Kevin Jenkins, co-producer of Medical Racism and founder of the Urban Global Health Alliance, joins Jemele to discuss his journey to becoming a force to be reckoned with in the anti-racist, anti-big government movement. He also discusses his new venture, PROBLE, and how he is using his experience as a real estate developer to build a better future for his community and the country. He also talks about how he and his partner, Bobby Lee, have been able to unify the fight against Big Pharma, Big Tech, Big Education, Big Ideology, Big Government, and Big Money in order to create a healthier, more just, and more just world. Kevin also shares his vision for the future of his organization and what it means to be a good neighbor and a good friend. This episode is a must-listen for anyone who is interested in joining the movement to fight Big Government and big pharma. In order for us to be free, we must be free from Big Business and Big Tel, and we must fight Big Tel and Big Government. We must all be free of Big Tel. - Dr. James Waller, Dr. Henry Healy and Dr. Sinead Healy, The NITAC Consortium, Breaking the Back of the PCR Test Project, Breaking The Back of Big Pharma and the DNA Testing Project, and Breaking The Phosphor Test, and The DNA Testing Cartel, joins us in this episode to talk about how we can all work together to break the back of Big pharma, Big Tel's monopoly, Big Money, Big Colopoly, Big Big Telco, Big P, Big C, Big Prada, and the Big P.C., and Big Tech's Big P? and much more! Music: "Dr. James W. Cahill" - "In Need of a Better Future" by Kevin Jenkins (Music: "Racism" by Jeff Perla & Bobby Lee (feat. Kevin Jenkins) - "Good Morning America" by John Singleton Join us in the Fight Against Bigger Minds (featuring Bobby Lee and Bobby Hawley ( ) & Dr. Jay Sheeran ( ) - "Podcasts: "Goodbye Bigelows" is out on the road to a Bigger Future, Bigger Is Better, Biger Minds" by Bobby Lee ( ) and the NTEAC ( )
00:00:34.000Well, you know, Bobby, this has been a very, very interesting year and a half.
00:00:38.000Last year, sometime in Connecticut, Jamel Hawley and I were talking about medical freedom, you know, religious freedoms and medical exemptions that we were having a problem in New Jersey.
00:00:49.000He came to my house and started talking to me about what was going on.
00:00:52.000And he introduced me to you a couple of months ago.
00:00:55.000I think it might have been a month ago in Connecticut.
00:00:57.000And you gave this presentation about the impact.
00:01:01.000Well, as you know, Bobby, you know, we've known each other for a while.
00:01:04.000And, you know, I've been working on building Urban Global Health Alliance.
00:01:07.000And our single focus at Urban Global Health Alliance is to change the culture of health in this country, you know, through public policy, education, and of course, advocacy.
00:01:18.000And I think the work That we're really doing kind of spun out of the meeting that we had last year.
00:01:25.000I think when you were here fighting for medical exemptions, for New Jersey's to keep medical exemptions, I think because of all the work that you've been doing and I've been doing, it was a perfect synergy for me to take an institution by the throat, like the Urban Global Health Alliance, which we created after that meeting,
00:01:41.000to push it out into the world because we believed in the Black community and the white community that retail, advocacy, education, and public policy was the way to start to bring the debate together, like bring our communities together, white and Black together, to talk about how we can unify The fight against this tyranny that we see that's in full bloom now.
00:01:58.000So from last year to this year, I've been to 57 cities, 37 states.
00:02:03.000Last year to this year, I helped to co-produce the movie Medical Racism, which has been really I mean, people are responding to that all over the country, white and black, which I'm very, very happy about.
00:02:14.000And this year, we have moved beyond just giving speeches.
00:02:18.000One of the things I think people see me as giving speeches every day, but I'm building institutions every day that's going to drive Or give us the ability to move past the world that we live in today to build a bridge to a better future for us.
00:02:30.000That we can still have ownership in our lives.
00:02:52.000And we're working on breaking the backs of the PCR test.
00:02:55.000I think you might have heard something about that.
00:02:57.000This year, you know, I went on a national tour through the heartland where I was pretty amazed how awakened, not awoke, how awakened America is to this issue and how they're prepared and working together to fight back against the tyranny.
00:03:13.000I think one of the greatest tyrannies of our time, big pharma, big tech, The banking industry, the education cartel.
00:03:20.000I call it the education cartel for many, many reasons.
00:03:44.000I've ran several real estate operations where we did large commercial developments, creating jobs all through the city of New York and greater New Jersey.
00:03:51.000So I've taken all of that history and I've kind of put fire underneath me to really start to say, listen, in order for us to be free, in order for us to fight against the segregation of our time, in order for us to fight against Against bigotry of our time, we need to bring all those things together and start working to show people that if we work together, we can build that bridge to the future.
00:04:13.000So that's what I'm really excited about.
00:04:15.000So when people see me talking, it comes from a long history of understanding how to build communities, a long history of understanding how governments work, a long history of what institutional science we need to break away from what we see, I think, as some of the most horrible things That are happening to black communities all around the world.
00:04:37.000There's a poll that just came out, a national poll, that showed that the two demographics that are most, what they call vaccine applicants, are PhDs and African Americans.
00:04:58.000You're going to beat me up about that.
00:05:00.000But I got to tell you, you have to understand, Black Americans have a deeper understanding of these industries better than anyone, and in particular, Big Farmer, with all of the chronic illness in our community.
00:05:10.000What all of the experimentation that has happened in our community, what they understand that they don't ever need to or ever want to trust the system that has trapped them into the health system that they are now paying more attention to because of this COVID narrative that came out, that more Black Americans are dying of COVID Than anybody else.
00:05:31.000Not saying that we're the most chronically ill because of the things that we have accepted in our own lives, but the things that this industry has been perpetuating for the last 50 to 60 some odd years.
00:05:54.000And I'm very proud to say that Black Americans are really, really waking up, really doing more research, really turning off the TV, really going back and looking at the history, looking at Margaret Sanger, looking at eugenics, looking at Tuskegee, look what's happening in Africa.
00:09:14.000Can you have more meetings in our community?
00:09:16.000Can you show the documentary on medical racism?
00:09:19.000I've done that every city I've gone to, but not on this tour, because it was like we were just moving so fast.
00:09:24.000But I got to tell you, they're waking up in the heartland in the Midwest.
00:09:27.000When I come closer to the Northeast, I think people are starting to see it, in particular in the Black community, because you have Black leaders that are telling Black Americans, it's okay to take an experiment of biologic.
00:10:09.000There's a lot of people quietly That have been following us, Bobby, over the last year and a half and probably following you longer than me.
00:10:17.000So, but they understand and they trust us because we've been in the middle of this fight one way or another.
00:10:22.000You know, fighting for human rights, fighting for stronger communities, fighting for economic development in our community, building projects where people can have quality living, quality shopping, quality, you know, family time, building new kinds of schools that will allow us to build effective human capital for the future.
00:10:38.000But now they see it in full bloom that if they don't fight back now, they won't have anything available to them ever.
00:10:46.000They understand what the banking system is doing.
00:10:48.000They understand what the education cartel is doing.
00:10:51.000They understand that they don't trust the medical industry.
00:10:54.000And what the medical industry has been, the big pharma has been very clever of trying to position Black Americans that look like me to do it.
00:11:01.000So I always remind people that that's what happened during Margaret Sanger, during the eugenics era.
00:11:46.000And what she did was she actually went around the country convincing prominent Black Americans, prominent Black ministers, To convince Black people, Black women, Black families to abort their children, which are part of her master plan because she thought that Black people were not worthy to live the life that they were living.
00:12:08.000She thought that they should be wiped out, that Black people had no place on this earth, and that she was singular focus on Black white supremacy.
00:12:16.000That was the key, her key movement, white supremacy.
00:12:20.000Even Nazis came to talk to her about how could they do the same thing to the Jews in Germany.
00:12:25.000But what she did, and people don't understand this, and we're seeing it again, Black Americans that call themselves leaders in the church, Black Americans that call themselves political leaders, Black Americans that are pseudo-activists, Black Americans that are intellectual, pseudo-intellectuals, they have now been paid off To go into our communities and lie to the people.
00:12:48.000Basically trap them back into a system where they will live in perpetual slavery.
00:12:53.000When your own kind that looks like you, understanding the history that we have, understanding the troubles that we've had, understanding all of the health conditions that we have, that they will come into our community and tell people it's alright to give your body back over to the same people that have been trying to annihilate you.
00:13:19.000What happens when Bill de Blasio, the mayor of New York, says that unless you can show a vaccine passport, You cannot get into a shoe store.
00:13:31.000You cannot take public transportation.
00:13:55.000Well, I gotta tell you, I think the bow has broken.
00:13:59.000I think when he did that, I think he gave all of us that have been trying to educate and give power to people and give them the tools to fight back, I think he's helped us.
00:14:50.000If you go into a restaurant, the same thing that happened to us in the 60s, 60-some-odd years ago, couldn't go into a diner because we were unclean, couldn't drink at the faucet because we were unclean, couldn't swim in swimming pools because we were unclean, couldn't travel because we were unclean.
00:15:06.000We had to work through that system to get to where we are now to go in reverse.
00:15:11.000I think Black Americans, Latinos, Jewish Americans, Greek Americans, anyone that came from other parts of the world that had to live in this way, they're going to understand it.
00:15:23.000And it's going to give us more strength to beat them.
00:16:10.000He was a World War II veteran In World War II, Black Americans were not allowed to carry weapons.
00:16:17.000But he had gone to serve his country, and he had served in the Seabees in the Pacific, which is a construction brigade, which is where a lot of Blacks ended up.
00:16:27.000He came back, he was six foot four, very powerful man, very brilliant guy.
00:16:32.000And when I was a kid, I liked to go catching hawks down in southern Virginia.
00:16:38.000And he would drive me down there, and when we would go down there, we would go to places to eat lunch, and I would have to go in, order his lunch, and then I would bring it back out, and we would eat in the car.
00:16:51.000One day, he took me to Salon Village, which was a little shopping center in McLean, Virginia, and he asked me to go into a shoe store and buy him shoes.
00:17:03.000Because Blacks were not allowed into shoe stores.
00:17:07.000And they had to buy shoes estimating their size.
00:17:10.000They weren't allowed to try them on because they were regarded as disease carrying.
00:17:15.000And that's why so many Blacks, when I was a kid, had corns on their feet.
00:17:20.000They were famous for having chronic foot problems.
00:17:25.000And the reason for that is because they weren't allowed into stores to try on their shoes.
00:17:30.000They had to take whatever they bought.
00:17:31.000Whatever size it was, they had to keep it.
00:17:34.000And those laws, my state, a black man was not allowed to marry a white woman.
00:17:41.000They had to be buried in a black cemetery.
00:17:43.000They were identified by race on their birth certificate, their death certificate.
00:17:48.000They weren't allowed to drink at drinking fountains.
00:17:51.000They had their own public parks, et cetera, and transportation.
00:18:04.000You know, one of the things, Bobby, I've been very careful because over the last several years, I've seen the term Jim Crow.
00:18:11.000I've seen the word systemic racism, structural racism be manipulated by a group of people that I don't believe care about Black Americans at all.
00:18:20.000That's why this whole race narrative is so scary to me, because it's not about that.
00:18:24.000But if you want to put it in those terms, Jim Crow was just about that.
00:18:45.000And because Jim Crow emerged on us, they destroyed all of that through Tulsa, through New Jersey, through Virginia.
00:18:53.000Everywhere we built black communities that were strong and investing in a community and investing in the future of America, they destroyed that because they saw us as the economic engine for their wealth.
00:19:05.000Because remember, in the South, you know, they weren't trained to do anything.
00:19:08.000The slave ran the whole house, ran everything.
00:19:10.000So when we left and we started building a future for ourselves after Reconstruction, during Reconstruction, the white person at that time in the South, what did they want?
00:19:20.000They said, no, we can't have that because we can't take care of ourselves.
00:19:23.000They have to come back here basically and take care of us.
00:19:26.000And we want this Jim Crow to take over and create policies that did what?
00:19:31.000Those policies eviscerated the Black community.
00:19:34.000Based on all the things you just said, but it's deeper than that.
00:19:40.000It happened everywhere where we lived and where we worked.
00:19:43.000We could not go in to do the things that were necessary to protect our health, to protect our children, to protect our business, to protect the future of our group.
00:19:55.000All of these forces now, they're students of that history.
00:19:59.000So what they're going to do is not only are they going to trap us into poverty, but they're going to eviscerate what we look like in the future.
00:20:06.000What does my grandson life looks like in the future?
00:20:10.000What does my great-great-great-grandson life looks like in the future?
00:20:13.000So I always try to tell people, understand the history, deeply understand the history, but understand where we're going now.
00:20:31.000It's a universal issue, and that's what I'm trying to echo out there now.
00:20:35.000You know, I think it's good that we focus on justice and on race, but I have this very uncomfortable feeling that this is not about bringing people together.
00:20:46.000It's about dividing people so that we can focus on the differences between ourselves, the old bourbon strategy.
00:20:56.000And we're not looking at what Bill Gates is doing and Mark Zuckerberg and Mike Bloomberg and the people who run these networks who control all the media in our country We're now making themselves billionaires by impoverishing the rest of us.
00:22:35.000So when people start talking to me about race, I find it very interesting.
00:22:39.000I'm like, well, why are we talking about race when we should be looking at our health conditions in our own community and taking control over that?
00:22:45.000We should be looking at how to create better schools and better children, educating our children so they can participate in this emerging market.
00:22:52.000Why is our government who set policies We're creating a narrative that somebody out there is doing something harmful to us when we just had a Black president.
00:25:32.000And when I say that, people say, Kevin, that's not true.
00:25:34.000I say, well, show me one Black minister right now in your inner city that has come out and said, something is wrong with this.
00:25:41.000And so when I challenge the Black church, because I've invested in the Black church, I've challenged the Black church because I'm a part of the Black church.
00:25:48.000I've challenged the Black church because I understand Professor Cohn's theology, the liberating theology of Jesus Christ.
00:26:03.000So the history is right there and is real for me.
00:26:06.000So from an economic perspective, from a social perspective, from a community development perspective, from a business perspective, I've seen all of it.
00:26:14.000If we don't start to push back in a very aggressive way, we will lose everything that we even think we attain.
00:26:21.000And that's where I'm at right now, Bob.
00:26:23.000Kevin, thank you so much for joining us.
00:26:25.000Please tell our audience how they can support you and what you're doing and what you're up to now, how they can come and see you when you travel.
00:26:35.000I've been all over the country, but you can go to our website, Urban Global Health Alliance, and support us because we definitely need your support.
00:26:41.000Last year when we started, we started with a nickel and we have people now calling and giving us support every day.
00:26:47.000And so this is a very arduous project that we're working on because we're fully committed to it.
00:26:51.000So if you can contribute to us at urbanglobalhealthalliance.com, we would greatly appreciate it because we need it.
00:27:12.000And we're putting on panel discussions with prominent doctors, Prominent lawyers, constitutional lawyers, prominent leaders in their community.
00:27:20.000To educate Black Americans about what's at their doorstep, what medical apartheid is, the new discrimination, the new segregation, you know, and what COVID is getting ready to do to our lives.
00:27:32.000When medical racism, when we did the documentary, now we're getting ready to go into all of these cities and have a bigger conversation that they have not had.
00:27:40.000So I've been very, very blessed to be able to do that.
00:27:42.000At Urban Global Health Alliance, we work every day, 24 hours a day, Retail, retail, retail, retail.
00:27:50.000Because we realized that if we didn't inject ourselves right in the middle of those communities, right, nobody would be listening to us.