REPLAY | Candace Cameron Bure on Body Image, Motherhood & Battling Backlash
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Candace Cameron-Bure joins Allie on the Relatable Couch to talk about how she became a Christian, how she was raised in a Christian home, and what it was like growing up in a religious home.
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You may know her as DJ Tanner or maybe the Queen of Christmas in several movies, but
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her real name is Candace Cameron Bure, and she has been a light in the darkness of the
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media industry for a very long time, making an incredible impact for the kingdom of God.
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She is such a wonderful example and encouragement to Christian women, and I am so thankful for
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her courage and for her joy, and today she joins me on the couch of Relatable to share
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all kinds of wisdom and insight and even some fun stories and facts about herself and her
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I know that you are going to love, love, love this conversation.
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You guys have been asking for her to be on for a long time, and we have made it happen,
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This episode is brought to you by our friends at Good Ranchers.
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Candace, thanks so much for joining us on the Relatable Couch.
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I'm like, I've been a very big fan for a really long time, and I will tell you that
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when podcasts were becoming popular, I could not get into podcasts, and I would try a few
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here and there, and I would rather listen to a book in the car than a podcast, and then I heard
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your podcast, and you're the first podcast that got me hooked.
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Well, thank you so much, and the admiration is mutual.
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I think I speak for everyone in my audience when I say we are so thankful to have a Christian
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woman, wife, and mom representing so boldly Christian pro-life values in an industry that
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just seems hostile to those values and those principles, and you have stood strong on them.
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You haven't shied away from them, and you've been doing it for a long time, and you've
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shown all of us how to do that with grace, and yeah, that's a really big role to take.
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I think everyone probably knows in general your story, but maybe for most people, it starts
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That's probably when they first knew you, heard your name, but let's go back further
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So we weren't raised in a Christian home because my dad was not a believer.
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My mom was a believer, but my dad didn't want religion brought into our home and thought
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that that was something that when us kids were adults could decide on our own.
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And my parents had gone through a really hard time in their marriage, and when I was 12 years
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old, they thought that they were going to get a divorce, and a friend had invited them
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to church to help them work through some marital counseling, and that's when the church was
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So at this time, I was already on Full House, and things started to change in my home because
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my parents really wanted to work through their marriage, but they didn't know how.
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So thankful to that friend for bringing them to church, and my mom was so happy because
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she was a believer, and I think it was the first time in her life that she could start
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saying these things out loud and be a little more bold to talk about God and prayer with
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And it was at 12, we started going to church for the first time, and I was sitting in the
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church and heard a sermon one day, and I really didn't know what it all meant.
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I just heard, if you want Jesus in your heart to be the Lord and Savior of your life, then
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And so at 12 years old, I did that, and that's when I became a Christian.
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I was also working on television, so I wasn't necessarily going to church every week.
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I mean, all the practices that we want our kids to do nowadays or even back then.
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I knew I believed that Jesus was my Savior, but it wasn't until my mid-20s, until I was
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about 25, that I understood the gospel message for the first time and started living my life
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with God and to know God and have a relationship with God.
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And all of your siblings, because you're one of four, did they kind of go on the same
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trajectory as you when your dad became a Christian and y'all started going to church?
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So the interesting thing is my dad actually didn't become a Christian for probably another,
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I think my brother was the first one to really grab a hold of his faith and start living it out.
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And quite frankly, my sisters and I all thought he was pretty weird because he was like this
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fun-loving, goofy Kirk that you kind of like saw as Mike Seaver on Growing Pains.
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And then all of a sudden he was like this very serious student of the Word of God.
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And it changed him so much in his teen years, but I think to the extreme where it was shocking
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because it was really hardcore and he hadn't quite found the balance of still enjoying
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life and being lovable and loving God all at the same time.
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And so my brother was the first, and then my sister Bridget and I gave our lives to the
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My sister Melissa, it was probably another 10 years later that she found God in her life.
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And we're all pretty strong Christians to this day.
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He is a man of science, had a very hard time believing in something that he couldn't touch
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And I know, you know, A Case for Christ, the Lee Strobel book, like really helped my dad
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and through so many conversations over the years with so many people in our lives.
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And that's the one thing I'm grateful to my dad for is that he's always open to the
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So how did you, you said that that was after Full House.
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And I'm sure a lot of people have heard this origin story, but not everyone has.
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So you and your brother being successful actors, it's kind of unique.
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Both of you having been as prominent as you are.
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So we, my mom had a friend, her name was Fran Rich and her son, Adam Rich was on the show
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And they were friends and Fran said, Barbara, your kids are cute little kids.
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So this wasn't something that was like, oh, let's up, like upheave our whole entire life
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So it was kind of like, instead of going to soccer practice or dance class, you would go
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And so my mom was kind of like, sure, you can give the agent my kids picture.
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And the agent said, sure, we'll bring you in for an audition.
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And my sister, Bridget, has a wonderful testimony.
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You can actually look her up online or on Instagram.
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And she has a beautiful testimony about really feeling unseen within our family and by God.
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I've seen her book or I've seen her post about it.
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And and then she told me I was only five at the time.
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And ultimately, my sister, Melissa, didn't like it.
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And my brother and I kept going on auditions and we were working.
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We would book commercials and then television shows.
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And we were really an unexpected family in terms of the entertainment business.
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My dad was a school teacher for over 35 years in the public school system.
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And it just kind of our family took that turn of events.
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And and here we are today, you know, and through it, even my mom became an agent and had her agency for many, many years until she had grandbabies.
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And then for you, Full House and for him, Growing Pains, did those cross over?
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And I was actually on like three episodes of Growing Pains before I was on Full House.
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And then my brother was on one episode of Full House.
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So tell us a little bit about Full House, booking that.
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Did you know at the time or did your mom know at the time, OK, this is kind of our big break?
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No, you never really know because you go on these auditions, whether you're a kid or adult, an adult, I'd say it's a little bit different now.
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But you really don't know much about a project.
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You get you get sent a piece of paper that says here are the sides.
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They give you a tiny bit of backstory on what type of character they're looking for.
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So, oh, a precocious 10-year-old girl who can outwit her parents.
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You get this line and you're like, here are the sides.
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And I auditioned a couple of times for Full House.
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I think I maybe thought, I don't know, you were just a little bit older.
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And I had already been a veteran because I was had been in the business for five years already.
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Which is not like probably most people who are 10 or maybe it is.
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I don't know if that's normal or not to start when you're five.
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I mean, there's there's a lot of people who do and you can start.
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So when we booked this, this when I booked the job, I was very excited.
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But at the same time, I didn't know who was in this show.
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It was a television show that's about as much as I knew.
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And I showed up on the first day to have a read through and then saw all the people in
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There's writers, producers, directors, the network, which was ABC and Warner Brothers.
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And it's very intimidating for a 10 year old and probably even a lot of adults.
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But but then I saw the one face I recognized across the table and it was Blackie from General
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So then I was like, OK, this has to be something like pretty good because he's in it.
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It's the first episode and then you wait to hear if it gets picked up.
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And so we did that and it obviously got got picked up.
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But even within the first year of Full House, it was so panned by the critics.
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I mean, that the the cheese could not have been thicker than Velveeta.
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It just was so cheesy, so sugary, so apple pie that no families would buy it.
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And so we were all shocked when we actually came back for season two because they were
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They also changed the the the day and time that we were airing.
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I think we started on a Tuesday night and then they changed the lineup to TGIF Friday
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nights, which was such a massive, huge success for family television.
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And there was something about Full House that so many families related to.
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And we wrapped every episode up in 30 minutes with a bow and a hug.
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But that was the very thing that everyone loved about it is that they truly saw conflict being
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resolved within family who loved each other and they talked about it in a way that was
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And isn't it interesting because if you were to just describe Full House, it doesn't really
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sound like a show that would resonate with the traditional audience because, OK, this is
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a family living in San Francisco, like with three men.
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And so it's not your traditional like the Cosby show or something like that.
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And yet it did bring that feeling of normalcy and stability and good hearted values that people
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really loved, which is interesting that it was relatable to an audience that probably couldn't
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But I feel like there were so many in that, you know, the premise of that show is that
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So the dad needs help raising his three daughters.
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So he asks his best friend and his brother-in-law to move in.
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And I feel like especially there's so many families today where grandparents are raising
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It's aunts and uncles like there's just family help.
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So I think that part of it was very relatable to a lot of people.
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And it seems like you are still close to most of the cast today.
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It's part of the reason why I'm still in the entertainment industry today, because that
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show for me set the foundation of my work experience.
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And you're as a child, you're going to either love it or hate it.
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And obviously, there's other factors that go into it with how your parents lead you through
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But I had really good have really good, honest parents who always kept family at the core,
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And I had this amazing cast and crew that we genuinely loved each other.
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But all of the other people that were working on the show were family people.
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And everyone that I can remember was really happy to be there.
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So I didn't have all these horrible experiences that you hear from a lot of other child actors.
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And even as an adult today, I'm listening to more and more come out with their experiences.
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And yet, I feel very blessed at the same time that I did not have those experiences,
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And I very much believe God's protection through my entire life to not experience some of those traumas.
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Not just your own parents, but also your on-set parents.
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What has that been like over the past couple of years?
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I know that you've expressed how hard it was for you.
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Is there anything that you just wish people knew about him that they don't?
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You know, Bob is interesting to talk about in that he was one of the closest people to me in my life.
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I love him and have loved him as a friend, as a father.
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Bob is a person that would literally drop anything for you, no matter who you are or who you were and how well he knew you.
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Bob had such a huge heart and he was really a helper at heart.
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And I think that's the thing that a lot of people, when they only look at the comedy, I mean, he was a really raunchy comic.
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And the comedy was very off-brand compared to Full House.
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And so when people fell in love with the show, they were expecting Bob to be the exact same person as Danny Tanner.
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And yet there are so many qualities that Bob truly had as Danny Tanner.
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But then if they went to a comedy show, they were like rocked off their seat because they went,
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Oh my gosh, this is like filth coming out of his mouth.
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And so in real life and in person, Bob was just, he was an amazing human being that I loved so very much.
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And it was one of the, probably the hardest loss for me to date.
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That, I mean, the most formative years of your life with these people.
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Tell us how you met your husband and what that romance was like in the beginning.
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Well, Dave Coulier, who was on Full House, he played Joey.
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Dave's a big hockey fan, big Detroit Red Wings fan.
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And Bob and John were also at that charity hockey game, like being celebrity coaches.
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So there were both professional hockey players and celebrities.
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And then they invited Lori and me to go to the game.
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But Dave said to me, hey, they're these two great Russian hockey players.
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But he said, I want to introduce you because who knows?
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You know, he had like his long, like flowing locks, like out of his helmet, like the wind
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He was not a total mullet, but he had long hair.
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And so the cute part of the story is that Val and his brother had come from Russia just
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And they learned English by watching Full House.
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Full House, who's the boss and married with children.
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Little did he know when he was learning English from his future wife.
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But he called me the very next morning at 10 a.m.
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Because I'm getting on a plane and going back to the East Coast to play hockey.
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I was so nervous, though, that I called Lori Lachlan.
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Because I've never been on a date with someone I don't know before.
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And then we had this six-month relationship that was by phone only.
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Because I was still on the last season of Full House.
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And he was playing hockey at that time in Fredericton, New Brunswick.
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And he was playing for the Montreal Canadiens farm team because of the lockout.
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I wasn't really even in a dating type of mindset.
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And there was such beauty in dating someone without the physical to really get to know who they are.
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So six months later, when he was like, when are you going to come visit me?
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Because then when I saw him in person again, I was like, oh, this all matches up.
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I was 19 when he proposed and then was married at 20.
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Did he have a similar theological Christian background at all?
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So at this time, I'm going to answer that question.
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Again, still would consider myself to be a Christian, loved God, but I did not have any kind of relationship with him.
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I wasn't actively pursuing God, reading my Bible.
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And I think the Holy Spirit just hit me upside the head because out of the blue, I'm thinking about our wedding.
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And then I thought about, I've never even had a conversation with him as to what his religion is.
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So we're driving and I asked him one day, I said, you believe in Jesus, right?
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And he said, are you not going to marry me if I don't?
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And I said, well, this is going to be really complicated.
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I don't know, but we need to have this discussion.
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And then he goes, yes, of course, I believe in Jesus.
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So that's how much of a Christian I was when we were engaged and even got married.
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I would love to finish the part of my testimony as to what changed.
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So you were 19 when you got engaged and then 20 when you got married.
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And when, how old are you when you had, when you got pregnant with your first baby?
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Met your husband, really started dating like for the first time.
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Found the one, got engaged, got married, got pregnant.
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And it was after I had Natasha change everything.
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You become a mom and you start thinking about things that you've never thought about before.
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And I started thinking about God and I started thinking about what I want to teach her and
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And the whole, my whole teenage years and very young adult years, I always thought when,
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when people would ask me about God, cause I had a few friends in my life that when I was
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16, 17, 18, going, tell me about what God's sharing with you.
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And I would just kind of blow off that part of the conversation, like, oh, you know, change
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And so when I realized I really didn't know God, I kept thinking, well, you know, what makes
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me a Christian and I always thought, well, I feel like I'm a Christian cause I believe
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in Jesus, but really I'm a good person and I do a lot of good things and I am kind to
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I give money to charity and I would compare myself to other child actors and say, well,
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I've pretty much done what they've asked me to do, uh, you know, listen to the rules
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So in my heart of hearts, I really thought it was my goodness that made me secure in my
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Now I hadn't talked to my brother about anything, but he just randomly calls me one
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day and said, Hey, Candace, I want to share this book with you because there's something
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about the way the gospel message was presented in that, in this book that has just rocked
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my world and just, just changed me and I want to send it to you.
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And so the Holy Spirit had really been working on my heart.
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Cause I'm thinking about how I want to raise my daughter realizing.
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So as soon as I get the book, I start reading the book.
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And, you know, there are a few other steps along with this that happened, but, uh, everyone's
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And it was, um, called the way of the master by Ray comfort and it's true in that it took
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It took me through the 10 commandments and I never saw myself as a sinner my whole life.
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I just didn't see myself as a sinner compared to other people that were hard on drugs or,
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you know, like whatever the case is, or I haven't murdered someone.
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And once I got put up against the law of God, have I, have I honored God every day of my life?
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Have I ever stolen something like those four in itself?
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I'm like, yeah, I remember, remember stealing gum as a kid.
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No, I have not honored my parents every day of my life.
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And as I went through all of these things, I'm like, okay, so I've, I've broken these commandments
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and then it, I learned that God's going to judge me by.
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By his standard of goodness and not the world's standard of goodness.
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There's a little girl looking at a white sheep as it ate the green grass.
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And she thought how nice and white the sheep looked as it ate the green grass.
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And she thought how dirty the sheep looked against the white snow.
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It was the same sheep, but a different background.
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So when we compare our sin to the standard of the world, most of them, most of us come
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But when we compare our sin to the snow white righteousness of God's law, we'll see that
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And it was then that I realized, oh, I am a sinner because God holds a different standard
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And that's when I saw my need for Jesus for the first time.
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That it wasn't about just like you, your book says you're not enough and that's okay.
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That's why Christ came and fulfilled the law and died and rose.
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And so that I finally understood the gospel when I was about 25 years old, it just, it took
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And then I've never seen myself as the same way.
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And from that day forward, like, I mean, I remember the moment in my bedroom that I felt
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And I, I had a desire to get into God's word and to know him.
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I love my family, but my relationship with God is the best relationship of my life.
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And for your husband, did you share this kind of epiphany with him and how did, how did
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My husband was still in the middle of this very highly successful professional, uh, NHL
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And so he was traveling half the year and I would just go to church with my kids alone,
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And, you know, in the beginning he had no problem with it, but I think I, I started very
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I just grabbed ahold of it and I, it was like all I could talk about and it was all I could
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I was like, honey, I have to share this sermon.
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The pastor talked about this today and I read this in the Bible today.
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And did you know that God's word says this and it says that, and we really have to start
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And we got to change this and the kids need to do that.
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And one day my husband looked at me and he just said, stop, like, stop.
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You are, you are just throwing this all in my face.
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You're like vomiting Jesus with every other word.
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And you're actually making me take two steps back.
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But if I have a question about God, I'll ask you, I'll ask you otherwise don't talk to me
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about it because I, you're, you're turning me off.
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And then I, I went into the, my, my Bible, of course, and I, I found, I found first Peter,
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It says, likewise, wives be submissive to your own husband so that even if they do not
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obey the word, they, without a word, may be won over by the conduct of their wife.
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And so I thought, okay, God, I, he asked me not to say anything about you.
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And you actually are telling me in scripture that my husband can be won over without a word,
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So I started praying that day, said, Lord, mold me and shape me into who you want me to
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be, that I can reflect you in my relationship with my husband and in my marriage with my
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So change me so that he sees the changes in me and would desire to know you better.
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I prayed for my husband to become the leader, the spiritual leader of our household and to
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And two, two years later, my, my husband gave his life to the Lord.
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I love going to that passage because at first I think people can hear, wow, I'd be so offended
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But you point to the word of God where they can be won over without a word by our pure
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One for people who love to talk and, you know, who like to communicate.
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Maybe words of affirmation is your love language.
00:34:07.340
So you're just, you know, and you're a verbal processor.
00:34:11.420
And you want the person that you love most to share this with you.
00:34:16.200
But how powerful that our conduct can actually be a stronger communicator with the power of
00:34:31.780
That sometimes, and like, not just in the case of your husband, but also with your dad.
00:34:35.580
I was going to say my mom prayed for my dad for over 30 years.
00:34:40.500
And so that should just be encouragement for anyone, either for themselves or for the people
00:34:45.460
It doesn't always happen on our timeline, but gosh, God is so faithful.
00:34:51.240
Young wife, mom, younger than, especially a lot of people these days are getting married
00:34:59.240
You have a spiritual epiphany, so much happening.
00:35:02.380
Are you still acting during this period in your twenties?
00:35:09.080
Once I had Natasha, I thought I could do it all.
00:35:17.520
So because my husband was actively playing, one of us wanted to be home, at least one of
00:35:26.060
So it was a pretty obvious answer that I would lay down my career and be home.
00:35:33.660
But it was a difficult transition because I've been working since I was five years old.
00:35:37.900
So then to, by 25, become a full-time mom and not having a job outside of the home, like
00:35:49.000
But one that I'm very thankful and grateful that I made because it really, that was the
00:35:54.340
whole time I grew so much in my relationship with God and it gave me the time to do that.
00:36:00.340
Because I'd open up my Bible when the kids were napping or when they were at school and
00:36:04.680
my, my home was quiet and I could, I could have that hour to, to sit and spend with him.
00:36:10.260
So, uh, so I took 10 years off outside of, you know, work, the entertainment industry.
00:36:21.780
Natasha is the oldest, two boys, I have two boys, Lev and Max.
00:36:32.500
And then my husband eventually retired from hockey.
00:36:36.160
That was when about a year after his retirement, we started, I started thinking about it.
00:36:45.320
It's always been a desire and a passion, but the cool thing about really diving into my
00:36:51.920
relationship with God is that within a few years of surrendering to motherhood and coming
00:36:57.500
to terms, not having the career, enjoying my time as a mom, I felt very much at peace that
00:37:03.920
of God didn't open that door for a career later in life.
00:37:14.320
But my husband retired and now he was home and it was kind of like, we prayed about it.
00:37:19.160
And, and my husband was supportive saying, yeah, give it a shot.
00:37:25.700
Let's just see if something happens and we can talk about whether we move or what we do.
00:37:30.380
If your career picks up and wouldn't, you know, it, my career picked up pretty quickly and in
00:37:41.440
a way that was unexpected for me, but I, had I not had those 10 years at home to really build
00:37:50.280
the foundation of my relationship with the Lord, I wouldn't be here today.
00:37:53.620
I wouldn't be the woman that I am today and I wouldn't be as Christ centered and focused
00:38:00.140
within my responsibilities and decision-making within my career.
00:38:03.680
And is that when you started with Hallmark or, okay, so that's when you start with Hallmark.
00:38:09.480
And what was it like from the motherhood perspective?
00:38:15.440
You were at home during those early years, but your kids are still relatively young at this
00:38:21.620
So what was that transition like balancing being home full time to working and being
00:38:32.800
And I couldn't have done it if my husband wasn't as supportive as he has been and was able to
00:38:43.940
So even when I went back to work, we still didn't have, uh, an outside caretaker.
00:38:55.840
So it, it just allowed us with ease to be able to do that.
00:39:02.000
I mean, half the times I would be like, do you even need me as a mom?
00:39:06.480
Because my husband's so good at whatever it was, whether it was changing diapers or I mean,
00:39:13.820
So even making dinners and meals and packing lunches, like I know not all men feel that
00:39:26.020
And when I started back, it wasn't a full time job.
00:39:29.080
So when I make a movie at that time, I would go away for three weeks, which sounds like a
00:39:35.880
It can be away from your kids, but I felt good about Val being home with the kids.
00:39:40.840
And then I'd come home and you know, that might be the, I think at the beginning, I did
00:39:49.200
And then when work started picking up, I eventually was on this show for three years called Make
00:39:59.420
So even working for three seasons on that show, I was maybe working two to three days
00:40:05.740
And so it still gave me a balance that I felt confident in being able to work and still being
00:40:14.260
a prominent teacher and parent in my kids' lives.
00:40:21.960
And sometimes I just find the conversation about working mom versus stay at home mom as
00:40:27.400
if they are like these nice, neat and clean categories.
00:40:31.960
I kind of find it unhelpful because there's guilt on either side of it.
00:40:37.080
In reality, there are so many different seasons.
00:40:39.280
There are so many different ways that couples work together and make it work.
00:40:43.860
Even as Christians and believing that the husband is the head of the household, the spiritual
00:40:49.580
There are just so many different ways within that biblical framework.
00:40:56.660
That women and men can fulfill the calling that God has for them.
00:41:01.760
Even as they're prioritizing their kids in their home and maybe fulfilling something outside
00:41:08.880
It's all really messy and everyone's circumstances are different and unique and they can all work.
00:41:19.660
And I think that's something to remember when you're dating is to marry someone that, um,
00:41:32.480
My husband also is a great cook, but that isn't, you know, that's not necessarily a deal
00:41:37.260
But look for those qualities in your husband or in the boyfriend and the guy that you're
00:41:42.860
dating that you can see him being an involved and present parent, no matter what your occupation
00:41:52.260
I think sometimes we're not thinking about it when we're teenagers.
00:42:03.020
If you just, if you have other friends or there's, there's cousins or nieces or nephews
00:42:09.560
And I know like my, my boys, when their little younger cousins would come over, my boys love
00:42:21.120
And that's just an easy way to know if the, the man or the woman that you're dating in your
00:42:25.960
life is, you know, just accessible and at ease with young people.
00:42:45.620
It is, I feel extremely blessed to be able to have the flexibility to be at home as much
00:42:51.660
as I am while also, you know, talking about things, doing something that I love.
00:42:56.660
Um, and I would love to hear from you just like, I don't know, it's hard to narrow down,
00:43:03.480
but maybe just one big lesson or a couple tips that you would give someone, um, who is
00:43:10.860
kind of just starting out their motherhood journey or something that you wish that you
00:43:16.180
The biggest thing I wish more people had told me was to take the pressure off myself.
00:43:25.920
Especially in our Instagram world, we see the best of everything and we see everyone
00:43:33.320
multitasking all the time and you don't have to do that.
00:43:38.120
And I love, I know you've heard this analogy before.
00:43:43.520
And it's, it's about how do you manage all of the things in your life that you want to
00:43:50.800
And if you, if you took a jar, if you fill it with rocks first up to the top, it looks
00:43:58.400
like it's full, but yet you could throw pebbles in there and it would fill in all the cracks.
00:44:04.220
So you're still adding more and it looks like it's full.
00:44:07.760
And yet you could still then throw sand in there and it would fill in even the smaller
00:44:14.540
You could fill that up to the top and then it's solid and it's full.
00:44:18.960
And the moral of the story is it's the order in which the, the ingredients go in.
00:44:27.340
So if you would put the sand in first and then tried to add the pebbles and then the
00:44:33.860
big rocks, there would be no room for the big rocks anymore.
00:44:38.280
So the order in which you prioritize your life is especially important.
00:44:42.920
Make sure you, you have decided what the big rocks are in your life because you can only
00:44:48.280
do all of the other little things that fit in is if you prioritize the big ones.
00:44:53.500
So if you're a mom and you've got little kids and you say, my priority is caring for
00:45:00.020
my children and my husband and, um, and my time with God every day.
00:45:09.220
Those are the big rocks you put in there and, and those you don't waver on it.
00:45:14.220
But then the things like, oh, but I really want my body back and I really want to exercise
00:45:21.040
I'm like, okay, you can do those things, but those are the, those are the pebbles.
00:45:28.320
And if you get to them, great, but they're not going to change the core of your life.
00:45:34.500
And for all you young moms out there, I always tell you like, who cares about the gym when
00:45:39.500
your kids are young, go for a walk with them, put them in a stroller, go to the playground
00:45:46.240
Like get your exercise in that way, play tag with them.
00:45:48.940
Those are all ways you can feel that way that you're getting movement and exercise without
00:45:54.240
feeling stressed that you didn't get your one hour at the gym.
00:46:00.600
And then maybe with, with the, the, the sand you go, but I have all these friends and I,
00:46:06.980
and there's school and there's crafts and there's PTA and there's whatever.
00:46:11.400
And it's like, those are all great things, but they're not the priority.
00:46:18.300
And I promise you, you're going to have other seasons of life.
00:46:21.060
They're going to, they're all going to come back around and you get to choose what you
00:46:25.440
want to participate in, but just figure out what your big priorities, what the big stones
00:46:32.060
And it will, it will change the way in which you manage your day without changing who you
00:46:41.380
I found it helpful to remember that there are seasons for things, that it's not always going
00:46:57.700
And I don't mean that in a bad way when it comes to this stage of motherhood, but just
00:47:01.960
literally your children need you physically and emotionally in every way at every hour
00:47:23.920
It's so it's like the relief and the sadness that comes with it.
00:47:28.600
And I think remembering the temporal part of it can both kind of give us the endurance
00:47:34.500
to keep going, but also remind us like that these difficult moments are really precious.
00:47:40.100
They're really precious and they're so fleeting.
00:47:43.060
It's even just having my oldest is only four and a half, but even being there, it's like,
00:47:48.720
I do see that when everyone said, when you, when I was pregnant for the first time, it goes
00:48:03.940
I'm like, I feel like I, I just, I blinked and they're adults.
00:48:16.980
One thing you mentioned, I want to ask a question about, you mentioned like, you know, going
00:48:23.020
One thing that I love following you for is, uh, you talk a lot about your fitness routine
00:48:29.880
I am not in the stage of life right now of working out as much as I used to, or as much
00:48:38.800
Hopefully that will change in the next couple of years.
00:48:41.820
But I do still love, um, watching you for that.
00:48:45.020
Tell me about, um, navigating Hollywood and the beauty standards that are inherent in
00:48:53.780
Hollywood and in the entertainment industry as a Christian, obviously there's nothing
00:48:58.820
wrong with caring about your appearance and being healthy and all of those things.
00:49:02.720
But as you know, better than the rest of us do, there are unrealistic and unhealthy beauty
00:49:08.320
standards in the entertainment industry that I'm sure that you kind of had to battle against
00:49:16.400
I mean, let's just talk about the Ozempic craze right now.
00:49:20.820
Because the reality is, I'll be completely honest, I'm like, hmm, hmm, how, who, who should
00:49:27.820
I'm a very small, petite person, but I'm not, I'm not going to go on Ozempic.
00:49:34.740
But like, these are the things that go through my mind because the standard is so high and
00:49:44.560
And then it's like, I shake my head and I go, Lord, like, ugh, stop, like stop.
00:49:52.820
There is a definitely a pressure that is on you.
00:49:57.440
And I wouldn't, for me now, I will honestly say that I don't have outside pressure of people
00:50:03.260
telling me that I have to look this way or be a certain weight or dress this way.
00:50:08.960
But the pressure is so ingrained, it, a lot of the pressure just comes from myself because
00:50:16.180
And I, I don't always know how to not feel that pressure.
00:50:20.600
I've done a lot of work in my life and I, I've been very public and open about having
00:50:25.840
an eating disorder, which has been like really good for the last, I'm trying to probably,
00:50:33.800
you know, 20 years, but I still mentally battle it all the time.
00:50:37.620
Just not as much as I used to, and I have tools in place that help me.
00:50:42.520
But these are like the crazy thoughts that still go through my head and they're so dumb
00:50:49.260
And I hate that I have them, but the fact is I do.
00:50:52.760
But the more I just share it and I'm open about it, it frees me from it because I can
00:50:57.660
hear myself say it out loud and realize like, this is not what life is all about.
00:51:03.760
And, um, and so I do love fitness for the reasons that obviously I want my body to feel strong
00:51:15.940
So if I get a sweat on and I work out, it's like all of those endorphins, I don't know all
00:51:20.760
the science behind it, but the endorphins are released and it just feels good.
00:51:24.360
So I feel better and then I can make better decisions.
00:51:29.160
So that's part of my fitness journey is really a lot for my emotional health.
00:51:36.040
And there probably are some people out there that have struggled with an eating disorder.
00:51:41.600
Um, if you could just talk about like a couple of the tools that you just mentioned
00:51:46.160
that you have in place when you feel that pull or feel that temptation.
00:51:50.240
I also understand that I struggle with an eating disorder in college.
00:51:53.640
So what are some of the things that have helped you?
00:51:59.040
And I also understand that that can be an, an, a disordered way of eating and dealing with
00:52:09.160
I don't struggle with it in that way, but, but exercise helps clear my mind and it just,
00:52:18.840
It gets me in a less foggy place and helps me feel clear.
00:52:24.000
So I enjoy the exercise, you know, and want to get in three or four workouts or walks a
00:52:43.320
My conversations with him are, are very strong and it's a way in which
00:52:49.600
because really it's about a battle of the mind.
00:52:54.680
And, um, and so if I pull the Holy spirit into my mind and I'm constantly praying and asking
00:53:09.760
Sometimes I'm talking back and saying like, God, I don't, I don't care.
00:53:15.920
And I want to eat my feelings right now, instead of run to your word.
00:53:20.400
I mean, that happens often, but then through, um, you know, I've talked to, to health professionals
00:53:28.400
that have said, well, trying to get to the root of, of some of those issues.
00:53:33.560
So I kind of remind myself often when I'm having a pull of a decision that would be a bad decision.
00:53:42.760
I walk myself through some steps and say, okay, if I choose to do this right now, I'm going to remind myself how I'm going to feel.
00:53:52.000
I'm going to remind myself of like every physicality that's going to, whether I'm, my stomach's going to feel bloated, whether my eyes and my face are going to hurt.
00:54:00.680
I mean, I was bulimic for a long time, so you remind myself, I remind myself the, the, the things that feel awful and the consequences of it.
00:54:10.280
And that often will snap me right back into reality of like, no, I don't want to feel that way.
00:54:18.600
That's what I was going to say too, because it was bulimia for me as well.
00:54:22.600
And I just like, that's what I remind myself of that did not feel good.
00:54:26.400
It was embarrassing and that I like had to, you know, go to the bathroom after I ate.
00:54:38.320
And I hated when I think about something having control over me that I was really a slave to.
00:54:46.080
And I tried to convince myself that I wasn't, but I really couldn't stop until I went to counseling and all this stuff.
00:54:53.520
And that's what I think about, I'm like, do you want to be enslaved to that again?
00:55:01.440
And then of course I think about my girls and I'm like, oh my goodness.
00:55:05.760
If that was them, if they were doing something like that, how much would that break my heart?
00:55:16.880
It's hard, but I'm grateful for the work that I've put in and then the, a lot of the mental tools
00:55:21.680
that I have and then some of the physical tools.
00:55:23.600
And so, um, it's not something I struggle with on a daily basis, but sometimes before that camera,
00:55:29.760
you know, you get on something, these crazy thoughts come to mind and I'm like, Candace.
00:55:35.680
Well, you, I mean, you are so beautiful and you are so youthful and I'm sure that there are a lot
00:55:40.640
of people that are sitting out there shocked that you have a child who is married and that
00:55:44.800
you have adult children because you do look so young and you are young, but you look even younger
00:55:51.360
Um, but there is, I mean, there is a temptation, uh, for I'm almost 32 there, you know, I am just
00:55:59.200
now in the past couple of years seeing my face change and like being able to look back when you're
00:56:04.400
25 and you look at yourself when you're 18, you're like, oh, I kind of look better that actually than
00:56:12.000
And you finally look like a woman, but you don't have wrinkles.
00:56:14.880
But now I'm looking back at, at 25 and I'm like, oh man, like I didn't have the smile lines or
00:56:22.400
And so that is something that I think a lot of people struggle with, whether they're in
00:56:28.320
You see people on social media, you're like, wow, that person hasn't aged at all.
00:56:39.600
I'm sure that that can be a struggle too, especially in the entertainment industry.
00:56:45.920
If you do follow me on Instagram, you'll know that I'm, I'm on there, no filters, no makeup
00:57:03.440
So I'm, you know, I got that done before sitting on your show right now.
00:57:06.800
And I will, when I'm on my podcast or on, on camera or something, but like in my real
00:57:11.840
life, I'm happy to show the world that part of me and like this, I'm not embarrassed.
00:57:21.600
My dad is 80 and I'm so blessed and privileged and love that they are still with us and here
00:57:32.640
And like, my mom's never had anything done to her face ever.
00:57:40.720
So I look to them and I'm like, this is what I have to look forward to when I'm 70.
00:57:51.440
And I'm like, why this is who God made me to be.
00:57:57.520
I'm going to, you know, enjoy makeup and getting my hair done and all of that.
00:58:01.040
But even with that, I, I do not want to become a slave to that.
00:58:08.160
There's a reality check when you're like, when you see the new wrinkles popping up.
00:58:12.960
But at the same time, I look at my parents and I'm like, well,
00:58:15.760
if this is how I'm going to age, then I'm okay with that.
00:58:19.040
And if this is the exchange that I have to make for having another year
00:58:22.960
and having another year with my kids and my husband, not everyone gets to see 32 or 42 or 52
00:58:35.520
Before we talk about some of the things that you're doing now and in the future,
00:58:38.400
I do just want to rewind briefly because a lot of people, even though if they knew you on full house,
00:58:45.760
um, they definitely, so they followed you for a while, but I think you came, uh, into a lot of
00:58:54.160
people's sphere again, when they saw you standing up for your values on the view.
00:59:00.320
And so they knew you from Hallmark, but especially when you were on the view,
00:59:04.960
The spotlight was on you because you were the opposing voice there.
00:59:11.600
You were not just a conservative because they've had people like, you know, Meghan McCain on there,
00:59:15.680
who I also really admire, but you're walking in there, this like angel of Christian light.
00:59:22.080
And you're like, um, actually, I think abortion is bad.
00:59:29.920
Did you feel like it was redemptive and fruitful or was it like, I don't know if I would ever do that again?
00:59:49.920
And I, I may have just been really naive, but when they asked me to guest co-host a few times,
01:00:00.640
I didn't realize that they were in, in a sense of vetting me for a position for the show.
01:00:06.400
And that's probably why I felt so comfortable to just say like, oh, I'm going to do this once or
01:00:12.880
And then when they, they offered me the job, I had thought, you know, I'm, I'm not a person
01:00:27.840
And I had to learn how to talk about politics on the show.
01:00:35.280
And that was one of my biggest fears, but as a Christian, I had no fear.
01:00:39.760
I'm like, oh, I'll talk about my faith all day long.
01:00:49.040
So I thought if I can stay in that lane, I'm good.
01:00:52.080
And I'll kind of figure out the politics part of it.
01:01:01.600
I was also commuting from LA to New York every single week.
01:01:06.880
Because we shoot, that show is shot live in LA, in New York, and I was living in LA
01:01:13.600
My children were in LA and in school and all the things.
01:01:17.680
So I was pretty wiped out on top of trying to learn and navigate how to
01:01:25.840
talk about these hot topics through a show and even interview people.
01:01:32.080
That's a, that's a whole different skillset to interview people.
01:01:36.080
So it's a show that I am so grateful that I did.
01:01:43.840
But I don't think I'd ever want to do that show again in terms of being a co-host.
01:01:50.480
That's what I hear from a lot of the conservatives who have sat in that seat.
01:01:56.640
Because you're holding down the fort for one perspective when pretty much everyone
01:02:00.240
else is going to agree on the other side of it.
01:02:07.680
The closest I got to it, I actually filmed a pilot for CNN in 2018.
01:02:14.080
And now I look back and I'm so thankful it didn't work out because I ended up getting
01:02:19.360
But it was the same kind of situation where I was like the only conservative Christian.
01:02:23.200
There were a bunch of liberals that most people would know.
01:02:35.920
Allie, I think everybody listening would love to have you on that show.
01:02:44.800
And so tell me just in general, not just The View, what it's been like to kind of be
01:02:52.000
in that hostile environment and speaking up as a Christian.
01:02:56.880
And we won't get into like the specific conflicts that have come up over the years.
01:03:01.280
But in the last couple of years, you have kind of been under fire just for having
01:03:05.280
Christian values and being outspoken about that.
01:03:07.920
And even if you're not political, it seems to somehow like bleed over into politics and
01:03:16.800
And so how have you navigated that over the past couple of years specifically?
01:03:20.800
Yeah, it's been really, really challenging because I, I'm actually, my intention is,
01:03:32.960
I'm not even trying to raise a respectful ruckus.
01:03:38.480
I'm trying to do the things that I love and do my job.
01:03:41.920
And Jesus always comes with me and my faith always comes with me.
01:03:45.360
I don't leave it at the doorstep at home and then go to work.
01:03:49.520
And I recognize that within my job in the entertainment industry, I am to entertain people.
01:03:59.600
That also means that people like you to some degree.
01:04:02.960
Now, it is tough to live in a world where you need people to like you when you don't always
01:04:10.400
share the same worldview or have the same opinions as others or are not complacent to just let,
01:04:17.200
you know, live and let live, do whatever you want and not really care about anything.
01:04:23.200
It's, it's challenging to do that, but yet I've always believed in family entertainment.
01:04:31.520
I've been intentional about living my entertainment life in the family space.
01:04:40.320
And the older I've gotten, it's been more and more important to live it in the faith and family
01:04:47.760
And so, yeah, the last few years have been challenging and I'm not, I'm not trying to upset
01:05:00.640
I'm just trying to live by what I believe is true and right and honorable to God.
01:05:07.360
And I remind myself that when I get scared of man or the public or the press or the media,
01:05:16.000
Am I to fear man or am I to fear God who's going to judge me on judgment day?
01:05:20.560
And I want to be able to stand as holy as I can.
01:05:27.280
And I know I'll stand before him on judgment day, saved by his grace through faith.
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So I get that, but I, I want to hear him say, good, good job.
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And it helps me make those decisions in my life when they seem like tough ones.
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But I'm like, I just want to, I want to honor God.
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And one of the questions was, um, what actress has been on, I forget the phrasing of the question,
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the highest number of Hallmark movies, the most Hallmark movies.
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We got the answer right because the answer was you.
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Um, tell me about transitioning though from Hallmark,
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which was a big part of your life for a while to Great American Family.
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And I think, um, I mean, I haven't really talked about it much in detail, but it was a,
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a more challenging decision than anyone's known.
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And I had a wonderful, great 14 years at the Hallmark Channel.
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And there are, there are still so, so many people in terms of the actors and
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everyone that's there that I still love and have so much respect for.
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Um, there was a change of guard at the Hallmark Channel and, and it, there were different relationships
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Um, and that's where it got a little challenging.
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I kind of felt like the old guard and the new guard came in and
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it definitely influenced the decisions that I made to start talking to Great American Family Channel.
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And for those of you that don't know, Bill Abbott is the CEO of Great American Family Channel,
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who was the former CEO of the Hallmark Channel.
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Um, and so Great American Family gave me an opportunity to help build something
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that I've been praying about for a really long time.
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So while I'm an actress and I'm a producer, I've been an entrepreneur for a very long time.
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So I have my hands in a lot of things within business and grow building and growing a network
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And this gave me the opportunity to start from the ground up and build something really great.
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Okay, it wasn't about offering more money or anything like that.
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I liked the idea of building something great and that had a focus on family and faith.
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And that for me is what was missing even under the leadership of Bill at Hallmark Channel.
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Um, then was that, and you know, he has bosses above him.
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But the faith wasn't really a part of that channel.
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And as I've gotten older, I want that to be a part of my catalog of the movies I produce.
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And there was much more opportunity to do that at Great American Family.
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Um, we're not, you know, we're gonna, we're trying to compete with the big dogs,
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but we're not even in all households on cable yet.
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But we also, we also, um, have taken over the Pure Flix, which is online streaming.
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We've now rebranded it as Great American Pure Flix.
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But we want to become the destination for faith and family programming.
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We signed him to a multi, a multi, uh, picture deal.
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And so, and I, you know, it just makes it great when people believe in the mission and
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But we want faith to be in there more and not just a, a place where we talk about
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God in lowercase g, which could be any kind of God that feels very universal.
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And we're saying that at Great American Family.
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And you just, you can't find that very many places.
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And so often the depictions of Christianity and Hollywood are negative.
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They're caricatures of some kind of stereotype.
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And so to have entertainment that says the name of Jesus, that honors the name of Jesus.
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And you've said before, it's not like you're making these movies to make a point necessarily.
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You're going to, most creative storytellers will make projects that have influenced their life.
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They will tackle issues that are important to them.
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My faith and my family are the two most important things in my life.
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So that's what my focus in my, and my mission will be in entertainment.
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It's not about like, I'm like, I'm just going to focus on what I know.
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And I'm going to stay in my lane and I know faith and I know family.
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And there are a couple other projects that you're doing right now that are in that vein.
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I'm sure you're doing a lot more than this, but we'll talk about a couple,
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And one of them is the new movie that you're in the unsung hero.
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And you would know them from the band for king and country and Rebecca St. James.
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I actually did not know that they were related until recently.
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I know who both of them are, but I did not know that they were siblings.
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There's still that 1% that don't know my brother Kirk and I are related either.
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I blew his mind when I told him, I was like, oh yeah, you know, Candace and Kirk.
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If this is a clip on socials, you need to comment below and say, if you didn't know that Kirk and
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And so it's funny to me that people don't know.
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And this is their family story, the origin of how they came from Australia to the U.S.,
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And it was their community and people in church, even though they were people of faith,
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but really helped them get their feet grounded and settled and grew into who they are today.
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And it was ultimately looking to their own family.
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That their dad was a long time, very successful music producer in Australia and then having
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But really, the title of it, Unsung Hero, is all about their mom.
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And that was just really fun to be a part of the movie that way as well.
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And then you have a new partnership with the Generous Family Kids Book Club.
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truly one of my favorite activities to do while they were young.
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And the Generous Family Book Club are books that you would get once a month.
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So they aren't Bible stories, but they are all biblical principles.
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So they teach about generosity and kindness and love and joy.
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And they teach them with really fun characters.
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They're really high quality, beautiful books and illustrated very well.
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And what I also love is that it is not one person that's writing them.
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It's written under a pen name called Betta to Give.
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And it is really a collection of Christian moms and dads,
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parents, teachers that have come together to write these books with these groups of characters.
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So they're wonderful to just incorporate if you're a parent or a grandparent into your reading with the kids.
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And there's also, if you are a homeschooler, there's a separate homeschool curriculum you could add in as well.
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People can go to generousfamily.com and then it's right there.
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Join the kids book club or you can check out the homeschool curriculum.
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And Candace's cute picture is right on the homepage right there.
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Because I want, I love your audience and they're getting the scoop.
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So coming soon to Great American Family Channel.
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If you used to love my mystery movies, because I hear it all the time.
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The Aurora Tea Garden mysteries, which I'm no longer doing.
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But I have a new mystery series coming out on Great American Family Channel.
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And I also produced a really wonderful Easter movie.
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And you're going to want to watch it with your husband or your wife and your kids.
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So good things coming to the channel as we continue to build.
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Well, that's exactly what I was about to ask you.
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I was about to ask you what else you're working on.
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So you have lots of irons in the fire right now.
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Thank you so much for all the work that you do.
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And really just being an example for so many Christian women in so many different spheres,
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whether they're a stay-at-home mom, whether they are not married or have kids yet.
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Like, you really are an example in standing up for your faith in a culture that, you know,
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And thank you so much for taking the time to come on.