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In this episode of Relatable, I talk about socialism and what it stands for. I discuss the differences between socialism and capitalism, the benefits and drawbacks of socialism, and why we should all be on board the socialist train.
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Hey guys, what's up? Welcome to Relatable. I am so excited about today's episode. I have
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gotten lots of emails, messages, comments over the past year asking me to talk about
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socialism. We have talked about socialism in the past and a lot of you who already listen
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to other political podcasts or you read political books or you've been involved in politics
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for any amount of time, you probably already know a lot about socialism and probably know
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a lot of the things that I'm going to cover today. I certainly am not a socialist expert
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and then I, you know, I haven't been studying the history of Soviet Russia for the past 13
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years of my life or anything like that. But I have been studying this, of course, especially
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since Bernie Sanders came on the scene and it seemed like socialism was going to be the
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big new thing, especially among our generations. And the fact of the matter is there is, there
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are a lot of people who follow me and follow this podcast that don't know about socialism
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and don't know about socialist policies. What's the difference in socialism and welfare? Is
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there any biblical aspect to socialism that we should be okay with, that we as Christians
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should get on board with? These are perfectly wonderful and appropriate questions. It's okay
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if you don't know everything about socialism. It's okay if you don't know anything about socialism,
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but at least you've realized if you've messaged me or reached out to me, this is probably
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something that we need to discuss and that we need to know about, at least in some kind
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of basic way. And that's what we are going to do today. So you already know how I feel
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about socialism. Like I'm not coming at this from an approach of like, I don't really know
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how I feel about this kind of stuff. You know that I'm anti-socialism. You know that I don't
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think that socialism is good. Nevertheless, I am going to do my very best to give you only factual
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information, of course, coupled with my analysis as this podcast always is. And I'm not just going
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to give you this kind of one-sided story and not just what I want you to hear. I'm going to give you
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the facts. Now, like I said, I already have an opinion about it. You are going to get my analysis
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throughout this. So don't expect this kind of like middle of the road on maybe socialism is not
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that bad after all. That's not what this podcast is. So I don't want any reviews from y'all saying,
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oh, you didn't give socialism a chance. Well, Venezuela gave socialism a chance and we saw how
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that turned out. OK, first of all, what is socialism? According to Encyclopedia Britannica,
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socialism is a social and economic doctrine that calls for public rather than private ownership or
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control of property and natural resources. According to the socialist view, individuals do not live or work
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in isolation, but live in cooperation with one another. Furthermore, everything that people produce
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is in some sense a social product and everyone who contributes to the production of good is
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entitled to a share in its society as a whole, therefore, should own or at least control property
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for the benefit of all of its members. So that's that's according to Encyclopedia Britannica. So
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let us break that down. In America, whether you are on the right or the left, we are all more familiar
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with capitalists or capitalism because it is the economy that we currently have and that we have had.
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So I think socialism is probably easier understood from our perspective through the lens of
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capitalism. Capitalism believes in private property and private earnings. You make a profit.
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You use that profit for the most part to feed yourself, feed your family, give to charity. You do with it
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what you see fit. Of course, you do pay taxes in the capitalist society, but the profit that you earn
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is for you and you have your own property that you are entitled to. As socialism believes for the
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most part in shared property or collective ownership, a socialist would say that all work is done for
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the good of the whole, not just of the individual, not just for the good of your family, not just for the
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good of a corporation or a business, but for the good of everyone. That's what a socialist would say
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that they stand for. Now, you might be thinking, well, what is wrong with that? It sounds very generous
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to me. It sounds really good. Maybe even sounds like the early church a little bit. Everyone
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working together in cooperation for the common good. That sounds awesome. It sounds like the
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opposite of greed. And isn't that what we want, especially as Christians? Don't we want the
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opposite of greed? Don't we want some kind of generosity among our communities? But hang on just a
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second. So here is what the definitions of socialism, if you noticed in the Encyclopedia Britannica,
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if you noticed in the generous definition of socialism that I gave you, here is what is
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missing in the pitches for a socialist economy or a socialist country. The how. How do we go from
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private ownership, which is what we have now, to public ownership, or as they say, democratic ownership
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or collective ownership? Socialists will say that in a socialist society, the people are in charge.
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There is no real hierarchy. There are no oppressive power systems. The people control. The people are
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leading. The people are cooperating together to meet the needs of those around them. No one is getting
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exploited by profit-driven corporations, they would say. But how? Who puts the means of production in the
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hands of the people? Making sure that they're in the hands of the people rather than what they would
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say in the hands of these corporations? Who makes sure that this is all democratically owned and
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collectively owned? What if someone wants to keep her private property? What if I want to keep my
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private property? What if I want to keep my profits to provide for myself and to provide for my family?
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Who makes sure that my profits and my property are collectively owned rather than individually owned?
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What happens then? That's what socialists don't want to say. That's what they don't want to talk
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about is the how. How we go from personal private property to collective ownership of the means of
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production. All of that, the truth is that all of that is impossible without government coercion. If I
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don't want to give up 95% of my profits or however much it is, if I don't want to give up a private
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property or private ownership, there has to be an authority to come along and to make me do it.
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Someone has to take the money that I make and the property that I have away from me, away from my
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family, and force me to give it to the community. But here's the other thing. My money, even if it's
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given up, say I want that. Say I want my money to go to the socialist class. I don't get to give my
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money directly to the people that I want to give it to. I don't get to give my money directly to the
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causes that I care about. I give it to the government. And so in a socialist society, we're
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talking to anywhere from 60 to 90% of the paycheck. It just kind of depends. It depends on how much you
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make. It depends on how much you live and what the policies are. A large majority of my profit,
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my paycheck, is given to the government to redistribute to the country and to the community
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how the government sees fit. So not how I see fit. So when we hear about socialism,
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meaning generosity, well, you don't see really where that money goes. You don't get to decide
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where the money goes. The government decides where the money goes. Socialists, a lot of times you'll
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hear them decry the evils of corporations, how corporations exploit their employees and
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corporations are greedy and they're immoral, which we can talk about that as a problem. I do think that
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that's a problem. We can talk about that. We can work to solve that problem. But the solution
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to that problem, to the greed of corporations or the exploitation of some corporations is not
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shifting power from a corporation, which is an organization that takes your time, your money,
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and your energy on a voluntary basis, shifting the power away from them to the government who takes
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your time, money, and energy away from you on a coercive basis. So at least corporations who you could
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argue have too much power, you could argue exploit their employees, you could argue you have too much
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greed. Well, we can decide whether or not we want to buy from those corporations. We can decide
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whether or not we want to work for those corporations. We cannot decide in a socialist
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society whether or not we give our money to the government and whether or not we are under the rule
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of the government. We just are, or else we're considered lawless. And that is exactly why in order
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to accomplish a socialist society, it takes a strong government to make you hand over your money,
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your property, your time, your energy, whatever it is, in order to cooperate. It all sounds well
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and good until you ask the how. How does socialism come about? So I just want to be clear up front
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that this is not some happy-go-lucky time where we're all linking arms and saying, yeah,
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government, take everything that I have and distribute it for the good of those around me
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without really my say in it. Now, democratic socialists will say, well, you do have a say in it.
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But, of course, they also believe in a pure democracy where you have the tyranny of the
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majority and you have mob rule. And so if someone like me doesn't believe in socialism or giving up
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my private property, well, the government's going to make you do that anyway because the majority
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ruled against you. Now, of course, this already happens in the sense that I might pay taxes
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to something that I don't want to pay taxes to. There are plenty of things that my federal tax
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dollars go to that I don't agree with. But it's a little bit different than in a socialist society
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to where you don't get to keep hardly any of your profits and you don't keep any of your private
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property. So like I said, you cannot have socialism without big government. Do not let them lie to you
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about that. So when you hear the terms socially controlled or democratically controlled, understand
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that this means government controlled because you have to ask how things go from privately owned to
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collectively owned. An authority has to force people to give up their money and their property
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so that authority can redistribute those resources how they see fit. If everyone were already giving
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their money and their property on a voluntary basis, socialism wouldn't be necessary. We wouldn't
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even be having this conversation. But because human beings have this crazy desire to own property,
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which we will talk about as a natural desire, a desire to keep their, to earn their keep and to
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keep what they earn, big government is necessary for seizing the means of production and ensuring
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in theory that everyone is cared for because a lot of people aren't going to voluntarily get on board
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with this. They don't want to say this because they realize that people don't really like the sound,
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especially people in the West and in the United States. They don't like the sound of their freedom
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being trampled on. But socialists, and I think this is an honest way to describe them,
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socialists see individual freedom as a worthy thing to give up or a worthy exchange for the
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meeting of the needs of the poor, how they would describe it. That's the transaction that they see
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happening, that if people simply give up their right to private ownership or their right to earn a
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profit and hand these things over to our oh so benevolent bureaucrats that reign above us,
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these bureaucrats will ensure that everyone is taken care of, that no one is marginalized,
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that no one is oppressed, no one is trampled on. Socialists see themselves as the enemy to what
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they call the elite. They typically depict the elite as these rich CEOs who are wielding their
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wealth to push those to the bottom further down. They don't believe there is any reality,
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at least anymore, to the American dream. The idea that someone can go, anyone can go from
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nothing to something, can pull themselves up by the bootstraps, make something of themselves,
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they believe that for the most part, that the poor are inescapably oppressed by big business,
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which of course is silly considering the economic mobility that exists in this country,
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even for the most poor. But regardless, they don't believe that the free market is truly free,
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but rather is being manipulated by those with the most money. So they see capitalism as a tool to hurt
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the poor, not to give poor people the ability to lift themselves up. This is why you hear people like
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Bernie Sanders talking about the 1%, how the 1% is hoarding all of the wealth in this country.
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You will also hear the term fair share. This is something that we have heard from all the
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Democratic presidential candidates so far, that the rich need to pay their fair share. Well,
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what they won't tell you is that the top 50% of earners in this country already account for almost
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100% of the tax revenue. The people at the bottom hardly pay anything in taxes, if at all. Some of them
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make money from the government, which begs the question, what is fair share? They can't really,
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what is rich? What is fair share? Well, they can't really say. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, who of course
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calls herself a socialist or a democratic socialist, which there's really not much of a difference
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there. It's just socialism that you choose, has said that 70% would probably be what she picks for
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the very rich. I think she kind of just said that arbitrarily in her 60 Minutes interview with
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Anderson Cooper. But who are the very rich? Well, AOC said in a tweet, only the really rich. She's
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talking about the really rich. She said like Betsy DeVos rich. That only includes, she said like 10
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people. No, it doesn't. You realize that the majority of your comrades in Hollywood probably
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fall into this category, right? So they can't really say what a fair share is, and they can't really say
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who the really rich are. They don't want to put an exact number on it because they know what's going
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to change if they actually ever got the power to do this. Because fair and fairness is a very
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arbitrary term in this sense, unless you mean a truly fair tax, which would mean that everyone gets
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taxed the same rate, a flat tax rate. In a truly fair system, the wealthy pay still a good deal more.
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So if everything or if everyone pays, for example, a 10% income tax, the millionaire is obviously going
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to be paying a lot more amount wise than the person who makes $25,000 a year. Right now we have an unfair
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progressive tax system in which the more you make, the larger percentage you pay in taxes. I don't really
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understand how that equals the rich paying their fair share. They're already paying not just a more in
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an amount, which would make sense, but a more percentage wise than poor people do or than middle
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class people do or anyone who is below them. That is inherently unfair. And yet those on the left insist
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that the rich need to be paying even more, that to them that would be fair. I don't know how you decide
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what is more fair in a progressive tax system. But that is how socialists believe that they will fund
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socialism by taxing the rich almost in totality. So that will go to pay for everyone's health care,
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everyone's education, the large government that is necessary to maintain and enforce socialism.
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Now, what happens, the question is, what happens when there are no more rich people because you've taxed
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them all into oblivion? They don't have an answer for that. Socialism both demonizes and depends on
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billionaires. So if you demonize to the rich into non-existence, where do you go for the money
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that you need to maintain socialism? That's what Margaret Thatcher said is the problem with
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socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money. That's just common sense. That's
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just true. You don't create more money. I know a lot of people on the socialist left believe that you
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just create more money, but that's not how it works. Heavy taxation of the rich to accomplish wealth
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redistribution to take power out of the hands of the people at the top of the economic food chain
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is central to socialism. That's what socialism really runs on. And to understand why we to to
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understand why this is, we have to understand something. You cannot separate socialism and social
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justice. Social justice today, if we as we have discussed many times on this podcast is based on the
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desire for equal outcomes, not equal opportunity, equal outcomes. So that is what socialists see as
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true equality. And now this is very different from the equality recognized in say the Declaration of
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Independence, which says all men are created equal and were endowed by their creator with certain
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inalienable rights among them being life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. This equal means equal
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in the one in the Declaration means equal in value, equal in worth, equal in the eyes of the law,
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equally made in the image of God. Now, it is important to know, it's important to know that
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this equality of worth recognized in the founding documents has, of course, been demonstrated
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completely and perfectly throughout America's history. When you look at slavery, when you look
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at Chinese railroads, when you look at Japanese internment camps, Jim Crow, but it's an idea that is
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correct. It is an idea that will properly recognize legally leads to human flourishing as it recognizes
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the worth and the potential of the human being. But the equality that socialists believe in is not
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just equality of worth, though they would probably agree on that. They'd probably say that all people
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are created equal, but they believe in equality of outcome. Socialists see any gap in success or any
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gap in earnings as inherently unjust and a product of an oppressive system. So for example, and this is a lot
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of people on the left, not just socialists, but they would see the gender wage gap, which has far more
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to do with choices and what women choose to do with their lives than it does any kind of system
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whatsoever. They would say, well, that is indicative of some kind of oppression when that's not actually
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true, but they see any and all gaps as indicative of some kind of oppressive system. Rarely, rarely will
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you hear a socialist account for individual choices or chance. If one group is on average poorer than
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another group, it is not because, according to a socialist, of irresponsibility, but because of an
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unjust system that is keeping them down. So that is always their thought. That's always their go-to.
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This is why socialists want to eliminate hierarchy as much as possible, which is why they say they want
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power in the hands of the people, in the hands of democracy, in the hands of who they call workers,
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which is a Marxist term. They believe that heavy taxation, wealth redistribution, the elimination
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of profit and private property will accomplish that because in order to have equality of outcome,
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which they believe is perfect social justice accomplished, you have to take away from the
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haves and give it to the have-nots so that everyone has the same amount. Equal mediocrity. They would
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rather have equal mediocrity than have these large disparities between some people doing really
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well and some people not doing well at all. But as we've already discussed, that idea is inherently
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unjust. The idea of taking almost all of what someone has earned and giving it to those who have not
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earned it is theft. And the reality is, again, equality of outcome can only be accomplished through severe
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government regulation to ensure that all those who work harder than those who do and all those who work
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harder than those who don't work very hard at all have their profits taken away from them and and used to
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take care of the people who are not working as effectively and as efficiently as they are. This is one of the
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ways this is one of the many ways that socialism does not account for human nature. Humans are naturally
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competitive. We have this natural bent towards reaping what we sow. This is not a western social
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construct. This has been true in every society throughout all of history. We feel entitled to
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the fruit of our labor and we do not take well to people stealing the fruit of our labor, all of it
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almost, and giving it to those who did not work for it. Humans and Christians especially have shown
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a great capacity for voluntary generosity towards those who need it. But whenever our profits and
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property are confiscated in the name of forced compassion, which by definition is not compassion
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at all, we don't react well, which is precisely why, as we'll get to, socialism has been such a horrific
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failure every time it has been tried. And yet this idea of equal outcomes by repressing those who have
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in favor of those who don't have is the keystone of socialism. And here's why. So socialism, most of you
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probably know, is the brainchild of Karl Marx. He was a German philosopher in the 19th century. He wrote
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a book called The Communist Manifesto, which outlined the problems with the bourgeoisie, which is the elite
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and the evils of capitalism. This is by far the most praised piece of literature among socialists. So
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whenever they mock you or scoff at you for comparing socialism to communism or observing that socialism
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leads to communism, remind them that their favorite political book is literally called
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The Communist Manifesto. OK, so there's really not much of a separation between socialism and
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communism. Socialism is always supposed to lead to communism. If you read any part of The Communist
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Manifesto, even if you just read some of the quotes online, you will see that this is exactly where
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the socialists of today, where the Bernie Sanders and the AOCs and even the Elizabeth Warrens of today
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are getting their ideas and inspiration. So here's how Karl Marx saw history in his modern world.
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The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles. Free man and slave,
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patrician and plebeian, lord and serf, guild master and journeyman, and a word oppressor and oppressed,
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stood in constant opposition to one another, carried on an uninterrupted, now hidden, now open fight
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that each time ended, either in the revolutionary reconstitution of society at large,
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or in the common ruin of the contending classes. Everything in Marx's mind was about the oppressor
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versus the oppressed. That's how he saw society organized, and he believed that communism would
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bring an end to that. He hated capitalism. He hated free trade. He hated private property.
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He saw all of this as evil, as turning men into greedy scrooges who stomped on his fellow man. And you
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can also see, if you listen to my, I think it's episode 99, if you listen to that episode about
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black liberation theology, you can see where they get a lot of their ideas. It's from Karl Marx and
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these collectivist ideologies. Everything in Marx's mind was about this dichotomy. Everything was viewed
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through the lens of oppression. And this is where, again, we have to note that socialism and today's
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version of social justice cannot be separated. They go hand in hand. It is all about the elimination
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of differences between groups by pushing down those whom the left sees as the oppressor and lifting up
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the ones the left sees as the oppressed, primarily through an economic system that taxes the wealthy into
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obscurity, but also through social constructs like intersectionality that invade our public discourse
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and the messages that we see in the media, et cetera. We have discussed this many times, this idea of
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intersectionality that people are defined by their various intersection points, which are skin color,
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religion, gender, sexual orientation, et cetera, and how those points correspond to a particular level of
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oppression, according to the left. The more intersection points you have, they say, the more
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credibility and value that you have. So any opinion that you have or view that you hold is weighed against
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how intersectional you are to many people on the left. Straight white men, of course, are the least
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intersectional. Thus, they are the least oppressed. So if a white man is a conservative, for example, it is because
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he is a straight white man, not because he has those ideas. If a white woman is conservative, it's because she is
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white, not because she really has those ideas. Oh, and also because she's a woman who is a conservative,
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it's probably also because she is oppressed and brainwashed by the patriarchy. Same goes for black
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conservatives, for immigrant conservatives, for Muslim conservatives. It's because they say you have
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been oppressed. And so you have been brainwashed by white people, not because you think your own
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thoughts or have your own values, because if you really thought for yourself, they would say you would be
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a socialist and a communist. Because these people believe that it is not conservative versus liberal,
00:24:40.800
just like Karl Marx, they believe that it is the oppressed versus the oppressor. They see anyone who
00:24:48.300
disagrees with them as as on the side of the oppressor. So it doesn't make sense to them when
00:24:53.860
someone who is black or someone who is gay or someone who is an immigrant or someone who is Muslim
00:24:58.160
would be on the conservative side, would be against them. They see those people as on the side of the
00:25:02.460
oppressor. And the only reason an oppressed person in their mind would be on the side of the oppressor
00:25:06.540
is if they are brainwashed. And so that's why they just can't deal with people who are minorities who
00:25:12.640
don't agree with them. People like me are, you know, a white person, a white woman, a white man. They can
00:25:17.920
just brush off as just being racist, of just being as a part of the oppressive white supremacy. That's why
00:25:26.200
they disagree with them. So they don't actually have to contend with any ideas. And you see that a lot
00:25:31.320
in our debates in our discussions today. Just like Karl Marx, they believe that the only way for the
00:25:37.000
oppressed to be free is through socialism and or communism. So if you're against socialism,
00:25:42.800
then again, you are on the side of those who want to oppress people. So how do they decide,
00:25:50.800
you ask, who is being oppressed? Typically in a very superficial way. Who has been the most poor
00:25:58.080
and or who has been the most discriminated against? And I say and or because this is complicated on the
00:26:04.720
intersectionality scale. If you haven't noticed, everything is extremely subjective because it's not
00:26:10.960
just who has been the most discriminated against. For example, the Jewish people have been discriminated
00:26:15.700
against and marginalized and brutalized throughout history. And the left does not have a high view of
00:26:21.140
Jews. You'll notice they really only care about violence against Jews when it's done at the hands
00:26:26.700
of a white supremacist. If it's a Palestinian terror group like Hamas, they don't really have anything
00:26:31.080
to say about it. And in fact, they're going to stand up for Palestine. That's because to the left,
00:26:35.480
Jews rank lower than non-Jewish white people. Even or even though Jews rank lower than non-Jewish white
00:26:42.960
people on the intersectionality scale, they still rank higher than Muslims in Palestine. Why?
00:26:49.600
Because traditionally, the Jewish people have been successful.
00:26:53.100
They have pulled themselves up by their bootstraps. They have, in general, been well-educated. They have
00:26:59.780
been financially successful. They have refused to bow down to victimhood. So even though they have been
00:27:06.740
traditionally oppressed throughout history to the intersectional and even socialist left, they are not
00:27:14.160
given as much credit. They are not given as much compassion and as much sympathy as Muslims because Jewish
00:27:20.320
people, probably to a lot of people on the left, are just too white. They are just too successful
00:27:26.780
to have a lot of compassion for, which is why they always will go against Jews if it's Jews versus
00:27:33.820
Muslims, but not a Jew versus a Christian white person. It's just crazy. It's really hard to grapple
00:27:41.260
with. But once you realize that this is how they think, a lot of the things that they say and do make a lot
00:27:46.500
of sense, or they don't make a lot of sense, but at least you know where they're coming from.
00:27:51.620
So American leftists who buy into this oppressed versus oppressor dynamic claim to be
00:27:56.400
woke, but the reality is they actually see things through a very narrow Western lens. They look
00:28:03.420
exclusively, really, on how groups have fared in the United States and not on a global scale. So,
00:28:11.380
for example, they count Christians as privileged in America, as mostly whites, when the reality is
00:28:17.380
Christians are persecuted far more than any other religious group in the world, and most Christians
00:28:23.560
are not whites. And Christianity did not start in the West. It most certainly did not start in the
00:28:28.800
United States. But this, again, reflects the ideology of Karl Marx. He hated Christianity. He called Jews
00:28:35.560
hucksters. He really actually loathed most religions, but primarily loathed any group that he's
00:28:41.360
saw as an oppressor. When you realize that this is how that a lot of these leftists, not all, but a lot
00:28:47.980
of these leftists see the world stemming from Karl Marx and his collaborator Friedrich Engels. A lot of
00:28:53.660
what they do, like I said, it doesn't make sense, but it does. Everything is viewed not through the lens
00:28:59.340
of what is true and what is not, but what group is this person a part of and how oppressed have they
00:29:06.560
been? And that's how I'm going to figure out who is to blame or how much sympathy or credit to give.
00:29:11.360
That is why when anyone criticizes, for example, Ilhan Omar for saying that Israel has hypnotized the
00:29:20.700
world or that Republicans' only support for Israel is because of the Benjamins or that AIPAC is
00:29:27.420
controlling Republican politicians or for sympathizing with and defending men from Minnesota who tried to
00:29:32.840
join ISIS or defending Hamas or trivializing 9-11, if we criticize her for any of this stuff,
00:29:37.680
it's because we are Islamophobic. So if we criticize a Muslim person for saying something
00:29:42.960
derogatory towards Jewish people, it is because we are Islamophobic, not because they are anti-Semitic.
00:29:48.020
Why? Because of this crazy intersectionality scale and who they see as more oppressed and more
00:29:52.820
privileged. So if you criticize Rashida Tlaib for saying that she feels a calming feeling when she
00:29:57.900
thinks about the Holocaust because of her erroneous belief that Palestinians were the savior of the
00:30:03.520
Jewish people rather than aiding and abetting Nazis, it's because you're an Islamophobe,
00:30:08.760
not because her comments were ridiculous and anti-Semitic. If you criticize AOC for the many,
00:30:14.820
many uneducated comments that she has made, it's because you are a racist, sexist,
00:30:19.360
and you hate women of color. That's why. It's not because she has anything wrong to say.
00:30:25.820
Uh, this is also why personal responsibility is really not something that's ever going to be
00:30:30.940
emphasized by the socialist left because every group who has not succeeded, uh, is seen as
00:30:37.120
systemically oppressed, not irresponsible as we've already covered. So now we see how this social
00:30:42.560
aspect of socialism really goes hand in hand with the economic aspect of socialism. Socialism sees
00:30:47.940
poverty as never, never the fault of people who are poor, but a consequence of oppression from the
00:30:53.520
people at the top, which is why they think it necessary to take the power and the wealth and
00:30:58.340
the property of the haves and hand it to the have not. So they do not see someone, for example,
00:31:03.460
like my parents who, uh, were raised poor, who were very poor when they got married, had to work
00:31:08.600
themselves, uh, through college, had to really pull themselves up and to make it work. And who couldn't
00:31:14.240
even afford a new pair of shoes when they first got married for my dad to wear to work. They don't see a
00:31:19.980
story like that. And then my dad, you know, both of them becoming successful entrepreneurs and being
00:31:24.980
able to make a good life for my brothers and me, they don't see that as a story of personal
00:31:29.260
responsibility. They see that as a story of privilege. They see that as a story of benefiting
00:31:34.000
from certain systems that are kinder to white people than to people who are in other groups.
00:31:39.200
They don't see that as the consequence of choices. They see that as the consequence of a system.
00:31:43.860
And the same thing goes with poverty. Now we do know just from a logical experiential perspective,
00:31:49.460
like we do understand that bad luck happens or maybe not luck from a theological term,
00:31:55.940
but bad things happen. Bad circumstances happen that are outside of people's control. Not everyone
00:32:00.760
who is poor, it hasn't always been a product of bad choices. Sometimes you are born into extremely
00:32:07.200
unfortunate circumstances in which you could not crawl out of because you were 14 years old and you
00:32:12.480
were left without parents, whatever it is. Not everyone who is poor is a product of bad choices
00:32:17.880
or is a product of your own bad choices anyway. And not everyone who is rich has had to go from
00:32:23.080
nothing to something. We know that that's true. There is chance, there are circumstances that people
00:32:28.140
are born into that are inherently more privileged than the circumstances that other people are born
00:32:32.460
into. That of course is true. But the socialist doesn't take that kind of nuanced look. They see
00:32:37.920
every kind of discrepancy, not as a consequence of choices, but as a consequence of some
00:32:42.400
kind of systemic oppression, which is why they justify saying, well, the government's got to step
00:32:48.000
in and do something about this to make sure that all outcomes are equal because anyone at the top
00:32:52.580
has exploited people at the bottom to get there. When of course that is not always true.
00:32:58.260
So let us talk about a little bit more about the background of socialism. There are two main branches
00:33:04.100
of thought within the socialist ideology. First is the belief that everything except personal items,
00:33:09.460
such as clothing, should be public property. So an example of this would be that of Sir Thomas Moore
00:33:14.720
writing in 1516, Utopia. Other socialists would believe that the only way that society is supposed
00:33:21.780
to control the economy is through property and other resources. So maybe not quite as extreme.
00:33:28.060
In this case, centralists in socialism would say that the state should be a central authority
00:33:33.420
but it should be in control of the resources of that specific society. This was the case in the
00:33:41.560
Soviet Union. And then you have people in the more decentralized camp of socialism that believe
00:33:46.780
that these decisions should be made at the lowest possible level of government. So state or local.
00:33:52.640
Ultimately, these decisions would be made by a populist decision. So that's what one side of this
00:33:57.640
of the socialist spectrum believes. But it's important to note that this kind of revolution or transition would
00:34:02.460
still take a powerful central government to force it to make it happen, even if it were to be more of
00:34:08.920
a populist socialist movement, which is part of why socialism has never really worked long term.
00:34:16.660
Marxism, Leninism tried in the Soviet Union, but failed. People were starving, were persecuted,
00:34:21.740
were oppressed by the tyranny of the Soviet government. India tried state socialism as well as Sweden
00:34:26.720
with democratic socialism. And in Germany, we all know how national socialism went with the
00:34:32.380
Nazi movement. Of course, you probably know Nazi stands for national socialist Chinese. The Chinese
00:34:37.720
have employed communism and still employs communism today. North Korea is a socialist regime. And I think
00:34:44.640
we can deduce how that's working out for people who have died from parasites after being forced to use
00:34:49.200
human manure to fertilize their crops. Venezuela has been under socialist rule. And people are, of course,
00:34:55.540
as you probably know, are dying of hunger and are still fighting to officially get out from under
00:35:01.900
Maduro's tyrannical rule. Socialism has had loud dissidents over the years who have pushed back against
00:35:08.860
the tyranny of socialism. So you've got Hungary, you've got Czechoslovakia, you've got Poland,
00:35:14.880
you have China, you have Cuba. That is why many countries who tried socialism realized that they had to
00:35:21.660
adopt at least characteristics of capitalism in order to survive or characteristics of the free market to
00:35:28.320
survive. Socialism in Sweden failed. So now they have a welfare state that A, has a fair flat tax rate of
00:35:35.720
60 percent and B, is funded by the free market. So everyone is taxed at a high flat rate. They get free
00:35:43.640
health care, they get free education, but there is a low corporate tax rate so that businesses and
00:35:48.480
individuals are still able to make a significant profit. In fact, the leaders of the Scandinavian
00:35:54.000
countries have publicly corrected Bernie Sanders, who claims that they are socialist countries. They've
00:36:00.240
said, no, we're actually not socialist countries. So the means of production in these Scandinavian
00:36:05.440
countries are mostly in the hands of the citizens and the businesses that they work for. Denmark, for
00:36:13.040
example, doesn't even have a minimum wage law. They are consistently ranked as one of the top free
00:36:17.760
market economies in the world. So these Scandinavian countries are not socialist. And even in using
00:36:23.640
the free market, but having a welfare state, a lot of these countries are still under significant
00:36:27.980
pressure. A lot of people say that even where they are using the free market, but taxing people so high
00:36:33.100
and providing for so many people who are dependent on the state, millions of people who are dependent on
00:36:37.840
the federal government, that it's not going to last very long, that it's eventually going to crash and
00:36:43.340
burn. So even that they're not a socialist state, but their welfare state, even that probably won't
00:36:48.680
last forever. China also realized that they weren't going to become an economic superpower without
00:36:53.460
capitalism. That's why they have special economic zones. These are zones where foreign and domestic
00:36:58.340
trade and investments are done without interference from the central government. They offer tax and
00:37:04.240
business incentives to attract foreign investment in technology. There was even an attempt kind of at
00:37:10.000
socialism in the 19th century. There was an English philanthropist named Robert Owen, who launched a
00:37:16.240
new harmony on the banks of the Wabash River in Indiana. Not too long after the experiment, harmony
00:37:23.600
collapsed and Owen went home. So it doesn't have a great track record. Socialism, bottom line, it just
00:37:30.560
doesn't work. Now, if you talk to a socialist, they'll say it's never truly been tried. Or they will say
00:37:36.680
that while it's happening in the Scandinavian countries, well, one, socialism has been tried
00:37:42.700
many times and it has failed. And socialism does not characterize the Scandinavian countries. Like I
00:37:49.840
said, they are welfare seats. So let's discuss the difference in welfare and socialism. So the idea of
00:37:55.260
welfare existed long before the idea of socialism. In 1601, the Parliament of England enacted something
00:38:00.860
called the Elizabethan Poor Law of 1601. It authorized government provision for the poor residing in
00:38:07.240
local parishes, established a system of obligatory financing outside the church. Early America instilled
00:38:14.800
this kind of principle as well. There was a form of welfare set up only for those who were young and
00:38:19.660
vulnerable or old and vulnerable or who were disabled. No able-bodied person qualified for public
00:38:25.660
assistance during this time. There was a big shift in welfare during the Great Depression. FDR
00:38:31.360
implemented his New Deal, which were, of course, a set of economic programs meant to provide relief
00:38:37.680
for families who were hit hard by the Depression. In 1935, the Social Security Act established a national
00:38:43.660
system of old age insurance for retired workers, benefits for victims of industrial accidents,
00:38:49.780
unemployment insurance, aid for dependent mothers and children, the blind, the physically handicapped,
00:38:54.920
and then you probably know about the 1960s when LBJ launched the Great Society. This had an aim to
00:39:01.300
eliminate poverty and also racial injustice. And during this period, new spinning programs were
00:39:07.080
launched that also addressed education, medical care, urban problems, rural poverty and transportation.
00:39:13.300
Medicare and Medicaid were products of this time. The Great Society really looked to expand FDR's New
00:39:20.100
Deal, but the New Deal was in response to a severe economic crisis. And so the Great Society was
00:39:25.120
something different. The Great Society occurred when the American economy was actually booming.
00:39:29.740
Everything was growing and flourishing due to what, by the way, due to Kennedy's tax cuts,
00:39:36.120
which slashed the top marginal tax rate by 20 percent. This resulted in the GNP rising,
00:39:41.660
the unemployment rate falling dramatically, and the average income increasing. So that was from the tax
00:39:46.520
cuts. Just want to make that clear. This was an effort to end poverty, to end injustice. But even
00:39:53.460
if the intentions were good, the results were not very good. So since then, we have spent over 20
00:40:00.300
trillion, 20 trillion dollars on these entitlement programs. So even if you spend a million dollars a
00:40:06.420
day for 2,000 years, you still wouldn't be out of 20 trillion dollars. That is how much money that is.
00:40:13.740
We have spent more than 20 trillion dollars on welfare programs that were originally meant to
00:40:18.540
create a level playing field and ensure people had opportunity, but it didn't really solve anything.
00:40:23.940
It didn't actually change the poverty rate. It didn't stop disparity. And many of these programs
00:40:30.180
just kept growing. In 2016 alone, we spent 2.7 trillion dollars on various welfare systems.
00:40:38.500
These specifically include Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare, unemployment compensation,
00:40:43.800
and veterans benefits. According to Pew, more than two-thirds of our yearly spending goes to welfare
00:40:49.420
or entitlement programs. That's in comparison to 15.3 percent of total spending for national defense,
00:40:55.620
net spending to government debt, 6.1 percent, and education aid at 3 percent. That means that around
00:41:02.240
6 percent goes towards things like infrastructure, national parks, foreign aid, and various other
00:41:08.960
items. So that's a large portion of our tax money. Now, all of this, welfare, like I said, different
00:41:15.820
than socialism, but certainly over the past half century, a little bit more than that, has primed
00:41:20.700
the pump for socialism. Economically, people have come to expect to be taken care of. From the Great
00:41:27.640
Depression to now, welfare has gone from relief to people who absolutely need it, who are getting back
00:41:32.760
on their feet, to entitlement, whether or not you're going to work ever. People feel entitled
00:41:38.720
to their Social Security, to their Medicare, to their Medicaid, to their unemployment benefits. And in many
00:41:45.320
cases, it's more lucrative not to work than to work because of just how much the government will take
00:41:51.580
care of you. So Bernie Sanders being able to run and almost win the Democratic nomination in 2016
00:41:57.760
tells you just how far we have come and just how far we have shifted, really just within the past 10
00:42:04.060
years even. Welfare wasn't thought of as socialism originally because in the case of the New Deal,
00:42:11.040
it was a desperate measure called for by a desperate time. And it was meant to help people who were trying
00:42:17.940
to work in the case of the Great Society. Welfare was fueled by American wealth by that hard work.
00:42:23.220
But socialism and how we view welfare today negates the need for individualism. It negates the need for
00:42:31.660
entrepreneurship, for hard work, because everyone is going to be taken care of no matter what.
00:42:36.360
That was never the intention of the American welfare program. But it has been the unintended
00:42:42.140
consequence of thinking people can be freed from oppression and freed from poverty by just giving
00:42:47.840
them more money without really any expectations. But it wasn't just economic. They weren't just
00:42:53.800
economic policies like the welfare programs that made the way for the popularity of socialism. Because
00:42:59.040
remember, a major part of socialism is its social aspect, is social justice. And this idea of social
00:43:06.880
justice, this desire for equal outcomes across socioeconomic classes, races, genders, was championed by
00:43:13.560
none other than Barack Obama. We saw this in his domestic dealings as he pitted all white cops against
00:43:19.360
all black kids, as he belittled business owners by insisting that they didn't build what they had when
00:43:25.940
he demonized the wealthy by saying that at some point you just got enough money by targeting Christian
00:43:32.140
conservatives using the IRS. We saw this in his foreign dealings, his well-known apology tour for how
00:43:39.760
American strength he purported has negatively manifested itself throughout the world.
00:43:46.280
Barack Obama's worldview is that of the oppressed versus the oppressor. And those who have, in the
00:43:52.480
leftist mindset, been the subject of oppression need to be lifted up. Those who have traditionally
00:43:58.200
been oppressed need to be brought low. And we know that some of his mentors were affected by,
00:44:04.560
well, I don't really want to go throughout this whole lineage because it's a long story.
00:44:07.780
So if you listen to episode 99, you will also see how Barack Obama was affected by Marxism as
00:44:13.820
well. He demonstrated this through the vehicle of identity politics, which says that if you are this
00:44:19.260
race, you have to vote this way or believe this. If you are that gender, you have to vote that way or
00:44:24.860
believe that. This creates tribalism, which stokes resentment, all of which is fueled by
00:44:29.960
intersectionality, which all come part and parcel with socialism, as we see in the work of Karl
00:44:36.440
Marx. It is all about pitting the perceived oppressed versus the perceived oppressor.
00:44:42.400
During Barack Obama's presidency, we see in a 2017 Pew research study called Polarization in Politics
00:44:48.660
that Republicans and Democrats became more divided than they've ever been, with Democrats moving to
00:44:53.460
the left on almost every issue for racism to immigration to welfare and Republicans' views changing
00:44:59.560
much less. As of 2017, there were fewer people in the middle than had ever been. A dramatic shift
00:45:07.080
away from the middle and especially to the far left came while Barack Obama was in office. This study
00:45:11.720
was in 2017. You cannot blame this on Donald Trump. I'm not saying Donald Trump is the great reconciler,
00:45:17.020
but you cannot blame the level of division that we have and that we have had for the past few years
00:45:23.280
on Donald Trump. This started happening for the most part under Barack Obama. Yes,
00:45:28.000
there was always division. We've always had division in our country. I mean, we fought a war
00:45:31.940
north versus the south. There was a lot of division in the 1960s, but the modern division,
00:45:37.900
the division that we now have, began cultivating and really festering under Barack Obama.
00:45:43.740
Leftist economic policies that have lingered for at least the past half century, coupled with the
00:45:49.220
social shift to the left over the last at least two decades, has created the climate for the embracing
00:45:56.520
of socialism in the United States, especially among young people who just don't know better and quite
00:46:01.900
frankly are fed this postmodern garbage from their professors. More millennials and Generation Z identify
00:46:10.720
as socialists or at least view socialism positively than any other generation. More millennials voted for
00:46:16.800
Bernie Sanders in the 2016 primaries than voted for Trump or Clinton combined. Most millennials,
00:46:22.700
quite frankly, quite frankly, I think I just said quite frankly, I just said it again, don't know what
00:46:28.240
socialism is. What they usually mean is that they want more welfare. They think they want to be more
00:46:34.460
like the Scandinavian countries, but they have no idea what the difference is between the free market
00:46:39.740
and the free market economy with a high tax rate and a free health care system and that and socialism.
00:46:48.120
So if we tried to make our economy function the way Scandinavian countries do, most of those on the
00:46:55.040
socialist left would freak out. Like if we implemented a flat tax rate, if we eliminated the minimum wage
00:47:00.820
laws the way that they have in Denmark, they would say that's absolutely heartless. They wouldn't let us
00:47:04.540
do that. Also, if we cracked down on immigration the way that these Scandinavian countries do, if we
00:47:11.160
encouraged a sense of nationalist pride the way that they do, they would be against it. So I don't think
00:47:16.260
that they really want to be like Scandinavia. These people who say the Scandinavian countries are these
00:47:20.420
beacons of socialism. So really, I think that a lot of millennials who say that they want socialism
00:47:25.020
don't really know what they want. They think that these offers by Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren
00:47:29.980
for free health care, for free college, of course, that affects the younger generations more than
00:47:33.960
millennials. They say, yes, that sounds fair. That sounds good. Let's get that 1%. Let's stick it to the
00:47:40.520
man and get his stuff. What they don't realize is that Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren are both
00:47:48.320
part of the 1%. They spent so much time demonizing the 1%. They are a part of the 1%. You would think
00:47:54.080
that Bernie Sanders would be able to give up at least two of his three houses or one of his three
00:47:58.300
houses and give a little bit more to the government than what he does right now or give a little bit
00:48:03.480
more to charity than he does right now. If he really thought the 1% was so evil, no one's forcing him to be
00:48:08.620
in the 1%. He can give away enough money so that he's no longer in it. But of course, they want
00:48:13.460
socialism for thee, but not for me or socialism for thee, but not for them. Same goes for AOC, of
00:48:22.320
course, who though she in many ways embodies the American dream going from being a bartender to a
00:48:28.460
congresswoman in the matter of a couple years, she doesn't think that other people can make it like
00:48:32.580
she does. She doesn't think that other people can make the same choices that she has. And in fact,
00:48:37.540
if you look at AOC's Green New Deal, it's clear that she doesn't think anyone should have to take
00:48:42.840
responsibility. Her deal promises economic security for those who are unable or unwilling to work.
00:48:49.900
And that's another key part of socialism, one that is unfortunately really attractive to a lot
00:48:55.060
of young people. The belief that there is no inherent morality or value in you working. You should not be
00:49:03.000
forced to work if you don't want to. That is why many on the side of the left are pushing this
00:49:07.320
universal basic income and are pushing for programs that would totally take care of all of your needs.
00:49:12.920
You should be provided for whether you work or not. That, of course, is the goal of socialism,
00:49:19.420
to force people into equal mediocrity and allow the government to take care of you. Remember that the
00:49:25.140
government does not give you provision without taking freedom in return. So the more provision the
00:49:31.740
government gives, the bigger it gets and the less free all of us are, which explains the revolutions
00:49:37.160
that happen consistently against socialism like the one going on right now in Venezuela.
00:49:41.720
So I know this is a long podcast. We're almost done. As Christians, how should we think of this?
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There are a lot of people who say I've seen a lot of people say this on Twitter that the early
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church embraced socialism. No, the early church did not embrace socialism. The early church is described
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in Acts 2, engaged in voluntary distribution of their goods to meet the needs of their community.
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Their giving was out of a willing, cheerful heart, which the Bible says is the only kind of giving that God
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loves. This was not forced redistribution. This was charity. And it was given to meet the needs
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of their own community. Emphasis on needs and their own community. So they weren't helping those who
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didn't just, who just didn't want to work. They weren't helping those who were unwilling to work.
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They were helping those who needed it in their local church out of the love of Christ, which compelled
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them to such kindness. This kind of love must be uncoerced, especially it shouldn't be coerced by
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bureaucrats who don't have the needs of the church in mind at all. Usually by bureaucrats who don't
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even see the need to protect the vulnerable like unborn babies. They are not to be the stewards of
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all of our money. This does not mean, of course, that we don't pay taxes. We do. The Bible says
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render to Caesar what is Caesar's. But what follows that? We render to God what is God's. So render to
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Caesar what is Caesar's and render to God's what is God's. To God belongs our full generosity. To God
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belongs our profit and our property. Also, rendering to Caesar what is Caesar's is not approval of
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tyranny. We should ask the question, what is Caesar's? What should be Caesar's? And in a democratic
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republic in which we now live, we have a say in what should be Caesar's and what should not be Caesar's.
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And we should we should not say we would be stupid to say that the majority of our profits and our
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property belongs to Caesar. Why? Because Caesar is not a good steward of our money and Caesar is not a
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good caretaker of our people. Look no further than the VA for that. I'm just going to say when I was
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saying that little monologue just then, I reminded myself of Gretchen Wieners from Mean Girls when she
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goes off about Caesar. I won't get into that. Some of you maybe not even you might not even get that
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reference. Anyway, so the Bible speaks to the legitimacy of private property as early as the
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Ten Commandments through thou shall not steal and thou shall not covet. You shall not steal because
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what someone else has is not yours and you should not covet because what someone else has isn't supposed
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to be yours and even wanting it to be yours according to God is a sin. So the Bible legitimizes
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private property early on. The Bible also makes clear in the creation account that work is expected
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of and necessary for the flourishing of the individual. Work existed before the fall, before
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sin entered the world. It was not a consequence of the fall. I think a lot of people think that work
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was a consequence of the fall. It was not. In a sinless world, before the fruit was tasted,
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the forbidden fruit. Before Adam and Eve hid themselves from God, Adam was given a job.
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He was given responsibility. Work is inherently good. It is inherently moral. That is precisely why
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when people do not work, they become purposeless. They become despondent, often depressed and suicidal.
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Their mind and their character atrophies. This is part of why unlimited welfare is immoral and
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unbiblical. That is part of why socialism is immoral and unbiblical. So here's a really good
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quote from John Piper on socialism that I think sums this all up. Socialism borrows the compassionate
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aims of Christianity and meeting people's needs while rejecting the Christian expectation that this
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compassion not be forced or coerced. Socialism, therefore, gets its attractiveness at certain points
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in history where people are drawn to the entitlements that socialism brings and where people
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are ignorant or forgetful of the coercion and the force required to implement it and whether or
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not that coercion might in fact backfire and result in greater poverty or drab uniformity or worse.
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The abuse of the coercion as we saw in the murderous states like USSR and Cambodia. So I think that he
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summarizes the problems with socialism from a Christian perspective, from a biblical perspective, really well.
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So to conclude all of this, a socialism is at best a well-intentioned ideology aimed at economic and
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social equality. And at worst, which is the only end of the spectrum that we've actually seen manifested
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throughout history and in the modern day, is a coercive, unjust, and unbiblical system that disincentivizes
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work eliminates generosity and controls every aspect of the populace. And it is the exact opposite of
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what needs to happen in the United States. Every aspect of your life will be controlled. If you think
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free speech, if you think freedom of religious expression, if you think the sanctity of life,
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if you think any of the rights that are recognized in the Bill of Rights, in the Constitution,
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if you think any of those are protected in a socialist society, you are crazy. When we give
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the government the full power to take care of us, we also give the government full authority to take
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over our lives. And that's exactly what happens in a socialist society. Do you think Christians,
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do you think the church is going to fare well in a socialist society? Well, of course,
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the gospel is going to thrive no matter what. The true church thrives on the margins. It's going to be
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okay when we are persecuted. But do you actually think that that's better for the least of these?
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Do you actually think that it's better for your community to be completely controlled and coerced
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by a central government through socialism in the name of forced compassion, which, as I've already
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said in this podcast, by definition is not compassion at all? Remember, we are the last hope. And as Ronald
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Reagan said, we are always one generation away from eliminating liberty. That's a paraphrase.
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We are always one generation away from giving up our freedom. Socialism might be attracted to a
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bunch of lazy people. And I'll give them the benefit of the doubt, maybe some empathetic people
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too, but it doesn't work. It leads to suffering. It leads to mediocrity. And it is not the future I
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want or you should want for your children. So like I said, this is not going to be an unbiased podcast
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episode. I have quite a few thoughts about socialism, but I hope you learned something. If you have any
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