Dr. Marty Goldstein is probably the world s leading integrative veterinary medicine expert. He is one of the co-founders of the... what is it? The American Holistic Veterinary Medical Association, AHVMA. Dr. Goldstein is also the author of the book Animal Healing, which was released 22 years ago and is still in the top 15,000 bookspee bookshelf on Amazon. He's also the host of the Animal Healing Podcast, which is available on Amazon Prime and Vimeo worldwide. If you don't already have a Kindle device, you can get a free eReader app from Amazon so you can read my book on any laptop, desktop, smartphone or tablet device. Kindle $9.99, hardcover $99, paperback $99.99 or hardcover 99.99. You can also get my second book, Animal Healing: The Ultimate Guide to Animal Healing by clicking here. Kindle Free Masterclass: Kindle Free eReader $9,99, Hardcover 99, paperback 99,99 or Hardcover 49,99. Audible Freebie: $49.99 You can get my third book, "Animal Healing: How to Heal Your Animal Healing" which is also available on amazon, amazon and amazon. Audible freebie, Kindle Freebie, $49, and Audible FREEbie, if you buy it for $99 or buy it from amazon or amazon Freebie or Audible, it will get you a free 7 days shipping, plus shipping and handling, plus a free shipping. Kindle Free Audible Prime membership & Audible membership, and a limited edition hardcover copy of my book called Animal Healing. I'm giving you a copy of The Animal Healing Guide, $99 paperback edition of Animal Healing is available for free. The Nature Healing Guide $99 and my book will be out soon! I hope you enjoy this book! and you'll leave a review on Audible $99 and review it in the Kindle $99/ Audible and subscribe to my other book, The Nature of Nature by amazon Prime Day, $29,99 or The Nature, $24,99 and The New York Times & The Huffington Post, $19,99 & The Independent Journalist etc., and I'll send you a review of The Nature Healers Subscribe to my newsletter, The Rootlings
00:00:45.000Yeah, the Moonlight Mile, and then they opened another one called the Moonlight Mile again.
00:00:49.000And after the Rolling Stones song, he was a big Rolling Stones fan.
00:00:52.000He met Marty because there was a dog, a German Shepherd that belonged to a friend of his, but every dad who saw it had deemed it incurable.
00:01:02.000Marty cured the dog and became friends with Paul.
00:01:07.000He used to drink at Paul's bar and Paul's son had a hamster that had fallen off a table and it was paralyzed from the waist down and Paul is an animal lover and he kept this hamster anyhow.
00:01:19.000But for many, many weeks, it just dragged its feet around, and it was permanently paralyzed.
00:02:27.000You know, right after that, I reversed the hamster of paralysis.
00:02:31.000But that's when the arrow started to fly at my back.
00:02:36.000Well, tell us, because I know early in your career, we've talked about this, that you had a Weimarana, that you were treating yourself with good food, you stopped eating processed food, your health came back, you'd been very, very sickly for a decade, your health came back, and then you decided, I'll try this on an animal, and it was, tell us about the Weimarana.
00:02:59.000Yeah, we actually formulated a very big central hospital with eight veterinarians.
00:03:04.000And there was a one runner that was in a coma, had a seizure, went into a coma, was not my case.
00:03:10.000We were really friendly with the veterinarians.
00:03:12.000And I overheard that after being in a coma four or five days that the dog was going to be euthanized.
00:03:18.000So I just was certified in acupuncture.
00:03:21.000And I said, can I try to treat the dog?
00:03:25.000So I gave this dog an acupuncture treatment of six needles.
00:03:30.000When I hit the sixth needle into what's called the heart meridian, the dog woke up and two of the four technicians started to scream and ran out of the building.
00:04:31.000And the reason people were getting rashes, because you put it on a diet where it was detoxifying, and it was excreting chemicals, and they were picking up the chemicals from its skin.
00:04:44.000I wrote a book 22 years ago called The Nature of Animal Healing.
00:04:51.000Yeah, that one was released in February.
00:04:54.000This was released 22 years ago and is still in the top 15 to 20,000 out of 9 million on Amazon.
00:05:01.000One of the fundamental rules I put in there, health is not so much about what you put into your body, but what you allow your body to get rid of.
00:05:12.000Detoxification, on a physical level, So much disease is caused by toxicity.
00:05:17.000And that's when this item that we're going to talk about today called vaccinations comes in.
00:05:24.000And like I said in the documentary that, you know, a good friend of yours, Sidney Meehl, did on me called The Dog Doc, which unfortunately was winning awards all over the United States.
00:05:35.000And it premiered in theaters in New York and L.A. the day before COVID shut everything down.
00:05:40.000She was converted to a lifetime commitment to integrative medicine because of what you did with her Sharpay.
00:08:17.000Talk about feline sarcoma, because I think that's something everybody will be interested in.
00:08:23.000God, I wrote about it in my first book.
00:08:27.000Because if you give a vaccine, it's typically the rabies vaccine, and where the vaccine is injected in the body, a fibrous tumor grows, and no matter how many times you remove it, it grows back and kills the cat.
00:08:43.000So the recommendation in my last book 22 years ago by the Association of Feline Practitioners It's let's vaccinate with the rabies vaccine when your cat comes in, in the lower left leg, and the leukemia vaccine in the lower right leg, so when the tumor grows, we could solve it by amputation.
00:09:26.000I went to a lecture that he gave on the feline sarcoma complex.
00:09:32.000And because most vaccines are given between the shoulder blades, the recommended procedure right now to save the cat's life is what's called five centimeter margins, which is half the cat.
00:09:45.000So they would remove the tops of both shoulder blades, the tops of four or five vertebrae, the tumor, and sew the cat together.
00:09:54.000And then he said, and you're going to love this because you edited a book on that.
00:09:59.000He said, this is not a condition or a syndrome of surgery.
00:10:04.000This is a syndrome of adjuvants, which are the things put into vaccines that enhance absorption to increase the level of immunity.
00:10:16.000And he said, if we get the adjuvants out of vaccines, we will get feline fibrosarcomas out of the cats in our society.
00:10:25.000Why aren't vets listening to one of the number one oncologists in the United States?
00:10:56.000What kind of vaccines do you recommend?
00:10:58.000Because, you know, one of the things that you've been complaining about is the way that vaccines are given to pets.
00:11:04.000A chihuahua gets the same dose as a Great Dane, and it may be that even the chihuahua can get adequate titers, in other words, adequate immune response, or even the Great Dane.
00:12:26.000And they reported their findings that dogs that are vaccinated standardly up to one year of age have a full blown immunity up to five years.
00:12:36.000The reason they didn't go six and seven years is the government ran out of live rabies to continue the study.
00:12:44.000So why are we vaccinating dogs and cats Every three years, and a lot of veterinarians are still vaccinating every single year, when there is a scientific study out there that's saying that the minimum duration of protection of rabies is at least five years.
00:13:04.000Or as I say, when people raise their eyebrows, I look at them and go, when was your last polio shot?
00:13:12.000What's the difference between the dogs and cats and us You go into all these university studies and you'll see the minimum duration of protection to the feline distemper vaccine, the distemper vaccines, the parvo vaccines is 7 to 15 years.
00:13:29.000Why are we vaccinated every year or every three years?
00:13:32.000This is the insanity that I'm trying to go against.
00:13:36.000It's not that I'm a radical trying to be right.
00:13:39.000I just love animals so much, and I've witnessed cancer quadruple in my career.
00:13:46.000And it's not because bad luck or an invasion from Mars.
00:13:50.000There is an insanity going on when it comes to improper or over-vaccinations.
00:13:58.000I just want to put sanity into One of the problems is, and I know there's probably no vet in the country that did not get into veterinary medicine because they love animals.
00:14:09.000There's also an economic driver, the same way there is for pediatricians, who virtually all of them got into their profession by caring for children.
00:14:18.000But there's an economic driver that becomes really almost a mandate for them.
00:14:23.000And with a lot of the childhood vaccination program is driven by the fact that pediatricians make Around, typically, about 50% of their salary, not from selling vaccines, but from the mandated wellness visits, the traffic that comes in.
00:14:41.000Because, you know, when I was a kid, I only went to the pediatrician when I fell off my bike and I needed the stitches.
00:14:48.000But today, the pediatricians really rely on that constant traffic, you know, the wellness visits that are scheduled for kids to come in and get their vaccines.
00:15:00.000They need that economic driver too, right?
00:15:03.000It's considered 50% of a vet's income is vaccines and other stuff.
00:15:09.000There was an article done in the Wall Street Journal, I think it was cover page, about vaccines.
00:15:16.000And it was done by this very wealthy businessman from Denver, Colorado that I contacted because he got the rabies vaccine and had a severe autoimmune crisis and died.
00:15:45.000The Wall Street Journal went into veterinary hospitals and they did an entire analysis.
00:15:51.000They determined the markup on vaccinations.
00:15:53.000When you not only look at the price it cost a veterinarian and what he charges, but the ease of administration, the lack of bookkeeping, you don't have to take blood samples, fill up lab forms, get technicians to send titers in and this and that.
00:16:28.000I say right now, a rabies vaccine appointment and a full wellness check is 20 to 30 minutes, and you charge $35 for that vaccine.
00:16:39.000My office visit for one hour for an integrated veterinarian in health care It's $640, plus I take all the blood work and I do analysis.
00:16:50.000So every time I give a rabies vaccine, I lose $500 to $700.
00:16:54.000And they wake up, because veterinary can generate even more capital on focusing on health, not disease.
00:17:04.000Unfortunately, medicine has become a disease-oriented establishment.
00:17:08.000We diagnose disease and then drug it, but we learn how to quote-unquote prevent disease by using agents that cause disease.
00:17:19.000So we're a disease-oriented establishment.
00:17:22.000You talk about cancer, but do they get that, you know, the whole, are there similar explosions in chronic disease?
00:17:29.000Yes, I would think in my experience, you know, I've been a clinical veterinarian for almost a half a century, and with my associates, all the consultations I've done, I've worked on well over 100,000 patients, maybe up near 200,000.
00:17:48.000And I have near photographic memory still, so I remember a lot.
00:17:53.000And I would say a good 80-85% of the diseases we see, especially in dogs, have some kind of allergic manifestation or autoimmune manifestation.
00:18:05.000Well, that's really what autoimmunity is.
00:18:07.000That's kind of the definition of autoimmunity.
00:18:21.000The vaccinated but not the non-vaccinated dogs in the Purdue studies developed autoantibodies to many of their own biochemicals, including fibronectin, laminin, DNA, albumin, cytochrome C, and collagen.
00:18:40.000So it's proven at Purdue Veterinary College That vaccines instigate the body's own antibodies to go against its own body.
00:18:54.000And what makes this so complicated and so insane is that we are so unnecessarily, repetitively vaccinating animals Year after year, with doses up to 100 times what a chihuahua needs, when it's clinically proven, scientifically proven, they don't even need the damn things.
00:20:15.000And when there is scientific studies from the university vet school in Madison, Wisconsin, showing that the minimum duration of protection from a distemper vaccine, standardly given, is 7 to 15 years, don't vaccinate that dog every year or every three years for the rest of their life.
00:20:35.000Because you're just going to blow out their immune system giving something that is totally unnecessary.
00:21:06.000You cannot make an immune system bionic.
00:21:10.000One of the laws of physics is every action has an equal and opposite reaction.
00:21:16.000So if you powerfully stimulate an immune system in the body for distemper or rabies, and you blow it out of the water so they're vaccinated for five lifetimes, what happens to other parts of the immune system That have to take care of its own cellular structures and things like that.
00:21:35.000That's why we've seen so many chronic degenerative illnesses, arthritis, kidney failure, diabetes, and especially cancer and autoimmune disease rise tremendously.
00:22:19.000Especially when the Rabies Challenge Fund right now, any veterinarian listening to this, or any patient of a veterinarian, tell them to look up the Rabies Challenge Fund where they scientifically proved through the U.S. government And the University of Madison, Wisconsin, that the minimum duration of proper rabies vaccines up to one year of age lasts at least five years.
00:22:53.000When you've seen as much cancer, I've seen 45,000 cases of cancer in my career.
00:22:58.000It's heart-wrenching, especially when they're two years old.
00:23:02.000You know what, I have a wildlife rehabilitation license in New York State, a federal license, but at one point they made us all get rabies shots because I think there was a raccoon outbreak in the state and so we all had to get those shots and I shudder to think, you know, what that shot did to me.
00:23:24.000I mean, I'm okay, but, you know, who knows.
00:23:49.000On September 3rd of 2016, from this veterinary hospital, the rabies vaccination your pet has just received has been medically tested to be effective for a period of three years.
00:24:01.000However, because of the epidemic proportion of rabies occurring in this area, I looked it up, it was two raccoons in that year, we strongly recommend your pet be revaccinated on an annual basis.
00:24:15.000We could actually go to the Attorney General of Connecticut on false advertising because they're stating that the vaccine is proven to be effective for three years.
00:24:27.000They're hyping up the condition because there is no epidemic or rabies in this area.
00:24:31.000And they're unfortunately vaccinating all their patients every year.
00:24:35.000This is what I'm trying to come out against.
00:24:38.000Just like in your life, which I admire so much.
00:25:39.000Do you know how Rick became an integrated veterinarian?
00:25:42.000He was, as he said, pissed off that one of his clients came to me years ago, 15, 18 years ago, and that I claimed I was curing cancer using diet.
00:26:15.000I picked him up at LaGuardia Airport and he came, he saw my presentation, he came to my practice and He saw the patients, reviewed the records, and like in the documentary, we had a German Shepherd that was paralyzed for three months.
00:26:33.000The number one neurologist in the United States gave it up as hopeless.
00:26:37.000I gave this dog an acupuncture treatment, and just like Paul Kupchak's little hamster, the dog got up and walked, and Rick Palmquist fainted.
00:27:28.000Where do people who are listening to this podcast, where do they find a vet like you?
00:27:33.000That's a great question because I needed to cover that.
00:27:37.000The American Holistic Veterinary Medical Association, AA, VHVMA.org has a listing of all the integrative veterinarians in the United States and in Canada, city by state, city by city, sometimes town by town, and what modalities they practice.
00:28:00.000And, you know, when I started, there was two or three Now, fortunately, they're all over the place, popping up.
00:28:09.000You know, I told you the arrow holes that you can count on my back when I became an acupuncturist.
00:28:14.000Now, 63% of the veterinary colleges in the United States embrace acupuncture.
00:28:22.0001978, my license was threatened verbally for treating arthritic dogs with glucosamine sulfate instead of drugs.
00:28:30.000Do you know how much glucosamine sulfate is prescribed now and sold in veterinary medicine?
00:28:35.000You know, one of the joys of my life right now is because acupuncture is so accepted.
00:28:39.000I go to veterinary conferences and these veterinarians that were really criticizing me, they come up to me and says, you know, you were so far ahead of your time.
00:29:26.000And this is a one hour and 41 minute, very enjoyable, full movie about integrative medicine with graphics and all of that stuff in the movie.
00:29:38.000But it really shows not only the struggle that I've gone through just to bring the truth out, but how we need to integrate conventional and alternative.
00:29:49.000Holistic medicine is Is not the other side of conventional medicine.
00:29:54.000Holistic medicine is treating the whole body, and it is the umbrella over conventional and alternative therapies.