when I did have doctors on who were talking

00:18:29.420 about, I don't know, we might need to slow our roll when it comes to ventilators, remdesivir,

00:18:33.860 maybe we should look at ivermectin.

00:18:36.540 We had to put a lot of it behind the paywall because we knew that, okay, if we get taken

00:18:43.480 off YouTube because of this message, then we can't convey any of the other important messages

00:18:49.260 that are out there. So a lot of people had to thread that needle and walk that line. And it

00:18:54.260 was really tough watching. I mean, even someone just from a common sense perspective, okay,

00:18:59.300 they're encouraging things that could actually encourage and exacerbate something like

00:19:04.280 obesity. And we know that obesity makes COVID a lot more dangerous and we're not even allowed

00:19:12.600 to question that.

00:19:13.540 Well, that's one of the things I mentioned when I was doing this, this, this talk is, is that

00:19:16.900 94% of people that died of COVID was due to comorbidity. It was actually, it was, it was

00:19:22.140 more due to the condition they had, not COVID itself.

00:19:25.700 Right.

00:19:26.300 Yeah.

00:19:26.660 Right. And you weren't really supposed to talk about that.

00:19:29.860 No, no.

00:19:30.140 Yeah. It's crazy.

00:19:31.100 Let's go back to something that you mentioned, birth control. This is a hot topic right now. We've

00:19:49.200 talked about it a few times on my podcast. Of course, the ethics behind it from pro-life

00:19:53.880 position and all of that, but I'm interested in what you said about birth control depleting the

00:20:00.700 body of certain things that it needs. What do you mean by that?

00:20:05.520 Well, first off, I want to say, this is a really important issue because 65% of women between the

00:20:10.500 ages of 15 and 49 are on birth control. So it is a, it is a lot of women. And when you look at 0.99

00:20:17.140 birth control, what it does in terms of specifically increasing estrogen, that, that acts like a

00:20:25.500 fertilizer as well for, but the biggest symptom I had that women have when they, when I, when I see 1.00

00:20:30.880 them after they are getting off birth control is candida and yeast overgrowth. They start to get

00:20:35.700 really major GI issues as well because of what's happening there with the hormone balance, hormone

00:20:40.180 imbalance of estrogen. The other thing is, so the nutrients that are depleted, every B vitamin,

00:20:45.360 you can list off every B1, B2, B3, B6, B9, which is folate, and then methylcobalamin, which is,

00:20:51.960 which is B12. So all, every single one of those is depleted. Part of those are depleted because

00:20:56.980 what birth control does is it starts to deplete good bacteria in the gut and increase bad bacteria.

00:21:03.120 There's a study out of Stanford that found that when you decrease your good bacteria in your gut

00:21:09.380 and increase bad, your B vitamin absorption drops by over 50%. So, so, so really there's a lot of B

00:21:16.100 vitamins being decreased. Vitamin C is also decreased zinc, which is important for immune function. And then

00:21:21.840 of course, probiotics are, are, are wiped out. So, so, so those are some of the big side effects that

00:21:27.680 are not listed on the label that women don't realize they're having. There was another study that came

00:21:31.740 out recently as well that showed that you, if you take birth control for more than five years,

00:21:37.400 it triples your risk of certain types of autoimmune disease, specifically inflammatory bowel disease

00:21:45.320 and Sjogren's disease. And so there's, some of this is new research that people haven't even heard

00:21:50.020 before, but the reality is, is that if people are on birth control, there are major side effects.

00:21:55.500 It's increasing your risk of autoimmune disease. So basically the big thing it's doing, it's

00:21:59.380 weakening, weakening your immune system and causing nutritional deficiencies and B vitamin

00:22:05.240 deficiencies are really affect numerous organs. I mean, your thyroid, especially in your adrenal

00:22:12.440 glands. And so again, these are, these are facts. A lot of people don't, don't know.

00:22:16.100 Yeah. It's interesting. Of course, I'm thinking I'm like mapping together my own health issues. And I

00:22:21.080 was put on birth control in high school. Like a lot of my friends were, who were not, we were not

00:22:26.120 sexually active, but because it was like, okay, you're 17 years old and you, your hormones are still

00:22:33.940 working themselves out. And so like your period is a little bit wonky or something. And the doctor

00:22:39.300 says, well, let's just put you on birth control. Now we always talk about, we look back and we're 0.99

00:22:43.540 like, did she just assume that we actually were all sexually active and she was trying to protect us

00:22:48.800 or whatever, but she kind of put us all on Yaz, which now you see those commercials, like where you

00:22:53.500 put on Yaz, if you have XYZ symptom, you could be, you know, get some compensation or something,

00:22:58.940 which is crazy. And then it's, but I look back and it's interesting because I just thought,

00:23:03.940 okay, well, this is just what I need. And of course she says, it'll help your acne. It'll

00:23:08.340 help you just feel better in general. I don't even know. But then it wasn't too long after that,

00:23:13.740 a couple of years later that I was out of nowhere as like 19 diagnosed with hypothyroid. She didn't

00:23:19.160 say it was Hashimoto's. And then another thing, I think a couple of years later, I was 21 years old

00:23:24.300 when I got shingles. And then for some reason, after I got shingles, I don't even know what it was,

00:23:31.120 but I just was like, I'm not going to do birth control anymore. I'm getting off birth control.

00:23:35.860 And I did. And I was totally fine. I had, I mean, I was completely, my cycle was totally regular.

00:23:40.980 I didn't have acne. I didn't have any problems. I did not need to be on birth control.

00:23:46.160 And I've never gotten that sick again. Not that I've never gotten sick,

00:23:49.920 but shingles as a 21 year old, it's crazy.

00:23:52.720 Well, the thing about what I just mentioned there, what birth control affects,

00:23:55.400 it affects your immune system, weakens that, and it affects B vitamins, specifically thiamine and

00:24:01.780 some of the others that affect your, really, really run your thyroid. So when you're on it,

00:24:06.020 you tend to not have as many symptoms. When you get off, that's when you're going to start having

00:24:08.780 the symptoms that you had. One thing that I think would help a lot of women is if they've ever taken

00:24:12.800 birth control, getting, you can either get tested for how well your body, something called

00:24:17.800 methylation, how well your body is methylating, but certain people don't methylate very well.

00:24:23.520 And so their body isn't utilizing and converting B vitamins correctly. And so a lot of women who 1.00

00:24:29.060 have your exact same experience can get on methylated B vitamins and it can really, really help

00:24:35.040 some of those symptoms of thyroid issues. Interesting. Speaking of a disease or an illness

00:24:41.920 that is specifically kind of affecting women is breast plant illness, which is a new thing for me that 0.99

00:24:52.000 I've heard of women getting their breast implants removed because it was causing all kinds of like 1.00

00:24:59.780 flu-like symptoms. Can you tell us like what is going on there?

00:25:04.820 Yeah. So, well, let's start off with what you're putting in your body. You're putting in silicone,

00:25:08.820 which is sort of a mix, a mixture between rubber meets plastic. Okay. It's fossil fuels or certain

00:25:14.200 chemicals there that, that, that make up an implant. And so, you know, what, what, what they've done is

00:25:19.980 they've done studies where they've said, well, it's not really leaching. Well, they've done other

00:25:23.980 studies to show, well, if you put it in vinegar or alcohol or certain things, well, it does start

00:25:27.440 to leach. And so I think the leaching of the implant, the chemicals there is very minor, but it

00:25:33.800 does have, but think about minor leaching over 10, 20, 30 years, what starts to happen in the body.

00:25:40.380 The other thing is if there's a rupture, I mean, there's a tremendous, it's like a flood of,

00:25:44.820 of chemicals being released in your system. And there was a recent study that came out. So I mentioned

00:25:49.320 birth control triples your increase of certain autoimmune diseases. Well, breast implants, 0.78

00:25:54.900 new study came out showing that it increases your risk of autoimmune disease by six to eight times.

00:26:00.500 And so some of the biggest symptoms of breast implant illness could be rashes, joint pain,

00:26:08.780 hormonal changes, thinning hair. I mean, there's, there's a number of them, but it's, it's, it's,

00:26:13.600 really an issue. Like I, and this has been a personal thing for me. Like my mother-in-law had hers

00:26:17.360 removed. She just turned 60 and about five years ago, she had hers removed and walked her through

00:26:22.560 the process of detoxing and healing. Good friend of mine, Natalie Jill. I mean, I, I probably know

00:26:27.040 30 people that have had their implants removed. There's a lot of people and all of them said

00:26:30.620 afterwards, I feel better. I noticed the difference. Here's the other thing that's significant

00:26:33.760 is, is that when women have had their implants removed and they've had any symptom at all,

00:26:38.720 75% of the time within one year, all of their symptoms are gone.

00:26:42.120 Wow. So it's, it's, there's, there's definitely connection. And the thing that really saddens

00:26:46.320 me is a lot of these women go into their doctors and they say, it's all in your head. Hey, it's

00:26:50.500 not real. And the reality is there are, there might not be a double blind study on this, but

00:26:56.520 there are millions of individual, or at least let me just say this, at least tens of thousands

00:27:00.680 of individual case studies where women are saying, no, this, you know, really affected my

00:27:04.880 health in a negative way. Yeah. Okay. We're kind of jumping around here. Cause I'm kind of

00:27:09.120 going back to the birth control conversation a little bit and, but we're kind of staying

00:27:14.320 in the realm of women, but I guess this affects men too. When we're talking about fertility rates

00:27:21.300 and of course I see it most in women who are struggling to have like a normal cycle, they've 0.99

00:27:27.920 got hormonal issues, they've got endocrine problems, autoimmune problems, and they're going

00:27:34.280 to the fertility specialist and they're hearing IVF is your only option. There's no root cause

00:27:40.020 of this. You're just one of those weird cases that you can't have kids. They want a kid.

00:27:45.060 They go through with the IVF, but their health problems are never really addressed. And very

00:27:49.860 often, even after spending hundreds of thousands of dollars in IVF, they can't have healthy pregnancies

00:27:54.900 because there's something going on with their bodies that's not being addressed. So like,

00:27:59.720 what have you seen in this rise in infertility, number one, and what do you think about how we

00:28:06.240 can be addressing this better? Yeah. Yeah. This is something I have a lot of firsthand

00:28:09.600 experience with and helping women who were struggling with infertility get pregnant. I mean,

00:28:13.460 I could have a load of them call in or share their stories of what we did that there's two primary

00:28:18.680 issues here. So one thing to know is one in six women struggle with infertility. That's a pretty high 0.94

00:28:24.280 rate. And one in four pregnancies are miscarried or close to that. So I mean, this is really a

00:28:30.580 significant issue. So when we look at the main cause, it really has to do with the reproductive

00:28:36.020 organs and the adrenals, the relationship there. And it's sort of what I mentioned earlier, even

00:28:40.040 connection to the thyroid, is that your battery is very low and we need to start to build up the

00:28:45.020 battery there. And so there are certain things that do that. One is a healthy diet. Getting a diet

00:28:50.260 that's very nutrient dense, you especially need B vitamins and selenium, zinc, magnesium are some of

00:28:56.740 the most important. And so I would say eating a diet rich in wild organic meat, fruit like berries

00:29:03.300 specifically would be good. Rice has some unique nutrients that are good for that. And then I would

00:29:08.280 also say vegetables. And so that really should be the basis of the diet. But we really want to

00:29:13.580 strengthen up the adrenal glands. That's really the idea there. There are a category of herbs called

00:29:17.640 adaptogens that tend to be the most beneficial for that. Ashwagandha is one of those. And so

00:29:23.320 especially if a woman has hypothyroid and infertility, that's probably the top herb that 1.00

00:29:28.200 would be recommended. And then there's others. I mentioned cordyceps, donquoise and other, but

00:29:34.220 there's a lot of adaptogens. Reishi mushroom, those would all be helpful. Methylated B vitamins,

00:29:40.060 again, I would say B vitamins and adaptogens. Those are the two categories of things that women would 1.00

00:29:44.860 need the most to support getting fertile. Now there's a second part, and this is especially

00:29:49.340 associated with miscarriage, where conceiving is more adrenal reproductive. Carrying is more

00:29:56.240 connected to the pancreas and insulin levels. So if insulin gets high and your blood sugar gets too

00:30:01.180 high, that really has been linked to in studies to miscarriage. And so with that, we want to stop

00:30:07.960 over-consuming sugar and refined carbohydrates in those foods. That will cause issues. Exercise can help

00:30:12.800 with that as well. Certain minerals, there's really a unique micromineral called chromium

00:30:19.180 picolinate that's been shown to help. Cinnamon and fenugreek are two herbs that also help. So those

00:30:24.580 are some things that would help. Now, this is me stepping more into the ancient medicine that I know

00:30:28.580 some people maybe have a little bit of skepticism about. But if we're getting into more of sort of the

00:30:34.500 ideology around it, is that conceiving is really related to going deep and just having peace in your

00:30:42.720 life. Like you have peace, you have purpose. Here's an example of this. People, once they retire,

00:30:51.420 if they don't find something after retiring to live for, like a mission, they die early. It takes

00:30:56.100 years off their life. So we know someone having a purpose is actually uniquely tied to longevity and

00:31:02.780 health of your organs. So if a woman feels like, hey, I've got a purpose and I'm also at peace in my

00:31:08.580 life, that according to these ancient forms of medicine actually helps with fertility. Now,

00:31:13.640 there's an emotion that actually affects carrying a child and that is worry. If somebody has a lot

00:31:18.360 of worry and constantly worrying about everything, obsessing about things, never turns it off,

00:31:22.900 that will affect the pancreas. And I've seen this in people. If anyone's ever worn a continuous blood

00:31:27.700 glucose monitor, you can wear those on your arm, shows your blood sugar levels all the time.

00:31:31.660 You know, if you're even driving a car, it goes up. Any form of stress rises it. So the more you can

00:31:36.240 just balance blood sugar, the way to do that with diet is meat, vegetables, or pretty much it's

00:31:42.740 protein, fat, and fiber. Get protein, fat, and fiber, cut the sugar. That'll help a lot.

00:31:48.240 You know, I know this is kind of getting a little personal here, but we're talking about like

00:32:05.240 conception and pregnancy. And I am very, very grateful that we've been able to be pregnant

00:32:10.760 and have healthy pregnancies three times. I do not take that for granted, but we didn't get pregnant

00:32:16.120 right away. And I just assumed that that's what would happen. As soon as you start trying,

00:32:21.480 that's, you know, the euphemism that we can use. I just thought it would happen. I mean,

00:32:25.300 both of us are relatively healthy. Sure, I have hypothyroid, but it was well managed. And so,

00:32:30.900 but it didn't happen right away. Actually, all three times, it took us four months. I don't really

00:32:36.600 know why, but I do know the only thing I can think of is really there was kind of, there's always

00:32:42.420 like a mental shift for me around like three or four months. Before that, I'm stressed. I'm stressed

00:32:48.080 out thinking about it and tracking all the different things. And I've got the app. And then

00:32:52.520 for whatever reason, around three, four months, I'm like, you know what? If it happens, it happens.

00:32:59.280 And so it's, I just kind of got to let go of it. And then it's always around that time. And I'm not

00:33:06.000 trying to say out there that that's the exact formula that's going to happen for you. But it seems like

00:33:11.720 my friends have had the same experience. And you're like, okay, we're just having fun. It's

00:33:16.340 fine. I'm not going to worry too much about it. That does seem to be, at least for some people,

00:33:22.460 something that helps. Well, you know how many women I've heard say this? I got pregnant when 1.00

00:33:26.440 I stopped trying. Yes, right. Exactly. And so I think that does speak to what you're saying. And

00:33:32.200 there's a biblical aspect of that too, of just not worrying and not being anxious. And when God tells

00:33:38.800 us over and over again throughout scripture, do not fear, do not be anxious about anything.

00:33:43.600 Really? Anything? Anything. Do not worry. Rejoice in everything, even in the difficulties that,

00:33:51.180 of course, there's spiritual health to that. But we have to also think that the God who made our

00:33:55.060 bodies knows that that is physically good for us too. Yeah. Well, one thing a lot of people I don't

00:33:59.920 think realize is that different emotions affect different organ systems. So we know, for instance,

00:34:06.560 high blood pressure is really tied more to anxiousness. And so if you get anxious, your

00:34:10.120 blood pressure will start to rise. Fear, most people know this one as well, that affects the

00:34:15.660 adrenals. Your body starts producing more cortisol and stress hormones. Worry, stomach, think about if

00:34:21.500 somebody was worrying over a test or exam, let's say, oh, my stomach is like tied knots. And then the

00:34:26.980 other one would be anger that affects the liver and gallbladder and lymphatic system. And then grief.

00:34:31.580 You know, I had a patient once who she, and this happens quite frequently, got a divorce and just

00:34:39.960 was grieving about it for years. And then she developed autoimmune disease. But grief is really

00:34:44.480 tied to your immune system. If you grieve, it can cause a cough, a cold. Basically, it's not letting

00:34:49.340 go of the past, able to move forward. So there are, I mean, it's amazing to think how deeply tied

00:34:56.500 our emotional and spiritual well-being is to our physical health.

00:34:59.460 Yeah. Okay. I've got a question for you on that. I have heard, this is another recent discovery of

00:35:06.400 mine, that there are different theories about how we get sick. Terrain theory versus germ theory,

00:35:16.960 which, okay, this is just my amateur thinking. My amateur thinking is that it's both. I do think

00:35:23.400 when you're anxious, when you're worried, when you're sad, that of course suppresses your immune

00:35:26.820 system. Your body is using energy in a different way. I know that's true for me. But at the same

00:35:33.380 time, also, I have gotten viruses. Things are clearly contagious to me. And germs do seem to

00:35:42.700 cause illness. Maybe I'm not understanding it correctly. I don't know. But it seems like it

00:35:47.020 wouldn't be both and. What do you think?

00:35:48.400 You're understanding it.

00:35:49.120 Right. I mean, it wouldn't be either.

00:35:50.060 You're exactly, you're understanding exactly right. It's, it's, it's both. It's Bechamp's

00:35:55.660 theory. The terrain theory is the primary.

00:35:57.480 See, I haven't heard of this.

00:35:58.780 Okay. Yeah, the terrain.

00:35:59.580 Well, I haven't heard of Bechamp's. I've only heard of.

00:36:02.200 Oh, he's the person who coined the term.

00:36:03.960 Okay. I didn't even know that.

00:36:05.260 Terrain theory. Where Louis Pasteur was germ theory.

00:36:08.020 Okay. Gotcha. Gotcha.

00:36:09.820 And so what happens is, if your immune system is strong, if you've got zinc, if you have vitamin D,

00:36:15.320 if you're low on stress, if you've got a lot of, you know, natural killer cells that are there and

00:36:19.680 ready. So if your body is generally very healthy, you can be exposed to certain viruses and you

00:36:24.880 won't have any symptoms. Now, if you, if it's a, if it's a virus, your body hasn't dealt with before

00:36:29.600 or certain bacteria or fungus or parasite, whatever it is, then, then your body oftentimes will express

00:36:34.360 a symptom. And so it is both. It is, you know, the terrain theory is all about you get sick because

00:36:39.200 your body is sick and not well. Germ theory is you get sick because you're exposed to a germ.

00:36:43.900 And the answer is again, the terrain, the Bechamp theory is the primary reason you get sick is

00:36:48.280 because your body is not healthy. But the secondary reason is yes, you were exposed to a germ and your

00:36:54.640 body doesn't have quite enough, could be natural killer cells or immune cells in order to, to fight

00:37:00.780 it off in time. So your body, you know, starts going through a process of doing extra things in order

00:37:05.780 to eliminate it from our systems. Okay. But it's both for sure. So it it's both germs can cause,

00:37:12.680 but the conventional medical system is it's only germ theory. Yeah. Which is why they tell us to

00:37:17.700 sanitize our hands constantly. And the thing that they're not considering there, this is such a great

00:37:22.460 point with COVID. Well, let's sanitize everything, but now you're harming your terrain, right? So now

00:37:30.940 you're killing good bacteria. I mean, people don't realize this. So the amount of antibiotics we use

00:37:37.320 topically via hand sanitizers and those things is very high cleaning products at home. Uh, the number

00:37:43.140 one source we get of antibiotics is not prescription. It's via livestock. 80% of antibiotics today are

00:37:50.720 given to cattle. Yeah. And so we are getting some of that antibiotic residue. So, so we have a lot of

00:37:55.480 these things we're exposed to, which can weaken our immune system. And I do think we should wash our

00:38:00.380 hands. I just think hot water and things that aren't the strongly antibacterial lightly. It could

00:38:05.860 be a everything, an essential oil, something like that would, would actually be a lot better for our

00:38:10.000 systems. So if we are deciding, say we're putting our baby in the shopping cart sitting right in front

00:38:15.680 of us, what would be better for the baby to put their hands on the potentially germy shopping cart 0.97

00:38:22.580 handle, or for us to take that Purell sanitizing wipe and wipe it down in your opinion? So I've got a

00:38:28.480 two-part answer. Number one is, I don't think you have to wipe it down. Okay. Now there is a great,

00:38:35.820 there's a great study. And the person who did this study talked about, he said, more kids need to roll

00:38:41.840 around on the New York subway. And so that was that, that was the basis of the paper. Now that is filthy.

00:38:46.800 Okay. So, so we know that, but, but they go through and in part of the study was also related to,

00:38:52.460 uh, vaginal birth versus C-section. Yeah. And really there are studies that show

00:38:57.720 vaginal birth, you know, kids are going to tend to have stronger immune systems. And what they were

00:39:02.300 recommending in the paper was if you were doing C-section, go and take some of those fluids and

00:39:06.800 some of the, uh, some of the bacteria and then wipe it all over your child afterwards, because it's

00:39:12.140 really an important part of the immune development process. So we make sense. Yeah. So kids have to

00:39:17.280 have that exposure. Now here's, what's better than the germs of the shot on the shopping cart is getting

00:39:22.760 outside in the dirt. There are studies that show that kids that grow up on farms, kids that have

00:39:27.600 pets, specifically a dog or cat have stronger immune systems because they're getting more exposure to

00:39:32.540 natural germs that are in nature. The way this works, when we hear of vaccination and immunization,

00:39:38.600 we tend to only think of the shots today. That's the only way to do it. The reality is, is things

00:39:43.280 like honey, which contains over 200 types of pollen. When you're consuming raw local honey regularly or

00:39:48.820 local vegetables and fruits, there are microbes in there called soil-based organisms that we expose

00:39:54.660 ourselves to, which then help and allow our body to build a natural immunity to something,

00:39:59.600 strengthening our immune system. So one of the greatest ways to immunize ourselves truly

00:40:03.580 is to have a garden, spend time outdoors, have a pet, visit a farm, ride a horse, which, which not a lot

00:40:10.800 of people do today. Yeah. And I think going, going back to the conversation about the shopping cart,

00:40:16.660 my best advice would be spray it down with some essential oil, something that's more natural the body 0.66

00:40:21.960 can handle that's not as strong of an antibiotic. And then let your kids get out. In fact, I wrote

00:40:27.180 a book, I don't know if you know this, it's called Eat Dirt. And I really get into all of this in terms

00:40:31.580 of this sort of microbe theory and, and a lot of what we've been discussing. Okay. So when you say

00:40:38.700 eat dirt, you're talking about like the local honey and the things like that that you're talking about?

00:40:44.260 I am. I am. And here's an example. If you go to your local farmer's market and buy carrots or beets,

00:40:49.620 and you just bring them home and just wash them off with water or baking soda or vinegar,

00:40:53.900 whatever you're going to use, there is still, if you can hold them up real close, you're gonna

00:40:57.040 see a little brown speck still in there. Those are called soil-based organisms. So they're actually

00:41:01.480 probiotics on the outside of the plant that when we consume them, they help us break down and actually

00:41:06.560 digest the food better. So somebody is going to the grocery store and buying those baby carrots that

00:41:11.720 are kind of all shiny. They've been peeled and sprayed with probably chlorine. They're not getting those

00:41:16.720 soil-based organisms like you would be if you were buying those carrots. And so, yeah, I'm not saying

00:41:21.860 go out and eat handfuls of dirt, but I am saying a little dirt under your fingernails, kids being

00:41:25.200 exposed to that actually is good for their immune system. Okay. That's good. Cause my two older kids

00:41:30.560 really like to hunt beetles and worms and roly polies right now. So I'm glad that it's not only like a, 1.00

00:41:38.180 an okay pastime for them as far as like not being in front of screens, but also maybe for their

00:41:44.020 physical health too. Well, there's, there's something really interesting. It's called hormesis.

00:41:47.740 And this is what we've all seen the cold plant. You've seen how popular cold plunging has become.

00:41:52.520 So the reason why cold plunging can be beneficial is it helps your body be able to adapt better to

00:41:57.320 cold in the future. Okay. That's part of the benefit. Okay. And so when you're eating these

00:42:02.020 soil-based organisms or exposed to viruses or like the chicken pox, like when I was a kid,

00:42:06.220 now your body's better able to defend itself in the future. If you never let the body fight a fight on

00:42:11.660 its own, it can't become a better fighter. That's part of the idea. Okay. What do you think about

00:42:16.620 cold plunging specifically for women? Cause I've heard mixed things. Here's what I think it is

00:42:21.500 completely person dependent. Like my, my dietary philosophy is everybody's a unique individual

00:42:27.660 and everybody needs a different type of diet for the most part. Now that there are certain principles

00:42:32.960 like eat real food, you know, for most people. And I think generally speaking, more people do better

00:42:37.300 eating organic meat, a lot more vegetables and fruits, but everybody's unique individual. If I

00:42:43.200 have somebody with cancer come in, I'm going to have them do a lot of greens, some salads,

00:42:47.260 some vegetable juice. But if I put somebody with inflammatory bowel disease, raw vegetables,

00:42:52.900 it's going to wreck their system. So it's highly individualized. So with cold plunge, if you're a

00:42:58.360 woman and you have a cold body temperature, okay, you're, you're, you're cold more often than you're 0.97

00:43:04.880 warm. I don't think cold plunging is the best. I would recommend infrared sauna for those women 1.00

00:43:09.760 across the board, get an infrared sauna a lot. Cold plunging. If you did it once a week to help

00:43:14.480 your body better adapt to stress, that might be okay. But doing daily cold plunges for women, 0.98

00:43:19.880 especially with hypothyroidism or low body temperature, not a good idea. Okay. And what

00:43:24.340 do you think about, um, red light therapy? Yeah. Yeah. Red light therapy, what it does,

00:43:30.620 it really activates and helps strengthen our body with what it's called our mitochondria. And so your

00:43:34.860 mitochondria is like the engines of our cells. And so there are benefits of that. And I think,

00:43:39.920 um, one of the reasons why people get sick is there's lack of blood flow and nutrients and

00:43:45.920 oxygen bring brought to the area. When you put red light on an area, it's increasing blood flow,

00:43:52.220 oxygen and nutrients bring brought to the area. So I do think it's therapeutic. It's, it's a similar

00:43:56.720 thing to the sun. When you get the sun, it's really beneficial in small doses or moderate doses,

00:44:02.440 uh, for the skin, for the liver, for the immune system, for your bones, for numerous organs,

00:44:07.500 red light therapies that it's not as powerful as the sun, but there's still a lot of those similar

00:44:12.320 benefits. Are you a fan of someone trying to, um, I don't know the right terminology,

00:44:20.660 get in tune with their, is it circadian rhythms? Yeah. Circadian rhythms. Are you someone who believes

00:44:28.100 that that has a lot of benefits waking up in the morning, grounding, looking at the sun?

00:44:32.640 Yeah. Yeah, I am. Now, listen, I think there, the other thing I'd mention is there's majors and

00:44:36.780 minors. If, if, if everybody would try and follow every piece of health advice,

00:44:40.860 it would be overwhelming. It's very overwhelming. It is.

00:44:44.300 So I would say this, uh, in terms of importance, getting outside daily is pretty high on my list.

00:44:50.660 Just getting outside, going for a walk. Uh, it is true. When you see sunlight,

00:44:55.680 unlike indoor light, your body starts to start to lower the melatonin, raise the cortisol. It

00:45:01.700 starts to balance those hormones. And the way hormones work, it's like a domino. If insulin

00:45:05.640 gets off or melatonin gets off or cortisol gets off, well, then estrogen is off, then progesterone,

00:45:11.480 then testosterone. So there's sort of this thing that happens in the body. So if you can get outside

00:45:15.540 in the morning, get some natural sunlight, it's about 15 minutes is what some of the studies show.

00:45:19.920 So it really helps you reset your body for the day. Ideally. Now your, our body's amazing at

00:45:26.520 adapting. So if you don't, your body will still do it. It'll just take longer and it's not as ideal,

00:45:31.520 but there are definite benefits of getting outside early. Grounding is good. It's not a magic pill.

00:45:36.440 It's not, I mean, again, I think that, um, there are benefits of having our feet directly on the earth,

00:45:43.540 but, um, and I encourage people to do it, but there are other things that are more important,

00:45:49.940 like, like just walking. Yeah.

00:46:04.420 Speaking of feeling overwhelmed by all of the medical advice out there. One thing that

00:46:11.160 I don't want to say frustrates me because I under, you know, I've been to the chiropractor. I've been

00:46:16.000 to some more natural doctors. I haven't been to a functional medicine doctor yet, but one thing

00:46:21.980 that they always say, even like getting a massage or something is that you're stressed. You need to

00:46:27.100 lower your stress levels. And that kind of stresses me out more. Like I did this assessment that was

00:46:33.800 like you're in fight or flight too much and you're parasympathetic nerve. Yeah. All of that is,

00:46:41.820 you know, it's working too hard, which I understand how that could affect my health. I know that that's

00:46:46.620 not good, but I'm like, okay, but there's only so much I can do to relieve, you know, to relieve stress.

00:46:56.040 I am doing what I think that I can, but my life is just, this is just like the season of life that

00:47:03.280 we're in. We've got three little kids. We've got a lot going on. It's a happy season, but there's

00:47:08.320 just a lot. And I do kind of feel like I have to be on a lot. And so, and I'm sure that other people

00:47:15.560 have felt that way, that when you're just kind of told by the more functional doctors that, okay,

00:47:20.840 you're stressed, you need to be less stressed, that kind of adds stress. So how do we approach that?

00:47:25.260 Can I tell you, I mean, I used to have this happen all the time. I would have patients come in and

00:47:30.120 maybe we've been to 10 other doctors and, and I would ask them, I'd say, well, you know, what did

00:47:34.720 your other doctor recommend you do? And they would say something like reduce stress. And I said, well,

00:47:38.880 what did he tell you to do? Or she tell you to do? And they would say, well, they didn't,

00:47:42.780 they just said reduce stress. And it's so ridiculous. So, so for most people, here's the issue.

00:47:47.740 It's not, it's not stress. It's that you don't, it's not, we're going to have stress

00:47:55.240 with kids. We're going to have stress with career. We're going to have, like, some of

00:47:57.980 that is natural. It's that it's going all day, every day. And so for most people, they

00:48:04.360 just need to schedule to do more things that they enjoy doing. That's really it. That's

00:48:09.100 the top way that people can reduce stress. Cause it's, it's almost, it is more stressful

00:48:12.980 to be like, and I've seen this with so many patients. I've seen them make themselves worse

00:48:16.560 because they're like, I got to reduce stress. So they're running around from appointment

00:48:20.400 to appointment. I'm going to get a massage. I'm going to do red light therapy. I'm going to

00:48:25.240 all that being said, here's how you do to reduce stress. Schedule lunch with a best

00:48:29.620 friend, schedule time to go on a walk with your family. So just schedule, take a, take

00:48:35.780 a Sabbath that despite what somebody would believe about, you know, I know on this show,

00:48:39.480 you've got all kinds of different probably beliefs about, should you follow a Sabbath?

00:48:42.740 You shouldn't, but all that being said, I think you probably should take a full day, give

00:48:47.360 it to God and your family. But all that being said, if people want to reduce stress, write

00:48:51.660 down the top five or 10 things that you love doing that kind of bring you peace and happiness,

00:48:56.360 reading a novel, whatever it is, and just schedule those things. Like you schedule other things

00:49:00.960 into your, into your daily schedule. That, that has, I've seen the best results with people

00:49:05.740 and myself just following that, that philosophy.

00:49:09.100 I love that because that is like adding something enjoyable rather than either adding an obligation

00:49:16.740 that you don't really want to do or trying to take something away. Obviously there are things

00:49:22.960 that we can take out of our lives that are making us unhealthy, like constantly being glued to our

00:49:27.080 phones. But again, trying to take everything away, then I'm, I got to add my grounding. I got to look

00:49:33.100 at the sun for 15 minutes. Oh, I didn't do that. Now my entire day is off. Let me try to make it up

00:49:38.200 by doing the red light therapy in the sauna. And I'm not saying all those things are bad. They can

00:49:42.280 all be great things, but if they are causing our stress levels to go up and make us feel like

00:49:47.120 failures every day, then it's probably going to be really counterproductive for our health.

00:49:51.880 A hundred percent. And there are certain conditions. I see a lot of people with Lyme disease,

00:49:55.940 fibromyalgia, certain autoimmune to where it's, they're making them, what's making them just as sick as

00:50:02.220 possibly a poor diet or, or, or other things is just being stressed about their condition.

00:50:08.200 For sure. Yeah. Um, what, if you were to say in general, you said everyone is bio-individual,

00:50:14.780 but if you were giving general health advice for how to eat, um, vegan versus, uh, carnivore diet

00:50:27.100 versus keto versus just eating everything organically in moderation, like what would you say?

00:50:32.780 I generally don't like any of those diets because it is so individualized. Now, do I think about 10%

00:50:39.660 of people to 20% for a period of time could benefit on ketogenic if they have MS or, uh, there's

00:50:46.060 epileptic seizures or something like that? Yes. Do I think if somebody has a really severe form of

00:50:51.480 inflammatory autoimmune disease, they could do well on carnivore for a short time? Yes. Do I think

00:50:55.860 somebody with cancer can maybe benefit on being vegan for, to do a cleanse for a couple of weeks?

00:51:00.800 Yes. But I think that for, let's call it 75 to 80% of people, you want to try and get organic meat

00:51:11.100 and bone broth and those sorts of things. You want to get vegetables. You want to get fruits.

00:51:18.560 You want to try and get some healthy fats, coconut, olive oil, uh, coconut, olive oil, um, avocado,

00:51:25.580 those sorts of things. And then getting some whole grains ideally that are sprouted or cooked for a

00:51:30.140 long time. Rice made into, we call it kanji, but just cooked. It means it's cooked a long time. Um,

00:51:35.880 sourdough bread. Like I, I eat sourdough bread. My wife makes it all the time. I love it. It's amazing.

00:51:40.120 And so, you know, you just need to prepare it properly using the ancient grains and, and, and

00:51:44.860 it's, and it's pretty healthy. So, you know, I, I really believe in a biblical diet. I mean,

00:51:48.920 if you want to know what I believe in, it's really a biblically based diet that's also based on the

00:51:52.860 individual. I mean, Jesus was eating fish and bread. Solomon ate meat and bread. Abraham ate meat

00:51:57.880 and bread. So there's even this whole paleo movement. I was never part of the paleo movement of

00:52:01.720 remove all grains and this and that, because it's evolutionary. Like I'm a Christian, like I'm,

00:52:08.340 I'm all about what does the Bible teach? What, what, what are those biblical principles of health?

00:52:12.620 Yeah. And so I really think, let me just say again, meat, vegetables, fruit. If people really

00:52:17.680 focus on those, maybe some healthy fat, then that's going to go a long, long way.

00:52:22.060 And what would you say for someone who wants to lose weight? Maybe they're already kind of eating

00:52:28.520 like organic foods. They're not going out and they're eating fast food, but they're still just

00:52:34.000 not losing the weight and say they want to, or need to lose 20 pounds in a certain amount of time.

00:52:41.880 What do you tell that person?

00:52:43.740 Well, the first thing I tell them is don't take Ozempic. Okay. And the reason is there was a

00:52:48.780 recent study that came out that showed that one of the big issues there is that you're not losing

00:52:53.220 just fat. You're losing a lot of muscle mass and bone density. A study just came out showing that.

00:52:59.160 And so there's a lot of people not realizing, okay, you're keeping the fat, but losing the muscle.

00:53:03.460 That's not good. Or it's about a 15% increase compared to if you're losing weight on your own.

00:53:09.000 So that's a big issue. Also, if you look up the hashtag Ozempic face, you'll see people's face

00:53:13.440 gets sunken in. It's because it causes something called gastroparesis where things don't move through

00:53:17.820 your digestive system as fast. So now you have nutrient malabsorption. So you're not absorbing

00:53:23.080 your vitamins. So people are getting that sunken in look. So that's the first thing. After that,

00:53:28.460 I would say focus on protein and fiber as much as you can. I'd recommend 30 to 50 grams of protein

00:53:35.040 per meal. For most women, I'd say it's going to be about 30 grams. In the morning, that could be a 1.00

00:53:40.960 smoothie with some collagen or plant protein, something like that. Maybe it's a half a cup of

00:53:45.520 berries, a little coconut milk. You like plant protein better than whey protein?

00:53:50.000 Well, in reality, the only protein we're typically missing in our diets would be a bone broth

00:53:54.900 protein or a collagen protein. That's going to be the healthiest by far.

00:53:59.000 Not pea protein. Because I've had it, I don't like how it tastes.

00:54:02.920 Yeah. So here's what I would say. If people really want to be as healthy as possible,

00:54:06.900 go out and buy bone broth protein or a multi-collagen protein. Because that's the type of

00:54:12.560 protein you're not getting the rest of the day. And it's the one that's going to actually have the

00:54:15.920 most anti-inflammatory healing benefits is bone broth protein and that. So do that. And then if you want

00:54:21.020 to add in, if somebody tolerates whey pretty well, then they could do that. If somebody tolerates

00:54:27.340 pea or rice, that's fine too. But I would say still aim for that 30 grams of protein a day

00:54:32.420 in the morning. And it could also be, it could be pastured eggs. It could be

00:54:36.980 chicken or turkey or beef sausage. I think all those things are fine. It's a whole nother topic. I don't

00:54:42.200 like pork, but we'll stay away from it. Okay. Okay. That's good to know.

00:54:44.540 And the reason is it's not from being under the law. It's more, they're the highest carrier of

00:54:51.180 parasites of any animal. Well, I thought about that recently that, you know, I don't believe

00:54:55.820 that we have to abide by Old Testament cleansing laws, but I'm like, there's probably a reason that 1.00

00:55:01.640 God had for it, right? And guess what the dirtiest, most unhealthy seafood is? It's shrimp. It's

00:55:09.140 shellfish. And so, yeah. And so, um, I would say get protein, um, protein, and then lots of fiber

00:55:17.040 via, I mean, berries are the best for fruit. So lots of berries and then vegetables. And if you can

00:55:22.820 really focus on doing a diet high in protein, high in fiber, people will tend to lose weight pretty

00:55:27.800 quickly doing lower. If you're going to do carbs more in the morning, less at night.

00:55:30.900 I was going to ask about that. Like, do you think, is there anything to going to bed hungry

00:55:36.180 that helps someone lose weight? Well, it's, it's, it's less about hunger. It's more about

00:55:41.760 giving your body time to digest before you lay down. Cause when you lay down, it's a lot harder

00:55:46.500 on your system. So you typically want three hours, earlier dinners are better. Um, and so if you eat

00:55:52.200 at six, go to bed around nine, something like that, it tends to be, you can tell I've got a four,

00:55:56.780 you know, three slash four year old right now, or almost four year old. And so it's like, I'm,

00:56:00.120 you know, sleeping with her right now. And my wife's sleeping with the four month old and 1.00

00:56:03.200 we're doing a little bit and I'm like, sleep is hard to come. But my point is, is I'm, I'm going

00:56:07.340 to bed at like 8 PM right now. So I'm loving it. Oh, okay. So you are, you're getting plenty of

00:56:12.240 sleep then. Okay. Well, good. Yeah. It's, it's not as restful through the night, but we're, I mean,

00:56:17.340 I'm in bed a long time. I'll say that. So, um, so yeah, if people want to lose weight again,

00:56:23.340 protein and fiber. And then the other thing would be movement. I mean, ideally it's weight training

00:56:27.980 followed by a little bit of interval training. So if three days a week, you went to the gym, did 30 minutes of

00:56:32.380 weights, 15 minutes of like a interval cardio. That's the ideal. If you can do those things

00:56:37.740 while also doing things you love, keeping stress low, but people will lose weight very quickly

00:56:41.920 if they do mostly meat, vegetables, berries, and then throw in some other real food along with that.

00:56:49.300 Okay. Last thing, if you had a microphone and everyone in the United States could listen to

00:56:55.240 you for 30 seconds and you had to give them like one health tip that you felt like would make the

00:57:01.380 biggest difference for everyone. What would you say?

00:57:05.560 You know, for me, this may surprise some people. I have been doing a practice. I call it my spiritual

00:57:09.440 triathlon every morning for about 20 years. And so what I do is I wake up in the morning and I go on

00:57:15.760 a walk. I listen to praise and worship music and I just thank God for how blessed I am. And so I do that

00:57:21.860 while I go on a 15 minute walk and I'm getting sunshine, I'm getting a walk. And most importantly,

00:57:26.340 I'm praising God and starting my mind right with that. I'll go inside, I'll read my Bible for a

00:57:31.320 period of time. And then after that, I'll spend some time in prayer. And for me, just the peace

00:57:37.020 that brings, the growth it brings, I think what it does for my entire day, I think is the most

00:57:41.860 important health practice that I have. Now, if there's just something secondary that people want

00:57:46.040 to know that's more sort of nutrition, health related, I would say just change breakfast.

00:57:53.340 I mean, people feel like, oh, I've got to, again, I've got a hot, you know, cold plunge. I've got to

00:57:58.200 infrared. I've got it. If you just change breakfast and you're getting started, that's one

00:58:03.140 third of your diet. That's actually a really, really momentous change. And so I would say try

00:58:07.900 and do something like a superfood smoothie, do a half a cup of berries, do 30 to 50 grams of protein,

00:58:13.100 do a little bit of like water, coconut milk or something else in there. And if you just change

00:58:18.380 that, that could radically change your life. And hey, if you couple those two together,

00:58:22.400 you know, sort of the philosophy, you win the morning, you win the day. I think it's a great

00:58:25.640 start to the day for people. That's good, man. There's a million more things that I could ask,

00:58:31.220 but we went through a lot today and you gave us a lot of insight. So thank you so much. Tell

00:58:35.860 everyone, you got a new book out, so tell everyone about your new book, where they can get that and how

00:58:41.140 they can follow you. Yeah. So I have a new book out. It's called Think This, Not That. I've been

00:58:45.840 teaching everyone how to eat this, not that for years. So the idea is think this, not that. And the

00:58:50.000 information in the book actually saved my life. We didn't, I didn't get into this, but two years

00:58:56.280 ago, I went in for, I injured my back, went in for a real simple procedure and using actually

00:59:04.280 natural form medicine called stem cell. And something happened during the procedure. A few months

00:59:09.420 later, I woke up, I couldn't walk and I didn't walk for a year. This time last year, I wasn't able

00:59:13.300 to walk. Wow. Yeah. For a full year. And, um, and so I wrote that entire book while I was on my back

00:59:20.080 and went through how I healed the mindset involved a number of things. And so the book's called Think

00:59:25.060 This, Not That. I just hit the New York Times bestseller list last week, which I'm excited about.

00:59:29.420 That's amazing. So yeah, people could get that on Amazon. And, um, and also I have a podcast,

00:59:33.700 which I'd love to have you on, uh, sometime. It's called the Dr. Josh Axe show. We cover a lot of

00:59:38.180 health, uh, topics specifically and some, you know, growth topics and, um, and then social media

00:59:44.160 handles just at Dr. Josh Axe on Instagram, Facebook, and YouTube. Yes. Thank you so much.

00:59:48.840 I really appreciate your wisdom. Awesome. Thanks for having me, Allie.

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01:01:00.640 Thanks.

01:01:01.620 We'll be back here tomorrow.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - April 17, 2024

Ep 987 ｜ Healing Breast Implant Illness, Hypothyroidism & Infertility ｜ Guest： Dr. Josh Axe

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