Robert Krieger is an advocate for changing the incentives of the healthcare system, and he s the founder of TruMed, a company that enables tax-free spending on food and exercise. He s also a co-author with his sister, Dr. Casey Means, of Good Energy: The Surprising Connection Between Metabolism and Limitless Health, which is coming out next year and available for pre-order. Earlier in his career, he was a consultant for the food and pharmaceutical industries, and is now exposing the corrupt practices that those industries use to weaponize our regulatory agencies, our press, and our other institutions of trust. He s a graduate of Stanford and Harvard Business School, and I m really happy to meet him. I m embarrassed to say I had not heard of him before I saw him on the Tucker Carlson show. I was blown away by some of the stuff that he was saying, and how aligned it is with the things I ve been doing over the past 20 years in exposing the food industry and the pharmaceutical industry for their corrupt practices. I m proud to have him as a guest on the show today. This is a must-listen for anyone who wants to know what's going on in the world of health and wellness, and wants to be a foot soldier in the fight. If you don t know who he is, then you re in for a real treat. You ll have to listen to this one. -Tucker Carlson, host of The Weekly Hacking Podcast - Subscribe to his newest podcast, "Tucker's Place" wherever he is listening to his favorite shows on the airwaves, wherever he can get the most of his best listening to the most authentic and most authentic content. Subscribe to Tucker's newest episodes on the most influential podcasts on the internet. Enjoyed the show? Subscribe on iTunes? Subscribe on Podchaser? Learn more about your ad choices? Leave us a review and tell a friend about what you think of the show on social media using the hashtag and we'll be giving him a shoutout in next week's episode on the next episode of his new podcast, on Tuesday s episode of "Outnumbered" on Outnumbered. Thank you for listening to Tucker Carlson's Outnumbered? and Good Energy! Timestamps: 5:00 - What's your favorite thing you've listened to in the past week? 6:30 - What s your favorite food or exercise supplement? 7:00 - How do you think about your healthiest meal? 8 - What are you looking forward to in 2020? 9 - What do you would you like to hear in the future? 10 - What kind of food you're going to eat next? 11 - Which is your favorite meal or exercise plan?
00:00:03.000Kelly is an advocate for changing the incentives of the healthcare system, and he's the founder of TruMed, a company that enables tax-free spending on food and exercise.
00:00:13.000He's also a co-author with his sister, Dr.
00:00:16.000Casey Means, of Good Energy, The Surprising Connection Between Metabolism and Limitless Health.
00:00:22.000Which is coming out next year and available for pre-order.
00:00:25.000Earlier in his career, he was a consultant for food and pharmaceutical industries and is now exposing the corrupt practices that those industries use to weaponize our regulatory agencies, our press, our other institutions of trust.
00:00:41.000And he's a graduate of Stanford and Harvard Business School.
00:00:44.000Callie, I'm really, really happy to meet you.
00:00:47.000I'm embarrassed to say I had not heard of you before I saw you on the Tucker Carlson show.
00:00:53.000I was blown away by some of the stuff that you were saying or working on and how aligned it is with With the things that I've been doing over the past 20 years in exposing the food industry and the pharmaceutical industry.
00:01:11.000And anyway, I'm really proud to have you on the show.
00:01:14.000Put soldier in your fight, Robert, and it's great to be here.
00:01:17.000So this week, the IRS has considered by the time this podcast airs, the IRS presumably will have approved the A new policy that favors treatments with Ozempic over actually eating good food, which is the root of all of these chronic diseases that we have.
00:01:43.000So talk to us a little bit about that.
00:01:45.000Robert, so many Americans have come to, I think, again, be foot soldiers in your fight through different routes.
00:02:19.000And the reason I'm in this fight is because if one of those doctors, instead of prescribing her another pill, said, I'm going to write you a note with a detailed dietary plan.
00:02:27.000I'm going to write you a note with an exercise intervention.
00:02:30.000We're going to get control of this metabolic dysfunction that these indicators are representing.
00:02:34.000This is not a statin deficiency or metformin deficiency.
00:02:38.000Robert, this is the majority of Americans.
00:02:39.00094% of Americans are metabolically dysfunctional.
00:02:43.000The fight I'm in is steering medical dollars.
00:02:46.000This is actually taking what you're saying and actually how do we operationalize that?
00:02:49.000Well, with HSA, FSA accounts, these tax-free accounts, $150 billion that Americans have to make qualified medical expenses with their physicians, those can go to drugs.
00:02:59.000But the IRS for the past 40 years has been clear.
00:03:02.000If the doctor writes a note for exercise, for dietary intervention, for supplements to reverse or prevent conditions, those tax-free funds can go to that.
00:03:11.000And through my company and nonprofit, we've been evangelizing that.
00:03:20.000The IRS has been clear for 40 years that actually if a doctor specifically recommends food, exercise, supplements, it actually can.
00:03:29.000The American people didn't understand this, and I have been evangelizing this, that when we have an obesity crisis, 80% of Americans that are overweight or obese, 66% of Americans pre-diabetic.
00:03:39.000Doctors can and should actually be writing medical notes.
00:03:42.000And through our work, through my nonprofit and my company, we've been evangelizing this.
00:03:46.000Hundreds of thousands of Americans have been going to their doctor and working on dietary plans and actually steering tax-free dollars to that.
00:03:52.000About $100 million by our account in the past couple of months.
00:04:06.000Yeah, so there's no definition, Robert, in any laws, despite pharma's best efforts, that medicine is a pill developed by Pfizer.
00:04:15.000Medicine is what a doctor and a patient determine what can prevent or reverse a condition.
00:04:20.000And there's significant case law since the 1950s that if food is medically recommended, if supplementation, for instance, omega-3s, DHA, 1,000 milligrams has been shown to be more effective than an SSRI in reversing depression.
00:04:37.000So if you tie a supplement intervention, vitamin D deficiency to many metabolic disorders, or if you can tie exercise, which exercise, as Mark Hyman has said, is if you put an epilabetic, a blockbuster, you can actually, the doctors actually can work with patients and write down an intervention.
00:04:53.000And with that doctor's note, you can then use your medically advantaged dollars instead of waiting to get sick and buying drugs, which those funds are often used for it.
00:05:02.000You can actually buy your gym membership.
00:05:04.000You can actually buy supplemental food.
00:05:18.000If medically recommended, they've said explicitly, and this is deep in their documents, IRS Publication 502, that you can use HSAFSA funds for your gym membership if a doctor can substantiate that exercise can help prevent or reverse a condition.
00:05:41.000That said, medicine is a synthetic pill or injection.
00:05:44.000As we both know, food and exercise is medicine.
00:05:47.000And what I'm in this fight for is today, 95% of, as we know, medical interventions are after someone gets sick.
00:05:55.000They're pharmaceutical and other sick care procedures to manage chronic disease.
00:05:58.000There is a tool right now that we've been evangelizing very clearly that with an obesity crisis, doctors can write recommendations for exercise and food interventions instead of Ozempic.
00:06:11.000So that brings us up to today, but that's been something I want everyone to know.
00:06:15.000We'll talk about the IRS guidance, but the guiding principle, the guidance that is still the law is that you can go to your doctor.
00:06:24.000If you're pre-diabetic, if you're dealing with heart issues, if you're dealing with obesity, you can actually get a medical letter from your doctor with a detailed dietary plan if Our company, TruMed, works on that too.
00:06:36.000And you can use your HSA, FSA dollars to go to metabolically healthy items instead of getting on a pharmaceutical path like my mom, where it's just pill after pill after pill, not addressing the root cause.
00:06:49.000Yes, that's what we've been evangelizing, Robert.
00:06:52.000But the IRS, we can talk about that, but they had something to say about it.
00:06:55.000Let's talk about what they said about it.
00:06:58.000Well, just to give some inside baseball, a literal pharmaceutical lobbyist who was upset with what we were doing tipped off the IRS, and the IRS called the Washington Post.
00:07:08.000And this will be out by the time this podcast is out.
00:07:11.000And they said, quote, food is not medicine.
00:07:13.000They said that in very rare cases that food and supplements can be appropriate medicine.
00:07:19.000This is absolutely a negligent comment.
00:07:24.000This is under context where, as I said, 80% of Americans are obese or overweight, where Ozympic is on track to be the most prescribed drug in America, where 40 plus percent of men over 40 are statin, where 25% of women are on SSRI.
00:07:39.000The IRS, for the first time I can find in its history, says food is not medicine.
00:07:44.000So they're commenting on what a doctor can and should recommend to their patient for the reversal of our chronic disease crisis.
00:07:52.000And they actually, shockingly, Robert, they commented on the scale of the recommendations.
00:07:58.000They actually said supplementation, vitamin D, omega-3s, etc., things we're very deficient in, can only be made medically in, quote, rare cases.
00:08:07.000So let's be just really clear what the IRS is saying.
00:08:10.000They're saying that it is easier and clearer and less scrutiny if you're obese to get a prescription for a Zempic than to work with your doctor to get a detailed food supplement exercise plan and use your own money, your tax advantage money with a doctor recommendation, with a doctor's plan. your tax advantage money with a doctor recommendation, with a Use that money, as has been elucidated over decades of case law, use that money for root cause interventions.
00:08:31.000decades of case law, use that money for root cause interventions.
00:08:35.000And I want to be really clear here, the operationalizing of your policies to me is the money.
00:08:40.000The American people are not trying to be sicker, fatter, more depressed, more infertile.
00:08:46.000As I saw working for food and pharma, we're pushing people into that system.
00:08:50.000We're pushing trillions of dollars of incentives for kids to eat poisonous food, eventually get sick, and then get on a pharmaceutical treadmill.
00:08:56.000Where the rubber hits the road, what's disruptive is steering medical dollars to actually helping people be healthy, exercise, food, supplements.
00:09:05.000There was that road in the HSA, FSA policies.
00:09:08.000And the second that starts getting attention, through my work on Tucker and evangelizing that you can actually use your medical dollars for root cause metabolic items, the IRS is not speaking about the overprescription of Ozempic or Stans or SSRIs.
00:09:21.000They have made a statement today, quote, food is not medicine.
00:09:25.000Do you think they did that in reaction to your interviews?
00:09:29.000They told the Washington Post specifically, they've actually, I've heard that they said, quote, that when a benefit gets out, it's hard to take back in.
00:09:38.000And they were complaining that all these folks are reimbursing gym memberships.
00:09:42.000And it's just an explosion of people getting medical dollars for exercise.
00:09:46.000They said it's happening way too fast.
00:09:48.000Now, the fact that people hear about this, they can work with their doctor for an exercise prescription and more people are doing it is not a statement on us.
00:09:55.000It's a statement on the broken system.
00:09:57.000It's a statement, frankly, on the moral failure of doctors who have 66% of adults and 33% of teens coming into their office with pre-diabetes and they're prescribing pills instead of writing a note for exercise, instead of writing a note for better food interventions, instead of writing a note for supplementation.
00:10:14.000The IRS has said explicitly this is happening way too fast.
00:10:17.000Too many people are getting doctor's notes for food.
00:10:20.000Too many people are getting doctor's notes for exercise.
00:10:24.000It recently came out, I saw on Twitter, and in a very short period of time, SSRI prescriptions have doubled.
00:10:32.000Adderall, 15% of US high schoolers are on.
00:10:35.000There's no statement about the IRS. This is all being driven through tax-advantaged spending.
00:10:41.000Billions and billions and billions of dollars of HSA, FSA dollars are going to that without a thought.
00:10:45.000The first time the IRS, in recorded history that I could find, is commenting on the degree to which doctors should be recommending to their patients is today on food and exercise.
00:10:58.000I mean, one of the things that you said that I've used again and again, so I didn't know this data point that, for example, when I was a kid, that typical pediatrician might see one juvenile diabetes in his career.
00:11:11.000And today, 33% of the kids who walk into his office, one out of every three is pre-diabetic or diabetic.
00:11:42.000Why are we the sickest nation in the history of the world from chronic disease?
00:11:48.000Well, let's get into it because I worked for these industries and I got an answer for you.
00:11:52.000And again, I've been learning a lot from you, so excuse me if I'm repeating some of the stuff you've been evangelizing better than anyone, but I'll tell you from my perspective, it is happening for a very simple reason, that the largest and fastest industry in the United States, the healthcare industry, again, largest and fastest growing, it's hard to wrap your head around.
00:12:11.000Every lever of that industry makes more money when kids are sicker and loses money when they learn metabolically healthy habits.
00:12:17.000The insurance industry, through the 15% medical loss ratio, they can only take their 15%.
00:12:21.000They have an incentive for costs to go up because they can raise premiums to get their 15%.
00:12:26.000So they actually want people to be sicker.
00:12:28.000Hospitals make money on interventions.
00:12:30.000Pharma has created the greatest- I was trying to figure this out at one point because I was trying to meet with insurance executives and say, look, I can show you that these particular medical interventions, certain of the vaccines were actually causing higher costs in the long run.
00:12:49.000And that the insurance companies were incentivizing people to take them.
00:12:54.000And I went to them with data and an insurance executive said to me, listen, the truth, because I thought naively that And insurance companies would make more money if their clients were healthier.
00:13:36.000And he said, well, if you're Lloyds of London and you insure against shipwrecks, is it better for you if there's one shipwreck a year or is it better for you if there's 500 shipwrecks a year?
00:14:29.000Insurance companies, hospitals make more money on interventions.
00:14:32.000They make more money when kids are chronically ill coming in again and again and again for interventions, eventually leading like my mom and the majority of other Americans to something seriously life-threatening.
00:14:43.000Pharmaceutical companies have created the greatest profit-maximizing engine in human history, which is chronic disease.
00:14:51.000Chronic diseases, as you point out regularly, are just a beautiful invention economically because the person stays sick for their lives.
00:14:59.000They don't die, but they live a much more tortured, much more depressed, much more infertile life, racking up many comorbidities.
00:15:06.000When a mom at 70 years old was on five medications before a cancer diagnosis, her primary care provider said she was healthy.
00:15:12.000She was on five medications less than the average 70-year-old, and she was actually complimented by her doctor.
00:15:18.000So this idea, right, it's beautiful that you just rack up the chronic conditions.
00:15:24.000And unfortunately, the dynamic, and this is not emotional.
00:15:29.000This is just a plain statement of economic fact.
00:15:32.000The best possible thing economically for the pharmaceutical industry is for a kid to get metabolically unhealthy and get metabolically unhealthy early.
00:15:40.000Because then you've got them, you know, they're popping out statins like crazy now in high schools.
00:15:46.000They're popping out Adderall like crazy.
00:15:48.000Now, of course, the American Academy of Pediatrics, we can get more into this, but the American Academy of Pediatrics is aggressively saying that Ozipic needs to be the frontline defense for 12-year-olds, that not after dietary...
00:15:58.000That is a criminal organization, the American Academy of Pediatrics, because doctors actually believe them, so they're extremely dangerous, and the doctors don't know that they just work for the pharmaceutical companies, and they work for the food industry.
00:16:41.000So these groups are going to play pharma subsidiaries.
00:16:46.000That'd be fine, I guess, but the problem is they have statutory authority in the United States, quasi-governmental authority to make the standard of care.
00:16:55.000So if you're a doctor and you go against the recommendation of the American Academy of Pediatrics, you could lose your license.
00:17:01.000If you go against the guidance of the American Diabetes Association, you could lose your license.
00:17:05.000As Robert Lustig, a former hormone disorder leader at UCSF, has pointed out, the American Diabetes Association until 2018 did not have dietary recommendations whatsoever for diabetics as long as they took their medications.
00:17:18.000They said you can continue eating as much sugar as you want as long as you took your medications up until 2018 when they were ashamed to adjust that slightly.
00:17:26.000So these groups fundamentally are organisms of pharma, which are fundamentally incentivized for more people to get diabetes, for more people to get heart disease, for more people to become obese, for more kids to be sick.
00:17:42.000That's just a raw statement of economic fact.
00:17:44.000And the thing we need to unwind, and I know you're going to unwind, is these groups cannot be trusted to create the standard of care.
00:17:51.000That is why, right, the first-line defense for chronic conditions for kids is a prescription pad.
00:17:58.000It's not getting that kid on a—or incentivizing— Or using the $4.5 trillion we spend on healthcare to actually incentivize that kid to exercise, to fix our broken food system that's jamming poison down that kid's throat and destroying their microbiome and leading an average kid to have a 65% of their diet ultra-processed food.
00:18:19.000The American Academy of Pediatrics is not speaking out about that.
00:18:22.000They're not speaking out about the rise of ultra-processed food and, frankly, the poisoning, and I would actually call it genocide of our younger generation.
00:18:31.000Denouncing Coke, when I worked for Coke 12 years ago to rig the food stamp program to make Coke the number one item bought on food stamps, SNAP, the program the 15% of lower income Americans depend on.
00:18:44.000There was not a word from the American Academy of Pediatrics on that.
00:18:48.000But now, because their main funder, or one of them, Is Novo Nordics, the most valuable company in Europe, a Danish company that is the maker of Ozempic, the weight loss cure, because they funded the American Academy of Pediatrics, they've now said again, and I can't stress this enough, the first line defense, a weekly injection for life.
00:19:10.000You are not supposed to go off of Ozempic.
00:19:20.000They are jamming them into an injection for the rest of their life.
00:19:25.000An injection that was approved based on a 68-week study that did not take into account muscle mass, which is getting depleted by this drug.
00:19:33.000A study where the panel that approved it at the FDA was paid by Novo Nordic itself.
00:19:37.000A study that with pharma as the top funder of news ads has been unquestioned on the mainstream news.
00:19:43.000This is what I helped do and this is what's happening.
00:19:48.000Pharma and the health care industry is the top funder of politicians, the top funder of the media, the top funder of med schools, the top funder of research, the top funder of civil rights groups, the top funder of every single group that we trust.
00:20:02.000Pharma funds and that that was my big takeaway from working with them and what I'm trying to unwind.
00:20:06.000And frankly, as you know, these groups just hide in complexity.
00:20:11.000They hide in the cocktail parties with their IRS friends.
00:20:15.000And there's just ways and all these levers to what leaves the IRS saying food isn't medicine.
00:20:22.000Well, talk about NAACP and Oprah Winfrey because you talked about genocide.
00:20:28.000During COVID, black Americans were the highest demographic in the world of people who died from COVID. And blacks in Africa were dying at one-tenth to one-two-hundredth the level of American blacks.
00:20:43.000Blacks in Haiti, one-two-hundredth the level of American blacks.
00:20:47.000Because although they're starving, they don't have chronic disease.
00:20:50.000But today, you know, Black Americans suffer more from diabetes, more from cardiac illnesses, more from obesity and chronic disease than any other demographic because so many Blacks are living in food deserts and they can't afford to go to Whole Foods.
00:21:07.000As you pointed out, poor Americans live 15 years less than Shorter lives than rich Americans.
00:21:15.000We're literally poisoning them to death and giving them these miserable, tortured lives of being devastated by chronic disease.
00:21:25.000And because of that, they had the highest death rate from COVID because people who died from COVID, according to CDC, The Americans who died from COVID had an average of 3.8 chronic disease.
00:21:37.000That's why we have the highest, one of the reasons we have the highest COVID death rate on earth of any country.
00:22:16.000So talk about the role of the NAACP and Oprah Winfrey, who has tried to get us all healthy at one point.
00:22:23.000So sitting in the room with farm and food companies, these are not very impressive people, and it's not that difficult to rig the political hot topics that animate both the left and the right.
00:22:32.000And time and time again, social justice issues and hot button issues on the left and the right are weaponized.
00:22:39.000To keep us sick, to keep us addicted, to keep us in fear is rig our dopamine, which is very profitable.
00:22:44.000So we at the food companies rigged an idea on the left and literally went into the NAACP, paid them millions of dollars.
00:22:52.000The American Beverage Association and soda companies paid the NAACP about 11 years ago, millions of dollars.
00:22:58.000And we said, you know, they're taking away a Coke from poor kids.
00:23:02.000They're going to, you know, there's a bipartisan effort to not have our Low-income nutrition program, subsidized sugar water.
00:23:33.000Coke lobbies to keep food stamps spending low.
00:23:36.000And because they lobby to have what is 75% of food stamps go to ultra-processed food.
00:23:42.000And then they hired thousands of scientists from the tobacco companies and literally rigged this ultra-processed food to be addictive.
00:23:50.000Literally food companies are one of the greatest employers of scientists in the world.
00:23:54.000We have the smartest minds in science working to make that ultra-processed food addictive.
00:23:58.000That's why ultra-processed food, one reason it's so terrible, is because these are science experiments to hijack our evolution, to hijack metabolism.
00:24:06.000So we've slotted lower income people into where that's all they can afford, where they get addicted to it.
00:24:11.000And we effectively have an addiction crisis at the lower income and higher income levels.
00:24:16.000We are exhibiting all the signs of this, I believe, societal addiction and denial with the fact that we've gotten addicted to these drugs.
00:24:25.000Again, it's just weaponizing the core items.
00:24:31.000I would just say real quick, once we've weaponized on the left, we go to the right.
00:24:35.000So we go to think tanks on the right and we say taking away coke is nanny state.
00:24:39.000So the groups in the think tanks that are pay to play on the right are saying that it's a nanny state operation to overregulate and take away the coke.
00:24:47.000What's being lost in debate is it's not the free market when the system's been rigged.
00:24:53.000It's not the free market when the pharma industry pays five times more than the oil industry on lobbying and rigging the system, and then pay think tanks on the right to say it's over-regulation to even ask a question about that.
00:25:04.000So you've got just the hot topics on the left and the right being strategically pulled with money.
00:25:09.000And then you just have massive amounts- On the right, they're going to the Heritage Foundation.
00:25:15.000And then the American Council for Science and Health.
00:25:21.000I think that was one of the industries that over the years that I've ended up litigating against a lot.
00:25:29.000And then, you know, and then Harvard University, the medical school has been hijacked by the food industry.
00:25:34.000My sister, who's my hero, who was top of her class, Stanford Med School, head and neck surgeon.
00:25:40.000She quit 11 years after training when she was doing her third sinusitis surgery of the day and didn't know why the patient below her had so much inflammation that they had to get surgery.
00:25:51.000She did not learn in 11 years at Stanford Med School what causes inflammation.
00:25:54.000She only learned how to cut it out and she put down her scalpel and has become an advocate too.
00:25:59.000But when she traced the money, 50% of Stanford med school's funding somehow touches pharma.
00:26:04.000At Stanford med school, 90% of my sister's classes focused on pharmacology, not a single class on nutrition.
00:26:11.000Doctors are trained at Stanford, Casey says, from the first day of medical school.
00:26:18.000They are told that the American patients are lazy, that they're going to be addicted to their ultra-processed food, that they don't want to exercise.
00:26:24.000They're basically inoculated with this idea that their only job is to stand ready with the scalp and the prescription pad when these lazy American patients come to them, and it's inevitable that people are going to get sicker and sicker.
00:27:01.000If you were metabolically healthy, you had almost a 0% chance of dying of COVID. But you and Joe Rogan and others who got on our microphone and said maybe we should be exercising, maybe we should be eating healthy, leaked emails from the NIH say that you guys are enemy number one for saying that.
00:27:15.000Why is that such a disruptive message?
00:27:17.000Why is it a disruptive message that nine of the ten killers of Americans...
00:27:21.000Are fundamentally metabolic conditions that are entirely preventable and almost entirely reversible with food and exercise?
00:27:28.000Why do we have a world where it's anti-science when that's the case, which I don't think any doctor would even disagree with when pushed, that the only scientific intervention is a shot in this chronic disease because it's profitable?
00:27:41.000And that's just the point I'm really trying to make.
00:27:43.000There is a world where, and Europe does this, quite frankly, a lot more.
00:27:47.000If you're diabetic, In Europe, you actually get a subsidized keto diet.
00:27:56.000My mom wanted to meet her grandchildren.
00:27:58.000Fathers who are chronically getting heart disease want to walk their daughter down the aisle.
00:28:02.000Americans don't want this, but that's trained to doctors, this cynicism about the American patient, which is, again, very convenient for the system.
00:28:11.000I read that there's something like 1,600 food chemicals in our foods that are banned in Europe and Japan and other countries.
00:28:23.000Recently, the CEO of Kellogg said that it's a great thing for the country and his company that Americans struggle with inflation are now eating cereal for dinner.
00:28:34.000Kellogg's is running a national ad on children's television where a family is sitting around a table about to have chicken, and Tony the Tiger and Toucan Sam pop out of the closet and say, give that chicken a rest.
00:28:46.000Let's have Froot Loops for dinner tonight, and everyone celebrates.
00:28:49.000Fruit Loops have neurotoxins that Kellogg in Europe has actually admitted are neurotoxins that they do not include in any other country that are being marketed to kids and in the most popular cereals today.
00:29:11.000Joe Hogan tweeted a year ago something I did on this and the NIH and Tufts got really mad.
00:29:17.000But the NIH came out with guidance saying that dozens of cereals were recommended and that Lucky Charms were healthier than pasture-raised beef and that Honey Nut Cheerios were healthier than eggs.
00:29:30.000Why that happens in working for the food companies, you said it.
00:29:34.000Harvard, Tufts, these elite academic institutions, they are nothing more than public relations entities, I believe, particularly when it comes to pharma research and for nutrition research.
00:29:44.000The food industries pay these schools.
00:29:47.000They also get grants to the NIH. They can put the NIH seal on.
00:29:51.000They say Lucky Charms were healthier than eggs.
00:29:53.000And then those studies are taken to Congress to confuse the issue on nutrition guidelines, and they're taken to school boards to say that you can just stock the cereal with the neurotoxins in it instead of eggs.
00:30:36.000So when I started seeing all these kids now appearing suddenly with autism, which I'd never heard of as a kid, I was raised on the spear tip of the movement for rights for people with intellectual disabilities.
00:30:50.000I worked in Special Olympics from before it was founded, from when it was still Camp Shriver.
00:31:07.000And then suddenly they started appearing in the mid-1990s.
00:31:10.000And then now we went from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 34.
00:31:14.000We saw food allergies suddenly appear at the same time.
00:31:18.000I never knew anybody with a peanut allergy or a And they're in every classroom now.
00:31:23.000Autoimmune diseases like rheumatoid arthritis, juvenile diabetes, ADD, all these neurological diseases suddenly just exploded in the mid-90s.
00:31:31.000And pediatricians, about 50% of the typical pediatrician's office funding comes from the vaccines.
00:32:05.000And that makes up a huge part of their, and they're incentivized by the insurance companies.
00:32:11.000They're given huge bonuses if they make sure that every kid is vaccinated.
00:32:16.000And I have to think that, you know, I don't want to say pediatricians are mercenary because I think almost all pediatricians get into that job because they love children and they want to help them.
00:32:28.000But they're so blind to what's happening to this generation of kids and none of them seem to ask the basic questions that I was asking.
00:32:36.000What the heck is happening to our children?
00:32:39.000And really trying to figure it out and make people healthy.
00:32:45.000Well, doctors are getting, I think, screwed in this deal, too.
00:32:47.000I mean, they have the highest burnout rate and highest suicide rate of any profession.
00:32:51.000And missionaries aren't committing suicide at epidemic rates.
00:32:54.000I think the problem is the US system, one of the many dysfunctional parts about the US health system is we take the best and brightest who get into the system for the right reasons.
00:33:05.000Societal expectations, and then they realize, as my sister did, that they're in a system that's not making patients better.
00:33:13.000On the kids' front, I just want to ram home that point, and it's the reason I'm in this fight.
00:33:19.000Genocide's a strong word, but I don't know what else to call it.
00:33:22.000I mean, we have 25% of young adults having fatty liver disease, which is something a doctor would never see, the 33% prediabetes rate, the 50% overweight or obese.
00:34:06.000The mainstream media that's paid for 60% by pharma isn't talking about this, but everyone else is.
00:34:10.000And I think you have to agree this – and I think anyone thinking about this has to agree this is the biggest issue in the country.
00:34:17.000It's an existential issue, not only from a moral perspective and a human capital perspective where we have a generation right now of young people who are going to be diabetic and, frankly, infertile.
00:34:27.000Our literal reproductive systems are shutting down almost at a – almost – Just an alarming, almost genocidal rate.
00:34:35.000It's also an economic catastrophe because you're signing a check for that kid who has metabolic dysfunction to just explode costs with the healthcare system when you could take them off of the rolls.
00:34:45.000The only way we're going to curb healthcare costs is for people to be healthier.
00:34:48.000We talk like more access and more drugs and we're going to drug our way out of the problem.
00:35:43.000It's almost three times our military budget.
00:35:46.000And we're the sickest country in the world.
00:35:49.000So, you know, all these huge expenditures are just making us sicker and sicker and sicker because we're spending it on the wrong thing.
00:35:57.000We're spending it on the pills and the potions and the powders rather than on actually getting people healthy, building their immune systems.
00:36:06.000And we, you know, as I said, we have the highest death rate by far of any country from COVID. And nobody's answering that question.
00:36:39.000Fauci, if the president, if the head of Harvard Med School, if the head of the IRS stood at Congress and said, we must reduce ultra-processed food, we must shift spending from Band-Aids like Ozempic to food and exercise interventions,
00:36:57.000we can Filter Medicaid money to diabetic folks to incentivize them to exercise, to fix our food system, to invest in regenerative agriculture, to get control of the situation where we are fundamentally poisoning kids and then profiting our largest and fastest growing industry by pilling people and jabbing them for the rest of their lives.
00:37:17.000This is not a way to build a Can make that statement tomorrow, and there are very straightforward policies to pass.
00:37:29.000We, right now, the USDA recommends sugar to two-year-olds, up to 10% of the diet.
00:37:34.000The USDA recently came out with a study funded by food companies as well, saying a child can have 91% of their diet ultra-processed food and be perfectly healthy.
00:37:42.000The FDA is 75% funded by pharma and fundamentally an entity that's built for the growth of pharma.
00:37:49.000With the stroke of a pin, as you mentioned, we can cut pharma ads and stop being one of only two countries that allow pharma ads that not only allow that to impact consumers, but allow them to buy the news itself.
00:38:00.000The pharma ads and the 60% of the fact that we allow that is why CNN and MSNBC and major networks have no curiosity about why 33% of young adults have prediabetes.
00:38:11.000What could possibly be a larger story than that?
00:38:14.000It's why they censored any kind of dissent during COVID. Because it was all about promoting the pharmaceutical narrative without question.
00:38:22.000Nobody who questioned it, you know, Jay Bakhtaria and all these extraordinary scientists who were saying, wait a minute, slow down here, this is going in the wrong direction.
00:39:20.000We did a kayaking trip down the Yampa River and we were on rafts and we brought a bunch of Ute Indians and some Hopi Indians with us and they were all diabetic.
00:39:33.000And Mark, one of them went on a hike with us and he, one of the chiefs, and he was vomiting on the hike and then he was vomiting on the boat afterward.
00:39:40.000And Mark said to him, you know, you can cure your diabetes with diet.
00:39:46.000And he said to him, he said to Mark, well...