Sasha Latipova is a former pharmaceutical R&D executive who worked in the industry for 25 years and ultimately owned and managed several contract research organizations, working on clinical trials for more than 60 pharmaceutical companies, including Pfizer, AstraZeneca, J&J, GSK, Novartis, and many others. Sasha sold her companies and retired from the industry before the pandemic, and has been speaking out on COVID and other vaccines and related matters since early 2021 as an independent researcher. In this episode, Sasha talks about how she uncovered the massive fraud and cover-up by the pharmaceutical industry, and how she was able to speak out against it. She also talks about her favorite painting, which is a painting of Daniel in the Lion's Den, and why it's so important to understand what God is really trying to tell us about the human body and the design of the universe. And, of course, she also explains why you should not be afraid of the truth. If you don't know what God's design is, then you need to understand that there is nothing in the universe that can be improved on the truth, because God's creation is perfect, and you can't improve on the creation of it until you understand it. And that's what God has created it, so you have nothing to fear, right? This episode is a must-listen-to-what-God is telling you about the truth and everything that has been created by Him. This is a powerful piece of advice that I think you should be listening to, because it's the most important thing you'll ever learn about in your life, no matter what you're going to be in the world, and it's going to help you understand the truth you'll be able to do in the most effective way possible, and that's not going to make you know that you'll get the most of it in the rest of the information you'll learn about it, right in your head and the most chance you'll hear it in a world that you will be the most powerful place you'll see in your world, the most evidence you'll have in your dreams, and the truth that you're gonna get in your brain, the only place you're being told by the universe is the most authentic and the only thing you're getting the most information you're not going the most accurate of that will be in your most authentic place in your reality, the realest place you will ever be in that place...
00:00:00.000I'm really happy that we have a return guest today.
00:00:04.000Sasha Latipova is a former pharmaceutical R&D executive.
00:00:09.000She worked in the industry for 25 years and ultimately owned and managed several contract research organizations, working on clinical trials for more than 60 pharmaceutical companies, including Pfizer, AstraZeneca, J&J, GSK, Novartis, and many others.
00:00:28.000Laipova worked many years in cardiovascular safety assessments and interacted with the FDA and other regulatory agencies on these matters on behalf of her clients as part of the FDA cardiovascular safety research consortium.
00:00:47.000Sasha sold her companies and retired from the industry before the pandemic.
00:00:53.000And Sasha has been speaking out on COVID and the mRNA vaccines and related matters since early 2021 as an independent researcher.
00:01:05.000What you're going to hear today is immensely important, and it puts a new dimension on the corruption that has occurred and really what I would call a coup d'etat against democracy by forces that include not only the medical cartel, but our military and intelligence and it puts a new dimension on the corruption that has occurred and And Sasha has done an incredible job of going into the weeds and documenting exactly how they got away with what they've gotten away with.
00:01:35.000And this is huge fraud that they have pulled off that has gulled virtually the entire regulatory community, physicians and the public.
00:01:47.000Sasha does not have a scientific or medical title.
00:01:51.000She's an MBA, but she brings a special expertise.
00:01:57.000She has a niche expertise, which is understanding the regulatory protocols and process that govern clinical trials.
00:02:05.000She was in charge of compliance for over 60 clinical trials.
00:02:11.000So she knows what the regulatory hurdles that are normal and that businesses have to comply with if they're going to bring a product, a drug or a vaccine to market.
00:02:24.000And during the early part of 2021, she began noticing some gaps in that process, let's say, and some irregularities about the way that the vaccines were brought to market.
00:02:37.000And that caused her to do freedom of information requests and to really figure out what was going on.
00:02:44.000And the fraud that she uncovered is monumental.
00:02:47.000So I'm really gonna try to stop talking and get Sasha to explain as she does incredibly, articulately, eloquently, and clearly exactly what happens.
00:03:00.000One thing I want to say is the last time we had you here, you look like you're in a bunker now.
00:03:07.000The last time you were in a very luxurious house with a beautiful oil painting behind you of Daniel and the Lion's Den, which I just loved.
00:03:15.000And I asked you about it and you said that it was your painting.
00:03:18.000And I looked you up and your artwork is incredible.
00:03:22.000So you're a person of many, many talents.
00:03:25.000I don't know where you are today, but you look good, the light looks good, but the background is not as great as it was when we saw you in your home.
00:04:18.000And it has to do with both the truth and the human body and everything that has been created in the universe.
00:04:23.000You cannot improve on the truth and you cannot improve...
00:04:27.000On the design of the human body or the cells or the DNA. And no matter what these fear mongers are telling you about the gain of function and all that nonsense, just understand that that's fear mongering and bluff.
00:04:40.000They cannot overcome what God created.
00:04:43.000And that's why that story about the Daniel is told that way.
00:04:47.000And if you understand it, then you know that there is nothing to be afraid of.
00:04:51.000So that was the message that that painting told me when I was making it.
00:04:55.000And well, so that's sort of the philosophical underpinnings of all of this.
00:05:03.000But yeah, so coming back to the criminals, you know, let's talk about the criminal organization.
00:05:12.000When I started looking into this in early 2020, You know, later in 2021, when they started rolling out the so-called vaccines, I was still naive and under assumption, like most of my colleagues, that, you know, these were pharmaceuticals and the FDA was regulating them and the CDC was supposed to be monitoring the safety signals, but somehow they missed them.
00:05:37.000Okay, and a lot of people are still in that camp and trying to get CDC to pay attention to the things that it was never going to and has no mandate to pay attention to, and in fact has the opposite mandate.
00:05:53.000So at the beginning, I was looking at the VAERS database of CDC and looking at the adverse events and deaths, especially serious adverse events and deaths associated with the so-called vaccines by lot numbers.
00:06:07.000And that was the unique view because I understood how they're made.
00:06:10.000They're supposed to be made in the lots and lots have numbers and they're tracked.
00:06:14.000And in any normal safety surveillance system, this is what you do.
00:06:18.000You identify some kind of a problem, a clustering of deaths.
00:06:27.000All the manufacturers have Those systems of surveillance.
00:06:31.000And in fact, you know, you get letters from your car dealers all the time saying, oh, this part was recalled or whatever.
00:06:36.000But that's because the same safety surveillance system was triggered somehow.
00:06:41.000And they figured out that, okay, this part number needs to be taken off the marketplace.
00:06:45.000The same happens with pharmaceuticals.
00:06:47.000A vast majority of recalls of pharmaceuticals or food, you know, salad with salmonella, are recalled by the manufacturers all over the United States.
00:06:56.000Yet this never happened with these products.
00:06:59.000In fact, there was one lot identified in Orange County, California for Moderna by Orange County, California Health Department on January 18th, 2021, as causing, they were calling, abnormal number of allergic reactions.
00:07:16.000So they flagged it, but there was no action taken.
00:07:19.000The lot was being continued to be distributed all over the United States, ultimately caused something like 65 deaths and over 3000 adverse events, serious adverse events.
00:07:31.000And after something like this happens, what I need people to understand, you don't have to continue going and saying, oh, I need to demonstrate excess mortality associated with this product.
00:07:43.000When something like this happened that I just described, it should be considered intentional murder.
00:07:49.000And those responsible should be prosecuted.
00:07:52.000At that point, the law enforcement needs to be triggered into action to go after those responsible who are now responsible for 65 dead people all over the United States.
00:08:02.000Let me add, and I'm going to try not to interrupt you, but let me just add one other thing that you may have just neglected to say, but there have been surveys of which lots are injuring people.
00:08:16.000And my understanding is that something like 90% of the injuries are the result of one or two or three or four, you know, a very, very small number of lots, maybe 5% of the lots.
00:08:32.000That was early data point, which is still true based on the raw output from VAERS database.
00:08:43.000Well, in reality, we also found is that CDC also manipulates the data through their contractors.
00:08:50.000So they manipulate the data very heavily so that it looks this way.
00:08:54.000In reality, actually, the percentage is something like, I would say, 30% of the lots are accountable for 90% of the deaths.
00:09:03.000But because of data manipulation that CDC does, it looks more like 5% of the lots.
00:09:22.000The first thing to do is stop and recall.
00:09:24.000If this is done in the interest of public safety by everyone involved, the government, HHS, FDA, CDC, all the manufacturers, you know, Pfizer, their subcontractors, anyone has those systems in place.
00:10:18.000We have direct documents from European Medicines Agency stating that Pfizer was not in compliance with good manufacturing practices at the time of authorization or conditional marketing approval actually in Europe.
00:10:31.000They were not in compliance and that was regulatory objection number one, which is a major red flag, formal objection by the regulator to the approval.
00:10:40.000And that should have been resolved before anything was being shipped.
00:10:44.000Yet, two weeks after that notice was issued, commercial lots of Pfizer, which had been manufactured long before that opinion was issued, got shipped in the U.S. and internationally, violating every import-export rule, all other GMP compliance rules.
00:11:02.000Again, after that You should say it's completely intentional, not only in the US, internationally.
00:11:22.000We can't even bring them on charges for any of these very flagrant violations.
00:11:28.000And then ultimately, I ran into this brilliant analysis by my colleague now saying, Catherine Watt, who writes Bailiwick News Substack, and she's compiled what I would say an encyclopedia of law reference and law reference on this topic of how the U.S. government over time created this pseudo-legal structure.
00:11:56.000And that's what, you know, Catherine has tracked.
00:11:59.000And once I read it, the universe started making sense to me again because this is what they've done.
00:12:04.000This is the crime that they're committing as we speak.
00:12:07.000So what they put in place, and this has been done over time, so it shows a lot of pre-planning and premeditation.
00:12:14.000They've created a framework of pseudo-legal laws that they're using.
00:12:19.000And first of them is, well, there are several statutes, Six key statutes that she describes, but I'm going to speak about just a few of them here.
00:12:30.000The emergency use authorization law, that's what's being used here in the US. It's a little bit different outside of US, but let's focus on the US. It was put in place in 1997 under Clinton, and it actually authorizes FDA to put drugs or devices on the market without proper testing.
00:12:50.000Or authorized and unauthorized use of a device or drug.
00:12:55.000And that was initially explained as, you know, very limited niche kind of application for desperate cases, for terminal cancer, for something that very, very critical criteria for EUA is that there is no other treatment option.
00:13:09.000So that explains the suppression of hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin, which were perfectly workable, safe, and long-used medications that were showing a lot of promise.
00:13:20.000And yes, we know now, definitively, they're quite effective at treating COVID. And that is because, just to elucidate this for our listeners, the EUA provision regulation that was promulgated by the Clinton administration had safeguards in it.
00:13:38.000And it said, yes, you can take a medication that has no approval, And you can distribute it and approve it for use without clinical trials, without any safety or efficacy testing.
00:13:54.000But you cannot do that if there is an existing drug that is approved for any purpose that is demonstrated to be effective against the target illness.
00:14:08.000And so you can only use that EUA if no other drug or treatment exists.
00:14:15.000So it was very important if they wanted to use that EUA for their vaccines, they needed to first discredit or destroy any drugs that actually were effective against COVID.
00:14:28.000And very early on, they knew that hydroxychloroquine was effective against coronavirus because NIH did studies that showed it was it was devastatingly effective, both as a preventative and as a cure.
00:14:45.000And ivermectin was also devastatingly effective, but it would have killed their entire use of the emergency use authorization if there had been any acknowledgement that those drugs were.
00:15:00.000So let me just give the punchline to what you're about to tell us.
00:15:06.000Which is that essentially there were a series of laws put in place that allowed the military to take over distribution of vaccines and under a provision that does not allow any clinical trials and does not allow any safety testing.
00:15:26.000And that essentially the safety testing that we did see, which was conducted by the pharmaceutical industry, was kabuki theater.
00:15:36.000Put on for the public with no regulatory implications.
00:15:40.000And that's why they were able to take all these shortcuts, because it was meaningless theater.
00:15:46.000Now, I'm going to let you explain kind of the long version of that, but that's what people, you know, that's kind of where we're going.
00:15:55.000So it was, you know, a pretend authorization by a regulatory agency, FDA, that has no regulatory mandate to regulate countermeasures in the United States.
00:16:08.000You know, remember the FDA mandate is to regulate interstate commerce of medical products and food, right?
00:16:15.000So they are supposed to approve medical products, and these are not medical products, they're countermeasures.
00:16:21.000So that legal framework that's being utilized here is essentially pretending that this is a health event and pretending that these are health products while using the laws that actually put them into a totally different space.
00:16:38.000So in addition to the emergency use authorization, they're using another set of laws that are allowing them to contract under other transaction authorities.
00:16:48.000So Department of Defense, and they're not just overseeing the distribution of vaccines, by the way, that was sold to the public also.
00:16:54.000They're actually, the Department of Defense is fully in charge of the development of the clinical trials, of the execution of all this manufacturing and ordering of them and distributing the money and taking the possession of the delivered product and distributing it and owning it until it is injected into a person.
00:17:12.000So they're using other transaction authority, which is a way for the government to contract.
00:17:19.000Again, initially it was very narrowly defined, given authority to NASA to do it in the 60s.
00:17:24.000Now 11 government agencies are using it and DoD is a particular frequent user.
00:17:31.000Other transaction authority is called an OTA. And it was essentially designed to allow the Pentagon to quickly buy weapons and weapons systems without paying attention to any existing regulatory authorities.
00:17:49.000What they've done is they've taken that authority and they've applied it to the vaccines.
00:17:55.000So they're purchasing the vaccines under OTA as a demonstration product.
00:18:10.000They farm this out to hundreds of military contractors to do the manufacturing, to do the distribution, to do every aspect of it.
00:18:19.000And it's all a huge military operation.
00:18:22.000And the involvement of the drug companies is kind of window dressing because the Pentagon did not want to say, did not want to put on the product.
00:18:32.000This is a Pentagon made, Defense Department made product.
00:18:37.000They essentially paid the pharmaceutical companies for their brand name.
00:18:42.000So people would think they were getting something from Pfizer or Moderna.
00:18:46.000But all of the back room and the distribution and factoring is done by the military.
00:18:53.000And the pharmaceutical companies were brought in to put their name on it and then to pretend to do clinical trials, which have no legal significance.
00:19:05.000So OTA allows them not only, you know, quickly order otherwise regulated products from regulated industry, private industry, without following the regulations.
00:19:16.000And that's why DOD loves it so much, because not only they can do that, they can also hide a lot of technology and IP from public, from each other, from other government branches.
00:19:29.000And also they don't have to follow any federal procurement accounting rules.
00:19:33.000So that's why their stated budget is $800 billion, but they can't find $8 trillion because they lost it and there's no accounting records for it.
00:20:02.000So these contracts became available, over 400 of them, for all countermeasures, not just vaccines, but vaccines got the largest chunk of money.
00:20:11.000So it's vaccines, therapeutics, diagnostics, even masks were included in that.
00:20:16.000So they gave them a huge chunk of money.
00:20:19.000The scope of work of these contracts, the primary scope of work, is large-scale manufacturing demonstration.
00:20:26.000They also use words sometimes, prototypes.
00:20:29.000Sometimes, you know, it's prototype, demo, countermeasure, large-scale manufacturing demonstration.
00:20:33.000Those are typical scope of work in these projects.
00:20:36.000And then they mention, you know, in a fluff language, they mention things like, oh, it's going to be subject to FDA rules and compliance.
00:20:43.000But then they also have these scope definition clauses where it says specifically out of scope, And we're not paying for it, we're not ordering it, is preclinical, clinical development and manufacturing compliance.
00:20:56.000So that should be understood very clearly by everyone.
00:21:00.000Department of Defense gave humongous amounts of money to all these pharma companies for a demonstration, just a demonstration.
00:21:09.000And if you knew that you're going to inject your child...
00:21:15.000With a Department of Defense prototype ordered under OTA and emergency use authorized, would you do it?
00:21:24.000So that was the biggest lie that was sold to the public, that can't get injected with the safe, effective thing that manufactured by Pfizer, you know, a prestigious pharmaceutical company, which is also a felon, by the way, but...
00:21:37.000People think that it's a pharma company.
00:21:41.000And they can invoke all this structure under public health emergency and continue invoking it under public health emergency because this whole thing clicks into place when they announce public health emergency based on absolutely no data and no evidence that any emergency exists.
00:21:59.000And we'll continue extending it as long as we allow them to because of this, because they need it in place so that they can continue implementing this structure.
00:22:10.000When they operate under OTA, there is no quality control.
00:22:18.000Because normally you would have quality control choke points.
00:22:22.000In other words, the government regulates quality control at the factory.
00:22:26.000And then again, in the distribution system, when you cross state lines, you have to show the lot number and you have to show that you complied with quality control and best manufacturing processes.
00:23:09.000I even have suspicion that reading these documents, and this is an educated guess, that Pfizer, for example, also doesn't know exactly what's in those products because there are some indications, I'm not going to discuss this deeply right now, that Pfizer is also not necessarily knowing exactly what goes into what.
00:23:29.000So there's a huge question mark as to whether there is mRNA in these products or no.
00:23:37.000I know some of the researchers found evidence of RNA, but it was not conforming to the specification that Pfizer described.
00:23:44.000It was different lengths of mRNA, different strands of mRNA, and there were huge impurities, you know, a thousand times greater than limit.
00:23:53.000There were impurities of DNA and all kinds of other toxic materials were found, such as metals, For example, very toxic metals and other large structures that are unexplained, but they're too large to be in an injectable product.
00:24:06.000And that should be, again, basis for recall, any of this.
00:24:10.000And so we don't know what exactly is in it, whether there is RNA, if there is RNA, what it's coding for, what it's not coding for.
00:24:18.000Even when it's not coding for things, it has been designated, this RNA and small pieces of RNA have been designated as a biological weapon.
00:24:27.000Since 1997, at least, I found a number of government reports, including a whole textbook by NIH that says so and has a whole chapter on this.
00:24:37.000So we have these non-compliant biological materials distributed in these vials.
00:24:54.000They have been designated as dual-use.
00:24:56.000In fact, the contracts are saying they're dual-use civil and military application.
00:25:00.000We have government reports describing them as a biological weapon, and the use of them is indistinguishable from use as a biological weapon.
00:25:07.000So I have a question to our government.
00:25:09.000What is it that they're exactly forcing on us?
00:25:12.000And so somebody needs to start an investigation and address it.
00:25:16.000But while we're doing an investigation, it should be stopped.
00:25:25.000I know that BioNport, which is this crooked company that I'm very familiar with, had a monopoly on the smallpox vaccine and the anthrax vaccines, and they have this very corrupt relationship with Robert Cadillac.
00:25:42.000Who runs BARDA. And BARDA runs the National Strategic Stockpile.
00:26:33.000And they shipped it to Canada, as I recall, because they couldn't use it in the United States, so they gave it to the Canadians.
00:26:41.000But the question I have is, how much of these vaccines are actually being manufactured by Pfizer and Moderna, and how much of them are going to military contractors like Immersion Biosolutions, which used to be called Bioport, Yeah.
00:27:00.000So yes, there are hundreds of companies that are involved.
00:27:04.000So Pfizer, Moderna, and Janssen have been advertised as sort of a front, right?
00:27:09.000But in fact, there are hundreds and hundreds of both different vaccine manufacturers of different sizes and locations, also raw material suppliers and fill-finish companies, which is, you know, takes the product and then fills it into vials and does all the packaging and things like that.
00:27:28.000So that's a network that had been established by the Department of Defense through various consortia.
00:27:34.000So here specifically is chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear consortium is involved, which contains about 300 companies.
00:27:42.000I'm not saying all of them are doing this, but a good chunk are involved.
00:27:47.000And the whole thing, you know, people are saying, well, but how, you know, that means that all of these people, thousands of people are in on this conspiracy.
00:27:54.000Actually, it doesn't require thousands of people to be in on the conspiracy.
00:28:56.000Both of them have to comply with best manufacturing practices.
00:29:02.000Yeah, and oftentimes people working, first of all, so Moderna, for example, bragged that their entire Biologics manufacturing facility in Norwood, Massachusetts was built, by the way, in 2019, when they had no product to have a manufacturing facility for.
00:29:15.000Yet, Anthony Fauci went and cut the ribbon, and everybody was super proud, and they said it's fully digital.
00:29:22.000Well, you know what fully digital means before you have any products or designed anything?
00:29:26.000Well, it means that there are no humans on the floor to ask questions.
00:29:30.000Or to ask about compliance or to ask what the ingredients are.
00:29:34.000And they frequently hire very inexperienced people and they don't train them.
00:29:39.000And as Brooke Jackson found, oftentimes they don't even, they're not even aware that they're supposed to have a quality system, standard operating procedures, that they're supposed to be trained, that they're supposed to be signing off.
00:29:50.000So they hire people who don't know it, they don't tell them.
00:29:54.000And then, you know, they don't need to be on the conspiracy because they're not aware of the rules.
00:30:00.000So that's how I'm telling everyone, when I say FDA or when I say Pfizer, I don't mean the thousands of people who work there.
00:30:07.000I mean the leadership, general counsel, who are aware of the legal structure that's being utilized here, and in fact invoking it in their defense right now.
00:30:30.000You have to put the supply chain in place, have the bottles, have the glass, have the syringes, have all of these items.
00:30:39.000And it seems like they had to put this manufacturing process in place earlier.
00:30:47.000I mean, it's not something where you can go to the pharmaceutical industry and say to the pharmaceutical industry, stop making flu shots and start making COVID shots and they can produce billions overnight, right?
00:32:13.000They're controlling the entire industry because it's single buyer buying 50%.
00:32:17.000But anyway, so since then, they've established this gigantic network of manufacturers, ostensibly for pen influenza, They have exchanged IP throughout and manufacturing.
00:32:32.000Because you can't just say, here, I need 10 billion doses of this completely new drug.
00:32:39.000It's an extremely complex manufacturing system.
00:32:41.000It's just as complex as making a new aircraft.
00:32:44.000Or making a brand new type of a vehicle.
00:32:47.000You know, it has as many parts and suppliers and procedures that you need to put in place.
00:33:05.000So somebody estimated just to produce what they claim to have produced for these RNA products, you need to make about a kilogram of DNA. As a template.
00:33:23.000Also, just even having these contracts in place for this amount of money, all signed in, like, the signatures begin in early February.
00:33:30.000Well, that means that it was negotiated the year before.
00:33:33.000Because you can't just walk into the room and sign a $10 billion contract like this.
00:33:38.000So all of that indicates that they sold the public a bunch of fluff, a story about the Cinderella overnight success.
00:33:47.000Whereas this was pre-planned, they made the manufacturing facilities, they established the relationships, they established the raw material suppliers, they put in place the contracts and relationships so that they can just turn it on when they wanted to.
00:34:01.000And they called them all and they said, oh, stop working on your influenza models, switch over to COVID. That's what happened.
00:34:09.000I mean, if you were to go to the automobile industry with a totally new product, which this is, nobody had ever done anything like this.
00:34:19.000You have to manufacture this 100 degrees below zero or something.
00:35:33.000It used to be called resilience, but it's basically government-owned biologics manufacturing facilities that they bought from pharma companies.
00:35:41.000And now, you know, it gave them a gigantic amount of money to do this biologics manufacturing.
00:35:46.000So all of this government-owned, DOD-owned, DoD managed through the defense contractor networks and with the same mechanisms that they use for weapons, and also with the same mechanisms of not following any regulations as they do for weapons.
00:36:20.000Specifically, the public health emergency allows them to invoke these illegal laws that I just described, including other transactions authority, use of emergency, use of authorized countermeasures under public health emergency.
00:36:34.000It does not constitute clinical investigation, which means it puts them outside of the FDA regulatory supervision.
00:36:43.000And then other transaction authority allows them to order undisclosed prototypes.
00:36:47.000In this word, undisclosed prototype, you can hide whatever you want, a tank, a missile, or a biological weapon.
00:36:54.000And then, so what also happens under public health emergency is HHS secretary becomes de facto head of the government and a dictator.
00:37:03.000Again, nobody really knows, but it was Alex Azar and now it's Javier Becerra.
00:37:08.000Who deploys these things on the United States population, on every man, woman, and child here.
00:37:14.000And he, in his sole capacity, or she, whoever succeeds them, decides, you know, the criteria for this deployment is their personal decision whether these particular things, countermeasure prototypes by the Department of Defense, may be effective.
00:37:35.000Let me just clarify what you're saying.
00:37:38.000Normally, you know, the protocols that you had to go through in your businesses, you would do, you know, you do a series of proposals, you design the clinical trials to make sure that they're going to show efficacy, that they're going to show safety.
00:37:54.000You do those clinical trials for a number of years.
00:37:56.000And then you go and show the results to FDA. FDA has to make determinations about safety and efficacy and has to make determinations that the product is going to avert more harm than it causes and the appropriate warnings and the side effects that you put on the manufacturer's inserts and all these thousand things that you have to do to get a product to market and get the inspections, etc.
00:38:26.000And the only determination is that the Secretary of HHS decides in his head, with either some evidence or no evidence whatsoever, that the product may be effective.
00:38:56.000Even if there's a mountain of evidence that says it's killing people, it's not effective, he can choose legally under his own decision making that That I'm going to believe this is effective no matter what the evidence says.
00:39:14.000As long as I believe it's effective legally, I can essentially mandate it for all Americans.
00:39:23.000He never has to reconsider the decision.
00:39:24.000And since there is no criteria to begin with, well, whatever made him believe so can continue making him believe so.
00:39:32.000And so that also explains why mainstream media, well, the huge propaganda campaign of fear and lies that mainstream media...
00:39:41.000Pushed on the American public and global public in cahoots, obviously, with FDA and CDC and NIH. I mean, that explains it because they need to maintain this theatrical performance, pretending that there is no evidence, and so that the HHS secretary can continue his delusion and deployment of these unauthorized, non-compliant biological materials on everyone.
00:40:03.000As long as he keeps saying it's safe and effective, that's all he has to do.
00:40:09.000He just has to mutter that line, I believe it's safe and effective, and as long as he says it's safe and effective, it achieves the criteria, which is that it may be effective.
00:40:23.000That explains to you also why Janet Woodcock and Peter Marks, with clear fear in their eyes, Keep repeating this mantra on mass media all the time.
00:40:32.000And no matter what the experts bring, you know, we have, this is the best documented atrocity as far as the deaths and injuries in the human history by all sorts of experts.
00:40:56.000Yeah, they just have to keep repeating that mantra.
00:41:00.000And meanwhile, two of the highest officials who were in charge of FDA of making these determinations quit in a very, very, you know, dramatic way because they must have seen the hoax that was happening.
00:41:14.000Yeah, I'm not sure if they saw the hoax, but I know I read the emails of Marion Gruber and forget the person who was reporting to her, they both quit.
00:41:22.000So the issue was exactly that at the time of the so-called approval of this, the charade that Peter Marks by the emails is quite aware of, it seems to me, because it's easy to tell.
00:41:33.000People who freak out about the deadlines that were put on them, which were absolutely outside of the norm by a long stretch, You need to understand that any normal drug approval is thousands, if not a million pages of documentation.
00:41:47.000And terabytes of data that needs to be very carefully reviewed according to very standardized protocols and rigorous protocols that are written up.
00:41:56.000And then the staffers at the FDA were pushed to the absolute limit.
00:42:01.000And these completely unreasonable deadlines were pushed on them specifically by Peter Marks and Janet Woodcock, who would then go and push people and say, if you don't do this in this time, people are going to die and it's going to be your responsibility.
00:42:16.000Then, yeah, so a bunch of people quit.
00:42:20.000I know it was reported by Vanity Fair, two people committed suicide because they took it seriously.
00:44:59.000People misunderstand that this is just another instance of big pharma corruption.
00:45:05.000It's much, much bigger than that because the FDA and the U.S. government expanded Their immunity from prosecution under PrEP Act to these people.
00:45:16.000And they said, here's billions and billions of dollars, very quickly.
00:45:21.000Just do this under these DOD contracts.
00:45:27.000We're going to give you this protection that we have as a government to do these things to you as a private manufacturer, as long as you follow orders and you don't ask any questions.
00:45:36.000And that's exactly what's happening here, because we also see the FDA lying on in a lot of places, not just the RAD study, but in a lot of places, FDA and regulators are lying on behalf of the manufacturers.
00:45:47.000Also the Department of Justice lawyers are showing up in court defending Pfizer's commercial interest.
00:45:52.000That's not Pfizer's commercial interest.
00:45:54.000It's the government's commercial interest.
00:45:56.000And also in the international contracts, as you remember, they have these predatory clauses where Pfizer takes possession of military bases and government state assets in case they get sued.
00:46:09.000Well, I was asked, why would private pharmaceutical manufacturers want a military base?
00:46:14.000Well, because it's not the pharmaceutical manufacturers, the U.S. government that wants that military base.
00:46:19.000That's what people need to understand.
00:46:39.000I try to figure out ways to sue people like this.
00:46:43.000And, you know, one of the frustrating things during this pandemic is that the PrEP Act, the CARE Act, and the 1986 VICA Vaccine Act have all bestowed broad immunity from liability under all of these actors.
00:46:57.000So they're getting away literally with murder, with mass murder.
00:47:04.000Because they have been given this bubble of the shield of immunity from liability.
00:47:10.000You have an expertise in corporate liability.
00:47:14.000As a corporate liability officer, do you see any obvious place where somebody like me can file a lawsuit and get redressed for some of these illegal acts?
00:47:27.000Yeah, so first of all, neither me nor my colleagues discourage anyone from doing just that, to just going after Pfizer because of all the fraud that they have committed.
00:47:37.000I think what the problem is we're all having, we don't know exactly what's going to crack that wall, but we have to attempt different ways.
00:47:48.000Now, yes, we can try going after Pfizer.
00:47:51.000I'm just saying, you know, here's the lay of the land.
00:47:53.000This is the defense they're going to invoke.
00:47:55.000They already invoked it in Brooke Jackson's case.
00:47:58.000They're saying, we did not defraud the government.
00:48:01.000We delivered the fraud that the government ordered.
00:48:21.000And we need to elicit these admissions in court.
00:48:24.000They need to tell us ultimately, ultimately, through whatever process, We're good to go.
00:48:43.000You know, Fauci, whoever, you know, these specific individuals, they were rogue actors and acting outside of their authority.
00:48:51.000So, and those are ultimately the admissions that we need to make from them publicly, and they need to repeat it over and over and over again so that everybody hears them.
00:49:00.000Sasha, let me ask you one other thing.
00:49:05.000The attorney who's been very, very active on these issues, along with me from the beginning, who's partnered with us on many, many lawsuits, and who is directly involved in litigation against the federal government on some of these issues.
00:49:21.000He has come down kind of criticizing some of the things that we've been talking about today, saying that, well, even though statutorily There is, because the military contracts are written the way that they are, that there is no statutory obligation to do the clinical trials, etc.
00:49:42.000There is a contractual obligation because in each of those contracts with the entities, with the pharmaceutical companies and places like BioNTech, The manufacturers, etc.
00:49:55.000There is a contractual requirement that they do perform clinical trials, and Barnes believes that that is equivalent to the statutory requirements.
00:50:08.000Well, you know, first of all, I'm not an attorney.
00:50:11.000And I do, you know, I respect Robert Barnes a lot.
00:50:15.000And I am also, you know, I support Brooke Jackson's case.
00:50:20.000And I wanted to win, you know, I want people to understand why I'm saying what I'm saying is, I really do want them to win and I want this to stop and I want this to be resolved and investigated properly.
00:50:33.000Now, I disagree with the position on the contracts, the position that the legal team has taken on the contracts.
00:50:40.000I disagree with it because I read these contracts quite thoroughly.
00:50:44.000And they are very strangely written if your objective is legitimately to produce a good pharmaceutical.
00:50:53.000Because, you know, I have negotiated, you know, while I'm not an attorney, but I have negotiated numerous pharmaceutical research and development contracts, including several large ones with Pfizer.
00:51:04.000And I know how Pfizer writes contracts when they do mean to put a good product on the market, and they want the suppliers to behave.
00:51:12.000And this is not how this contract is written.
00:51:14.000And also, Pfizer is not the writer of this contract.
00:51:17.000This was written by the government and, I suspect, Department of Justice lawyers or whoever crafted this.
00:51:24.000So it's written by the government, it's written in the government language, and it has very curious features.
00:51:31.000So first of all, as far as I understand, I know I can't really argue statutory versus contractual, but as far as I understand the OTA, the other transaction authority, contracting method that's being used here, Department of Defense can use it, but they can only use it to buy prototypes.
00:51:49.000It's not the method to order legitimate pharmaceutical products, regulated pharmaceuticals.
00:51:54.000So number one, we're already in trouble here because they can only buy prototypes.
00:51:59.000And in fact, the prototype language is all over this contract.
00:52:04.000That was always odd for everyone involved.
00:52:06.000Why are they talking about prototypes?
00:52:10.000If they want to use OTA, which they want to use for a variety of reasons, avoiding regulation, secrecy, and so forth, they have to buy prototypes.
00:52:23.000They call them large-scale manufacturing demonstrations.
00:52:26.000Anything under the sun, but the properly pharmaceutical-defined products.
00:52:31.000Another thing is that these contracts have curious omission of defined terms for anything that has to do with good manufacturing practice compliance, anything that has to do with clinical trials or preclinical or anything like that.
00:52:47.000And if you understand what defined term means, it's like if you're really serious about something, you have to define it up front in the front section of the contract that says defined terms.
00:52:57.000And then that serves as later on, if you have a dispute or something, you know, went wrong, then you can go and enforce it.
00:53:05.000Otherwise it becomes, you know, subject to, you know, eye of the beholder type of a deal and unenforceable.
00:53:12.000And then when they do talk about good manufacturing practice, which they do, they mention them throughout this contract in a variety of places.
00:53:21.000It's also very curious because in many places they make mistakes.
00:53:24.000They call them good manufacturing processes.
00:53:27.000They call them good manufacturing procedures, which is not what it is.
00:53:31.000The law says good manufacturing practices and has specific citations that you have to make, again, if you really mean it.
00:53:38.000In one place, in the scope, they're saying specifically preclinical, clinical trials and good manufacturing practice, or chemistry manufacturing controls rather, is out of scope and the government is not buying it and not paying for it.
00:53:53.000And then in the deliverable section, finally, they cited correctly as good manufacturing practices 21 CFR part 210, but then it says that the deliverable itself is Pfizer is going to write a plan.
00:54:07.000Of how they're going to comply with it.
00:54:09.000It's just a plan that's a deliverable, not the compliance itself.
00:54:13.000And the acceptance criteria from the government is the government is going to review that plan.
00:54:39.000And my opinion is it's been structured together.
00:54:43.000It's led by the government, by Department of Defense.
00:54:47.000They want to use the frameworks that are inappropriate for buying pharmaceuticals, and they're weaseling themselves out of those requirements in this way.
00:54:57.000But then the main lie is that together with Pfizer and FDA, they're lying to the public that these are properly purchased, ordered pharmaceuticals, regulatory compliant, and The FDA is regulating them.
00:55:10.000So that's what needs to be understood when they're going after these contracts.
00:55:16.000Yeah, you know, I feel like, you know, both you and Robert are my friends, and you're both people I respect enormously, but I feel like I have to come down on your point of view on this issue because there's a huge difference between a contractual obligation between two parties And a statutory obligation that is enforceable by multiple parties and gives rise to all kinds of duties and obligations to the general public.
00:55:44.000If Pfizer violates contract with the military, with the Pentagon, with the Department of Justice, only the Department of Justice has the right to redress.
00:55:54.000And it gives the Department of Justice the ability to ignore breaches of contract and to overlook them.
00:56:01.000And we know that the Department of Justice does not have a regulatory enforcement arm that is expert in pharmaceutical product production or distribution.
00:56:12.000So there's nobody sitting in the Department of Justice whose job it is who will lose their job if Pfizer screws up.
00:56:24.000Having tried to get the Justice Department involved in pharmaceutical cases, even breach of contract and breaches of judicial settlements with the Justice Department, that it's almost, in fact, I've been begging the Justice Department for three years to get involved with a case where I've been begging the Justice Department for three years to get involved with a case where Merck has been just blatantly lying about the efficacy of the They cheated on it.
00:56:52.000They used rabbit blood and told them that it was human blood and we know this all.
00:56:59.000And I've been trying to, I've been wrestling with the Justice Department.
00:57:02.000They already have an enforcement contract.
00:57:04.000They have a judicial settlement, and they're not willing, and Merck is in breach of it, and they are not willing to go in and redress it and sue Merck or just say to Merck, You violated your stipulated penalty.
00:57:20.000And then also, it's one thing to have a statutory obligation where you have a statutory obligation to do good manufacturing practices and where there's somebody over at HHS who can walk into your factory any day without notice and say, hey, you know, you've got rats in here or, you know, you've got glass in your product or...
00:57:45.000Each of these batches is completely different.
00:57:47.000And all the things that they look for and that are critical in this case, where you're dealing with a product that has to be kept at super freezing levels all the time.
00:57:57.000And if HHS has its statutory obligation and duty to enforce that, and they know they can walk in at any time without giving notice, It's very different than a contract between the Justice Department and Merck saying, you've got to do this, but nobody's going to be looking over your shoulder.
00:58:16.000Nobody's going to be walking into your plan.
00:58:19.000To me, it's highly unlikely that they would comply with any of those obligations if you don't have that enforcement power.
00:58:25.000So I think I have to come down on your side.
00:58:28.000On this one, Sasha, and I want to thank you again for joining us.
00:58:33.000You're an amazing resource, and I know the work that you've been doing exposing this has been very damaging to your own career, and it's unlikely that your livelihood has been in the pharmaceutical industry.
00:58:50.000I highly doubt whether you ever get hired again.
00:58:58.000We're one of these amazing people who's just said, this is wrong, and I don't care what the personal cost is, I'm going to expose this.