RFK Jr. The Defender - Epstein and Bill Gates with Whitney Webb

00:00:00.000 Hi, everybody.

00:00:00.000 If you don't know who Whitney Webb is, or if you don't read her stuff, then you're missing probably the best investigative reporter in America today.

00:00:10.000 I really want to talk to you about the Passports, also about Bill Gates and Jeffrey Epstein.

00:00:16.000 I know you're doing a book about that right now, about their odd, strange fellows.

00:00:23.000 But I will say this, that I don't know how you do it, Whitney, how you do your research, but you are more dialed in than anybody that I know and understand the gravity of what's happening and who all the characters are.

00:00:40.000 And the role not only of the pharmaceutical industry, but the banks, the financial industry, the intelligence agencies, and others in, I guess, what people would now call the Great Reset in possession, this use, this leveraging that we're seeing.

00:00:59.000 Of the pandemic to impose these totalitarian controls and these huge cultural and value shifts and structural shifts in American democracy.

00:01:12.000 Whitney writes for her own website, which is called Unlimited Hangouts.

00:01:15.000 And she also writes often for The Defender.

00:01:19.000 Thank you for doing that.

00:01:21.000 And also for The Last American Vagabond.

00:01:23.000 But her stories are the kind of stories that I just wait, you know, to come out.

00:01:29.000 And I'm very excited when I see anything new that you've written.

00:01:33.000 Let's talk about Bill Gates and his friend Jeffrey Epstein.

00:01:38.000 And wait, was that really a friendship?

00:01:40.000 What was going on there?

00:01:43.000 Well, you know, it's hard to describe exactly the nature of the relationship in that sense, because a lot of the way the people around Epstein were, it's hard to really call them friends, because a lot of the way that network operates is through blackmail, even on people that are technically on their side.

00:02:00.000 So it's a very dog-eat-dog world, I guess you could say.

00:02:04.000 So friends may sort of be a loose term in the way that, you know, regular people understand it.

00:02:08.000 When you're talking about this type of ruling elite, they have a very different mentality and a very different approach to friendship maybe than the average person would.

00:02:17.000 But what's not particularly notable about the Bill Gates-Jeffrey Epstein relationship is that even now that it's being talked about in mainstream circles in connection with the Gates's divorce, the mainstream media continues to assert that they did not meet until 2011.

00:02:34.000 There is a mountain of evidence, in my opinion, that suggests that this is categorically false and that they actually knew each other back in the 1990s.

00:02:42.000 I first stumbled upon this in 2019 when I was doing an investigative series on the Epstein scandal.

00:02:48.000 There was a scrubbed article from January 22nd, 2001 that had originally been published in the Evening Standard, a well-respected UK newspaper, talking about Prince Andrew and his relationship with Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein.

00:03:04.000 And the part on Jeffrey Epstein and the reason it was scrubbed, it appears to have been scrubbed up during...

00:03:08.000 the period of his first arrest between 2006 and 2007, is because it mentions the fact that Jeffrey Epstein at some point before the publication of that article had openly claimed to have been working in collaboration with the Central Intelligence Agency, the CIA.

00:03:25.000 So of course the revelations that later came to light about Epstein, obviously the powers that be, the national security state didn't want to have any obvious ties hanging around there.

00:03:36.000 So that article ended up disappearing.

00:03:38.000 But what was also notable about that article and what stuck out to me is that, you know, since this was published in 2001, there's a line in there talking about Epstein saying that Epstein was a billionaire hedge fund manager, which was sort of the property developer, which was sort of the theme at the time and articles about Epstein. which was sort of the theme at the time and But it says that Epstein made his millions through his business links with three individuals, Leslie Wexner, Donald Trump and Bill Gates being the third,

00:04:06.000 being the third, which is pretty significant when you consider the closeness of someone like Donald Trump and Leslie Wexner to Jeffrey Epstein to have Bill Gates and a list of those alongside those two individuals suggest the ties were rather close.

00:04:20.000 At least one Epstein victim that I've spoken to personally, who was in the, you know, sort of embroiled in Epstein's Network from 1995 to 1996 said that she heard Epstein and Maxwell talk about Bill Gates like they knew him really well.

00:04:36.000 And of course, we know that Nathan Mervold, who was chief technology officer of Microsoft throughout the 1990s, one of Bill Gates' closest confidants who co-wrote his book, The Road Ahead in the late 90s, Very much involved in Microsoft's business and Bill Gates' life as well.

00:04:52.000 He was very close to Jeffrey Epstein during the 1990s.

00:04:55.000 He traveled with him actually to Russia as part of a Microsoft Russia conference.

00:05:00.000 There's photographs of Epstein being...

00:05:03.000 Part of that trip along with a journalist, sort of a digital media journalist named Esther Dyson.

00:05:09.000 Esther Dyson, Bill Gates, Nathan Mervold, and a lot of the Silicon Valley elite are part of something called the Edge Foundation, which is basically how Epstein was able to connect people.

00:05:18.000 So, intimately, with a lot of the individuals that would later become the Silicon Valley elite, this includes people like Jeff Bezos, Kim Ball, and Elon Musk, Bill Gates, Nathan Mirvold, and some other names as well.

00:05:32.000 Also, and responsible for how he ended up having dinners with people like Google co-founder Sergey Brin.

00:05:36.000 All of these people were connected to the Edge Foundation, which was founded by this literary agent who also has ties to the national security state named John Brockman.

00:05:45.000 From about 2001 to 2017, Epstein was pretty much the main donor to the Edge Foundation, and it was basically an influence operation for him.

00:05:55.000 It's interesting to see that a lot of these tech names that surround Epstein also have Edge in context.

00:06:01.000 But beyond that, Nathan Mirvold was also reported to when he created Intellectual Ventures after leaving Microsoft in 2000.

00:06:09.000 He would receive quote-unquote young women and quote-unquote Russian models from Jeffrey Epstein at the offices of this firm, which is quite unsettling when you consider the implications of that.

00:06:23.000 And what, you know, Russian models and all of this stuff would later come to mean when more information about the case came out.

00:06:29.000 So I think there is a really deliberate cover-up of, you know, these Gates-Epstein ties.

00:06:34.000 We also know for a fact that Melanie Walker, who was actually currently co-chair of the World Economic Forum's Futures Council, that's sort of gaming out a lot of this technocratic takeover, was actually, she was one of the advisors to the Gates Foundation, I believe, beginning in 2005.

00:06:51.000 And she got that job because prior to that, she was the science advisor for Jeffrey Epstein.

00:06:56.000 Basically, Melanie Walker, when she graduated from college, was recruited by Jeffrey Epstein, offered a modeling job at Victoria's Secret.

00:07:04.000 And then as soon as she graduated from medical school, I believe in 1998, she became his personal science advisor, guiding his science investments at a time that he began to move into this EDGE Foundation program.

00:07:16.000 Network.

00:07:17.000 Once she applied to basically fulfill the same position at the Gates Foundation, her resume was having been Jeffrey Epstein's science advisor.

00:07:24.000 So for Bill Gates and Melinda to hire her and not know who Jeffrey Epstein was at the time is honestly kind of ludicrous.

00:07:32.000 You know, why would you hire someone whose resume is being a science advisor for this person, but you don't know who that person is?

00:07:40.000 Obviously, they would have had to, you know, investigate if they didn't already know.

00:07:43.000 But the facts that I've mentioned earlier are also significant.

00:07:46.000 And aside from Epstein, before I forget, in the 1990s, it's definitely documented that Bill Gates had A cozy business relationship with Jelaine Maxwell's sister, Isabel Maxwell, who was intimately involved in intelligence operations as well, specifically involving tech ventures.

00:08:02.000 And that includes not just with Bill Gates, but also with Paul Allen.

00:08:05.000 But in the case of Bill Gates, Isabel's statements about Bill Gates in the year 2000 in an article in The Guardian are very odd.

00:08:13.000 Isabel Maxwell speaks with a British accent, but in speaking about Bill Gates to this Guardian journalist, she adopts a fake Southern Belle accent.

00:08:22.000 This is how The Guardian describes it, and starts purring as she talks about how Bill Gates Was looking to pay low taxes and had basically offered money to her, the company she was leading at the time, Comtouch, which was basically deeply tied to To Israeli intelligence networks that her father, Robert Maxwell, had been intimately involved in.

00:08:46.000 And it appears that the way for that money transfer to Comtouch from Bill Gates, the way for that to be tax-free, it wasn't through Microsoft.

00:08:55.000 It was very likely through one of the investment vehicles associated with the Gates Foundation that was set up around that same time.

00:09:02.000 So, you know, to be tied to the Maxwells, Nathan Mervold, and all of this stuff, there's a lot of indicators that the relationship predates 2011.

00:09:11.000 You know, I'm just investigating with open source material.

00:09:14.000 Obviously, mainstream media has a lot more resources than I do, and they have showed no interest.

00:09:20.000 And looking into ties that predate 2011.

00:09:23.000 So I think that's very telling.

00:09:25.000 Even with these new revelations that are coming out about the Bill Gates Jeffrey Epstein relationship, they do not want to look at the period before that.

00:09:34.000 And I think they really should.

00:09:36.000 And so hopefully this piece I have coming out in the next week or so.

00:09:40.000 We'll shed light on that, but it's definitely...

00:09:42.000 Oh, and before I forget too, Melanie Walker, the science advisor that went between Epstein and that went from Epstein to Gates is also the person that introduced Bill Gates to Boris Nikolic, who later was also his science advisor a few years later, I believe, and who was also named as Jeffrey Epstein's backup executor to his will after his death was announced in the fall of 2019.

00:10:06.000 So there's definitely indications that there were a lot of The cozy ties that have since been described by mainstream media from 2011 on definitely existed well before then.

00:10:18.000 And so the question is, why is mainstream media so reluctant to look into the actual origins of that relationship?

00:10:25.000 I think there is cause for concern there, for sure.

00:10:30.000 I watched the documentary on Jeffrey Epstein and the Young Women.

00:10:36.000 But there was nothing in there about Russian models.

00:10:40.000 But the way that you said it, it's something that you apparently think is well known.

00:10:44.000 What is that connection?

00:10:46.000 So Jeffrey Epstein was known to recruit a lot of women and also purchase underage girls from their parents from Eastern Europe, from former Soviet countries.

00:10:54.000 So a lot of the women that were seen around him and in his entourage during the 90s and also later on Generally were of Eastern European or Russian descent, and so were often described as being his Russian models, and some of them, of course, later came out were underage.

00:11:12.000 One of them at least would turn into a collaborator with the whole operation, and that particular woman, it's said on the record that she was purchased by Jeffrey Epstein from her parents, I believe in what was once Yugoslavia at the age of 15.

00:11:28.000 You mentioned a lot of the big Silicon Valley leadership.

00:11:31.000 You didn't mention Eric Schmidt.

00:11:33.000 Eric Schmidt is probably the figure whose ties to the intelligence community have been most abundantly documented.

00:11:45.000 Eric Schmidt, of course, was the CEO, I think, for Google during its early years and is now He's everywhere these days.

00:11:56.000 But will you talk about the involvement of the intelligence community, of the U.S. intelligence community with Silicon Valley?

00:12:04.000 Oh, yeah, absolutely.

00:12:06.000 So a lot of the big Silicon Valley companies today, really their origins have intimate ties to the intelligence community.

00:12:13.000 So some obvious examples a lot of people know for, well, some people know at least is the case of Palantir.

00:12:20.000 Which was set up by Peter Thiel in 2003, they say 2004, but their records show that it was actually 2003.

00:12:27.000 They were largely funded both by Thiel himself, fresh off of the sale of PayPal.

00:12:33.000 Alongside N-Q-Tel, the CIA's venture capital firm, and CIA was their only client for the first three years of their existence.

00:12:41.000 Another major Silicon Valley company, Oracle.

00:12:43.000 Larry Ellison's company began as a spinoff of a CIA project of the same name that Ellison was involved in, and then later became the company it is today.

00:12:54.000 Google also took N-Q-Tel funding, and there's a...

00:12:58.000 Explain what N-Q-Tel is, because some people may not know that.

00:13:02.000 Sure.

00:13:02.000 It's the CIA's venture capital arm that they use to make investments in technology they think will be of use to the intelligence community in the future.

00:13:10.000 When In-Q-Tel invests in a company, it's not just money with no strings attached.

00:13:14.000 The people from In-Q-Tel and from the CIA become involved in the company's product development and other things.

00:13:22.000 In-Q-Tel really had...

00:13:26.000 Almost dual pedigrees with many of the Silicon Valley firms.

00:13:31.000 When Silicon Valley first launched one of the go-to funders immediately, that's the same time that CIA launched Intutel, which was a venture capital firm that, generally speaking, interviewed, I think, 3,400 startups during the early days of Silicon Valley and We began putting money in, we don't know how many, but into potentially thousands of the initials of startups.

00:13:59.000 Yes.

00:14:00.000 And even beyond that, a lot of companies that were later acquired by big companies like Google, Microsoft, etc., themselves were started up with funding from In-Q-Tel.

00:14:10.000 So, you know, the In-Q-Tel funding has continued since then and There's a couple other companies as well that are worth noting, but I guess in the interest of time, I will point out that the national security state in Silicon Valley, that alliance that I argue was forged with the origin of a lot of these companies, is pretty obvious today.

00:14:32.000 You look at something like the National Security Commission on AI, on artificial intelligence, which is basically this commission that was created to basically chart the course for the U.S. government's policy with artificial intelligence and emerging tech.

00:14:47.000 It's chaired by Eric Schmidt.

00:14:48.000 The co-chair is a former deputy secretary of defense under Obama, who was personal friends with Eric Schmidt.

00:14:55.000 And their membership of that National Security Commission is almost entirely top executives at the biggest Silicon Valley companies.

00:15:02.000 You have one, the current head of In-Q-Tel, a former head of In-Q-Tel, people that used to lead the intelligence community's equivalent of DARPA, and various other intelligence operatives all coming together to decide basically the future of The U.S. government policy as it relates to automation and artificial intelligence, the fourth industrial revolution, whatever you want to call that development there.

00:15:27.000 So, you know, they're being quite open about their ties.

00:15:30.000 And also, you know, Silicon Valley companies today, a lot of them are open contractors to the U.S. government or national security state or the military.

00:15:39.000 You know, for example, the move towards cloud computing, we have Microsoft managing the Pentagon's cloud now.

00:15:45.000 Amazon is the webmaster for almost the entire intelligence community.

00:15:49.000 Pretty much every intelligence agencies and other agencies like the Department of Homeland Security use Palantir, which is basically, in my opinion, still a CIA front company in a lot of ways.

00:15:59.000 And actually, to go back to Palantir, I think it's really important to emphasize that the reason that company was created was because a A failed surveillance effort that was a 9-11 related surveillance effort that was called Total Information Awareness had basically been shut down due to public outrage because basically DARPA, which is...

00:16:21.000 That was Poindexter's baby, right?

00:16:24.000 Yes, yes.

00:16:25.000 So Poindexter, who was the highest ranking member of the Reagan administration to be arrested or convicted, really, of his role in Iran-Contra, was the person that was put in charge of this total information awareness office or information awareness office that was operating out of DARPA for a period of only a few months.

00:16:44.000 And actually, it got major pushback at the time from mainstream media and the ACLU and other organizations.

00:16:52.000 Because they rightly said that it would eliminate privacy for the individual American basically forever and would be used by the government to profile domestic dissidents.

00:17:01.000 And basically, after that program was shut down, it had several different components, but the main component was basically a program that would synthesize all of this information taken from all these different sources and analyze them and make them intelligible to people that work in the national security state.

00:17:22.000 It was mega data harvesting.

00:17:25.000 They'd look at every text everybody sent, every email, listen to every conversation, find keywords, archive it, categorize it, and make it so that it could be monetized and weaponized, essentially.

00:17:41.000 Yeah, and it was even beyond that as well.

00:17:43.000 It was also people's media consumption, their newspaper subscriptions.

00:17:47.000 You know, this is before the internet was the main source of people's information.

00:17:50.000 So magazine subscriptions, what books you buy, you know.

00:17:54.000 It was basically a pre-crime.

00:17:56.000 It was the first real effort at pre-crime, like in that movie Minority Report, I think.

00:18:02.000 Some of the people who were involved in it actually ended up making that movie.

00:18:08.000 That would not surprise me.

00:18:10.000 What's really interesting about Total Information Awareness as well is that it wasn't just about stopping terrorist attacks before they happened, which was the original pitch.

00:18:18.000 There was actually one aspect called biosurveillance that was about stopping bioterrorists before they could strike in the wake of the anthrax attacks.

00:18:26.000 But also tagged on to that was pandemics before they can happen.

00:18:30.000 And we've seen a lot of those policies be resurrected relatively recently.

00:18:34.000 But I don't want to get too far ahead of myself.

00:18:36.000 But basically, after that was shut down, around 2003, Palantir is created a few months later.

00:18:42.000 It came out later that Richard Pearl, one of the architects of the Iraq war, one of the neocons in the Bush administration and previously in the Reagan administration, was helping Thiel and Alex Karp, who is now the head of Palantir, set up this company to be a privatized total information awareness set up this company to be a privatized total information awareness

00:19:01.000 And they actually contacted Poindexter and invited him to Richard Pearl's house to meet with all of them to discuss how they could build this in a way that was private sector and not publicly associated with the military.

00:19:14.000 And what happened is that a lot of these different aspects of total information awareness were never actually shut down.

00:19:20.000 A couple of them stayed in different, were sent off to different intelligence agencies and At the time, other ones were just privatized, but basically the way they solved the issue was by taking the military out of the equation.

00:19:32.000 Right.

00:19:33.000 But also, I think the beginning of Facebook was really, was associated with the, I think Facebook began the day that Total Information Awareness Program was terminated.

00:19:48.000 Well, it's...

00:19:49.000 You're, that's, that's almost correct.

00:19:53.000 Yes.

00:19:53.000 So total information awareness was shut down a little before, but there was a related program that was operating in the same office within DARPA called LifeLog.

00:20:01.000 And LifeLog is essentially what Facebook became and was also criticized and was terminated before it began basically because of concerns about profiling domestic dissidents.

00:20:13.000 Among other things, and basically tracking an entire person's life.

00:20:16.000 But actually, one of the main purposes of it also was to gather all this data from a person's life from birth to grave, basically, and use that to create a more human, artificial intelligence and humanize.

00:20:28.000 AI and things like that.

00:20:30.000 But yes, the day that LifeLog was completely terminated is the day that Facebook was formally incorporated.

00:20:36.000 And then a few months later, you have Peter Thiel, who's trying to rebuild the total information awareness office, become the first outside investor in Facebook, which was essential to the company's survival.

00:20:48.000 It would not I've become what it is today without that initial investment from Peter Thiel.

00:20:52.000 And the person that got Thiel involved was a person, a man named Sean Parker, who was also very involved in the EDGE Foundation I was mentioning earlier, who, if you read profiles of him, the CIA tried to recruit him at the age of 16.

00:21:06.000 He doesn't say if he said no.

00:21:08.000 He leaves it very open-ended.

00:21:10.000 So it's definitely interesting, that connection there.

00:21:14.000 And of course, now we have Facebook openly collaborating with this Attempt to launch a war on domestic terror.

00:21:20.000 They basically have profiled people.

00:21:22.000 And the way a lot of this war on domestic terror is set to go is set to be very social media heavy, which is very unfortunate.

00:21:31.000 I mean, they basically posed, you know, sold social media to the public as a town square where you can interact with people and all of this, but it's really become much more powerful.

00:21:42.000 And, you know, with these separate purposes that, you know, are of obvious interest to the national security community, you know, are beginning to take over.

00:21:52.000 It's become an instrument.

00:21:54.000 I mean, the most powerful instrument ever of totalitarianism, which is, you know, total knowledge.

00:22:00.000 And I want to talk to you about, you know, vaccine IDs, because this is part of this trajectory.

00:22:05.000 It's all the same characters that You've been talking about who have been planning about it for years, but let me just ask you one little idiosyncratic question that I've always been curious.

00:22:16.000 How much do we know about the relationship between the intelligence communities and some of these DNA testing groups like 23andMe?

00:22:31.000 Well, 23andMe is, I believe, owned by Ann Wojcicki, right, who is married to the Google co-founder, Sergey Brin.

00:22:40.000 I don't know exactly how they share this data.

00:22:43.000 It appears to be in the hands of private individuals and private companies.

00:22:47.000 But I personally haven't investigated their ties, ties of companies like 23andMe specifically to the intelligence community.

00:22:53.000 But I do know that another similar service, Ancestry.com, which also offers these DNA tests, was recently bought by Blackstone Capital.

00:23:04.000 And Steve Schwartzman there is very involved with Eric Schmidt and a lot of these sort of intelligence-adjacent So it's definitely concerning.

00:23:12.000 But I think the cozy relationship and the fact that companies like Google and Microsoft and all of these, you know, double as contractors to the intelligence and military community, when they end up amassing a lot of this genomic data and DNA data, it's very likely they end up sharing it with the intelligence community because we do now You know, for example, from the Edward Snowden revelations, the second the national security state comes knocking on the doors of these corporations, they're more than happy to give away your data to the government.

00:23:41.000 So to think they wouldn't do that now is pretty naive.

00:23:44.000 A lot of COVID testing actually that's been going on in the United States has been going on through what I believe is a subsidiary of a Google subsidiary called Barely.

00:23:53.000 It's called Project Baseline.

00:23:54.000 And that's why a lot of people that have had to do COVID-19 tests in the U.S. have to sign up through their Google account.

00:24:00.000 You're essentially tying all your activity on the internet to Google now to your DNA, as far as the company is concerned by participating in...

00:24:08.000 In tests that tie the results of the test to your Gmail account or your Google account, for example, because of course Google harvests, or saves rather, every search you ever enter, every video on YouTube you watch, they read and scan your emails if you use Gmail, and they combine all of that with your DNA data.

00:24:27.000 And there's actually, I would argue, evidence that they're very interested in getting their hands on as much DNA data as possible right now.

00:24:34.000 One could argue it's because they're looking to develop a lot more healthcare-focused artificial intelligence algorithms.

00:24:40.000 But as one example, last September, Google teamed up with part of the Pentagon that's a relatively new part of the Pentagon called the Defense Intelligence Unit.

00:24:49.000 To basically develop a way to, they say, predictively diagnose disease through artificial intelligence.

00:24:57.000 And they're claiming to focus on cancer at first, but basically admit that they plan to apply this to COVID-19 at some point in the near future.

00:25:05.000 In my report on this, it became quite clear as I researched it that the reason Google really wanted this partnership was to be able to access all of the medical records and Thank you.

00:25:21.000 Thank you.

00:25:23.000 Data mining opportunity for this healthcare-related stuff.

00:25:27.000 And since a lot of these same Silicon Valley entities are very interested in this new push to basically replace the existing medical system with this, what they describe as a personalized medical system where you don't even have to go see a doctor and it's all based on a wearable technology and tailored to your DNA and gene therapies for cancer and all of this stuff, stuff, which is actually what the mRNA vaccines were mainly being pitched for use for before COVID-19 and things like that.

00:25:56.000 You know, it becomes pretty clear that they are very interested in this type of information.

00:26:02.000 But unfortunately, there hasn't been a lot of interest in mainstream media or people with more resources than people like myself and really looking into, you know, what exactly is going on with your DNA data.

00:26:14.000 And I honestly don't think they want people to know.

00:26:16.000 But unfortunately, in the United States and in a lot of other countries, people are like, well, I don't care if these companies have my data, but I don't think they really realize why these companies want it and what they plan to use it for.

00:26:28.000 Let's talk about ID2020 and, you know, what has essentially evolved or devolved into the proposals for vaccine passports.

00:26:40.000 Something that incidentally, when I wrote about this a year ago, I was announced as a conspiracy theorist.

00:26:48.000 Funny how that works.

00:26:51.000 Let's hear what's the scabby on that.

00:26:56.000 Well, basically, I reported in January that there was an effort that was backed largely by Silicon Valley companies and some electronic healthcare records companies to create basically the framework for all vaccine passports globally that was called the Vaccine Credential Initiative.

00:27:12.000 And basically the way they were setting this up was not only would this be a vaccine passport system, but it would also be tied at some point to your economic activity and to other things as well.

00:27:23.000 And even the developer of this framework, who works for Microsoft, said in his Zoom panel describing all of this stuff that someday you may need to show your vaccine passport to be able to rent a car, for example, and things like that.

00:27:39.000 You know, at the same time we're having this vaccine passport push, the same people that are heavily promoting that agenda are also promoting this sort of move towards mobile banking, digital banking, cashless society, things like this, this effort to have people use basically mobile-based digital wallets.

00:27:56.000 This is something heavily promoted, for example, by the National Security Commission on AI that we talked about earlier.

00:28:02.000 So for people that think that this is going to just be a single, the vaccine passports will just be for the COVID-19 vaccine.

00:28:10.000 That's not true either.

00:28:11.000 This framework also is for literally any vaccination that the state determines is required.

00:28:17.000 They're setting it up to be a much larger system than just a COVID-19 specific system.

00:28:24.000 And I forgot to mention this, sorry.

00:28:25.000 So it's not only is it vaccine status and economic activity, they're trying to tie it to biometric identity, which of course is the ultimate goal of the ID2020 Alliance, which has a lot of involvement, of course, from Bill Gates-funded entities, Silicon Valley companies, and the Rockefeller Foundation, which seems to co-invest rather frequently in these types of initiatives with the Gateses, so...

00:28:48.000 What is transhumanism and why do these guys...

00:28:53.000 What makes all of these people interested?

00:28:56.000 Well, they really are all interested in it.

00:28:59.000 I know it's really weird, but tell people what it is first.

00:29:04.000 It's a merger.

00:29:06.000 Let me try it.

00:29:07.000 It's a merger between flesh and blood human beings and essentially virtual human beings as well as AI machinery.

00:29:17.000 The analogy a lot of people like to use, at least from, you know, science fiction that may be accessible to a lot of people is the Borg from Star Trek.

00:29:24.000 I mean, that's basically transhumanism in a nutshell, at least for people that are cynical and critical of it.

00:29:30.000 Promoters of it say it'll usher in a new age of human augmentation and whatnot, but that doesn't really seem to be the case for the people that are openly advocating for it.

00:29:39.000 At least not for the masses of people.

00:29:42.000 Actually, people like Klaus Schwab of the World Economic Forum and people like that are really open about how they view transhumanism, but they avoid using that word.

00:29:50.000 They use things like biodigital convergence, a merging of our physical, biological and virtual identities.

00:29:59.000 And that's why a lot of, you know, this science that's sort of developed around it, funded largely by people like, you know, Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Gates people and related philanthropists and things like this have, you know, created CRISPR technology that can now install dual core machines inside living cells and stuff like this.

00:30:20.000 I mean, these are some recent developments.

00:30:22.000 I mean, why on earth would a normal person want to spend millions and millions of dollars funding something like that?

00:30:29.000 These people are very interested in this type of technology for a couple of reasons.

00:30:34.000 One, the elite, if you look at their investments, are very concerned about aging and basically their mortality.

00:30:40.000 That's why you have someone like Peter Thiel investing in these startups that provide young blood, the blood of young people to paying customers as a way to keep them young.

00:30:50.000 Things like this that sounds, you know, really crazy to most people, but to these guys, you know, it's, oh great, I can stay young forever and all of this stuff and a lot of people like, you know, like in the case of Jeffrey Epstein too, he wanted to basically come back as a transhumanoid.

00:31:07.000 He wanted to have his head, according to the New York Times, he wanted to have his head and genitalia frozen and then Put back together in some sort of formulated body so he could end up living forever.

00:31:18.000 There's people in the elite that have talked about how they want to have their minds uploaded to the cloud and all of this stuff.

00:31:24.000 It's really just, you know, the misuse of technology that is much more advanced than it has been at any other time in human history by a group of elites that, you know, for a very long time have sought immortality by various means.

00:31:38.000 In my opinion, these people, you know, this mentality goes back really thousands of years to this view, the view of nature as something that needs to be conquered and dominated and that not something to be worked with and live in harmony with.

00:31:53.000 You know, I think the logical conclusion of that type of mentality comes with viewing the merging of man and machine.

00:32:01.000 Something made by man is the pinnacle of human evolution, using technology to keep nature at bay and to bend nature to the will of these people and things like this.

00:32:11.000 I think that is essentially where these people are coming from.

00:32:15.000 It's sort of the logical conclusion of concentrating all of that wealth in the hands of a minority that thinks these things. 0.73

00:32:23.000 But as far as them wanting immortality for themselves, they're also pretty open about why they want transhumanism for the masses as well.

00:32:30.000 And a lot of this has to do, unsurprisingly, with control.

00:32:35.000 And there's actually a speaker-- well, he's an Israeli historian named Yuval Noah Harari.

00:32:41.000 He's one of the most popular speakers of the World Economic Forum.

00:32:45.000 He's very cozy with Mark Zuckerberg, Barack Obama, and various famous people.

00:32:50.000 He gave a very important speech at the 2020 Davos meeting, World Economic Forum meeting, which, of course, was just, you The COVID-19 crisis really took hold.

00:33:03.000 And basically what he says there is that as soon as people, citizens, are mandated or these technologies achieve mass use, begin using wearables, allow government to monitor what's going on in their body and in their brain is when we enter into an era of digital dictatorship.

00:33:24.000 And these are his words, and that people who decline to be part of that will become part of a new global useless class.

00:33:32.000 Again, his words, and he says it's better to be exploited than useless.

00:33:37.000 He basically, at the end of his speech, calls on the World Economic Forum to use these technologies to make a better world, they say.

00:33:44.000 But, you know, I mean, these are, you know, people like Eric Schmidt attend this stuff.

00:33:48.000 They're not exactly looking to create a better world in the sense that people like you and me would imagine.

00:33:54.000 So it's definitely very dystopian.

00:33:56.000 And basically the way in that same speech Harari describes the use of this technology is that the analogy he gives is, okay, so a person is listening to a speech from the leader of the state and they outwardly are clapping and they outwardly look happy.

00:34:13.000 But, you know, some sort of surveillance wearable or implantable device can tell that he isn't, this person is internally angry when looking at an image of the leader.

00:34:24.000 And according to Harari, you'll end up in the gulag the next morning.

00:34:27.000 Those are his words.

00:34:29.000 So, I mean, it really couldn't be more blatant.

00:34:32.000 I mean, this is the guy outlining, you know, this whole vision for this society in front of the Davos elite and basically being like, please make this world.

00:34:39.000 You know, it's very concerning.

00:34:42.000 And when you see, when you actually bother to read the words of people like Klaus Schwab and other influencers in the sphere, you It's definitely very concerning.

00:34:50.000 And the fact that so many elite that have so much power, especially the Silicon Valley elite, are so invested in these technologies and, of course, their ties to the intelligence community.

00:35:00.000 Really, the power structure in the U.S. at this point is really pushing for this, and they're doing it in various guises.

00:35:07.000 This push towards wearables is going to become huge.

00:35:10.000 Probably even the next couple months, if not the next year or so, under the Biden administration.

00:35:15.000 The top science advisor to Biden is actually under fire for his ties, surprise, surprise, to Jeffrey Epstein and Epstein's claim that he funded Eric Lander, Biden's top science advisor to...

00:35:28.000 Also, he was one of...

00:35:30.000 Charles Lieber, who was the Harvard...

00:35:35.000 I think he was a colleague of Landers, but he was another transhuman guy.

00:35:40.000 He was arrested right after the COVID-19 broke out for sending technology he was working on.

00:35:50.000 He was part of the mRNA group for sending that technology to China.

00:35:55.000 We don't really know why he was arrested.

00:35:58.000 Yeah, it is kind of a mystery as far as I'm aware.

00:36:01.000 But as far as Eric Lander goes, this guy is very deeply tied to Silicon Valley.

00:36:05.000 He's been the head of the Broad Institute for a very long time.

00:36:09.000 Now the chair of the board of the Broad Institute is Eric Schmidt.

00:36:12.000 And you have prominent people from Silicon Valley on the board today.

00:36:16.000 of the Broad Institute.

00:36:18.000 Eric Schmidt, in addition to being chair of the board, is also one of the biggest donors to the Broad Institute, recently giving them a $150 million endowment to examine how to basically merge biology with machines in order to discover the programs of life and stuff like this.

00:36:33.000 Basically a carefully worded way to develop transhumanist technology.

00:36:38.000 And this is the person that Biden basically elevated for the first time in U.S. political history to the level of a cabinet level position as the top science advisor.

00:36:47.000 And this recently pitched agency, the creation of this health DARPA or HARPA, Eric Lander is set to be very much in charge of that and intimately involved in that.

00:37:00.000 And, you know, they're claiming to be focused on cancer and fighting different diseases.

00:37:04.000 But I recently wrote, you know, if you read between the lines of this policy, it's definitely a recipe for a lot of the stuff we've been talking about today.

00:37:11.000 This technocratic pre-crime system that seeks to both criminalize mental illness, physical illness and wrong think.

00:37:19.000 However, you want to look at it by basically allowing the government and the private sector to surveil what's going on in your in your thoughts and in your body at any given time and basically surveilling you in ways that we have never been able to really fathom.

00:37:35.000 It's definitely a recipe for disaster on multiple levels, you know, because transhumanism is not just a threat to civil liberties and all of that. 1.00

00:37:44.000 It's really a threat to human existence and human society, what it means to be human.

00:37:48.000 And so it's definitely a threat on a huge level.

00:37:52.000 But really, as defined by the people charting these policies, including the Harari guy I mentioned earlier, the watershed moment of the era when these digital dictatorships begin is when the masses begin to use wearables that are harvested by these companies tied to the state or the state itself and all of this.

00:38:12.000 But I mean like an Apple Watch.

00:38:14.000 Yeah, or Fitbit.

00:38:16.000 Amazon has one out now called the Amazon Halo that not only checks your vital signs, it also checks your emotional state throughout the day based on how you sound and things like this.

00:38:27.000 So they definitely are not just looking to surveil your health like they're telling you or help you be fitter in all of this.

00:38:34.000 You know, they're definitely taking it much farther.

00:38:37.000 And there's actually talk now, there actually has been talk since 2018, of tying the use of wearables to health insurance policies.

00:38:44.000 And some health insurance providers are considering mandating that for particular policies.

00:38:49.000 So whether the public sector or the private sector tries to mandate this stuff, they're definitely moving forward with it.

00:38:56.000 And there's actually some startups that are being funded by the National Institutes of Health, the National Science Foundation that aim to use wearables to They say, solve the prison crisis in the U.S. by closing all prisons, but everyone becomes a prisoner in their own house, and they all have to wear all these different sensors to make sure they can't leave where they are, make sure they're not thinking about committing a crime, things like that.

00:39:19.000 And even also for the opioid crisis, there's a company that's taken several, I forget exactly how much money, NIH funds several hundred thousand, I believe, to develop a wearable where if you Have an opioid overdose, you're, you know, given this wearable, and it can tell if you have a craving or a relapse, and to see the, I mean, the U.S. government would obviously apply that to any other type of illicit substance.

00:39:43.000 It's worth keeping in mind, too, that, you know, the whole mentality here, and they've been saying this for years now, is that data is the new oil, and this is because they want to feed as much data as possible into these artificial intelligence algorithms, because they think that will make them Superior.

00:39:58.000 These people are obsessed with achieving super intelligent AI. They call the singularity.

00:40:03.000 So they want to harvest as much data as possible per citizen.

00:40:08.000 And this is pretty much admitted policy of the National Security Commission on AI that says the only way the US can be the top market leader and the top military power in the world and beat China and all of this stuff is to harvest more data per citizen as soon as possible.

00:40:25.000 And that's why we're seeing all of these pushes happen now.

00:40:29.000 You were writing from Chile for a while.

00:40:32.000 Yeah.

00:40:33.000 What happened down there?

00:40:34.000 They went crazy, right?

00:40:37.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:40:39.000 It's like a Pinochet redux almost.

00:40:43.000 Yeah, it's very similar and it's really no coincidence that the current government of Chile, the president, is actually the brother of Pinochet's finance minister.

00:40:51.000 And a lot of people in that government had past ties to the dictatorship and things like that.

00:40:57.000 But I actually lived in Chile for about seven years.

00:41:00.000 I only really recently left, and I reluctantly left as well.

00:41:04.000 And my daughter was born there.

00:41:05.000 My whole life was there.

00:41:07.000 But of course, with the onset of the whole COVID-19 crisis, basically overnight, pretty much everything just shut down and things became different.

00:41:16.000 Very rapidly, very totalitarian.

00:41:18.000 The situation now in Chile is that if quarantine is declared in the town or community where you live, you are only allowed out of your house twice a week for two hours a pop.

00:41:31.000 So that's a total of four hours per week.

00:41:34.000 And all of that you have to have papers that are provided by the police through a new police website.

00:41:39.000 So you basically cannot leave your home without police permission.

00:41:43.000 And it's a very limited amount of time because those two-hour permissions include travel time.

00:41:50.000 So if you don't live close to a supermarket or anything like that, you have even less time to do essential shopping.

00:41:56.000 They're required for entry to most major supermarkets.

00:41:59.000 Obviously, there's some mom-and-pop fruit and vegetable stands that don't necessarily...

00:42:03.000 I require them, but that's really only a reality in much smaller towns than a large city or things like that.

00:42:11.000 Luckily, I was living in a rural area that avoided some of it for some time, but child care services, things like that.

00:42:17.000 Became very difficult.

00:42:19.000 And then when quarantine was declared where I live, I lost complete access to childcare because with these twice-a-week permissions, there's really no way to go drop off your daughter or your child somewhere and pick them up in the same day because you'd use both of those weekly permissions in a single day just to have childcare.

00:42:36.000 So, you know, the only possibility would have been to drop my daughter off somewhere on a Monday and pick her up on a Friday.

00:42:42.000 And we're Who, you know, how is that going to work?

00:42:46.000 I mean, it's not really feasible for working mothers. 0.60

00:42:48.000 So it's definitely an unfortunate situation for sure.

00:42:52.000 There were cases of people being arrested for having incorrect papers.

00:42:56.000 This was being enforced by police a lot of the time.

00:43:00.000 And then where I was living in December, it became the military.

00:43:04.000 I'm enforcing this stuff.

00:43:05.000 And this is going on just between even small cities.

00:43:07.000 To go to a small town that was 20 minutes away from where I was living, I would have to pass through basically what was the military checkpoint, have the right papers, and all of this stuff in order to be allowed to go to the next city.

00:43:20.000 I mean, it's very extreme.

00:43:22.000 And basically this permission system functions in a lot of ways as what a vaccine passport is.

00:43:27.000 It's likely to do, but I think in the case in Chile, they showed that that type of totalitarian system can exist without a vaccine passport.

00:43:36.000 It can just be implemented in this way under the guise of the pandemic as well.

00:43:41.000 Definitely an unfortunate situation, but things are, I don't really see them getting much better, unfortunately, and in the specific region I was living in is where there's a majority of the indigenous community of Chile who are known as the Mapuches, and there is a long-standing issue between the Chilean government and them, and the Chilean government has its eyes on a lot of indigenous land, particularly in the mountains, with interest in mining that.

00:44:06.000 Chile is well known as a mining Centric economy, one of the world's largest copper producers.

00:44:12.000 Also lithium producers, a lot of those minerals have also been found in the south towards Patagonia, which is generally pristine, but a lot of that land is inaccessible to mining companies because of existing indigenous land laws.

00:44:25.000 So they're basically setting up and for the past year have been trying to declare martial laws specifically in that region as a way to basically framing Mapuches as terrorists and basically creating this setup for a war on domestic terror within that particular region. 0.85

00:44:41.000 The fact that I was living in that exact place made it, you know, the writing was sort of on the wall and I had to sort of figure out where to go at the last minute.

00:44:50.000 So it's an unfortunate situation, but I think Chile, like it was in the past when Pinochet was the dictator there, is often used as a sort of a test lab by the U.S. and some other Western powers.

00:45:03.000 You know, neoliberalism, for example, the neoliberal model It was developed in Chile by US-trained economists trained at the University of Chicago.

00:45:11.000 And, you know, other things have happened since then that have also been sort of experiments.

00:45:16.000 Chileans openly talk about this being reality, the fact that they're often used as a test lab for the West. 0.98

00:45:21.000 And I think what's going on there now is really no coincidence.

00:45:24.000 Whether that can succeed in a Western country really depends on the type of resistance people are willing to, you know, show in the face of that type of policy.

00:45:35.000 It's an unfortunate situation, but I think it's really important that people know what's going on there because it could really happen anywhere.

00:45:41.000 I mean, it's happening in places like Canada and in certain parts of Australia and things like that.

00:45:47.000 So they're definitely moving along with these types of policies and places where they think they can have them stick.

00:45:53.000 I was in Chile in 1973 during the Allende regime, and I went down to Allende for the Atlantic Monthly and ended up doing an article.

00:46:03.000 But I got caught up in a revolution while I was down there and got shot at trying to get out of Chile, trying to get over to Argentina.

00:46:11.000 I was chased by the army and had a lot of adventures.

00:46:14.000 But when we came back, I attended the hearings, the refugee hearings, My uncle was head of the Refugee Committee and had been pressuring Chile at that time.

00:46:26.000 I was told by the regime, by members of the regime, in the United States Capitol to not come back to Chile.

00:46:32.000 So I stayed out until 1993.

00:46:37.000 I went back to do a project working for the Mapuche Indians trying to preserve the Biobio River.

00:46:45.000 The greatest whitewater mecca probably in the world beside the Colorado River here in the United States.

00:46:51.000 Then we went after that and I was part of a group that helped to open up Food Life River which is down in Patagonia near Port-au-Mont and then I went there almost every year in March to do kayaking and rafting and whitewater but my kids were down there recently and I ended up in a very,

00:47:16.000 just serendipitously, ended up with a group of Mapoches near the town of Fudleifu, and they took them to an ayahuasca ceremony, and it was really at this incredible life-changing effect for particularly one of my sons. 0.95

00:47:35.000 It was interesting for me to hear the stories when I came back, but I love Chile.

00:47:40.000 I try to go there as much as possible, and Actually, the president of Chile, Bachelet, and my uncle Teddy was sick when he was dying.

00:47:50.000 She flew to Hyannisport to present him with a higher civilian medal for Chile for the work that he'd done in pressuring finish A to finally do the election.

00:48:02.000 That he lost and that brought President Elwynn in, who was the first president after Pinochet.

00:48:08.000 So anyway, I don't want to get this.

00:48:10.000 I could talk to you all a day about Chile.

00:48:13.000 Whitney Webb, that is a scary picture of a frightening world that you're painting.

00:48:19.000 And thank you for continuing to probe and continuing to inform us.

00:48:23.000 Whitney Webb's website is called, where you can visit her, is called Unlimitedhangout.com.

00:48:31.000 You can read Whitney Webb's investigative reporting on her own website, which is unlimitedhangout.com.

00:48:39.000 And you can also see her writings on The Defender and on The Last American Vagabond.

00:48:46.000 Please go to Amazon.com.

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00:49:01.000 It's actually about the union, really, between organized crime and intelligence agencies, the United States and Israel, that gave rise to Jeffrey Epstein, because he is just one piece in a much larger network, so...

00:49:15.000 All right.

00:49:16.000 Whitney, thank you for joining me.

00:49:17.000 Please keep up the good work.

00:49:19.000 Absolutely.

00:49:20.000 My pleasure.

RFK Jr. The Defender - May 22, 2021

Epstein and Bill Gates with Whitney Webb

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