RFK Jr. The Defender - Child Casualty In Ohio with Marie Follmer

Marie Fulmar shares the tragic story of her son, Grayson Fulmar, who was injured by the vaccine, the Coagulated Viral Intermittent Chilling Virus (COID) and later died from the disease. Marie shares the story of what happened to her son and how she and her family dealt with the aftermath. Marie also shares why she believes everyone should get the vaccine and why it should be the first in the United States to be tested for Coagulation-Induced Cardiothoracic Vascular Interruption (CODI) and how important it is to get the shot. Marie is a mother and wife, and her son is a student athlete at the University of Ohio and a member of the elite soccer team, the Columbus Crew. She is a mom of two and a wife to a 20-year-old daughter and a 19-year old son, and she is a grandmother to three adult children. She also has a younger daughter with rare congenital birth defects who was born with an airway obstruction and breathing problems, who has long-term life-threatening issues and is now 20 years old and living with her family in a special care home. She shares her experience with her son's injury and how her family is coping with the disease and recovery from this traumatic experience and how it has changed her family's life and the way she lives her family life and her plans for the future of her family and her children's future in the future. She also shares her thoughts on whether or not to get her twin son, Skylar, who is ready for the vaccine. and why she thinks he should be given the shot at the next time he's eligible for the next round of COID treatment. Thank you for listening to this episode! to everyone who reached out and shared their story and shares their story. to help spread awareness about this important topic. Thanks so much to everyone involved in this podcast and support the fight for this cause and their courage and courage to fight for the fight against this fight for our son's recovery. You are so we can keep fighting for our twin. Thank you, and so much more! Thankyou for listening and supporting this cause, and keep fighting the fight, and supporting us in this fight against childhood immunization and education and prevention. Love you are not alone, and stay strong, and we will keep fighting, and thank you for all the support, and I will keep you in the fight.

00:00:00.000 Hi, everybody.

00:00:01.000 I'm here today with a special guest, Marie Fulmar.

00:00:04.000 She is talking to us from Columbus, Ohio.

00:00:08.000 Tragically, her son Grayson was injured by the vaccine, by the Pfizer vaccine.

00:00:15.000 You got the Moderna vaccine, right? 0.97

00:00:18.000 That's correct.

00:00:19.000 My husband and I both got the Moderna.

00:00:21.000 We were fine.

00:00:23.000 Well, tell us what happened to Grayson.

00:00:26.000 Sure.

00:00:26.000 So Grayson is a twin.

00:00:28.000 He goes to Ohio State.

00:00:29.000 He did get COVID the beginning of the school year in September.

00:00:33.000 So he's a freshman starting at OSU. He's in ROTC. He got COVID and it hit him pretty hard.

00:00:40.000 You know, a lot of the students there Also got the virus, and most didn't get sick, but Grayson did.

00:00:47.000 So he had to quarantine at home.

00:00:49.000 So I went down about 15 minutes away, picked him up, brought him home, and he was in quarantine.

00:00:55.000 So he was probably...

00:00:56.000 Grayson is an elite athlete, so he was a state champion soccer player, and he exercises every day.

00:01:08.000 He was running about 15 miles a day.

00:01:10.000 Even, you know, after he was released to go back, you know, everyone wanted to go back to school.

00:01:15.000 He was a freshman.

00:01:16.000 He wanted to start.

00:01:17.000 He was getting behind by the delay of having COVID. He had to quarantine, and then he just had to go to the doctors.

00:01:23.000 He had to get an MRI to get released to go back to ROTC. And that's when we saw the heart inflammation the first time.

00:01:31.000 Well, that was the heart inflammation that was caused by COVID-19, the disease.

00:01:37.000 Yeah, you're right.

00:01:38.000 After he got released to go back, we had an MRI, we looked at it, I spoke with the doctor, and the doctor saw the inflammation, and he attributed it to, he's an elite athlete, so it's not uncommon for athletes to have larger hearts.

00:01:55.000 He was okay with us going back to ROTC. So Grayson returned to school, got better, pretty much.

00:02:02.000 He never felt 100%, but he got better.

00:02:04.000 He went skiing in the winter.

00:02:06.000 Springtime, he went on spring break.

00:02:08.000 And then we got the shot in April.

00:02:11.000 The first shot was in April, April 16th.

00:02:13.000 And I have a younger daughter who has some Chronic health issues.

00:02:17.000 So for us, I am in no way an anti-vaccine person.

00:02:21.000 We lived in the hospital environment for most of my youngest daughter's life.

00:02:25.000 She's got long-term life-threatening issues. 0.91

00:02:29.000 So I'm very disappointed.

00:02:31.000 She has autoimmune issues.

00:02:33.000 Exactly.

00:02:33.000 She was born with congenital birth defects, essentially.

00:02:36.000 She has one lung. 0.99

00:02:38.000 Her airway was reconstructed.

00:02:39.000 Basically, every body system in her body has been impacted from birth.

00:02:43.000 So I've kind of lived the way that COVID hit the broader world.

00:02:49.000 We always were aware of people being sick and washing our hands and Living in, not a bubble, we never lived in a bubble, but a common cold, we were very aware, could kill my daughter.

00:03:00.000 So, of course, I was in heightened awareness for COVID and concerned with us bringing that to her, especially, because she would be in that less than 1% population that would get The virus and would potentially die, likely die.

00:03:14.000 We've grown accustomed to understanding that norm.

00:03:17.000 And so Grayson, you know, I wanted the children to get the vaccine for safety, for one, if he got it again because he got sick, I thought it would help his situation.

00:03:28.000 You know, I wasn't told that if somebody had a reaction or if there was inflammation of the heart, never to not get the vaccine, that it could do more damage.

00:03:38.000 And that's what I'm learning now, is that I'm feeling, frankly, guilty about, I went down to OSU, I picked up my daughter, and I have a son, or a daughter and my son, my son Grayson, and my daughter, who's 20.

00:03:49.000 So my son is 19, and I have a daughter that's 20, that also goes to Ohio State.

00:03:53.000 So I picked them both up, and I had a friend who could get us in to get the shot for them.

00:03:58.000 So I got them both the shot, kind of figured it would be easier for me to just go down there, pick them up, get it done, and be done with it, put this behind us.

00:04:06.000 Grayson is a twin.

00:04:07.000 His twin goes to Ohio University.

00:04:09.000 They weren't out of school, so Sky did not get the vaccine.

00:04:13.000 Of course, now he's watching everything that we're experiencing with Grayson.

00:04:17.000 And there's no way he'll get the vaccine.

00:04:18.000 And so I'm concerned about the university saying, you know, everyone must get the vaccine or what their protocol is going to be when he wants to go back, because there's no way that my twin son is going to get the vaccine at this point.

00:04:30.000 And I was ready for my youngest, who's going to be 12 in August, I would have been first in line to get her the vaccine, because I want to protect my children.

00:04:40.000 And the messaging that is happening in today's world is very much a push to get this experimental medicine put into their bodies.

00:04:50.000 And no one is really acknowledging that there are issues.

00:04:54.000 And that's why I think it's important to share.

00:04:57.000 If somebody had said to me, I'm an educated person, like most families and most parents, you want to do the right thing.

00:05:02.000 If someone would have just said to me at any point in time, if they have a reaction, don't get the shot, it's not safe.

00:05:10.000 We wouldn't be in this situation.

00:05:12.000 So it's devastating.

00:05:15.000 You know, he was an athlete all his life.

00:05:17.000 He's thinking he's not going to go back to school in the fall.

00:05:20.000 He's thinking he's potentially not going to survive because he feels so sick.

00:05:24.000 The hospitals, we've gone to the emergency room since the first shot probably 10 times, different emergency rooms around the area.

00:05:32.000 And I feel as though I'm being gaslighted in a way.

00:05:37.000 I'm not being listened to.

00:05:39.000 No one will acknowledge that this was vaccine-related, regardless of the timing that it all happened.

00:05:47.000 That's important for me to share.

00:05:49.000 Again, I'm a supporter of vaccines, but I didn't know any better.

00:05:53.000 Like any parent, you would just, from the time they're little, do what the doctors are advising you to do.

00:05:58.000 And right now our governor is really pushing it as well for all athletes.

00:06:01.000 In Ohio, he released the state restrictions as of like Friday, the state of emergency.

00:06:07.000 But at the same day, he also was urging athletes to get back to normal so they can play their sports and have their games.

00:06:14.000 And to get the vaccine.

00:06:15.000 It's kind of frustrating to me because not one doctor in those 10 hospital visits ever said, we're going to call the CDC for you, or you should call the CDC and report this.

00:06:26.000 They never did.

00:06:27.000 And they never followed up with us to see how he's doing.

00:06:30.000 And we're dealing with daily issues of a 19 year old who feels like he's having a heart attack.

00:06:35.000 So it's awful.

00:06:36.000 You know, Grayson had asthma and food allergies.

00:06:41.000 He did, but they never affected him at all.

00:06:44.000 He rarely even took medicine.

00:06:46.000 Are those vaccine injuries?

00:06:49.000 I don't know.

00:06:50.000 I never thought about it.

00:06:51.000 You know, we just kind of pushed through.

00:06:53.000 We had a busy life because of my youngest.

00:06:55.000 So there were years where I didn't really stop and take care of him as well as I probably should have because I was dealing with my youngest issues.

00:07:02.000 It wasn't until he was a teenager where he started to have more indigestion and she was stable and I got him into children's with her doctors and they said he's got, you know, EOE and that's how we even determined that he had Food allergies.

00:07:15.000 Because we really, he never changed his diet.

00:07:19.000 He didn't have any issues, but it's likely that some other issue may have caused that.

00:07:24.000 And honestly, I never thought as a parent about other parents going through vaccine issues the way I do today, which it's eye-opening.

00:07:34.000 And I feel embarrassed that I didn't really get the concern that they've had around vaccines, you know?

00:07:41.000 And now I realize it.

00:07:43.000 Did your doctor tell you that the Pfizer vaccine is contraindicated for people who have food allergies?

00:07:52.000 Nobody has.

00:07:53.000 Not one person.

00:07:54.000 Never.

00:07:55.000 And I didn't know that.

00:07:57.000 And, you know, that's why I feel somewhat foolish that I didn't do research on the vaccines.

00:08:01.000 I feel like we talk about herd immunity.

00:08:04.000 I feel like I was the herd mentality.

00:08:06.000 I just got in line and went right in thinking that there would never be any issue for my family at all.

00:08:12.000 So I went in blindly and that's the message that I think should be shared with parents is to don't go in blindly and think that it can't happen to you.

00:08:21.000 And I heard a report that it was like being struck by lightning.

00:08:25.000 I don't feel like it's that uncommon to be being struck by lightning because I have other people in my community that are dealing with the same issues as I posted on Facebook.

00:08:35.000 It's coming out of the woodwork to me personally.

00:08:37.000 Again, the CDC, no one in the hospital, not one emergency room doctor or anyone that we followed up with ever said to us, we need to report this.

00:08:47.000 We need to get it to the VAR system.

00:08:48.000 I wouldn't have even known where to go except from my post on Facebook when I posted that he was sick.

00:08:54.000 Somebody gave me the link.

00:08:56.000 I followed up with the CDC. I was then transferred to VARs.

00:09:00.000 And then the virus transferred me to another phone number.

00:09:02.000 I left a detailed message.

00:09:03.000 I asked for follow-up.

00:09:05.000 I still haven't heard from anybody.

00:09:07.000 I just don't know what to do to give them help.

00:09:09.000 That's the other thing that I think probably a lot of people are struggling with, is if it's not being reported accurately, And I think a lot of doctors, you know, they work for the system where if the governor in the state is really pushing to get everyone vaccinated, these doctors are not, they're not going to stand up against their organizations and even acknowledge that this is vaccine related, in my opinion now.

00:09:32.000 But your doctors did ultimately report it to VAERS. I did.

00:09:38.000 No one, no doctors have.

00:09:40.000 Not even his primary care doctors.

00:09:42.000 I called them.

00:09:43.000 And CDC never contacted you.

00:09:45.000 Never.

00:09:47.000 So, and I'm waiting because I would like to have some sort of guidance on what can I do to get him some medical help because I know that this is related.

00:09:59.000 I mean, he's suffering every day.

00:10:00.000 I just feel like there's some, there is a willful disregard right now for myself and for others that may be trying to communicate that we're having this issue and it just being acknowledged.

00:10:16.000 Take us through what happened.

00:10:18.000 How did he know that he was sick?

00:10:20.000 Well, when he got the virus in September, he had flu-like symptoms, so he was in bed.

00:10:25.000 And I went down there and I saw him and I thought, you have this virus.

00:10:28.000 Got him tested, was positive, took him home, you know, had him isolate in the basement.

00:10:34.000 Then when he recovered, he was fine.

00:10:36.000 This time with the shot, he immediately was having chest pain.

00:10:41.000 His veins in his arms felt like he was Someone was pouring acid into his veins.

00:10:46.000 The first shot?

00:10:48.000 Yeah, even after the first shot, but I didn't recognize it because my youngest was having a hip surgery and I was kind of preoccupied.

00:10:54.000 So I sent him, you know, he's 18, 19 now.

00:10:57.000 I sent him to, well, go to the ER if you think you're having a, go, you know, and send him on his own.

00:11:01.000 The first time I went, the second time, I think in that same post first shot, he went twice after the first shot to the ER. So he was having issues, but I wasn't connecting that it was, I didn't know what was going on.

00:11:13.000 He was saying, I don't feel good, you know, and kind of getting panicky about it.

00:11:17.000 But after the second shot, it was very clear.

00:11:19.000 He went downhill.

00:11:21.000 He was significantly worse after the second shot.

00:11:23.000 He didn't have fever.

00:11:25.000 It's not that.

00:11:26.000 It's just chest pain where he feels like he's having a heart attack.

00:11:29.000 His veins in his arms feel like somebody put acid into his arms, and he's got high blood pressure now.

00:11:34.000 High blood pressure.

00:11:36.000 And he's a healthy child.

00:11:37.000 He changed his entire diet in the last month and a half to take out anything that he could possibly be allergic to.

00:11:45.000 So he only eats fish and, you know, lettuce, essentially, vegetables, and only certain types of vegetables at this point.

00:11:52.000 So I'm proud of him.

00:11:53.000 He's really trying to get better, but it's very concerning to him.

00:11:57.000 He's worried.

00:11:58.000 I'm scared.

00:11:59.000 Is he at home now?

00:12:00.000 He's at home, yeah.

00:12:01.000 He doesn't want to go back.

00:12:03.000 I saw those pictures of him in the hospital, and it was really heartbreaking for me because I have children that age.

00:12:10.000 I have, you know, one who's an elite athlete, and if that happened to him, I really don't know how I could handle it. 0.94

00:12:18.000 And your boy is such a crazy person.

00:12:22.000 You know, incredibly handsome, like just beautiful child.

00:12:26.000 And just in that hospital bed completely destroyed.

00:12:32.000 It just broke my heart.

00:12:34.000 Right.

00:12:35.000 Now the direction I'm going is alternative medicine too, because I'm not getting any protocol or anything other than give them Advil in terms of getting them healthy.

00:12:44.000 So I am, you know, going a different direction with that here in Ohio, but I'm fortunate because I just think about other families who might not have, I got lucky to be able to get into a doctor that I'm seeing and other families may not have that same opportunity.

00:12:57.000 And, and additionally, I really think it's just going to start, we're just going to hit that beginning of that bell shaped curve.

00:13:03.000 Because really, the kids just started getting it in April and May.

00:13:07.000 And so I only think we're at the beginning of these stories, frankly.

00:13:11.000 I still don't understand how it could be as rare as getting struck by lightning when I'm hearing stories from my friends locally.

00:13:18.000 I have another girlfriend whose son is going through exactly the same thing, and he's 21 years old.

00:13:23.000 He's fit.

00:13:24.000 He's been an athlete.

00:13:26.000 He's in college.

00:13:27.000 So it's very, very scary.

00:13:29.000 It's very scary.

00:13:30.000 And he And now he gets up in the middle of the night and they're almost like attacks.

00:13:35.000 It's not constant, you know, it's sort of a rolling episodes, I'll call them, of attacks.

00:13:41.000 And now he's not going to go to the emergency room, neither will I, because they aren't doing anything.

00:13:45.000 At the same time, I don't want to see my son have a heart attack in my living room or in his bedroom.

00:13:50.000 So he and I are having a little bit of butting heads, like, I've got to take you, even though I know they can't do anything for you, because I want to make sure that you're not in the middle of a heart attack.

00:13:59.000 So I have to do some follow-up tests, too.

00:14:02.000 He's just having all kinds of very weird symptoms, and he's just sick, and it's really unfortunate.

00:14:08.000 And I'm disappointed with the media because I really feel like they're spinning to get all of these kids vaccinated, vaccinated, vaccinated, and I bought in.

00:14:17.000 And hook, line, and sinker, I got my two children that were home in the area, the shot.

00:14:22.000 The other one He got lucky, in my opinion.

00:14:25.000 And I won't get my 12-year-old, even though I know the risk is very high that if she gets COVID, she likely will not survive it.

00:14:32.000 But I won't get her this vaccine at this point.

00:14:35.000 And I've never been like that in my entire life.

00:14:37.000 I just didn't know.

00:14:38.000 I didn't research it well enough, I guess.

00:14:41.000 And I feel guilty as a mother.

00:14:44.000 It's hurtful.

00:14:45.000 You know, it's sad.

00:14:46.000 And I don't know if he's going to recover.

00:14:48.000 We're trying.

00:14:48.000 We're doing everything we can.

00:14:50.000 To give him vitamin A, zinc.

00:14:53.000 So I am doing some experimental things right now, but I'm just trying to help him get better.

00:14:59.000 Very sad.

00:15:01.000 And again, I think my other message is that I really feel like the doctors in the hospital, they don't want to acknowledge that it's vaccine related.

00:15:08.000 And that's very concerning to me.

00:15:10.000 I don't understand why.

00:15:11.000 It leads me to be skeptical.

00:15:13.000 I've never been one to be skeptical of our medical field, especially having dealt with, you know, 11 years with my youngest.

00:15:21.000 From every specialty, she's got everything that you could ever imagine.

00:15:24.000 She's had brain surgery. 0.96

00:15:26.000 She's had spinal surgery.

00:15:27.000 She's just had her hip reconstruction.

00:15:29.000 She has one lung and 25% lung capacity that she lives with.

00:15:34.000 She's missing other organs. 1.00

00:15:36.000 I've just dealt with a lot and I've never seen anything like this in all of the 10 years that I've unfortunately got pushed into the medical space.

00:15:44.000 I'm very trusting too.

00:15:45.000 So I trusted what the doctors tell you, you know, young parents.

00:15:49.000 My own children, when they go to the pediatricians, they're going to be told to have all these vaccines.

00:15:52.000 And now I'm skeptical.

00:15:54.000 And I'll definitely, I hope that other people, other parents will be out of the message that you're able to share.

00:16:00.000 And I hope the CDC will start to address and listen because it's not, it can't be that rare.

00:16:07.000 I mean, I couldn't be that, you know, unlucky, I guess.

00:16:12.000 Marie, I'm going to offline, I'm going to hook you up with doctors. 0.99

00:16:18.000 And with our organization, we have a very, very strong local state organization, CHD in Ohio, and I think those are people who can recommend things that may help you.

00:16:31.000 Thank you.

00:16:32.000 Our audience would love to know how to support you and also to pray for you.

00:16:37.000 Thank you.

00:16:39.000 If you have social media, why don't you tell us how people can follow you?

00:16:44.000 And, you know, you'll end up getting a lot of these people who contact you and some of them are going to have really good ideas.

00:16:49.000 Not all of them.

00:16:50.000 Some of them could be wacky, but a lot of them are going to have really valuable ideas.

00:16:58.000 I appreciate that.

00:16:59.000 You know, when you have nothing, you're kind of like, hey, I'm desperate.

00:17:02.000 I'll take any piece of advice and try anything.

00:17:05.000 I'm very open to whatever to try to help my son, and I appreciate that.

00:17:09.000 I'm having some weird things since I started posting some of this on Facebook.

00:17:12.000 You know, I kind of feel like I'm getting blocked a bit on sharing my messaging.

00:17:17.000 I can virtually guarantee that.

00:17:20.000 Yeah, so I don't know if I'll have that, but that's about all that I've really been on in terms of...

00:17:25.000 But how do people find you on Facebook?

00:17:28.000 I'm on Facebook, and right now I was, for the longest time, very private.

00:17:32.000 Why don't you spell your name?

00:17:35.000 Sure, it's M-A-R-I-E. My last name is Follmer, F-O-L-L-M-E-R. You know, I appreciate the prayers because I do know, I've watched miracles in my past with my daughter, and I'm optimistic.

00:17:46.000 We have a great alternative medicine doctor that I'm working with.

00:17:50.000 He's very confident, and I trust him, and so does Grayson.

00:17:53.000 You really trust them that we're going to get better.

00:17:55.000 But the one thing that I definitely think is going on here that my radar is up about is about, you know, bed rest and sleep.

00:18:03.000 I think a lot of the doctors are advising the teens to kind of take it easy and not do anything.

00:18:08.000 And I've noticed that on good days, when Grayson tries to do something, The next day is worse.

00:18:13.000 So he takes a step forward and I think things might be going in the right direction.

00:18:18.000 And even if he tries to attempt to push, you know, the lawnmower or the other day, I tried to take him golfing.

00:18:24.000 He looked good.

00:18:25.000 He looked like healthy.

00:18:26.000 We went out on the golf course.

00:18:27.000 He was in a cart, but he had to, that night was a nightmare.

00:18:30.000 You know, it's just, it's very weird.

00:18:32.000 This vaccine reaction, the reaction is very different than he had when he got sick with the virus.

00:18:39.000 It's not like flu-like symptoms.

00:18:40.000 Again, it's like vein issues and blood pressure constantly high and the constant feeling of a heart attack.

00:18:46.000 I guess the bed rest, you know, I hate to do that to a 19-year-old, but I can't see into the future and we're just going to take it day by day.

00:18:53.000 That's what we're doing.

00:18:54.000 Thank you.

00:18:55.000 Marie Fulmar, thank you.

00:18:56.000 You're a tough lady, and we will all be praying for you.

00:19:00.000 Thank you for the time.

00:19:01.000 Thanks for taking the time.

00:19:02.000 I really appreciate the fact that you spend all...

00:19:04.000 I mean, I know you're a busy person, but you spend the time trying to help the children with this and your missions.

00:19:10.000 I'm amazed, actually, and appreciative.

00:19:12.000 So thank you.

00:19:14.000 Have a good day.

00:19:15.000 If there's anything you need, please feel free to reach out.

00:19:18.000 Thank you.

00:19:19.000 Have a wonderful day.

RFK Jr. The Defender - June 25, 2021

Child Casualty In Ohio with Marie Follmer

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