On this week's episode of Relatable, Allie is joined by Jason Whitlock to talk about Taylor Swift's new merch, P. Diddy's new porn studio, Kanye West's sex trafficking charges, and much, much more!
00:00:00.780Kanye West has announced that he is launching a porn studio.
00:00:06.480What in the world happened to him after he announced that he had become a born-again Christian just a few years ago?
00:00:13.880And what is going on in the music industry in general with the outright blasphemy and sacrilege that we are seeing from so many artists these days?
00:00:24.540As well as what's going on with artists like P. Diddy and the sex trafficking charges.
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00:02:35.500Let me defend myself there because I know we've got strong, strong feelings about Taylor Swift.
00:02:41.240As I saw earlier this week in the episode that we put out talking about some of her blasphemous lyrics and some of the comments that I received on YouTube.
00:03:22.120And you know how I know it existed before Taylor Swift, because I was writing the book that I am about to release this fall that I'm about to announce in just a couple of weeks back in 2022.
00:03:35.220And in the introduction to that, I say something along the lines of this person was in their blank era.
00:05:04.360We would not be doing the show if we didn't have so many of you who watch so faithfully and pray for us and send me positive messages.
00:05:11.520And when I see you in person, just your incredible stories of how the show has impacted you or how you've connected to a guest on the show, it's just incredible.
00:05:30.580But that seemed to communicate an unrealistic expectation and desire by some of you who think that your favorite commentators or hosts need to agree with you 100% of the time and need to get it right 100% of the time.
00:05:49.020And you expect, it seems like me or maybe whoever you listen to, to cover every single nook and cranny of every single issue exactly as you would or exactly as you expect or want us to or in a way that is in total alignment with what you think about everything.
00:06:12.040Look, I am never going to be able to do that.
00:06:15.020I'm never going to be able to do that.
00:06:16.580I am going to fail to meet all of your expectations.
00:06:19.900I am going to fail at times to meet all of your standards.
00:06:25.320I'm going to say things not on purpose, but that just happen to offend you.
00:06:31.080I am going to say something that doesn't apply to you.
00:06:34.660I'm going to say something that you flat out hate and don't like.
00:06:38.700That's just going to happen because we are individuals.
00:06:41.260I am a finite, fallible human being who makes mistakes, who doesn't always get it right, but again, just sometimes doesn't see things the way that you do.
00:06:50.880You do not have to announce to me in a comment, a message, whatever it is that, oh my gosh, she's completely lost everything.
00:07:01.100This podcast is just not what I thought it was and I'm not going to listen or I'm not going to watch anymore.
00:07:07.320I don't care about, she's, you know, she attacks this or she blah, blah, blah.
00:07:12.000Just because we don't see eye to eye on something or you don't like how I said something, it's, I'm sorry, it's not a blight on my entire character.
00:07:21.480Um, it's okay if you want to stop watching or stop listening because of that, you don't have to announce your departure.
00:07:29.240You can, if you want to, but I think that you also have in your mind that that means that everyone feels the same way that you do and they just don't.
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00:11:07.700Like you, I was bold and hopeful that Kanye was, he's in a wrestling match with fame, which is, in my view, the most powerful drug on the planet in America.
00:11:32.020And this is, it's a very disappointing story.
00:11:37.000And it's, you know, I had relatively high hopes for Kanye and, you know, saluted him in his battle with fame and battle with all the things that Hollywood pours into young people and trying to get that out.
00:12:28.520So this is how the Daily Mail is reporting this.
00:12:32.820He previously expressed regret a few years ago.
00:12:36.040I remember this, that he had watched pornography so often over the years.
00:12:40.700He claimed that porn had, quote, destroyed his family.
00:12:44.520He even had a conversation with his staff at the time, who I think was working on the Jesus is King album, that, hey, I don't want you having premarital sex.
00:12:53.860I don't want you engaging in sexual immorality.
00:12:56.660That seemed like something that was really important to him at the time.
00:13:00.400And now he's obviously, as we said, announcing this adult entertainment branch to his Yeezy empire.
00:13:07.240He is sad to be communicating with adult film producer Mike Maas, who used to be married to Stormy Daniels, in hopes that Mike will run his studio.
00:13:15.700Although Kanye has purportedly been considering entering the porn industry for some time, he is now said to be in serious negotiations to start a studio.
00:13:23.700Wednesday evening, Kanye posted the announcement from his official X account.
00:13:36.920And I just see this, yes, as a battle with fame, absolutely.
00:13:41.360But to me, it's obvious that it's spiritual warfare here.
00:13:45.640I mean, we can't understand, we can't discern his heart and whether his, you know, what parts of his transformation a few years ago were sincere or just performative.
00:13:57.360But, I mean, the gospel was being proclaimed through his music, through some of his Sunday services.
00:14:38.820And, you know, in order to win the battle he was trying to fight, he would have had to separate himself from the commercial music industry and all the demonic energy that's within the music industry.
00:14:55.660He would have had to separate himself.
00:14:57.480And it's no different from the reasons I moved away from Los Angeles and moved to Nashville.
00:15:04.720You know, I just could not accomplish the things that I wanted to accomplish personally and spiritually in Los Angeles.
00:15:12.480And so I had to move to safer territory and a place where, you know, it's my thoughts, my worldview isn't so foreign.
00:15:23.740Kanye hasn't taken any of those steps.
00:15:25.920And so we shouldn't be all that surprised that he has fallen.
00:15:30.140Yeah. You know, I know a lot of people at the time were very loudly skeptical about his announcement that he had become a Christian and his Sunday services.
00:15:40.860And, yes, even within that time, he said some things, did some things that I didn't agree with.
00:15:46.820For example, I'm not a fan of Joel Osteen.
00:15:49.120He had kind of hoisted up Joel Osteen and said some things that kind of made me scratch my head.
00:15:53.600But I was I was still excited about it.
00:15:56.640I was still excited that some way someone like Kanye West would release an album called Jesus is King.
00:16:01.820And I would say that the theology in some of those songs like was really solid.
00:16:05.980And so I don't know, I don't I don't regret being excited about that at the time.
00:16:11.580I don't regret talking about it and cheering it on.
00:16:16.200Christians are sometimes when someone like that publicly changes their ways or seems to change their ways.
00:16:24.920They're too quick to be loudly skeptical and critical of that.
00:16:29.520Don't you think that there is some kind of balance between, OK, being discerning and being cautious and also just being outright like the older brother in the prodigal son story?
00:16:41.200Listen, I'm not going to apologize for being excited and hopeful for Kanye West because that excitement and hope is built around like there's Ali, I'm much older than you.
00:16:55.500But so I can tell you that the whole make America great again.
00:17:02.120The culture used to be more supportive of a biblical worldview.
00:17:05.940And so when I saw Kanye, Jesus is king and just professing a faith and a belief in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, I was like, oh, man, maybe this will help the culture return to a tiny bit more supportive of those of us with biblical values.
00:17:25.560Because I think that's important for young people, you know, when I stepped out as a 12 year old kid or a 14 year old kid into the world as a Christian, I wasn't met with the level of hostility that I think Christians are now.
00:17:42.500That, you know, that, you know, our beliefs just weren't mocked the way they're mocked now.
00:17:47.820And I'm not going to apologize for wanting to see some of that reversed and thinking that, oh, man, if Kanye makes it cool for kids to profess their Christian faith, you know, maybe we'll see one or two or 3,000 less drag queens at schools or wherever.
00:18:10.860And so I'm just, I'm not embarrassed that he's fallen.
00:18:19.140But I'm actually glad that he at least attempted and is attempting to get in the fight.
00:18:29.800Now, obviously, at this point with the porn deal, it's so clear that he loves money and he regrets the money he lost in his feud with Adidas.
00:18:41.780And so he's willing to do anything to make money, including porn.
00:18:48.320And, you know, I will not be really taking Kanye serious or talking about him publicly.
00:18:57.980Again, I'll be more skeptical the next time he says, I'm really doing it this time.
00:19:03.480But apologies or embarrassed because I was supportive and hopeful.
00:19:09.120You know, I'm hoping people are, you know, praying for me and hoping that, you know, I continue to win my fights.
00:19:18.320First Timothy 610 comes to mind as you're talking about this love of money.
00:19:22.720For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils.
00:19:27.900It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced to themselves with many pangs.
00:19:36.160And that is, as you said, the love of money, whether it manifests itself in someone's life as pursuing the porn industry or whether it's greed or whether it's gambling or whether it's just making shady business deals.
00:19:50.080The love of money is a temptation for everyone to lead us into all kinds of sin and temptation.
00:19:59.100And I think that's part of why Jesus tells this radical message, do not worry, do not fear, do not be anxious.
00:20:07.120If you look at the lilies of the field, they're dressed perfectly.
00:20:40.620I think, again, in recent days, he's called himself a God again.
00:20:44.340When a man or woman comes into great financial wealth, the way this world is rigged, it can trigger you to think that you're a God.
00:20:55.000Now, you would never say it to yourself like Kanye has or said it out loud, but it can trigger a mindset.
00:21:01.300I can, you know, someone like me whose dad didn't graduate high school and mom was a career factory worker, and I come from a modest background.
00:21:11.700And so I can remember in 1994, you know, at the age of 27, I think I started making $125,000 a year.
00:21:22.600And I didn't think anybody could tell me anything.
00:21:26.800And I did, I, you know, I was in position where I was able to do things for my mother and family.
00:21:33.200And I can remember my ego just getting completely out of control and feel like, well, you know what, I got enough money to solve all of my problems.
00:21:43.500And then as things escalated and I really started making money, that mindset really took over and God had to humble me and say, no, brother, you, you, you definitely ain't me.
00:21:58.000You know, and, and, and Kanye will all get humbled at some point when Kanye's humility comes, who knows, it may not come until the very end.
00:22:10.180But I can understand, and there's like a, there's such a perfectness to God's plan.
00:22:20.200And there's a reason why to take someone like me who's not been married and that's a mistake.
00:22:25.260And I talk about how, what a foolish mindset I had when I was younger, but, but like, if you are given great wealth, you need a wife and many kids so that you don't have just all of this discretionary income and no system of checks and balances, a wife that will, Hey baby, what are you doing with that money?
00:22:45.380You know, we got kids to put through college and things like that.
00:22:48.600You need that balance. And, and so Kanye's life, now he's married again, but again, he's not, I don't know if they're equally yoked and that, you know, he's not in a traditional marriage clearly.
00:23:00.080And, and, you know, he, you know, someone like Kanye should probably have a wife of 15 kids and he'd know what to do with his money and he'd have a real purpose for it rather than, Hey, let me build a studio for porn and the exploitation of women.
00:23:14.020But his life's out of balance and many of our lives are out of balance in, in similar ways.
00:23:21.400You're so right about God's plan, just being perfect and being good for us.
00:23:25.760I mean, in this day and age, and this has probably been true throughout history.
00:23:28.980Actually, you could argue that it's been true since the garden, like viewing God's rules as something that's trying to dampen our happiness or to hurt us in some way.
00:23:38.780But when you look at, for example, the institution of marriage that God created in Genesis, you see that it is protective for everyone.
00:23:46.600It's protective for women who are most vulnerable to abuse.
00:23:49.740It's protective for children who are most vulnerable to abandonment and vulnerable because they are just mentally and physically weak.
00:24:00.260And then it's protective for men who have, you know, more aggression and sexual drive and testosterone that would push them outside of, you know, the power that the Holy Spirit gives to sow their wild oats and to channel their aggression in very unhealthy ways.
00:24:23.500And yet this institution of marriage and monogamy and a man and a woman becoming one flesh, raising children together, raising a home together, building a life together.
00:24:33.740That is what changes behavior and protects men from themselves, protects women from predatory men, protects children from predatory adults.
00:24:46.760And so it really is God's plans really are so perfect.
00:24:49.780And when you go outside of that and we live in a fallen world, not everyone is going to be able to get married.
00:24:57.080But you do see the consequences of that, especially when we don't prize those things as a society in general.
00:25:06.300And, you know, in retrospect, you know, particularly someone like myself who lived in Los Angeles for 10 years, was involved in corporate TV for as long as I was and had access to and were around a lot of celebrities.
00:25:26.640Kanye's fall is actually very predictable and probably expected.
00:25:32.120He's, you know, he's, you know, been famous for so long, been in love with money.
00:25:38.840If you listen to a lot of his music, there's the worship of money and showing off your wealth and all that stuff within the music.
00:25:47.460And again, he's he's pouring so much poison into his soul that it's it's really hard to flush all that out.
00:25:56.800And it's as someone who grew up a rap music fan and has since deleted all rap music from my Apple playlist and Apple library or whatever.
00:26:09.720And now I just pour gospel music and just trying to flush out music is just so important and people don't understand it.
00:26:18.180And I how it changes your soul, changes your mindset, leave such an indelible imprint that there's nothing else that can make you recall memories from 20, 15 years ago.
00:26:33.760So like music, it's it's such a powerful tool. And unfortunately, it feels like Satan has control of that tool.
00:26:41.080Yeah, I want to talk more about that. And obviously, the there are problems with rap, there are problems with all genres of secular music, which is what I want to discuss.
00:26:50.880But you're not really allowed to say, which you are really good at saying things that you're not allowed to say, but you're not allowed to say that may be a genre of music that is constantly glorifying and commercializing murder, drugs, any form of promiscuity and delinquency.
00:27:13.080All forms of premarital sex, violence, entitlement, greed, money, like you're not allowed to say that maybe that has a negative impact on the people listening to it.
00:27:26.320Maybe it negatively has influenced a particular culture in the United States.
00:27:31.840You're supposed to just say, no, this is just an equally beautiful form of art as Beethoven or Bach or anything else.
00:27:39.340It's just as edifying, just as encouraging as any other form of music.
00:27:43.500Like you're not allowed to say in the same way that some, I don't know, I guess maybe like white women would say, oh, there's nothing wrong with Taylor Swift being blasphemous in her music.
00:27:54.040It's just music. It's not a big deal. It's not doing anything in my mind or life.
00:27:58.820And I think you're right. I think that's how Satan actually tricks us.
00:28:03.260We just see music and entertainment as totally neutral and having no effect on our mind or lives or families or culture.
00:28:12.360It's a very silly point of view that somehow we could pour those thoughts into our head, learn the lyrics to that, be able to repeat the lyrics to that, have young children repeat the lyrics to this stuff.
00:28:29.000And oh, but it has no impact. And people want to say, well, it's just like a movie.
00:28:33.420It's a fantasy. And no, it's not like a movie because you can't repeat all the words in a movie.
00:28:42.300You may be able to repeat a scene or two, but a movie just doesn't leave the kind of imprint on you.
00:28:48.020And music does. And we have to accept that.
00:28:51.520And so there's a very nuanced conversation that we can't have about music and particularly rap music.
00:28:59.240And it's a lot like, I'm pretty sure, Ali, don't you consistently point out like, hmm, pit bulls, just attack someone.
00:29:09.040Maybe there's something unique about pit bulls.
00:29:43.260Okay. What is your take? Speaking of rap and hip hop, I didn't even plan to talk about this, but we haven't talked about it on this show.
00:29:56.620Everything that's happening with P Diddy right now.
00:30:01.080I know it's a big, I know it's a big subject.
00:30:04.000Yeah. Uh, well, I will say this to your audience. I did two, two, two and a half hour shows just on Diddy.
00:30:16.220Okay. So people can go and listen to those for your full analysis. So basically he's being caught. What? Uh, it's a sex trafficking allegations, right?
00:30:24.800Sex trafficking, uh, sexual exploitation, compromising, you know, uh, compromising information on people. He had cameras all throughout his house, but where I really went and it's, it'll be hard to unpack in just a small segment here.
00:30:43.200But I tried to get people to understand like that rap music is part of a movement to make our culture globally more nihilistic. If you listen to the music, they're trying to remove us from moral and godly and faith-based principles.
00:31:05.580And, and, and if you look at it, it's, it's happening in movies, it's happening in everything, but rap music is one of the leaders of this. And so part of what I unpacked is like, Hey, look, the same people that own the most stock in, uh, BET, MTV, all the major music labels, they also own the most stock in the private prison industry.
00:31:32.520And so there's part of it is just like, Hey, let's feed the bees. Let's, uh, make more need for private prisons and let's criminalize the culture and mentality of Americans so that they get fed into this system.
00:31:46.420But the, and so there's that financial element, but the real thing, the globalists, the people that think the planet is overpopulated, the people that, that are trying to bait us into a world war so that they can reduce the population.
00:32:04.900They want us to have a nihilistic mentality where we don't care about life. Our life has no purpose. We're removed from religious faith and moral principles. And that's how you get people in a mindset.
00:32:19.000And I'll try to connect all the dots. I'm like, Hey, you know what? I'm inconvenienced, uh, by this baby that I carry in my womb. I'm just going to kill it.
00:32:29.220That's a nihilistic mentality that's supported by music and movies and this whole culture they're promoting. You know, how did we get here? Where we go from, uh, what they call it safe, rare, and safe, legal, and rare.
00:32:44.660Yeah. Safe, legal, and rare too. I'm out in the streets convulsing. How dare someone say I can't kill my baby. And I've had 16 abortions. How did we get there? We created a nihilistic culture and the music, particularly rap music, has been a big part of that.
00:33:02.980Yep. And so you, were you surprised at all to see this coming out about P Diddy and some of the other rappers involved?
00:33:09.740No, no, no. It's been my argument throughout all of Hollywood, throughout all of, uh, corporate TV movies, uh, that sexual exploitation and sexual depravity is at the root of all of it. You can't move up in that industry without getting further and further and further into their sexual depravity.
00:33:34.740So there's just, it's a rite of passage. And so, you know, people are very uncomfortable when I say this, but they know, and particularly in rap music, it's a lower form of music. It doesn't, these rappers, there's a handful that actually have talent, but there's a, most of them, they don't really have talent.
00:33:55.620You'll never convince me Sexy Red or Cardi B and some of these guy rappers, they don't have any talent. They put a beat underneath them and they say a nursery school rhyme that's written by a pornographer and they call it music.
00:34:12.160And, and, and, and, and, but, and they always pick out the same group of desperate people that sat in the back of your high school class and either didn't graduate or barely graduated, patted themselves up. They're not fit for any other type of work, but will they take a payoff to promote this type of music and a life of fame and fortune and, and, and, uh, uh, you know, just untold amounts of money?
00:34:38.400Yes. And so they, they get idiots to, uh, get involved and promote the music and become stars. And then on the promise. Now you do have to participate in some sexual depravity and, and people without options who are all tatted up. They're not like, well, I need to be a dentist or I can be a rapper. That's not their choice. It's either I can go to jail or I can take this sexual deal that Diddy and the other people
00:35:08.400at the top of the top of the music industry are promoting and I get to be famous and I get to run around like I'm Jay-Z or I get to be Jay-Z. They take that deal. They're desperate. They have no choice. And so I've been arguing that for a long time that, and again, that's where the kind of rubber met the road with me in terms of corporate TV, that there was a level that I just like, because of the way I was raised and because of the seeds,
00:35:38.380that were planted in me, no, I can't do this. And so I'm going to quit. Uh, and if that's the price of going to the next level where I have to violate my morality, uh, I'm just not going to do that. Most of these people don't do that. I felt like, well, I got other options. I can write, I can start my own business. I can survive. I've been smart with my money.
00:36:03.980Uh, but you know, these guys, little Wayne, you know, what, what all them tats all over his face? What's going to be a school teacher next week? What? Well, maybe now this new, but, uh, no, I'm not surprised with the Diddy thing. And I've been trying to open people's minds to this for a long time.
00:36:25.480Yeah. You had tweeted, or you had retweeted, uh, someone who tweeted hip hop. It was like a, it was a video of a kid. And I've seen these multiple times now of kids, either literally so disturbing to even say like twerking to rap music while their parents are like filming, throwing dollar bills. We're talking little kids or kids being used in these rap music videos, talking about killing people, talking about sex. Um,
00:36:55.480of parents thinking that their kids are cute rapping about the most degenerate, just trash that you've ever heard. And there was this one tweet about that saying hip hop music is raising the next generation of black youth more than their parents. That's why it's so important to bring back the sixth element, which is conscious. I don't know what that means. Uh, this is disgusting. SMH. I I'm not sure exactly what that person means, but you said commercial rap is indefensible. It's poison. And just, I mean, the idea of purposely injecting
00:37:00.480that poison into children and then using them to make money on social media, I mean, it's just
00:37:30.460it's so demonic and awful. I'm going to go back to nihilism and, and nihilism at the heart of the destruction of family. And so you have a family system throughout America that's being destroyed, but it's most acute among black Americans. Our family structures have been destroyed. That means our kids are incredibly vulnerable. When you don't have
00:37:59.920two parents supervising a child that they're more prone to be sexually preyed upon because they're less supervised. And so, and this is all by design. This is, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to know, oh, let's take one of the supervisors that God intended to be over this child. Let's remove them from the family structure. And that's done so they can get to the children.
00:38:24.720They want children vulnerable. And that's why you will continue to hear more and more and more stories about the awful things that are going on with our kids. Why are they suicidal more so than in any time?
00:38:42.400Because there are parents that are out chasing money and career and neglecting their children. And we keep wondering why if we, if we look out on these college campuses today, Ali, and they're protesting and they're angry about things they really don't understand.
00:39:00.160Those are kids that didn't get enough attention in the home. And if you don't get the attention you want, what do young people do? They act out to get attention. That's what we're saying. We have neglected children because this nihilistic mentality that money will solve everything, not love and not the proper nurturing and development of our children.
00:39:27.220Leave your children. Leave your children. Leave your children out vulnerable so that these demonic, wicked, Satan-ruled people can have more access to your children so that you don't teach them about gender and sex. Leave it to the blue-haired teacher at school to teach them that.
00:39:46.040And you run off and sit in the cubicle and make as much money as you can and will tell your kids what to think. It's, it's all just very nihilistic. It's all, you know, the Bible is filled with so much common sense and wisdom that stands the test of time.
00:40:06.940And to watch us and to watch us and to watch us all rebel from it and think there are no catastrophic consequences is, what an incredible story we're witnessing.
00:40:18.040It's a sad, tragic story, but we're witnessing it.
00:40:21.700What do you think about in the music industry now? It's not, it's not just the demonic stuff of talking about sexual exploitation and all of that.
00:40:42.420And of course, that's true across all genres. Of course, sexual promiscuity has been a theme in secular music in, you know, a variety of ways.
00:40:51.880Maybe in country music, it was more like innuendo. And then in pop music, innuendo, maybe a little bit more explicit, but less explicit than rap.
00:41:02.360But the theme has been there for a long time. But now it's not just that. It's not just like the subliminal massaging. I mean, you've got outright blasphemy.
00:41:13.060We've got Kendrick Lamar, for example. He, I guess, in one of his concerts recently, I saw on Twitter, you had retweeted this.
00:41:23.760He is rapping as Jesus. I mean, it's hard for me to even look at this image. We've got Kendrick Lamar. He's got what looks like a crown of thorns, fake blood dripping down his face, showing himself as Jesus.
00:41:39.060And then you've got, as you said, Kanye West, the whole Yeezus thing. But then we've even got Taylor Swift.
00:41:45.980She might not be going this far, but in her recent album, like she has a lot of lyrics where she is comparing herself to Christ, where she is putting herself in the place of God saying, I can save this person.
00:41:58.460God can't save this person. I can save this person. Roll the stone away. They're going to crucify me anyway.
00:42:05.000Lots of very sacrilegious themes. We see this with Billie Eilish. We even see this with Justin Timberlake.
00:42:11.200Justin Timberlake has a new song out where there's just, it's just mocking of Christianity outright. It's like they're testing God to do something.
00:42:19.760Lil Nas X, he had that music video celebrating Satan not that long ago. I mean, what do you make of this?
00:42:25.220Like, do you think that it's just like, oh, this is just the theme. This is just the trend. This is just what makes the money right now.
00:42:31.400They'll get over this trend and move on to something else. Or do you think there is something, a profound spiritual shift going on right now?
00:42:38.280I think that, take the rapper Ice Cube, who was at the onset of gangster rap music, but he sat down with Bill Maher in the last two to three months and acknowledged, like, hey, man, this music industry thing, it's out of control.
00:42:57.380The songs that we're putting out, they're being, the artists are being manipulated and bribed and pushed into making that kind of music.
00:43:11.700And so, I'm not defending any of the artists, but it's like a price of admission. Hey, you know, you're going to put out an album and it's going to be 12, 13 songs, but we really need this song on the album.
00:43:27.340And so, Justin Timberlake or whomever is sitting there, Taylor Swift, Lil Nas, Lil Nas, they're all just sitting there and it's like, I can accept this huge check and put this one song that I kind of disagree with on the album, but the rest of the album is going to be, and they just make those compromised decisions.
00:43:51.180And so, look, they're dressing up, Sam Smith, they dress up in, like, satanic gear, all red, and horns, and they, ice, what's it called, ice spice, is that her name, or posh spice?
00:44:05.380Yeah, I think it was ice spice or something, I don't know.
00:44:17.400That is real, and that gave me the chills.
00:44:19.620I'm not someone who looks for a satanic symbolism and everything, because I'm like, I don't need the symbolism to know that Satan is real.
00:44:25.380He's the prince of the power of the air, Ephesians 2 says.
00:44:27.960Like, I understand, but I saw that, and I was like, that, I mean, it's in a chill up my spine, actually, seeing her do the satanic hand symbols at the Super Bowl.
00:44:40.080And it just, if ice spice, or whoever her name is, if she had some sort of unbelievable Michael Jackson type singing ability, or whoever you think the greatest singer is, I'd halfway get it.
00:44:59.480But she's a rapper that raps very simplistic stuff, and like, so who decided to platform her?
00:45:11.900Who decided Sexy Red gets, and like Sexy Red doing songs like Pound Town and this other stuff, and schools are inviting her to speak to their kids?
00:48:05.200We've become friends since I've lived here in Nashville.
00:48:08.060And so, like, the goal of this is we're going to turn this into a great music and food and speaking festival where we center Jesus Christ and worship him and encourage men to live up to their biblical responsibility.
00:48:28.160And so, the guys that participated last year loved it.
00:48:33.500This year, this year, we upgraded the speakers.
00:48:35.840Glenn Beck's coming in and going to talk about sacrifice because the theme for this year is that growth requires sacrifice.
00:48:44.320And so, what a lot of us as men have forgotten and we've forgotten as a culture, the things that we loved about America, we sacrificed to have those things.
00:48:58.800We just have benefited from those sacrifices.
00:49:01.320But if there weren't men and women willing to sacrifice, lay their lives down, we wouldn't have these things.
00:49:11.320And so, the theme this year is just kind of reminding us as men that the things that we want, we have to be willing to make sacrifices for.
00:49:20.500And so, if we want a more righteous society, if we want our politicians to support the values we say we believe in, we have to individually be more righteous.
00:49:33.960Because the politicians, whether we like it or not, we are broken and corrupt.
00:49:41.720And so, when we look out and see Joe Biden, you know, alleged Catholics supporting abortion, that's a reflection of us.
00:49:52.140We'll say one thing and do something completely else.
00:49:56.040And so, I just want to remind, we're going to remind men like, hey, look, the growth, the progress, the return of spiritual values, we have to be willing to sacrifice for them.
00:50:10.400And so, I just couldn't tell people any more strongly between, you know, Mark Robinson, who's running for governor in North Carolina, big, bold speaker, Pastor E.W. Jackson, if you've never heard him speak, man, this guy is amazing.
00:50:29.260And then, by the time you throw in the entertainment with John Rich and Jeffrey Steele and others, it's a great event.
00:50:40.020I want you to go to fearlessarmyrollcall.com, fearlessarmyrollcall.com, sign up.
00:50:46.920We've got some great VIP events on Friday and Saturday.
00:50:51.520But it's fun, and we're going to pour Jesus into you and flush out some of Satan and send you back home a better man.
00:51:11.100Jason, I want to talk to you about repealing the 19th Amendment, which you have talked about recently and said that you were convinced by none other than Pearl Davis that we need to repeal the 19th.
00:51:24.580So, I want to hear what's your thought behind that.
00:51:28.760And repeal the 19th, for people who don't know, that would be repealing a woman's right to vote.
00:51:32.460And so, people caught the headline that I said, you know, maybe we should repeal the 19th Amendment.
00:51:41.420What I also said is, Jason Whitlock should not vote either.
00:51:46.720I think the vote should be about families.
00:51:50.700And I think if we want a culture and a system that favors families, we have to empower families.
00:52:01.460And so, if you really understand the history of the vote, you know, it was intended to represent, man voted, he represented his family.
00:52:14.200And everybody back then, I say everybody, but I'm generalizing, they were married back then.
00:52:58.980And the society should actually favor you, even at my expense.
00:53:05.060And so, that is my, that the vote should be about the family.
00:53:11.020And that when we used to have a system where women didn't vote, it was because it was out of a tradition, I believe, of like, hey, the vote represented the family.
00:53:23.880The husband, the leader of the family, so he did the voting.
00:53:29.440So, if I don't vote and other single people don't vote, I think we'd actually see an improved country because all the politicians would be figuring out, well, man, how can I make Allie Beth and her husband happy?
00:53:41.360So, your argument is more against the, like, hyper-individualistic kind of movement trend that we have gone into rather than what I've heard from other people.
00:54:11.360That while we shouldn't allow women to vote because then they tend to vote Democrat, and that has coincided with, you know, bad things happening.
00:54:21.960Because I've heard that, and I don't know, those people just don't seem brave enough to say, if that is your logic behind women not voting, well, then Black people shouldn't vote.
00:54:31.600Because 92% of Black Americans, 92% of Black Americans vote Democrat and have for a really long time.
00:54:39.820And so, it's like, I don't know, that just doesn't seem to be the right logic if you're only going to apply it to women and not apply it to other demographics that also tend to vote for what I think are destructive policies.
00:54:55.120So, I understand that anti-individualistic argument that you made more than I understand, well, people who tend to vote Democrat just shouldn't have the right to vote.
00:55:07.380You're saying that people who have more of a vested interest in the future because they are families, because they have children, that those people should carry more political power than the individual who doesn't have that same vested interest in the future of our country.
00:55:21.520In general, in general, married people are smarter, more sharing, more mature, just, they have to think about more than just themselves.
00:55:41.080And they have to think about, well, man, what am I leaving my kids?
00:55:45.660And so, that's going to make them a more informed and a more move-away-from-your-feelings voter.
00:55:55.040And all of this individual stuff, whether man or woman, that's when feelings start creeping in.
00:56:02.540And so, feelings driving decisions as important as public policies, it's a horrible mistake.
00:56:13.500And we've seen that because look at the insanity we've invited in.
00:56:31.920And we need it based on logic and reason and, like, what's best for the people that are coming behind me.
00:56:40.160And that's what parents have to think about all the time.
00:56:45.640And so, I really, I care, but not nearly as much as people think about the Democrat-Republican thing.
00:56:52.220You know, all these politicians are corrupt.
00:56:56.920They're serving their own self-interest.
00:56:59.880I don't think Republicans can fix deep-rooted spiritual problems that we have.
00:57:07.060Only, we can't solve spiritual problems with political solutions.
00:57:12.620And one of the, you know, I just had this conversation yesterday with the ministers to come on my show on Wednesdays.
00:57:19.700But one of the greatest tests of faith, one of the greatest rites of passage for faith, one of the things that improves people's faith the most is marriage.
00:57:32.400And so, when people are going through that rite of passage of marriage and they learn in their eyes, the scales really come off their eyes because they have to step into their wife's shoes.
00:57:44.520They have to step into their kids' shoes.
00:57:46.200They have to step into their grandparents and all these other shoes.
00:57:48.360These people are so wise, I would be fine with them deciding what's best for all of us rather than a group of individuals saying, you know, Jason Whitlock likes ice cream.
00:58:03.320And so, we should have a tax or some kind of discount on ice cream because I like that.
00:58:10.180Yeah, I totally see what you're saying.
00:58:12.560I mean, I think we would both agree, like, the problem is so much deeper and so multifaceted.
00:58:18.440I absolutely agree with you that we should be doing everything that we can to incentivize the formation of steady marriages, marriage between a man and a woman and children, and that there should be incentives for that.
00:58:33.460I don't think that we are in a place where that is even, like, where moving in a different direction is even feasible.
00:58:41.740It's just we are so hyper-individualistic and we, yeah, we've got so many issues.
00:58:50.680But where, so I don't know, I have to think about it more.
00:58:53.220I don't think that I, I don't know if I'm fully on board with what you're saying, but I do agree that there should be a structure in place absolutely to do everything that we can to incentivize marriage and to incentivize those strong families.
00:59:08.520And so I'm glad that you explained it, because I think a lot of people were running with that headline.
00:59:45.200Like, in this environment, how could you ever get that?
00:59:48.580But it's going to take a miracle to fix how far we've fallen.
00:59:53.720And, and, and, you know, so one of the miracles I'm praying for is take away my right to vote, take away all these individual rights to vote.
01:00:39.280I mean, it is absolutely possible for it to be too easy to vote in a country.
01:00:43.560And it is too easy to vote in the United States.
01:00:46.840I mean, you don't even have to be a citizen in all cases.
01:00:49.580Like in some local elections in some states, you don't even have to be a citizen.
01:00:53.420And so you have representation without taxation in some cases, which is absolutely ridiculous.
01:00:57.940We have some of the loosest and craziest laws when it comes to voting.
01:01:01.660And the very people who say that they care about democracy are the people who say that protecting democracy means absolutely anyone can vote no matter what.
01:01:09.880Even if you believe in a pure democracy, that's not what democracy means.
01:01:13.320In order to protect democracy, you have to protect citizenship.
01:01:16.840And of course, we live in a representative democracy, which isn't a pure democracy, which is even further reason to try to protect it.
01:01:23.520I mean, I know you're not allowed to have any sort of like tests that someone has to pass in order to vote, but it seems to me like it would make sense that you should have to be able to pass a basic civics test, like a high school civics test in order to vote.
01:01:38.400If you don't know anything about your country, how many states there are, who the president is of the United States, if you have no vested interests, like you said, property owning whatsoever, like I don't know.
01:01:51.320I think that there should be parameters and we can have a debate and discussion about what those parameters should be.
01:01:56.140But people who actually care about freedom and fair representation should also care about the parameters surrounding that representation.