Relatable with Allie Beth Stuckey - August 22, 2026


'We've Seen This Before': A Dad's Take on Today's Housing Crisis | Ron Simmons


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00:00:00.000 well hello everyone i hope everybody's having a great day i know that for most of you school
00:00:14.560 has started again with kids and that's uh kind of gets people back into a routine which can be good
00:00:20.600 but it's always sad to see the summer coming to an end but the heat wave across the south certainly
00:00:25.900 has not. I don't know where you are, of course, but it has been hot in the South. I will tell you,
00:00:31.420 we will look forward to fall coming. Football season's right around the corner, which is hard
00:00:36.160 to believe, but thank you very much for joining me today. Again, my name is Ron Simmons. I'm
00:00:41.000 Allie's dad. In fact, we have some questions occasionally from new people that are new to
00:00:45.760 Allie's show saying, well, who is your dad? Okay. Well, again, Allie's dad, Ron Simmons.
00:00:52.860 I grew up, my mom and dad were public school teachers in the South.
00:00:57.640 We grew up in pretty small towns, a couple of different places.
00:01:01.900 And I went to college, but mostly to night school.
00:01:06.460 My wife and I got married when I was 19.
00:01:09.360 She was 20.
00:01:10.480 She was robbing the cradle, so to speak.
00:01:13.120 And then I went into business for myself a few years later after working as an employee
00:01:17.800 for a couple of companies.
00:01:18.800 And then I started a business that was in the wealth management area.
00:01:23.180 And we had that company for 30 years, myself and some other partners and some great teammates.
00:01:31.060 And it was a great benefit for us.
00:01:33.520 We ended up managing about $3 billion when we sold it at the end of 2019.
00:01:39.640 And part of the time, even while I was working, I served in the Texas legislature.
00:01:43.920 So I've been very much involved in public service and politics for since, I guess, probably for the last 10, 15, probably 15 years have been been a part of our lives.
00:01:55.000 I'm not in the legislature anymore. I still serve on a couple of boards where I've been appointed by the governor of Texas and still engaged.
00:02:04.260 I've got several friends that are still elected officials. So I'm very much engaged in that.
00:02:07.880 And it's like Allie said, that politics matter because policy matters, because people matter, right?
00:02:14.220 I mean, that's true.
00:02:16.000 So that's us.
00:02:16.640 We do have, Allie has two brothers, and we have some grandchildren.
00:02:20.940 And so I really enjoy doing this twice a month that Allie allows me to do.
00:02:25.180 And I try to, in this, we're changing our format just a little bit for my episodes.
00:02:29.840 We're going to shorten it up, because people have a lot of stuff going on.
00:02:33.200 You don't always have an hour to listen to something.
00:02:35.780 So we're going to try to shorten it up.
00:02:36.960 and focus on the questions that you ask.
00:02:40.220 You send in a lot of great questions
00:02:41.840 and also bring you up to date on a couple of stories,
00:02:44.620 whether they're news stories related to politics or finance
00:02:47.460 and just kind of some of my experience
00:02:50.420 over the last 65 years of life.
00:02:54.720 I've gone through a lot,
00:02:56.000 just probably like your parents have seen a lot
00:02:57.980 and try to give you my perspective
00:03:00.260 as a husband and a dad and a follower of Christ,
00:03:03.940 as well as my experience in politics as well as business.
00:03:09.200 So looking forward to that.
00:03:10.640 Let's get started if we can today.
00:03:12.820 And one of the things I want to talk about first is
00:03:15.940 Allie Beth has done a couple of these debates
00:03:19.380 through an organization called Jubilee,
00:03:22.900 which we'll probably put the link in the show notes.
00:03:25.360 And she did one a year or two ago that was very,
00:03:28.980 she debated 20 different people, which was interesting.
00:03:31.780 But this one was a one-on-one debate that she just recently did, and it's got a lot of airplay as well.
00:03:38.440 And she was debating what I guess the lady would call herself a progressive Christian,
00:03:45.580 although she's gone through basically deconstruction,
00:03:48.780 which deconstruction is essentially where people have been believers in the past,
00:03:55.180 and then they've deconstructed their faith where they may not even be believers anymore.
00:04:00.240 I guess we'd have to ask them individually, but this lady was Monty Mader, and one of the subjects they got into, which you can imagine with Allie, is they got into a debate on pro-life and abortion.
00:04:16.180 And the way the format works is that you could not interrupt, Allie could not interrupt the lady when she was talking, there was a timer, and then the lady could not interrupt Allie.
00:04:26.620 but this lady's thoughts on abortion they in my opinion they go beyond deconstruction they go
00:04:35.340 all the way to just in my opinion satan controlled and here's what she had to say
00:04:42.700 about a baby again it comes back to autonomy using someone's organs to keep someone else alive
00:04:49.600 and not having the right to make that decision the reality is that everyone should be able to
00:04:53.520 make that choice. Christians should be able to affirm abortion, especially in cases of
00:04:57.600 an incest. How could a just God force that on a child? They could also say, no, I want doctors
00:05:03.500 making that decision because it's going to save more women's lives. Because the reality is
00:05:06.700 abortion bans increase maternal and infant mortality rates.
00:05:10.780 I mean, I just, I couldn't stand it. I mean, it just, I wanted to scream and I'm sure Allie did
00:05:17.580 too. I could tell a little bit by her facial expression about that. But let's just dive into
00:05:24.340 it a little bit. You know, she tries to say that we're using the woman's organs for the baby to be
00:05:32.840 there, which is true. And her argument is, well, if you're using my organs, then I should be able
00:05:38.900 to decide. Well, yeah, you could have decided not to get pregnant. And there are ways not to
00:05:46.460 get pregnant for sure. But then she brings up incest, which is a sad scenario. No question
00:05:51.980 about it. All right. But it's also a very, very small percentage of pregnancies. But remember
00:05:57.800 that the rape or the incest, that's what takes away the autonomy. It's not the baby, not the
00:06:05.500 pregnancy, that's due to the sex. But it doesn't mean that because someone has encountered this
00:06:18.540 horrible scenario, that a child should die who had no choice in the matter, right? There was no
00:06:26.320 choice. The child was formed. We believe that all children are formed in God's image. And so the
00:06:32.760 child should not be taken away his right to live. Now, whether or not the mom wants to keep the
00:06:40.420 child or put it up for adoption, that's a whole different subject. But the fact of the matter is
00:06:45.300 that a child is a human, as Allie talks about, if you listen to the thing, she talks about that
00:06:51.260 that baby was born immediately upon conception. And, you know, talks about the, she talks about
00:06:58.340 how could a just God, you know, allow this to happen? But it's, there's always evil in our
00:07:04.780 world. And when, you know, when something happens, rape or incest or whatever, that's evil and that's
00:07:10.680 awful. And nobody likes that. All right. But that's not God's, God didn't cause that to happen.
00:07:17.320 All right. The fallen world is what caused that to happen. And then talking about letting doctors
00:07:24.000 decide, well, what are the doctors going to decide? Yeah, if the mother's life is in danger,
00:07:31.660 which is a very rare case, and we're talking about the mom's going to die if she has the baby. You
00:07:36.800 got to make a choice, all right? Like Solomon's choice. He talks about between the mom and the
00:07:42.220 two moms and the baby. But that's very rare. That's not going to happen very often. So
00:07:48.680 there's been a lot of negative comments. The liberals have trolled Allie on this video a lot.
00:07:55.840 I would encourage you to listen to the video and put some positive comments on social media. Don't
00:08:02.520 let the liberals and the abortionists, you know, take all the air out of the room. Go in there and
00:08:08.820 support what Allie's talking about in the areas. And it's not just about abortion. There are other
00:08:13.660 subjects as well. But go in there and post on social media and get your friends to listen.
00:08:18.680 to it and post on social media. Because, you know, these are important issues. It's a fight
00:08:25.160 for the soul, not of America, just but of the world as well. So I would encourage you to listen
00:08:31.040 to that. Allie does a great job. I'm so proud of her for the work that she does on that. It's
00:08:37.240 pretty cool. And it is very hard for me to not lash out myself when I see people treating
00:08:43.620 Allie as hateful as they do sometimes. So she needs all our support, and I'd encourage you to
00:08:49.700 join me in doing that. Now let's move on a little bit about the economy. You know, being in the
00:08:55.140 investment business, one of the things that I've followed and have always followed, I guess, since
00:08:59.200 I got to be an adult, was economic issues. As a dad and a father and the leader of my house,
00:09:06.980 I had to be concerned in a micro scenario about our own finances and then how in a macro standpoint, how the country, the state, the city, the country that I lived in, how that affected what was going on in my household.
00:09:24.600 And a lot of people are really concerned about affordability.
00:09:29.040 And that's a legitimate concern.
00:09:30.660 I'm not here to tell you that's not a legitimate concern because it is a legitimate concern.
00:09:34.480 In fact, one of the questions that we have is, what about interest rates and housing prices being unaffordable?
00:09:40.960 Let's break this down for just a few minutes, OK?
00:09:44.540 And it is true that it is less affordable than it has been in the past.
00:09:50.340 But what's happened is not something that was caused by the Trump administration.
00:09:56.860 All of this occurred, because when Trump left office the last time, interest rates were just under 3%, okay, for mortgages.
00:10:08.580 But what happened when President Biden came in, and yes, we were still going through COVID and the stimulus packages.
00:10:18.500 I mean, Trump put in a stimulus package when COVID was kind of getting going good.
00:10:25.840 But by the time Biden got in, it was waning off, but he still put another stimulus package in there, and that always causes prices to increase.
00:10:36.080 When there's more money available, people are willing to pay more for things, and that's one of the reasons that inflation occurs.
00:10:44.840 But the number one failure, in my opinion, of the Biden administration that has caused especially the housing issue was the allowing of millions and millions of illegal aliens to enter our country.
00:11:01.980 That is the number one, because when they come in to the country, they have got to eat.
00:11:07.100 OK, so there's more people demanding, making demand for food and other services, and they've got to have somewhere to live.
00:11:13.640 And so, therefore, there's a greater demand for housing, and the supply did not meet the demand.
00:11:23.360 In fact, it's still struggling to meet the demand, even though I think the numbers now is close to 3 million people that were here illegally are no longer here.
00:11:33.780 They've been sent back to their own country, either through self-deportation or the government deporting them because they had a criminal record or had committed crimes here.
00:11:45.400 So that's the number one issue, in my opinion.
00:11:48.740 But the issue that's going on is very similar to what it was when President Reagan went into office in the early 80s.
00:11:58.760 In fact, he entered office in January of 81.
00:12:01.580 It's just so interesting because Lisa and I were about where a lot of you are then. We were just
00:12:05.820 kind of getting going in our adult life. We'd only been married a very short period of time,
00:12:10.140 and so we were looking at the same things that you were looking at. And it had come out of a,
00:12:16.060 on the backs of Reagan was elected right after Jimmy Carter had been president for four years.
00:12:22.620 And again, a single-term president like Biden was a single-term president. And the mid-70s was
00:12:29.980 pretty much a disaster economically. We had gas prices. We had gas shortages, actually. We had
00:12:37.360 to be in gas lines. In fact, the energy shortage was such that President Carter would come on in
00:12:44.140 his cardigan sweater and tell everybody to turn their thermostats down during the winter and just
00:12:50.320 put on extra clothing and turn them up in the summertime, which it's okay if you want to do
00:12:56.820 that. But to be kind of fatalist mentality for that, rather than saying, hey, let's go see if
00:13:05.020 we can find, you know, more energy. How do we produce more energy? I remember in the early
00:13:09.980 70s that people were predicting that we would be out of oil around the world in like 19 years from
00:13:17.440 then. Of course, it's been much longer than that. And we have more oil and those types of supplies
00:13:22.900 than we've ever had.
00:13:23.680 Plus, we have figured out how to harness some solar energy.
00:13:28.180 In some cases, I'm not a huge fan of it,
00:13:31.200 although I find if that's what you want to do.
00:13:33.520 Certainly not a fan of wind energy.
00:13:35.180 I think that's not proven to be, at least where we are, very successful.
00:13:41.720 And it actually hurts our overall capacity to provide electricity
00:13:46.440 to all of our neighbors.
00:13:48.620 In 1980 and 81, 79, 80, and 81, think about this, all right, is that inflation rose 10% annually.
00:14:00.220 10% annually is how much things went up overall.
00:14:06.280 And the index rose from 6.5% in 77 to 13.5% in 1980.
00:14:14.320 But then by 1982, it had dropped, similar to what is happening now, to 6.2%.
00:14:20.820 The median family home value rose 43% during the 70s versus 8.2% in the 80s.
00:14:30.560 This is from the U.S. Census Bureau.
00:14:32.700 So look at that.
00:14:34.040 So all of this, again, rather than increasing production, it was all about constricting.
00:14:42.120 And that caused what we had in the housing market to go up.
00:14:45.800 Same thing that's happening right now.
00:14:48.000 The 30-year fixed mortgage rate was 18.6% in October of 1981.
00:14:55.300 Can you imagine that?
00:14:56.260 I remember when Lisa and I bought our first house, it was 13% or 14%.
00:14:59.720 Crazy.
00:15:01.480 And then for most of the 80s, though, it went down to 10%, which we all thought was pretty good.
00:15:07.480 but of course we know that it really got a lot better after that. In January of 21,
00:15:13.860 as I mentioned earlier, the mortgage rates were 3%, and then inflation hit 9% in year-over-year
00:15:25.820 June 2022, the highest reading in 40 years inflation was. You have to remember what
00:15:32.760 happened during that period of time. All right. And what happened is, is that the home price
00:15:40.540 growth was 17 and a half percent year over year in the fourth quarter of 2021. And that is in a
00:15:48.000 large part, there are two things. One, as I said, it was all the illegal aliens coming in. And two,
00:15:56.080 when COVID happened, a lot of people were looking to buy second homes because they wanted to have
00:16:01.600 an alternative to get to. And that raised prices as well. So all that slowed down with the home
00:16:10.320 prices since in 2025 only went up 1.8% versus the 17%. And as of May 2026, only 2.2%. So
00:16:20.960 things are still not as affordable as we want them to be. In fact, the mortgage rates now
00:16:28.140 is still about 6.6%. But I will tell you that President Trump and his people and the Republican
00:16:36.160 Congress have done the stuff that they can do. Now, we still have to fight inflation. And
00:16:42.600 unfortunately, the best way to fight inflation is to keep interest rates higher because that slows
00:16:50.320 down the economy and it reduces demand is what generally happens. And the balancing of that
00:16:58.640 is where the devil is in the details. And that's what Treasury Secretary Bissett and them are
00:17:04.140 trying to do. But as you can see here, what's happened to mortgage rates over the years,
00:17:10.700 where we are right now is kind of much more average of what we've seen over the last 30
00:17:17.500 years. It doesn't mean that it's any easier to buy a home. I get the issue, but it's much more
00:17:24.020 average. You can see some of the peaks and valleys in this. But I do think that interest rates will
00:17:30.260 eventually come down. I thought they would already be down by now, but I think they'll be coming down
00:17:35.260 hopefully over the next year or so, more in the 5% range, and that would be very, very good.
00:17:43.080 But it does change on what type of house you can afford.
00:17:46.400 It changes on where you can live, and I get that.
00:17:49.220 I really do.
00:17:49.960 And maybe now is not the time to buy a house.
00:17:51.880 Maybe you just need to continue to rent for a while until the supply catches up with demand
00:17:57.280 and interest rates settle down.
00:17:58.860 So talk about a couple of other financial things.
00:18:01.700 A young man asked the question, how do you generate wealth for the average young man?
00:18:06.080 Well, just remember, there's only two ways you can generate wealth, and I'm not talking
00:18:10.380 about inheritance, okay, that you generate them.
00:18:12.800 And one is that you you are able to have income like through your job or whatever it is that you're doing to create income and you live off of the income less than what you live, less than what you make and you invest the rest.
00:18:29.840 All right. And there are plenty of good occupations that you can do that.
00:18:33.960 And I've got a really good friend that's an insurance agent, and he really can't sell his agency when he gets ready to retire because all the value is based in him and his relationships.
00:18:47.400 But what he's been able to do, he and his wife have lived off less than what they've made.
00:18:52.020 And so with the extra portion, they've invested that over their career, and he has done very, very well.
00:18:59.780 And they'll be able to have that huge asset number when he's ready to retire or slow down or maybe participate in something else that he'll be able to use that.
00:19:12.100 The second way, first way is income, live off less than what you make, invest the rest.
00:19:17.060 The second way is, which we should always live off less than what we make.
00:19:20.760 But the second way is to have a business that you're either the owner of or a part owner of that can be sold down the road.
00:19:28.720 That's the avenue that Lisa and I took. I own this wealth management company with a few other partners. And over time, because that wealth management company could continue after I was gone, I made sure that's why I never put my name on the company. Never want to have your own name on the company. That is a mistake because then it's all dependent on you and you're tied to that.
00:19:51.240 And so, but when we sold our company, we had sold a business that was generating
00:19:55.960 20 to $30 million worth of revenue, and there are other firms that would pay for that, right?
00:20:02.880 Rather than having to go start it and build it themselves, they would pay for that.
00:20:05.480 So they paid us a handsome sum, and that's how we created our so-called nest egg.
00:20:10.060 Now, we invested our extra money during our lifetime as well, during my career as well,
00:20:14.740 but our big nest egg came from the asset that we had built.
00:20:18.600 So it's either income or asset. All right. All right. Now, last thing for today, we talk a little bit about parenting.
00:20:24.060 Always get questions on that. One of them was, which I touched on earlier, is how do you handle and walk through seeing the vitriol and hate of your daughter?
00:20:33.840 It's very, very difficult. And we just have to pray about it.
00:20:36.880 I have to make sure that I'm always encouraging her because even though she doesn't, you know, follow the trolls, it does have an effect on you gets discouraging.
00:20:45.640 The second question was parenting advice in the age of perfect parents on social media.
00:20:50.820 You have to make sure that you have your children around other normal people and normal families.
00:20:58.920 And you have to just, again, remind yourself and remind them that life is not perfect and that every family has its own issues and that we have to work through those as a family.
00:21:10.880 nothing that we see out there on social media about how everything perfect is, is true. And so
00:21:17.580 we just have to, I think, having, first of all, limiting social media for all of us, but then also
00:21:22.960 making sure that you have your family around other families that are what we would call normal.
00:21:29.880 Anyway, thank you for your time today. It's been a good one. We'll look forward to see you in a
00:21:33.460 couple of weeks. Don't forget, if you're interested in my book, Life Lessons from the
00:21:37.140 Little Red Wagon or Allie's bestseller, Toxic Empathy. You can buy those anywhere you buy books.
00:21:42.500 Have a good day.