RFK Jr. The Defender - Country Doctor on Medical Experiments with Dr. Charles Hoffe

Dr. Charles Hoff from Lytton, British Columbia, Canada is a First Nations doctor, scientist, researcher, and activist. He is one of the few people in the world who is willing to stand up to medical totalitarianism and fight for the rights of First Nations people. In this episode, Dr. Hoff shares his story of how he stood up to the medical establishment and fought for his patients, and how he became a hero to the people of his community. He is also the author of the book, "Vaccine Revolution: The Story of a Doctor Who Defied the Medical Cartel" and is a regular contributor to the New York Times and the Guardian, and has been featured in The Guardian, The Globe and Mail, and many other publications. He has been a member of the Canadian Medical Association, and was awarded the Order of Canada in 2018 for his courage in standing up for First Nations patients and fighting for their rights to access and access to vaccines and treatment of HIV/AIDS. This episode is part of a series we're doing on heroic physicians and doctors from all over the world, who have just said that they are willing to fight for their patients and speak out against the medical industry's totalitarianism, and stand up for what they believe is good medicine. against the tyranny that we should all be allowed to have access to. We hope you'll join us in our efforts to make a difference in the fight for human rights and human dignity. Thank you for listening and supporting our work. - we can't wait to do more of these amazing people like Dr. H Hoff's courage and courage! in the coming episodes. Thank you so much for being brave enough to share their stories and courageously fighting for our patients, courage, and courage, courageously speaking up for their truth and standing up against the truth and fighting to speak out for what matters. Peace, love, and respect, and hope that we can all have a voice for their voices heard everywhere, everywhere, no matter where they are heard. and everywhere they can be heard thank you, thank you for being heard and seen and understood, and we love you. Your support is so much more than we can do it. xoxo, your support will be so we can have a better day to help spread the word out there. Music: The Good Fight, by The Good Life Project by Joseph McDade - The GoodLife Project

00:00:00.000 Welcome back everybody.

00:00:01.000 I'm very excited about my guest today, Dr.

00:00:04.000 Charles Hoff from Lytton.

00:00:06.000 You're up in British Columbia, right?

00:00:10.000 Yes, correct.

00:00:11.000 In British Columbia, I'm in a small town about three or four hours inland from Vancouver.

00:00:17.000 And would you call that kind of mid-coast?

00:00:19.000 We're in this sort of on the edge of the coastal mountain range that one drives through when one leaves Vancouver.

00:00:26.000 So the Rockies are further east towards Alberta.

00:00:30.000 So this is a different mountain range that runs up and down the coast.

00:00:34.000 The Coast Range, yes.

00:00:36.000 You're part of a series that we're doing on heroic physicians and doctors from all over the world.

00:00:45.000 Who've just said that they're going to stand up to this kind of medical totalitarianism that we're seeing.

00:00:51.000 And I know that you've, you know, been particularly courageous because you're really alone up in that part of the world.

00:00:59.000 And you've had the entire medical cartel in Canada, which was once the most democratic nation in the world.

00:01:08.000 And it has taken this really, really ugly turn recently.

00:01:12.000 So will you tell us what happened to you?

00:01:14.000 You work in what we would call a reservation in our country, but it's really an Indigenous community in Canada.

00:01:23.000 Yes, that is correct.

00:01:25.000 So I'll give you some background.

00:01:26.000 The patients in my medical practice are probably 70% First Nations.

00:01:33.000 And so I don't actually work on a reservation, but the reservations here are small and they're spread out and scattered.

00:01:39.000 And so people come to me from a, you know, it's probably a 50 kilometer radius in each direction.

00:01:45.000 They're mostly First Nations people.

00:01:47.000 So how this all started, because I have never been...

00:01:52.000 An activist or one that ever wanted to be in the limelight in any way.

00:01:56.000 I've just been a country doctor quietly trying to get on with my job and look after my patients.

00:02:02.000 So what happened was the Moderna vaccine was the one selected for our population group.

00:02:09.000 Initially, it was given to a group of 900 First Nations people in our community, and that was in mid-January of this year, 2021.

00:02:18.000 So then shortly after that, I actually went off to South Africa to go and visit my 89-year-old mother, who was in despair and terror over all the COVID. She kept watching the news and was absolutely terrified and was literally Losing her mind to some degree because she was, I think, just very afraid and very isolated.

00:02:39.000 And fortunately, she was in her own home but couldn't have visitors and was in despair.

00:02:46.000 So I went to South Africa and spent a month with her.

00:02:49.000 And then I came back to Canada and I had to do some period of isolation and the usual things.

00:02:55.000 And so I came back to work after a six-week gap.

00:02:58.000 I'd been following the international scene with, you know, trying to keep up on research and trying to just find out as much as possible about COVID-19 and available options and these vaccines and all of that.

00:03:13.000 Very shortly after my return to work, I became quite alarmed at the number of serious side effects that were being reported from Europe and from the U.S., And one of the basic principles of medical ethics is that if you're doing an experiment, which is what this is, I mean, this really is an experiment.

00:03:35.000 This kind of DNA and RNA therapy has never been done on humans before.

00:03:39.000 There were no animal trials.

00:03:41.000 And in fact, previous animal trials of different versions of this ended in disaster, so they were stopped immediately.

00:03:48.000 In this case, there were no animal trials and there were no long-term safety information at all.

00:03:54.000 It was literally a two- or three-month trial and then out onto the public.

00:03:58.000 So I was very concerned that this...

00:04:03.000 Hadn't gone through the usual scrutiny.

00:04:06.000 And so when I started seeing all these reports of this, it raised concerns with me because there's a principle of medical ethics that if you're doing a clinical trial on some new treatment and In the course of that, you start seeing serious harm.

00:04:22.000 Ethically, you're supposed to stop the clinical trial.

00:04:25.000 You're supposed to stop it and investigate it and pause it and see what's going on.

00:04:30.000 You're not just supposed to barrel on regardless.

00:04:33.000 I then sent an email to a group of other healthcare providers in our area, and they were doctors, nurses and pharmacists.

00:04:42.000 Basically posing the question, this is causing harm.

00:04:46.000 Should we be pausing this just to take stock?

00:04:49.000 Within literally two or three days, I had a telephone meeting with the local health authorities to tell me that I was causing vaccine hesitancy and that they were going to be reporting this to my licensing body, which is the College of Physicians and Surgeons, and that I was forbidden from saying anything negative about these vaccines in our health facility.

00:05:12.000 Let me ask you one thing.

00:05:15.000 Did you actually have patients who say that Were you involved in vaccinating patients?

00:05:21.000 And part two, did any of those patients...

00:05:26.000 No, no.

00:05:27.000 So let me just say, I'm not an anti-vaxxer.

00:05:32.000 I give flu shots to people who need them.

00:05:34.000 And I give tetanus boosters to people who need them in my office.

00:05:39.000 So I'm not an anti-vaxxer.

00:05:42.000 This was an ethical concern, that this was an experimental treatment that was causing harm and on the basis of ethics.

00:05:50.000 But had you ever given a COVID vaccine at that point?

00:05:54.000 No, no, no.

00:05:55.000 I had been very clear that I wanted nothing to do with it for exactly that reason.

00:06:00.000 Within three months of the vaccine rollout, there was evidence of harm.

00:06:04.000 And so I said, I don't want anything to do with this.

00:06:07.000 I will stand by and watch, but don't involve me.

00:06:11.000 And were there people in your community who were reporting injuries?

00:06:17.000 Yeah, so at that point, I'd only been back at work Two days, after six weeks away.

00:06:22.000 And so then as the days went on, people started coming into my office with serious injuries.

00:06:29.000 You know, initially there were literally three that had disabilities from this, and this was now nine or ten weeks since their shot.

00:06:35.000 You know, some of them, for example, couldn't open a jar anymore because both hands were so weak.

00:06:42.000 There were some that had shortness of breath, where they could previously walk two miles.

00:06:47.000 Now they can only walk a quarter mile.

00:06:49.000 But most of them were neurological problems, loss of sensation, loss of strength.

00:06:54.000 And a major thing was chronic pain.

00:06:56.000 Many of them had chronic pain.

00:06:58.000 One of them with dizziness, where she couldn't drive a car anymore because she was dizzy all the time.

00:07:02.000 And this was now eight or nine or ten weeks since her shot.

00:07:07.000 So I then became concerned that this wasn't just...

00:07:13.000 Let me interrupt you, and I want you to complete that thought, but let me ask one detail.

00:07:20.000 For most of these people, did the injury occur immediately, or did it appear weeks after the shot?

00:07:31.000 No.

00:07:31.000 In every case, it was within 72 hours.

00:07:34.000 In most of them, it was within 24 hours.

00:07:37.000 In other words, the next day.

00:07:39.000 But in some of them, it took three days.

00:07:42.000 But I've now got 10.

00:07:44.000 Initially, when I started speaking out, there were three, and then there were six, and then there were...

00:07:50.000 Anyway, it's now 10.

00:07:52.000 That have ongoing neurological problems and or ongoing shortness of breath since their shot, which is now three and a half months ago.

00:08:02.000 I don't think we can call these 10 people coincidences because they all occurred within 72 hours.

00:08:09.000 Because somebody reported that these so-called vaccines are the greatest cause of coincidences known to medical science yet.

00:08:17.000 I don't think that these can possibly logically be all coincidences.

00:08:24.000 Right.

00:08:25.000 Because these were previously well people who had none of these symptoms before.

00:08:29.000 Was there an age group that you saw that was disproportionately injured?

00:08:35.000 No, there was, well, I think, yeah, it was mostly in the older population, mainly because they were the ones who were told they needed the vaccine the most.

00:08:44.000 But the youngest of these people is 38.

00:08:47.000 So this is the lady who can't drive anymore because she's dizzy all the time. 1.00

00:08:52.000 And she can't work anymore.

00:08:54.000 So she's 38.

00:08:55.000 She had no pre-existing medical problems.

00:08:59.000 She was completely healthy.

00:09:00.000 She just decided she wanted to get the shot. 0.98

00:09:04.000 So what was the reaction of the government and the medical community?

00:09:09.000 Yeah, well, so firstly, I sent a letter to...

00:09:12.000 So the other thing, when I got my gag order, I was told that if I had any questions about this, I wasn't allowed to address them to my colleagues.

00:09:19.000 They should be sent to the medical health officer responsible for our area.

00:09:25.000 So I sent her a letter as these people started appearing.

00:09:29.000 Minister of Propaganda.

00:09:33.000 So anyway, I sent her a letter saying, you know, are these the normal side effects for RNA therapy?

00:09:40.000 You know, and if so, what disease process has been initiated and how should I, as their family doctor, treat these people?

00:09:49.000 And of course, there's no answers because nobody knows.

00:09:52.000 This is an experiment.

00:09:54.000 And so, of course, she didn't reply.

00:09:56.000 So then I was seeing more people day by day.

00:09:59.000 And so then I sent a letter to our provincial health officer in charge of the whole province of British Columbia.

00:10:05.000 And because I'd been told that she doesn't respond to letters, a colleague said, just send it as an open letter.

00:10:10.000 Maybe somebody will listen.

00:10:12.000 And I was basically trying to advocate for my own patients.

00:10:15.000 I wasn't trying to cause trouble.

00:10:17.000 I was just saying, hang on a minute.

00:10:19.000 This experiment is going badly wrong.

00:10:21.000 I think we need to have a look at this.

00:10:24.000 I didn't expect a response, but I got one.

00:10:27.000 Not from her, but she referred the matter to a vaccine safety specialist.

00:10:31.000 And so I then had a telephone meeting with this person.

00:10:35.000 And so I set out all my questions and said, you know, what is this?

00:10:39.000 And this person insisted.

00:10:41.000 And at that point, there were only six that were vaccine injured with ongoing problems.

00:10:45.000 And this was now about three months after their shot.

00:10:49.000 And she insisted they were all coincidences.

00:10:51.000 Either coincidences or being caused by poor vaccination technique.

00:10:56.000 In other words, the shot was a bit too high up in the arm because there was one of the patients who had a weak hand and loss of feeling and swelling of the hand, sort of lymphatic edema.

00:11:05.000 And she said, no, no, obviously they gave the shot in the wrong spot.

00:11:09.000 But that was literally one.

00:11:11.000 And all the rest, these neurological problems were elsewhere in their body.

00:11:15.000 Apart from, you know, we're not just in the vaccinated limb.

00:11:19.000 And in many cases, the losses were symmetric.

00:11:22.000 You know, the people that, three people that can't open a jar anymore have weak hands on both sides.

00:11:29.000 So then I didn't realize that my open letter was going to go viral, but it did.

00:11:34.000 It's gone around the world.

00:11:36.000 One would think then that the local authorities would then come to speak to me about it, but nobody did.

00:11:43.000 All they did was deny to the media that there was any harm and say that basically all that I was claiming was just the opinions of one man and had no basis in truth.

00:11:54.000 I was just even more amazed that they basically said it was hard to investigate.

00:12:01.000 But meanwhile, they never went to the source of the information.

00:12:04.000 Nobody ever phoned me or my office to say, please, can you just tell us what's happening?

00:12:10.000 At no time did that ever happen.

00:12:12.000 It's just denial.

00:12:13.000 They're just trying to discredit me and deny it so that they can carry on with the experiment.

00:12:19.000 So that's been my experience with the authorities.

00:12:22.000 In your experience, have any of these patients been contacted?

00:12:28.000 First of all, do they report?

00:12:30.000 In our country, we have a vaccine adverse event reporting system.

00:12:34.000 So those at least would be reported, maybe.

00:12:38.000 And then the question is, and this is something that never happens in our country, which is after you make that report, you would think that the company, some representative Yes.

00:13:03.000 Well, so we also do have a vaccine injury reporting form, which is a nine-page document.

00:13:09.000 Now, I'm what's called a fee-for-service doctor.

00:13:12.000 I'm a private doctor.

00:13:13.000 I bill for each thing that I can do.

00:13:15.000 And mostly my billings go to the government because we have a sort of a national health care system.

00:13:20.000 But these nine page forms do not get, they take 20 to 30 minutes to fill out and there is no remuneration at all.

00:13:28.000 In other words, it's working for free.

00:13:30.000 I've now filled out, I don't know, I think 12 or 13.

00:13:34.000 So you get paid absolutely nothing for that.

00:13:37.000 And, you know, on top of all your other work, you just don't have time for it.

00:13:41.000 And I really think that is an incentive for doctors to not bother because they've got so much other work and they'd rather do the work that actually puts bread on the table.

00:13:50.000 And in my case, I had filled out these forms for the ones that I knew about at that time.

00:13:56.000 And because we're in the small, predominantly First Nations community, there was no public health office.

00:14:02.000 Normally, there's a public health office that you Send the forms to.

00:14:06.000 We don't have that.

00:14:07.000 So I sent the forms to the nurses who were doing the vaccine rollout in the hope that they had been told where they had to send these things.

00:14:16.000 Anyway, they all just mysteriously disappeared.

00:14:21.000 Because the authorities kept saying there was absolutely no evidence of any harm from these vaccines in Lytton, and that what I was saying was not true.

00:14:29.000 So in other words, if there's a medical experiment, you're supposed to be monitoring your subjects.

00:14:35.000 You're supposed to be literally week by week, they should be phoning these people to see if there are any problems.

00:14:41.000 And in every one of these cases, I'd ask the people...

00:14:45.000 Has anybody phoned you?

00:14:47.000 Has anyone contacted you?

00:14:48.000 Has anyone reported any of these things?

00:14:51.000 And there was one patient out of the 10 that have the ongoing things who said that, well, they'd had an anaphylactic reaction.

00:14:58.000 And so they said that had been recorded.

00:15:01.000 But beyond that, nobody knew that three months later she still couldn't drive a car or go to work.

00:15:08.000 There was no follow-up.

00:15:09.000 In other words, this is also a huge ethical issue.

00:15:13.000 If you're doing an experiment, you're supposed to monitor what it's doing to people, and it's just not happening.

00:15:18.000 And when I try to raise concerns about that, I am literally, it's just denied and discredited.

00:15:26.000 This is just quite simply unethical.

00:15:30.000 You're familiar with the Nuremberg Code.

00:15:34.000 Absolutely.

00:15:35.000 Exactly.

00:15:36.000 And I think, I mean, the Nuremberg Code, yeah, the Nuremberg Code is something that was established after World War II at the Nuremberg Trials, where there were government officials or military people who did terrible things to innocent people in the form of medical experiments.

00:15:55.000 Doctors.

00:15:57.000 They were doctors, exactly.

00:15:58.000 They were doctors, and they experimented on people.

00:16:01.000 I just want to interrupt you.

00:16:04.000 Doctors were so deeply involved in atrocities in Germany that they had a separate trial just for the doctors.

00:16:14.000 There was a trial for the government officials like Goering and Himmler and all of these officials who had orchestrated the Third Reich.

00:16:26.000 But they also had a separate trial for the doctors who had been directly involved in these barbaric experiments, horrible, horrible experiments on human beings.

00:16:38.000 And the Nuremberg Code came out of that. 0.55

00:16:41.000 Yes, and the Nuremberg Code effectively says that if you do an experiment on someone, you have to have their informed consent.

00:16:50.000 You're not allowed to experiment on people without telling them that they're being experimented on, and you're not allowed to experiment on people without informing them on the risks and benefits of whatever it is that you're trying out on them.

00:17:05.000 And then the third thing is you're not allowed to coerce them into doing this by some kind of Even mild coercion is very specific.

00:17:20.000 You can't threaten anybody with any denial of any right they have in order to compel them to participate in the experiment.

00:17:31.000 Correct.

00:17:32.000 Exactly.

00:17:33.000 And so my concern was that, firstly, the public has been coerced through fear to participate in an experiment that they don't, they're told is not an experiment.

00:17:45.000 They're told that all the usual, I don't know how it is in the US, but in Canada, the government information is Assures people that all of the normal safety protocols have been followed and that this is an approved vaccine, and it is not approved.

00:18:01.000 Neither the FDA nor Health Canada have approved these.

00:18:04.000 They've been given emergency authorization in view of the pandemic, and they are not approved or licensed.

00:18:11.000 This is an experimental treatment, which is all the more reason why they should be monitoring these people very closely and be very alert to any harms.

00:18:22.000 So firstly, there's no informed consent.

00:18:24.000 These people are being coerced by fear, and they're not monitoring the situation.

00:18:30.000 And those are my personal experiences of this.

00:18:34.000 What's been the impact on you and your life?

00:18:39.000 Well, so I was told that I was not allowed to speak about this in our department.

00:18:47.000 I have...

00:18:48.000 Who told you that?

00:18:50.000 Our local health authorities, when they gave me my gag, that was my gag order, that I was not allowed to say anything negative about this.

00:18:58.000 And I suppose even calling it an experiment could be construed as being negative about it.

00:19:03.000 But, I mean, let's be honest, it is...

00:19:07.000 About two weeks ago, I was informed that my clinical privileges, in other words, the authority that I have to work as an emergency room physician, have been revoked or been suspended, I should say.

00:19:20.000 I am accused of having breached my gag order.

00:19:25.000 And I'm still, so I'm now working with lawyers.

00:19:27.000 I've lost half of my income.

00:19:30.000 I'm still allowed to work in my private doctor's office because I haven't had my medical license withdrawn, but I'm not allowed to work in the emergency room.

00:19:39.000 And so I'm now going through a legal process of trying to figure out what actually they interpreted I mean, they're being very vague and very hedgy, and so this is an ongoing thing.

00:19:52.000 But I've basically lost half of my income.

00:19:55.000 This is also, of course, damaging to one's reputation because, you know, word goes through the community.

00:20:00.000 Dr.

00:20:01.000 Hoff's been fired by the health authorities.

00:20:03.000 You know, that has connotations of misconduct or of, I don't know, some kind of negligence.

00:20:09.000 But effectively...

00:20:11.000 Yeah, so that's an ongoing thing, and I can't give any details around it, but that's been the effect on me, is that I've lost half my income.

00:20:20.000 Let me just ask you one kind of last question, which is, during the 1976 swine flu epidemic in the United States, there was 140 million vaccines given out, administered, and there were 33 reported deaths.

00:20:38.000 And there was about 1,500 injuries, mainly Guillain-Barre, a neurological injury.

00:20:46.000 And because of those injuries, that vaccine was pulled.

00:20:50.000 These vaccines in the United States have been given to 220 million people.

00:20:56.000 And there are 4,000 deaths reported.

00:21:00.000 And there are about 180,000 injuries And about 18,000 hospitalizations, serious injuries of the kind that you are seeing in your patients.

00:21:13.000 And what do you think has changed?

00:21:16.000 Why did that, why did we, why did FDA and the health agencies pull a vaccine because they were so alarmed because it caused 33 deaths.

00:21:26.000 And here we have a vaccine that's caused 4,000 deaths, you know, that are reported under VAERS and VAERS. By the way, HHS's own study shows that VAERS captures fewer than 1% of vaccine injuries.

00:21:40.000 So the likelihood that there are many, many more deaths, you know, order of magnitudes more deaths, and order of magnitudes more injury is highly, highly likely, according to their own data, What do you think has changed?

00:21:55.000 I don't know.

00:21:56.000 I've sometimes quipped to friends that there are three senses that are lost with COVID-19.

00:22:03.000 The first is the sense of smell, and the second is the sense of taste, and the third is common sense, because this absolutely makes no sense at all.

00:22:14.000 I think to put it in perspective, I mean, initially when this pandemic broke, we didn't know how dangerous COVID was.

00:22:21.000 But we now know that for people under the age of 70, the risk of dying from COVID is less than the flu.

00:22:28.000 And for people over the age of 70, it's a bit more than the flu.

00:22:32.000 So in other words, it targets the elderly and those with serious medical conditions.

00:22:37.000 So if this was a new experimental flu shot, which is effectively...

00:22:42.000 You know, it's the equivalent risk.

00:22:44.000 If this was a new experimental flu shot, if there were 30 deaths, they would have stopped it.

00:22:51.000 But as you say, there are 4,000 now in the US, and probably close to 10,000 in Europe, and who knows how many elsewhere, and they just barrel on regardless.

00:23:03.000 From an ethical point of view, this makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

00:23:09.000 If this was Ebola virus or some absolutely lethal disease, then of course it's worth the risk of the vaccine because it's saving a lot of lives.

00:23:21.000 But this is not Ebola virus.

00:23:23.000 This has equivalent mortality to the flu.

00:23:26.000 So this makes absolutely no sense.

00:23:29.000 You know, there was a Lancet article that came out last week.

00:23:33.000 It looked at mortality rates from COVID per age group and that study found from all the data at the risk of people from four years old to 16 years old is the risk of death is about 1.6 deaths per million doses given.

00:23:55.000 And it's hard to believe that the vaccine itself is not going to cause more deaths than that because the vaccine, according to all the data, wreaks the worst havoc on younger people, people with more robust immune systems.

00:24:11.000 And, you know, we've seen such a wave of deaths among the elderly who were the first to receive it.

00:24:17.000 You know, it's really irrational that we may be and we are highly likely giving a vaccine to these children that is going to cause more deaths than the disease that it is purported to prevent.

00:24:29.000 Exactly.

00:24:30.000 And unfortunately, I think the driving factor is fear.

00:24:34.000 You know, people desperately want to feel safe.

00:24:37.000 And it just amazes me.

00:24:39.000 I hear people on the radio talking about the incredible relief that they felt when they finally managed to get their COVID shot.

00:24:47.000 You know, that they finally felt safe.

00:24:50.000 I mean, the media have driven an agenda of fear, which is driving people to not think clearly and to not really examine the risks.

00:24:59.000 And the fact that they would want to give this thing, which clearly causes harm, to children For whom COVID poses almost no risk.

00:25:09.000 I mean, as you've said, they have a higher chance of getting struck by lightning than they do of dying from COVID. Oh, but the lifetime risk is, that's true.

00:25:18.000 Yes, exactly.

00:25:19.000 And the other thing is, firstly, we don't know what the long-term consequences of this are for people.

00:25:27.000 And we do not know how long their protection will last.

00:25:30.000 We know it does not give them immunity, which is why vaccinated people still have to wear masks and still have to keep away from one another. 0.83

00:25:39.000 They're not immune.

00:25:40.000 And the reason why they're not immune from a medical point of view is that their antibodies are in their blood, not in their respiratory system.

00:25:49.000 The respiratory system is how you get COVID and how you spread it.

00:25:53.000 And in order for somebody to be immune, the antibodies would need to be there at the portal of entry and at the portal of transmission.

00:26:00.000 The antibodies measured by the researchers were in the people's blood, and that's why it only protects serious illness once the disease goes into the rest of your system.

00:26:10.000 So the idea that this is an immunity is nonsense.

00:26:14.000 They are not immune, which is why the whole idea of vaccine passports is absurd because vaccinated people aren't safe to others because they can still spread it.

00:26:25.000 And the idea that children need to have the vaccine in order to protect their parents or their grandparents or their teacher or somebody else is nonsense because the vaccine doesn't stop you spreading it.

00:26:36.000 And apart from that, children are not the main spreaders.

00:26:39.000 Well, not only that, but there's now data that have come out in the last two weeks that have shown that children don't spread it at all.

00:26:48.000 Apparently, this is a scientist who I actually have a podcast with, who's a top scientist at Yale, has talked about this week.

00:26:57.000 Is that when children get COVID, they tend to internalize it.

00:27:01.000 And it shows in mild headaches, it manifests in mild headaches, but not in respiratory illnesses.

00:27:08.000 And they're not spreading it.

00:27:09.000 There is, in fact, according to him, no evidence of any single case of transmission from a child to an adult.

00:27:17.000 There are many cases of adults spreading it to their children.

00:27:21.000 None of a child spreading it to an adult.

00:27:25.000 The justification, first of all, I believe that ethically you cannot force somebody to take a medical intervention to protect somebody else.

00:27:35.000 So that rationale should be DOA from step one.

00:27:41.000 Even if you could prove that a child taking this vaccine is going to protect his grandparents, you still can't do that to people.

00:27:48.000 That is an ethical precept that we agreed to long, long, long ago that you cannot treat One patient and put them at risk to save another.

00:28:00.000 You can't do that in a Western democracy and, you know, in an ethical culture.

00:28:06.000 But in this case, there's absolutely no justification because giving that child the vaccine is not going to protect their grandparents or their parents.

00:28:17.000 Correct.

00:28:17.000 Absolutely.

00:28:18.000 And not only that, even though they have a small degree of immunity, we have no idea how long that immunity will last.

00:28:27.000 Whereas the immunity that they have from a natural COVID infection Which is no risk to them, but there's some fascinating research that Dr.

00:28:37.000 Mike Yurden of Pfizer had made evident was that they had scientists last year tracked down people who had the first SARS virus infections.

00:28:49.000 Back in 2002, 2003, and survived it.

00:28:53.000 So the first SARS virus also came out of Wuhan in China in 2002 and 2003.

00:29:00.000 It was much more dangerous than this, but much less infectious.

00:29:03.000 And so through contact tracing and isolating people, they were able to stop it.

00:29:08.000 So these scientists last year tracked down people who had that infection and who are still around and asked them if they could get blood from them.

00:29:16.000 So they analyzed these people's blood to see if they were still immune to SARS. And they found that they were.

00:29:23.000 These people still had strong immunity 18 years later to that first SARS virus.

00:29:30.000 So then what they did was they checked to see whether that immunity covered COVID-19 as well.

00:29:36.000 And they found that it did.

00:29:37.000 People that had had the first SARS virus were immune to COVID. And the important thing with that is that those two viruses are 20% different.

00:29:47.000 They're 80% similar, 20% different.

00:29:50.000 So that was amazing because it showed that this immunity was so good that it could recognize a similar virus that was 20% different.

00:29:59.000 Now, all these other variants that we keep being told about are less than 1% difference.

00:30:05.000 In fact, according to Dr.

00:30:07.000 Yerden, the most different that any of them is to the parent COVID virus is 0.3% difference.

00:30:15.000 In other words, they're almost identical.

00:30:17.000 There's a very, very minor difference.

00:30:20.000 Cellular immunity or T-cell immunity can recognize a virus that was 20% different.

00:30:27.000 It is not going to have any difficulty recognizing any variant that is less than 1% different.

00:30:33.000 So the take-home message is this, that anyone who has had a natural COVID infection has good, robust, long-lasting immunity that will cover every variant.

00:30:44.000 And they absolutely do not need the vaccine because they are immune.

00:30:49.000 Let me ask you something about yourself, because you have a British accent, you're clearly from the UK, but you ended up in Canada somehow.

00:31:00.000 Correct?

00:31:01.000 Yes, yes.

00:31:01.000 I was actually born and raised in South Africa.

00:31:04.000 And South Africa has many different accents, just like the US does and Canada does.

00:31:09.000 So my ancestry is mostly European, English, Scottish, Irish, but mixed in with a bit of French, Huguenot, and Dutch in South Africa.

00:31:19.000 So I'm a complete mongrel.

00:31:20.000 After I left South Africa, I... Worked for a while in England and then moved to Canada.

00:31:27.000 So I've been in Canada for 30 years as a rural family doctor.

00:31:31.000 Dr.

00:31:31.000 Charles Hoff, thank you so much for that information, for your heroics.

00:31:37.000 And tell us, is there any way that our listeners can help you?

00:31:41.000 Do you have a legal defense fund or is there anything, is there any way that we can support you?

00:31:47.000 No, I don't think so.

00:31:51.000 I have had lots of Support in terms of people who have an ethical conscience and can see through the craziness of this have been very supportive to me.

00:32:03.000 It is only the authorities that have not.

00:32:06.000 So yeah, thank you for your kind thoughts and suggestions.

00:32:10.000 If I can think of anything, I'll let you know.

00:32:13.000 But as I say, I've taken a few hits, but I'm still in the battle.

00:32:20.000 So life goes on.

00:32:22.000 Thank you very much for joining us today.

RFK Jr. The Defender - May 28, 2021

Country Doctor on Medical Experiments with Dr. Charles Hoffe

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