Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - April 25, 2024


Ep 992 ｜ Kanye Is Now a Pornographer ｜ Guest： Jason Whitlock

Topics
Kanye West announcing porn studio Kanye West Porn Studio Announcement love of money music and culture nihilism
Hosted by
Allie Beth Stuckey
Guests
Jason Whitlock
Mentioned
Kanye West Taylor Swift Jason Whitlock Allie Beth John Rich Lil Nas X Justin Timberlake Yeezy Studio Kendrick Lamar Jesus Christ Mickey Mouse Michael Jackson Jeffrey Steele Mark Robinson E.W. Jackson Andrew Tate Pearl Davis Lauren Chen Bill Maher Pound Town and 10 more
Ep 991 ｜ Bethany Hamilton on Women’s Sports, Faith & Motherhood Ep 993 ｜ The Right & Wrong Way to Read the Bible ｜ Guest： Tara-Leigh Cobble

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1 hour and 3 minutes

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9,917

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689

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Misogyny

16

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10

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11

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On this week's episode of Relatable, Allie is joined by Jason Whitlock to talk about Taylor Swift's new merch, P. Diddy's new porn studio, Kanye West's sex trafficking charges, and much, much more!

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00:00:00.780 Kanye West has announced that he is launching a porn studio.
00:00:06.480 What in the world happened to him after he announced that he had become a born-again Christian just a few years ago?
00:00:13.880 And what is going on in the music industry in general with the outright blasphemy and sacrilege that we are seeing from so many artists these days?
00:00:24.540 As well as what's going on with artists like P. Diddy and the sex trafficking charges.
00:00:30.720 Oh my goodness.
00:00:31.400 We are talking about all of this and more with our friend Jason Whitlock on today's episode of Relatable.
00:00:47.980 All right.
00:00:48.800 Before we get started with Jason, I've just got a few things to announce.
00:00:53.220 One, I've got some subscriber-exclusive content for you guys that I'm super pumped about that we filmed a couple weeks ago that you guys are going to love.
00:01:05.280 And what I'm about to announce is not even—it doesn't even scratch the surface of all of the stuff that is coming out for just Blaze TV subscribers.
00:01:15.680 But this first iteration or this first edition to my Blaze TV subscriber content is a Q&A with some very juicy relationship questions answered.
00:01:26.780 I had so much fun doing this.
00:01:28.580 Again, this is only for Blaze TV plus subscribers.
00:01:32.040 If you go to blazetv.com slash Allie, use code Allie, you'll get $20 off your subscription.
00:01:37.440 So you don't only get access to everything that I'm putting out, but also all of the other hosts who have great, great content behind the paywall.
00:01:47.460 And you subscribing helps us out because we just never know what's going to happen, especially in an election year with censorship, with getting knocked off these platforms like YouTube.
00:01:57.380 And so if you subscribe to us, that makes sure that you are going to be able to find us no matter what happens with these big tech sensors this year.
00:02:06.020 So go to blazetv.com slash Allie. 0.97
00:02:08.220 Use code Allie for $20 off your subscription for a limited time.
00:02:13.580 Also, if you're watching on YouTube, I have this shirt on, which is super cute.
00:02:18.520 In my mom era, it's comfort colors.
00:02:20.640 I've got relatable on the sleeve.
00:02:22.220 And then on the back, it says in my mom era too.
00:02:24.540 We've got matching onesies that say in my baby era.
00:02:28.220 Okay.
00:02:28.480 And I just, I saw some people say, oh, that is giving a nod to Taylor Swift because of the era's tour.
00:02:35.340 Okay.
00:02:35.500 Let me defend myself there because I know we've got strong, strong feelings about Taylor Swift.
00:02:41.240 As I saw earlier this week in the episode that we put out talking about some of her blasphemous lyrics and some of the comments that I received on YouTube.
00:02:49.320 My goodness.
00:02:49.780 Some people were saying, you know, how could you say that this is blasphemous and then also give a nod to her?
00:02:56.040 All right.
00:02:56.460 This whole like eras thing saying in my blank era was before Taylor Swift.
00:03:02.740 Okay.
00:03:03.120 I'm not saying that Taylor Swift like used to that language or used to that trend to name her tour.
00:03:09.660 I don't really know.
00:03:10.980 I know that she had the eras tour where she was going through all the different eras of her music.
00:03:15.640 That is not what I am.
00:03:19.340 That's not what I'm honoring.
00:03:20.760 That's not what I'm giving a nod to.
00:03:22.120 And you know how I know it existed before Taylor Swift, because I was writing the book that I am about to release this fall that I'm about to announce in just a couple of weeks back in 2022.
00:03:35.220 And in the introduction to that, I say something along the lines of this person was in their blank era.
00:03:44.500 I use that language.
00:03:46.180 And that was far before Taylor Swift announced the name of her, the name of her tour.
00:03:54.700 And so that means that that was part of like the cultural lexicon.
00:03:58.120 That was, I think, some like Gen Z language that hadn't been going on on TikTok and social media for a while.
00:04:04.840 So in my mom era predates Taylor Swift.
00:04:09.500 All right.
00:04:10.240 And so you can get the merch or not get the merch.
00:04:13.520 I happen to think it's super cute and I like it, but it has not.
00:04:16.680 It really has nothing to do with Taylor Swift.
00:04:18.740 She just kind of popularized it. 1.00
00:04:20.840 Also, just another thing to say about the whole Taylor Swift thing.
00:04:26.100 And I know some of you were angry.
00:04:27.280 Some of you are angry with Bree's opinion about that.
00:04:29.900 Some of you didn't think that I was harsh enough on it.
00:04:32.780 And I really respect y'all's opinion.
00:04:34.560 Y'all are always free to leave whatever you think in the comments.
00:04:38.460 Now, I would love for you to be respectful.
00:04:40.460 I would like for you to remember that we are human beings and that you can give your opinion and you can give it in a way that is kind.
00:04:49.380 And actually, I am much more apt to listen to you and to read your comment if it is actually coherent and if it is respectful.
00:04:57.340 But I just want to remind you because, I mean, of course, we have so much support and so much encouragement.
00:05:02.800 And I'm so thankful for that.
00:05:04.360 We would not be doing the show if we didn't have so many of you who watch so faithfully and pray for us and send me positive messages.
00:05:11.520 And when I see you in person, just your incredible stories of how the show has impacted you or how you've connected to a guest on the show, it's just incredible.
00:05:19.260 So I'm so thankful for that.
00:05:20.320 But recently, I have been getting some negative comments or some negative messages, which is all part of what I do.
00:05:28.920 I'm not angry about that.
00:05:30.580 But that seemed to communicate an unrealistic expectation and desire by some of you who think that your favorite commentators or hosts need to agree with you 100% of the time and need to get it right 100% of the time.
00:05:49.020 And you expect, it seems like me or maybe whoever you listen to, to cover every single nook and cranny of every single issue exactly as you would or exactly as you expect or want us to or in a way that is in total alignment with what you think about everything.
00:06:12.040 Look, I am never going to be able to do that.
00:06:15.020 I'm never going to be able to do that.
00:06:16.580 I am going to fail to meet all of your expectations.
00:06:19.900 I am going to fail at times to meet all of your standards.
00:06:23.020 I am going to disagree with you.
00:06:25.320 I'm going to say things not on purpose, but that just happen to offend you.
00:06:31.080 I am going to say something that doesn't apply to you.
00:06:34.660 I'm going to say something that you flat out hate and don't like.
00:06:38.700 That's just going to happen because we are individuals.
00:06:41.260 I am a finite, fallible human being who makes mistakes, who doesn't always get it right, but again, just sometimes doesn't see things the way that you do.
00:06:50.880 You do not have to announce to me in a comment, a message, whatever it is that, oh my gosh, she's completely lost everything.
00:07:01.100 This podcast is just not what I thought it was and I'm not going to listen or I'm not going to watch anymore.
00:07:07.320 I don't care about, she's, you know, she attacks this or she blah, blah, blah.
00:07:12.000 Just because we don't see eye to eye on something or you don't like how I said something, it's, I'm sorry, it's not a blight on my entire character.
00:07:21.480 Um, it's okay if you want to stop watching or stop listening because of that, you don't have to announce your departure.
00:07:29.240 You can, if you want to, but I think that you also have in your mind that that means that everyone feels the same way that you do and they just don't.
00:07:37.200 Look, we've got, we've got to learn how to internet better than this.
00:07:40.700 We just do.
00:07:41.800 Not every piece of content that we consume is about us.
00:07:45.400 It's not always existent to serve our feelings in any given moment.
00:07:52.540 I am a human being, okay?
00:07:55.820 And do not expect any commentator, anyone that you follow to align with you 100% of the time.
00:08:03.680 Take and leave what you will.
00:08:05.360 And I know that the majority of you do.
00:08:07.040 I have to do the same thing.
00:08:08.140 I am also an internet user who follows people who is offended by some things that even people I really like say.
00:08:14.040 And I have to work to de-center myself from everything that I read and see and watch.
00:08:20.100 Only God is infallible, okay?
00:08:23.360 Like only his word should be fully trusted.
00:08:27.640 Everyone else is just doing what they can, okay?
00:08:30.440 So let's just remember to lower our standards and expectations just a little bit.
00:08:36.460 And remember also that when someone disagrees with you, it's not an attack, all right?
00:08:41.360 Let's just turn the temperature down and cool it just a little bit.
00:08:46.740 And just remember, like sometimes people are going to say something about Taylor Swift that you don't like.
00:08:51.500 It's all right.
00:08:52.520 It's okay.
00:08:53.640 All that to say, if you do appreciate this podcast, then I would love for you to, of course, like and subscribe to this video.
00:09:04.060 That helps us out a lot.
00:09:05.180 But also, if you could leave us a positive review on Apple Podcasts or on Spotify, so many of you have already done that.
00:09:11.440 Thank you so much.
00:09:12.220 It means so much to us.
00:09:13.260 But if you love this podcast, if it's meant anything to you, if you could leave a five-star review on Apple Podcasts, that would help us out a lot.
00:09:21.740 And thank you so much.
00:09:23.440 And I know sometimes it gets tiring with all these different announcements at the beginning.
00:09:27.320 I really try not to do that every episode.
00:09:29.120 But just a reminder, like these things that I'm announcing, they're for you.
00:09:32.880 They're for you.
00:09:33.780 They're the merch that we announced, the subscriber content that we have.
00:09:38.080 I'm not trying to dog you about anything.
00:09:40.340 We create these things because we love and appreciate you.
00:09:43.640 And we are trying to add as much value to you and your life as we possibly can as a relatable team.
00:09:51.460 So I just wanted to say all that at the start of this.
00:09:54.080 Now we're going to get into our awesome episode, our awesome conversation with Jason Whitlock.
00:09:59.120 Jason, thanks so much for taking the time to join us.
00:10:13.700 Lots, lots, lots that I want to get through today.
00:10:16.340 Okay, first, first, I want to hear your reaction to this insane story that I had to, I had to make sure was being reported correctly.
00:10:24.340 And it wasn't just like a rumor, which I guess it still kind of is.
00:10:27.800 But Kanye West planning to launch Yeezy Porn Studio.
00:10:33.880 This is according to Daily Mail.
00:10:35.660 I also saw it on TMZ.
00:10:38.400 The rap star hopes to add an adult entertainment branch to his Yeezy empire, possibly this summer.
00:10:44.380 Okay, this is the same guy who a few years ago was stunning all of us with his gospel album, his conversion to Christ.
00:10:51.480 I was personally very excited about this.
00:10:54.620 I mean, what's your take on all this?
00:10:57.460 I mean, I was, I was excited about that.
00:10:59.560 I was not excited about this announcement of Yeezy Porn.
00:11:02.240 Let me just clarify that.
00:11:03.980 I was excited about the testimony originally.
00:11:06.040 But what's your take on all this now?
00:11:07.700 Like you, I was bold and hopeful that Kanye was, he's in a wrestling match with fame, which is, in my view, the most powerful drug on the planet in America.
00:11:23.540 And he's losing that wrestling match.
00:11:26.880 And he's tried to fix it with God.
00:11:30.560 And it has not worked.
00:11:32.020 And this is, it's a very disappointing story.
00:11:37.000 And it's, you know, I had relatively high hopes for Kanye and, you know, saluted him in his battle with fame and battle with all the things that Hollywood pours into young people and trying to get that out.
00:11:55.840 You have to pour so much good in.
00:11:57.760 You have to pour so much Jesus in.
00:11:59.160 And I thought that's what he was trying to do.
00:12:02.640 But clearly he started pouring other things back in.
00:12:07.100 And you could kind of see it with, he walks around with his wife half naked in public.
00:12:12.460 And you could just, just the other thing.
00:12:15.440 So he's, he's lost that battle.
00:12:18.020 I'll continue to pray for him and root for him.
00:12:20.420 But I won't be sending any more of my expectations or rest in any of my hopes in Kanye.
00:12:28.060 Right.
00:12:28.520 So this is how the Daily Mail is reporting this.
00:12:32.820 He previously expressed regret a few years ago.
00:12:36.040 I remember this, that he had watched pornography so often over the years.
00:12:40.700 He claimed that porn had, quote, destroyed his family. 0.95
00:12:44.520 He even had a conversation with his staff at the time, who I think was working on the Jesus is King album, that, hey, I don't want you having premarital sex. 0.99
00:12:53.860 I don't want you engaging in sexual immorality.
00:12:56.660 That seemed like something that was really important to him at the time.
00:13:00.400 And now he's obviously, as we said, announcing this adult entertainment branch to his Yeezy empire.
00:13:07.240 He is sad to be communicating with adult film producer Mike Maas, who used to be married to Stormy Daniels, in hopes that Mike will run his studio.
00:13:15.700 Although Kanye has purportedly been considering entering the porn industry for some time, he is now said to be in serious negotiations to start a studio.
00:13:23.700 Wednesday evening, Kanye posted the announcement from his official X account.
00:13:29.440 Oh, this is very disturbing, Jason.
00:13:32.060 Yeezy porn is coming. 0.97
00:13:35.120 Very disturbing indeed. 0.77
00:13:36.920 And I just see this, yes, as a battle with fame, absolutely.
00:13:41.360 But to me, it's obvious that it's spiritual warfare here.
00:13:45.640 I mean, we can't understand, we can't discern his heart and whether his, you know, what parts of his transformation a few years ago were sincere or just performative.
00:13:57.360 But, I mean, the gospel was being proclaimed through his music, through some of his Sunday services.
00:14:02.620 God was being worshipped.
00:14:04.320 And Satan did not like that, that we know for sure, that we can say for sure.
00:14:10.460 And as you said, it's just it's really disheartening and scary.
00:14:13.840 And I'm sad.
00:14:14.560 I'm sad for him that he has now gotten to this place.
00:14:19.020 He's another story about the worship of money and worship of the world and being popular.
00:14:26.880 And look, it's a narrow path for anyone to see the kingdom.
00:14:31.800 And he's chosen the wide path.
00:14:33.520 He wants to be popular.
00:14:34.600 He wants to be powerful in the world.
00:14:38.820 And, you know, in order to win the battle he was trying to fight, he would have had to separate himself from the commercial music industry and all the demonic energy that's within the music industry.
00:14:55.660 He would have had to separate himself.
00:14:57.480 And it's no different from the reasons I moved away from Los Angeles and moved to Nashville.
00:15:04.720 You know, I just could not accomplish the things that I wanted to accomplish personally and spiritually in Los Angeles.
00:15:12.480 And so I had to move to safer territory and a place where, you know, it's my thoughts, my worldview isn't so foreign.
00:15:23.740 Kanye hasn't taken any of those steps.
00:15:25.920 And so we shouldn't be all that surprised that he has fallen.
00:15:30.140 Yeah. You know, I know a lot of people at the time were very loudly skeptical about his announcement that he had become a Christian and his Sunday services.
00:15:40.860 And, yes, even within that time, he said some things, did some things that I didn't agree with.
00:15:46.820 For example, I'm not a fan of Joel Osteen.
00:15:49.120 He had kind of hoisted up Joel Osteen and said some things that kind of made me scratch my head.
00:15:53.600 But I was I was still excited about it.
00:15:56.640 I was still excited that some way someone like Kanye West would release an album called Jesus is King.
00:16:01.820 And I would say that the theology in some of those songs like was really solid.
00:16:05.980 And so I don't know, I don't I don't regret being excited about that at the time.
00:16:11.580 I don't regret talking about it and cheering it on.
00:16:14.620 I think I don't know.
00:16:16.200 Christians are sometimes when someone like that publicly changes their ways or seems to change their ways.
00:16:24.920 They're too quick to be loudly skeptical and critical of that.
00:16:29.520 Don't you think that there is some kind of balance between, OK, being discerning and being cautious and also just being outright like the older brother in the prodigal son story?
00:16:41.200 Listen, I'm not going to apologize for being excited and hopeful for Kanye West because that excitement and hope is built around like there's Ali, I'm much older than you.
00:16:55.500 But so I can tell you that the whole make America great again.
00:17:00.020 America used to be better than this.
00:17:02.120 The culture used to be more supportive of a biblical worldview.
00:17:05.940 And so when I saw Kanye, Jesus is king and just professing a faith and a belief in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, I was like, oh, man, maybe this will help the culture return to a tiny bit more supportive of those of us with biblical values.
00:17:25.560 Because I think that's important for young people, you know, when I stepped out as a 12 year old kid or a 14 year old kid into the world as a Christian, I wasn't met with the level of hostility that I think Christians are now.
00:17:42.500 That, you know, that, you know, our beliefs just weren't mocked the way they're mocked now.
00:17:47.820 And I'm not going to apologize for wanting to see some of that reversed and thinking that, oh, man, if Kanye makes it cool for kids to profess their Christian faith, you know, maybe we'll see one or two or 3,000 less drag queens at schools or wherever.
00:18:10.860 And so I'm just, I'm not embarrassed that he's fallen.
00:18:14.300 Hey, I may fall.
00:18:15.480 You know, any of us may fall.
00:18:19.140 But I'm actually glad that he at least attempted and is attempting to get in the fight.
00:18:29.800 Now, obviously, at this point with the porn deal, it's so clear that he loves money and he regrets the money he lost in his feud with Adidas.
00:18:41.780 And so he's willing to do anything to make money, including porn.
00:18:48.320 And, you know, I will not be really taking Kanye serious or talking about him publicly.
00:18:57.980 Again, I'll be more skeptical the next time he says, I'm really doing it this time.
00:19:03.480 But apologies or embarrassed because I was supportive and hopeful.
00:19:08.900 Nah.
00:19:09.120 You know, I'm hoping people are, you know, praying for me and hoping that, you know, I continue to win my fights.
00:19:18.320 First Timothy 610 comes to mind as you're talking about this love of money.
00:19:22.720 For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evils.
00:19:27.900 It is through this craving that some have wandered away from the faith and pierced to themselves with many pangs.
00:19:36.160 And that is, as you said, the love of money, whether it manifests itself in someone's life as pursuing the porn industry or whether it's greed or whether it's gambling or whether it's just making shady business deals.
00:19:50.080 The love of money is a temptation for everyone to lead us into all kinds of sin and temptation.
00:19:59.100 And I think that's part of why Jesus tells this radical message, do not worry, do not fear, do not be anxious.
00:20:07.120 If you look at the lilies of the field, they're dressed perfectly.
00:20:10.940 They never want for anything.
00:20:12.620 They never wish for anything.
00:20:13.700 They're never worried about anything.
00:20:15.380 And Jesus tells us to have as much contentment as that, knowing that the Father is going to take care of us.
00:20:21.400 That's a difficult message in this materialistic day and age.
00:20:25.500 And I would say someone like Kanye, who has tasted that wealth, it's really difficult to resist.
00:20:31.780 But it's tough for any of us, don't you think?
00:20:35.000 It's extremely difficult.
00:20:36.820 Kanye clearly has a God complex.
00:20:39.000 He calls himself Jesus.
00:20:40.620 I think, again, in recent days, he's called himself a God again.
00:20:44.340 When a man or woman comes into great financial wealth, the way this world is rigged, it can trigger you to think that you're a God.
00:20:55.000 Now, you would never say it to yourself like Kanye has or said it out loud, but it can trigger a mindset.
00:21:01.300 I can, you know, someone like me whose dad didn't graduate high school and mom was a career factory worker, and I come from a modest background.
00:21:11.700 And so I can remember in 1994, you know, at the age of 27, I think I started making $125,000 a year.
00:21:22.600 And I didn't think anybody could tell me anything.
00:21:26.800 And I did, I, you know, I was in position where I was able to do things for my mother and family.
00:21:33.200 And I can remember my ego just getting completely out of control and feel like, well, you know what, I got enough money to solve all of my problems.
00:21:43.500 And then as things escalated and I really started making money, that mindset really took over and God had to humble me and say, no, brother, you, you, you definitely ain't me.
00:21:58.000 You know, and, and, and Kanye will all get humbled at some point when Kanye's humility comes, who knows, it may not come until the very end.
00:22:10.180 But I can understand, and there's like a, there's such a perfectness to God's plan.
00:22:20.200 And there's a reason why to take someone like me who's not been married and that's a mistake.
00:22:25.260 And I talk about how, what a foolish mindset I had when I was younger, but, but like, if you are given great wealth, you need a wife and many kids so that you don't have just all of this discretionary income and no system of checks and balances, a wife that will, Hey baby, what are you doing with that money?
00:22:45.380 You know, we got kids to put through college and things like that.
00:22:48.600 You need that balance. And, and so Kanye's life, now he's married again, but again, he's not, I don't know if they're equally yoked and that, you know, he's not in a traditional marriage clearly.
00:23:00.080 And, and, you know, he, you know, someone like Kanye should probably have a wife of 15 kids and he'd know what to do with his money and he'd have a real purpose for it rather than, Hey, let me build a studio for porn and the exploitation of women.
00:23:14.020 But his life's out of balance and many of our lives are out of balance in, in similar ways.
00:23:20.180 It's not as public.
00:23:21.400 You're so right about God's plan, just being perfect and being good for us.
00:23:25.760 I mean, in this day and age, and this has probably been true throughout history.
00:23:28.980 Actually, you could argue that it's been true since the garden, like viewing God's rules as something that's trying to dampen our happiness or to hurt us in some way.
00:23:38.780 But when you look at, for example, the institution of marriage that God created in Genesis, you see that it is protective for everyone.
00:23:46.600 It's protective for women who are most vulnerable to abuse. 0.97
00:23:49.740 It's protective for children who are most vulnerable to abandonment and vulnerable because they are just mentally and physically weak.
00:24:00.260 And then it's protective for men who have, you know, more aggression and sexual drive and testosterone that would push them outside of, you know, the power that the Holy Spirit gives to sow their wild oats and to channel their aggression in very unhealthy ways.
00:24:23.500 And yet this institution of marriage and monogamy and a man and a woman becoming one flesh, raising children together, raising a home together, building a life together.
00:24:33.740 That is what changes behavior and protects men from themselves, protects women from predatory men, protects children from predatory adults.
00:24:46.760 And so it really is God's plans really are so perfect.
00:24:49.780 And when you go outside of that and we live in a fallen world, not everyone is going to be able to get married.
00:24:57.080 But you do see the consequences of that, especially when we don't prize those things as a society in general.
00:25:04.380 No question about it.
00:25:06.300 And, you know, in retrospect, you know, particularly someone like myself who lived in Los Angeles for 10 years, was involved in corporate TV for as long as I was and had access to and were around a lot of celebrities.
00:25:26.640 Kanye's fall is actually very predictable and probably expected.
00:25:32.120 He's, you know, he's, you know, been famous for so long, been in love with money.
00:25:38.840 If you listen to a lot of his music, there's the worship of money and showing off your wealth and all that stuff within the music.
00:25:47.460 And again, he's he's pouring so much poison into his soul that it's it's really hard to flush all that out.
00:25:56.800 And it's as someone who grew up a rap music fan and has since deleted all rap music from my Apple playlist and Apple library or whatever.
00:26:09.720 And now I just pour gospel music and just trying to flush out music is just so important and people don't understand it.
00:26:18.180 And I how it changes your soul, changes your mindset, leave such an indelible imprint that there's nothing else that can make you recall memories from 20, 15 years ago.
00:26:33.760 So like music, it's it's such a powerful tool. And unfortunately, it feels like Satan has control of that tool.
00:26:41.080 Yeah, I want to talk more about that. And obviously, the there are problems with rap, there are problems with all genres of secular music, which is what I want to discuss.
00:26:50.880 But you're not really allowed to say, which you are really good at saying things that you're not allowed to say, but you're not allowed to say that may be a genre of music that is constantly glorifying and commercializing murder, drugs, any form of promiscuity and delinquency.
00:27:13.080 All forms of premarital sex, violence, entitlement, greed, money, like you're not allowed to say that maybe that has a negative impact on the people listening to it.
00:27:26.320 Maybe it negatively has influenced a particular culture in the United States.
00:27:31.840 You're supposed to just say, no, this is just an equally beautiful form of art as Beethoven or Bach or anything else.
00:27:39.340 It's just as edifying, just as encouraging as any other form of music.
00:27:43.500 Like you're not allowed to say in the same way that some, I don't know, I guess maybe like white women would say, oh, there's nothing wrong with Taylor Swift being blasphemous in her music. 1.00
00:27:54.040 It's just music. It's not a big deal. It's not doing anything in my mind or life.
00:27:58.820 And I think you're right. I think that's how Satan actually tricks us.
00:28:03.260 We just see music and entertainment as totally neutral and having no effect on our mind or lives or families or culture.
00:28:12.360 It's a very silly point of view that somehow we could pour those thoughts into our head, learn the lyrics to that, be able to repeat the lyrics to that, have young children repeat the lyrics to this stuff.
00:28:29.000 And oh, but it has no impact. And people want to say, well, it's just like a movie.
00:28:33.420 It's a fantasy. And no, it's not like a movie because you can't repeat all the words in a movie.
00:28:42.300 You may be able to repeat a scene or two, but a movie just doesn't leave the kind of imprint on you.
00:28:48.020 And music does. And we have to accept that.
00:28:51.520 And so there's a very nuanced conversation that we can't have about music and particularly rap music.
00:28:59.240 And it's a lot like, I'm pretty sure, Ali, don't you consistently point out like, hmm, pit bulls, just attack someone.
00:29:09.040 Maybe there's something unique about pit bulls.
00:29:11.760 Maybe. I don't know.
00:29:13.260 Right. And that's what I say about this music. Hmm. Rap music and rappers, they get killed a lot.
00:29:21.660 Hmm. I wonder if that's connected.
00:29:25.180 There's all these other musicians, there's all these other celebrities and they don't get shot and killed the way rappers do.
00:29:31.900 I wonder if the music has something to do with that.
00:29:35.980 Hmm. Hmm.
00:29:43.260 Okay. What is your take? Speaking of rap and hip hop, I didn't even plan to talk about this, but we haven't talked about it on this show.
00:29:56.620 Everything that's happening with P Diddy right now.
00:30:01.080 I know it's a big, I know it's a big subject.
00:30:04.000 Yeah. Uh, well, I will say this to your audience. I did two, two, two and a half hour shows just on Diddy.
00:30:16.220 Okay. So people can go and listen to those for your full analysis. So basically he's being caught. What? Uh, it's a sex trafficking allegations, right?
00:30:24.800 Sex trafficking, uh, sexual exploitation, compromising, you know, uh, compromising information on people. He had cameras all throughout his house, but where I really went and it's, it'll be hard to unpack in just a small segment here.
00:30:43.200 But I tried to get people to understand like that rap music is part of a movement to make our culture globally more nihilistic. If you listen to the music, they're trying to remove us from moral and godly and faith-based principles.
00:31:05.580 And, and, and if you look at it, it's, it's happening in movies, it's happening in everything, but rap music is one of the leaders of this. And so part of what I unpacked is like, Hey, look, the same people that own the most stock in, uh, BET, MTV, all the major music labels, they also own the most stock in the private prison industry.
00:31:32.520 And so there's part of it is just like, Hey, let's feed the bees. Let's, uh, make more need for private prisons and let's criminalize the culture and mentality of Americans so that they get fed into this system.
00:31:46.420 But the, and so there's that financial element, but the real thing, the globalists, the people that think the planet is overpopulated, the people that, that are trying to bait us into a world war so that they can reduce the population.
00:32:04.900 They want us to have a nihilistic mentality where we don't care about life. Our life has no purpose. We're removed from religious faith and moral principles. And that's how you get people in a mindset.
00:32:19.000 And I'll try to connect all the dots. I'm like, Hey, you know what? I'm inconvenienced, uh, by this baby that I carry in my womb. I'm just going to kill it.
00:32:29.220 That's a nihilistic mentality that's supported by music and movies and this whole culture they're promoting. You know, how did we get here? Where we go from, uh, what they call it safe, rare, and safe, legal, and rare. 0.99
00:32:44.660 Yeah. Safe, legal, and rare too. I'm out in the streets convulsing. How dare someone say I can't kill my baby. And I've had 16 abortions. How did we get there? We created a nihilistic culture and the music, particularly rap music, has been a big part of that.
00:33:02.980 Yep. And so you, were you surprised at all to see this coming out about P Diddy and some of the other rappers involved?
00:33:09.740 No, no, no. It's been my argument throughout all of Hollywood, throughout all of, uh, corporate TV movies, uh, that sexual exploitation and sexual depravity is at the root of all of it. You can't move up in that industry without getting further and further and further into their sexual depravity.
00:33:34.740 So there's just, it's a rite of passage. And so, you know, people are very uncomfortable when I say this, but they know, and particularly in rap music, it's a lower form of music. It doesn't, these rappers, there's a handful that actually have talent, but there's a, most of them, they don't really have talent.
00:33:55.620 You'll never convince me Sexy Red or Cardi B and some of these guy rappers, they don't have any talent. They put a beat underneath them and they say a nursery school rhyme that's written by a pornographer and they call it music.
00:34:12.160 And, and, and, and, and, but, and they always pick out the same group of desperate people that sat in the back of your high school class and either didn't graduate or barely graduated, patted themselves up. They're not fit for any other type of work, but will they take a payoff to promote this type of music and a life of fame and fortune and, and, and, uh, uh, you know, just untold amounts of money?
00:34:38.400 Yes. And so they, they get idiots to, uh, get involved and promote the music and become stars. And then on the promise. Now you do have to participate in some sexual depravity and, and people without options who are all tatted up. They're not like, well, I need to be a dentist or I can be a rapper. That's not their choice. It's either I can go to jail or I can take this sexual deal that Diddy and the other people 0.99
00:35:08.400 at the top of the top of the music industry are promoting and I get to be famous and I get to run around like I'm Jay-Z or I get to be Jay-Z. They take that deal. They're desperate. They have no choice. And so I've been arguing that for a long time that, and again, that's where the kind of rubber met the road with me in terms of corporate TV, that there was a level that I just like, because of the way I was raised and because of the seeds,
00:35:38.380 that were planted in me, no, I can't do this. And so I'm going to quit. Uh, and if that's the price of going to the next level where I have to violate my morality, uh, I'm just not going to do that. Most of these people don't do that. I felt like, well, I got other options. I can write, I can start my own business. I can survive. I've been smart with my money.
00:36:03.980 Uh, but you know, these guys, little Wayne, you know, what, what all them tats all over his face? What's going to be a school teacher next week? What? Well, maybe now this new, but, uh, no, I'm not surprised with the Diddy thing. And I've been trying to open people's minds to this for a long time.
00:36:25.480 Yeah. You had tweeted, or you had retweeted, uh, someone who tweeted hip hop. It was like a, it was a video of a kid. And I've seen these multiple times now of kids, either literally so disturbing to even say like twerking to rap music while their parents are like filming, throwing dollar bills. We're talking little kids or kids being used in these rap music videos, talking about killing people, talking about sex. Um,
00:36:55.480 of parents thinking that their kids are cute rapping about the most degenerate, just trash that you've ever heard. And there was this one tweet about that saying hip hop music is raising the next generation of black youth more than their parents. That's why it's so important to bring back the sixth element, which is conscious. I don't know what that means. Uh, this is disgusting. SMH. I I'm not sure exactly what that person means, but you said commercial rap is indefensible. It's poison. And just, I mean, the idea of purposely injecting 0.99
00:37:00.480 that poison into children and then using them to make money on social media, I mean, it's just
00:37:30.460 it's so demonic and awful. I'm going to go back to nihilism and, and nihilism at the heart of the destruction of family. And so you have a family system throughout America that's being destroyed, but it's most acute among black Americans. Our family structures have been destroyed. That means our kids are incredibly vulnerable. When you don't have 1.00
00:37:59.920 two parents supervising a child that they're more prone to be sexually preyed upon because they're less supervised. And so, and this is all by design. This is, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to know, oh, let's take one of the supervisors that God intended to be over this child. Let's remove them from the family structure. And that's done so they can get to the children.
00:38:24.720 They want children vulnerable. And that's why you will continue to hear more and more and more stories about the awful things that are going on with our kids. Why are they suicidal more so than in any time?
00:38:42.400 Because there are parents that are out chasing money and career and neglecting their children. And we keep wondering why if we, if we look out on these college campuses today, Ali, and they're protesting and they're angry about things they really don't understand.
00:39:00.160 Those are kids that didn't get enough attention in the home. And if you don't get the attention you want, what do young people do? They act out to get attention. That's what we're saying. We have neglected children because this nihilistic mentality that money will solve everything, not love and not the proper nurturing and development of our children.
00:39:27.220 Leave your children. Leave your children. Leave your children out vulnerable so that these demonic, wicked, Satan-ruled people can have more access to your children so that you don't teach them about gender and sex. Leave it to the blue-haired teacher at school to teach them that. 0.98
00:39:46.040 And you run off and sit in the cubicle and make as much money as you can and will tell your kids what to think. It's, it's all just very nihilistic. It's all, you know, the Bible is filled with so much common sense and wisdom that stands the test of time.
00:40:06.940 And to watch us and to watch us and to watch us all rebel from it and think there are no catastrophic consequences is, what an incredible story we're witnessing.
00:40:18.040 It's a sad, tragic story, but we're witnessing it.
00:40:21.700 What do you think about in the music industry now? It's not, it's not just the demonic stuff of talking about sexual exploitation and all of that.
00:40:42.420 And of course, that's true across all genres. Of course, sexual promiscuity has been a theme in secular music in, you know, a variety of ways.
00:40:51.880 Maybe in country music, it was more like innuendo. And then in pop music, innuendo, maybe a little bit more explicit, but less explicit than rap.
00:41:02.360 But the theme has been there for a long time. But now it's not just that. It's not just like the subliminal massaging. I mean, you've got outright blasphemy. 0.82
00:41:13.060 We've got Kendrick Lamar, for example. He, I guess, in one of his concerts recently, I saw on Twitter, you had retweeted this.
00:41:23.760 He is rapping as Jesus. I mean, it's hard for me to even look at this image. We've got Kendrick Lamar. He's got what looks like a crown of thorns, fake blood dripping down his face, showing himself as Jesus.
00:41:39.060 And then you've got, as you said, Kanye West, the whole Yeezus thing. But then we've even got Taylor Swift.
00:41:45.980 She might not be going this far, but in her recent album, like she has a lot of lyrics where she is comparing herself to Christ, where she is putting herself in the place of God saying, I can save this person.
00:41:58.460 God can't save this person. I can save this person. Roll the stone away. They're going to crucify me anyway.
00:42:05.000 Lots of very sacrilegious themes. We see this with Billie Eilish. We even see this with Justin Timberlake.
00:42:11.200 Justin Timberlake has a new song out where there's just, it's just mocking of Christianity outright. It's like they're testing God to do something.
00:42:19.760 Lil Nas X, he had that music video celebrating Satan not that long ago. I mean, what do you make of this?
00:42:25.220 Like, do you think that it's just like, oh, this is just the theme. This is just the trend. This is just what makes the money right now.
00:42:31.400 They'll get over this trend and move on to something else. Or do you think there is something, a profound spiritual shift going on right now?
00:42:38.280 I think that, take the rapper Ice Cube, who was at the onset of gangster rap music, but he sat down with Bill Maher in the last two to three months and acknowledged, like, hey, man, this music industry thing, it's out of control.
00:42:57.380 The songs that we're putting out, they're being, the artists are being manipulated and bribed and pushed into making that kind of music.
00:43:11.700 And so, I'm not defending any of the artists, but it's like a price of admission. Hey, you know, you're going to put out an album and it's going to be 12, 13 songs, but we really need this song on the album.
00:43:27.340 And so, Justin Timberlake or whomever is sitting there, Taylor Swift, Lil Nas, Lil Nas, they're all just sitting there and it's like, I can accept this huge check and put this one song that I kind of disagree with on the album, but the rest of the album is going to be, and they just make those compromised decisions.
00:43:51.180 And so, look, they're dressing up, Sam Smith, they dress up in, like, satanic gear, all red, and horns, and they, ice, what's it called, ice spice, is that her name, or posh spice?
00:44:05.380 Yeah, I think it was ice spice or something, I don't know.
00:44:08.220 Yeah.
00:44:09.100 She's sitting with Taylor Swift, I think at the Super Bowl, and clear as day during satanic hand signals. 0.60
00:44:16.280 Yes.
00:44:17.400 That is real, and that gave me the chills.
00:44:19.620 I'm not someone who looks for a satanic symbolism and everything, because I'm like, I don't need the symbolism to know that Satan is real.
00:44:25.380 He's the prince of the power of the air, Ephesians 2 says.
00:44:27.960 Like, I understand, but I saw that, and I was like, that, I mean, it's in a chill up my spine, actually, seeing her do the satanic hand symbols at the Super Bowl.
00:44:39.420 It's freaky.
00:44:40.080 And it just, if ice spice, or whoever her name is, if she had some sort of unbelievable Michael Jackson type singing ability, or whoever you think the greatest singer is, I'd halfway get it. 0.95
00:44:59.480 But she's a rapper that raps very simplistic stuff, and like, so who decided to platform her?
00:45:08.360 Who decided to elevate her? 1.00
00:45:11.900 Who decided Sexy Red gets, and like Sexy Red doing songs like Pound Town and this other stuff, and schools are inviting her to speak to their kids? 1.00
00:45:23.540 This stuff is crazy.
00:45:26.400 Yeah, this stuff is crazy.
00:45:27.620 And so it has to be intentional.
00:45:29.160 Someone has to be paying for this.
00:45:31.980 Right.
00:45:32.520 And asking for this.
00:45:34.700 And that, again, I'll ask people to go watch the two shows I did on Diddy.
00:45:40.380 It's about five hours, five and a half hours of content.
00:45:44.160 And it's a big, larger connecting of the dots explanation.
00:45:48.120 Yes.
00:45:49.200 Okay, a couple more things that I want to talk to you about before we get to the last question that I have.
00:45:54.360 I do want to, it's just the right transition to talk about the roll call event that you guys have coming up.
00:46:00.140 Because we're talking about all of this, and I just think about how difficult it is to be a young man, or just a man in general.
00:46:07.800 Like, and especially a Christian man. 0.84
00:46:09.280 Of course, as a woman, as a mom, like, I also see how it's really difficult in different ways to be a Christian woman right now.
00:46:18.020 You've got men who think that they're women infiltrating our spaces. 1.00
00:46:22.200 We've got the elevation of people like Andrew Tate.
00:46:26.060 Just a very confusing moral landscape right now that I think negatively impacts both men and women.
00:46:32.540 But, man, if you're a Christian guy, you're trying to be porn-free.
00:46:35.720 You're trying to be faithful in your marriage.
00:46:37.280 You're trying to be a good dad.
00:46:38.320 You're trying to be strong and masculine and stand up.
00:46:41.460 Defend your community.
00:46:43.420 It's tough.
00:46:44.200 You've got almost no one to look up to in popular culture.
00:46:49.100 Definitely not in the political world.
00:46:51.880 The entertainers that maybe you once admired at one point.
00:46:55.180 They're, you know, complete sellouts.
00:46:57.780 But then within the church, a lot of times you find the male role models and pastors completely effeminate.
00:47:04.460 And so that's why I think that your event is so important.
00:47:08.000 So just talk about it.
00:47:09.260 Invite people to it.
00:47:10.400 Tell us why you're doing it.
00:47:12.480 And so, obviously, your audience is probably predominantly women.
00:47:17.140 But we've got a lot of related bros out there, too.
00:47:20.640 Great.
00:47:20.980 But we also have women that need their husbands or boyfriends inspired. 0.99
00:47:27.240 And I think that's what we're going to do.
00:47:30.360 And what we did last year, this is Roll Call 2.0.
00:47:34.300 And we've taken it to the next level.
00:47:36.040 And it's all about pouring positive energy to flush out all that negative that we're filled up with.
00:47:43.520 And music is a big part of it.
00:47:45.900 Last year, you know, I was kind of the front-facing solo person of the deal.
00:47:52.560 And we had good speakers and we had good entertainment.
00:47:55.800 But I've since now partnered with John Rich, the country music singer.
00:48:01.320 John's dad was the minister.
00:48:03.540 John has a deep faith.
00:48:05.200 We've become friends since I've lived here in Nashville.
00:48:08.060 And so, like, the goal of this is we're going to turn this into a great music and food and speaking festival where we center Jesus Christ and worship him and encourage men to live up to their biblical responsibility.
00:48:28.160 And so, the guys that participated last year loved it.
00:48:32.120 It's going to be even better.
00:48:33.500 This year, this year, we upgraded the speakers.
00:48:35.840 Glenn Beck's coming in and going to talk about sacrifice because the theme for this year is that growth requires sacrifice.
00:48:44.320 And so, what a lot of us as men have forgotten and we've forgotten as a culture, the things that we loved about America, we sacrificed to have those things.
00:48:57.620 Men did not us. 0.88
00:48:58.800 We just have benefited from those sacrifices.
00:49:01.320 But if there weren't men and women willing to sacrifice, lay their lives down, we wouldn't have these things.
00:49:11.320 And so, the theme this year is just kind of reminding us as men that the things that we want, we have to be willing to make sacrifices for.
00:49:20.500 And so, if we want a more righteous society, if we want our politicians to support the values we say we believe in, we have to individually be more righteous.
00:49:33.960 Because the politicians, whether we like it or not, we are broken and corrupt.
00:49:41.720 And so, when we look out and see Joe Biden, you know, alleged Catholics supporting abortion, that's a reflection of us. 0.99
00:49:50.780 We're hypocrites. 0.97
00:49:52.140 We'll say one thing and do something completely else.
00:49:56.040 And so, I just want to remind, we're going to remind men like, hey, look, the growth, the progress, the return of spiritual values, we have to be willing to sacrifice for them.
00:50:10.400 And so, I just couldn't tell people any more strongly between, you know, Mark Robinson, who's running for governor in North Carolina, big, bold speaker, Pastor E.W. Jackson, if you've never heard him speak, man, this guy is amazing.
00:50:29.260 And then, by the time you throw in the entertainment with John Rich and Jeffrey Steele and others, it's a great event.
00:50:40.020 I want you to go to fearlessarmyrollcall.com, fearlessarmyrollcall.com, sign up.
00:50:46.920 We've got some great VIP events on Friday and Saturday.
00:50:51.520 But it's fun, and we're going to pour Jesus into you and flush out some of Satan and send you back home a better man.
00:51:02.900 Awesome.
00:51:03.560 Yes, I'm so excited.
00:51:04.860 I know that the event was awesome last year.
00:51:06.420 It's going to be even better this year.
00:51:08.220 All right.
00:51:08.600 We've got a few more minutes left.
00:51:11.100 Jason, I want to talk to you about repealing the 19th Amendment, which you have talked about recently and said that you were convinced by none other than Pearl Davis that we need to repeal the 19th.
00:51:24.580 So, I want to hear what's your thought behind that.
00:51:28.760 And repeal the 19th, for people who don't know, that would be repealing a woman's right to vote. 1.00
00:51:32.460 And so, people caught the headline that I said, you know, maybe we should repeal the 19th Amendment.
00:51:41.420 What I also said is, Jason Whitlock should not vote either.
00:51:46.720 I think the vote should be about families.
00:51:50.700 And I think if we want a culture and a system that favors families, we have to empower families.
00:52:01.460 And so, if you really understand the history of the vote, you know, it was intended to represent, man voted, he represented his family.
00:52:14.200 And everybody back then, I say everybody, but I'm generalizing, they were married back then.
00:52:20.900 And so, they became one flesh.
00:52:23.080 And so, I don't care who votes in your family, Allie, you or your husband.
00:52:29.680 Y'all can decide that.
00:52:30.640 The only families should vote. 0.83
00:52:34.400 The world, our system should not favor single men with no kids or single women with no kids or just single people in general.
00:52:44.020 We should have a system that favors the family and incentivizes people. 0.88
00:52:48.640 There are rewards for entering into a marriage, and marriage is between a man and a woman. 0.83
00:52:54.220 Entering into a marriage.
00:52:56.980 There should be rewards for that.
00:52:58.980 And the society should actually favor you, even at my expense.
00:53:05.060 And so, that is my, that the vote should be about the family.
00:53:11.020 And that when we used to have a system where women didn't vote, it was because it was out of a tradition, I believe, of like, hey, the vote represented the family.
00:53:23.880 The husband, the leader of the family, so he did the voting.
00:53:27.240 And I'm good with that.
00:53:29.440 So, if I don't vote and other single people don't vote, I think we'd actually see an improved country because all the politicians would be figuring out, well, man, how can I make Allie Beth and her husband happy?
00:53:41.360 So, your argument is more against the, like, hyper-individualistic kind of movement trend that we have gone into rather than what I've heard from other people.
00:54:11.360 That while we shouldn't allow women to vote because then they tend to vote Democrat, and that has coincided with, you know, bad things happening. 0.94
00:54:21.960 Because I've heard that, and I don't know, those people just don't seem brave enough to say, if that is your logic behind women not voting, well, then Black people shouldn't vote. 0.99
00:54:31.600 Because 92% of Black Americans, 92% of Black Americans vote Democrat and have for a really long time. 0.53
00:54:39.820 And so, it's like, I don't know, that just doesn't seem to be the right logic if you're only going to apply it to women and not apply it to other demographics that also tend to vote for what I think are destructive policies.
00:54:55.120 So, I understand that anti-individualistic argument that you made more than I understand, well, people who tend to vote Democrat just shouldn't have the right to vote.
00:55:07.380 You're saying that people who have more of a vested interest in the future because they are families, because they have children, that those people should carry more political power than the individual who doesn't have that same vested interest in the future of our country.
00:55:21.520 In general, in general, married people are smarter, more sharing, more mature, just, they have to think about more than just themselves.
00:55:41.080 And they have to think about, well, man, what am I leaving my kids?
00:55:45.660 And so, that's going to make them a more informed and a more move-away-from-your-feelings voter.
00:55:55.040 And all of this individual stuff, whether man or woman, that's when feelings start creeping in.
00:56:02.540 And so, feelings driving decisions as important as public policies, it's a horrible mistake.
00:56:13.500 And we've seen that because look at the insanity we've invited in.
00:56:18.500 Oh, you know what?
00:56:19.380 I'm a boy, I'm a man, but I feel like a woman, so I want you all to treat me like a woman.
00:56:27.240 We can't have a world that runs on feelings.
00:56:29.820 It leads to chaos.
00:56:31.920 And we need it based on logic and reason and, like, what's best for the people that are coming behind me.
00:56:40.160 And that's what parents have to think about all the time.
00:56:45.640 And so, I really, I care, but not nearly as much as people think about the Democrat-Republican thing. 0.95
00:56:52.220 You know, all these politicians are corrupt.
00:56:56.920 They're serving their own self-interest.
00:56:59.880 I don't think Republicans can fix deep-rooted spiritual problems that we have.
00:57:07.060 Only, we can't solve spiritual problems with political solutions.
00:57:12.620 And one of the, you know, I just had this conversation yesterday with the ministers to come on my show on Wednesdays.
00:57:19.700 But one of the greatest tests of faith, one of the greatest rites of passage for faith, one of the things that improves people's faith the most is marriage.
00:57:32.400 And so, when people are going through that rite of passage of marriage and they learn in their eyes, the scales really come off their eyes because they have to step into their wife's shoes.
00:57:44.520 They have to step into their kids' shoes.
00:57:46.200 They have to step into their grandparents and all these other shoes.
00:57:48.360 These people are so wise, I would be fine with them deciding what's best for all of us rather than a group of individuals saying, you know, Jason Whitlock likes ice cream.
00:58:03.320 And so, we should have a tax or some kind of discount on ice cream because I like that.
00:58:10.180 Yeah, I totally see what you're saying.
00:58:12.560 I mean, I think we would both agree, like, the problem is so much deeper and so multifaceted.
00:58:18.440 I absolutely agree with you that we should be doing everything that we can to incentivize the formation of steady marriages, marriage between a man and a woman and children, and that there should be incentives for that.
00:58:32.020 Absolutely.
00:58:33.460 I don't think that we are in a place where that is even, like, where moving in a different direction is even feasible.
00:58:41.740 It's just we are so hyper-individualistic and we, yeah, we've got so many issues.
00:58:50.680 But where, so I don't know, I have to think about it more.
00:58:53.220 I don't think that I, I don't know if I'm fully on board with what you're saying, but I do agree that there should be a structure in place absolutely to do everything that we can to incentivize marriage and to incentivize those strong families.
00:59:08.520 And so I'm glad that you explained it, because I think a lot of people were running with that headline.
00:59:14.980 Go ahead.
00:59:15.680 It's not just incentivize.
00:59:17.080 I want to empower married people because they've been disempowered.
00:59:24.160 Firstly, everything that the government comes up with is how can we make it easier on the irresponsible?
00:59:32.340 And, and I'm just, married people, if they had the power, they just wouldn't allow that.
00:59:40.340 Right.
00:59:40.900 And so I believe in miracles.
00:59:43.240 I really do.
00:59:44.440 And you're right.
00:59:45.200 Like, in this environment, how could you ever get that?
00:59:48.580 But it's going to take a miracle to fix how far we've fallen.
00:59:53.720 And, and, and, you know, so one of the miracles I'm praying for is take away my right to vote, take away all these individual rights to vote.
01:00:02.600 Let's go back.
01:00:03.840 It used to exist.
01:00:05.160 We used to, one man, he had to own a little property or land or whatever.
01:00:09.460 He represented the family.
01:00:10.860 And again, in this day and age, I'd be like, okay, Allie, you and your husband, y'all can decide who votes.
01:00:17.200 But, you know, there's a vote for family.
01:00:19.960 And then I'd probably even give a little extra voting power to married couples with kids. 1.00
01:00:26.380 Every time you got another kid, you probably get a little bit, one and a quarter vote, one and a half vote, 1.7.
01:00:34.600 And the next thing you know, you've got enough kids, you've got two votes.
01:00:37.240 Yeah.
01:00:38.220 Let them decide.
01:00:39.280 I mean, it is absolutely possible for it to be too easy to vote in a country.
01:00:43.560 And it is too easy to vote in the United States.
01:00:46.840 I mean, you don't even have to be a citizen in all cases.
01:00:49.580 Like in some local elections in some states, you don't even have to be a citizen.
01:00:53.420 And so you have representation without taxation in some cases, which is absolutely ridiculous.
01:00:57.940 We have some of the loosest and craziest laws when it comes to voting.
01:01:01.660 And the very people who say that they care about democracy are the people who say that protecting democracy means absolutely anyone can vote no matter what.
01:01:09.880 Even if you believe in a pure democracy, that's not what democracy means.
01:01:13.320 In order to protect democracy, you have to protect citizenship.
01:01:16.840 And of course, we live in a representative democracy, which isn't a pure democracy, which is even further reason to try to protect it.
01:01:23.520 I mean, I know you're not allowed to have any sort of like tests that someone has to pass in order to vote, but it seems to me like it would make sense that you should have to be able to pass a basic civics test, like a high school civics test in order to vote.
01:01:38.400 If you don't know anything about your country, how many states there are, who the president is of the United States, if you have no vested interests, like you said, property owning whatsoever, like I don't know.
01:01:51.320 I think that there should be parameters and we can have a debate and discussion about what those parameters should be.
01:01:56.140 But people who actually care about freedom and fair representation should also care about the parameters surrounding that representation.
01:02:04.580 So I guess we'll end on that.
01:02:07.040 That's an ongoing debate.
01:02:08.560 And I agree with you that there are miracles that have to be done in order to preserve our country and to preserve the family.
01:02:14.920 So thank you for the work that you're doing to help do that again, fearless army roll call.com.
01:02:20.880 Everyone go out, check out Jason's show, especially those P Diddy episodes.
01:02:24.660 If you want to deep dive on all of that, anything else you want to say, Jason?
01:02:29.340 Thank you so much for having me, Allie.
01:02:32.780 I've already endorsed your pit bull argument.
01:02:37.380 So Allie, you're awesome.
01:02:40.400 And I'm honored to be on your show.
01:02:42.640 So, you know, you and Lauren Chin inspire me every day.
01:02:47.260 And it's what people think I'm sexist.
01:02:49.780 I'm not.
01:02:51.060 I just there's just certain women that I want everybody to be like you. 1.00
01:02:55.860 And if they were, I'd never complain.
01:02:59.600 Thanks, Jason.
01:03:00.880 Thanks.
01:03:01.380 I appreciate it.
01:03:02.760 Well, have a great show today and have a great rest of your week.
01:03:06.580 Thank you.
01:03:12.640 Thank you.