Fran Drescher is best known for her portrayal of the beloved Fran Fine in the hit television series The Nanny, which she created, wrote, executive produced, and of course starred in. She was nominated for two Golden Globes and two Emmy Awards for Best Actress in a Comedy Series. Fran is also the President of the Green Council of the AFL-AFTRA and has been an outspoken advocate on public health issues. She developed an extraordinary philosophy about taking care of her own health, because she was told by 8 different doctors that she did not have cancer before actually getting a proper diagnosis. And she s been really outspoken about taking control of our own recovery from it. She s also been great on one of the issues that she and I have worked on, which is plastics. And every day we re finding more and more disturbing, troubling things about plastics. They disrupt the development of children s sexual development, and reduce sperm counts. And of course, from microplastics, when you drink water, you re getting all of these deleterious effects on your digestive system to your metabolic system and digestive system. And they re eating up your DNA. And they can do that by ruining your sperm count, your hormones, your fertility, your reproductive system, and your ability to get enough nutrients into your body. And you can t get enough of them in your body to start getting enough vitamins, minerals, fibre, and fibre, which you need to eat. And if you don t eat enough of these things, you ll develop maladies, you won t be as good as you can be, right? . She s not only eating enough of it, right and you ll get enough vitamins and minerals, which will make you better at eating enough calcium, enough fibre, enough to keep your sperm counts, enough calcium and enough of your body detoxification, enough vitamins & fibre, etc., etc. And you ll have a better chance of getting enough of everything you need for a good night s digesting your food, enough of that you can get enough water, enough fiber, enough iodine, enough minerals, enough rest, enough potassium, etc. and enough fibre to get some vitamins, etc.. and so on and so you ll be able to get a good rest. . . . and so much more! Thank you so much to all the people who helped me get this podcast out there. I hope you enjoy this podcast started. I really appreciate it.
00:00:15.000If you have that option, if you want to follow me on Telegram, of course, I've been kicked off of Instagram, so I don't really have another way to communicate with our group.
00:00:28.000So people who don't get enough of me on here, which I'd be surprised about, can find me on those other sites.
00:00:37.000I am really excited today to have one of my old and very, very close friends Fran Drescher, who I've known for more than 20 years, and who's been a big activist and supporter on environmental issues.
00:00:53.000We've partnered on a lot of environmental issues in the past.
00:00:57.000And let me give you, I actually, Fran, I have your biography, which is great, but I actually read your Wikipedia.
00:01:04.000And anybody who wants to entertain and ought to read I thought I really knew you and knew everything about you, but there's so much stuff in this.
00:01:14.000It's about 20 pages, and it's really, really interesting and fun to read.
00:01:19.000I don't know if you've read it, but I really had fun reading it.
00:01:25.000Fran is best known for her portrayal of the beloved Fran Fine in the hit television series The Nanny, which she created, wrote, executive produced, and of course starred in.
00:01:35.000She was nominated for two Golden Globes and two Emmy Awards for Best Actress in a Comedy Series.
00:01:42.000Of course, she was in Saturday Night Fever, which I did not remember that.
00:01:48.000I did remember you in Spinal Tap, which is, you know, the cult classic by Rob Reiner and one of my favorite movies, really an extraordinary movie.
00:01:58.000And my wife at that time, Cheryl, who you know well, another comedian and actor, was Rob Reiner's personal assistant.
00:02:08.000This is before she got the job on Curb Your Enthusiasm at the time that he made Spinal Tap.
00:02:14.000And that's just one of many, many areas where kind of our paths cross.
00:02:19.000Another is that I did not remember that you were in Ragtime.
00:02:23.000And the home that I lived in when my son Bobby, who you know, was born, was the Ragtime house where the film was shot in Malkiska, New York.
00:02:34.000It was their kind of recreation of Yonkers.
00:02:37.000I don't know if your scene was in that house.
00:02:41.000And then the other thing, the other really close connection that you have kind of with Cheryl is this long relationship you've had with Ray Romano Where you went to Hillcrest High School in Queens together, and then both made TV shows about your experience at that point of your life.
00:03:03.000And at one point, I think you do, I think in The Nanny, you did a fake high school reunion where Ray came to the reunion.
00:03:38.000This extraordinary battle yourself, and you developed very early on this philosophy about taking care of your own health, that we all need to be our own doctors, because you were told by eight different doctors that you did not have cancer before actually getting a proper diagnosis.
00:03:58.000And you've been really outspoken about taking control of our own recovery, of our own health.
00:04:04.000You've also been great on one of the issues that you and I have worked on, which is plastics.
00:04:10.000And every day we're finding more and more really disturbing, troubling things about plastics, about the phthalates.
00:04:19.000The biphenyls and plastics, which we now are suspected carcinogens, but we know that they're endocrine disruptors.
00:04:27.000They disrupt the development of children's sexual behavior, their sexual development.
00:04:36.000And we're fighting more and more every day about the incapacity of the human digestive system and metabolic system to process plastics.
00:04:47.000And of course, when you drink water from a plastic bottle, you're getting microplastics in your body that have all of these deleterious effects on them.
00:04:57.000And you've been amazing on that issue.
00:05:22.000I'm also the president of SAG-AFTRA now.
00:05:27.000And I did start something called Green Council, since you were talking about plastics, because I do think that it's time that our industry galvanized as one entity, all the different members that make up a production, all the different unions and producers, And come together under one umbrella, which we call Green Council.
00:05:52.000And we're making our mission number one, an industry-wide ban on single-use plastic, both on camera and behind the scenes.
00:06:02.000And I think this is particularly important because it's a very effective way that we can leverage the visual normalizing of single-use plastic and change that narrative.
00:06:22.000It's really important to me as the first environmentalist who's president of this entertainment union.
00:06:31.000And we have a lot of very high-profile members that are at the ready to help push this commitment by the industry to all the viewers around the world.
00:06:45.000And really make the influence of this action bigger than the sum of its parts.
00:06:52.000So that's one thing that I'm very excited about.
00:06:56.000Cancer Schmancer, we have our annual Masterclass Health Summit this year on January 21st.
00:07:06.000And it's at the Annenberg Beach House in Santa Monica.
00:07:10.000And it's kind of an all day thing with different speakers and breakfast and lunch.
00:07:16.000And we do it every year with different themes.
00:07:19.000And actually this year, it's the environmental impact on your health.
00:07:24.000Because many people do not associate with how you live, with how you feel.
00:08:34.000And that leaky gut is what's creating all the autoimmune problems that we see.
00:08:40.000The level of obesity from the GMO Corn syrup sweeteners that's hidden in so much, particularly food that's targeting children.
00:08:52.000I think that one of the big missed conversations, unfortunately, through the pandemic, not with Cancer Schmanza, but out there in the zeitgeist, was that this is really an opportunity to see that we're actually a very unhealthy nation.
00:09:10.000And we have a lot of these secondary health conditions that made getting the virus even more of a complication.
00:09:21.000Whereas people that really aren't fighting a lot of these secondary conditions, in many cases, I mean, they got it and they got well from it.
00:09:32.000And I think that when we look at how many people in this country Have, you know, diabetes and obesity and asthma and heart conditions and inflammation.
00:09:48.000And my experience has been, and I've sort of been on this path since my own cancer survival, that the cleaner you live, the healthier you are, the less sick you get, and the quicker you heal if you do get sick.
00:10:08.000And living very pristinely makes a huge impact on your health.
00:10:14.000And people are mindless consumers for the most part.
00:10:18.000They're enabling these sociopaths that are just hurting us, hurting us, hurting our children, hurting the planet, hurting our pets, all for the bottom line.
00:10:31.000But when making money at the expense of all things of true value is what you're doing.
00:10:39.000The air you breathe, the food you eat, the earth, all of our health, everything is sacrificed for the bottom line.
00:10:50.000We're living in a very dangerous time.
00:11:06.000And they'll sell us anything that we're willing to buy, which right now is anything.
00:11:11.000So we at Cancer Schmancer really are very much on the cutting edge of not looking for an end fix to the end symptom, which ultimately the end symptom to inflammation is cancer.
00:11:31.000And a lot of organizations, nonprofits like my own in the health space, they're very much focused on how to cure cancer.
00:11:42.000But it's much more practical to identify causation of cancer and eliminate it.
00:11:51.000So we educate, motivate and activate our followers and teach them through events like the Masterclass Health Summit, which does stream and get chopped up into a home video which does stream and get chopped up into a home video course that is also offered for But then you can make a small donation for your digital download.
00:12:18.000And it's just people say that it really changes their life because they don't hear this stuff from their regular doctor in most cases.
00:12:28.000Unless you're with a very progressive alternative medical doctor who is really looking at the whole body as a system and not just the part that's broke and trying to fix that, but understanding why it broke in the first place.
00:12:50.000And there's a large population of doctors that are reassessing all the systems in the body and really digging deep to see where the deficits are and how your lifestyle is contributing to that.
00:13:05.000And I'm just here to try and convince people to live more precisely.
00:13:11.000I mean, you're so motivated to help children's health, and yet there's so much targeting kids, and they're really not very discerning consumers.
00:13:26.000But also when they go to school, What are they cleaning?
00:13:30.000What industrial cleaning products are they cleaning desks with?
00:13:35.000And what are they spraying on the playing fields that they say you can't go on it for 24 hours?
00:14:04.000I think we're very easily brainwashed.
00:14:07.000Everything got wrapped up in the 20th century in what's modern and convenient.
00:14:12.000And the idea of just getting down on your hands and knees and pulling out weeds, people don't think about that anymore.
00:14:21.000I remember when I asked my friend who's a partner of Cancer Schmancer and the founder of the Plastic Pollution Coalition, well, what do you put on like a bowl of food that you want to put into the refrigerator?
00:14:37.000And she said, instead, in lieu of like saran wrap, I couldn't think of what else I could use.
00:14:50.000And we use parchment paper instead of aluminum foil?
00:14:54.000Because that also gives off noxious gases.
00:14:58.000When it's heated, and I grew up, they were wrapping up the potatoes and the corn at the barbecues, and my mom would roast a big turkey and be tented in this big aluminum foil disposable pan and aluminum foil over the top.
00:15:17.000And you can't really cook with that anymore because now they know that it releases things that aren't good for us.
00:15:23.000So once you take a deep dive into this, we call it a cancer schmanza detox your home because the home is the most toxic place we spend the most time in and ironically have the most control over.
00:15:35.000And it's more toxic than living across the street from an oil refinery.
00:15:40.000So once you take this dive and you bring your family into it and you start reading labels and replacing things with other things, it becomes a lifestyle, truly.
00:15:51.000And you start to see how your quality of health begins to improve because we're slowly eroding our immune system.
00:16:28.000And if we stop buying it, we will be better for it.
00:16:32.000And manufacturers will have to be forced to be more responsible about their impact on the environment as well as the consumer.
00:16:44.000Yeah, you mentioned aluminum, and I was thinking that when I was a kid, and you know, I've been sober for a long time, and I haven't had pot in 40 years, but I used to make the pot pipes out of a toilet paper roll and a little piece of aluminum.
00:17:00.000You'd put pinholes in and then smoke, and I shudder to think, literally heating up aluminum with a Zippo lighter and inhaling it.
00:17:13.000And one of the things we know about aluminum Is that human beings have never been exposed to aluminum before.
00:17:21.000Other metals are mobilized in the environment, like lead, etc.
00:17:25.000And our body is accustomed to them, but literally 100% of the aluminum in the world was locked into bauxite.
00:17:32.000And we only started releasing it really just at the beginning of World War II, and not much until the revolution in air travel, because they needed aluminum for airplanes.
00:17:43.000And then we started finding all kinds of uses for it.
00:17:47.000And I grew up eating and drinking and cooking with aluminum pans.
00:17:52.000And, you know, particularly when you cook something acidic, now we know, like tomato sauce or spaghetti sauce, and those pans have mobilized the aluminum and it gets into your body.
00:18:04.000And aluminum is the one thing that they know is linked to the epidemic in Alzheimer's.
00:19:22.000But it's not always easy, depending on where you are, where you're traveling to, whose home you're going to, what you're invited to, whatever.
00:19:34.000Because you can get so nuts about all this.
00:19:38.000Meanwhile, these are the times we're living.
00:19:41.000We're not going to ever see another world besides this, you and I. This is it.
00:19:47.000So we have to somehow learn how to live within it and try and modify it or at least change ourselves, each one and then each one to each one.
00:19:58.000I find that when people get extremely overwhelmed by all that's wrong with the world, And there's so much.
00:20:07.000I mean, I'm just so nauseated by the most recent mass shooting in Colorado Springs.
00:20:15.000And I just don't know how we're ever going to climb our way out of this terrible time.
00:20:23.000And I feel like when people start fighting each other, that's the divide and conquer philosophy.
00:20:33.000So somebody is benefiting from the divide of the World Economic Forum.
00:20:41.000They want us all fighting each other and not noticing that they're stealing everything that we own, including our children's health, commoditizing our landscapes, our kids, our health, and then militarizing and monetizing public health.
00:20:59.000I think you found out when you had cancer.
00:21:02.000You and I are both friends with Woody Harrelson.
00:21:06.000Woody Harrelson and his wife, Laura Lee, visit us sometime in the summertime up at the Cape.
00:21:12.000And the first thing they do is they go out and they buy all new pots and pans because they won't cook in any of the stuff that I have in my house.
00:21:22.000So now I have, you know, we use a lot of the old irons because even if you get rid of the aluminum, this is what you said about making a The perfect, the enemy of the good.
00:21:35.000It's really hard to live in a way that keeps all of this stuff away from kids.
00:21:41.000But then you get into the Teflon and these coatings, which are really, really bad.
00:21:51.000There are PFASs, PFOAs that are incredibly harmful to you.
00:21:59.000We do a lot of our cooking now on the old-style iron skillets that are a little harder to clean, and you get more sticking to them, but there are many, many generations that worked with that pretty well.
00:22:12.000Yeah, I would never use non-stick and I try and convince my parents and my mom sometimes.
00:22:20.000And you see these commercials, the egg slides right out of the pan and everything like that.
00:22:25.000And they're all about trying to convince you that you can't live without this thing.
00:22:29.000But I find that the food does stick to the pans that I use, but I don't clean it after I use it.
00:22:37.000I fill it up with hot water and a little bit of dish soap, and I let it sit overnight.
00:22:44.000And then in the morning, it comes right out.
00:22:47.000So I think that it's just creating different habits and learning how to live within the margins of the things that are actually more important.
00:23:33.000One of the things that I would say to people, so that we don't depress them, is that I know a lot about glyphosate because of the Monsanto cases and because I've been working on those issues for many years.
00:23:46.000One of the things about glyphosate that is very encouraging, if you stop eating, If you start eating organic food, the glyphosate disappears from your body almost immediately.
00:23:59.000And because of what I do, I have many, many parents of kids who have autism diagnoses or have behavioral issues, ADD, ADHD, and many, many other issues.
00:24:13.000And what they almost universally say to me is, when we start feeding our kids organic, their behavior gets much better.
00:24:48.000And I ended up getting the mercury chelated out.
00:24:51.000So I got it removed, which you can do with mercury.
00:24:55.000And there's a number of different ways to do it.
00:24:57.000But there is no real way that is of removing aluminum.
00:25:03.000Were you eating a lot of fish and sushi and stuff like that?
00:25:08.000Mercury doesn't hold in on men as much as it does on women and children because they don't have as high a fat content.
00:25:16.000Yeah, but mercury is a lot worse for men than it is for women.
00:25:20.000And the reason for that is that testosterone amplifies the neurotoxicity of the mercury molecule, whereas estrogen tends to wrap the mercury molecule and protect the human brain.
00:25:33.000And it's an antioxidant, and it's the only antioxidant that's found in every cell of the human body.
00:27:00.000I'll have a little soy sauce, whatever.
00:27:02.000But actually, there's very scientific basis for why those are eaten along with eating raw fish.
00:27:13.000That, of course, the Japanese know from a millennial, but we in the Western world, and we give it to our kids, too, don't really understand that the wasabi kills The bacteria in the gut from the raw fish because it creates like a fire in the belly.
00:27:37.000As with many cultures that eat spicy food or hot food or food that creates fire in the belly.
00:27:46.000And you're supposed to have that with every piece of fish.
00:27:50.000And then when you eat the pickled ginger, that has all the good gut bacteria, all the probiotics in it.
00:28:03.000Because anything that's fermented like that has a lot of good bacteria.
00:28:11.000And so then you eat that and you refortify the gut so that you have a strong presence of the healthy bacteria.
00:28:23.000And this balancing act of our internal microbiome Is key to our health.
00:28:32.000And we, you, me, and everybody listening, is basically the thermostat of our body.
00:28:41.000And we have to kind of like step outside of ourselves and observe what is happening around us that may be considered an interference or For keeping a healthy, like that, 72 degrees on your thermostat.
00:29:02.000You know what it feels like when you feel great.
00:29:06.000Unfortunately, most of us have lowered the mean of what we consider feeling okay.
00:29:13.000And we're very drug dependent, and we get tired, or we have cognitive problems, or...
00:29:21.000Skeletal problems or muscular problems or intestinal problems, all of these things.
00:29:27.000And we're not really thinking that that's not really the way we're supposed to be feeling.
00:29:36.000But it's not really the right way to feel.
00:29:39.000And so we have to take control of our own bodies and start to think, okay, I was in this elevator and some dude was coughing all over me.
00:29:51.000So maybe by the time I get to my office, I'm going to amp up on some vitamin C. Maybe I'll have a little cup of green tea, I'll wash my hands, whatever, to offset the interference.
00:30:06.000Or you get into a fight with someone or your boss yells at you and you didn't feel like you deserved it.
00:30:15.000That too will challenge your immune system.
00:30:19.000Stress very quickly will upset the immune system to not work at an optimal.
00:30:26.000So then you've got to think to yourself, okay, I don't want to get sick from this.
00:30:33.000So I'm going to take some empty accidents.
00:30:35.000Maybe I'll take a walk because that'll de-stress me.
00:30:38.000Or I'll lie down for 10 minutes and close my eyes.
00:30:41.000Or I'll look around the room that I'm in and really take it in like I haven't ever seen it before to bring me into the present so I'm not up in my head or having arguments that I was over already.
00:30:55.000So this is us being in charge of our own body and understanding that the gut microbiome...
00:31:05.000Now, when we talk about systems in the body and why an alternative doctor is so plugged into this, gut is brain and gut is immune system.
00:31:18.000If your gut bacteria is out of whack, And you don't have a really good population of healthy gut bacteria.
00:31:31.000It's going to affect your immune system.
00:31:34.000Everything can affect the immune system.
00:31:36.000And that's what we constantly have to be on top of.
00:31:39.000And that's why I'm always telling people, All of the products that we use, the household items that we clean with, the gardening things that we use, everything, all our personal care items, including oral hygiene, and all the foods that we eat and the beverages that we drink and the vessels that they all come in have to be re-evaluated.
00:32:02.000And that's just the tip of the iceberg because if that shirt you're wearing is a no-iron shirt, It could be 100% cotton, but it's been doused with chemicals.
00:32:13.000And 10 years after, it's still off-gassing.
00:32:26.000It's the flame-retarded on our kids' pajamas and upholstered pieces and curtains.
00:32:35.000It's all becoming this cacophony of Of toxins and carcinogens that went all together from the minute you wake up and even after you go to sleep.
00:34:29.000And I do it in the union too, much to the shock or chagrin of some people that would rather I didn't.
00:34:38.000I want to point out to our audience that George Bush appointed you a senior diplomat in his administration on women's rights.
00:34:50.000Yes, there was a bill that was floating around, and this was a few years after my gynecologic cancer survival, and it was the Gynecologic Cancer Education and Awareness Act.
00:35:03.000Ultimately, that's what it was called in the Senate.
00:35:06.000And I was invited to try and help push it through.
00:35:35.000So that really shows somebody who- It was quite a feat.
00:35:38.000And that's why the Bush administration offered me a public diplomacy envoy position, which took me to do my health talk to all of our allied nations and military bases.
00:35:56.000I was really thrilled to participate in our government in that way.
00:36:04.000And they leveraged because my celebrity is around the world too.
00:36:09.000So it made it a nice presentation that I was representing the United States, but everybody knew me as the nanny.
00:36:17.000And as a cancer survivor, I had a lot to talk about in terms of taking control of your body.
00:36:24.000And being your own best advocate and becoming better partners with your physician, recognizing what the early warning whispers of diseases that could affect you or cancers that might affect you.
00:36:41.000And then understanding that Genes have 27 different ways of expressing themselves.
00:36:48.000So even if you test positive for something, like I test positive for rheumatoid arthritis, but I'm not active, even though my mom is, But she doesn't do anything environmentally to stop the gene from expressing itself in that way.
00:37:09.000And it's usually environmental that's going to kind of zhuzh it in a bad direction if you're not really careful.
00:37:20.000About how you're abusing your body, how much you're forcing it to be exposed to in these vastly unhealthy, unnatural times that we're living.
00:38:04.000Because if you do it, and your neighbor does it, and your sister does it, and your parents do it, it only takes 10% of a population to shift a paradigm.
00:38:17.000And that's what we need to kind of try and get to.
00:38:21.000I mean, you're always fighting them, which is great because you've made tremendous impact.
00:38:29.000And I'm always trying to wake up the consumer to go from being a mindless consumer to being a mindful consumer.
00:38:38.000And once you wake up and smell the coffee, it's hard to go back to sleep.
00:38:42.000Yeah, I have the genes for spasmodic dystonia, and other members of my family do too, but theirs did not manifest.
00:38:52.000And mine started manifesting when I was 42 years old after an environmental insult.
00:38:56.000So, you know, a lot of times if you can protect yourself, for example, one out of every four people who smoke cigarettes for 20 years is going to get lung cancer.
00:39:06.000But three are not, because they don't have the genetic vulnerability.
00:39:53.000But in many cases, it is environmental, and it is this constant attacking of the quality of our immune system and the level of health that we're getting used to living at.
00:40:08.000Rand, thank you for everything you do, and thanks for joining us.
00:40:12.000Thank you, and thanks for all that you do.
00:40:14.000You know, Bobby, I'm grateful that you have the courage to speak out on so many things, and you make such a difference.
00:40:23.000So you live your family's legacy well.