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00:01:42.000The lieutenant governor, she puts on just a weekly educational session, and I thought I was giving a lunchtime chit-chat to about 100 people.
00:02:23.000Basic immune health, basic things that we're not doing, risky shots with no long-term track history, missing out on early treatments that do save lives, and I know you've had plenty of my colleagues on that have talked about that, and that's so, so important because never in the history of medicine have we ever neglected a patient and turned them away and not treated them So I spoke very simple things that resonated with the hearts and minds of humanity.
00:02:51.000And because of that, I constantly research.
00:04:23.000As opposed to, you know, the official paradigm at this point is the standard of care is that you wait until you're so sick, you send them home, tell them, call us back when you can't breathe.
00:04:36.000Two weeks later, they're living there in anxiety, and then you bring them into a hospital and give them a ventilator and remdesivir.
00:05:29.000What I do is when they come to me and...
00:05:32.000If they can't get to me, the challenge is being one person and having hundreds of people per day because they're desperate, because no one wants to treat and doctors are stuck in systems.
00:05:42.000Even doctors that do want to treat can't because their systems will fire them.
00:05:46.000So for me, it's a multi-drug approach.
00:06:16.000It's not obligated to read a textbook to be told what it can or can't do.
00:06:20.000It's a molecule that can do whatever it wants to do.
00:06:22.000And for over a decade, we've known that it has antiviral properties.
00:06:26.000So research has shown for a long time that this is a very good antiviral because it has a lot of mechanisms to block viruses from replicating and binding and entering our cells.
00:06:37.000Certainly hydroxychloroquine early has a lot of effects as well.
00:06:40.000Another one that came out of the UK, a simple cholesterol drug called phenofibrate, which bends the shape of the spike in our receptors so the virus can interact.
00:06:50.000At the appropriate stage, using the proper steroids, the hospitals are using anemic steroids that don't turn off cytokine genes, fluvoxamine if patients have neural symptoms.
00:07:10.000Back in December of last year, when I saw some of the ivermectin data, my brother was my first patient and he lives in another state, called me on his way to the ER and said, no, you're going to the pharmacy.
00:07:41.000So that was my entree into it was saving my brother's life.
00:07:45.000And then I got to treat my 78 year old mom, my 83 year old dad.
00:07:48.000And of the countless hundreds and hundreds of patients I've treated, zero have gone to the hospital, zero have gone to the ER and test, treat early.
00:07:59.000And maybe 3% of those took maybe a week longer to heal because they started in the course later.
00:08:06.000So my message is there's plenty of online telehealth services.
00:08:10.000If you can't find a doctor in your region, you go to myfreedoctor.com, speakwithanmd.com, frontlinemds.com.
00:08:18.000Any of these groups and try to get early treatment keeps you out of the ER, keeps you out of the hospital.
00:08:24.000And then the one other thing, and you've probably heard this, that's getting ignored left and right.
00:08:28.000If the pharma companies want to be involved with an effective drug, well then the monoclonal antibodies, they've been paid for.
00:08:34.000They're parked in infusion centers and emergency rooms around the country, but there are crickets about this.
00:08:39.000Drug that decreases death and hospitalization by 50%.
00:08:42.000So, you know, kudos to Ron DeSantis for finally pushing that forward in his state.
00:08:47.000And he's had really great success by getting that message out.
00:08:50.000So there are early treatments that save lives.
00:08:53.000There's no reason in a profession where we have taken an oath, not treating early is doing harm.
00:08:59.000It's a sin of omission by not treating.
00:09:04.000The audience has asked me all the time, what are doctors doing for long-haul COVID and also for vaccine injuries for people who got the vaccine and are having these neurological symptoms on their symptoms from a vaccine that lasts for months?
00:09:23.000Yeah, and that's an excellent question.
00:09:25.000There are some of these medications that the mechanism in these long-haul patients, kudos to Dr.
00:09:33.000Bruce Patterson, And then he has a website, covidlonghaulers.com, and they're doing research.
00:09:40.000But mechanistically, there's a certain type of white blood cell, a non-classical monocyte that is still holding fragments of virus and or spike inside of it.
00:09:49.000It's kind of the same mechanism in the long hauler and or the post-COVID patient.
00:09:53.000Fascinatingly, ivermectin is fantastic for that.
00:09:56.000Those who have neurologic injury post a vaccine or post long haul, Fluvoxamine has had great effect in a good percentage of those patients.
00:10:41.000But if you understand, and that's what we do in basic science, and that's what we do in laboratory medicine, we look at the mechanisms of action of these long haulers or the post-vaccine injured.
00:10:53.000And if you understand which cells are involved, then you know how to approach the treatment protocols.
00:10:59.000You know, vitamin D in good dose will help repolarize and inactivate those non-classical monocytes.
00:11:05.000One of the statins, the torvastatin, is effective.
00:11:08.000Melatonin, interestingly, because it affects your hormones.
00:11:12.000And then there's even another line of cells, kind of your itchy inflammatory cells, your mast cells.
00:11:17.000Some of these patients are hyperactivated in that line.
00:11:20.000So you can use some antihistamines, famotidine, which is Pepsid or Claritin-Allegra, the non-D type.
00:11:27.000Again, there are so many things and it's surprising and shocking to me that so many of my colleagues are like, oh, you have long haul, you know, good luck.
00:11:35.000I'm like, no, no, we're here for humanity.
00:11:39.000Let's step in and Be hardcore scientists, be compassionate, be empathetic, dive in, and treat.
00:11:45.000And the beauty of a lot of this is the majority of these drugs, we get the criticism of, well, that's not FDA approved for this.
00:11:53.000And I say, well, these are FDA approved drugs.
00:11:56.000Most doctors write 30 to 40% of their prescriptions for off-label use every day in their practice.
00:12:56.000Ivermectin, you know, you can get for 30 cents a dose.
00:12:59.000It has a drug that is selling for $3,000 a dose.
00:13:03.000And now it's saying, well, we have safety concerns.
00:13:06.000But Merck has been giving 900 million doses a year to children in Africa for a decade and never had any safety concerns.
00:13:17.000And now suddenly, when they have a competitive drug, Have you looked at what's happening in other countries who are actually applying these kind of enlightened protocols?
00:13:30.000And Merck, they got a $340 million grant from the NIH for their new drug.
00:13:34.000Of course, they have no interest in their old generic drug that's cheap.
00:13:38.000And I have a colleague that knows the Vice President of Merck, and she called him out, and she talked to him and said, look, I know what you're up to.
00:13:47.000So they have a financial interest in another drug that, again, ivermectin, safest drug you could be giving, almost 4 billion doses given, maybe 12 adverse outcomes in the last, you know, 40, almost 40 years.
00:14:00.000Meanwhile, remdesivir in one year has killed over 600 patients in the hospital.
00:14:04.000Ivermectin is safer than aspirin, safer than Tylenol, you know, with aspirin 3000 this year.
00:14:10.000But if you look at those other countries, take, for example, Mexico.
00:14:13.000Mexico City called the province of Chiapas and said, what the heck are you guys doing?
00:14:17.000And they said, well, we're testing and treating.
00:14:20.000If someone tested positive, Ivermectin, Ivermectin for the family, and their hospitals went from, you know, 80, 90, 95% capacity down to Or of full capacity down to like 20%.
00:14:30.000So Mexico City said, well, let's do the same thing.
00:14:33.000And then when Delta, the same one we're experiencing here, went through India, some of the forward-thinking provinces said they had been using it in their first wave.
00:14:57.000In two weeks, prior to all the other provinces dropping, wherever they did these mass distribution of early treatment, again, 97% decrease in two weeks.
00:15:06.000Same thing in the north in the highly populated Uttar Pradesh.
00:15:09.000And so if you look at these population studies, it's undeniable on mass scale how effective this test and treat and prevent program is.
00:15:21.000And as a prevention, you look at the work of Dr.
00:15:23.000Carvalho in Argentina, 800 healthcare workers put them on it during their first wave once a week for two months, and of those 800 healthcare workers, zero got COVID, and their placebo control group of 400, 57-58% of people got COVID. So if used early, if used appropriately, these drugs are incredibly safe and massively effective, but it's undeniable.
00:15:44.000There's no money in it, but there's life-saving in it, and that's the beauty of it.
00:15:51.000The head of their medical association called for it.
00:15:54.000He called for mass distribution of ivermectin.
00:15:57.000Fascinatingly, ivermectin comes from the soil of a bacteria in Japan, one small spot in the earth where this beautiful life-saving medication was discovered.
00:16:18.000There's no one-size-fits-all solution.
00:16:20.000And we had this construct and beating drum of fear, suffering vaccine, fear, suffering vaccine, that's all you have.
00:16:26.000For different age groups, different populations, you need to look at different interventions, different modalities.
00:16:30.000And so, again, some of these other countries have been the leaders...
00:16:35.000Why it's been suppressed in our media, you and I could conjecture, there's no money in it, there's only life-saving in it.
00:16:41.000I don't know, I can't ascribe to motive, never ascribe to malice, that which can be explained by ignorance.
00:16:47.000And I think, you know, a lot of our media and a lot of our sources are willfully ignorant, not wanting to know that there's something so simple and so effective.
00:16:56.000I've asked this question to Peter Corey, I've asked it to Peter McCulloch, I've asked it Dr.
00:17:01.000Harvey Risch, they've all told us and given me roughly the same answer.
00:17:06.000If we had done early treatment in this country, from the time when we knew that these drugs were available, how many lives could we have saved?
00:17:16.000I would say in the United States, 350, 400,000, maybe more.
00:17:22.000There were certainly people that were elderly, high risk, highly comorbid, that no matter what virus came along this last season, like we see in any respiratory virus, flu, whatever season, you're still going to see a set percentage of your population susceptible and pass away.
00:17:38.000But had we intervened early with these highly effective, highly safe medications, we would have had hundreds of thousands of fewer deaths from this.
00:17:47.000We're seeing in California where doctors with the right of exemptions for any vaccine are now being delicensed by the medical This is malice.
00:18:38.000And to deny a doctor the opportunity to exempt and save a patient from harm That's our job.
00:18:44.000And I see signals of things that are concerning for many patients.
00:18:49.000And so to suppress speech and suppress science and to say there's only one way to think, it's incomprehensible because we know from a science point of view what damage is being done to certain people.
00:19:04.000We know who are at risk for the shots.
00:19:06.000Not everybody's at risk, but a lot of people are.
00:19:09.000That's our sacred relationship with the patient that should not be infringed.
00:19:15.000I've been saying lately, if everybody's thinking alike, then somebody isn't thinking.