RFK Jr. The Defender - Militarized Healthcare with Sasha Latypova

00:00:00.000 Hey, everybody.

00:00:00.000 I'm really happy that we have a return guest today.

00:00:04.000 Sasha Latipova is a former pharmaceutical R&D executive. 0.51

00:00:09.000 She worked in the industry for 25 years and ultimately owned and managed several contract research organizations, working on clinical trials for more than 60 pharmaceutical companies, including Pfizer, AstraZeneca, J&J, GSK, Novartis, and many others.

00:00:28.000 Laipova worked many years in cardiovascular safety assessments and interacted with the FDA and other regulatory agencies on these matters on behalf of her clients as part of the FDA cardiovascular safety research consortium.

00:00:47.000 Sasha sold her companies and retired from the industry before the pandemic.

00:00:53.000 And Sasha has been speaking out on COVID and the mRNA vaccines and related matters since early 2021 as an independent researcher.

00:01:03.000 I'm going to say this to our reader.

00:01:05.000 What you're going to hear today is immensely important, and it puts a new dimension on the corruption that has occurred and really what I would call a coup d'etat against democracy by forces that include not only the medical cartel, but our military and intelligence and it puts a new dimension on the corruption that has occurred and And Sasha has done an incredible job of going into the weeds and documenting exactly how they got away with what they've gotten away with.

00:01:35.000 And this is huge fraud that they have pulled off that has gulled virtually the entire regulatory community, physicians and the public.

00:01:45.000 I want to say this at the outset.

00:01:47.000 Sasha does not have a scientific or medical title.

00:01:51.000 She's an MBA, but she brings a special expertise.

00:01:57.000 She has a niche expertise, which is understanding the regulatory protocols and process that govern clinical trials.

00:02:05.000 She was in charge of compliance for over 60 clinical trials.

00:02:11.000 So she knows what the regulatory hurdles that are normal and that businesses have to comply with if they're going to bring a product, a drug or a vaccine to market.

00:02:24.000 And during the early part of 2021, she began noticing some gaps in that process, let's say, and some irregularities about the way that the vaccines were brought to market.

00:02:37.000 And that caused her to do freedom of information requests and to really figure out what was going on.

00:02:44.000 And the fraud that she uncovered is monumental.

00:02:47.000 So I'm really gonna try to stop talking and get Sasha to explain as she does incredibly, articulately, eloquently, and clearly exactly what happens.

00:02:59.000 So welcome, Sasha.

00:03:00.000 One thing I want to say is the last time we had you here, you look like you're in a bunker now.

00:03:07.000 The last time you were in a very luxurious house with a beautiful oil painting behind you of Daniel and the Lion's Den, which I just loved.

00:03:15.000 And I asked you about it and you said that it was your painting.

00:03:18.000 And I looked you up and your artwork is incredible.

00:03:22.000 So you're a person of many, many talents.

00:03:25.000 I don't know where you are today, but you look good, the light looks good, but the background is not as great as it was when we saw you in your home.

00:03:32.000 Yes, thank you.

00:03:33.000 Yes, I am actually in a very luxurious place.

00:03:37.000 It's just the lighting here is set up in such that, you know, It throws the background in the dark.

00:03:44.000 But yeah, not in the same place where Daniel is right now.

00:03:48.000 And it's my favorite painting, I think.

00:03:50.000 I love it.

00:03:51.000 I love the way it turned out.

00:03:53.000 And I love what it told me when I was doing it.

00:03:56.000 So I'm keeping that message.

00:03:59.000 You must feel like Daniel in the lion's den some days when you wake up.

00:04:04.000 Yes.

00:04:05.000 Except the lions are trying to eat you.

00:04:07.000 No, they're not.

00:04:08.000 So the message of that painting is that, first of all, God's design is perfect.

00:04:15.000 Absolutely perfect.

00:04:16.000 I wish more people understood it.

00:04:18.000 And it has to do with both the truth and the human body and everything that has been created in the universe.

00:04:23.000 You cannot improve on the truth and you cannot improve...

00:04:27.000 On the design of the human body or the cells or the DNA. And no matter what these fear mongers are telling you about the gain of function and all that nonsense, just understand that that's fear mongering and bluff.

00:04:40.000 They cannot overcome what God created.

00:04:43.000 And that's why that story about the Daniel is told that way.

00:04:47.000 And if you understand it, then you know that there is nothing to be afraid of.

00:04:51.000 So that was the message that that painting told me when I was making it.

00:04:55.000 And well, so that's sort of the philosophical underpinnings of all of this.

00:05:03.000 But yeah, so coming back to the criminals, you know, let's talk about the criminal organization.

00:05:12.000 You're correct.

00:05:12.000 When I started looking into this in early 2020, You know, later in 2021, when they started rolling out the so-called vaccines, I was still naive and under assumption, like most of my colleagues, that, you know, these were pharmaceuticals and the FDA was regulating them and the CDC was supposed to be monitoring the safety signals, but somehow they missed them.

00:05:37.000 Okay, and a lot of people are still in that camp and trying to get CDC to pay attention to the things that it was never going to and has no mandate to pay attention to, and in fact has the opposite mandate.

00:05:48.000 And I'll explain how.

00:05:50.000 And so that was the problem.

00:05:53.000 So at the beginning, I was looking at the VAERS database of CDC and looking at the adverse events and deaths, especially serious adverse events and deaths associated with the so-called vaccines by lot numbers.

00:06:07.000 And that was the unique view because I understood how they're made.

00:06:10.000 They're supposed to be made in the lots and lots have numbers and they're tracked.

00:06:14.000 And in any normal safety surveillance system, this is what you do.

00:06:18.000 You identify some kind of a problem, a clustering of deaths.

00:06:22.000 You look up the lot numbers.

00:06:23.000 You immediately recall them.

00:06:25.000 And that's done by the manufacturer.

00:06:27.000 All the manufacturers have Those systems of surveillance.

00:06:31.000 And in fact, you know, you get letters from your car dealers all the time saying, oh, this part was recalled or whatever.

00:06:36.000 But that's because the same safety surveillance system was triggered somehow.

00:06:41.000 And they figured out that, okay, this part number needs to be taken off the marketplace.

00:06:45.000 The same happens with pharmaceuticals.

00:06:47.000 A vast majority of recalls of pharmaceuticals or food, you know, salad with salmonella, are recalled by the manufacturers all over the United States.

00:06:56.000 Yet this never happened with these products.

00:06:59.000 In fact, there was one lot identified in Orange County, California for Moderna by Orange County, California Health Department on January 18th, 2021, as causing, they were calling, abnormal number of allergic reactions.

00:07:14.000 And nothing happened.

00:07:16.000 So they flagged it, but there was no action taken.

00:07:19.000 The lot was being continued to be distributed all over the United States, ultimately caused something like 65 deaths and over 3000 adverse events, serious adverse events.

00:07:31.000 And after something like this happens, what I need people to understand, you don't have to continue going and saying, oh, I need to demonstrate excess mortality associated with this product.

00:07:42.000 No, you don't.

00:07:43.000 When something like this happened that I just described, it should be considered intentional murder.

00:07:49.000 And those responsible should be prosecuted.

00:07:52.000 At that point, the law enforcement needs to be triggered into action to go after those responsible who are now responsible for 65 dead people all over the United States.

00:08:02.000 Let me add, and I'm going to try not to interrupt you, but let me just add one other thing that you may have just neglected to say, but there have been surveys of which lots are injuring people.

00:08:16.000 And my understanding is that something like 90% of the injuries are the result of one or two or three or four, you know, a very, very small number of lots, maybe 5% of the lots.

00:08:32.000 That was early data point, which is still true based on the raw output from VAERS database.

00:08:43.000 Well, in reality, we also found is that CDC also manipulates the data through their contractors.

00:08:50.000 So they manipulate the data very heavily so that it looks this way.

00:08:54.000 In reality, actually, the percentage is something like, I would say, 30% of the lots are accountable for 90% of the deaths.

00:09:03.000 But because of data manipulation that CDC does, it looks more like 5% of the lots.

00:09:08.000 Yeah, it's neither here nor there.

00:09:10.000 We still see that there is a huge signal triggered.

00:09:13.000 There is huge signal associated.

00:09:14.000 Even if, you know, somebody just took a raw output and said, oh, look, there are 5% of the loads.

00:09:20.000 Let's look at them more closely.

00:09:21.000 Let's recall them.

00:09:22.000 The first thing to do is stop and recall.

00:09:24.000 If this is done in the interest of public safety by everyone involved, the government, HHS, FDA, CDC, all the manufacturers, you know, Pfizer, their subcontractors, anyone has those systems in place.

00:09:37.000 Anyone can detect it.

00:09:39.000 And once they detect it, the first thing to do is stop and recall.

00:09:42.000 None of this ever happened in the United States.

00:09:45.000 It happened in Japan for a couple of months of Moderna, but it never happened in the United States.

00:09:52.000 And even after they flagged it, they continued selling it and they killed 65 people.

00:09:58.000 So to me, that was enough.

00:10:01.000 I didn't need to continue going and screaming at CDC, please look at my data.

00:10:07.000 I knew that they were criminals at that point, and they were doing it intentionally.

00:10:11.000 So I started looking as to, do I have a confirmation that these products are not good manufacturing practice compliance?

00:10:17.000 And yes, we do.

00:10:18.000 We have direct documents from European Medicines Agency stating that Pfizer was not in compliance with good manufacturing practices at the time of authorization or conditional marketing approval actually in Europe.

00:10:31.000 They were not in compliance and that was regulatory objection number one, which is a major red flag, formal objection by the regulator to the approval.

00:10:40.000 And that should have been resolved before anything was being shipped.

00:10:44.000 Yet, two weeks after that notice was issued, commercial lots of Pfizer, which had been manufactured long before that opinion was issued, got shipped in the U.S. and internationally, violating every import-export rule, all other GMP compliance rules.

00:11:02.000 Again, after that You should say it's completely intentional, not only in the US, internationally.

00:11:10.000 Again, nothing happens.

00:11:12.000 I'm still confused as to why nothing happens.

00:11:16.000 Everybody on our side is asking that question.

00:11:19.000 Why is there no action?

00:11:20.000 Why there's no action by the courts?

00:11:22.000 We can't even bring them on charges for any of these very flagrant violations.

00:11:28.000 And then ultimately, I ran into this brilliant analysis by my colleague now saying, Catherine Watt, who writes Bailiwick News Substack, and she's compiled what I would say an encyclopedia of law reference and law reference on this topic of how the U.S. government over time created this pseudo-legal structure.

00:11:49.000 I'm not saying any of this is lawful.

00:11:51.000 This is completely unconstitutional, what I'm just going to describe.

00:11:54.000 But they made it legal on paper.

00:11:56.000 And that's what, you know, Catherine has tracked.

00:11:59.000 And once I read it, the universe started making sense to me again because this is what they've done.

00:12:04.000 This is the crime that they're committing as we speak.

00:12:07.000 So what they put in place, and this has been done over time, so it shows a lot of pre-planning and premeditation.

00:12:14.000 They've created a framework of pseudo-legal laws that they're using.

00:12:19.000 And first of them is, well, there are several statutes, Six key statutes that she describes, but I'm going to speak about just a few of them here.

00:12:30.000 The emergency use authorization law, that's what's being used here in the US. It's a little bit different outside of US, but let's focus on the US. It was put in place in 1997 under Clinton, and it actually authorizes FDA to put drugs or devices on the market without proper testing.

00:12:50.000 Or authorized and unauthorized use of a device or drug.

00:12:55.000 And that was initially explained as, you know, very limited niche kind of application for desperate cases, for terminal cancer, for something that very, very critical criteria for EUA is that there is no other treatment option.

00:13:09.000 So that explains the suppression of hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, which were perfectly workable, safe, and long-used medications that were showing a lot of promise.

00:13:20.000 And yes, we know now, definitively, they're quite effective at treating COVID. And that is because, just to elucidate this for our listeners, the EUA provision regulation that was promulgated by the Clinton administration had safeguards in it.

00:13:38.000 And it said, yes, you can take a medication that has no approval, And you can distribute it and approve it for use without clinical trials, without any safety or efficacy testing.

00:13:54.000 But you cannot do that if there is an existing drug that is approved for any purpose that is demonstrated to be effective against the target illness.

00:14:08.000 And so you can only use that EUA if no other drug or treatment exists.

00:14:15.000 So it was very important if they wanted to use that EUA for their vaccines, they needed to first discredit or destroy any drugs that actually were effective against COVID.

00:14:28.000 And very early on, they knew that hydroxychloroquine was effective against coronavirus because NIH did studies that showed it was it was devastatingly effective, both as a preventative and as a cure.

00:14:43.000 And they knew that.

00:14:45.000 And ivermectin was also devastatingly effective, but it would have killed their entire use of the emergency use authorization if there had been any acknowledgement that those drugs were.

00:14:58.000 So they had to suppress them.

00:15:00.000 So let me just give the punchline to what you're about to tell us.

00:15:06.000 Which is that essentially there were a series of laws put in place that allowed the military to take over distribution of vaccines and under a provision that does not allow any clinical trials and does not allow any safety testing.

00:15:26.000 And that essentially the safety testing that we did see, which was conducted by the pharmaceutical industry, was kabuki theater.

00:15:36.000 Put on for the public with no regulatory implications.

00:15:40.000 And that's why they were able to take all these shortcuts, because it was meaningless theater.

00:15:46.000 Now, I'm going to let you explain kind of the long version of that, but that's what people, you know, that's kind of where we're going.

00:15:54.000 Yes, exactly.

00:15:55.000 So it was, you know, a pretend authorization by a regulatory agency, FDA, that has no regulatory mandate to regulate countermeasures in the United States.

00:16:08.000 You know, remember the FDA mandate is to regulate interstate commerce of medical products and food, right?

00:16:15.000 So they are supposed to approve medical products, and these are not medical products, they're countermeasures.

00:16:21.000 So that legal framework that's being utilized here is essentially pretending that this is a health event and pretending that these are health products while using the laws that actually put them into a totally different space.

00:16:37.000 or pseudo-legally, I would say.

00:16:38.000 So in addition to the emergency use authorization, they're using another set of laws that are allowing them to contract under other transaction authorities.

00:16:48.000 So Department of Defense, and they're not just overseeing the distribution of vaccines, by the way, that was sold to the public also.

00:16:54.000 They're actually, the Department of Defense is fully in charge of the development of the clinical trials, of the execution of all this manufacturing and ordering of them and distributing the money and taking the possession of the delivered product and distributing it and owning it until it is injected into a person.

00:17:12.000 So they're using other transaction authority, which is a way for the government to contract.

00:17:19.000 Again, initially it was very narrowly defined, given authority to NASA to do it in the 60s.

00:17:24.000 Now 11 government agencies are using it and DoD is a particular frequent user.

00:17:31.000 Other transaction authority is called an OTA. And it was essentially designed to allow the Pentagon to quickly buy weapons and weapons systems without paying attention to any existing regulatory authorities.

00:17:49.000 What they've done is they've taken that authority and they've applied it to the vaccines.

00:17:55.000 So they're purchasing the vaccines under OTA as a demonstration product.

00:18:01.000 It's not a medical product.

00:18:02.000 So FDA has no authority over it.

00:18:05.000 CDC has no authority over it.

00:18:08.000 Military is actually manufacturing.

00:18:10.000 They farm this out to hundreds of military contractors to do the manufacturing, to do the distribution, to do every aspect of it.

00:18:19.000 And it's all a huge military operation.

00:18:22.000 And the involvement of the drug companies is kind of window dressing because the Pentagon did not want to say, did not want to put on the product.

00:18:32.000 This is a Pentagon made, Defense Department made product.

00:18:37.000 They essentially paid the pharmaceutical companies for their brand name.

00:18:42.000 So people would think they were getting something from Pfizer or Moderna.

00:18:46.000 But all of the back room and the distribution and factoring is done by the military.

00:18:53.000 And the pharmaceutical companies were brought in to put their name on it and then to pretend to do clinical trials, which have no legal significance.

00:19:03.000 Absolutely.

00:19:04.000 Yeah, that's exactly right.

00:19:05.000 So OTA allows them not only, you know, quickly order otherwise regulated products from regulated industry, private industry, without following the regulations.

00:19:14.000 So that's critical.

00:19:16.000 And that's why DOD loves it so much, because not only they can do that, they can also hide a lot of technology and IP from public, from each other, from other government branches.

00:19:27.000 So it's perfect for them.

00:19:29.000 And also they don't have to follow any federal procurement accounting rules.

00:19:33.000 So that's why their stated budget is $800 billion, but they can't find $8 trillion because they lost it and there's no accounting records for it.

00:19:44.000 So that's how they do it.

00:19:45.000 And they distribute humongous amounts of money through this and through their agency.

00:19:50.000 It's technically HHS agency, but it's called BARDA, Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority.

00:19:56.000 But BARDA kind of distributes the money.

00:19:58.000 And also, so they've all contracted.

00:20:02.000 So these contracts became available, over 400 of them, for all countermeasures, not just vaccines, but vaccines got the largest chunk of money.

00:20:11.000 So it's vaccines, therapeutics, diagnostics, even masks were included in that.

00:20:16.000 So they gave them a huge chunk of money.

00:20:19.000 The scope of work of these contracts, the primary scope of work, is large-scale manufacturing demonstration.

00:20:25.000 Demonstration meaning fake.

00:20:26.000 They also use words sometimes, prototypes.

00:20:29.000 Sometimes, you know, it's prototype, demo, countermeasure, large-scale manufacturing demonstration.

00:20:33.000 Those are typical scope of work in these projects.

00:20:36.000 And then they mention, you know, in a fluff language, they mention things like, oh, it's going to be subject to FDA rules and compliance.

00:20:43.000 But then they also have these scope definition clauses where it says specifically out of scope, And we're not paying for it, we're not ordering it, is preclinical, clinical development and manufacturing compliance.

00:20:56.000 So that should be understood very clearly by everyone.

00:21:00.000 Department of Defense gave humongous amounts of money to all these pharma companies for a demonstration, just a demonstration.

00:21:09.000 And if you knew that you're going to inject your child...

00:21:15.000 With a Department of Defense prototype ordered under OTA and emergency use authorized, would you do it?

00:21:23.000 I don't think so.

00:21:24.000 So that was the biggest lie that was sold to the public, that can't get injected with the safe, effective thing that manufactured by Pfizer, you know, a prestigious pharmaceutical company, which is also a felon, by the way, but...

00:21:37.000 People think that it's a pharma company.

00:21:40.000 Anyway, so that's how they did it.

00:21:41.000 And they can invoke all this structure under public health emergency and continue invoking it under public health emergency because this whole thing clicks into place when they announce public health emergency based on absolutely no data and no evidence that any emergency exists.

00:21:57.000 And they have been expanding it.

00:21:59.000 And we'll continue extending it as long as we allow them to because of this, because they need it in place so that they can continue implementing this structure.

00:22:10.000 When they operate under OTA, there is no quality control.

00:22:18.000 Because normally you would have quality control choke points.

00:22:22.000 In other words, the government regulates quality control at the factory.

00:22:26.000 And then again, in the distribution system, when you cross state lines, you have to show the lot number and you have to show that you complied with quality control and best manufacturing processes.

00:22:39.000 But now there is no...

00:22:41.000 Under OTA, there literally are no best management practices.

00:22:47.000 There are no best manufacturing processes.

00:22:51.000 And so we don't know what the ingredients are.

00:22:54.000 We don't know how it was manufactured.

00:22:57.000 We don't know where a lot of these were manufactured.

00:23:00.000 And we just know nothing about these processes.

00:23:02.000 Yes.

00:23:07.000 Yeah, that's accurate.

00:23:09.000 I even have suspicion that reading these documents, and this is an educated guess, that Pfizer, for example, also doesn't know exactly what's in those products because there are some indications, I'm not going to discuss this deeply right now, that Pfizer is also not necessarily knowing exactly what goes into what.

00:23:29.000 So there's a huge question mark as to whether there is mRNA in these products or no.

00:23:36.000 Sometimes there is.

00:23:37.000 I know some of the researchers found evidence of RNA, but it was not conforming to the specification that Pfizer described.

00:23:44.000 It was different lengths of mRNA, different strands of mRNA, and there were huge impurities, you know, a thousand times greater than limit.

00:23:53.000 There were impurities of DNA and all kinds of other toxic materials were found, such as metals, For example, very toxic metals and other large structures that are unexplained, but they're too large to be in an injectable product.

00:24:06.000 And that should be, again, basis for recall, any of this.

00:24:10.000 And so we don't know what exactly is in it, whether there is RNA, if there is RNA, what it's coding for, what it's not coding for.

00:24:18.000 Even when it's not coding for things, it has been designated, this RNA and small pieces of RNA have been designated as a biological weapon.

00:24:27.000 Since 1997, at least, I found a number of government reports, including a whole textbook by NIH that says so and has a whole chapter on this.

00:24:37.000 So we have these non-compliant biological materials distributed in these vials.

00:24:43.000 We don't know exactly what.

00:24:45.000 There are billions of vials.

00:24:45.000 They're all over the place as far as some may be blanks and some may be super toxic.

00:24:50.000 They're non-compliant.

00:24:51.000 We know for sure.

00:24:52.000 They're biological materials.

00:24:54.000 They have been designated as dual-use.

00:24:56.000 In fact, the contracts are saying they're dual-use civil and military application.

00:25:00.000 We have government reports describing them as a biological weapon, and the use of them is indistinguishable from use as a biological weapon.

00:25:07.000 So I have a question to our government.

00:25:09.000 What is it that they're exactly forcing on us?

00:25:12.000 And so somebody needs to start an investigation and address it.

00:25:16.000 But while we're doing an investigation, it should be stopped.

00:25:19.000 It should be stopped and recalled.

00:25:21.000 So that's my message.

00:25:23.000 Let me ask you this.

00:25:25.000 I know that BioNport, which is this crooked company that I'm very familiar with, had a monopoly on the smallpox vaccine and the anthrax vaccines, and they have this very corrupt relationship with Robert Cadillac.

00:25:42.000 Who runs BARDA. And BARDA runs the National Strategic Stockpile.

00:25:47.000 They buy all the countermeasures.

00:25:49.000 So he's looking at a multi-billion dollar budget that he can distribute to his friends.

00:25:54.000 And he gives most of the contracts to one company, Bio and Port, or Bio and Port, or BioPort.

00:26:02.000 BioPort, now it's called Emergent BioSolutions.

00:26:05.000 They re-name themselves.

00:26:07.000 Yeah.

00:26:07.000 And he used to be their business partner.

00:26:11.000 He was their employee.

00:26:13.000 He's given them faithfully for the entire time he's been in government.

00:26:17.000 He's been giving them these very lucrative monopolies over vaccines.

00:26:21.000 And their product was found to be substandard, had all kinds of impurities and very, very bad.

00:26:31.000 Nobody understood what was in it.

00:26:33.000 And they shipped it to Canada, as I recall, because they couldn't use it in the United States, so they gave it to the Canadians.

00:26:41.000 But the question I have is, how much of these vaccines are actually being manufactured by Pfizer and Moderna, and how much of them are going to military contractors like Immersion Biosolutions, which used to be called Bioport, Yeah.

00:27:00.000 So yes, there are hundreds of companies that are involved.

00:27:04.000 So Pfizer, Moderna, and Janssen have been advertised as sort of a front, right?

00:27:09.000 But in fact, there are hundreds and hundreds of both different vaccine manufacturers of different sizes and locations, also raw material suppliers and fill-finish companies, which is, you know, takes the product and then fills it into vials and does all the packaging and things like that.

00:27:28.000 So that's a network that had been established by the Department of Defense through various consortia.

00:27:34.000 So here specifically is chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear consortium is involved, which contains about 300 companies.

00:27:42.000 I'm not saying all of them are doing this, but a good chunk are involved.

00:27:47.000 And the whole thing, you know, people are saying, well, but how, you know, that means that all of these people, thousands of people are in on this conspiracy.

00:27:54.000 Actually, it doesn't require thousands of people to be in on the conspiracy.

00:27:58.000 It is so compartmentalized.

00:28:00.000 It's so split into small pieces.

00:28:03.000 And they did it immediately.

00:28:05.000 Well, normally, if you're doing something very, very novel as a manufacturer, you do everything from soup to nuts.

00:28:11.000 At the beginning.

00:28:12.000 And then you start outsourcing once you understand certain components of your product and you've defined inputs and outputs.

00:28:17.000 Here they did the opposite.

00:28:19.000 They went right away into huge scale, had broken into little pieces, everything.

00:28:24.000 And now you have this hundred companies making billions of vials.

00:28:29.000 So for example, drug substances made at Rentschler.

00:28:32.000 Ship to Andover or in others like Kalamazoo and they make a drug product and they ship it to Philfinish in Kansas.

00:28:41.000 And I actually interviewed some of the insiders on the manufacturing floor.

00:28:46.000 They have no idea what they're doing.

00:28:48.000 Stuff comes from somewhere, they mix it, send it somewhere else.

00:28:53.000 They don't know what's going on.

00:28:55.000 So that's why...

00:28:56.000 Both of them have to comply with best manufacturing practices.

00:29:02.000 Yeah, and oftentimes people working, first of all, so Moderna, for example, bragged that their entire Biologics manufacturing facility in Norwood, Massachusetts was built, by the way, in 2019, when they had no product to have a manufacturing facility for.

00:29:15.000 Yet, Anthony Fauci went and cut the ribbon, and everybody was super proud, and they said it's fully digital.

00:29:22.000 Well, you know what fully digital means before you have any products or designed anything?

00:29:26.000 Well, it means that there are no humans on the floor to ask questions.

00:29:30.000 Or to ask about compliance or to ask what the ingredients are.

00:29:34.000 And they frequently hire very inexperienced people and they don't train them.

00:29:39.000 And as Brooke Jackson found, oftentimes they don't even, they're not even aware that they're supposed to have a quality system, standard operating procedures, that they're supposed to be trained, that they're supposed to be signing off.

00:29:50.000 So they hire people who don't know it, they don't tell them.

00:29:54.000 And then, you know, they don't need to be on the conspiracy because they're not aware of the rules.

00:30:00.000 So that's how I'm telling everyone, when I say FDA or when I say Pfizer, I don't mean the thousands of people who work there.

00:30:07.000 I mean the leadership, general counsel, who are aware of the legal structure that's being utilized here, and in fact invoking it in their defense right now.

00:30:17.000 So that's what's going on.

00:30:19.000 One of the problems is they're trying to make billions and billions of units of this product in a three-month time period.

00:30:28.000 So they have to put in the orders.

00:30:30.000 You have to put the supply chain in place, have the bottles, have the glass, have the syringes, have all of these items.

00:30:39.000 And it seems like they had to put this manufacturing process in place earlier.

00:30:47.000 I mean, it's not something where you can go to the pharmaceutical industry and say to the pharmaceutical industry, stop making flu shots and start making COVID shots and they can produce billions overnight, right?

00:30:59.000 It's not that simple.

00:31:02.000 I mean, did the pharmaceutical industry have any part of this or how was it done?

00:31:07.000 Yeah, so they had some part in this.

00:31:10.000 So I have these contracts with DOD for COVID countermeasures go back to emerging biosolutions in 2012.

00:31:17.000 I'm sure they go to earlier than that, but that's the ones that I have.

00:31:22.000 And what appears to have happened is since at least that time, the Department of Defense was recruiting them through industry days.

00:31:30.000 And they still do them.

00:31:31.000 It's a public event.

00:31:32.000 So they would do this industry day, like a recruiting event.

00:31:36.000 They will invite them and say, oh, you can submit proposals for these kinds of grants.

00:31:40.000 And it was all focused at that time.

00:31:42.000 They were calling it pan influenza vaccine and that they need this, you know, manufacturing base.

00:31:49.000 It's a niche application that doesn't make sense for private manufacturers to invest in, but the government needs to help them out.

00:31:56.000 And here's the purpose of BARDA, to give grants and technical support and establish this kind of a network, which they did.

00:32:02.000 And it's a gigantic network.

00:32:04.000 I mean, they're saying niche, it's 50% of pharmaceutical industry money for R&D goes through this mechanism.

00:32:11.000 So how is this niche?

00:32:13.000 They're controlling the entire industry because it's single buyer buying 50%.

00:32:17.000 But anyway, so since then, they've established this gigantic network of manufacturers, ostensibly for pen influenza, They have exchanged IP throughout and manufacturing.

00:32:32.000 Because you can't just say, here, I need 10 billion doses of this completely new drug.

00:32:39.000 It's an extremely complex manufacturing system.

00:32:41.000 It's just as complex as making a new aircraft.

00:32:44.000 Or making a brand new type of a vehicle.

00:32:47.000 You know, it has as many parts and suppliers and procedures that you need to put in place.

00:32:52.000 Raw materials need to be available.

00:32:53.000 These are very expensive raw materials.

00:32:55.000 These DNA templates, you need to grow them in cells.

00:32:59.000 You know, so they fail frequently.

00:33:02.000 You know, you grow some batch and it fails.

00:33:04.000 So you have to do it again.

00:33:05.000 So somebody estimated just to produce what they claim to have produced for these RNA products, you need to make about a kilogram of DNA. As a template.

00:33:15.000 I mean, it's a staggering number.

00:33:18.000 You can't just make it overnight.

00:33:20.000 So, and I guarantee you they didn't.

00:33:23.000 Also, just even having these contracts in place for this amount of money, all signed in, like, the signatures begin in early February.

00:33:30.000 Well, that means that it was negotiated the year before.

00:33:33.000 Because you can't just walk into the room and sign a $10 billion contract like this.

00:33:38.000 So all of that indicates that they sold the public a bunch of fluff, a story about the Cinderella overnight success.

00:33:47.000 Whereas this was pre-planned, they made the manufacturing facilities, they established the relationships, they established the raw material suppliers, they put in place the contracts and relationships so that they can just turn it on when they wanted to.

00:34:01.000 And they called them all and they said, oh, stop working on your influenza models, switch over to COVID. That's what happened.

00:34:09.000 I mean, if you were to go to the automobile industry with a totally new product, which this is, nobody had ever done anything like this.

00:34:19.000 You have to manufacture this 100 degrees below zero or something.

00:34:26.000 The story keeps changing on that.

00:34:30.000 Nobody has a manufacturing facility that can do that.

00:34:33.000 What if you went Can you make 10 billion copies in three months?

00:34:43.000 Is it the same kind of thing?

00:34:45.000 Yeah, it's the same kind of thing.

00:34:47.000 They would tell you, I can't do that.

00:34:49.000 I don't even have raw materials for that thing to happen.

00:34:54.000 Not enough raw materials, not enough parking space, not enough staff, not enough production lines.

00:35:01.000 So that's why all of this story about, oh, Moderna made it in the weekend.

00:35:07.000 That's nonsense. 0.52

00:35:08.000 That's absolute nonsense.

00:35:10.000 So they had this all pre-planned.

00:35:12.000 The contracts show that the relationships go way back.

00:35:15.000 There are material transfer agreements between NIH and Moderna going to 2015.

00:35:20.000 There's all kinds of evidence that shows that this was pre-planned activity and the machinery was in place.

00:35:26.000 And it's all companies that people are not aware of, like Emergent Biosolutions.

00:35:31.000 Like ology, they call it ology.

00:35:33.000 It used to be called resilience, but it's basically government-owned biologics manufacturing facilities that they bought from pharma companies.

00:35:41.000 And now, you know, it gave them a gigantic amount of money to do this biologics manufacturing.

00:35:46.000 So all of this government-owned, DOD-owned, DoD managed through the defense contractor networks and with the same mechanisms that they use for weapons, and also with the same mechanisms of not following any regulations as they do for weapons.

00:36:03.000 There is one more thing.

00:36:04.000 So again, coming back to public health emergency, that's why they need it so desperately.

00:36:09.000 Public health emergency, essentially...

00:36:12.000 Let me ask you a question.

00:36:14.000 Oh, is this why they needed the public health emergency?

00:36:18.000 Yes, they needed this to...

00:36:20.000 Specifically, the public health emergency allows them to invoke these illegal laws that I just described, including other transactions authority, use of emergency, use of authorized countermeasures under public health emergency.

00:36:34.000 It does not constitute clinical investigation, which means it puts them outside of the FDA regulatory supervision.

00:36:43.000 And then other transaction authority allows them to order undisclosed prototypes.

00:36:47.000 In this word, undisclosed prototype, you can hide whatever you want, a tank, a missile, or a biological weapon.

00:36:54.000 And then, so what also happens under public health emergency is HHS secretary becomes de facto head of the government and a dictator.

00:37:03.000 Again, nobody really knows, but it was Alex Azar and now it's Javier Becerra.

00:37:08.000 Who deploys these things on the United States population, on every man, woman, and child here.

00:37:14.000 And he, in his sole capacity, or she, whoever succeeds them, decides, you know, the criteria for this deployment is their personal decision whether these particular things, countermeasure prototypes by the Department of Defense, may be effective.

00:37:31.000 That's it.

00:37:32.000 There's no other standard.

00:37:33.000 Okay.

00:37:35.000 Let me just clarify what you're saying.

00:37:38.000 Normally, you know, the protocols that you had to go through in your businesses, you would do, you know, you do a series of proposals, you design the clinical trials to make sure that they're going to show efficacy, that they're going to show safety.

00:37:54.000 You do those clinical trials for a number of years.

00:37:56.000 And then you go and show the results to FDA. FDA has to make determinations about safety and efficacy and has to make determinations that the product is going to avert more harm than it causes and the appropriate warnings and the side effects that you put on the manufacturer's inserts and all these thousand things that you have to do to get a product to market and get the inspections, etc.

00:38:23.000 Here, all of those are abolished.

00:38:26.000 And the only determination is that the Secretary of HHS decides in his head, with either some evidence or no evidence whatsoever, that the product may be effective.

00:38:43.000 That's it.

00:38:46.000 So, and even if the evidence then shows that it's not effective, if he can say, well, I still believe it's effective.

00:38:53.000 Absolutely.

00:38:56.000 Even if there's a mountain of evidence that says it's killing people, it's not effective, he can choose legally under his own decision making that That I'm going to believe this is effective no matter what the evidence says.

00:39:14.000 As long as I believe it's effective legally, I can essentially mandate it for all Americans. 0.99

00:39:21.000 Absolutely.

00:39:21.000 There is no stopping criteria.

00:39:23.000 He never has to reconsider the decision.

00:39:24.000 And since there is no criteria to begin with, well, whatever made him believe so can continue making him believe so.

00:39:32.000 And so that also explains why mainstream media, well, the huge propaganda campaign of fear and lies that mainstream media...

00:39:41.000 Pushed on the American public and global public in cahoots, obviously, with FDA and CDC and NIH. I mean, that explains it because they need to maintain this theatrical performance, pretending that there is no evidence, and so that the HHS secretary can continue his delusion and deployment of these unauthorized, non-compliant biological materials on everyone.

00:40:03.000 As long as he keeps saying it's safe and effective, that's all he has to do.

00:40:08.000 Mm-hmm.

00:40:09.000 He just has to mutter that line, I believe it's safe and effective, and as long as he says it's safe and effective, it achieves the criteria, which is that it may be effective.

00:40:20.000 That is all he has to do.

00:40:23.000 That explains to you also why Janet Woodcock and Peter Marks, with clear fear in their eyes, Keep repeating this mantra on mass media all the time.

00:40:32.000 And no matter what the experts bring, you know, we have, this is the best documented atrocity as far as the deaths and injuries in the human history by all sorts of experts.

00:40:45.000 And I respect them very much.

00:40:46.000 And they keep bringing these documents to these people.

00:40:49.000 And they look at them like this and they say it's safe and effective.

00:40:51.000 But that's why.

00:40:52.000 Because that's their role.

00:40:54.000 To support this charade.

00:40:56.000 Yeah, they just have to keep repeating that mantra.

00:41:00.000 And meanwhile, two of the highest officials who were in charge of FDA of making these determinations quit in a very, very, you know, dramatic way because they must have seen the hoax that was happening.

00:41:14.000 Yeah, I'm not sure if they saw the hoax, but I know I read the emails of Marion Gruber and forget the person who was reporting to her, they both quit.

00:41:22.000 So the issue was exactly that at the time of the so-called approval of this, the charade that Peter Marks by the emails is quite aware of, it seems to me, because it's easy to tell.

00:41:33.000 People who freak out about the deadlines that were put on them, which were absolutely outside of the norm by a long stretch, You need to understand that any normal drug approval is thousands, if not a million pages of documentation.

00:41:47.000 And terabytes of data that needs to be very carefully reviewed according to very standardized protocols and rigorous protocols that are written up.

00:41:56.000 And then the staffers at the FDA were pushed to the absolute limit.

00:42:01.000 And these completely unreasonable deadlines were pushed on them specifically by Peter Marks and Janet Woodcock, who would then go and push people and say, if you don't do this in this time, people are going to die and it's going to be your responsibility.

00:42:16.000 Then, yeah, so a bunch of people quit.

00:42:20.000 I know it was reported by Vanity Fair, two people committed suicide because they took it seriously.

00:42:26.000 Two FDA employees.

00:42:29.000 Two FDA staffers, according to Vanity Fair article, committed suicide during this process.

00:42:34.000 I mean, I can understand why.

00:42:36.000 People were just out of their mind driven seriously.

00:42:38.000 With fear by media on one side and scary, scary virus stories.

00:42:43.000 And on the other side, we have the top FDA officials telling them, people are going to die because of you.

00:42:49.000 Because you're not reviewing this quickly enough and you need to review it in two weeks, where before it took six months.

00:42:55.000 Or six years.

00:42:57.000 Or six years.

00:42:57.000 Yeah, well, I mean, just the review process of documentation itself.

00:43:01.000 That's why also, for example, Pfizer submitted fake results.

00:43:05.000 Like, clearly, we've written a lot of it on Substack.

00:43:08.000 They submitted fake what's called Western blots, which is the test...

00:43:12.000 That shows that this mRNA produces this spike protein.

00:43:15.000 They just computer simulated them.

00:43:17.000 And it's very obvious.

00:43:18.000 There's a program that does it.

00:43:20.000 And it was made obvious on purpose so that people wouldn't pass it as a real test.

00:43:25.000 But they did.

00:43:26.000 They submitted fake tests to FDA, EMA, TGA. All three of them accepted them.

00:43:31.000 And FDA actually lied, as you pointed out, as they did a rat study, a maternal rat study, to look at if they gave this vaccine to rats.

00:43:43.000 This is while they were testing whether it was safe to mandate to pregnant women.

00:43:48.000 And in every litter of rats, There were individual pups who had these really horrible bone deformities.

00:43:58.000 And it was a signal that was as loud as a signal that you can get that you ever see in medicine.

00:44:05.000 I mean, these rats were horrendously deformed.

00:44:08.000 And yet FDA, when it looked, and Moderna didn't even try to lie about it.

00:44:13.000 Moderna submitted the rat study because it had to, and then FDA lied about it by saying there were no problems with the rat study.

00:44:22.000 It was just a huge enterprise in lying.

00:44:27.000 Absolutely.

00:44:28.000 So the FDA lied on the behalf of Moderna.

00:44:31.000 Moderna accurately described, I think it's their own report.

00:44:35.000 Maybe it was even worse.

00:44:36.000 I only saw their own summary.

00:44:38.000 I didn't see the underlying data.

00:44:39.000 But in their own summary, they admitted to this.

00:44:42.000 And FDA just said, okay, we're going to lie to the public, to all the pregnant women that we're going to inject.

00:44:47.000 And that's another thing people need to understand.

00:44:49.000 So I am describing a very illegal structure that's made legal on paper.

00:44:54.000 It's unlawful.

00:44:56.000 The government is driving this.

00:44:59.000 People misunderstand that this is just another instance of big pharma corruption.

00:45:05.000 It's much, much bigger than that because the FDA and the U.S. government expanded Their immunity from prosecution under PrEP Act to these people.

00:45:16.000 And they said, here's billions and billions of dollars, very quickly.

00:45:21.000 Just do this under these DOD contracts.

00:45:25.000 And we're going to protect you.

00:45:27.000 We're going to give you this protection that we have as a government to do these things to you as a private manufacturer, as long as you follow orders and you don't ask any questions.

00:45:36.000 And that's exactly what's happening here, because we also see the FDA lying on in a lot of places, not just the RAD study, but in a lot of places, FDA and regulators are lying on behalf of the manufacturers.

00:45:47.000 Also the Department of Justice lawyers are showing up in court defending Pfizer's commercial interest.

00:45:52.000 That's not Pfizer's commercial interest.

00:45:54.000 It's the government's commercial interest.

00:45:56.000 And also in the international contracts, as you remember, they have these predatory clauses where Pfizer takes possession of military bases and government state assets in case they get sued.

00:46:09.000 Well, I was asked, why would private pharmaceutical manufacturers want a military base?

00:46:14.000 Well, because it's not the pharmaceutical manufacturers, the U.S. government that wants that military base.

00:46:19.000 That's what people need to understand.

00:46:20.000 It's a collusion.

00:46:21.000 It's a merger of pharma with government.

00:46:25.000 You can't treat it as just bad pharma, private company being bad.

00:46:31.000 It's them together being bad.

00:46:32.000 And that's a much, much worse problem we have.

00:46:35.000 Well, I'm gonna let you go, Sasha.

00:46:36.000 But before I do...

00:46:38.000 I'm an attorney.

00:46:39.000 I try to figure out ways to sue people like this.

00:46:43.000 And, you know, one of the frustrating things during this pandemic is that the PrEP Act, the CARE Act, and the 1986 VICA Vaccine Act have all bestowed broad immunity from liability under all of these actors.

00:46:57.000 So they're getting away literally with murder, with mass murder.

00:47:02.000 They're getting away with it.

00:47:04.000 Because they have been given this bubble of the shield of immunity from liability.

00:47:10.000 You have an expertise in corporate liability.

00:47:14.000 As a corporate liability officer, do you see any obvious place where somebody like me can file a lawsuit and get redressed for some of these illegal acts?

00:47:27.000 Yeah, so first of all, neither me nor my colleagues discourage anyone from doing just that, to just going after Pfizer because of all the fraud that they have committed.

00:47:37.000 I think what the problem is we're all having, we don't know exactly what's going to crack that wall, but we have to attempt different ways.

00:47:48.000 Now, yes, we can try going after Pfizer.

00:47:51.000 I'm just saying, you know, here's the lay of the land.

00:47:53.000 This is the defense they're going to invoke.

00:47:55.000 They already invoked it in Brooke Jackson's case.

00:47:58.000 They're saying, we did not defraud the government.

00:48:01.000 We delivered the fraud that the government ordered.

00:48:05.000 In which case?

00:48:06.000 Oh, in Brooke Jackson.

00:48:07.000 In Brooke Jackson's in April, they filed motion to dismiss.

00:48:10.000 So while, you know, the case may be dismissed, it hasn't been dismissed, but let's say in the future it gets dismissed because of this.

00:48:19.000 That admission alone is priceless.

00:48:21.000 And we need to elicit these admissions in court.

00:48:24.000 They need to tell us ultimately, ultimately, through whatever process, We're good to go.

00:48:43.000 You know, Fauci, whoever, you know, these specific individuals, they were rogue actors and acting outside of their authority.

00:48:51.000 So, and those are ultimately the admissions that we need to make from them publicly, and they need to repeat it over and over and over again so that everybody hears them.

00:49:00.000 Sasha, let me ask you one other thing.

00:49:02.000 You know that Robert Barnes...

00:49:05.000 The attorney who's been very, very active on these issues, along with me from the beginning, who's partnered with us on many, many lawsuits, and who is directly involved in litigation against the federal government on some of these issues.

00:49:21.000 He has come down kind of criticizing some of the things that we've been talking about today, saying that, well, even though statutorily There is, because the military contracts are written the way that they are, that there is no statutory obligation to do the clinical trials, etc.

00:49:42.000 There is a contractual obligation because in each of those contracts with the entities, with the pharmaceutical companies and places like BioNTech, The manufacturers, etc.

00:49:55.000 There is a contractual requirement that they do perform clinical trials, and Barnes believes that that is equivalent to the statutory requirements.

00:50:06.000 So how do you respond to that?

00:50:08.000 Well, you know, first of all, I'm not an attorney.

00:50:11.000 And I do, you know, I respect Robert Barnes a lot.

00:50:15.000 And I am also, you know, I support Brooke Jackson's case.

00:50:20.000 And I wanted to win, you know, I want people to understand why I'm saying what I'm saying is, I really do want them to win and I want this to stop and I want this to be resolved and investigated properly.

00:50:33.000 Now, I disagree with the position on the contracts, the position that the legal team has taken on the contracts.

00:50:40.000 I disagree with it because I read these contracts quite thoroughly.

00:50:44.000 And they are very strangely written if your objective is legitimately to produce a good pharmaceutical.

00:50:53.000 Because, you know, I have negotiated, you know, while I'm not an attorney, but I have negotiated numerous pharmaceutical research and development contracts, including several large ones with Pfizer.

00:51:04.000 And I know how Pfizer writes contracts when they do mean to put a good product on the market, and they want the suppliers to behave.

00:51:12.000 And this is not how this contract is written.

00:51:14.000 And also, Pfizer is not the writer of this contract.

00:51:17.000 This was written by the government and, I suspect, Department of Justice lawyers or whoever crafted this.

00:51:24.000 So it's written by the government, it's written in the government language, and it has very curious features.

00:51:31.000 So first of all, as far as I understand, I know I can't really argue statutory versus contractual, but as far as I understand the OTA, the other transaction authority, contracting method that's being used here, Department of Defense can use it, but they can only use it to buy prototypes.

00:51:49.000 It's not the method to order legitimate pharmaceutical products, regulated pharmaceuticals.

00:51:54.000 So number one, we're already in trouble here because they can only buy prototypes.

00:51:59.000 And in fact, the prototype language is all over this contract.

00:52:04.000 That was always odd for everyone involved.

00:52:06.000 Why are they talking about prototypes?

00:52:08.000 But that's why.

00:52:09.000 Because OTA requires them.

00:52:10.000 If they want to use OTA, which they want to use for a variety of reasons, avoiding regulation, secrecy, and so forth, they have to buy prototypes.

00:52:18.000 That's what they're buying.

00:52:19.000 They're buying prototypes.

00:52:20.000 And they call them different ways.

00:52:22.000 They call them countermeasures.

00:52:23.000 They call them large-scale manufacturing demonstrations.

00:52:26.000 Anything under the sun, but the properly pharmaceutical-defined products.

00:52:31.000 Another thing is that these contracts have curious omission of defined terms for anything that has to do with good manufacturing practice compliance, anything that has to do with clinical trials or preclinical or anything like that.

00:52:45.000 None of them are defined terms.

00:52:47.000 And if you understand what defined term means, it's like if you're really serious about something, you have to define it up front in the front section of the contract that says defined terms.

00:52:57.000 And then that serves as later on, if you have a dispute or something, you know, went wrong, then you can go and enforce it.

00:53:05.000 Otherwise it becomes, you know, subject to, you know, eye of the beholder type of a deal and unenforceable.

00:53:12.000 And then when they do talk about good manufacturing practice, which they do, they mention them throughout this contract in a variety of places.

00:53:21.000 It's also very curious because in many places they make mistakes.

00:53:24.000 They call them good manufacturing processes.

00:53:27.000 They call them good manufacturing procedures, which is not what it is.

00:53:31.000 The law says good manufacturing practices and has specific citations that you have to make, again, if you really mean it.

00:53:38.000 In one place, in the scope, they're saying specifically preclinical, clinical trials and good manufacturing practice, or chemistry manufacturing controls rather, is out of scope and the government is not buying it and not paying for it.

00:53:53.000 And then in the deliverable section, finally, they cited correctly as good manufacturing practices 21 CFR part 210, but then it says that the deliverable itself is Pfizer is going to write a plan.

00:54:07.000 Of how they're going to comply with it.

00:54:09.000 It's just a plan that's a deliverable, not the compliance itself.

00:54:13.000 And the acceptance criteria from the government is the government is going to review that plan.

00:54:18.000 Nothing else.

00:54:20.000 So, again, I'm not trying to, you know, hurt the case or defend Pfizer in any way.

00:54:29.000 I'm not defending Pfizer.

00:54:30.000 I mean, they're collaborating in this criminal enterprise, in my opinion.

00:54:33.000 But you have to understand the lay of the land, like how the thing is structured.

00:54:37.000 Who is doing what?

00:54:39.000 And my opinion is it's been structured together.

00:54:43.000 It's led by the government, by Department of Defense.

00:54:47.000 They want to use the frameworks that are inappropriate for buying pharmaceuticals, and they're weaseling themselves out of those requirements in this way.

00:54:57.000 But then the main lie is that together with Pfizer and FDA, they're lying to the public that these are properly purchased, ordered pharmaceuticals, regulatory compliant, and The FDA is regulating them.

00:55:09.000 That's the lie.

00:55:10.000 So that's what needs to be understood when they're going after these contracts.

00:55:16.000 Yeah, you know, I feel like, you know, both you and Robert are my friends, and you're both people I respect enormously, but I feel like I have to come down on your point of view on this issue because there's a huge difference between a contractual obligation between two parties And a statutory obligation that is enforceable by multiple parties and gives rise to all kinds of duties and obligations to the general public.

00:55:44.000 If Pfizer violates contract with the military, with the Pentagon, with the Department of Justice, only the Department of Justice has the right to redress.

00:55:54.000 And it gives the Department of Justice the ability to ignore breaches of contract and to overlook them.

00:56:01.000 And we know that the Department of Justice does not have a regulatory enforcement arm that is expert in pharmaceutical product production or distribution.

00:56:12.000 So there's nobody sitting in the Department of Justice whose job it is who will lose their job if Pfizer screws up.

00:56:24.000 Having tried to get the Justice Department involved in pharmaceutical cases, even breach of contract and breaches of judicial settlements with the Justice Department, that it's almost, in fact, I've been begging the Justice Department for three years to get involved with a case where I've been begging the Justice Department for three years to get involved with a case where Merck has been just blatantly lying about the efficacy of the They cheated on it.

00:56:50.000 They lied to the regulators.

00:56:52.000 They used rabbit blood and told them that it was human blood and we know this all. 0.77

00:56:59.000 And I've been trying to, I've been wrestling with the Justice Department.

00:57:02.000 They already have an enforcement contract.

00:57:04.000 They have a judicial settlement, and they're not willing, and Merck is in breach of it, and they are not willing to go in and redress it and sue Merck or just say to Merck, You violated your stipulated penalty.

00:57:18.000 They won't do it.

00:57:18.000 So I think you're right.

00:57:20.000 And then also, it's one thing to have a statutory obligation where you have a statutory obligation to do good manufacturing practices and where there's somebody over at HHS who can walk into your factory any day without notice and say, hey, you know, you've got rats in here or, you know, you've got glass in your product or...

00:57:43.000 The product is not homogenous.

00:57:45.000 Each of these batches is completely different.

00:57:47.000 And all the things that they look for and that are critical in this case, where you're dealing with a product that has to be kept at super freezing levels all the time.

00:57:57.000 And if HHS has its statutory obligation and duty to enforce that, and they know they can walk in at any time without giving notice, It's very different than a contract between the Justice Department and Merck saying, you've got to do this, but nobody's going to be looking over your shoulder.

00:58:16.000 Nobody's going to be walking into your plan.

00:58:19.000 To me, it's highly unlikely that they would comply with any of those obligations if you don't have that enforcement power.

00:58:25.000 So I think I have to come down on your side.

00:58:28.000 On this one, Sasha, and I want to thank you again for joining us.

00:58:33.000 You're an amazing resource, and I know the work that you've been doing exposing this has been very damaging to your own career, and it's unlikely that your livelihood has been in the pharmaceutical industry.

00:58:50.000 I highly doubt whether you ever get hired again.

00:58:58.000 We're one of these amazing people who's just said, this is wrong, and I don't care what the personal cost is, I'm going to expose this.

00:59:07.000 So thank you.

00:59:08.000 You are a true hero, Sasha.

00:59:11.000 Thank you very much.

00:59:12.000 Thank you, Robert.

00:59:13.000 I really appreciate it.

00:59:14.000 You know, this just means a lot to me when you say that.

00:59:18.000 Well, thank you.

00:59:18.000 You deserve it.

RFK Jr. The Defender - March 16, 2023

Militarized Healthcare with Sasha Latypova

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