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Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey
- April 15, 2019
Ep 99 | Black Liberation Theology, Nation of Islam & Marxism
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Hey guys, what's up? Welcome to Relatable. If you are watching this on YouTube, which by the way,
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if you're not watching this on YouTube, you should definitely subscribe to my YouTube channel. But
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this looks a little bit different. I look even more like a trash person than I usually do because
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I recorded this episode and then I realized, okay, no, I want to re-record this episode because there
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are some more things that I want to say. So I had to do it last minute. So I don't even have all my
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equipment set up. I don't have any makeup on. I'm literally sitting on my couch and talking to you
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guys because there's just a lot that I want to say. And I didn't feel like I said it correctly in
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the first recording. That's how much I love you guys. I hope that you guys know that I really want
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to deliver to you guys the best possible content that I possibly can with all of the information
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that I possibly can because we are tackling a pretty complex subject. We're going to talk about
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black liberation theology, which we talked about a little bit last week, but we're going to talk
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about some connections that it has to two other ideologies to the nation of Islam, as well as
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to Marxism and the ties that all of them have. And then what that actually points to and what that
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means for us as evangelical Christians who have been kind of watching the social justice left
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infiltrate the church and how really godless views have made their way into evangelicalism
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using the Trojan horse of social justice. So that's what we're going to talk about today.
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It's a little bit complex, but I think that it will be extremely informational. And as always,
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I will look forward to you guys' thoughts. You can always email me,
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Allie, at the conservativemillennialblog.com. Last week, I was in LA and I got to sit down with
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Dave Rubin, who is a wonderful person with a wonderful podcast. And we talked about marriage.
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He, if you don't know, he is gay and he is married. And I talked about gay marriage from a Christian
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perspective. So that's always a challenging conversation when you talk about views that
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you know are going to be controversial. But Dave is so incredible at having respectful and
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productive dialogue with people that he doesn't agree with. And that is getting extremely rare.
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And because of that, it's also getting more and more valuable. We also talked about a whole host
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of other things. We talked about AOC. We talked about Donald Trump and why he is still gaining
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evangelical support despite kind of his personality and personal life that might seem to contradict that
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in some ways. We talked about a lot of stuff. So make sure that you go to Dave Rubin's YouTube
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channel and you can see that entire conversation there. Or you can listen on iTunes or wherever you
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get your podcast to. The audio version is there as well. So before we get into this extremely complex
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topic of Black liberation theology and the Marxism that it was really founded on, I do want to remind
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you guys to go see Unplanned if you have not already. I saw it in extremely emotionally turbulent
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experience. And I mean that in the best way possible. I mean, think about all of your favorite
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movies. All of your favorite movies are emotionally turbulent in some way. I remember the first time I
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saw The Notebook. I don't think I stopped crying for three days. I mean, of course, I was 14 and I
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probably shouldn't have seen it at that age. But I mean, I really felt like I was attached to Noah and
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Allie, especially since my name is Allie. Why do you think I named my cat Rachel McAdams? It's
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because I love The Notebook so much. Anyway, that doesn't really have that much to do with Unplanned,
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except that the emotionalism of it, I shouldn't say emotionalism, the emotion that comes along
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with it is not a bad thing. It is a good thing and you shouldn't be scared to see it. Now,
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the MFAA or the MPAA, and now I don't remember, but oh yeah, MPAA, it gave them an R
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rating and they're trying to kind of scare away people who maybe don't want to see R-rated movies
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or they're trying to scare away young people, which is very unfortunate because abortion is
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something that young people want to see. And as you know, as a young person, you are able to get
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an abortion without parental consent. And so this is something that young people need to see. You will
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actually see an abortion. Difficult to watch, but so important. If you don't already know, this is the
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story of Abby Johnson. She got two abortions herself and then she worked at Planned Parenthood.
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She was staunchly pro-choice. Her husband, her mom could not convince her otherwise. She was so good
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at what she did at Planned Parenthood that she actually rose to the ranks. She ended up directing
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this Planned Parenthood clinic until one day she was called to actually assist in an abortion.
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And she had never seen one before. It completely changed her perspective. And she knew that she was
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never going to be the same again. And so this is her story. You've probably seen the controversy
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surrounding it. Google actually put a propaganda label on it. The social media sites have been
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trying to censor their platforms ever since the movie came out, but it has been killing it at the
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box office. It's been doing really well. And so make sure that you go see it for yourself. Try to bring
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your friends. I know personally of a pro-choice person who went to see it, didn't know what an abortion
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was, and was like, oh my gosh, that totally changes my perspective. And so it's having a big impact.
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So make sure that you go to unplannedfilm.com. That is unplannedfilm.com. You can see where it's
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playing near you. You are not going to leave the theater being the same person that you were when you
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walked in. I can just guarantee you that. And I know that from personal experience. Okay. Now we are
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going to get into what we are talking about. So last week, if you missed last Monday's topic,
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we talked about Ekamini Uwan who spoke at the Sparrow conference. There was a lot of backlash
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that came with the conversation that she had at Sparrow conference. Sparrow took her interview
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down, but Ekamini was actually able to get her video footage back up. And so the interview is now
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online. I had already seen the transcript, but seeing the video honestly didn't change anything
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that I said last Monday. A bunch of you guys sent me the link, but the context, the full context that
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I was given by the actual video really did nothing to detract from her words. I have done a lot of
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research on her previous podcast episodes on her blog posts and the articles that were written about
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this particular talk to be able to get a sense of what she actually believes. And last week we used
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scripture to kind of take down the ideology that she says is centered on the gospel. And we came to
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the conclusion through God's word that actually that is not the gospel. Now, my hope and my prayer
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for Uwan and for anyone who espouses the ideology that she espouses is repentance, that she would
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come to know the true freeing gospel of Christ that is not centered on this idea that whiteness is
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wicked or that we need to divest from whiteness. Now, there has been a lot of drama back and forth
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over the past week or so between this Sparrow conference and between Uwan Ekamini, or Ekamini Uwan,
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who hired a lawyer and all of that. But I don't really want to get into all of that because
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it makes me sad. It makes me sad that there's this kind of division. Now, I do hope, and I don't mean
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this in a patronizing way at all. I say this as someone who believes that there are true believers
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that run Sparrow conference, true believers that attended Sparrow conference. But I do hope that they
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kind of realize, OK, this was a really bad consequence of choosing someone that was more
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woke than they are theologically sound. I mean, Sparrow knew from what Uwan had done in the past
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online that was very public, the exact type of views that she had and that she would articulate
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when she got on stage. And so for them afterwards to say, oh, we're just going to take this down and
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not really talk about it that much. I think that that was probably wrong. So I actually am on
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Uwan's side. I'm not on his side, but I get her. I understand her frustration and everything we've
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seen since then that she said the things that she has been saying for a really long time.
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Now, that in and of itself is a problem, but she didn't go up there and shock anyone who put on
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Sparrow by what she said, because these are views that she's been having for a long time. Now,
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if you would like to know what I'm talking about, I would go to last week's episode,
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Monday, Wayward Wokeness. We kind of break down her. We break down her views that she articulated
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in the interview at Sparrow Conference, as well as one of her blog posts on systematictheology.com.
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And we use scripture to, of course, back up our arguments there, as we always do. And if I do not
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do that, if there is some discrepancy between what I am saying and what scripture says, I of course want
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you to know I am much more concerned with being biblically sound in what I say and how I argue
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my views than I am being right. And so if you come to me and have an argument with something that I say
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that has to do with the Bible, just make sure that you do have scripture. When we have this conversation,
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I get emails and I get tweets from people saying, hey, you said this and I don't like that, or I'm
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offended by that, or that's wrong, but they don't have any scripture to back it up. And if what I said
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is backed by scripture, then what you need to say is backed by script needs to be backed by scripture
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too. So we can both understand that we are operating under the same objective standard, which is the word
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of God, which is supreme over any of our opinions. Okay. So now let's talk about this black liberation
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theology. I want to talk about what exactly it is because we discussed it a little bit last week,
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but as I was digging more into it, I just found some really interesting commonalities with some
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other ideologies that we would say is decidedly are decidedly not Christian. Now black liberation
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theology is seen as a Christian theology. I actually had someone who follows me, reach out to me and
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say, Hey, liberation theology, isn't bad. It's just more focused on praxis also on practice on
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pragmatism than it is on spiritual things. It's not all bad. There are parts of it that are redeemable.
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Well, I just don't think that that is true. If you actually know how black liberation theology
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was founded and if you know what it's about. So liberation theology is actually something that
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started, I believe it was the 19th century, not the 20th century, maybe the end of the 19th century
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in Latin America by the Catholic church. And it might've started out as a good thing. Of course,
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relieving people from oppression and fighting for justice is something that Christians are called to
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do. That's kind of what it originally started as. Since then, the Catholic church has actually spoken out
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in large part against liberation theology, because what it did is kind of, it lost sight of the
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gospel and the spiritual needs of people and said, okay, we're just going to meet the material needs
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of people. And how it tried to accomplish that in many ways was through big government policies.
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Of course, that's what we see in a lot of the social liberalism or just a liberalism in general of
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today. Well, black liberation theology, one of its founders was James H. Cone, and it took a lot of
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inspiration from the liberation theology that started in the Catholic church in Latin America that,
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like I said, many Catholics and many Catholic leaders later said, okay, no, that's not the way
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to go. That's not an ideology that we are latching onto. Well, James H. Cone saw some good in it and
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said, well, I want to take that and I want to apply it not just to America, but specifically
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to black people in America. So the stated purpose of black liberation theology is to liberate
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non-white people from multiple forms of political, social, economic, and religious subjugation.
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James Cone says, it is a rational study of the being of God in the world, in light, in the world,
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in light of the existential situation of an oppressed community relating the forces of liberation to the
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essence of the gospel, which is Jesus Christ. Like I said, he is one of the founding advocates
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of black liberation theology. Now, that might sound okay, but I want you to listen. I want you to
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listen to the stated purpose of another section of faith or another ideology that I think we would
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all agree, no matter our political persuasions, if we are Christians, that has nothing to do with
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the God of the Bible. So the stated purpose of this particular ideology is to teach the downtrodden
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and defenseless black people a thorough knowledge of God and of themselves, and to put them on the
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road to self-independence with a superior culture and higher civilization than they had previously
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experienced. It also is to improve the spiritual, mental, social, and economic condition of African
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Americans in the United States and of all humanity. Those two statements of purpose are very similar,
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black liberation theology and this particular ideology. The particular ideology that I just
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quoted in the latter section of what I just said is of the nation of Islam. So that was a quote by
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Fard Muhammad, who was the founder of the nation of Islam in the middle of the 20th century. And James
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H. Cone actually took a lot of inspiration from the nation of Islam, took a lot of inspiration
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later from Malcolm X and from the black power movement, of course, in the 1960s and 70s to form
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this black liberation theology. So right away, it should tell us something that black liberation
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theology is mirroring so closely in its language, the nation of Islam, which of course has been
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accused of being a black supremacy group, which I think you could probably listen to the rhetoric of
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its leaders and deduce that pretty easily. You also know nation of Islam because it is led by
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Louis Farrakhan today, the guy who calls Jews satanic termites and who preaches about the exclusive
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exaltation of black people or of non-white people. That is the common thread between black liberation
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theology and the nation of Islam is the self-glorification or the glorification, the exaltation
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of black people. That is what they see as their mission and as their gospel. The only difference is,
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is that the nation of Islam uses, Muhammad uses Islam as their cover for that and black liberation
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theology loosely uses Christianity for that. Now there is also a deeper connection here beyond the
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stated purposes of nation of Islam and black liberation theology. As you know, Louis Farrakhan does
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not like Jews. That's not a controversial statement. You can look that up online. He does not like Jews.
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He calls them wicked. He calls them satanic. He refers to them in subhuman terms like termites.
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You can watch any of Louis Farrakhan's. Again, this is the leader of Nation of Islam.
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Anywhere online, he posts them himself. He posts them himself on his Twitter account. So really not
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hard to find. James H. Cone, the original advocate of black liberation theology, he wrote a book called
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black theology and black power in 1969. Here is what he had to say about Jewish people. Then the whole
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world knows the Nazis murdered millions of Jews and could suspect that the remaining Jews are having
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some emotional reaction to that fact. He says black people, on the other hand, are either ignored or
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thought to be so subhuman that they have no feelings when one of their number is killed because he was a
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black person. Probably no week goes by in the United States that some black person is not severely
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beaten and the news is reported in the press. The surviving Jews had one big soul-wrenching
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incident that wrenched them back to group identification. The surviving black people
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experienced constant jolts that almost never let them forget for even an hour that they are black
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people. So what we hear in there is something that is called Holocaust envy. What he is trying to say
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is that black people have had it worse. He's saying, yeah, the Holocaust was bad, but black people still
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have it bad. And so instead of James Cone just saying, hey, black people are being treated unfairly,
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he brings Jews into it for no other reason than to stoke resentment. James Cone also says in his book,
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this is away from away from the issue of antisemitism. He also says that a black person's
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hatred of white people is not at all, quote, pathological, but quote, a healthy human reaction
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to oppression, insult, and terror. He also says in the same book, to be Christian is to be one of those
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whom God has chosen. God has chosen black people. That is James Cone, the founder of black liberation
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theology. But let me be clear, if it's not already evident in the fact that black liberation theology
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so closely mirrors nation of Islam, which we know is rooted in something that is not godly, that is not
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biblical, and that is evil, let me be clear about this just with his own words. James Cone was not a
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Christian. Here's a quote from him in 1997. I still regard Jesus Christ today as the chief focus of my
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perspective on God, but not to the exclusion of other religious perspectives. God's reality is not bound by
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one manifestation of the divine in Jesus, but can't be found wherever people are being empowered to
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fight for freedom. Life giving power for the poor and the oppressed is the primary criterion that we
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must use to judge the adequacy of our theology, not abstract concepts. As Malcolm X put it, I believe in
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a religion that believes in freedom. Anytime I have to accept a religion that won't let me fight a battle
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for my people, I say to hell with that religion. So, so what James Cone is saying in 1997, the founder of
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Black Liberation Theology, who is still today hailed as a Christian hero, as a heroic theologian, he advocated
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for the hatred of white people, resentment against Jews, and the inherent chosenness of black people, and
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the validity of any faith that speaks of freedom. None of which, by the way, the Bible is saying this is a
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qualification for the gospel. None of which, by the way, the Bible says, yes, this is what it means to
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follow Jesus Christ. I mean, he completely denounces the exclusive reality of Christianity that says
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that Jesus is the only way, the only truth, the only life, and that no one comes to the Father except
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through him. What we see is that James Cone is much more concerned with the, quote, liberation of
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those he sees as marginalized, which in this case is his own black community, rather than the salvation
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of their souls. That, of course, is what we have always seen from the social gospel. That, of course,
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is what we have always seen from liberation theology. That is, of course, what we always see today
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when we hear this social justice gospel being played over and over again. They don't talk about the
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salvation that is found in Christ. They don't talk about that in order for your soul to be saved,
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in order to know true freedom, in order to know true liberation, that you have to know Christ,
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that there is no liberation outside of that. What good does it do to a man to gain the whole world
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and lose his soul? You don't hear them talking about that. They're much more concerned with their
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politics than they are the power of the cross. But these are all of the things that black liberation
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theology is founded on, that its founder espoused themselves. So how does this reflect what we talked
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about last week at Kamini Uwan and her theology that she talked about at Sparrow Conference? And
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again, this is not important because of this one particular person, because of Uwan. This is important
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because it was at Sparrow Conference. And this is not just about Sparrow Conference. This is about
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a mainstream conference in Dallas, Texas, with mainstream evangelical speakers speaking at this
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conference, speakers who probably used to be considered at one point theologically conservative.
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They are sharing a stage with, they are giving a platform to the kinds of people that have this
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exact liberation theology. It is important for us to know that that is happening. So let's look at
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how closely the views that were espoused at Sparrow and by Akamini Uwan and James Cone, this person who is
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decidedly not a Christian based on any biblical foundation whatsoever, let's see how closely they
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mirror each other in their views. So here's a quote from James Cone. The appearance of black theology
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means that the black community is now ready to do something about the white Jesus. So he cannot get
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in the way of our revolution. He goes on to say, we must quote, kill the white Jesus. Now let us read a
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quote from Uwan from her blog. Do the minds and lives of these urban disciples reflect a baptism of
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faith in the marginalized brown-skinned Palestinian? We talked about the problem with St.
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Palestinian God, man, Jesus Christ. Or does their baptism reflect faith in a capitalist white Jesus
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clothed in a polo blazer, khakis, and loafers? They are grave consequences for worshiping the latter,
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which is no more than an idol and discipling people of color to do the same. Here's another quote by
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Cone. Whiteness, as revealed in the history of America, is the expression of what is wrong with man.
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It is a symbol of man's depravity, whiteness. God cannot be white, even though white churches have
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portrayed him as white. When we look at what whiteness has done to the minds of men in this
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country, we can clearly see what the New Testament meant when it spoke of the principalities and powers.
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Ekamini Uwan, her quote is, whiteness is wicked. You need to divest from whiteness. So it should not
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surprise us, since Black liberation theology is linked to the Black Power Movement, which advocated
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for Black supremacy. It should not surprise us that we are seeing this kind of resentment. It is no
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different. It's no different than what we see in all of the intersectionality in the oppression
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Olympics of the left. Whoever is the most marginalized wins. The Nation of Islam and Black liberation
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theology share in what we called a few weeks ago on this podcast is the gospel of grievance.
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And you know what the gospel of grievance is closely linked to? Collectivism. Yes, Churchill called
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socialism the gospel of envy because that is exactly what it is. These are all Marxist ideologies,
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all liberation theologies. Nation of Islam, I would say, is a liberation theology. They're all
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Marxist ideas. James Cone was a Marxist. Karl Marx, as we discussed last week, espoused these very same
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views that we are seeing in the Nation of Islam and Black liberation theology, just without the
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guise of religion and without the exclusive focus on Black people. It was the oppressed versus the
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oppressor, the proletariat or the working class versus the bourgeoisie, the elite. The poor should hate
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and envy the rich. It is this idea that those in power are evil because they have more than those
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at the bottom. Socialists like Karl Marx and like today's AOC and Bernie Sanders espouse the same
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views. That is why they demonize the so-called one percent. They demonize corporations. They demonize
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the haves in favor of the have-nots or else they say that they do. And they demand that those who have
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worked hard for their money must give almost all of it to the government to redistribute it as they see
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fit. That is how Marx thought equality would happen. And that is how today's socialists think
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equality and liberation will happen. But has that worked out? No, it hasn't. Has communism worked
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out? By the way, people, I think I have a review on iTunes that, oh, this girl doesn't know the
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difference in socialism and communism. Well, Vladimir Lenin himself said that communism is the end goal of
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socialism. So don't tell me that they don't always go hand in hand. I mean, let's look at Soviet
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Russia. Let's look at Nazi Germany. Let's look at communist China. Let's look at North Korea. Let's
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look at Venezuela. Let's look at the hundreds of millions of people, 100 million people at least
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who died in the 20th century because of collectivist regimes. Socialism does not work.
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It's billed as this thing where you put power in the hands of the people. But socialism does not work
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without concentrated central power. That is what happens when the government becomes the middleman
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between our wealth, the people's wealth that they made themselves, and the poor. Our wealth,
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it's funneled through the hands of bureaucrats to do with it as they see fit. A socialist tell you
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that power is in the hands of the worker, power is the hands of the people, but it's not. That doesn't
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even make any logical sense. In order to take the power out of the hands of people who make money,
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you have to have a large central government that forces that wealth out of their hands.
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And before you say, well, Scandinavian countries seem to have it figured out. Scandinavian countries
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are not socialists. They have said that themselves. They are not socialists. They are welfare states,
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meaning they have a very high tax rate. It's about a 60% tax rate in most Scandinavian countries,
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and it's actually flat. We have a very progressive tax system, meaning that the more money you make,
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the more you pay in taxes or the higher rates you pay in taxes. Well, the Scandinavian countries
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basically almost all have a flat tax rate, but the means of production are still in the hands of
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the people, not the government, which makes them not socialist countries. True socialism is Venezuela,
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Soviet Russia, Nazi Germany. How did those turn out? Not too well. So here's another fun connection,
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though, between Marxism, the nation of Islam, and black liberation theology. Here's Karl Marx in 1844
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in his book, The Jewish Question. Quote, what is the secular basis of Judaism? Practical needs,
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self-interest. What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money.
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Very well, then emancipation from huckstering and money, consequently from practical real Judaism,
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would be the self-emancipation of our time. So here we see Karl Marx perpetuating yet another trope
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that we have seen in these other ideologies that Jews are controlling the world, that they really have
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it okay. Karl Marx seems to be perpetuating this thing that Jews control the banks, that kind of
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conspiracy theory that has hurt Jewish people and has perpetuated anti-Semitism for a long time. So
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it's just interesting that anti-Semitism and resentment against Jews is a common threat here.
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It's just interesting. All James Cone of the black liberation theology did is take the liberation
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theology of Latin America united with the black power ideology and the nation of Islam, and there you
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have black liberation theology that's espoused by people that are still in the pulpits preaching it
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today, despite the fact that James Cone wasn't a Christian, despite the fact that it mirrors ideologies
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that have nothing to do with Christianity, despite the fact that it is rooted in Marxism, which has been
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responsible for the suffering and the slaughtering of people throughout history since its birth.
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So once we have this context, nothing that we hear a black liberation theology people preaching
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is surprising anymore. That Achaemeni Uwan and others call whiteness wicked. Cone condoned the hatred of
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white people, that they say white people need to divest from whiteness. They use terms that we
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hear a lot on the left that women need to rid themselves of the patriarchy. This is the stuff of
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liberation theology of Marxism. So it should be no surprise that many of these on the social justice
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left are insistent upon calling Jesus a Palestinian instead of a Jew. We talked about why that was
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historically incorrect last week. It should not surprise us that they are willing to link arms with
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people who espouse views that have nothing to do with the Bible whatsoever. As long as they perpetuate
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what they would call it the pragmatic manifestation of the gospel, it's really nothing more than
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collectivism that has been tried and tried and tried and has failed over and over again. And the fact
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that the black liberation theology parallels so closely the nation of Islam, it just shows us that it truly is
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a false teaching, how non-Christian and how unbiblical it is because they are both rooted in sin. They're
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both rooted in grievance. They are both rooted in resentment. One just calls on Muhammad. One calls on
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Jesus. They are both rooted in self-exaltation. They are both rooted in self-glorification. You see that
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in the attitudes of the people who hold to these views. Self-exaltation, self-glorification, saying,
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no one can stop me. I'm on top of the world. I'm invincible. Is that the attitude of someone that is
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humbly following Christ who has taken Christ at his word, who has said, yes, I will come and die.
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Yes, I will deny myself, take up my cross and follow him. Does self-exaltation work together
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with self-denial? No, of course it doesn't. Look, the devil is not creative. He uses the same question
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today to tempt people as he did in the Garden of Eden, saying, did God really say? And the answer
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for the Christian should be, yes, he did. God really did say in Ephesians 4, 31 through 32,
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let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you along with all
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malice. Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another as God in Christ forgave you.
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God really did say in Galatians 3, 27 through 29, for as many of you as were baptized into Christ,
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have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek. There is neither slave nor free. There is no male
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nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ, then you are Abraham's
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offspring, heirs according to the promise. God did really say in 2 Corinthians 5, 17,
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therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed. Behold,
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the new has come. 1 Corinthians 13, 4 through 7, love is patient and kind. Love does not envy or boast.
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It is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way. It is not irritable or resentful.
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Yes, God really did give us the 10th commandment, which says, you shall not covet. You shall not
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covet your neighbor's house. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife or his male or female servant,
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his ox or his donkey or anything that belongs to your neighbor. Now, contrast that to what you read
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from James Cone, founder of Black Liberation Theology. Contrast that to what you hear on what
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you heard in that particular video on the stage of Sparrow. Contrast that to anyone who espouses these
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social justice, leftist liberation, intersectionality, critical race theory views. Are they biblical?
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Contrast all of that to the progressive talking points that we hear on a daily basis. Contrast that
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to the messages of these so-called social justicians that we are hearing from the pulpit of our
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evangelical churches. And here's a fun just side note to all of this, to bring the political into
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this. James Cone was also a big inspiration for Jeremiah Wright. You know Jeremiah Wright as the
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pastor famous for saying, not God bless America, but God blank America. He was also a great friend and
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influencer of Barack Obama. Barack Obama was extremely influenced by these Muslim and so-called
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Christian liberators, Cone and Wright included. We know that he has also been at least informally,
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I'm not making any accusations. We all take pictures that we wish that maybe we didn't take,
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but he has been associated at least informally with Louis Farrakhan. So Obama was deeply embedded
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in this religious Marxist ideology, in this class racial warfare. We saw it over the eight
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years of his presidency, this promulgation of identity politics, this victimhood narrative.
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So you want to know why in large part, besides just spiritual warfare, why in large part we are
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dealing with these tense conversations about race as if we are still in the 1960s segregated South,
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like all of a sudden, why we are talking about reparations now, 150 years later, which we weren't
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talking about in large part, not in the mainstream 10 years ago. You want, by the way, you can go listen to
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my conversation or the podcast on reparations and why they don't make any logical or just sense
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whatsoever in a previous podcast. But you want to know why we're having these conversations about
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marginalized groups and what they're owed? Because Marxism has representatives now in the church and
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in the mainstream church. And Marxism had a representative in Barack Obama. It is not because
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of Donald Trump. It is not because of this new rise in white supremacy. Now, I'm not saying that
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Donald Trump is the great reconciler. I'm not saying that he is the great savior here. You know
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that if you've heard any of my podcasts. I am not saying that white supremacy isn't a problem and
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isn't bad. Of course it is. I've also talked about why racism is a sin and why racism is hate. And you
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cannot love God and hate your brother. The Bible makes that very clear. And so I'm not saying those
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things are not a problem, but both of these things might be symptoms, but it did not start with
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Donald Trump. And that was not the source. A polarization in politics is a Pew research
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study that came out in 2017 that shows what Americans thought about racism against Black
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people in 2009 versus 2017. It asked the question, it said it was a statement whether you had to agree
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or disagree. Do you believe that personal responsibility is the reason why Black people
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haven't been able to get ahead? Most people in Republicans and Democrats in 2009 agreed with that,
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that it was a personal responsibility problem, not a systemic racism problem. 2017, those numbers
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changed dramatically, but only for Democrats, only for Democrats. The number of people in the
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Democratic Party who believe that it wasn't personal responsibility, but it was some kind of systemic
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racism completely changed from 2009 to 2017. Now, we should ask ourselves, did systemic racism
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really increase during the eight years that Barack Obama, our only Black president, was in office? I mean,
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that would be kind of crazy. How would that happen? Of course not. But their perception did because of
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the identity politics that became mainstream under Barack Obama. He vowed to be our reconciler. He
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vowed to bring us together, to bring us into a post-racial America. He could have done that. We were
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there. We were getting there. We were in a good spot. But now we've got this Marxism, this warfare,
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this resentment against race, against gender, against orientation, against everything coming into play.
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That's exactly what defines our politics today. It is not godly. It is not biblical. Any ideology,
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whether it's an Islamic ideology or a so-called Christian ideology founded in this kind of resentment
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is not of God. And anyone you hear espousing this stuff doesn't need to be listened to,
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has no theological credibility whatsoever, and we should pray for their heart that they would repent.
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That is not, as I've said before, to downplay real racism. As we have discussed, there are evil parts
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to our nation's history, just like every single nation's history since the dawn of time has had
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evil in its history. Jim Crow was terrible. Slavery, terrible. Japanese internment camps, terrible.
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Segregation, terrible, horrible, evil, dark parts of American history. But you know who fought
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the most against those things? You know who led the way in righting these wrongs? Christians. Not
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preaching critical race theory, not preaching liberation theology, but preaching the reconciling
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gospel of Jesus Christ. That's who led the way in righting these wrongs. Regardless of skin color,
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regardless of ethnicity, the idea that we are all sinners, all of us, not varying degrees,
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we are all sinners in need of saving and that we can be saved by Jesus Christ to become new creations,
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that changes everything that has always changed the game. And it still changes the game today. It's
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the only thing that changes the game for the better. I'll leave you with this. Matthew 7.15 says,
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Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.
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Sheep's clothing can mean a lot of things, but of course we know it means that it seems innocent.
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It seems good. And of course, we are supposed to enact justice on earth as Christians. Of course,
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we should care and work towards the justice of the least of these. We should care about these
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systemic injustices that do happen, like abortion, for example. We should care about all of these
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things. Jesus said, may your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. All of these things matter.
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But when we start mixing in ungodly, unbiblical ideologies with God's definition of justice that
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we see in the Bible, then you get a gospel that is no longer the gospel that Jesus Christ came to
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preach to us, but it is in fact, another gospel. If anyone preaches to you another gospel, let him
00:37:46.160
be an anathema. So that's how we have to treat this stuff. And I also just want to give another
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word of warning that we've given many times on this podcast for the pastors out there, for the
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teachers out there, for the influencers out there who think that they can just dip their toe in the
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pond of progressivism and say, okay, well, I'm just going to get on board with some of this,
00:38:06.120
some of this social justice stuff. I'm going to just going to get on board a little bit with the
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intersectionality, with their identity politics, with the critical race theory, with the white
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guilt, white privilege stuff. I'm just going to get on board with that because, you know, I'm white
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and I kind of feel bad for it. It doesn't work like that. Have you met a progressive? They do not
00:38:25.880
want just an inch. They don't want your polite concessions. They want your entire soul. They want all
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of it. That is why I say it is not possible to be a far left progressive and to be a Christian at the
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same time, because far left progressivism tells you the same thing that Christianity does, that you got
00:38:41.120
to deny yourself, take up your cross and follow progressivism. It doesn't want just a little bit
00:38:47.240
of your opinion. It doesn't want just a little bit of your agreement. It wants everything. So for
00:38:51.140
the pastors that say, well, sure, I'll just give in on this critical race theory stuff. I'll just give
00:38:55.560
in on the race stuff. I'll just buy into that. So I'm not seen as a bigot. Wait till they come for
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your views on marriage. Wait till they come for your views on gender. Wait till they come for your
00:39:05.980
views on abortion. Wait till they tell you that you have to perform a gay marriage. Are you still
00:39:11.780
going to partner with them then? When, where does it stop? Let us all, let us all, no matter our
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persuasion, let us all find the definition of justice, find the definition of how we should view race,
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find the definition of how we should view politics in the Bible. Let us let that be our objective
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standard. Let us not give in to either side, what conservatives say Christianity should be or what
00:39:36.940
the left should say Christianity should be. Let us not say, well, I have to be on this side of the
00:39:41.740
issue because I don't like Donald Trump. If that means compromising your biblical values, dude, that is
00:39:46.920
not worth it. So whenever, whenever I see a pastor or a teacher start talking in a way that is elevating
00:39:55.880
race as identity, that is elevating gender identity as who someone is, is elevating even just the
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vocabulary of marginalized and things like that. It always makes me just listen a little bit more.
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I'm not saying I completely turn off because I don't want the left to hijack all of our definitions,
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but I'm going to tune in to what they're saying to make sure that it lines up with scripture.
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So often, so often I see such theologically solid people give in on one or two of these issues and
00:40:26.820
then they've gone full on woke and you're like, what the heck happened to you, dude? What the heck
00:40:32.320
happened? The Bible didn't change, but you did because it became culturally convenient and cool to
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be this way. And that's not what Christians are called to be or called to do. So beware of false
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doctrines. See how they always end up, even Christian, ones that sound Christian, Christian
00:40:50.240
false doctrines, they end up sounding like other doctrines that are decidedly not Christian,
00:40:55.180
like nation of Islam. You hear that a lot. I know I'm continuing to go on and on, but you hear that
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a lot too with this, like, love yourself, you are enough, just positive vibes, feel your energy,
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Christianity. Well, that is also reflected in Eastern mysticism. So again, all false doctrines,
00:41:14.120
no matter what religion they are supposedly covered by, reflect secular ideologies. Black
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liberation theology is that way. And so is this me first, me, sinner, love myself, crystals rub on my
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forehead stuff. That is Eastern mysticism. So just a reminder, the Bible is our objective standard,
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not our feelings, not culture, not any kind of politician, but the word of God. That's all I
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have to say today. I hope that you guys have a great couple days and I will see you here on Wednesday.
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