Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 99 ｜ Black Liberation Theology, Nation of Islam & Marxism

00:00:00.000 Hey guys, what's up? Welcome to Relatable. If you are watching this on YouTube, which by the way,

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00:00:15.580 I recorded this episode and then I realized, okay, no, I want to re-record this episode because there

00:00:23.320 are some more things that I want to say. So I had to do it last minute. So I don't even have all my

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00:00:33.900 guys because there's just a lot that I want to say. And I didn't feel like I said it correctly in

00:00:39.900 the first recording. That's how much I love you guys. I hope that you guys know that I really want

00:00:46.940 to deliver to you guys the best possible content that I possibly can with all of the information

00:00:53.360 that I possibly can because we are tackling a pretty complex subject. We're going to talk about

00:00:57.740 black liberation theology, which we talked about a little bit last week, but we're going to talk

00:01:02.740 about some connections that it has to two other ideologies to the nation of Islam, as well as

00:01:08.760 to Marxism and the ties that all of them have. And then what that actually points to and what that

00:01:14.920 means for us as evangelical Christians who have been kind of watching the social justice left

00:01:20.700 infiltrate the church and how really godless views have made their way into evangelicalism

00:01:29.420 using the Trojan horse of social justice. So that's what we're going to talk about today.

00:01:34.020 It's a little bit complex, but I think that it will be extremely informational. And as always,

00:01:39.940 I will look forward to you guys' thoughts. You can always email me,

00:01:43.580 Allie, at the conservativemillennialblog.com. Last week, I was in LA and I got to sit down with

00:01:49.940 Dave Rubin, who is a wonderful person with a wonderful podcast. And we talked about marriage.

00:01:57.780 He, if you don't know, he is gay and he is married. And I talked about gay marriage from a Christian 0.90

00:02:04.300 perspective. So that's always a challenging conversation when you talk about views that

00:02:10.460 you know are going to be controversial. But Dave is so incredible at having respectful and

00:02:17.840 productive dialogue with people that he doesn't agree with. And that is getting extremely rare.

00:02:24.540 And because of that, it's also getting more and more valuable. We also talked about a whole host

00:02:29.940 of other things. We talked about AOC. We talked about Donald Trump and why he is still gaining

00:02:36.180 evangelical support despite kind of his personality and personal life that might seem to contradict that

00:02:42.140 in some ways. We talked about a lot of stuff. So make sure that you go to Dave Rubin's YouTube

00:02:47.440 channel and you can see that entire conversation there. Or you can listen on iTunes or wherever you

00:02:52.860 get your podcast to. The audio version is there as well. So before we get into this extremely complex

00:02:58.760 topic of Black liberation theology and the Marxism that it was really founded on, I do want to remind

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00:03:24.060 saw The Notebook. I don't think I stopped crying for three days. I mean, of course, I was 14 and I

00:03:29.060 probably shouldn't have seen it at that age. But I mean, I really felt like I was attached to Noah and

00:03:35.640 Allie, especially since my name is Allie. Why do you think I named my cat Rachel McAdams? It's

00:03:40.480 because I love The Notebook so much. Anyway, that doesn't really have that much to do with Unplanned,

00:03:45.120 except that the emotionalism of it, I shouldn't say emotionalism, the emotion that comes along

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00:03:56.460 the MFAA or the MPAA, and now I don't remember, but oh yeah, MPAA, it gave them an R

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00:04:31.140 story of Abby Johnson. She got two abortions herself and then she worked at Planned Parenthood.

00:04:36.180 She was staunchly pro-choice. Her husband, her mom could not convince her otherwise. She was so good

00:04:41.580 at what she did at Planned Parenthood that she actually rose to the ranks. She ended up directing

00:04:45.420 this Planned Parenthood clinic until one day she was called to actually assist in an abortion. 1.00

00:04:51.360 And she had never seen one before. It completely changed her perspective. And she knew that she was

00:04:56.680 never going to be the same again. And so this is her story. You've probably seen the controversy

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00:05:21.160 your friends. I know personally of a pro-choice person who went to see it, didn't know what an abortion

00:05:25.880 was, and was like, oh my gosh, that totally changes my perspective. And so it's having a big impact.

00:05:32.060 So make sure that you go to unplannedfilm.com. That is unplannedfilm.com. You can see where it's

00:05:38.320 playing near you. You are not going to leave the theater being the same person that you were when you

00:05:43.600 walked in. I can just guarantee you that. And I know that from personal experience. Okay. Now we are

00:05:49.380 going to get into what we are talking about. So last week, if you missed last Monday's topic,

00:05:53.980 we talked about Ekamini Uwan who spoke at the Sparrow conference. There was a lot of backlash

00:05:59.700 that came with the conversation that she had at Sparrow conference. Sparrow took her interview

00:06:05.600 down, but Ekamini was actually able to get her video footage back up. And so the interview is now

00:06:13.380 online. I had already seen the transcript, but seeing the video honestly didn't change anything

00:06:18.800 that I said last Monday. A bunch of you guys sent me the link, but the context, the full context that

00:06:23.920 I was given by the actual video really did nothing to detract from her words. I have done a lot of

00:06:29.500 research on her previous podcast episodes on her blog posts and the articles that were written about

00:06:34.500 this particular talk to be able to get a sense of what she actually believes. And last week we used

00:06:40.200 scripture to kind of take down the ideology that she says is centered on the gospel. And we came to

00:06:47.820 the conclusion through God's word that actually that is not the gospel. Now, my hope and my prayer

00:06:52.860 for Uwan and for anyone who espouses the ideology that she espouses is repentance, that she would

00:06:59.060 come to know the true freeing gospel of Christ that is not centered on this idea that whiteness is

00:07:05.060 wicked or that we need to divest from whiteness. Now, there has been a lot of drama back and forth

00:07:11.860 over the past week or so between this Sparrow conference and between Uwan Ekamini, or Ekamini Uwan,

00:07:17.600 who hired a lawyer and all of that. But I don't really want to get into all of that because

00:07:23.620 it makes me sad. It makes me sad that there's this kind of division. Now, I do hope, and I don't mean

00:07:29.560 this in a patronizing way at all. I say this as someone who believes that there are true believers

00:07:34.640 that run Sparrow conference, true believers that attended Sparrow conference. But I do hope that they

00:07:40.340 kind of realize, OK, this was a really bad consequence of choosing someone that was more

00:07:48.040 woke than they are theologically sound. I mean, Sparrow knew from what Uwan had done in the past

00:07:55.660 online that was very public, the exact type of views that she had and that she would articulate

00:08:02.040 when she got on stage. And so for them afterwards to say, oh, we're just going to take this down and

00:08:07.460 not really talk about it that much. I think that that was probably wrong. So I actually am on

00:08:13.140 Uwan's side. I'm not on his side, but I get her. I understand her frustration and everything we've

00:08:19.340 seen since then that she said the things that she has been saying for a really long time.

00:08:24.440 Now, that in and of itself is a problem, but she didn't go up there and shock anyone who put on

00:08:31.760 Sparrow by what she said, because these are views that she's been having for a long time. Now,

00:08:36.020 if you would like to know what I'm talking about, I would go to last week's episode,

00:08:41.440 Monday, Wayward Wokeness. We kind of break down her. We break down her views that she articulated

00:08:48.240 in the interview at Sparrow Conference, as well as one of her blog posts on systematictheology.com.

00:08:55.740 And we use scripture to, of course, back up our arguments there, as we always do. And if I do not

00:09:02.680 do that, if there is some discrepancy between what I am saying and what scripture says, I of course want

00:09:08.480 you to know I am much more concerned with being biblically sound in what I say and how I argue

00:09:15.500 my views than I am being right. And so if you come to me and have an argument with something that I say

00:09:21.540 that has to do with the Bible, just make sure that you do have scripture. When we have this conversation,

00:09:28.300 I get emails and I get tweets from people saying, hey, you said this and I don't like that, or I'm

00:09:36.180 offended by that, or that's wrong, but they don't have any scripture to back it up. And if what I said

00:09:42.680 is backed by scripture, then what you need to say is backed by script needs to be backed by scripture

00:09:47.520 too. So we can both understand that we are operating under the same objective standard, which is the word

00:09:52.920 of God, which is supreme over any of our opinions. Okay. So now let's talk about this black liberation

00:10:01.480 theology. I want to talk about what exactly it is because we discussed it a little bit last week,

00:10:07.580 but as I was digging more into it, I just found some really interesting commonalities with some

00:10:13.600 other ideologies that we would say is decidedly are decidedly not Christian. Now black liberation

00:10:20.160 theology is seen as a Christian theology. I actually had someone who follows me, reach out to me and

00:10:25.920 say, Hey, liberation theology, isn't bad. It's just more focused on praxis also on practice on

00:10:32.900 pragmatism than it is on spiritual things. It's not all bad. There are parts of it that are redeemable.

00:10:40.360 Well, I just don't think that that is true. If you actually know how black liberation theology 0.99

00:10:46.940 was founded and if you know what it's about. So liberation theology is actually something that

00:10:54.440 started, I believe it was the 19th century, not the 20th century, maybe the end of the 19th century

00:11:00.380 in Latin America by the Catholic church. And it might've started out as a good thing. Of course, 0.99

00:11:04.940 relieving people from oppression and fighting for justice is something that Christians are called to

00:11:09.700 do. That's kind of what it originally started as. Since then, the Catholic church has actually spoken out

00:11:15.480 in large part against liberation theology, because what it did is kind of, it lost sight of the

00:11:20.720 gospel and the spiritual needs of people and said, okay, we're just going to meet the material needs

00:11:25.060 of people. And how it tried to accomplish that in many ways was through big government policies.

00:11:30.200 Of course, that's what we see in a lot of the social liberalism or just a liberalism in general of

00:11:35.020 today. Well, black liberation theology, one of its founders was James H. Cone, and it took a lot of

00:11:41.480 inspiration from the liberation theology that started in the Catholic church in Latin America that,

00:11:47.140 like I said, many Catholics and many Catholic leaders later said, okay, no, that's not the way

00:11:51.780 to go. That's not an ideology that we are latching onto. Well, James H. Cone saw some good in it and

00:11:58.300 said, well, I want to take that and I want to apply it not just to America, but specifically

00:12:02.560 to black people in America. So the stated purpose of black liberation theology is to liberate

00:12:08.480 non-white people from multiple forms of political, social, economic, and religious subjugation.

00:12:13.640 James Cone says, it is a rational study of the being of God in the world, in light, in the world,

00:12:20.100 in light of the existential situation of an oppressed community relating the forces of liberation to the

00:12:25.800 essence of the gospel, which is Jesus Christ. Like I said, he is one of the founding advocates

00:12:31.780 of black liberation theology. Now, that might sound okay, but I want you to listen. I want you to

00:12:41.220 listen to the stated purpose of another section of faith or another ideology that I think we would

00:12:48.760 all agree, no matter our political persuasions, if we are Christians, that has nothing to do with

00:12:54.240 the God of the Bible. So the stated purpose of this particular ideology is to teach the downtrodden

00:13:01.940 and defenseless black people a thorough knowledge of God and of themselves, and to put them on the 1.00

00:13:07.060 road to self-independence with a superior culture and higher civilization than they had previously

00:13:12.460 experienced. It also is to improve the spiritual, mental, social, and economic condition of African

00:13:19.320 Americans in the United States and of all humanity. Those two statements of purpose are very similar,

00:13:25.840 black liberation theology and this particular ideology. The particular ideology that I just

00:13:31.620 quoted in the latter section of what I just said is of the nation of Islam. So that was a quote by

00:13:38.120 Fard Muhammad, who was the founder of the nation of Islam in the middle of the 20th century. And James

00:13:43.520 H. Cone actually took a lot of inspiration from the nation of Islam, took a lot of inspiration

00:13:49.080 later from Malcolm X and from the black power movement, of course, in the 1960s and 70s to form

00:13:56.280 this black liberation theology. So right away, it should tell us something that black liberation

00:14:01.040 theology is mirroring so closely in its language, the nation of Islam, which of course has been

00:14:06.840 accused of being a black supremacy group, which I think you could probably listen to the rhetoric of

00:14:11.100 its leaders and deduce that pretty easily. You also know nation of Islam because it is led by

00:14:16.920 Louis Farrakhan today, the guy who calls Jews satanic termites and who preaches about the exclusive 0.97

00:14:23.180 exaltation of black people or of non-white people. That is the common thread between black liberation 0.91

00:14:29.380 theology and the nation of Islam is the self-glorification or the glorification, the exaltation 1.00

00:14:35.420 of black people. That is what they see as their mission and as their gospel. The only difference is,

00:14:41.300 is that the nation of Islam uses, Muhammad uses Islam as their cover for that and black liberation 0.98

00:14:49.060 theology loosely uses Christianity for that. Now there is also a deeper connection here beyond the

00:14:56.780 stated purposes of nation of Islam and black liberation theology. As you know, Louis Farrakhan does

00:15:03.240 not like Jews. That's not a controversial statement. You can look that up online. He does not like Jews.

00:15:08.640 He calls them wicked. He calls them satanic. He refers to them in subhuman terms like termites. 1.00

00:15:14.820 You can watch any of Louis Farrakhan's. Again, this is the leader of Nation of Islam. 0.87

00:15:19.400 Anywhere online, he posts them himself. He posts them himself on his Twitter account. So really not

00:15:26.600 hard to find. James H. Cone, the original advocate of black liberation theology, he wrote a book called

00:15:32.580 black theology and black power in 1969. Here is what he had to say about Jewish people. Then the whole 0.97

00:15:39.720 world knows the Nazis murdered millions of Jews and could suspect that the remaining Jews are having

00:15:44.740 some emotional reaction to that fact. He says black people, on the other hand, are either ignored or 0.73

00:15:50.800 thought to be so subhuman that they have no feelings when one of their number is killed because he was a 0.99

00:15:55.440 black person. Probably no week goes by in the United States that some black person is not severely 1.00

00:16:00.220 beaten and the news is reported in the press. The surviving Jews had one big soul-wrenching 0.99

00:16:06.760 incident that wrenched them back to group identification. The surviving black people

00:16:10.880 experienced constant jolts that almost never let them forget for even an hour that they are black 0.93

00:16:17.340 people. So what we hear in there is something that is called Holocaust envy. What he is trying to say 0.69

00:16:25.640 is that black people have had it worse. He's saying, yeah, the Holocaust was bad, but black people still 0.98

00:16:31.660 have it bad. And so instead of James Cone just saying, hey, black people are being treated unfairly, 0.95

00:16:37.640 he brings Jews into it for no other reason than to stoke resentment. James Cone also says in his book,

00:16:45.120 this is away from away from the issue of antisemitism. He also says that a black person's

00:16:51.460 hatred of white people is not at all, quote, pathological, but quote, a healthy human reaction 0.51

00:16:56.760 to oppression, insult, and terror. He also says in the same book, to be Christian is to be one of those

00:17:03.580 whom God has chosen. God has chosen black people. That is James Cone, the founder of black liberation 0.76

00:17:10.420 theology. But let me be clear, if it's not already evident in the fact that black liberation theology

00:17:17.600 so closely mirrors nation of Islam, which we know is rooted in something that is not godly, that is not 1.00

00:17:24.060 biblical, and that is evil, let me be clear about this just with his own words. James Cone was not a

00:17:30.740 Christian. Here's a quote from him in 1997. I still regard Jesus Christ today as the chief focus of my

00:17:38.040 perspective on God, but not to the exclusion of other religious perspectives. God's reality is not bound by

00:17:45.620 one manifestation of the divine in Jesus, but can't be found wherever people are being empowered to

00:17:50.760 fight for freedom. Life giving power for the poor and the oppressed is the primary criterion that we

00:17:55.960 must use to judge the adequacy of our theology, not abstract concepts. As Malcolm X put it, I believe in

00:18:03.200 a religion that believes in freedom. Anytime I have to accept a religion that won't let me fight a battle 0.93

00:18:08.040 for my people, I say to hell with that religion. So, so what James Cone is saying in 1997, the founder of 0.97

00:18:14.620 Black Liberation Theology, who is still today hailed as a Christian hero, as a heroic theologian, he advocated

00:18:24.520 for the hatred of white people, resentment against Jews, and the inherent chosenness of black people, and

00:18:30.720 the validity of any faith that speaks of freedom. None of which, by the way, the Bible is saying this is a

00:18:39.280 qualification for the gospel. None of which, by the way, the Bible says, yes, this is what it means to

00:18:44.700 follow Jesus Christ. I mean, he completely denounces the exclusive reality of Christianity that says

00:18:52.100 that Jesus is the only way, the only truth, the only life, and that no one comes to the Father except

00:18:58.020 through him. What we see is that James Cone is much more concerned with the, quote, liberation of

00:19:03.900 those he sees as marginalized, which in this case is his own black community, rather than the salvation

00:19:08.900 of their souls. That, of course, is what we have always seen from the social gospel. That, of course,

00:19:14.360 is what we have always seen from liberation theology. That is, of course, what we always see today

00:19:19.560 when we hear this social justice gospel being played over and over again. They don't talk about the

00:19:26.540 salvation that is found in Christ. They don't talk about that in order for your soul to be saved,

00:19:31.900 in order to know true freedom, in order to know true liberation, that you have to know Christ,

00:19:36.920 that there is no liberation outside of that. What good does it do to a man to gain the whole world

00:19:44.560 and lose his soul? You don't hear them talking about that. They're much more concerned with their

00:19:48.500 politics than they are the power of the cross. But these are all of the things that black liberation

00:19:54.440 theology is founded on, that its founder espoused themselves. So how does this reflect what we talked

00:20:00.820 about last week at Kamini Uwan and her theology that she talked about at Sparrow Conference? And

00:20:06.360 again, this is not important because of this one particular person, because of Uwan. This is important

00:20:10.760 because it was at Sparrow Conference. And this is not just about Sparrow Conference. This is about

00:20:14.840 a mainstream conference in Dallas, Texas, with mainstream evangelical speakers speaking at this

00:20:22.740 conference, speakers who probably used to be considered at one point theologically conservative.

00:20:28.500 They are sharing a stage with, they are giving a platform to the kinds of people that have this

00:20:34.100 exact liberation theology. It is important for us to know that that is happening. So let's look at

00:20:41.020 how closely the views that were espoused at Sparrow and by Akamini Uwan and James Cone, this person who is

00:20:48.640 decidedly not a Christian based on any biblical foundation whatsoever, let's see how closely they

00:20:53.880 mirror each other in their views. So here's a quote from James Cone. The appearance of black theology 0.99

00:20:58.460 means that the black community is now ready to do something about the white Jesus. So he cannot get 0.98

00:21:04.060 in the way of our revolution. He goes on to say, we must quote, kill the white Jesus. Now let us read a 1.00

00:21:09.860 quote from Uwan from her blog. Do the minds and lives of these urban disciples reflect a baptism of

00:21:15.000 faith in the marginalized brown-skinned Palestinian? We talked about the problem with St. 0.98

00:21:19.640 Palestinian God, man, Jesus Christ. Or does their baptism reflect faith in a capitalist white Jesus 0.72

00:21:27.060 clothed in a polo blazer, khakis, and loafers? They are grave consequences for worshiping the latter,

00:21:33.240 which is no more than an idol and discipling people of color to do the same. Here's another quote by

00:21:38.280 Cone. Whiteness, as revealed in the history of America, is the expression of what is wrong with man. 0.73

00:21:44.340 It is a symbol of man's depravity, whiteness. God cannot be white, even though white churches have 1.00

00:21:51.400 portrayed him as white. When we look at what whiteness has done to the minds of men in this

00:21:56.280 country, we can clearly see what the New Testament meant when it spoke of the principalities and powers. 0.94

00:22:01.820 Ekamini Uwan, her quote is, whiteness is wicked. You need to divest from whiteness. So it should not

00:22:10.200 surprise us, since Black liberation theology is linked to the Black Power Movement, which advocated

00:22:17.940 for Black supremacy. It should not surprise us that we are seeing this kind of resentment. It is no

00:22:25.180 different. It's no different than what we see in all of the intersectionality in the oppression

00:22:30.840 Olympics of the left. Whoever is the most marginalized wins. The Nation of Islam and Black liberation

00:22:37.020 theology share in what we called a few weeks ago on this podcast is the gospel of grievance.

00:22:43.820 And you know what the gospel of grievance is closely linked to? Collectivism. Yes, Churchill called

00:22:50.640 socialism the gospel of envy because that is exactly what it is. These are all Marxist ideologies,

00:22:57.760 all liberation theologies. Nation of Islam, I would say, is a liberation theology. They're all

00:23:03.000 Marxist ideas. James Cone was a Marxist. Karl Marx, as we discussed last week, espoused these very same

00:23:10.660 views that we are seeing in the Nation of Islam and Black liberation theology, just without the 0.93

00:23:15.680 guise of religion and without the exclusive focus on Black people. It was the oppressed versus the

00:23:20.960 oppressor, the proletariat or the working class versus the bourgeoisie, the elite. The poor should hate 0.95

00:23:26.040 and envy the rich. It is this idea that those in power are evil because they have more than those

00:23:32.000 at the bottom. Socialists like Karl Marx and like today's AOC and Bernie Sanders espouse the same

00:23:39.200 views. That is why they demonize the so-called one percent. They demonize corporations. They demonize

00:23:44.800 the haves in favor of the have-nots or else they say that they do. And they demand that those who have

00:23:49.700 worked hard for their money must give almost all of it to the government to redistribute it as they see

00:23:54.520 fit. That is how Marx thought equality would happen. And that is how today's socialists think

00:23:59.600 equality and liberation will happen. But has that worked out? No, it hasn't. Has communism worked

00:24:05.880 out? By the way, people, I think I have a review on iTunes that, oh, this girl doesn't know the 0.95

00:24:11.320 difference in socialism and communism. Well, Vladimir Lenin himself said that communism is the end goal of

00:24:17.260 socialism. So don't tell me that they don't always go hand in hand. I mean, let's look at Soviet 0.94

00:24:22.300 Russia. Let's look at Nazi Germany. Let's look at communist China. Let's look at North Korea. Let's 0.82

00:24:27.040 look at Venezuela. Let's look at the hundreds of millions of people, 100 million people at least

00:24:32.260 who died in the 20th century because of collectivist regimes. Socialism does not work.

00:24:38.440 It's billed as this thing where you put power in the hands of the people. But socialism does not work

00:24:44.180 without concentrated central power. That is what happens when the government becomes the middleman

00:24:49.080 between our wealth, the people's wealth that they made themselves, and the poor. Our wealth,

00:24:53.340 it's funneled through the hands of bureaucrats to do with it as they see fit. A socialist tell you

00:24:58.180 that power is in the hands of the worker, power is the hands of the people, but it's not. That doesn't

00:25:03.200 even make any logical sense. In order to take the power out of the hands of people who make money,

00:25:09.600 you have to have a large central government that forces that wealth out of their hands.

00:25:15.480 And before you say, well, Scandinavian countries seem to have it figured out. Scandinavian countries

00:25:20.480 are not socialists. They have said that themselves. They are not socialists. They are welfare states,

00:25:24.780 meaning they have a very high tax rate. It's about a 60% tax rate in most Scandinavian countries,

00:25:30.220 and it's actually flat. We have a very progressive tax system, meaning that the more money you make,

00:25:36.100 the more you pay in taxes or the higher rates you pay in taxes. Well, the Scandinavian countries

00:25:41.760 basically almost all have a flat tax rate, but the means of production are still in the hands of

00:25:47.640 the people, not the government, which makes them not socialist countries. True socialism is Venezuela,

00:25:53.920 Soviet Russia, Nazi Germany. How did those turn out? Not too well. So here's another fun connection, 0.83

00:26:01.680 though, between Marxism, the nation of Islam, and black liberation theology. Here's Karl Marx in 1844

00:26:07.960 in his book, The Jewish Question. Quote, what is the secular basis of Judaism? Practical needs,

00:26:13.120 self-interest. What is the worldly religion of the Jew? Huckstering. What is his worldly God? Money. 0.99

00:26:18.640 Very well, then emancipation from huckstering and money, consequently from practical real Judaism, 0.98

00:26:23.620 would be the self-emancipation of our time. So here we see Karl Marx perpetuating yet another trope

00:26:29.920 that we have seen in these other ideologies that Jews are controlling the world, that they really have 1.00

00:26:35.180 it okay. Karl Marx seems to be perpetuating this thing that Jews control the banks, that kind of 0.65

00:26:42.460 conspiracy theory that has hurt Jewish people and has perpetuated anti-Semitism for a long time. So

00:26:47.960 it's just interesting that anti-Semitism and resentment against Jews is a common threat here.

00:26:52.780 It's just interesting. All James Cone of the black liberation theology did is take the liberation

00:26:59.600 theology of Latin America united with the black power ideology and the nation of Islam, and there you 0.63

00:27:05.880 have black liberation theology that's espoused by people that are still in the pulpits preaching it

00:27:11.840 today, despite the fact that James Cone wasn't a Christian, despite the fact that it mirrors ideologies

00:27:16.440 that have nothing to do with Christianity, despite the fact that it is rooted in Marxism, which has been

00:27:22.240 responsible for the suffering and the slaughtering of people throughout history since its birth.

00:27:30.000 So once we have this context, nothing that we hear a black liberation theology people preaching

00:27:36.060 is surprising anymore. That Achaemeni Uwan and others call whiteness wicked. Cone condoned the hatred of 0.96

00:27:45.080 white people, that they say white people need to divest from whiteness. They use terms that we 0.83

00:27:52.240 hear a lot on the left that women need to rid themselves of the patriarchy. This is the stuff of 1.00

00:27:57.060 liberation theology of Marxism. So it should be no surprise that many of these on the social justice

00:28:03.680 left are insistent upon calling Jesus a Palestinian instead of a Jew. We talked about why that was

00:28:11.540 historically incorrect last week. It should not surprise us that they are willing to link arms with

00:28:17.640 people who espouse views that have nothing to do with the Bible whatsoever. As long as they perpetuate 0.99

00:28:24.540 what they would call it the pragmatic manifestation of the gospel, it's really nothing more than

00:28:32.440 collectivism that has been tried and tried and tried and has failed over and over again. And the fact

00:28:38.800 that the black liberation theology parallels so closely the nation of Islam, it just shows us that it truly is 0.79

00:28:44.780 a false teaching, how non-Christian and how unbiblical it is because they are both rooted in sin. They're 0.99

00:28:50.280 both rooted in grievance. They are both rooted in resentment. One just calls on Muhammad. One calls on 0.97

00:28:55.320 Jesus. They are both rooted in self-exaltation. They are both rooted in self-glorification. You see that

00:29:00.700 in the attitudes of the people who hold to these views. Self-exaltation, self-glorification, saying,

00:29:07.780 no one can stop me. I'm on top of the world. I'm invincible. Is that the attitude of someone that is

00:29:14.880 humbly following Christ who has taken Christ at his word, who has said, yes, I will come and die.

00:29:20.880 Yes, I will deny myself, take up my cross and follow him. Does self-exaltation work together

00:29:26.500 with self-denial? No, of course it doesn't. Look, the devil is not creative. He uses the same question

00:29:33.400 today to tempt people as he did in the Garden of Eden, saying, did God really say? And the answer

00:29:39.900 for the Christian should be, yes, he did. God really did say in Ephesians 4, 31 through 32,

00:29:45.560 let all bitterness and wrath and anger and clamor and slander be put away from you along with all

00:29:50.640 malice. Be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another as God in Christ forgave you.

00:29:56.220 God really did say in Galatians 3, 27 through 29, for as many of you as were baptized into Christ,

00:30:02.880 have put on Christ. There is neither Jew nor Greek. There is neither slave nor free. There is no male 0.95

00:30:07.900 nor female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. And if you are Christ, then you are Abraham's 0.61

00:30:14.520 offspring, heirs according to the promise. God did really say in 2 Corinthians 5, 17,

00:30:20.960 therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation. The old has passed. Behold,

00:30:25.360 the new has come. 1 Corinthians 13, 4 through 7, love is patient and kind. Love does not envy or boast.

00:30:32.300 It is not arrogant or rude. It does not insist on its own way. It is not irritable or resentful.

00:30:38.740 Yes, God really did give us the 10th commandment, which says, you shall not covet. You shall not

00:30:44.140 covet your neighbor's house. You shall not covet your neighbor's wife or his male or female servant,

00:30:50.240 his ox or his donkey or anything that belongs to your neighbor. Now, contrast that to what you read

00:30:57.800 from James Cone, founder of Black Liberation Theology. Contrast that to what you hear on what

00:31:04.540 you heard in that particular video on the stage of Sparrow. Contrast that to anyone who espouses these

00:31:10.020 social justice, leftist liberation, intersectionality, critical race theory views. Are they biblical?

00:31:18.620 Contrast all of that to the progressive talking points that we hear on a daily basis. Contrast that

00:31:23.040 to the messages of these so-called social justicians that we are hearing from the pulpit of our

00:31:29.200 evangelical churches. And here's a fun just side note to all of this, to bring the political into

00:31:37.140 this. James Cone was also a big inspiration for Jeremiah Wright. You know Jeremiah Wright as the

00:31:43.960 pastor famous for saying, not God bless America, but God blank America. He was also a great friend and

00:31:51.540 influencer of Barack Obama. Barack Obama was extremely influenced by these Muslim and so-called 1.00

00:31:58.720 Christian liberators, Cone and Wright included. We know that he has also been at least informally,

00:32:04.320 I'm not making any accusations. We all take pictures that we wish that maybe we didn't take,

00:32:10.320 but he has been associated at least informally with Louis Farrakhan. So Obama was deeply embedded

00:32:15.140 in this religious Marxist ideology, in this class racial warfare. We saw it over the eight 0.98

00:32:21.380 years of his presidency, this promulgation of identity politics, this victimhood narrative.

00:32:26.180 So you want to know why in large part, besides just spiritual warfare, why in large part we are

00:32:31.980 dealing with these tense conversations about race as if we are still in the 1960s segregated South,

00:32:37.500 like all of a sudden, why we are talking about reparations now, 150 years later, which we weren't

00:32:44.260 talking about in large part, not in the mainstream 10 years ago. You want, by the way, you can go listen to

00:32:49.880 my conversation or the podcast on reparations and why they don't make any logical or just sense

00:32:55.060 whatsoever in a previous podcast. But you want to know why we're having these conversations about

00:32:59.100 marginalized groups and what they're owed? Because Marxism has representatives now in the church and

00:33:05.280 in the mainstream church. And Marxism had a representative in Barack Obama. It is not because

00:33:12.240 of Donald Trump. It is not because of this new rise in white supremacy. Now, I'm not saying that

00:33:17.740 Donald Trump is the great reconciler. I'm not saying that he is the great savior here. You know

00:33:21.920 that if you've heard any of my podcasts. I am not saying that white supremacy isn't a problem and 0.96

00:33:27.320 isn't bad. Of course it is. I've also talked about why racism is a sin and why racism is hate. And you

00:33:33.260 cannot love God and hate your brother. The Bible makes that very clear. And so I'm not saying those

00:33:37.700 things are not a problem, but both of these things might be symptoms, but it did not start with

00:33:44.340 Donald Trump. And that was not the source. A polarization in politics is a Pew research

00:33:50.260 study that came out in 2017 that shows what Americans thought about racism against Black

00:33:55.080 people in 2009 versus 2017. It asked the question, it said it was a statement whether you had to agree

00:34:00.640 or disagree. Do you believe that personal responsibility is the reason why Black people 1.00

00:34:05.380 haven't been able to get ahead? Most people in Republicans and Democrats in 2009 agreed with that,

00:34:11.180 that it was a personal responsibility problem, not a systemic racism problem. 2017, those numbers

00:34:16.240 changed dramatically, but only for Democrats, only for Democrats. The number of people in the

00:34:22.200 Democratic Party who believe that it wasn't personal responsibility, but it was some kind of systemic

00:34:27.060 racism completely changed from 2009 to 2017. Now, we should ask ourselves, did systemic racism

00:34:33.940 really increase during the eight years that Barack Obama, our only Black president, was in office? I mean,

00:34:40.580 that would be kind of crazy. How would that happen? Of course not. But their perception did because of

00:34:44.580 the identity politics that became mainstream under Barack Obama. He vowed to be our reconciler. He

00:34:50.140 vowed to bring us together, to bring us into a post-racial America. He could have done that. We were 0.81

00:34:54.580 there. We were getting there. We were in a good spot. But now we've got this Marxism, this warfare,

00:35:01.480 this resentment against race, against gender, against orientation, against everything coming into play.

00:35:07.420 That's exactly what defines our politics today. It is not godly. It is not biblical. Any ideology,

00:35:14.160 whether it's an Islamic ideology or a so-called Christian ideology founded in this kind of resentment

00:35:19.500 is not of God. And anyone you hear espousing this stuff doesn't need to be listened to,

00:35:25.380 has no theological credibility whatsoever, and we should pray for their heart that they would repent.

00:35:30.040 That is not, as I've said before, to downplay real racism. As we have discussed, there are evil parts

00:35:39.720 to our nation's history, just like every single nation's history since the dawn of time has had

00:35:44.760 evil in its history. Jim Crow was terrible. Slavery, terrible. Japanese internment camps, terrible. 0.89

00:35:52.920 Segregation, terrible, horrible, evil, dark parts of American history. But you know who fought 1.00

00:36:00.240 the most against those things? You know who led the way in righting these wrongs? Christians. Not 0.99

00:36:07.580 preaching critical race theory, not preaching liberation theology, but preaching the reconciling

00:36:13.520 gospel of Jesus Christ. That's who led the way in righting these wrongs. Regardless of skin color,

00:36:20.260 regardless of ethnicity, the idea that we are all sinners, all of us, not varying degrees,

00:36:27.360 we are all sinners in need of saving and that we can be saved by Jesus Christ to become new creations,

00:36:34.220 that changes everything that has always changed the game. And it still changes the game today. It's

00:36:38.920 the only thing that changes the game for the better. I'll leave you with this. Matthew 7.15 says,

00:36:45.600 Beware of false prophets who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly are ravenous wolves.

00:36:55.100 Sheep's clothing can mean a lot of things, but of course we know it means that it seems innocent.

00:37:00.700 It seems good. And of course, we are supposed to enact justice on earth as Christians. Of course,

00:37:07.280 we should care and work towards the justice of the least of these. We should care about these

00:37:13.860 systemic injustices that do happen, like abortion, for example. We should care about all of these

00:37:18.860 things. Jesus said, may your will be done on earth as it is in heaven. All of these things matter.

00:37:26.520 But when we start mixing in ungodly, unbiblical ideologies with God's definition of justice that 0.91

00:37:33.800 we see in the Bible, then you get a gospel that is no longer the gospel that Jesus Christ came to

00:37:40.400 preach to us, but it is in fact, another gospel. If anyone preaches to you another gospel, let him

00:37:46.160 be an anathema. So that's how we have to treat this stuff. And I also just want to give another

00:37:51.620 word of warning that we've given many times on this podcast for the pastors out there, for the

00:37:56.160 teachers out there, for the influencers out there who think that they can just dip their toe in the

00:38:01.080 pond of progressivism and say, okay, well, I'm just going to get on board with some of this,

00:38:06.120 some of this social justice stuff. I'm going to just going to get on board a little bit with the

00:38:09.960 intersectionality, with their identity politics, with the critical race theory, with the white

00:38:14.880 guilt, white privilege stuff. I'm just going to get on board with that because, you know, I'm white

00:38:18.860 and I kind of feel bad for it. It doesn't work like that. Have you met a progressive? They do not

00:38:25.880 want just an inch. They don't want your polite concessions. They want your entire soul. They want all

00:38:30.860 of it. That is why I say it is not possible to be a far left progressive and to be a Christian at the

00:38:36.380 same time, because far left progressivism tells you the same thing that Christianity does, that you got

00:38:41.120 to deny yourself, take up your cross and follow progressivism. It doesn't want just a little bit

00:38:47.240 of your opinion. It doesn't want just a little bit of your agreement. It wants everything. So for

00:38:51.140 the pastors that say, well, sure, I'll just give in on this critical race theory stuff. I'll just give

00:38:55.560 in on the race stuff. I'll just buy into that. So I'm not seen as a bigot. Wait till they come for

00:39:01.620 your views on marriage. Wait till they come for your views on gender. Wait till they come for your 0.93

00:39:05.980 views on abortion. Wait till they tell you that you have to perform a gay marriage. Are you still 1.00

00:39:11.780 going to partner with them then? When, where does it stop? Let us all, let us all, no matter our

00:39:17.980 persuasion, let us all find the definition of justice, find the definition of how we should view race,

00:39:23.600 find the definition of how we should view politics in the Bible. Let us let that be our objective

00:39:30.020 standard. Let us not give in to either side, what conservatives say Christianity should be or what

00:39:36.940 the left should say Christianity should be. Let us not say, well, I have to be on this side of the 0.98

00:39:41.740 issue because I don't like Donald Trump. If that means compromising your biblical values, dude, that is

00:39:46.920 not worth it. So whenever, whenever I see a pastor or a teacher start talking in a way that is elevating

00:39:55.880 race as identity, that is elevating gender identity as who someone is, is elevating even just the

00:40:03.660 vocabulary of marginalized and things like that. It always makes me just listen a little bit more.

00:40:11.260 I'm not saying I completely turn off because I don't want the left to hijack all of our definitions,

00:40:15.700 but I'm going to tune in to what they're saying to make sure that it lines up with scripture.

00:40:20.660 So often, so often I see such theologically solid people give in on one or two of these issues and

00:40:26.820 then they've gone full on woke and you're like, what the heck happened to you, dude? What the heck

00:40:32.320 happened? The Bible didn't change, but you did because it became culturally convenient and cool to

00:40:37.620 be this way. And that's not what Christians are called to be or called to do. So beware of false

00:40:44.000 doctrines. See how they always end up, even Christian, ones that sound Christian, Christian 0.62

00:40:50.240 false doctrines, they end up sounding like other doctrines that are decidedly not Christian,

00:40:55.180 like nation of Islam. You hear that a lot. I know I'm continuing to go on and on, but you hear that

00:41:00.960 a lot too with this, like, love yourself, you are enough, just positive vibes, feel your energy,

00:41:07.100 Christianity. Well, that is also reflected in Eastern mysticism. So again, all false doctrines,

00:41:14.120 no matter what religion they are supposedly covered by, reflect secular ideologies. Black 0.97

00:41:20.620 liberation theology is that way. And so is this me first, me, sinner, love myself, crystals rub on my

00:41:27.340 forehead stuff. That is Eastern mysticism. So just a reminder, the Bible is our objective standard,

00:41:33.440 not our feelings, not culture, not any kind of politician, but the word of God. That's all I

00:41:39.980 have to say today. I hope that you guys have a great couple days and I will see you here on Wednesday.

Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - April 15, 2019

Ep 99 ｜ Black Liberation Theology, Nation of Islam & Marxism

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