Dr. Mike Yeadon is a former vice president of Pfizer and was the company s chief scientist for allergy and respiratory research. He spent 32 years in the industry leading new medicine research development, and he retired from the pharmaceutical giant as the most senior research position in his field when he retired a couple of years ago. After his retirement, he founded his own biopharmaceuticals company, Ziarco, which he co-founded with his wife. In this episode, he talks about the coronavirus outbreak in the UK, and why he thinks gene-based vaccines should be the next big thing in medicine. He also talks about why he doesn t think the vaccine should be called a vaccine at all. And he gives us his thoughts on whether or not the vaccine is safe enough to be given to the public. This episode was produced by Vevolution and edited by Annie-Rose Strasser. Our theme song is Come Alone by Suneaters, courtesy of Epitaph Records, and our ad music is by Build Buildings by Haley Shaw. Additional music by Ian Dorsch, and his bandmates, The Good Fight, is available on SoundCloud here and here. Thank you for all your support and support, and we hope you enjoy this episode. We'll see you next week with our next episode on Dec. 19th, by The Badger Project, featuring the Electric Light Orchestra and The Good News Project, The Bad News Band, by Fountains of Brooklyn, and the Good News Orchestra, by The Good Relations Union, and the Bad News Company, by Scentless, Inc., by Lizzie, Outtro by Mr Squeeze, and Sober & The Good Music by Fizz, Jr., and Soapbox Records, Inc. by Mr Craye, Jr. -- by Eddy, and The White House, and , and & , and by Ms Condon, & Sober, & is , & & Other Things, etc., (featuring the White House Music is by , by Sober And So Much More? , etc., & ) - . -- Thank You, My Thoughts? -- And This Is My Name is And This Will Help You Say This Is Better than That, And This Can Help You Hear It?
00:00:18.000Mike Yeadon is a former vice president of Pfizer.
00:00:24.000He was the company's chief scientist for allergy and respiratory.
00:00:30.000He spent 32 years in the industry leading new medicine research development, and he retired from the pharmaceutical giant, and, quote, the most senior research position, end quote, in his field.
00:01:33.000I've visited the States maybe probably between 30 and 40 times on business and so I'm hoping to come and join you in In the not-too-distant future, because I'm not confident that the UK and Europe is going to be a safe place.
00:01:47.000I mean, continue to protest, actually.
00:01:50.000And just today, I'm proud to say that as an alien investor, I've officially today confirmed that I am in one of these EB-5 investment schemes.
00:02:01.000So it may take time, but eventually Apparently the deal is I might help create and preserve U.S. jobs, and in return they say you can come live here.
00:02:16.000It's a first word by people from Great Britain because we have palm trees here, beaches, dolphins, and all the things we're dreaming about.
00:02:26.000It actually is a happening in California.
00:02:39.000So I think first I should say to those who don't know me, I've had no public profile prior to commenting on coronavirus ever about anything.
00:02:48.000I've not been on a barricade or Handed out political leaflets.
00:02:53.000Not the sort of person who's kind of noisy personally.
00:02:57.000What I noticed from, I guess, the first lockdown, probably by the summer of last year, I was clear we'd made some serious policy mistakes, and I'm afraid they just continued.
00:03:10.000When we got to the vaccine rollout, I was surprised because I know enough about mRNA technology as a lag tool for the last 20 or 30 years.
00:03:21.000And I knew, certainly when I left 5 or 10 years ago, that we're miles away from A product you can give to everybody.
00:03:28.000And so I was intrigued as to what it is they've done to have fixed the difficulties which are safe delivery, really.
00:03:35.000Safe delivery of a message into a cell that will allow it to then copy that message and do something useful without in any way being harmful and don't really understand how they've succeeded because those were always the problems in the lab.
00:03:50.000How do you get it into cells without hurting them to do what you want?
00:03:54.000And of course, I'm not sure they have succeeded, Robert.
00:03:58.000The problem is these vaccines are of a completely novel technology.
00:04:02.000I don't think they should be called vaccines.
00:04:05.000I would say gene-based vaccines would probably be the honourable thing to do because they do raise an immune response, but they do as unusually.
00:04:14.000As you will gather from my concerns about messenger RNA technology, I anticipated that it wouldn't be quite safe enough.
00:04:23.000And I'm afraid to say that I think potentially as many as one in a thousand, perhaps a little less, of people have actually perished, which sounds appalling, but we've certainly dosed 35 million people in the UK here, and I do think a significant proportion of the January 2021 wave, as they called it, and I'm afraid I think quite a portion of those were Fatality.
00:04:50.000I'm a member of a group called Doctors for COVID Ethics, and we're mainly Europeans.
00:04:57.000And we've written to the European Medicines Agency, I think, three times.
00:05:02.000And we've told them that we believe that these gene-based vaccines cause the expression of something called spike protein, the little spike you see on the cartoon pictures of coronavirus.
00:05:13.000And it causes that protein to be expressed wherever it is that the vaccine lands after you've been jammed in the arm.
00:05:19.000And our concern is that the manufacturers were not asked to study where the vaccine went, because you don't do that with classical vaccines.
00:05:27.000You do with any novel medicine, but you're not required to do it.
00:05:30.000And we think some poor unfortunate people Get the vaccine deposited in vulnerable vascular beds, perhaps in the brain and the heart and the mesenteric supply to the gut.
00:05:41.000And then when they express the message for spike protein, if they have to make more of it in one person than another, and then add to that perhaps a vulnerability for thromboembolic events, and lo and behold, I think that's the explanation.
00:05:55.000For why many people are fine, and some people get serious clotting and bleeding disorders and die.
00:06:01.000And we've written to the European Medicines Agency and regulators several times, and they have simply dealt with a substantive issue, as I've just laid out.
00:06:12.000There's plenty of scientific literature that shows that spike proteins do have biological activities.
00:06:24.000And I think those mostly explain, Robert, why...
00:06:28.000I think that's the underlying pathomechanism, pathological mechanism for these side effects that we're seeing.
00:06:36.000I think they're so severe in a minority of people that we should absolutely not be offering them to young, healthy people who are not at risk from the virus.
00:07:36.000You really want them to be exposed to bits of your immune system so that you educate the immune system to protect you if it should encounter that protein again.
00:07:46.000You don't really want it in your brain, and there are many other tissues, vessel walls, you don't want it there and so on.
00:07:52.000So I can't answer your question, and I wish I could, but the fact that I can't is a measure of, shall we say, how much latitude a developer gets if their medicine is classified as a vaccine.
00:08:04.000They get a whole load of, shall we say, waivers.
00:08:08.000If this was not classified as a vaccine, the manufacturer would need to study what we call pharmacokinetics, Where the drug goes, how it disappears.
00:08:17.000We also need to study pharmacodynamics, which is what does it actually do?
00:08:24.000Because it's a vaccine, not required to study any of those things.
00:08:28.000I think that's exposed, for me, a gap in the regulation of medicines that sit in the netherworld, should we say, between vaccines and new drugs.
00:08:40.000I hope you would agree and would help join with me in the future and Making sure that those gaps are not exploited again.
00:08:48.000I mean, when you look at the manufacturers in MH, people who are promoting MRNA, for example, the CEO of Moderna Classic, he said, what we do is we hack the brain of the cell and we have the cell to begin creating these spike protein materials.
00:09:13.000But The mechanism that they use to hack the cells, is that also a femoral?
00:09:19.000Is it possible that you could hack the cell in a way that continues to produce like protein?
00:09:44.000The intermediate step is this message, and that's what the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is.
00:09:50.000And so it should only go one way, but we're putting it into a cell and then asking for that cell to copy the hell out of that message until the message itself is destroyed.
00:10:03.000I don't think, not by design, it should not incorporate into the DNA. So it shouldn't be permanent.
00:10:11.000But depending on how it's designed, you could have pieces that are promoted, something that will amplify the number of times that that mRNA is copied.
00:10:22.000So I do think it's possible to modify the intensity of the resulting signal.
00:10:28.000I know they can be stabilized somewhat in that the actual molecules used to make up this mRNA, they're modified nucleic acids so they're a little bit more stable.
00:10:40.000But I think that's what I would call it.
00:10:42.000You do the experiments and see what you get.
00:10:44.000Then we can design a very prolonged message.
00:10:48.000Although I understand and I'm excited too about the potential for mRNA technology to treat hard-to-treat diseases that are life-threatening.
00:10:59.000So if you had a cancer, And we didn't really know how to intervene, but we knew experimentally, perhaps, in vitro, taking a tissue of my own tumour perhaps, and we'd shown if you could knock down these three genes, the cancer will die.
00:11:15.000And then if you could manufacture that swiftly with messenger RNA technology and inject it, you'd think, wow, that could cut 10 years out of customised, you know, whatever medicines.
00:11:27.000But I just don't think they're ever going to be safe enough to give to healthy, normal people.
00:11:33.000I've not been a vaccinologist, so I've had to read up a lot in the last year.
00:11:37.000But just to remind any of my peers who might be watching, we give vaccines to people who are healthy in order to keep them healthy, and they would remain healthy if they were not injected.
00:11:48.000And so there's an extremely high standard of proof of safety in my view.
00:11:57.000Because unlike other medicines, you generally give to people who are either ill already or they have some process like blood pressure or blood sugar or blood lipids that's out of whack and you want to We turn it to normal to keep them healthy or to treat them.
00:12:11.000With vaccines, the person arrives at your office healthy and you want them to leave healthy and to be able to defend themselves against the pathogen.
00:12:21.000It's unethical to risk anything other than a minuscule chance of harm, in my view.
00:12:27.000And I don't think these mRNA or DNA vaccines, I don't think they come close to meeting that standard.
00:12:34.000Even if this is an emergency, Not everybody would agree with me that we should offer them to people who have got a strong risk of dying if they contract this virus.
00:12:46.000Then be very honest and tell them these are experimental, novel technology products.
00:12:50.000Probably not as safe as an ordinary vaccine, but here's what we know.
00:12:54.000And then let the person make an informed consent decision.
00:13:06.000And I've outlined a plausible mechanism for the pathology we're seeing, blood clots and bleeding.
00:13:14.000Of course, you get attacked for doing that.
00:13:16.000But where I put my foot down, I have two healthy adult girls, 25, 29 years old, and I would be really upset if they ended up being coerced into taking these products because they're healthy and young and they're not at any measurable risk from COVID-19.
00:13:36.000And I think they would be at a small but measurable risk from these Vaccines, and as you may remember, the Europeans first discovered a problem, at least with the AstraZeneca vaccine, when healthy young women aged between 20 and 50 were presenting with life-threatening cerebral vein sinus thrombosis, so blood clot in the brain.
00:13:58.000And they, in my view, it doesn't so much happen there more often than other people, or happen in that group of people more often.
00:14:05.000It's just my father who has a physician used to say, some women don't die.
00:14:11.000It was almost a joke that it's extremely unlikely if you reach this age, unless you die in childbirth or Go under a bus.
00:14:20.000You pretty much don't die of diseases.
00:14:23.000And so when somebody, when I think they had seven, a cluster of seven, and then there was another cluster of more than 10 in different towns that had the same brain blood clot, they realized they couldn't look the other way.
00:14:34.000I think some people had been doing that.
00:14:36.000And I think they realized this is such an unusual and serious problem.
00:14:41.000People who don't normally suffer it must be the vaccine.
00:14:44.000And I think that's when you saw a few weeks ago Country by country, they paused Rollout to evaluate it.
00:14:52.000And I think at that point, they could probably have just about saved their ethics by outlining more or less as I've done, which is that they've been produced very quickly, and that's a miracle.
00:15:04.000But they do have some built-in design consequences.
00:15:09.000I think a consequence of having chosen spike protein As the, what's called the immunogen, think your body's to make in order to educate the immune system.
00:15:19.000Having made that design choice, I think it's not unreasonable to expect a class effect risk now with all gene-based vaccines for COVID so far that we've seen under emergency approval because they all cause the body to produce spike protein or part of spike protein.
00:15:39.000So that's what I would tell people that my general...
00:15:43.000Please, do not get vaccinated for non-medical reasons.
00:15:48.000You know, when I hear people say, oh, if I get vaccinated, maybe I can go on holiday or rejoin my normal life.
00:16:41.000Epidemic spreading, which they don't, and I can explain why that is.
00:16:45.000And here, one of the worst things, which I hope we'll get to, and push me back if it's not the right time, one of the things that frightens me most is another thing that's close to the truth but is not right.
00:16:56.000Close to the truth, when viruses replicate, they make typographical errors, a typo.
00:17:02.000And sometimes those typos produce a viable virus.
00:17:06.000We call those variants if they survive and are seen in enough people to kind of get sequenced.
00:17:13.000But it's not true that the variants we've seen so far are immunologically different enough from the original Wuhan virus that you need another vaccine.
00:17:24.000But I'm told every day by politicians and advisers to the government that they will have variant or top-up vaccines ready for us.
00:17:35.000I'm telling you, one of my strongest suits is immunology.
00:17:41.000I think that's probably the most important topic, and I want to address it, because I feel they're really corralling us into issues.
00:17:51.000With those arguments, and when you break down those arguments, it's clear that there are lies.
00:17:58.000Let me talk to you just for a moment about this.
00:18:02.000Apparent disproportionate injury to children and young people from the vaccine, which gives them an entire different calculus when they're trying to decide whether to take a vaccine or not.
00:18:18.000And during the Phase 1 trials of the Moderna vaccine, there was a horrendous injury rate.
00:18:25.000100% of the people experienced injury to the second vaccine, and in the high dose group, 21% had a stage 4 injury, which means Medical intervention or hospitalization required, and 6% of the people in the low dose group.
00:18:43.000And so when I was looking at the phase 2 studies, I didn't see those kind of entry rates.
00:18:50.000And I called Peter Doshi, who's made a comprehensive study of this from the British Medical Journal, Dr.
00:18:57.000Peter Doshi, who's the associate editor of the BMJ. And I said, you know, why are we saying this?
00:19:02.000And he said, you know, he hadn't really studied it.
00:19:06.000But the possible answer is that in the Phase II trials, the people who were experiencing the worst injuries tended to be younger, more robust people.
00:19:22.000And he said because those were the only cohort that they allowed in the Phase I trial of very, very young, robust people, It may be that they had a much higher injury, right?
00:19:35.000I don't know if you think that's true or not.
00:19:37.000And really, for Peter Doshi, it was speculative.
00:19:40.000But he said something important, which is if you're young and healthy, your risk from this vaccine is much, much higher.
00:19:48.000And your risk from the disease, conversely, is much, much lower.
00:19:53.000Your calculation to take that is a completely different calculation.
00:20:11.000I've never been more ashamed than I felt in recent months.
00:20:16.000I almost feel like I've been duped because I honestly don't think in my decades of working with people in research, I came across people who are not Good-hearted people trying to do good quality science to try and make new products that would help people, and they needed to help them by improving on existing therapies, so to be better than an existing therapy, or they needed to be safer than an existing choice, ideally both.
00:20:44.000So now seeing these products coming out of an industry, and maybe it won't be the researchers, but someone is misrepresenting the situation where At very least, as you described, Robert, there's two moving curves.
00:21:00.000One is, as you get older and already more sick, you're at greater risk of illness and fatality from the virus.
00:21:10.000If it should also be the case, as Peter Doshi's analysis may suggest, that younger people are maybe even getting a worse safety outcome, then the crossover, that is the age below which you would not want to offer these vaccines to people who are not ill, not at great risk from the virus, would be quite high.
00:21:43.000I don't take any chronic medicines for things like diabetes or whatever.
00:21:47.000So when I look at statistics, there aren't very many people like me that have died with COVID, Casper.
00:21:53.000It's less than 1,000 out of 750,000 total deaths.
00:21:58.000We made it 125,000 attributed to COVID. So over the last two seasons, less than 1,000.
00:22:04.000People who are under 60 and not already chronically ill.
00:22:08.000I just simply would not offer to that group these vaccines at all, because I think the data shows they do carry significantly greater risk than ordinary vaccines.
00:22:21.000They are experimental anyway, so we don't really know the full pattern that the phase two trials don't complete until 2022 or even later.
00:22:30.000Basically, there's not enough upside in it for younger people.
00:22:33.000And then, to your point of children, I'm horrified by two things.
00:22:37.000One is, I've seen leaflets from groups that are providing guidance to physicians and counselors, to their patients, and they're guiding healthy pregnant young women to receive the vaccine using things like There's no evidence of harm to pregnant women or no evidence of harm to the developing baby.
00:23:27.000And so I would not want, and I would never have done this myself, have persuaded anybody to take an experimental medicine where reproductive toxicology is not being done, And the person is pregnant or may be pregnant.
00:23:44.000We would exclude women of childbearing potential, or if they were allowed in the trial, we would cancel and say, we haven't done the talks yet.
00:23:54.000If you want to be in the study, you would have to use a warrant that you are going to use and understand why you should use highly effective interconception.
00:24:02.000Because we knew that we wouldn't want to allow the intercept of this new drug and developing Embryo or fetus.
00:24:10.000And so how can it be that without doing formal studies in pregnant women, that the authorities say not only that it's okay, but it's advised that pregnant women get vaccinated?
00:24:47.000The reason I say that is if you're trying to rule out a risk of something like one in a thousand people getting a serious adverse event, how can you possibly warrant to people that there isn't one when you've studied 300 people?
00:25:13.000What they're saying is we're doing a safety study in children.
00:25:18.000We think things will be fine when we've got the data, then we'll make the vaccines available to school children.
00:25:23.000And in the UK, they're talking about autumn.
00:25:26.000This year, they're not at risk from the damn virus.
00:25:30.000Sorry to get, you know, I get agitated.
00:25:33.000Not a single child, I think, under the age of 15 in the UK who did not have serious pre-existing illnesses has died even with COVID. Not of it, but with it.
00:25:53.000You mentioned before that the risk of an adverse event may be linked to the part of your body where you actually get the jab.
00:26:02.000I think that the prevalent notion among scientists who have really been thinking a lot about this is that the biggest risk is from pathogenic priming.
00:26:13.000In other words, People get the antigen in the vaccine, which is just like protein.
00:26:20.000And because they may have been previously exposed to coronavirus, they have an enhanced immune reaction and a close inflammation throughout their body.
00:26:32.000And this is what we saw in animal studies where all the animals died.
00:26:36.000And that's something that's a risk that everybody's known about and warned about.
00:26:43.000I just don't think it's invaluable, shall we say, at this point.
00:26:47.000What I would say is, yes, it's a risk.
00:26:50.000Yes, it definitely happened before with experimental products like this, as you say, where I think it was ferrets were vaccinated and they were fine.
00:26:59.000But if they compare vaccinated ferrets with unvaccinated ferrets and both were exposed, I think it was to a different virus, not this one, that only the vaccinated ones became seriously and then died.
00:27:11.000As you say, pathogenic priming, antibody-dependent enhancement.
00:27:17.000Now, the exact mechanism is not understood, but it does involve having previously generated some, perhaps what's called a non-steralizing immunity.
00:27:28.000It's not a great phrase, but basically insufficient immunity to prevent you being infected at all.
00:27:35.000And then, for some reason, this inadequate protection opens you to a greater onslaught.
00:28:56.000We're being told now that there's going to be these mutant variants that are periodically appear, but thank God we have this mRNA technology that will allow us to vaccinate immediately, formulate a vaccine to each mutant, and then to give that vaccine to the entire population.
00:29:18.000Then we're going to have a passport That makes sure that you are, as you would call it, topped up.
00:29:27.000As soon as there's an alert or a new variant coming out, everybody has four months to get their boosters, and without it, you can't travel.
00:29:37.000And in this way, we become absolute slaves to this whole vaccine paradigm.
00:29:58.000It's not like influenza, where it can make big leaps.
00:30:03.000You know, it can change big chunks of itself because it exchanges bits of genetic information sometimes inside you.
00:30:09.000And so you see big leaps in the evolution of influenza viruses.
00:30:14.000And they genuinely do change a new vaccine.
00:30:19.000So I think this is where, for whatever reason, whoever's playing this stupid game, they're giving you just enough information that it's adjacent to something that's true that is not itself true.
00:30:31.000So the coronavirus is mutated so slowly.
00:30:34.000Let me tell you, in 16 months since it was sequenced in Wuhan, China, it's the most different variant.
00:30:42.000It's still 99.7% identical to the original.
00:30:52.000I absolutely assure you, both empirically and theoretically, That a variant of that little change will slither past your immune defenses, whether acquired naturally after infection or by vaccination.
00:31:07.000So I'm sorry folks, I've asked hundreds of thousands of people through these interviews, immunologists, doctors, scientists, researchers, Challenge me if I'm wrong.
00:31:18.000I'd sleep better, but I'm convinced I'm not wrong.
00:31:21.000And we are being told, and worse than we're being told, some of these companies, Robert, are manufacturing a billion doses of booster virus vaccines.
00:31:32.000And I think they can't be vaccines because you're already immunized and the change is so slight, you do not need a change.
00:31:39.000So this is where I fear At best, the scenario you described, Robert, of being controlled and required to receive some expensive top-up.
00:31:49.000It'd be a way of milking humanity forever whilst also having totalitarian control.
00:31:58.000I don't know what they're going to do.
00:31:59.000My fear is the combination of vaccine passports, an app on your phone that has to be valid at all times for you to transact in your normal life, We'll be used to bring you to a centre where you receive your booster jab or top-up jab.
00:32:14.000And if it is in someone's mind and plan to harm or kill us, that's the way they could do it with plausible deniability.
00:32:23.000And I think there are enough people who think they need to save the world by culling quite a lot of us.
00:32:51.000There's been several dozen really good immunological papers that I've studied.
00:32:56.000So-called T-cell immunity in people who've been vaccinated or recovered from the virus and asked, if we present these T-cells with every variant that we've got at the time they did the study, do they recognize them or not recognize them?
00:33:10.000The answer is they all recognize all of the variants.
00:33:13.000So theoretically, practically, what I've said is true.
00:33:17.000So you need to challenge The, you know, public health people who are telling you you need to get your jabs, your top-ups, your boosters, because it's not true.
00:33:25.000And maybe, maybe I'm right, and someone is planning to do some significant harm.
00:33:31.000Well, one way out of that is not to be in the trapped position that the vaccine passports provide.
00:33:38.000And as we've discussed, I think, I'm of the view that most people don't need vaccinating at all.
00:34:17.000Because you did something that we haven't seen before, which is a high-level, you know, Pfizer official, highly respected, stepping forward and talking about misgivings and doing it very publicly and very, very aggressively.
00:34:36.000What have they done to silence you other than evicting you from all the social media sites?
00:34:43.000I would say there's been a systematic campaign of written pieces about me because one way to affect someone like me who they might think has a reputation or pride is to make me out to be a lunatic.
00:34:57.000And that's why I was keen to say that before the COVID era, I had never made a public comment about anything.
00:35:04.000And so they made me out to be the anti-vaxxer darling.
00:36:47.000You know, so that's the way I treat it.
00:36:49.000You know, there really isn't anything to lose.
00:36:51.000There's no peaceful place for me to step back from and just pick up a quiet life.
00:36:55.000We are being controlled more and more.
00:36:59.000Today, the European Parliament discussed, I think it's called Green Certificates, something like that, Green Certificates.
00:37:04.000It's really a vaccine hospital system.
00:37:07.000And I watched several hours of debates, and most people seem to be in favour of them, and we've lobbied them as well.
00:37:13.000Maybe 10% understood this is unnecessary and it honestly represents a totalitarian control system.
00:37:21.000Vaccine passports are nothing like a yellow fever certificate that you need to go to certain parts of Africa.
00:37:29.000They are the world's first single format, digital ID containing, editable, And then what's called an interoperable database.
00:37:40.000So it's something that you can show through a system and the system can understand what you've shown them and make a decision to let you enter or not, to do a transaction or not, in real time.
00:38:08.000Well, now you are in completely the grip to live your life with whoever controls that database and the algorithms that sets what happens when you present your pulse.
00:38:18.000And so the vaccine passports, it's creating a world's first system that allows whoever And its algorithms, they utterly control everything, really, your ability to cross any threshold, be it a border or entering into a storm, and to spend any of your money if they want.
00:39:41.000One is I think to carry on my assistance, should we say, warning people, I'd probably be best to be in America and perhaps to help a state that is determined not to have, I don't know, scientific exaggeration, force closures of businesses and restrict people in the future.
00:42:02.000And obviously, if you're young and carefree and healthy and you're not at significant risk from the virus, you don't care about anybody's immune status either.
00:42:10.000So you don't need to see the old guy's vaccine passport.
00:42:13.000The only people who want vaccine passports are the people who are suggesting that they're necessary.
00:42:43.000I must say, when I made a little bit of money a few years ago, I realized that I only keep the money, as it were, the beneficence of whoever runs the banking system.
00:42:53.000If they decide that the digits on my screen aren't real anymore, then it's gone, because they're not real assets.
00:43:00.000And yes, it does feel like there's a strong push for digital currencies.
00:43:05.000I always say to people, I don't use cash very much, but do not let the executive ban cash.
00:43:20.000The idea that we should restrict cash as an anti-crime measure is just a lunatic idea.
00:43:27.000But the reason they want to get rid of cash, I think, is if you can spend your money sight unseen away from the authorities, legitimately and freely as a free citizen, why should you not do that?
00:43:40.000I think, along with these vaccine passports, your life will be controlled by apps, the rules of which are set by other people who are not democratically elected either.
00:43:52.000So be assured, no need to be fearful anymore about this.
00:43:58.000There are several really good medicines just from the medicine chest, like ivermectin and the anti-inflammatory product of steroids and others.
00:44:06.000So there's a medicine chest, there's probably a good level of herd immunity.
00:44:11.000For those who've chosen to be the vaccination, there was already some prior immunity in the population because this virus is related to other coronaviruses.
00:44:22.000There are at least now seven characterised.
00:44:24.000If you've been exposed to any of the common cold coronaviruses, that would probably give you a degree of protection against this one.
00:44:30.000And then finally, back to the children.
00:44:32.000The youngest children tend not to suffer from If they're infected, also very poor at transmitting it.
00:44:39.000So they don't need vaccines to protect them, and we don't need them vaccinated to protect anybody else.
00:44:45.000So I'm afraid the only reason that people are proposing they be vaccinated on the pregnant women is so that everybody's vaccinated.
00:44:54.000If everybody's vaccinated now, you can see that it makes sense to recruit them onto someone.
00:44:58.000It wouldn't make sense to me, but I can see them selling me up, putting everybody on a database.
00:45:04.000But the reality is only the Elderly and already ill really benefit from a vaccine.
00:45:09.000And so unless everybody gets vaccinated, the whole idea of vaccine passports is just non-void because two thirds of people, I think, shouldn't need to present it since they haven't been vaccinated.
00:45:23.000Every time I speak to somebody, hopefully, Robert, you've got a huge audience.
00:45:30.000And I hope every time A few thousand, maybe a few tens of thousands of people go, wait a minute, this guy's either a lunatic or, oh, crikey, yeah, maybe we're not being told the truth.
00:45:44.000It's been exaggerated, made persistent, ineffective measures put in place that I think economy, civil society, your community, and it could get worse.
00:46:03.000I like to think I'm normally a moderate person, and I wouldn't recommend you do something that would be harmful, but you can just take those.
00:46:11.000If you do that, there are far more of us than there are of whoever the demo.
00:46:16.000So, you know, it's in our hands for us to take it back.