In this episode, Dr. Meryl Nast joins me to talk about her work as a pediatric infectious disease physician, her opposition to biological weapons, and her fight for public health and public safety. Dr. Nast is an expert in public health, bioweapon research, and public policy, and has been involved in the fight against the use of biological weapons. She is a force to be reckoned with in the field of infectious disease research and public health. She has been a champion of public safety, and is a fierce opponent of the war on Ebola and other infectious diseases. She is also a fierce critic of the government's response to the Ebola crisis, and a fierce advocate for public safety and public trust in the CDC and other agencies involved in fighting against the spread of infectious diseases like Ebola, Lyme disease, and other diseases that pose a threat to our health and liberty. We talk about how important it is to have access to basic medical care, and the need to protect our children, and our families, from infectious diseases and other agents that threaten to devastate our health, and how we can protect ourselves and our children from these agents and their families from them. I m so grateful to have her on the show, and I hope you do the same. Thank you for listening and supporting this podcast. I really appreciate your support and your support of this podcast! and I ll see you at the rally in DC on Nov. 19, where I ll be speaking in Washington, D.C. in the coming days. Thanks for listening, Meryl! - Tom and I appreciate you, Tom. . Tom -Tom Bill Tim ( ) (p. (Tom) (Bill) . (Sue (Meryl ) (Marilyn (John) ( ) (P. ( ) . (Karen ) ( ) (Julia (J. (Alicia ) and Sarah (R) (Alyssa ) . ) (S. (R.) (Sandra (B. (J.) (A. ) ) (K. ) (R. (M. (D) ) & J. (V. (C. (B.) ) ) .) (J) (C.) ) (V) (SORRY FOR SUPPORTING THIS PODCAST)
00:00:11.000And many of you who have been around this movement for any period of time know her name.
00:00:18.000She's a major figure in public health and protecting children.
00:00:23.000And also, she's one of the, I think, the most reliable experts on bioweapons and biowarfare and She was one of the most eloquent critics of the anthrax vaccines.
00:00:38.000She played a key role in the court cases to protect the military from those vaccines.
00:00:44.000She was a critic of the Ebola response.
00:00:46.000She's an incredible researcher, very, very careful, diligent, and she's one of the people that I rely on Or fact checking.
00:00:56.000So if I say something that is wrong, I usually get a very polite note from Meryl saying you can't say that because the facts don't support it.
00:01:12.000She's really one of the best people I've ever met from a lot of every important viewpoint or integrity or values.
00:01:21.000And her competence as a physician, if I or a member of my family had a really serious problem, I cannot think of a physician that I'd rather entrust my personal health to, my family's health to, than Marilyn has.
00:01:39.000And she's amazing because she has this great curiosity about the world.
00:01:56.000Even Robert Malone when he got married.
00:01:59.000Sick from COVID, Meryl was a physician that he consulted, and Meryl has been with us on meeting with Attorney General.
00:02:12.000She's somebody that everybody relies on in her integrity, and the reason that I have her on here today, I think if Hippocrates had to Describe an ideal physician that would look like Meryl Nass.
00:02:26.000The reason I have her on here today is because Meryl is from Maine, and the Medical Licensing Board of Maine has just delicensed her for prescribing ivermectin.
00:02:41.000Not only that, but in a Manoeuvre that is frighteningly reminiscent of the old Soviet state.
00:02:52.000They have ordered her a psychiatric evaluation.
00:02:57.000And, you know, it's really, it's an amazing story about where we are in this country.
00:03:04.000We're actually practicing physicians who are healers are being punished and are being punished.
00:03:13.000Vilified, gaslighted, marginalized, destroyed, delicensed, and then, you know, potentially, you know, clearly the ambition is to lock her in a mental institution and rid ourselves of these people who ask questions about official marriage.
00:03:34.000Meryl, I'm about to take off for a couple of weeks, including to the Washington DC rally, where I think you're going to be speaking.
00:03:43.000But I wanted to, I really wanted to have you on to talk about this because it's so alarming what is happening to you today.
00:03:52.000It's so deeply disturbing that in my country, We are seeing this rise of this medical authoritarianism, and so many doctors are involved in this assault on the American Constitution.
00:04:13.000That, I think, is one of the most disturbing things to me.
00:04:20.000Well, as you know, I have followed COVID with intense interest since the very beginning because I have a background in biological warfare and pandemics and I'm an internist.
00:04:36.000So everything about the pandemic was of interest to me and I could make a lot of sense of it.
00:04:42.000and I wrote many articles trying to explain all aspects of it to people, the testing, the masks, the treatments.
00:04:51.000And I discovered early on that the chloroquine drugs were highly effective if used early, and I used them on my son.
00:04:59.000The Chinese were using them widely early.
00:05:02.000They told us in February of 2020 that chloroquine was one of their best drugs.
00:05:09.000They had 20 clinical trials and it was easy to obtain until Trump said it was a good drug.
00:05:16.000And then suddenly at the end of March last year, all sorts of measures were taken in the United States and other countries to suppress its availability, its use, and to give it a black mark, to give it a stain and to stop people using it.
00:05:54.000And I think very few doctors were as familiar with this drug as I was.
00:05:59.000So I started paying attention at that point to the suppression and then started writing articles in May and June describing the suppression, which eventually resulted in 58 different methods by which hydroxychloroquine was being suppressed around the world.
00:06:16.000And then the same thing happened with ivermectin, not on quite as grand a scale, at least I didn't document it as well, but the same thing happened with ivermectin.
00:06:26.000And Then toward the middle of 2021, there was a shift.
00:06:33.000As you know, the medical profession has been given these dreadful guidelines by which they are supposed to treat patients, which is go home, don't do anything except Tylenol and ibuprofen until your lips are blue and then show up in the ER, and then we'll admit you and give you oxygen and maybe remdesivir.
00:06:54.000And then we got monoclonal antibodies and the criteria for using monoclonals varied all over the country.
00:07:01.000So in some places you couldn't get it and in some places a patient could call up and make their own appointment and get it.
00:07:07.000So really the use of monoclonals was not regulated properly and the side effects were not provided to people.
00:07:14.000It's not clear what the side effects are, but I had a couple of patients who had bad reactions to it.
00:07:21.000It's under EUA. Remdesivir was initially under EUA. It got licensed, but it got licensed without data supporting its benefit, and that was very strange.
00:07:32.000So first I saw the suppression of hydroxychloroquine, then I saw the ascent of remdesivir, which didn't make any sense, was not being used in the rest of the world.
00:07:42.000A dangerous drug with very little benefit.
00:07:44.000It wasn't even being used at the right time.
00:07:47.000It might have been somewhat effective if used early when hydroxychloroquine must be used, but it was being used late.
00:07:56.000People were using low doses of dexamethasone, which is somewhat effective.
00:08:00.000But the medical profession was basically being kept in the dark.
00:08:04.000And what shocked me was that they didn't pull the mask off and start reading the literature.
00:08:10.000Paying attention, looking at what other people were doing.
00:08:12.000And even when Pierre Corey and Peter McCullough and Jane Orient went to Congress in December of 2020 and explained how wonderfully well these drugs worked in combinations and that we could really solve the problem of COVID, Ron Johnson had held that hearing.
00:08:33.000Right before he lost his chairmanship when the Dems took over the Senate, YouTube suppressed part of the Senate hearing, one of the Senate hearings, and YouTube decided that any treatment guidelines that were different than the WHO's went against their community guidelines and should not be allowed to be broadcast.
00:09:36.000So, I mean, that was, for whatever reason, YouTube, which is owned by Google and the CEO is the ex-wife of one of the Google founders, for whatever reason, decided to go on a rampage and start censoring medical information.
00:09:51.000Subsequently, all sorts of other social media and channels on the internet also started censoring.
00:09:59.000So here I am, you know, I'm used to living in the United States and really, you know, I've been a doctor 40 years, never seen anything like this before.
00:10:07.000Maybe it happened and I missed it, but it seemed crazy to me.
00:10:11.000And here we had the biggest pandemic ever.
00:10:14.000So, you know, I wrote more and more about it and I, you know, I got more upset.
00:10:19.000I had learned a little bit about the Constitution when I was involved with the anthrax vaccine 20 years ago, and I had learned about FDA law and the CDC, HHS, WHO, NIH, through that time, time, and I knew what they could legally do and what they couldn't legally do and found that they were actually exceeding their authorities, their legal authorities.
00:10:44.000And in fact, Ron Johnson had asked the FDA how it was that it was now telling doctors how to practice medicine rather than simply describing how to use drugs, which is what its mission is supposed to be.
00:10:57.000CDC also started exceeding its mission.
00:11:01.000It started deciding whether landlords could get rid of tenants who didn't pay their bills.
00:11:07.000I mean, this is not a public health measure.
00:11:10.000I mean, CDC claimed it was, but this was an authority that was not granted to it, which the Supreme Court eventually took away from it.
00:11:18.000CDC has a history of acting very politically, but it became extraordinarily political during the pandemic and started creating a lot of statistics that were completely off the wall, statistics regarding numbers of cases Severity of cases,
00:11:38.000efficacy of masks, efficacy of distancing, all sorts of things that was not in accord with the data that was coming out of any other country, and particularly the number of people getting COVID who were vaccinated, where CDC was saying you were 20 times as likely to get COVID if you were unvaccinated, you were 20 times as likely to die.
00:12:06.000They were using the same vaccines we were using, and the data were very different.
00:12:10.000So CDC became a completely corrupt, if it wasn't already, institution.
00:12:16.000And they're all under HHS. And so is HRSA. HRSA manages the payments to people who've been injured by countermeasures.
00:12:27.000Countermeasures are all the EUA products.
00:12:31.000So the initial remdesivir The monoclonal antibodies, the masks, the tests, the vaccines are all under emergency use authorization.
00:12:39.000If you're injured, you can only go to HRSA, which is a health resources agency in HHS, and ask them to pay you damages.
00:12:48.000For COVID, there have been now about 5,000 applications for damages for people who say they've been damaged by an emergency use authorized product.
00:12:58.000And I This CICP, which is within HRSA, the Countermeasures Injury Compensation Program, has apparently said one person It has so far been granted damages.
00:13:10.000That's significant because there's a one-year statute of limitations.
00:13:13.000So you have to prove that your injury was caused by the countermeasure, but CDC and NIH and FDA are suppressing the information that would allow you to prove whether or not your injury was due to a countermeasure.
00:13:27.000So you've got this very brief statute of limitations.
00:13:31.000And it looks like the federal government is trying to basically hang on and wait people out And they'll never be able to collect.
00:13:39.000And, you know, when lots of time has gone by, then they may allow us access to the information so we can figure out how dangerous or safe all of these products are.
00:13:51.000And of course, so I've been writing about this.
00:13:53.000And then my medical board, along with about 15 other medical boards in the country, who were urged to do this by a nonprofit organization called the Federation of State Medical Boards, Said they were going to prosecute doctors for misinformation and disinformation.
00:14:09.000So if I wasn't already upset with where medicine was going, that made me even more upset.
00:14:17.000And I wrote to them and told them, will you please define misinformation and disinformation and tell me under what authority you can create this new crime?
00:14:26.000Because our legislature hasn't been meeting.
00:14:29.000Nobody voted in a new crime of misinformation.
00:14:34.000And these idiots, you know, were told by a nonprofit organization that probably was paid off to advise them to do this.
00:14:42.000And they just sucked it up and spit it out and started threatening doctors.
00:14:48.000And at that point, you know, I decided I was willing to risk my license because this was...
00:14:55.000This was something I was not going to accept.
00:14:58.000And I asked them, I said, look, here's what I told the New Hampshire legislature, which I testified to a couple of months ago.
00:15:16.000So eventually, and so just like the Stasi in East Germany, and this was after World War II, remember, this was up until 1990, the Board of Information told doctors, if you see something, say something.
00:16:37.000And the pharmacist, which because they've been threatened too, they have to check on these prescriptions and find out whether it's an appropriate, legitimate prescription.
00:16:46.000So he called and asked me, what was it for?
00:16:49.000And had I said it was for COVID, he wouldn't have filled it because they're scared they will be investigated by the pharmacy board.
00:16:57.000So I said it was for Lyme, and he filled it.
00:17:00.000The patient got the prescription, and I immediately informed, within minutes, informed the medical board that I had done this and that this was a problem they and the pharmacy board had created, that this was a legal prescription.
00:17:13.000You know, it's my obligation to take care of my patient.
00:17:16.000I was trying to do so, and in order to take the best care of my patient, I was put in a position where I was forced to tell a lie.
00:17:24.000And so that was the fifth matter that the board accused me of.
00:17:29.000Now, I still thought that under the Constitution, there was something called free speech.
00:18:22.000And then they went into executive session and produced a litany of complaints against me.
00:18:28.000All these things I had said to Dr. Mercola and, oh, my medical records weren't, my telehealth was not up to snuff, even though what they were calling telehealth visits was really little short notes on phone calls, text messages, and emails.
00:18:45.000And then they said, you know, my competency with technical things, because I hadn't sent them the text messages exactly right.
00:18:56.000And they had to remind me twice how to send the text messages from a patient encounter.
00:19:02.000that maybe I was, you know, implied maybe I was a little demented.
00:20:44.000And then they said, we want a list of every patient you've seen in the last six months.
00:20:48.000So I thought, huh, now they're going to probably try to figure out where, you know, where they can get the most bang for the buck.
00:20:55.000So they're now on a fishing expedition because they didn't have anything in those first five matters that would be sufficient to really take away my license or show me as crazy.
00:21:07.000They're going to look for something else.
00:21:08.000And when I realized that, you know, I realized there's no reason.
00:21:12.000I mean, also what they did By choosing to force me, because I'm required to, as a doctor, submit to a neuropsych exam, that then takes my case to a whole new level.
00:21:26.000So instead of me being simply an alcoholic or a drug addict that they can rehabilitate, now my name immediately goes to the National Practitioner Database, which means it's going to be hard for me to get another job, hard for me to get a license in another state.
00:21:42.000And the media are informed immediately about my case.
00:21:46.000And that was unusual because for a little, you know, fiddling little case like this, you wouldn't normally put this kind of information out there.
00:21:55.000So anyway, I thought, well, if they wanted to get media on this case, they can get media on the case.
00:22:08.000So let me just reiterate, there has not been a single complaint to the board by a patient in this case, not one.
00:22:17.000You have never been accused or charged with malpractice in 41 years of practicing medicine.
00:22:24.000You only had one complaint to a medical board 15 years ago.
00:22:30.000And that complainant apologized to you after the investigation, once he learned that your treatment was excellent.
00:22:38.000The board found it in your favor at that time.
00:22:41.000You are listed in who's who in America and who's who in the world for your accomplishments, including the first scientific analysis of an epidemic that proved it was due to biological warfare.
00:22:55.000You have spent a career trying to serve patients who were left behind by the prevailing medical system.
00:23:01.000This includes soldiers being forced to receive dangerous anthrax vaccines and those who were injured by veterans with Gulf War syndrome, patients with chronic fatigue syndrome, With Lyme disease, other doctors were unable to diagnose and treat.
00:23:20.000You have pivoted your practice to focus on the best care of COVID precisely because other doctors failed to prescribe treatments that would keep the vast majority out of the hospitals.
00:23:31.000You charge, this is the kind of doctor Meryl Nass is, $60 to treat COVID. This is a one-time fee.
00:23:42.000And you get the patients that get as much treatment as needed with no additional cost.
00:23:53.000This is the doctor that we all wish we had.
00:23:57.000And this is the doctor who's being railroaded by these criminal technocrats on the main licensing board for medicine.
00:24:09.000And the question is, who are these people and how do we figure out ways to punish them?
00:24:17.000How do the American people figure out ways to punish this criminal enterprise that is trying to silence this wonderful doctor because they don't want patients healed.
00:24:32.000They want to be able to support patients The pharmaceutical narrative, pharmaceutical paradigm, pharmaceutical products, and silence people who are questioning these authorities.
00:25:11.000They cannot see beyond what the government is telling them.
00:25:16.000I understand that we have a system right now where the decision was made to, quote, flood the waves, flood the airwaves, flood the zone, and a uniform message about the dangers of these drugs.
00:25:31.000And the benefits of the garbage that the government is prescribing for people is universally heard if you turn on the TV or the radio.
00:25:40.000However, probably about 30 or 40% of the population has not bought into that.
00:25:46.000And these are the people who seek me out.
00:25:51.000Every single one of my patients is a word of mouth.
00:25:54.000And so these people chose something different and the state using these people on the board as their, you know, lackeys is doing its best to prevent people from getting information because I have a blog and they obviously don't like my blog.
00:26:12.000and preventing them from accessing the drugs.
00:26:15.000The idea is to force everybody into government-determined medical care.
00:26:21.000Shoot everybody up with the same vaccine, give them the same medications.
00:26:25.000I tell you, looking back on the last 20 years, I think the system has been trying to destroy the reputation of doctors, destroy the doctor-patient relationship, force this electronic medical record spits out treatments for doctors.
00:26:41.000So if they punch in COVID, the computer tells them remdesivir.
00:26:49.000One person came to me, their mother was in the hospital, and the doctors wanted to give a woman this Janus kinase drug.
00:27:01.000Well, it's another experimental drug for COVID. I looked it up.
00:27:06.000The label says that if you take it, the mortality rate is higher than if you don't.
00:27:12.000And so, you know, I don't know if the mother was going to be enrolled in a clinical trial.
00:27:17.000The doctor couldn't tell the family very much about it.
00:27:20.000But the medical system here in Maine, we have two large medical systems and everybody else, all other doctors were not part of those two systems.
00:28:16.000I remember the Clintons saw that medicine was a huge cottage industry that was taking up about 15% of GNP. And they said, we have to get our hands on this.
00:28:29.000I mean, they encouraged larger and larger institutions to form.
00:28:34.000So if you've got a doctor's office and you've got one or two doctors and a couple of nurses and a couple of secretaries, everybody knows you.
00:28:42.000And the doctors remember your history.
00:28:46.000If you have a system where there's 100 doctors and 500 nurses, nobody knows you and nobody is responsible.
00:28:53.000And the entire feeling of medical care changes.
00:28:58.000So that seems to be what we're dealing with now, and I don't like it, and I'm happy.
00:29:04.000If it's necessary for me to lose my license to fight this, I will do so.
00:29:11.000I mean, my profession is being destroyed from the inside, and I don't want to stand for it.
00:29:16.000So, 400 years before Christ, Hippocrates set out the code for doctors, which doctors have followed up.
00:29:27.000Every doctor when they're in medical school takes a Hippocratic oath, and that oath says that the relationship between the doctor and patient is sacred.
00:29:36.000That the obligation of the doctor is to the patient.
00:29:53.000But you tell your doctor it's privileged information because we want that confidentiality.
00:29:58.000We want individuals to have faith that their doctor is the two of them against the world, that the doctor has no obligation to anybody else except the individual he's treating.
00:30:12.000It is the central basis of Western medicine for 2,500 years.
00:30:17.000And now you have these technocrats like Tony Fauci Who are saying we're going to change that relationship.
00:30:25.000He said the obligation of the doctor is not to the patient.
00:31:12.000And I am asking everybody who is listening to this podcast today, we are going to post, attached to this podcast to our website, a list of the names of all the members of this medical board.
00:31:27.000And Meryl doesn't know that I'm going to say this to you today, but I am so angry at what they're doing to her.
00:31:33.000And I hope all of the people who are listening to this podcast share my rage at these charlatans, these frauds, these quacks outers.
00:31:45.000We need to tell them that we are not going to stand for it.
00:31:49.000We're going to tell them that we want our medical advice given to us by doctors who are healers and not technocrats who are functionaries of a medical cartel and a pharmaceutical industry.
00:32:06.000I'm going to post the names of all of these members of this rogue board And I hope that all of you will take the time to write them a note and express your feelings about what you're doing.
00:32:18.000And I can tell you I'm going to be sitting around.
00:32:22.000Trying to figure out if there's a way to sue them, sue them individually, sue them as a group, sue them for racketeering and fraud, whatever we can do to get justice and to return the medical profession to what it's supposed to do, which is healing.
00:32:39.000Meryl Nass, thank you so much for your courage.
00:32:42.000You know, we support you, we love you, and we will continue to do so.