RFK Jr. The Defender - Fired For Saving Lives with Dr Brad Meyer

Dr. Bradley R. Meyer is a board-certified family physician, 13 years in family practice, and 6 years as a U.S. Air Force physician. He s committed to treating patients and not serving the pharmaceutical industry. He was fired from his job recently for treating a COID patient with hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, instead of following the standing orders to ventilate. Dr. Meyer joins me as part of a series that we re doing with physicians all over the country who are casualties of this new devolution and in medical practice where the traditional role between doctors and patients, a very personal relationship, and that obligation to treat the patient as the doctor sees fit, is now being subverted and replaced. The role of doctors now has become as agents of state policy, which is eclipsing their obligation, not just to public health, but more importantly to the health of the particular patient that they re treating. Dr. Mears shares his story of how he was the only physician in his group to prescribe an off-label medication that got him into hot water with the organization he was working for, and how he managed to get back on track and keep his patients alive and well in spite of all the setbacks he s had in his short career. I hope you enjoy this episode and that it inspires you to keep fighting the fight for your patients. It s going to be a long, long, hard, and painful journey! Thank you for listening to this episode of the podcast, Dr. Kelly! - Your support is so appreciated, it really does mean a lot to us. - Thank you to Dr. Corey for being a friend of the pod and for helping us make it all a little bit easier for us to make it a bigger, bigger, better, and more of a better listening experience. - Dr. Brad Meyer, and we re going to keep on fighting for our patients out there. (c) Dr. Kayla, and I m looking forward to seeing you in the next episode, and we hope you re listening out for the next one - - ETC - P. S. - PODCASTING (PODCAST PRODUCING - BECAUSE WE ARE NOT LITERALLY GETTING A PRICING OUT OF THIS EPISODE? - CHECK OUT THE EPISODES AND PRODUCE OF THE PROODS OF THE PICTURE?

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, welcome to the podcast.

00:00:01.000 Today we have a special guest, Dr.

00:00:04.000 Bradley R. Meyer, who hails from Northwest Iowa.

00:00:07.000 He is a board-certified family physician, 13 years in family practice, six years as a U.S. Air Force physician.

00:00:14.000 He's committed to treating patients and not serving the pharmaceutical industry.

00:00:19.000 He was fired from his job recently for treating a COVID patient with hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin.

00:00:26.000 Instead of following the standing orders to ventilate.

00:00:32.000 And I asked Dr.

00:00:34.000 Meyer to join me as part of a series that we're doing with physicians all over the country who are examples, who are really casualties of this new devolution and In medical practice where the traditional role between doctors and patients, a very, very personal relationship and that obligation to treat the patient as the doctor sees fit, is now being subverted and replaced.

00:01:03.000 The role of doctors now has become as agents of state policy, which is eclipsing their obligation, not just to public health, but more importantly to the health of the particular patient that they're treating.

00:01:19.000 Dr.

00:01:19.000 Meyer, thank you so much for joining me and welcome to the podcast.

00:01:23.000 My pleasure.

00:01:23.000 Happy to be with you.

00:01:24.000 Tell us what happened to you.

00:01:26.000 Well, I've always been a physician that's believed in the art of medicine.

00:01:31.000 Of course, I follow the evidence, but I found early on over the course of this last year, especially with the COVID pandemic, that the physicians are being squeezed into a box and the art of medicine was fast fading.

00:01:45.000 Typically, with prescriptions that we will write, 20% of them can be off-label and there's no questions asked.

00:01:53.000 Off-label means it's a medication that is not typically used to treat a migraine, for instance, but could be used to treat something else.

00:02:02.000 Well, when I tried to use something that was not, quote-unquote, government or CDC approved, I got in trouble, quote-unquote, with the healthcare organization that I worked for.

00:02:14.000 They wanted me to strictly follow the CDC guidelines and the guidelines that were coming down to Avera Health Corporation.

00:02:22.000 And so Avera was your employer?

00:02:26.000 Right.

00:02:27.000 And is that an HMO or is it a hospital system in northwest Iowa?

00:02:34.000 It's a hospital system based out of Sioux Falls, South Dakota, and it has a sprinkling of clinics in Northwest Iowa, Southwest Minnesota.

00:02:42.000 Majority of the hospitals and the practices are in South Dakota.

00:02:47.000 Tell us specifically what happened.

00:02:49.000 Were you ordered to ventilate a patient?

00:02:51.000 Well, the understanding was initially out of the chute that the best thing to do for these patients when they Well, we didn't want them to get to the point where they needed ventilation in the ICU. So we have other options, and we knew that early on.

00:03:07.000 And, you know, one of those things being...

00:03:11.000 Hyperbaric therapy, which is increased atmospheric pressure, that was shown in an NYU study very early on, but no pharmaceutical companies put pressure on the magazines and these journals not to pick this astounding information up.

00:03:29.000 Literally, people were not going to the ICU. We're good to go.

00:03:42.000 The best thing was not necessarily to be the intubation, but hyperbaric treatment.

00:03:47.000 And so it's increased atmospheric pressure, which increases oxygen concentration to your entire body.

00:03:54.000 And from there, we found a lot of other therapeutic options available that were quite effective.

00:04:01.000 To start with the hydroxychloroquine, I followed the Zelenko protocol.

00:04:05.000 I believe he's out of New York.

00:04:07.000 I found some tremendous success early on with the treatment of that.

00:04:10.000 My patients, it was like turning a switch.

00:04:12.000 Flu-like symptoms felt like they'd been run over by a Mack truck.

00:04:16.000 And then all of a sudden, day two, early on, if I use the hydroxychloroquine, their symptoms largely were going away with, of course, some zinc vitamin D therapy as well.

00:04:26.000 I really didn't get too much pushback from the hospital and the organization for doing that.

00:04:30.000 Of course, I was the only physician in my about 11 physician group that was using the hydroxychloroquine.

00:04:37.000 Because I wanted to do everything I could to give my patients a chance not to be hospitalized where they're typically in a pretty bad state once it comes to going into the hospital.

00:04:47.000 So what happened?

00:04:48.000 What was the incident that got you in trouble?

00:04:53.000 Right.

00:04:54.000 So as the fall went on, I started to use ivermectin.

00:04:58.000 I saw the studies with the frontline doctors and I spoke directly with Dr.

00:05:02.000 Pierre Corey.

00:05:04.000 And he told me, hey, Brad, Dr.

00:05:06.000 Meyer, keep prescribing that ivermectin.

00:05:08.000 It's going to be borne out to be true, and you're going to continue to save patients.

00:05:12.000 Again, I was the only physician in the group that was doing that, and I was seeing tremendous effectiveness as well.

00:05:18.000 Trying to switch on two days after being on the ivermectin, the symptoms would largely resolve outpatient preventing patients.

00:05:25.000 In many cases, inpatient treatment.

00:05:27.000 And so I was told by the Averis system, they came into clinic in Northwest Iowa in Okoboji for an unannounced meeting and told me that I must stop prescribing the ivermectin.

00:05:40.000 As well, I was telling my patients that the ivermectin was an effective prevention or prophylaxis for COVID-19 in place of the jab or the COVID-19 vaccine, which is experimental.

00:05:54.000 I wanted to give my patients an option and a choice, so they told me, you can't prescribe the ivermectin and you can't talk to the patients about the vaccine because you might, quote unquote, confuse the community.

00:06:05.000 So from there, they said, are we going to be a fit?

00:06:10.000 You know, your practice style.

00:06:12.000 And for a time, a bit of time, I stopped prescribing, but the patients in the community were asking for the ivermectin.

00:06:20.000 And knowing what I knew from the studies around the world and frontline doctors, I knew that I took an oath not to the corporation.

00:06:29.000 I took an oath to take care of my patients and have their best interest at mind.

00:06:34.000 And I couldn't sleep at night if I didn't continue to or restart the ivermectin, which I did.

00:06:41.000 And one of my patients in the town of Okoboji, she's a realtor that's been there a long time, three to four weeks prior to her coming into the hospital with COVID this last spring, I told her that you're going to need ivermectin, but I'm not sure you're going to be able to get it.

00:06:58.000 I was not her primary doctor.

00:07:00.000 My colleague was, but serendipitously, she came into the hospital with COVID, and I happened to be taking care of her the day that my colleague was off.

00:07:12.000 And so, went upstairs into the hospital, and we talked about ivermectin, how she needed it, and how I had written for it in the hospital several times before, and the chief medical officer of the hospital literally canceled out my orders.

00:07:27.000 And said, no, we're not going to fulfill that order in the hospital.

00:07:31.000 Those patients ended up dying.

00:07:33.000 So I knew if I wrote the order again for the ivermectin, it was not going to go through.

00:07:40.000 And so I wanted to find a window.

00:07:43.000 One of the journey that has been COVID and God has been connecting a lot of people in my life.

00:07:49.000 It's been a beautiful thing out of a really taxing year.

00:07:52.000 one of my patients introduced me to Dr. Ted Fogarty out of North Dakota.

00:07:57.000 And he was the one that started to introduce me to some of the hyperbaric options for treatment, as well as antivirals, budathione, N-acetylcysteine.

00:08:08.000 And I called up Dr. Fogarty or Ted and I'm like, hey, where's the window here?

00:08:14.000 Because our gal is not doing well. 1.00

00:08:17.000 Her oxygen requirements are going up.

00:08:19.000 She's going to have to be probably in the ICU within a day here. 1.00

00:08:23.000 And he's like, IV anacetylcysteine.

00:08:27.000 We use it all the time for...

00:08:28.000 Contrast toxicity to protect the kidneys or for Tylenol overdoses.

00:08:34.000 So again, an off-label use that there had been studies that proved that N-acetylcysteine was effective for the treatment of COVID as well.

00:08:45.000 So I talked to my patient.

00:08:47.000 We said, hey, this is an off-label use.

00:08:49.000 Shall we go forward?

00:08:51.000 And we prayed that it made it through.

00:08:53.000 And the order didn't get canceled out.

00:08:56.000 That's never happened to me before this year where an order's canceled out, but went through and lo and behold her symptoms got better.

00:09:05.000 She didn't go to the ICU and she was discharged 48 hours after I started that treatment.

00:09:11.000 But the following day After she was sent home on a Sunday, I came into work and I was met with the administrative folks from Avera Health out of Sioux Falls and they informed me that I was fired without, quote unquote, without cause.

00:09:28.000 Of course, I knew the reason.

00:09:30.000 They had told me before, stop prescribing the ivermectin and stop talking about the COVID-19 injection with your patients and whether they should get it or not.

00:09:40.000 So...

00:09:41.000 What about the other doctors in your group?

00:09:44.000 Were you, according to them, these really good outcomes you were getting?

00:09:52.000 And what was their response to it?

00:09:55.000 Well, silence.

00:09:57.000 When I talked to Dr.

00:09:59.000 Pierre Corey, he forwarded me all of the meta-analysis from these multitude of studies that he was about ready to send off to the NIH. In January, he's like, all right, this is the evidence I have, and it's overwhelming.

00:10:14.000 And I think this was in December of 2020, and I was so excited.

00:10:20.000 I sent out an email to the CEO of the hospital, the chief medical officer in the hospital and all of my colleagues to say, we need to start treating patients early in the course of the infection.

00:10:32.000 So they, number one, they don't get hospitalized is the goal.

00:10:35.000 And two, if they are, let's use it in the hospital, the ivermectin, because the, again, the evidence is overwhelming.

00:10:42.000 The safety data is extremely, it's extremely safe.

00:10:46.000 I didn't get a response on the email, on the text that I sent with Dr. Corey's information.

00:10:52.000 I talked to them in person at one of our staff meetings, again, approached the subject to say, hey, let's think about treating early on with symptoms, especially for the high risk folks that have a lot of medical pathology going on and maybe over 70 plus.

00:11:08.000 We want to do all we can to prevent them from getting into a pickle here.

00:11:13.000 And again, it was not met with open arms.

00:11:17.000 They had already decided that they were getting their COVID-19 marching orders and directives from Avera, which was getting it from the CDC. And so there was not going to be any movement.

00:11:31.000 There was not going to be much differentiation for anybody in the management of our patients' care.

00:11:39.000 In your opinion, could there have been people's lives would have been saved if you had done the early treatment protocols?

00:11:49.000 Without a doubt.

00:11:52.000 My colleagues, none of them We did the early treatment protocols and statistically there's not much doubt that the people that we had die wouldn't have or a good majority of them.

00:12:06.000 I believe that Dr.

00:12:08.000 McCullough out of Texas talked about 85% of Hospitalizations could have been prevented with early treatment.

00:12:17.000 And he is a well thought of cardiologist that trained Texas A&M and Baylor.

00:12:24.000 Yeah.

00:12:24.000 And was there any doctors among your dozen colleagues who thought that maybe this was something worth trying?

00:12:34.000 A couple of them told me, Brad, I agree with you.

00:12:38.000 This is a bunch of malarkey. 0.66

00:12:41.000 Bunch of baloney.

00:12:42.000 The masking, there's no evidence to support it.

00:12:45.000 Your early treatment ideas, there's no reason why we shouldn't consider that.

00:12:50.000 But they also told me that if they went against the grain, that there was nowhere else for them to go.

00:12:57.000 So if they crossed the corporation or the employer, they were worried that they were going to get fired and then they're not going to be able to practice medicine anywhere else.

00:13:08.000 What is the company's motivation?

00:13:11.000 Because You would think that the company would be trying to save lives.

00:13:15.000 Is there money for them in having people get sicker?

00:13:19.000 Well, you know, yes.

00:13:22.000 There's reimbursement for patients that are intubated, that are ventilated with a traditional tube.

00:13:29.000 You know, I believe that they're paid to use the approved treatments like IV remdesivir.

00:13:35.000 In my estimation that, you know, if there is an inexpensive alternative like ivermectin, And all this IV remdesivir has been ordered and that there may not be payment from the government to the corporation if ivermectin is used.

00:13:53.000 But if IV remdesivir is used because that's on the approved list, then the reimbursement is going to go through.

00:14:02.000 What are your plans?

00:14:03.000 My plans?

00:14:05.000 Right now I'm on the last stop of the Arise USA tour and a lot of truth speak, tell my story.

00:14:12.000 I want to, I'm going to be opening a clinic in Okoboji with now my friend and colleague, Dr.

00:14:20.000 Ted Pogarty.

00:14:21.000 And we're going to do a clinic that is a common sense approach clinic where you're not required to wear masks.

00:14:29.000 You can choose to if you would like to, but you don't have to to enter our clinic.

00:14:33.000 We're going to implement functional medicine, some natural non-pharmacologic treatments, hyperbaric treatments.

00:14:42.000 We'll still do traditional medicine, I will, as a family physician.

00:14:45.000 I'm kind of in all of the above approach with regard to my treatments.

00:14:52.000 I believe that there's a big desire for the patients to go to a place just as much as there's a desire of physicians to work at a place where they're not being told what to do and how to practice.

00:15:06.000 Patients feel the same way now.

00:15:08.000 They don't want to come into the I want a healing environment.

00:15:19.000 And I do believe that powering up our mitochondria, we can make that one of our best pharmaceutical, our own pharmaceutical company that's got already innately put into our body.

00:15:31.000 So we can help ourselves heal by giving ourselves the right nutrients and the hyperbaric medicine.

00:15:39.000 Increased atmospheric pressure usage in a broad range of Treatments across the country, starting off in northwest of Iowa.

00:15:48.000 And how is, I know Ted Fogarty, but he's from Fargo, North Dakota.

00:15:52.000 Is he commuting to Okeechobee?

00:15:55.000 Well, he was there for 15 years.

00:15:58.000 He was the head of the UND, chair of the radiology department.

00:16:02.000 And his kids are done with high school now.

00:16:06.000 One's at Creighton, the other one's St.

00:16:08.000 Olaf in the Twin Cities.

00:16:10.000 So they're moving west to Ogallala, western Nebraska, but the plan is for us to be in both places.

00:16:19.000 And where we start this clinic, he and his wife, Carolyn, are committed to spending some time in northwest Iowa to get this thing running.

00:16:29.000 Well, thank you so much for joining me, Dr.

00:16:31.000 Bradley Meyer.

00:16:32.000 Thank you for your courage.

00:16:34.000 Thank you for putting patient health Ahead of your own career.

00:16:38.000 Ahead of corporate profit taking.

00:16:40.000 Thank you, Dr.

00:16:41.000 Bradley Meyer.

00:16:42.000 God bless you.

RFK Jr. The Defender - August 06, 2021

Fired For Saving Lives with Dr Brad Meyer

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