Reddit Teacher's Rude Racial Awakening
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Summary
In this episode, the shameless spurg talks about racism in the classroom, and how to deal with racist students. She also talks about the recent case of a woman who was sexually assaulted by her own students, and why racism is a problem in the education system.
Transcript
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hey folks it's the shameless spurg hope you're all doing well saw something going around on
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telegram today just wanted to read it you know i talk a lot about race and there's so much to talk
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about but of course um one of the things that's become increasingly a problem has been you know
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issues in the classroom um and a lot of teachers are going through an absolute nightmare you know
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over it so let's hear from reddit slash advice from a user routine crew 8651 my students are
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making me have racist thoughts and i am really worried about what that means for me
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uh oh let me 26 female preface this by saying that my parents raised me in an environment where they
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promoted acceptance and inclusivity of all kinds hey me too growing up i was always pro-emigration
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had and still have friends who were people of color i even dedicated a large portion of my career
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to help first generation university students international students and students of
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underrepresented backgrounds from all over the world it's rewarding i myself was an international
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student and still struggled although i grew up more privileged than 99 of the international
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students i've known it has all backfired in the last three to four months and i'm worried about
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i began a new job some months ago lecturing at a university preparation program in europe the students
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are essentially students from countries where they did not get an equivalent high school diploma and
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have to do this preparation program to qualify for bachelor programs they are mainly from india
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bangladesh pakistan nepal egypt algeria and nigeria 90 of them are guys and the ages are usually between
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17 and 22 so most of them are legal adults since i began there have been so many behavioral issues
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i'll bet i've worked previously as a substitute teacher in a european troubled middle school
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a teacher's assistant in the u.s for quite a few years and as a lecturer in some private universities
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and professional development programs around germany and the netherlands this includes a similar
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prep program that i taught in for one intake which lasted around 10 months it has never ever been this
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bad not even half as bad i have not been able to finish a single sentence of lecture since i began
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believe it believe it i get talked over by a lot of the students they will not shut up i've tried
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raising my voice yelling silently staring at them sitting down and not doing anything removing them
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from the class telling them that i won't teach until they are quiet nothing literally nothing works
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okay sorry it's just you know that's just that's 37 years of experience and fatigue that's that's
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laughing right now some of the students have also called me names commenting on my dressing body weight
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tattoos hair you name it they've also called me broke for my job which is far from true but still
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completely unacceptable they cheat on their attendance and lie about everything when i've confronted them
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in the past i was physically intimidated by them and pushed into a corner and screamed at i have
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seen countless clips just like that countless you know this story is not particularly an outstanding
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story it's increasingly very common see the uh the university intervened sort of they scolded me as
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well and offered training workshops to learn about cultural differences you hear that guys cultural
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differences the cultural differences apparently being that in their culture it's appropriate to put
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their hands on a woman if that i want no part of it sure you want a part of it you were always down
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for it you voted for it you probably called people evil who didn't want it i know you're a type the
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cultural differences apparently being that in their culture did you not look into it ahead of time
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you know or when people like me would try to warn you you would just call us phobic or whatever
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you weren't listening and then you're gonna act surprised when this shit happens you're gonna act
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surprised that's incredible to me and it's just so exhausting you know i mean i'm glad she's sort of
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kind of snapping out of it but only just barely and of course you know in many cultures it's
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appropriate to do a whole lot more than put their hands on a woman you know what i mean and you know
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we've tried to point this out like look how women are treated over there you're xenophobic so she
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continues um they're messy they drop trash on the floor and ask me to pick it up like i'm their servant
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yeah some of them have terrible hygiene as if they're five-year-olds you bet they think everything
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is up for grabs give me that give me that they sure do and have stolen my personal property before
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but the university asked me not to tell anyone and replaced my belongings because they were worried
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about their reputation that is how much the establishment copes for you people for you non-whites
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it's how much the establishment copes and covers for you they absolutely do not want you to face any
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reputation damage for your behavior and that's just one of infinite examples and that's pretty
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a minor example rather of this issue it's unreal you know i have never seen more excuses given
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more passes given i have never seen more shit covered up for people than for for you folks for
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you people of color and you immigrants and all that stuff the level of coping that they do to try to
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cover it all up for your benefit it's just astounding and you're still so smug and you still have
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the nerve to call us oppressors you call us privilege and all this other shit and just look
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at that so she continues being treated like this hurts i am not respected that's for sure i am not
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taken seriously people tell me every day i'm a bad teacher and in my previous jobs i've had great
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teaching reviews just not with this one i don't know i know you might not know but i do the treatment
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is so poor i'm starting to have really really nasty thoughts about these people maybe you're having
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accurate thoughts about these people you know maybe for once you're listening to your instincts
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and realizing that instincts are not evil and these thoughts are normal maybe it's a part of your
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biological evolutionary instinctive immunity you know it's like an immune reaction to all this nonsense
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it's it's your it's your body your mind telling you you need to get the hell away from them and you
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do need to get the hell away from them nothing nothing about this is natural i'm thinking that this
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was gonna work was the unnatural thing so she's having these really nasty thoughts about these
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people oh no i'm hesitant to sit next to people like these in public transportation good and generally
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avoid them because i worry that they will yell at me good avoid them yes touch me or just be mean
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yeah they'll do that i've looked at my student groups for the next semester and catch myself hoping
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for european or east asian students instead gee i wonder why you know it's almost like what we have
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to say about them is actually how it plays out in reality it's almost like the statistical data that
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we have actually bears out in reality you can see it in action and your instincts will tell you
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through observation and experience that it's right that these horrible racist conclusions of ours are
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completely accurate so yeah of course she's hoping for european or east asian students wouldn't you
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yeah you would yeah you would don't don't even virtue signal like you wouldn't and if you do
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virtue signal it's because you haven't had to deal with them like so many of you people i swear to god
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there are so many of you people that are the loudest supporters of diversity and you're the
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loudest people to shame people like me and you've lived in your upper middle class or beyond
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existence where in your neighborhoods maybe you had a couple of like well to do well to do ones you
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know some of the some of the good ones the acceptable ones you know and that's been that's
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been the extent of your experience with uh immigrants and you know people of color and all that stuff
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is the cream of the crop the pick of the litter the the exceptions the ones for whom the other 90
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make look bad yeah those are the ones you have experience with meanwhile a lot of us have
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experience with the other ones most of them are not like that you know most of them are not well
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to do most of them are not well educated well mannered most of them did not have you know it's just
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and i still have to hear it from people let's see she continues i have caught myself thinking that
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an uber driver of a certain demographic is bad at their job and behaves in a nasty way just because
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he is of this background you are thinking correctly that is a correct thought congratulations not just
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because he maybe had a crappy day he maybe had a crappy day because he's crappy genetics i don't know
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he maybe had a crappy day because he's crappy you know maybe he just sucks i am starting to also
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lack sympathy for international students good which was what i wanted to dedicate my career for
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what a waste don't dedicate your career for that i catch myself hoping for a load of these two
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students to be deported oh my god at the very least and i'm hoping for the same this is not me
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let it become you okay you're gonna you'll do a lot better in life it'll be a lot safer you'll
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make better more informed decisions you won't keep navigating this life still believing still drinking
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the kool-aid of egalitarianism inequality like we're all the same when we're clearly not yeah whatever
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these thoughts are it's not me it's me it's definitely me it didn't used to be but it's
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definitely me and i suggest that she get she get on board and realize that it's best to just accept
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what her instincts are telling you and what her experience is telling you i have no idea what to do
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get away from them as they say never relax you know what i mean get away from them is what you do
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so she has no idea what to do and she needs help before these attitudes bleed into her professional
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life please tell me what to do get away from them get away rethink your professional life
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reimagine how you could use your education and your skills in some way what else are you going to do if
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you're going to keep if you're going to keep doing the same thing you're going to keep dealing with the
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same people it's only going to get worse then you're going to end up like me you know um on youtube
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trying to navigate how to not get banned when you want to just lay it all out there just incredible
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like i said a lot of teachers are dealing with this stuff you know whether we're talking like
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over in the uk with all of their immigrants or in france or we're talking germany or sweden or we're
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talking every every inner city in america increasingly also even into the suburbs now it's not even just
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the ghetto areas you know i i just see a constant influx of of stuff going on with teachers with white
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teachers and now they're getting to the point where you know instead of trying to mitigate a
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situation in their classroom instead of trying to break up a fight you know they're just kind of
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walking off and just leaving and i can't blame them and it's for the best and you know and i'm seeing
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plenty of situations where a teacher is just straight up getting sucker punched and i'm like my
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god and these these classrooms are a circus they're a circus i mean they're they're worse than a circus
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because at least some circus circus involves some sort of like forethought training or whatever these
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people are just pack animals and they just they just act ridiculous the sheer chaos that they unleash
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in these classrooms it's unreal this is not me whatever these thoughts are it's not me it's not
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you it's them and that's why you're having the thoughts it's them you didn't do anything you didn't
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do anything wrong you're just trying to teach and they're not teachable that's the point they're not
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teachable we keep trying to like apply standards to them which we have historically applied to you
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know various european peoples um white americans things like that we cannot keep trying to make
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them fit into a mold they don't fit into it's actually unfair to both of us like it's unfair to
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set up a standard for them for which they're not naturally suited and it's unfair for us to be
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subjected to trying to have to do this or to even downgrade ourselves to try to help elevate them
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it's not good none of this is good we just need to go our separate way and you just know for a
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fact that if she were just dealing with europeans in the classroom none of this would be happening
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europeans and east asians she wants she finds herself wishing for that precisely because she
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knows as do all of you that it would be better off they're smarter europeans and east asians are
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smarter they are quieter they are more well behaved they are orderly they are just a cakewalk to
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deal with compared to literally everyone else just wanted to share that story with you i hope you all