RFK Jr. The Defender - March 08, 2024


Why Ozempic Matters with Calley Means


Episode Stats

Length

4 minutes

Words per Minute

187.00389

Word Count

801

Sentence Count

42


Summary

Robert Kiyosaki is an advocate for changing the incentives of the healthcare system, and he s a graduate of Stanford and Harvard Business School. In this episode, he talks about why obesity is one of the most important issues facing the country right now, and how we can fix it. Robert is also a good friend of mine, and I think it s really important for people to hear what he s been saying for years about the need to change the incentives that drive our health care system. I m really proud to have him on the show to talk about his fight, and it s great to be able to bring him on to speak to so many people in the fight to make sure that everyone has access to quality, affordable, and accessible health care. I think you ll agree that he s got a lot to say about the current state of our healthcare system and we should all pay attention to it, because it s not good enough, and we need to fix it, and that s what we ve got to do, not only in the short term, but in the long term, to improve our health and our overall well-being. Thank you for listening, and for supporting the show. - Robert and I hope you enjoy the show, and don t forget to share it with your friends, family, and family and friends! Tweet me if you liked it! Timestamps: 1:00:00 - Why obesity is a problem, not a crisis 3:30 - Is there a cure for obesity? 4: Why obesity a problem? 5:00 6: How much more important than diabetes? 7:15 - What can we fix it? 8: What are we fixable? 9:40 - What is the best way to fix obesity? 10:00 | How should we incentivize metabolic health? 11:10 - Should we fix our food system? 12:30 13:10 14:40 15:15 16:40 | What s the role of the pharmaceutical industry? 17:15 | Why do we fix metabolic health in the 21st century? 14:30 | What is a chronic disease system? 15:20 | How do we have to fix metabolic habits? 15 - What are you going to fix this problem? 16:10 | How can we stop obesity and diabetes and heart disease in the first place?


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, I'm really happy today.
00:00:02.000 My guest is Kelly Means.
00:00:04.000 Kelly is an advocate for changing the incentives of the healthcare system, and he's a graduate of Stanford and Harvard Business School.
00:00:11.000 Anyway, I'm really proud to have you on the show.
00:00:14.000 Put soldier in your fight, Robert, and it's great to be here.
00:00:17.000 So, Kelly, I could talk to you all day, but I would like to.
00:00:20.000 But what we find is that the shorter we keep these, the more people watch them.
00:00:24.000 And I really think it's important for people to hear what you're saying, as many Americans as possible.
00:00:29.000 So I want to keep this brief, but give us the short story, the cliff notes on Ozambic.
00:00:36.000 I think this is really important.
00:00:38.000 So the reason Ozempic is one of the most important issues in the country right now is not because of the morbidly obese diabetic person.
00:00:45.000 I'm not concerned with them.
00:00:47.000 Maybe their doctor should recommend Ozempic.
00:00:49.000 The problem with Ozempic is it's being targeted at the median American.
00:00:53.000 The median American is obese, right?
00:00:56.000 The average teen is overweight or obese.
00:00:59.000 And the reason Novo Nordics has become the most valuable company in Europe, surpassing Louis Vuitton, is entirely based on expectations of profits in the United States because they're expecting Medicare and Medicaid and taxpayer money to fund it.
00:01:12.000 This will be $15,000 per patient per year.
00:01:16.000 And as we know, once it's approved for Medicare and Medicaid, they can't regulate, although the IRS is trying to regulate how many doctors can write food prescriptions, they're not allowed to regulate how many doctors can write prescriptions that then get taxpayer money from a rigged system.
00:01:29.000 So it's going to be open season with the American Academy of Pediatrics saying that 50% of 12 year olds should get this immediately injected for life.
00:01:36.000 The problem here, aside from it being an absolutely disastrous drug that I think is going to be recalled and causing stomach paralysis, causing suicidal ideation, where 30% of people have such side effects they have to go off of it, even if they're getting insurance payments for Taking that aside, even though it was a perfect drug, the fundamental question we have to ask is, is $15,000 per obese American, should that money be going to a Band-Aid lifetime injection?
00:02:05.000 What else could we do with that money to fix the root cause?
00:02:08.000 The chronic disease treadmill hasn't worked.
00:02:11.000 The more stans we prescribe, the more heart disease goes up.
00:02:14.000 The more SSRIs we prescribe, the more suicide and depression goes up.
00:02:17.000 The more metforma we prescribe, the more diabetes goes up.
00:02:20.000 There literally, to my account, hasn't been a chronic disease treatment in American history that's lowered rates of the chronic disease it's trying to treat.
00:02:26.000 In JP Morgan's own estimates of Ozempic, they think as Ozempic prescriptions go up, obesity in America will go up, right?
00:02:33.000 This is all a game.
00:02:34.000 And this is the most consequential, biggest market, most expensive drug potentially in American history.
00:02:39.000 If there's not a time to say, let's stop, let's ask how diabetes, heart disease, depression, kidney disease, COVID, how are they connected?
00:02:50.000 They're connected by metabolic health.
00:02:51.000 What can we do with that $15,000?
00:02:54.000 We can incentivize metabolic habits.
00:02:57.000 Fix our food system.
00:02:59.000 But instead, the IRS is saying, go for Ozempic, not for food.
00:03:03.000 And all of the arms of our medical system, from the media to the researchers to the regulators, they're all paid by pharma, and they're all singing one tune, that obesity is an Ozempic deficiency, that as Harvard researchers who are paid off are saying it's genetic, it's not tied to food, it's not tied to exercise.
00:03:24.000 This is a consequential moment.
00:03:26.000 For our budget and for our human capital.
00:03:28.000 And if there's not a moment where we say enough, enough with the chronic disease treadmill, then I worry.
00:03:34.000 I think there's an optimistic message here, which these things are, we can change these things quickly.
00:03:39.000 We can change these things very quickly, but we've got to understand what's happening.
00:03:44.000 You have an army I know rising up and I am optimistic.
00:03:47.000 Yeah, and I can promise you that there will be an executive order from me within the first two weeks of my presidency that declares a state of emergency and changes all this, the entire paradigm of this pharmaceutical model.
00:04:02.000 So I want to thank you, and I'm going to be insulting you a lot during that period to figure out exactly what we need to do to dismantle the systems and to make Americans healthy again.
00:04:13.000 Thank you, sir.
00:04:14.000 Thank you for the leadership.
00:04:15.000 This is the most important issue in the world, and you've got a lot of people behind you.