Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - Ep 998 ｜ Methodists Change Their Pronouns to Was⧸Were

00:00:00.000 The United Methodist Church has now fully officially embraced LGBTQ ideology.

00:00:07.300 We've got the breakdown and analysis and biblical response to that on today's episode of Relatable,

00:00:12.620 as well as a little ranking and rating of some Met Gala outfits from last night.

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00:00:30.000 Hey, guys. Welcome to Relatable. Happy Tuesday. Hope everyone is having a wonderful week so far.

00:00:43.960 Wow. Y'all have given me a big response and reaction to yesterday's episode. The vast majority of you,

00:00:51.700 Catholic and Protestant, we're super excited about it. Your comments were really respectful,

00:00:56.740 and I appreciate that so much. Of course, you're going to have people who are just angry that I did

00:01:04.160 not agree with Trent. Maybe some people, although I don't know if I saw this, but angry that Trent

00:01:10.540 didn't agree with me. But it really was a good faith discussion. I really like Trent Horn and

00:01:16.040 appreciate him so much. Obviously, extremely thoughtful and articulate. And I loved having

00:01:22.200 that conversation with him. And I hope to have more. And I hope that it was edifying for all of you.

00:01:27.780 I hope that you learned more about what I believe as a Reformed Protestant and what he believes as a

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00:02:05.700 is up to something on YouTube. All right. A couple other things. This Thursday, we've got our

00:02:11.020 thousandth episode of Relatable. What thousandth episode? I won't get all nostalgic on you right

00:02:17.560 now. I'll do that on Thursday. But we're doing a few things to celebrate and just to thank you guys

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00:02:39.560 voicemail. I think, how long is it, Brie? How long do they have? Like two minutes?

00:02:44.460 Yeah. But it'd be great if they could stick to like 30 seconds.

00:02:47.840 30 seconds. Okay. We should have said that probably on the Instagram posts because I got

00:02:52.800 some messages from y'all being like, it cut me off. I'm sorry. You can leave more than one if you want

00:02:57.300 to, but it's best if you keep it within like the 30 to 60 second range because we can't listen to

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00:03:08.460 sweet as possible. It would be better for you to leave multiple short voicemails than one long

00:03:14.700 voicemail. So here's what we want to hear from you. Has your mind been changed on any topic from

00:03:22.740 listening to the show, either something that I've said or something one of my guests said? What has

00:03:27.800 been your favorite episode, guest, or segment? How long have you been listening? What does the show

00:03:33.440 mean to you? Um, give us your best. Would you rather that doesn't have anything to do with the

00:03:39.660 show? I just like hearing it. Literally my husband and I played, would you rather last night? I get

00:03:44.280 more enjoyment personally of thinking of them. I can't even get through my question because I'm

00:03:49.780 wheezing, laughing, can't catch my breath crying as I'm imagining the scenario that I'm coming up with

00:03:55.520 in my head. So that's really just for my enjoyment. The other questions really aren't as much for me,

00:04:01.560 although of course it's going to offer us encouragement, uh, in the relatable crew,

00:04:06.920 but it's also for all the listeners and viewers out there to hear from people who share the same

00:04:14.120 concerns, who have the same values as you do, who are raising a respectful ruckus, uh, for their

00:04:20.420 children, for their communities, for the next generation, who are sharing the arrows, who have

00:04:26.200 all the same fears, but hopes and dreams in a lot of ways as you do. And just remember that you're not

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00:04:41.040 mention all of the other people out there who don't listen to relatable, who are a part of the same

00:04:46.960 battle and on the same front line. So, um, it's also meant to be just encouraging to you as you

00:04:53.180 remember the community that we have among our related bros and related bells. I'm still changing

00:04:59.380 it. I haven't decided related bells or related gals. Also just to tease this out, I've got one 0.97

00:05:05.440 really big announcement headed your way. I think by next week, I can't say the exact date yet because I

00:05:11.840 don't know. It's going to be a really big announcement, something that we have never done before.

00:05:17.060 It's not like anything that I've ever presented to you before. And I'm so excited about it.

00:05:23.000 And I will talk about it here first before I even talk about it on social media, just for you guys.

00:05:29.480 I am so pumped. Biggest announcement that I have ever done. And some of you guys have given me some

00:05:34.880 guesses as to what that is. Some of them very funny, like a relatable cruise. That's a great idea.

00:05:42.940 That's a great, I cannot confirm nor deny. I'm just saying it's a great idea. One of you said that

00:05:49.380 I'm going to cut my own bangs on YouTube live, which I love not going to happen. I'll just go

00:05:55.780 ahead and let you know a spoiler. It's not that it's much bigger and better. So we've got lots of

00:06:01.740 fun stuff coming up. Remember that voicemail number 682-503-1369 answer some of the questions that I gave

00:06:09.260 you. All right. Now we've got to talk about all this craziness that is going on in the United

00:06:17.560 Methodist Church. The United Methodist Church is not united. It's actually the Divided Methodist Church. 0.93

00:06:23.660 And we're going to talk exactly about what is going on there and what it means.

00:06:39.260 All right. We briefly alluded to what's happening in the UMC, the United Methodist Church denomination

00:06:49.260 yesterday when I was talking to Trent Horn, but we just didn't have time to get into all of it. And so

00:06:54.940 I want to let you know what is going on. Now you might remember several years ago, there was a split

00:07:01.180 in the United Methodist Church and it was over this issue, the LGBTQ issue, the issue of whether the

00:07:08.640 church should be so-called gay affirming, but really it also had to do with gay clergy. And I'm

00:07:15.220 talking openly gay, affirming homosexuality, homosexual relationships as what they would call 0.85

00:07:24.040 holy, normal, fine, on the same plane as a heterosexual, actual marriage. So this has been

00:07:33.640 a long time in the making. This controversy has been for several years, even before a few years ago

00:07:41.660 when they split over this issue. I actually remember that was one of the first times that we really

00:07:51.400 delved into the gay marriage quote unquote issue and really looked at what the Bible says about this.

00:08:01.820 Not the first time, but I think one of the first episodes where we really talked about this in

00:08:06.900 depth from a biblical perspective. And interestingly, the episode, this is the only time this has ever

00:08:13.600 happened. The episode wouldn't upload to Spotify or actually it went up on Spotify and then it was

00:08:21.060 taken down. It's interesting. That's actually on my Wikipedia page that I didn't even, I don't remember

00:08:26.600 thinking it was that big of a deal or that scandalous at the time. It was just like big tech doing its

00:08:31.400 thing, but I guess it was enough of a thing that it made it to my Wikipedia page. But that did happen.

00:08:37.820 Thankfully, it is back up there. So we'll link in the description if you want to go listen to that.

00:08:41.960 But the controversy continues. Last Wednesday, delegates at the United Methodist Church General

00:08:47.020 Conference in Charlotte, North Carolina voted to overturn the church's historic discipline and

00:08:51.740 doctrine on homosexuality and so-called same-sex marriage. Now, let me just know,

00:08:57.600 why do I say so-called? Why do I say quote unquote? Why can't I just say same-sex marriage?

00:09:03.180 Now, I might, you might hear me say same-sex marriage or gay marriage just because that is

00:09:07.700 the colloquial term. And you know what I'm saying. You know that I'm talking about in the eyes of the

00:09:14.200 law, it is a marriage. But the reason I typically caveat it in that way or describe it in that way is

00:09:20.760 because it's not actually a marriage. God created marriage. He created the world. He defined marriage in the

00:09:26.720 very first chapter of the first book of the Bible as between one man and one woman. That is, of course, 0.51

00:09:32.140 reflective of the marriage between the bride of Christ, which is the church, and the bridegroom,

00:09:39.260 which is Christ himself. We see that painted throughout the Bible. And of course, the Bible

00:09:44.320 ends with that marriage, the marriage supper of Christ and his church. And so the Bible starts with

00:09:51.500 the marriage. It ends with the marriage. God alone created it. God alone defines it.

00:09:55.260 The law can't redefine it. You can change the legal implications and the consequences of two men or 0.68

00:10:02.820 two women coming together in what is referred to legally as marriage. But you cannot fundamentally

00:10:11.000 change the definition of marriage because the state did not create it. So that's why you hear me say

00:10:17.560 so-called quote-unquote. You sometimes will hear gay mirage as kind of a play on words because it is not,

00:10:24.760 in fact, by definition, a marriage. Moving on. By the way, this summary that we are giving you

00:10:30.280 comes from a few places. It comes from the Christian Post. It also comes from World Magazine

00:10:34.580 by Dr. Al Mohler. So it was approved by a 692 to 51 vote without a word of formal debate. The measure

00:10:43.680 approved removing the language that prohibited the ordination of self-avowed practicing homosexuals

00:10:50.200 from the Book of Discipline. Since 1984, the UMC Book of Discipline has prohibited the ordination of

00:10:55.800 homosexuals, with many progressives in mainline Protestant denomination openly refusing to enforce

00:11:03.020 or follow the restriction. So mainline Protestant is always going to be left-leaning, is always going to

00:11:12.080 be more progressive as opposed to what is typically referred to as evangelical Protestant. So even

00:11:18.920 though I—the word evangelical, it can mean so many different things. I would be categorized as

00:11:25.800 evangelical even though within Christian circles we would make a distinction between evangelical

00:11:30.520 and Reformed. But for the purpose of statistics, for the purpose of differentiating between mainline

00:11:36.220 Protestant and evangelical Protestant, I am an evangelical. Evangelicals are always more 1.00

00:11:41.660 biblical and conservative than mainline Protestants. So mainline Protestants within this UMC denomination

00:11:48.460 have been openly refusing to enforce or follow this restriction that has been in the Book of Discipline.

00:11:54.500 Over the past several years, the UMC has experienced intense debate over whether to change various rules

00:12:00.200 in its Book of Discipline regarding LGBT individuals. In 2019, the Methodists voted to strengthen

00:12:06.140 their denomination's statement on marriage. The practice of homosexuality is incompatible with 1.00

00:12:11.840 Christian teaching. Therefore, self-vowed practices in homosexuals are not to be certified as candidates,

00:12:17.360 ordained as ministers, or appointed to serve in the United Methodist Church. That's the controversy

00:12:22.140 that we covered a few years ago that got us, it seems, kicked off Spotify for a period of time.

00:12:28.860 According to Dr. Moeller, the conservatives believed they could force a division of the church and the

00:12:34.200 liberals would leave to start their own LGBTQ affirming denomination. In reality, the conservatives

00:12:39.100 became outnumbered. Throughout 2022 and 2023, no less than 7,000 churches left the United Methodist

00:12:46.700 Church. In some conferences, regions, like the one centered in Dallas, Texas, close to 70% of the churches

00:12:54.000 left. So really interesting that the conservatives were outnumbered in 2019 when they made the vote,

00:13:01.120 and since then, so many churches have left the UMC after they established themselves as a liberal

00:13:06.160 mainline Protestant denomination. What was left of the UMC rushed into abandoning historic Christianity

00:13:12.760 and joined the LGBTQ revolution, which was clearly seen at the General Conference in Charlotte this year.

00:13:19.420 Even before the historic vote was taken, speakers introduced themselves by name, gender identity,

00:13:24.940 preferred pronouns. So basically what has happened is that progressives, after they basically took over the UMC in

00:13:35.980 2019, they have hollowed out the Methodist church, the Methodist denomination, and have decided we are going to

00:13:44.700 abandon Christianity. We're going to abandon church history. We are going to abandon our creeds. 1.00

00:13:50.100 We are going to abandon the Bible altogether, and we are going to then, in essence, abandon Christianity, 0.99

00:14:00.580 and we are going to remake this denomination into our image. So really at this point, it's like the

00:14:09.200 Episcopalian church. It is like Unitarianism, which can't even be—it doesn't even qualify as a Christian 0.89

00:14:18.620 denomination. And they've said, you know what, we want to continue the pretense of religion.

00:14:23.540 We want to continue to call ourselves Christians. We want to continue to go to church. We want to

00:14:28.460 continue to say that we are in some kind of position of leadership, a part of clergy within

00:14:36.700 the United Methodist Church, but we don't actually want to follow any semblance of Christianity. So

00:14:43.780 that's what the United Methodist Church has done. And of course, this is always what happens when

00:14:49.080 you abandon scripture. When you decide that the Bible is not authoritative, when you decide that

00:14:55.460 your opinion or cultural changes or social whims have more authority than the Word of God, then you

00:15:05.880 will always end up conforming to the spirit of the age. And sexual depravity and the feelings that you

00:15:12.760 have, the lust that you have, of course, will take precedence over what God's Word says. You will

00:15:19.580 change the definitions of holiness. You will change the definitions of sin and repentance. You will

00:15:25.520 change the very definitions of right and wrong. Because essentially, people who do this, not just

00:15:31.820 within the United Methodist Church, but whatever flavor of Christianity someone is, when they decide

00:15:37.560 that the Word of God is not good enough, that it doesn't give us everything that we need for life of

00:15:41.960 life and godliness, that it is not a sufficient standard, then what happens is you replace

00:15:49.560 worshiping the God of scripture with the God of self. And when you worship the God of self, as I wrote

00:15:57.260 about in my book and as we've talked about several times, you elevate two main values, and that's

00:16:02.320 authenticity and autonomy. These two main values can be good values, but only when they are submissive to

00:16:10.980 God's standards. But when you worship the God of self and you elevate autonomy and authenticity to

00:16:18.200 these supreme positions, everything else must fall in line to these two things. So an example of what I

00:16:25.180 mean by that, if you worship the God of self and you supremely value autonomy, then you will literally

00:16:33.080 sacrifice your unborn child in the name of having autonomy over your own body. Autonomy to mean that

00:16:43.340 you have authority over your body, you have authority over your choices. And while again, that can be a good

00:16:53.520 value in that we believe that we should have autonomy separate from the government, autonomy taken all the way

00:17:02.500 to its logical end means that you are going to do whatever you want to do within your control,

00:17:09.600 no matter who and what that sacrifice is. And when you are worshiping the God of self, that means you

00:17:15.440 will literally sacrifice a child on the altar of your own autonomy. Authenticity is the same way.

00:17:23.200 Authenticity can be a good thing in that you don't want to be fake. You don't want to pretend to be

00:17:27.500 something that you're not or to know things that you don't know. Authenticity can be a good thing.

00:17:33.600 But when you elevate it too high, when you start to worship yourself, then authenticity becomes an

00:17:39.740 excuse to sin. For example, I want to be authentic to how I feel. So I want to identify as the opposite

00:17:48.420 sex because I must affirm my feelings because I worship myself. There's no higher standard than what I feel.

00:17:55.200 There's no higher standard than my own autonomy and authenticity. And so authenticity and autonomy

00:18:01.400 become excuses to sin when we exchange the God of scripture for the God of self. That's what's

00:18:08.980 happened here. That's what happens when all people decide that God's standard is not good enough

00:18:16.060 anymore. That it's not God who is love, but it's we who get to define love. That's what's happened to

00:18:22.100 the UMC. That's why they're losing so many members. Contrary to popular opinion, it is not conforming

00:18:28.620 to the world that wins unbelievers. That's what we hear a lot. That's the seeker-sensitive strategy 0.60

00:18:34.760 that if we look and sound more like the world, then we will attract more of the world. What you win

00:18:39.800 people with, though, is what you win people to. If you win people with worldliness, you are winning

00:18:45.600 them to worldliness. We are to win people with the cross, with the aroma of Christ. Romans 2, God's kindness

00:18:52.060 leads us to repentance, right? So it is not worldliness. It is not compromise. It is not conformity with the

00:18:59.960 world that is going to win people to Christ. And unfortunately, it seems like many people at the UMC just

00:19:08.340 don't understand that they don't care because they have entered into the wide gate rather than the

00:19:13.800 narrow one. And I'll show you this compilation of what it sounds like to be at one of these

00:19:21.840 conferences, one of these gatherings with the United Methodist Church. Again, this is before they

00:19:26.820 actually took the vote. These are the kinds of people that now comprise United Methodist Church and

00:19:31.520 are making these kinds of decisions. Okay, so here is this general conference in Charlotte. Here's

00:19:49.700 what these leaders of the United Methodist Church sound like. Sot one. Becca Gorel, clergy, New England

00:19:59.360 and clubhouse. This is more stringent annual conference she, her, hers queer, white, adult. I'm very sorry to do this. 1.00

00:20:09.480 Bishop Thomas Lang, Deacon, Greater New Jersey adult white male. Thank you, bishop. Good morning, friends.

00:20:14.440 I am Scott Brewer, a cisgendered white, lay, male delegate from the Great Plains conference.

00:20:19.940 My name is Carol Zagzma, clergy delegate from Minnesota, white, female, gay, adult, with pronouns she and her.

00:20:29.360 Oh, my goodness. These people, they just want so badly to be special. That's what it comes across

00:20:39.660 like to me. They just really want to be special. They want to be unique. They want to be

00:20:45.920 different. I always think about what started this desire to be identified in the most niche

00:20:53.780 categories. I know some people are like, no, this is just who they really are. This is their

00:20:57.940 authentic selves. They're just showing up and taking space and sharing their truth. I know.

00:21:03.280 Yada, yada, yada. All that is nonsense, by the way. It's vapid, harmful nonsense. I always think

00:21:08.700 it kind of goes back. Well, it probably goes back a lot farther than this. You could argue it goes

00:21:12.620 all the way back to the garden, worshiping the God of self. I think about those Disney princess

00:21:18.500 quizzes or those personality test quizzes that were on social media and on Facebook and probably

00:21:24.120 on like Disney.com at the turn of the millennium. And I think that we got so obsessed with like

00:21:30.460 these personality tests and finding like what our color is, the mood rings, the power bracelets,

00:21:36.060 like all of these things that were just feeding our narcissism and telling us you are unique. You

00:21:41.700 are special. You are so different. No one else is exactly like this. That's what I think of when

00:21:46.660 these people are announcing all of their little intersectional identities is that we just want so

00:21:53.200 badly to be a part of something that is like special and different and not a part of the

00:21:58.040 mainstream. And that's exacerbated when you have this meta narrative, this erroneous meta narrative

00:22:03.600 that says like if you are just a white cisgendered so-called, of course, that's a nonsense turn that

00:22:10.380 was created by like a weird groomer guy. But if you are just a white, normal, heterosexual,

00:22:20.040 Christian, conservative guy, then you are an oppressor. And of course, if you are a white woman 0.95

00:22:26.280 who is also conservative, then you are a part of the Handmaid's Tale enablers, blah, blah, blah, blah,

00:22:32.440 blah. And so in order to be a part of like either championing the marginalized or on the side of the

00:22:37.740 marginalized, you have to take on all of these various identities. And again, these identities

00:22:42.680 usurp or they supersede God's authority and who God says that we are. And it really is a matter of

00:22:52.280 like going all the way back to Genesis 1. As we've talked about before, like transgenderism is a direct 1.00

00:22:59.300 affront to God's authority because only God can declare something to be, can only create through

00:23:08.460 declaration, let there be light and there was light. Transgenderism says that you can say, 0.59

00:23:14.740 let there be female. I am female and become female. And that is a lie from the pit of hell. And that's 0.94

00:23:22.540 why I also don't declare pronouns because you are assenting to this ridiculous idea, this false idea

00:23:29.740 that you can become something by declaration or that your gender is a matter of declaration or

00:23:35.820 announcement. And it's not, it's innate. Anyway, let's get some background on the United Methodist

00:23:42.720 Church that I think is important. And a lot of this comes from Dr. Al Mohler and World Magazine.

00:23:48.220 So if you look at John Wesley, who established the United Methodist Church, it was not his intention to

00:23:53.100 establish his own church. It was his goal to lead a holiness movement, a kind of revival within the

00:23:58.740 Church of England, which he really did. Along with his brother, Charles, they wrote hymns that were

00:24:07.180 really beautiful. They did a lot of good. They were eventually dubbed Methodist as a term of derision,

00:24:12.960 actually, due to the methodical approach taken by Wesley's devotional societies. Methodism quickly

00:24:18.420 made its way to the colonies. Wesley himself came to Savannah, Georgia in 1735. He was loyal to Britain

00:24:24.520 and the Church of England. So as the War of Independence began, Americans were left to

00:24:28.440 establish their own church. So kind of taking his teachings, but they weren't under his direct

00:24:35.120 guidance. The Methodist Episcopal Church was established in 1784 in Baltimore and spread like

00:24:40.540 wildfire. Before long, the Methodist would be the largest single denominational movement in America 0.65

00:24:46.660 and remain strong well into the 20th century. But they were divided by the Civil War. And then the

00:24:51.840 Church reunited in 1938. And then they added the Evangelical United Brethren in 1968, forming the

00:24:59.500 United Methodist Church. They did appear united for decades. But then, as we have discussed,

00:25:06.480 there were liberal conservative tensions within the United Methodist Church at the end of the 20th

00:25:11.760 century. The same thing happened in the Southern Baptist Church, by the way, in the 1980s. The

00:25:16.200 conservatives won, though. It was the LGBTQ movement that eventually blew up the church, 1.00

00:25:21.000 as we've already discussed. And here's a quote from Dr. Mueller on this.

00:25:24.900 John Wesley's Holiness Movement, once America's largest denomination, now reduced to a shadow of

00:25:30.020 its former self, abandoned the Christian faith and established a new religion with the celebration of

00:25:34.800 LGBTQ sexuality at the center, a mighty movement that Wesley had founded to bring holiness and piety

00:25:41.600 to the Church of England, surrendered to the revolution, pushing the new sexuality and radical 0.88

00:25:46.100 gender ideologies. And it did so with gusto. And of course, so this is the end of the United 1.00

00:25:53.920 Methodist Church. Because again, this goes all the way back, not just to the passages about sexuality,

00:26:02.000 not just to Romans 1, not just 1 Corinthians 6, not just the verses in Leviticus that say a man lying

00:26:07.680 with another man is an abomination. It goes all the way back to Genesis 1, that God created the heavens 1.00

00:26:13.880 and the earth. Because if he created the heavens and the earth, that changes everything. What do we

00:26:18.240 always say? He alone says what is and what isn't, what's right and what's wrong, what's good and what's

00:26:22.360 bad, what's true and what's false, what a marriage is, what a woman is, when life begins and why it

00:26:27.560 matters. If he created all of this, then he has the authority to define all things. And if the God who

00:26:33.220 created all of this and has the authority to define all things and tells us that marriage is between a man

00:26:38.560 and a woman, as we read in Genesis 127, and gender is male and female, as we read in Genesis 127. And he

00:26:46.240 is also the God who is love, 1 John 4, 8, and everything he says and does, how he defines things,

00:26:52.640 the boundaries he puts in place are all also done in love. And this is the belief, the UMC departing from

00:27:00.640 biblical sexuality is the belief that they can actually out love God by disagreeing with him,

00:27:06.140 but you can't. Because you are not love, I am not love, God is love. Therefore, everything that he

00:27:12.480 does and says is done and said in love. And just a reminder, the alliteration that we always use,

00:27:19.980 biblical marriage between a man and a woman is rooted in creation, Genesis 127. It's reiterated

00:27:24.700 throughout scripture. For example, honor your father and mother. It's repeated by Jesus himself,

00:27:29.620 Matthew 19, 4 through 5. Have you not read that he, that in the beginning, he made the male

00:27:36.020 and female. As he is answering a question about divorce, he goes all the way back to creation

00:27:40.580 and defines marriage. It is a representative of Christ in the church. As we read in Ephesians

00:27:46.600 5, that the husband represents Christ, that the wife represents the church, and therefore it is

00:27:51.560 reflective of the gospel. The Bible starts with that marriage. It ends with a marriage. Marriage

00:27:56.180 between a man and a woman is an earthly representation of an eternal and spiritual heavenly reality. The marriage 0.67

00:28:01.660 between Christ and a church. Two men can't represent that. Two women can't represent that. That is why 1.00

00:28:06.380 it's so fundamental. That is why always when you see someone abandon what God says about sexuality and

00:28:13.120 about gender, they eventually abandon all of it. You just don't know very many people who can live 1.00

00:28:21.080 in that incongruence for very long, who say, yes, God's word is authoritative on John 14, 6, that says

00:28:28.860 that he is the way, the truth, and the life, and that no one can come to the Father except through

00:28:32.880 Christ, but it's not authoritative when it comes to sexuality. It's not authoritative when it comes

00:28:37.960 to creation. It's not authoritative when it comes to Ephesians 5 and the definition of marriage.

00:28:42.640 There are some people that try to live in that tension for a certain period of time. It never lasts

00:28:47.980 long. It never lasts long. Either God graciously sanctifies them into repentance and into

00:28:53.520 cohesiveness and congruence, or they are tempted away from the faith. And again, they enter that

00:29:01.100 wide gate. So they did try to have some kind of biblical support of their decision at this general

00:29:10.080 conference for the UMC James Howe. I think that's maybe how you pronounce his last name. He's a clergyman

00:29:17.800 from Western North Carolina. He gave a little bit of a speech saying, you know, this is why we must

00:29:26.160 compromise on this issue. That would be my phrasing, but why we must vote for full inclusion of the

00:29:33.260 LGBTQ people. Here's top three. Scripture enables us to keep our arms around all people who dream,

00:29:40.480 who are broken, who are seeking the grace and the mercy of God. We've talked a lot about regions here

00:29:46.340 in the region where I work. What we know is that cynics and young adults will not listen to us

00:29:54.700 talk about Jesus if we say that we do not condone people that they love and care about. They just shut

00:30:02.200 us out if we do this. I always suspect that the important Bible verse for the day might be Romans

00:30:07.040 chapter 8 verse 1. There is no condemnation in Christ Jesus. Okay, I just want to know quite a few

00:30:15.580 things there. First, on that last thing that he said, he misquoted it, and this is actually really

00:30:22.220 important. He said there is no condemnation in Christ Jesus. That's not what the verse says.

00:30:28.780 Romans 8 verse 1 says there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. For those who are in

00:30:36.660 Christ Jesus. For those who have been saved, as Ephesians 2 says, by grace through faith in Christ.

00:30:46.320 So for those of us who are Christians, who have been purchased, who by grace through faith have

00:30:53.700 been made alive in him, who have been saved, who are new creations by the grace and the mercy and the

00:30:59.520 power of God. For those of us, there is no condemnation because he who knew no sin became sin,

00:31:05.680 that we might become the righteousness of God. We are the righteousness of God, not because we have

00:31:11.500 merited that on our own, not because we have earned that, but because God's work on the cross

00:31:17.680 was sufficient for our holiness and our righteousness for our justification. So because we are justified

00:31:25.120 by faith in Christ, we are justified by his blood shed on the cross, there is no condemnation

00:31:32.680 for us. There is condemnation for those outside of Christ. Not just here, but in eternity.

00:31:41.980 And so that is wrong. There's no condemnation for anyone out there. So you're saying that Christianity 0.93

00:31:46.620 just offers moral relativism to people? That the Bible has no standards? That there's no definition

00:31:53.740 of holiness or sin? There's just no condemnation? Then why would anyone become a Christian? You can get 0.92

00:31:59.160 that from the world. Why go to church on Sunday when you can go to brunch? You can hear from anyone.

00:32:05.140 You can hear from the most staunch Satanist that there's no condemnation. What's different about

00:32:12.100 the gospel? What exactly is the good news if there is no condemnation for anyone ever? And another thing

00:32:19.780 that I want to address is something that I alluded to earlier when he says that we know that if we

00:32:31.980 don't condone gay people, people who identify as the opposite sex, people who identify as quote unquote

00:32:38.360 queer, then the skeptics, the cynics, the unbelievers will not listen to us. Look, that is a lie 1.00

00:32:48.400 almost as old as time. That we have to compromise in order to win, that we have to lie to people,

00:32:57.460 that we have to affirm the sin that God says is killing them in order to win them to the cross

00:33:04.600 of Christ. And I love this verse from 2 Corinthians 2 14, but thanks be to God who in Christ always leads

00:33:12.460 us in triumphal procession. And through us spreads the fragrance of the knowledge of him everywhere.

00:33:19.520 For we are the aroma of Christ to God among those who are being saved and among those who are perishing.

00:33:28.980 The aroma of Christ. The aroma of Christ to God among those who are being saved and among those who are

00:33:38.100 perishing. To one, a fragrance of death to death, to the other, a fragrance from life to life. Who is

00:33:45.020 sufficient for these things? For we are not like so many peddlers of God's word, but as men of sincerity,

00:33:50.680 as commissioned by God in the sight of God, we speak in Christ. Wow. That's a really big privilege.

00:33:59.060 That's a really big deal. That is our role. That is our privilege, that we are the aroma of Christ,

00:34:09.700 that we spread the knowledge of him, the knowledge of the gospel. And I'll also read you Romans 2 4,

00:34:22.140 or do you presume, presume on the riches of his kindness and forbearance and patience, not knowing

00:34:28.560 that God's kindness is meant to lead you to repentance. But because of your hard and impenitent

00:34:35.980 heart, you are storing up wrath for yourself on the day of wrath when God's righteous judgment will

00:34:43.060 be revealed. And of course, this is following Romans 1, which very explicitly says that relations

00:34:51.120 between two men or relations between two women are abominable, are dishonorable, are sinful.

00:34:57.940 So we could start, for example, in verse 24, although I think the whole chapter is relevant.

00:35:03.700 Therefore, God gave them up in the lust of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their

00:35:08.980 bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and 0.90

00:35:15.080 served the creature rather than the creator who is blessed forever. Amen. For this reason,

00:35:20.200 God gave them up to dishonorable passions, for their women exchanged natural relations for those that 1.00

00:35:25.540 are contrary to nature. And the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed 0.68

00:35:30.460 with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves

00:35:35.980 the due penalty for their error. And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up

00:35:45.340 to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness,

00:35:51.740 evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are

00:35:56.260 gossips, slanders, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents,

00:36:01.440 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. Though they know God's righteous decree that those who

00:36:07.880 practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them, but give approval to those who practice

00:36:14.240 them. All right. I want to play you one more thing on the approval side. Then I want to give you an

00:36:19.840 example of those who actually said, no, I'm opposing this. And this is not what we are going to stand for.

00:36:27.040 Don Higgins Wiggins-Hair, getting tongue-tied this morning, General Secretary of the UMC General

00:36:34.560 Commission on the Status and Role of Women, said following the LGBTQ affirming vote, this. Stop for it. 1.00

00:36:43.600 You did good work, very good work yesterday in our journey towards full inclusion.

00:36:50.000 You indeed set the table wider and pulled up some extra chairs at God's table, not ours, 0.99

00:36:59.320 for persons and voices that have been silenced too long.

00:37:03.500 Okay. So she is very emotional about that. I really pray for her repentance. She will be much

00:37:12.840 more emotional before the throne of God one day when she realizes this grievous error and encouraging

00:37:18.260 and enabling people to sin. And this is really encouraging people away from Christ, away from

00:37:25.820 the liberty that is given to us in Christ when he no longer makes us a slave or allows us to be a

00:37:31.760 slave of sin. We can be free from the oppression of our loss in Christ. That is the gospel. That is the

00:37:38.720 good news. But as I said, not everyone is for this.

00:37:42.720 All right. Let's go ahead and play sought to. In my country, Sierra Leone, we see graves of

00:38:06.860 people who had given their lives to maintaining the tradition of the church. If we want to be

00:38:13.500 Christ-like, we should be following the traditions of the church rather than the traditions, our local

00:38:19.280 traditions and our cultures in our local areas.

00:38:24.700 Yeah. So he is representative of many Africans in the United Methodist Church there who are saying no. 0.92

00:38:34.660 Okay. Not only have they seen how difficult it is to be a Christian in a Muslim-majority country,

00:38:40.920 a Christian in a place that doesn't accept Christianity, that truly persecutes, maligns, 1.00

00:38:47.500 even kills Christians, but they have also seen the physical effects of male and male sex. 0.51

00:38:57.880 And they understand its physical consequences as well as the spiritual consequences of sin.

00:39:08.460 And so I appreciate this guy standing up there and saying, look, we see the graves of people who have

00:39:16.580 given their lives to maintaining the tradition of the church. Now, one thing I will say, and I don't know

00:39:24.060 if this is just because there's a language issue or if this is truly what he meant, but it's more than

00:39:30.140 a tradition because a tradition is man-made. A tradition is arbitrary because it's dependent upon

00:39:38.640 what you want to do in a particular era or cultural moment. A tradition is passed down from ancestors,

00:39:46.200 from generation to generation, and there are great benefits to traditions.

00:39:50.020 But that's not what's being torn apart and destroyed here. What's being torn apart or attempted

00:39:59.920 to be torn apart is the very authority in the word of God. And that's a much bigger deal than tearing

00:40:06.520 down a tradition. Daryl Harrison pointed out that Sierra Leone is nearly 80% Muslim, yet this brother 1.00

00:40:13.940 comes to America and is in the minority at the convention of his own denomination. That's a

00:40:21.080 problem. That's a problem. So that's what's happening at the United Methodist Church. They are, of course,

00:40:29.800 not only progressive in that way, they are progressive in every way when it comes to social and so-called

00:40:36.840 racial justice. They discussed at this general conference how their commissions were monitoring

00:40:42.600 the event to keep proper decorum, respect for the rules of the gathering, and respect for diversity.

00:40:48.360 Dr. Reverend Arroyo, he is a gay man married to another reverend who is an ordained deacon in the

00:40:58.880 Methodist Church, and he asked delegates who addressed the event to state not only their name,

00:41:03.660 annual conference, and if they were a laity or clergy, but also their gender identity and racial or ethnic

00:41:09.280 identity. And also said it was important to avoid exclusively male language for God. Monitoring is

00:41:21.460 not policing, he said. Be respectful of the choice of language that is used, including avoiding that

00:41:28.040 exclusively male language. And then he also presented their report card and the diversity of officers

00:41:34.560 elected to the conference's legislative committees, then scolded attendees to work a little bit harder

00:41:41.580 on inclusion with language and interpretation. And, you know, this so often happens that this racial

00:41:47.820 nonsense, this DEI nonsense goes hand in hand with compromise on LGBTQ issues. They're not the same thing, 0.99

00:41:56.620 but the race is so often conflated or placed in the same category as so-called gender identity and

00:42:05.460 sexuality. And obviously there's a difference because it's not a sin to have any skin color or to have

00:42:11.600 any ethnicity, and you're all equally made in the image of God, and you have equal access to the Father

00:42:17.920 through Christ as a Christian. And so it's not the same, of course, as someone sinning against God

00:42:24.420 through their sexuality or denying their biological reality. But both of these kinds of, both like

00:42:32.500 non-white people and people who identify as LGBTQ are placed in the same category of oppression.

00:42:38.880 And so they are placed under the same marginalized and oppressed umbrella, and therefore the same

00:42:46.180 mechanisms are employed to purport to defend them. And so very often through,

00:42:54.420 what I think is the vehicle of what I typically refer to as toxic empathy, people are convinced

00:43:01.920 that to be loving, you have to

00:43:06.260 employ these kinds of

00:43:08.220 DEI programs that say that they protect

00:43:12.460 gay people, trans people, black people, brown people, immigrants.

00:43:16.540 They're all kind of placed in the same bucket. And too many people kind of

00:43:20.320 fall into that trap of thinking that to be empathetic, we have to believe in this victim

00:43:28.300 mentality and treat people as if they are oppressed when they are in fact not, and that we can't

00:43:33.560 differentiate between what is a sin and what is simply an ethnicity, and also convinces us to buy 0.81

00:43:39.660 into the lie that all non-white people are oppressed and all white people are privileged. That's not true.

00:43:45.560 This nonsense seems to all go together, and we have to be super discerning about that.

00:43:52.200 Okay, so UMC is super happy. This is how we're going to end this.

00:43:56.360 But they're super excited about this, and they decided, of course, not to end their conference

00:44:03.560 with a worship song, praising God. But with

00:44:07.360 this number, it's not five.

00:44:09.560 Okay, so that is that. That's that. So that's what's happening in the United Methodist Church.

00:44:34.460 Um, the gates of hell will not prevail against the church. There's always been compromise. There's

00:44:41.740 always been temptation. There's always been sin. Remember, the gate is wide that leads to hell,

00:44:46.800 and the gate is narrow that leads to eternal life in Christ. And again, that's not earned by our own

00:44:53.620 works, by our own perfection, but it is won by Christ on the cross. Praise God for that. And those who are

00:45:02.520 truly saved, will be sanctified, and will gain the knowledge and the wisdom of his word that is

00:45:11.020 necessary to live a life of godliness. And so it's very discouraging. But we already see that the UMC

00:45:20.300 is a shadow of its former self, and that denominations like this end up dying, and that God will protect

00:45:30.980 his people. He is still a good shepherd. The sheep know his voice, and we follow him. And that doesn't mean

00:45:40.060 there will never be theological disagreements, because of course there will be. Um, but he is going to

00:45:46.980 preserve his people, and we can trust that. And going back to Romans 8, and what Romans 8 actually says,

00:45:54.360 nothing can separate us, God's people, who've been purchased by him from the love of Christ.

00:46:02.160 Um, and read that end of chapter, of chapter 8. It defines who God's people are really, really well

00:46:08.420 and explicitly. All right, before we move into just a short light-hearted segment about the Met Gala,

00:46:13.560 which I know some of you like that when we talk about people's outfits, some of you don't. So you can

00:46:18.440 just, you can just end the episode here if you don't want to hear this. But if you're watching

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00:46:28.120 That would be weird. Just celebrities' clothes. Um, then you can stick around for that. Also,

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00:47:17.920 Okay, Brie. The Met Gala was last night, right? Right. Last night. And, um, tell me what,

00:47:38.620 what the theme was. The Garden of Time. Can you explain that to me? It was the Garden of Time.

00:47:43.240 You know, these themes are, like, so, I feel like they're, they're so convoluted. And the,

00:47:49.420 to be fair, the goal is it's open to interpretation. Yeah. So the celebrities interpret it. But it is a

00:47:56.620 book, uh, The Garden of Time is a story written by J.G. Ballard. And it's, I don't think it even

00:48:04.080 matters what it's about because people just took the theme and said it's garden themed. That's what I

00:48:09.940 gathered. It's a short story by J.G. Ballard. I'm sure it's weird. Uh, that concerns a couple

00:48:14.920 living in a beautiful home. A mob is slowly making its way toward them, bringing destruction. So it's

00:48:21.120 always very dramatic. Um, what happens at the Met Gala? Do you know? What are they doing?

00:48:27.160 It's, yeah, that's a good question. Um, I mean, it's a fundraiser, so I think it's a dinner.

00:48:32.340 Um, and. And they're raising funds for the Met. Yeah, for the Met, the Costume Institute at the

00:48:38.900 Metropolitan Museum of Art. Yeah. Okay. Um, uh, so Sleeping Beauties, Reawakening, Fashion,

00:48:46.600 The Garden of Time. Okay, got it. So there were some goods, there were some bads. And by the way,

00:48:52.640 you know what? It's okay if we're a little bit judgmental about these outfits because they wear

00:48:58.600 them to be judged. That is like a whole part of this before they go in. They're very dramatic

00:49:04.240 and they wear purposely weird stuff. A lot of them do. Not all of them. So it's okay for us to say,

00:49:09.880 oh, that's weird. All right. Um, okay. Cole Escola. Escola. I don't know who this is. Okay. Is this a

00:49:17.080 man, Bree? It is. He is. He looks like a, like someone getting eloped in the 1940s, a bride getting

00:49:26.340 eloped in the 1940s. But also kind of like a child. Also a child, which. Child bride. A child 0.90

00:49:32.580 bride, which is very concerning in a lot of ways. He's wearing, for those of you who are listening,

00:49:37.400 like a T-length straight skirt with a white blazer. It's all white. Yeah. This is the Garden

00:49:45.180 of Time. This is the Garden of Time. Ugly. Um, okay. One through ten. One being the best this time.

00:49:54.620 Ten being the worst. Um, oh, this is ten. This is awful. Yeah. This is really bad. Ten.

00:50:00.980 Okay. Ten being the worst. Okay. Yeah. Uh, Dan Levy. I know who this is. Let's see him. Is he also

00:50:06.280 wearing a skirt? No. Um, I have such a hard time seeing on this monitor. Um, are those pantaloons?

00:50:13.120 They're pantaloons. It's a, it's just a suit, but it's like, it kind of ombres from black to like

00:50:19.740 flower pattern. Okay. Oh, it all together? Like what? It's a jumpsuit? Like the bottom

00:50:25.240 of, no, no, no. It's a jacket and pants, but the bottom of the jacket is like the flower

00:50:30.460 pattern also. Okay. So it looks like it's one. Got it. Thanks, George. Um, okay. Uh, it's

00:50:37.480 not as bad as the last one, but I obviously don't like men wearing, um, floral curtains.

00:50:45.080 So I'm going to go, I'm going to go with like an eight though. Wow. Ten being

00:50:50.560 the worst. Okay. I actually really like this one. I agree. I don't like men wearing floral

00:50:55.760 patterns, but I think for what it is, it's kind of nice. It's fine. Okay. So what's

00:51:02.320 your number? I'd say, I'd say four. Okay. One being the best. Okay. Gwendolyn Christie.

00:51:15.080 Okay. I can't imagine that the purpose was to look good. So I'm trying to like read it

00:51:23.160 based on that. Um, I don't know. I don't know who this is. She's an actor. Actress. Actress.

00:51:32.980 I don't know. Uh, she kind of looks like the queen of hearts. Is that what she's going 0.97

00:51:40.980 for? She definitely looks like a character out of Owls in Wonderland. I was thinking hunger,

00:51:45.200 the hunger games. Also that. Okay. Sure. Why not? 6.8 Gwendolyn. Wow. Okay. I'll, I'll

00:51:51.980 give it a seven. Okay. Um, bad bunny. What bad bunny is a man. I feel like I said this last

00:51:59.240 year too. I thought that bunny was a woman. Um, this is bad bunny can confirm it. What is, 0.66

00:52:06.520 is he a singer rapper? He's a singer. I don't think he raps. Yeah. He's a singer. Okay. I'm

00:52:13.940 probably sorry to assume that. Um, okay. I mean, this is the best masculine look that we've seen.

00:52:20.240 It looks like he's wearing a Mary Jane tap shoes a little bit. Yeah. Uh, uh, I don't

00:52:28.760 know. I guess a six. It's supposed to be bizarre. I don't know what the hat is. The

00:52:37.780 hat's like a poofy. I don't even know what the, what the right term is. I think this look 0.99

00:52:44.180 is totally goofy. Okay. Which I guess is what he's going for. Yeah. Okay. Dan Levy

00:52:50.520 did look better than him. Yeah. I don't know. Okay. What's your number? I'm going to say

00:52:56.220 eight. Okay. Ten being the worst. Okay. Lana Del Rey. I know who that is. Okay. Okay. What

00:53:08.600 do you think she's trying to do? She, uh, she's caught, she's caught in a net. I don't

00:53:14.000 know. I mean, those are like, um, branches, I think that are coming up. Okay. Maybe it looks

00:53:19.720 like a tree with cobwebs in it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, I kind of think it's cool because

00:53:27.380 it's obvious like the, the veil is probably, is trying to be something. It's not like she

00:53:32.720 thinks it's like flattering, but the dress itself is pretty. Oh. Okay. One being the

00:53:39.680 best, probably my favorite so far. So I'll go with like a three and a half. Okay. I'm

00:53:45.960 going to do three. I like it. Okay. Okay. Cool. Uh, wisdom Kai, a model. What? That's Lil Nas X. 1.00

00:53:56.200 It's not. I thought the same thing. It's not. What? Okay. That's so funny because I saw

00:54:02.960 someone on Twitter being like, I have no idea who this is, but he slayed. I was like, I'm 0.88

00:54:07.140 so in the know. It's Lil Nas X. Wow. Okay. Not wisdom Kai. Yeah. Um, is that a dress? Is

00:54:13.700 that pants? What's going on? It's pants, but he's got like a huge coat over it. So it kind

00:54:19.420 of gives it a dress effect, but I don't know. You probably can't see it, but there are little

00:54:23.720 like burn holes in all of it. Oh, I thought they were just polka dots. Um, okay. I kind

00:54:32.220 of like the, like the burn holes for the passage of time. It's like the, like this outfit has,

00:54:41.660 it's like moth balls have eaten away at the outfit because it's been, you know, put in storage

00:54:48.880 for a long time. Yeah. So I kind of get that. I kind of like that now he is kind of dressed

00:54:54.720 like a woman. Yeah. So I don't like that. So I have to deduct some points. So I'm going 1.00

00:55:00.920 to have to go with like a 6.2 probably. Okay. I don't like this one. I say eight. Okay. I

00:55:08.500 think he looks kind of evil. He does definitely the red and black, but I like your assessment.

00:55:12.860 That's what I didn't think. Yeah. I think they're going with something there. Yeah. Okay. Mindy

00:55:17.000 Kaling. I saw this one on Twitter. Okay. I have just like so many comments about her, how different 0.71

00:55:25.940 she looks. I know she looks so different, which kind of makes me sad. She's put in a lot of effort

00:55:32.640 to look completely different than her natural self. But, um, I actually like this dress. I think

00:55:37.920 it looks beautiful on her. I don't know how it fits the theme at all, but well, I wish

00:55:45.380 we don't have like a profile shot, right? Because like the little thing behind her is huge. Um, 0.99

00:55:51.180 yeah, no, we don't have a profile shot. Um, okay. I'm going to go with one being the best.

00:55:56.280 I'm probably going to give this a 3.8. I like it a little less than Lana Del Rey. Wow. Okay.

00:56:03.080 I feel like it looks like she got caught up in a pair of pantyhose. I could see that. Yeah. And

00:56:09.420 maybe she did. She, she may have. So I actually, I'm going to give it an eight. Whoa. I'm a hater.

00:56:15.700 Whoa. Okay. I thought that it was flattering on her. Wow. Okay. Ellie Fanning. Is this Dakota

00:56:21.540 Fanning sister? Yes. Elle Fanning. Yeah. Oh, Elle Fanning. What is she in? Yeah. This one is kind

00:56:27.440 of hard to see, but it's not. Sorry. I meant like shows and stuff. Oh, oh, uh, she, well,

00:56:33.260 she was in Sleeping Beauty, the movies, um, something probably on HBO or something that

00:56:39.320 I haven't watched. So she was in Sleeping Beauty. She should have ate and she did it. You

00:56:43.460 don't think so? No. I love this. I, it's supposed to look like she's wearing glass and I think

00:56:50.240 it's really cool. I guess I'm kind of judging people based on the theme too. Yeah. I mean,

00:56:54.720 she looks beautiful. Obviously this is extremely flattering on her. She looks gorgeous. Yeah.

00:57:00.600 But I, I would have maybe thought of something a little bit more theme-y for the Sleeping Beauty

00:57:07.100 herself. That's fair. It should have been her night. You're right about that. But she does

00:57:13.460 look really pretty. So I have to. Okay. I'll do a, I'll go with a three just cause she looks

00:57:21.260 so good, but I can't give her a two or a one. Wow. Sad. I'm going to give her a one.

00:57:26.900 Okay. I think she looks great. Fair. Okay. Tyla. Okay. This is my favorite. This gets a one

00:57:35.000 from me because she is, this is on theme and it looks beautiful. So the passage of time,

00:57:40.880 she's got a little hourglass with sand in it that is literally passing the time. And then 0.70

00:57:46.940 her, um, her dress is like very form fitting and like basically it's, I think made for her

00:57:59.180 like exact form, but, uh, it has like sand on it. It looks like sand. It looks like she's dripping 0.90

00:58:04.000 in sand. Yeah. And so it not only looks amazing on her, but it also signifies passage of time.

00:58:13.000 Yeah. I think it's great. One for me. If we're looking at these like costumes, obviously. Yeah.

00:58:19.240 I think it's great. But you didn't like you, well, you didn't like it. I thought. Well,

00:58:24.900 I mean, it's like, it's to me, aesthetically ugly as a dress, but like for what it is for the event,

00:58:31.780 I think it's great. Okay. So I would say like for me, probably four. Whoa. Okay. Okay. Tension

00:58:39.720 on set. All right. That's all we've got for y'all. Y'all can let us know what you think about these,

00:58:45.500 about these designs. Now, obviously I, I know if just in case I get anyone saying this,

00:58:51.020 I know that these aren't for the women, the most modest dresses in the world. I understand that. 0.91

00:58:58.000 And I'm not condoning the immodesty. That's just kind of a given when we're looking at some of

00:59:02.500 these celebrities, but we never post like the most scandals. We never talk about the most scandalous

00:59:06.700 ones because there's just too much. But yeah, that's our assessment. There are a lot of looks

00:59:11.740 out there. You can let us know what you think. All right. That's all we got time for today. See you

00:59:15.220 back here tomorrow.

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Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - May 07, 2024

Ep 998 ｜ Methodists Change Their Pronouns to Was⧸Were

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