RFK Jr. The Defender - Silencing Of Doctors Dr. Peter McCullough's New Book

Dr. Peter McCulloch is a cardiologist and the most knowledgeable person alive on the treatment of COVID-19. John Leak is an historian and novelist who s written a bunch of award-winning novels. The two of these gentlemen have collaborated to do a non-fiction chronicle of the suppression of early treatment disease. Deliberate, purposeless, and lethal suppression of treatment during COVID has occurred over the course of two years, and Dr. McCulloch has been harshly punished and silenced by the medical cartel. Dr. Leak, on the other hand, has continued to speak out, and has been rewarded for his efforts. In this episode, the two discuss how they got involved in this work, and how they came to collaborate on a new novel. They also talk about how they became friends, and what it means to be skeptical of the medical orthodoxy. And, of course, they talk about their new novel, The Dark Side of the Dark Side Of . which is out now, and it s a must-read novel about COVID and the drug war in which they co-author, John Leake, takes a deep dive into the dark history of the disease and its impact on our understanding of the pandemic. CoVID and why it s so important that we should all be questioning the medical establishment s approach to this pandemic and why we should be taking care of this disease in the way we do the things we do in the first place. and what we should do to prevent it in the next time it comes up in 2020. Thank you to Dr. Peter, John, for coming on the show, and for joining us in this episode. . . . and for writing about it. Thanks for listening and for being on the podcast, and thanks for being a friend of the show thank you for listening to the show and for sharing it with the podcast and for supporting the podcast. , and for helping us to make this podcast . and for making it a podcast and sharing it so we can keep talking about it in the future with others like it, and spreading it around the word , and so much love and support it everywhere all the love and respect and support everywhere we get it and all the more. - Your support is so much appreciated, and we really do appreciate it. Thank you.

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, I'm really happy to have two amazing guests today.

00:00:05.000 One is my old friend, Dr.

00:00:07.000 Peter McCulloch.

00:00:08.000 This is his third visit to our show.

00:00:12.000 And as you all know, Peter McCulloch is a cardiologist.

00:00:16.000 He is the most published Physician in his specialty in history.

00:00:23.000 He is probably one of the, if not the most knowledgeable, person alive on the treatment of COVID-19.

00:00:33.000 He published in August of 2020 a seminal article that was the most downloaded.

00:00:44.000 The entire pandemic on a sequential use of various drugs, including ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine and monoclonal antibodies and others in the treatment of COVID-19.

00:00:59.000 He has been harshly punished and silenced by the medical cartel.

00:01:06.000 He has nevertheless continued to speak up.

00:01:09.000 My other guest is John Leak, who is an historian and novelist who's written a bunch of award-winning novels.

00:01:20.000 And the two of these gentlemen have collaborated to do a non-fiction chronicle of the suppression of early treatment disease.

00:01:31.000 Deliberate, purposeful, and lethal suppression of early treatment during COVID. I have not read it.

00:01:38.000 We're going to hear about its announcement, but this is really the announcement for this new novel, and we're all very, very anxious to read it.

00:01:49.000 I wanted to have my friend Peter McCullough, who's one of the great, great heroes of the last two years, and asked my guest to talk briefly about this work.

00:01:59.000 So, Peter, tell us what happened and how you got here.

00:02:02.000 Well, let me just thank you for being on the program.

00:02:04.000 I wish you the best of luck, and it's a great pleasure.

00:02:06.000 I'm Dr.

00:02:07.000 Peter McCullough.

00:02:07.000 I'm a practicing internist and cardiologist in Dallas, Texas.

00:02:10.000 I'm trained in epidemiology, and I have put everything into the pandemic response from a professional perspective.

00:02:18.000 And I have doubled down and tripled down and quadrupled down on the principles that we can treat the illness early to avoid hospitalization and death.

00:02:28.000 And by that mechanism, we actually reduce the spread of illness and we bring the pandemic to a close.

00:02:36.000 In my view, the lack of treatment of COVID-19 early is what has precipitated these hospitalizations and deaths that's occurred all over the world.

00:02:46.000 I've testified under oath now, November of 2020, March of 2021, and now January of 2022.

00:02:54.000 Now, there was a learning curve.

00:02:56.000 As we developed the protocols, more scientific data came in.

00:03:01.000 That the total estimate is exactly what you said.

00:03:04.000 Two-thirds of those deaths could have been avoided.

00:03:07.000 Those lives could have been saved.

00:03:09.000 Right now, if someone contracts COVID-19, a high-risk patient, which I have in my practice, my estimates are that treatment, using a multi-drug approach, results in a 95% reduction in hospitalization and death.

00:03:24.000 We should not have the suffering and fear that we have seen over the course of two years.

00:03:31.000 Well, let's bring John in.

00:03:32.000 Yeah, John, I did not mean to ignore you.

00:03:35.000 Tell us how you got involved in this.

00:03:37.000 I'm a true crime author.

00:03:39.000 I've written a couple of true crime books with a strong medical component.

00:03:44.000 I lived abroad for many years.

00:03:46.000 And looking at true crimes with elements of medical mystery, where you have to consult With forensic doctors, forensic pathologists.

00:03:57.000 So I kind of developed a sort of affinity and a knack for reading forensic medical literature.

00:04:03.000 You know, I began to think about Africa.

00:04:05.000 I mean, I used to receive hydroxychloroquine as a malaria prophylaxis when I would go to Africa.

00:04:12.000 The doctors didn't think twice about writing the prescription.

00:04:16.000 But then quite suddenly, with COVID upon us, there was this sudden talk of hydroxychloroquine being dangerous.

00:04:24.000 Well, no one had ever discussed it being dangerous.

00:04:27.000 I mean, all of the rheumatoid arthritis and lupus and malaria prophylaxis, there was never talk for 60 years of it being dangerous.

00:04:37.000 There was talk in the 60s of heart arrhythmias, but I saw an interview with the rheumatologist and he said the point back then was the dosing was much, much higher.

00:04:48.000 Back in the 50s and 60s, he said we in rheumatology realized these high dosages of hydroxychloroquine weren't necessary.

00:04:56.000 So I realized I needed a top medical authority to help me to conduct my inquiry.

00:05:04.000 And this is what I think is the most charming part of the story.

00:05:08.000 I thought he's got to be a top medical authority, but he also has to be one who's challenging the orthodoxy, who is saying, well, I'm beginning to wonder or to take a skeptical posture about what we're being told.

00:05:23.000 So I began to think, well, where would I find such a medical authority who's questioning the orthodoxy?

00:05:29.000 And I thought he could be anywhere in the world.

00:05:31.000 I'd have to travel.

00:05:33.000 It might be a difficult endeavor.

00:05:36.000 Turns out Dr.

00:05:37.000 McCullough lives two miles away from my home in Dallas.

00:05:41.000 So we were able to easily meet.

00:05:43.000 We began to collaborate a year ago in writing this story in narrative fashion, and we've just now come out with our book.

00:05:50.000 Where can people get the book, John?

00:05:53.000 I recommend going to our website, CourageToFaceCovid.com, and there's a portal to Amazon.

00:06:00.000 We're going to expand our distribution beyond Amazon, but at the time being here, at the very beginning out of the gate, the easiest way to get it right now is through our website, CourageToFaceCovid.com, with a portal to Amazon.

00:06:16.000 You know, you talk about Africa, and I spent a lot of time in Africa as a kid and as a teenager in my early 20s.

00:06:23.000 Of course, all the tourists who go to Africa, like them, I took hydroxychloroquine. 0.81

00:06:30.000 There was never any discussion.

00:06:32.000 There's entire populations in Africa.

00:06:35.000 I take hydroxychloroquine weekly.

00:06:38.000 In fact, it's called in many of the African countries, it's called by the term Sunday, Sunday, because traditionally people take the drug on Sunday.

00:06:47.000 It's been given billions of doses over 60 years.

00:06:52.000 It's an essential medicine by the World Health Organization, and it's over the counter in almost all the nations in Africa.

00:07:01.000 Many other countries around the world.

00:07:03.000 And suddenly, as you say, during the beginning of this pandemic, when they knew that hydroxychloroquine worked, because in 2005, during the SARS epidemic, they were testing, which is what public health authorities are supposed to do.

00:07:21.000 They were looking for repurposed medications that would be effective against SARS, which is, of course, a coronavirus.

00:07:31.000 And they tested hundreds and hundreds of repurposed medications and the one that they found worked best was hydroxychloroquine and they found that it worked not only and they tested it in cell cultures and they learned that not only was it an effective Treatment because it immediately killed and stopped viral replication, killed the virus and stopped replication.

00:07:55.000 But it was also devastatingly effective as a prophylactic.

00:08:00.000 And that study and other studies were well known to Tony Fauci.

00:08:05.000 And that's one of the reasons that we assume as soon as coronavirus was identified in January, there was a global push.

00:08:18.000 Very, very bizarre by African governments, by European governments, by the Canadian government, by France, for example, to remove access to hydroxychloroquine, to stop the population from accessing it.

00:08:34.000 And we know that people can say, well, the reason that Nigeria did so well is because it had a younger population.

00:08:43.000 But Japan did well, too.

00:08:45.000 It had a death rate one-tenth the United States per population because it made these drugs available.

00:08:53.000 And if you look at the Central American countries, the countries that handed it out, they essentially avoided having any kind of pandemic at all.

00:09:03.000 And it's interesting to consider that In our country, blacks had 3.6 times the death rate of whites from COVID. But blacks in Africa had 1 200th the death rate.

00:09:19.000 And the big difference is that they had access to these life-saving repurposed drugs.

00:09:27.000 Yes, sir.

00:09:27.000 That's really our theme.

00:09:30.000 It's a crime.

00:09:31.000 It's a deliberate suppression, a deliberate impeding of people who could get into trouble with this illness, deliberately preventing them from accessing drugs that could help keep them out of hospital facilities.

00:09:49.000 And so we go through this earlier literature that emerged after the SARS in 2003, the CDC study you mentioned.

00:09:58.000 When we came to the same conclusion that you did, that it's precisely because they worked that they were suppressed.

00:10:07.000 I thought that you and your family were in a very good position to interpret a lot of this stuff because of your history and government Your somewhat tragic history in government, a kind of understanding.

00:10:20.000 I remember I read an article that you wrote about the Syrian pipeline wars.

00:10:25.000 A lot of this geopolitical stuff has got nothing to do with Islamic terrorism.

00:10:29.000 It's actually vying for pipeline control.

00:10:33.000 And what is it about these big military complexes or now this biopharmaceutical complex that becomes so voracious And so, ruthless and unmoored from ethical considerations.

00:10:49.000 This is kind of one of the mysteries that we grapple with in the book.

00:10:54.000 This veracity to pursue these agendas that sort of leaves ethics out of the equation.

00:11:01.000 So, we read your book with great interest.

00:11:04.000 It was a marvelous work of scholarship.

00:11:06.000 I'm not saying that just to flatter you.

00:11:08.000 We appreciated your work.

00:11:10.000 But the question is, Why this unethical pursuit of these agendas?

00:11:18.000 And so this is the mystery that we grapple with in our book.

00:11:22.000 Yeah, I would add to that.

00:11:24.000 We had a clear impression that it was only the therapies that really worked That we're being actively suppressed.

00:11:31.000 So the first was hydroxychloroquine.

00:11:34.000 And you know, when the FDA put its final word on hydroxychloroquine in the summer of 2020, it says, do not use it.

00:11:42.000 The research didn't stop.

00:11:44.000 You know, over 300 supportive studies, many dozens of randomized trials all stopped early.

00:11:49.000 All we needed to see was a signal of benefit, acceptable safety.

00:11:53.000 We understood how to use the drug.

00:11:55.000 I prescribed it for 30 years in my practice.

00:11:58.000 Hydroxychloroquine is a part of official government recommendations in over two dozen countries.

00:12:03.000 That was the first year.

00:12:04.000 The second year of the pandemic was the year of ivermectin.

00:12:07.000 Even more dynamic, even had more supportive data, inpatient and outpatient, 85 total supportive studies, over 35 randomized trials, bigger overall benefit.

00:12:18.000 There, the NIH And the American Medical Association launch a war against ivermectin.

00:12:25.000 The AMA has an official campaign to abolish the use of ivermectin.

00:12:30.000 We've never seen this before.

00:12:32.000 The American Medical Association taking up an issue on a drug that doctors have found useful worldwide.

00:12:38.000 Again, two dozen government guidelines actually say to use ivermectin.

00:12:44.000 And you're right, it worked.

00:12:45.000 I was on an author block with Dr.

00:12:47.000 Ante and colleagues down in Honduras.

00:12:48.000 We clearly showed That ivermectin won the day there, but it didn't stop.

00:12:53.000 There was suppression of corticosteroids.

00:12:55.000 Ron Johnson saw this.

00:12:56.000 He brought Pierre Corey in.

00:12:57.000 The very first set of Senate testimony was on the corticosteroids.

00:13:00.000 It was Pierre Corey.

00:13:01.000 Then the next round in November, myself, Harvey Rich, and George Freed came in on hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, and the other drugs, and they kept going.

00:13:10.000 But there was no matter what we did that we actually found that worked, we were actively being suppressed at multiple levels.

00:13:17.000 Federal agencies The biopharmaceutical complex, medical systems, hospitals, medical societies, licensing boards, pharmacy boards, it was a complete and total suppression of our attempts to save lives.

00:13:35.000 Sort of the most sinister aspects when you look at all of this kind of convergence where all of these power centers simultaneously move to block public access to this life-saving drug and to funnel people instead to a $200 billion vaccine enterprise that, was all tied in with government controls and with the military and intelligence apparatus.

00:14:03.000 It was really quite extraordinary.

00:14:05.000 And as I said, in January, at the very moment that the Chinese released the genomic sequence or the COVID, you had the French government, the Canadian government within days taking this drug that was for decades had been an over-the-counter the Canadian government within days taking this drug that was for decades had been an over-the-counter drug and suddenly reclassifying it as a toxic substance that you can only

00:14:33.000 You had testimony that all across Africa there were men showing up at pharmacies with trucks buying out the supplies of hydroxychloroquine and burning them in bonfires and You had Sanofi and the other big producers,

00:14:54.000 hydroxychloroquine, who were pressured to donate their entire stocks to the National Strategic Stockpile, which then they can get tax deductions and payments for.

00:15:07.000 But the stockpile then froze access, so they took the whole U.S. supply Purchased it and then locked off, blocked off its access to the public.

00:15:20.000 You had facilities that produced ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine burning up and blowing up.

00:15:27.000 In Taiwan, one of the biggest producers in the world, one of the biggest factories and mysterious arson.

00:15:33.000 And then, of course, you had the system that you talked about where the medical boards were blocking access.

00:15:42.000 We have this campaign to discredit this drug as a horse medicine, to repeat Tony Fauci as a horse medication.

00:15:50.000 Well, as you know, antibiotics You know, the major, very, very, the most effective drugs that work on humans, coincidentally and not surprisingly, work on all mammals.

00:16:05.000 And so they are veterinary medicines.

00:16:08.000 But to say, to claim that you're taking a horse medicine is totally absurd.

00:16:13.000 So you had this concerted campaign at every different level.

00:16:18.000 And it's hard to interpret that as innocent.

00:16:24.000 And of course, the licensing boards and the universities coming after people like you.

00:16:30.000 You were the most dangerous person out there.

00:16:34.000 Because, you know, I'm not a medical doctor.

00:16:37.000 People could say, oh, don't listen to him.

00:16:39.000 He's not a physician.

00:16:40.000 But you, Peter McCulloch, is the most published physician in his field.

00:16:49.000 And a practicing cardiologist with a long, long history of credibility.

00:16:56.000 And for you to come forward, and Pierre Corey to come forward, would really change the debate.

00:17:01.000 And ultimately, Robert Malone.

00:17:04.000 Who invented the technology for the mRNA vaccine and you three physicians really changed the debate and then all of you had your careers essentially destroyed.

00:17:17.000 Well, John chronicles that, and it's been so hard to describe to the public what happened, and through his wonderful writing of creating a narrative, taking all this complex reality that you've just summarized, but actually putting it into a narrative that the common person can understand, we're hoping will develop a broader understanding in the public.

00:17:41.000 So we really hope this book has a public health impact, like all the important books.

00:17:46.000 Well, Peter McCulloch and John Lee, good luck with the book.

00:17:51.000 Let me know what I can do to help promote it.

00:17:54.000 This is a story that Americans need to hear.

00:17:58.000 Thank you, Mr.

00:17:59.000 Kennedy.

00:17:59.000 It's available now.

00:18:00.000 Your listeners can find it at the website CourageToFaceCovid.com.

00:18:06.000 Peter and John, tell us why people need to read this book.

00:18:10.000 What we're seeing here and what Mr.

00:18:13.000 Kennedy was just summarizing is the world has experienced a massive crime.

00:18:18.000 It's a crime against humanity.

00:18:20.000 Our book chronicles as these events are unfolding, as Dr.

00:18:26.000 McCullough and his colleagues were scrambling to find ways first to treat the illness, And then once they began to piece together effective treatments, then they had to enter the second phase of the battle, which was against this deliberate suppression by our public health authorities and our police.

00:18:49.000 I think our book, The Courage to Face COVID-19, will enable readers to see how these events unfolded, all of the intrigues and the fraud and the propaganda campaign, and they will see that what has been visited upon the human race is a big crime.

00:19:09.000 I would add to that that populations worldwide over the course of now greater than two years have been listening to a false narrative.

00:19:23.000 And many of them know it's a false narrative.

00:19:26.000 They know things don't make sense in their cognitive framework.

00:19:29.000 They know they see things that are absurd.

00:19:32.000 They see behaviors that don't make sense.

00:19:35.000 The reason why this book is so important is It's because it is a window to the true narrative.

00:19:42.000 What really can and should be done to treat a deadly illness, and it chronicles with a lot of detail, and I think the appropriate amount of ethos and pathos and lojos, the desire for brave doctors,

00:19:59.000 nurses, patients, and families to To fulfill their oath to one another, to fulfill the Hippocratic Oath in Medicine, but to fulfill an oath to humanity, to help one another get through a crisis, and what we did in the face of a crime, a crime that was being committed against humanity, of which we're all now victims of that crime.

00:20:24.000 John, tell us again where people can get the book.

00:20:28.000 I encourage everybody to go to our website, couragetofacecovid.com.

00:20:34.000 And there you'll learn a little bit about us and our book.

00:20:37.000 And there is a link to purchase the book.

00:20:41.000 Thank you very much, gentlemen.

00:20:42.000 And good luck on the book.

00:20:44.000 Let me know how we can help.

RFK Jr. The Defender - June 06, 2022

Silencing Of Doctors Dr. Peter McCullough's New Book

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