SHNEAKO - February 07, 2026


Aba DEBATES SNEAKO on Friendship w⧸ Nick Fuentes, Israel, Epstein and Religion


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1 hour and 21 minutes

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15,844

Sentence Count

328

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

79


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00:00:00.000 these people if they had their political will enacted and they are growing in influence
00:00:04.640 would harm muslims that are just like you like you're not going to get more freedoms from muslims
00:00:10.200 you're not going to get more respect or ethical behavior towards haitians if these people get
00:00:16.220 their political worldview enacted and so i just have a hard time understanding how you could
00:00:20.940 advocate for these people and really feel like you're defending them and at the same time help
00:00:24.600 promote people whose world political view harms your focus they promote mine as well i mean look
00:00:29.320 So your disagreement is collaborating with people that we disagree with right now?
00:00:32.840 We're doing a stream together.
00:00:34.420 It's like we disagree.
00:00:35.260 What are we promoting each other even though you're pro-pride parade and I'm not?
00:00:39.340 So let's see.
00:00:40.320 This is during a debate.
00:00:41.400 Four-year-old debate.
00:00:41.960 You were there.
00:00:44.020 Well, I mean, he's present.
00:00:45.080 He's already been doing politics for years.
00:00:47.120 You know, he speaks on it.
00:00:48.320 And a lot of his goals are still stated in regards to the white majority stuff.
00:00:51.160 So take a listen.
00:00:52.620 Hey, Aiden.
00:00:53.020 He's talking about the fact that he wants, like, a white core.
00:00:55.680 i i find it interesting that there's a specific idea about a white core nick would you not concede
00:01:01.320 the fact that both white and black americans that were imported here oh wait let me make sure
00:01:06.740 everyone else can see so i'm just going to switch over and then i will move out like that through
00:01:12.300 slave trade are the genesis of this country it should have just as much hold but i feel i'm
00:01:17.800 pretty confident that if black americans had a majority core you would not be okay with it
00:01:22.620 correct? Well, because America's not
00:01:24.580 historically a majority black nation.
00:01:27.360 But if they became one,
00:01:28.900 they have just as much claim to the
00:01:30.500 country as the white folks. Do they not?
00:01:32.820 Well, I think as
00:01:34.140 the people that are in America,
00:01:36.700 yeah, sure. Okay, so let's say tomorrow
00:01:38.580 they started overpopulating like crazy
00:01:40.480 and then they became a majority. Would you be fine with it?
00:01:42.720 He's out of here. Probably not,
00:01:44.520 no. He's out of here.
00:01:46.740 Why are you cool with that, though, Snickers?
00:01:48.320 I understand, like,
00:01:49.800 bro, niggas a lost cause. It is what it is.
00:01:52.620 i think it's actually sad bro i think there's another quote just a little bit earlier in this
00:01:57.060 debate i'm gonna probably pop it in afterwards uh but i the reason why i brought up that example
00:02:02.460 uh and the reason why that kind of stood out to me is like sometimes i'll hear nick and then he
00:02:07.060 sounds like you know i just want reasonable grounds for us to be keeping the white majority
00:02:12.420 keeping things good but you know these are americans these are our brothers okay and the
00:02:17.040 reason why i brought the black americans is like obviously through the slave trade they were brought
00:02:19.600 here they invested a lot of themselves over dozens of generations and i had the question in my head
00:02:24.600 like if they have a claim to the country as well and that they've put their blood soil you know
00:02:29.880 into the country and invested themselves then i think through a meritocracy or different amounts
00:02:36.120 of choices if they end up populating more is that something that you would be fine with and he says
00:02:39.960 no and to me it's very clear that one he wants you know a racial hierarchy in terms of just the
00:02:45.980 numbers but also that anyone who's not white um there's going to be an upper cap or a limit even
00:02:53.660 if they have just as much stake in the country in terms of their generational input into it and so
00:02:59.660 when i hear him talk like this and then i hear a lot of his other views in regards to things
00:03:05.020 um i think it's very clear how he wants to set up that hierarchy for his people and i feel like you
00:03:11.080 don't necessarily disagree that you shared the fact that he should have a white majority do you
00:03:15.500 also share the idea that black folks there should be a cap for african americans in regards to how
00:03:21.500 high they can necessarily climb as a group or population size no i i don't believe in population
00:03:26.520 control i'm not saying that i definitely don't believe that black people should be capped at
00:03:29.940 how many kids they have but the same goes for japan is limiting the amount of immigration they
00:03:34.180 want to maintain majority japanese people in the country russia can say that but so many times when
00:03:39.220 americans say that that's seen as racist yeah i think overall if you look at history you look at
00:03:44.140 successful nations nations that maintain their core and maintain a structure where there's a
00:03:50.320 specific majority and specific ideologies in a specific government that's how you maintain if
00:03:55.360 that all change if that's going to change rapidly as so rapidly it has in the past 20 years where
00:03:59.580 the demographics have dropped whites used to be 80 of the population now they're 60 things are
00:04:05.500 going to change in this country really quickly and everything points to the fact that that's it's not
00:04:09.160 going to be successful so i understand wanting to have whites as the majority population
00:04:14.520 in america well i don't think that necessarily relates to what i said and i don't think japan
00:04:20.980 example even makes sense uh japan is not a multicultural project and japan also has a
00:04:26.300 tremendous amount of issues in regards to birthing their own people themselves i mean they're on an
00:04:30.200 island with just each other and they don't want to be fucking and having kids so you know they're
00:04:34.080 a population that's dying out and they may have issues that they're going to deal with long term
00:04:37.620 the idea that multiculturalism doesn't work because you point to japan sorry japan korea
00:04:42.300 they also have a big crisis coming up with social security and old people not having enough kids and
00:04:47.100 no one's stopping them from fucking okay we look to america america flourished under multiculturalism
00:04:53.520 sure it had a white majority but its biggest boom came in from bringing people from foreign countries
00:04:58.020 and then taking the best from all over the world for all different forms of jobs i've stated my
00:05:03.480 my view on immigration many times i am pro-legal immigration i want to bring in immigrants who
00:05:07.960 want to benefit this country but i'm not a fan of mass immigration mass imports from different
00:05:13.960 demographics all over the world people who are getting h1b visas that stuff does not benefit
00:05:19.120 and it just seemed that they use this country to extract resources for themselves without showing
00:05:24.380 allegiance to this country that's not good for america i just sent you a clip too if you want to
00:05:29.100 Maybe you could bring this up.
00:05:30.200 This clarifies Nick's stance on race and the idea of America first.
00:05:40.300 You sent it to me via Discord?
00:05:41.840 Yes.
00:05:44.920 All right.
00:05:45.560 I'll pop it up.
00:05:55.920 Here it is.
00:05:59.100 i'll uh i'll pop it up on the same screen so we can all see it
00:06:12.860 and this is a more recent clip the other one you showed is from four years ago this is from
00:06:17.020 october 30th 2025. get some backbone oh hold up let me just make sure everything's good on the
00:06:23.100 stream i'll do that i'll do it all right here we go get the courage of your convictions if you're
00:06:30.460 out there and by the way i don't care what color you are i know maybe that's going to be controversial
00:06:35.960 on my side but seriously if you have citizenship you were born in this country this is your birth
00:06:44.520 right. This is our lives. This is our rights. This is our heritage. It's our tax dollars. It's
00:06:53.440 our government. It's our military. This is our country. This is our empire. I'll unite with
00:07:00.940 anybody who proclaims America first above all other countries, including and especially Israel.
00:07:08.620 I agree 100%.
00:07:11.620 And they're on the other side of this one, and they're wrong.
00:07:21.140 They need to be put back in their place.
00:07:25.800 Anybody who says that America should come second needs to be reminded your place is number two.
00:07:32.280 America's number one.
00:07:33.920 Anything else, it's not even number two.
00:07:36.960 It's number 100.
00:07:38.620 It's America first, second, third, fourth, fifth.
00:07:42.140 That's what we're about.
00:07:44.000 There you go.
00:07:45.840 Anyway.
00:07:47.640 Okay.
00:07:48.920 So what do you think that clip says?
00:07:51.400 Saying that people here, there's a lot of different demographics,
00:07:55.040 and we should prioritize our country when it comes to nationalism.
00:07:58.580 If you were from here, you're born here, you have American citizenship,
00:08:01.400 you got to put America first above all countries.
00:08:03.840 And the number one issue is people showing due allegiance to Israel.
00:08:06.740 And so he'll align with people who agree with that.
00:08:08.520 I agree you said like should we put caps on black people like no that obviously I don't agree with
00:08:13.140 that if it naturally happens that a different race takes up the majority then there's no reason that
00:08:19.400 there should be any sort of legal government infiltration to stop that right but I'm against
00:08:25.380 mass immigration from different countries and overall like I don't agree with a white power
00:08:30.600 structure but for a country to succeed it does need to maintain its original core and if this
00:08:35.860 country started as a predominantly white country yeah i um i think that
00:08:44.500 because a lot of these movements are going mainstream they're finding great ways to
00:08:47.700 obfuscate their true views in order to be able to be politically expedient and i feel like i
00:08:51.940 feel that when i see nick and i think i see that even with the current admin when i see rhetoric
00:08:57.860 of stuff like deporting american citizens because they committed a crime
00:09:01.220 time um and then oftentimes the way they talk about this is very specifically geared towards
00:09:07.020 those of minority communities it's very clear to me then or it starts to become clear to me what
00:09:11.320 i'm listening to when i hear things about how they want to close off immigration except from
00:09:15.760 like white specific countries it's very clear to me what the project and the identity is
00:09:20.420 and i don't know sneeko if you are looking at them for what they're actually trying to do and
00:09:27.120 then just buying the the rhetoric i think me personally the way i've seen things evolve and
00:09:32.580 how it don't even matter if you're a citizen anymore if you just got the wrong access my
00:09:36.800 focus might be on that ass so to me i think it's almost too much of a good faith interpretation
00:09:42.260 considering the past rhetoric and some of the actions that we're seeing and how they're being
00:09:45.880 supported the idea that you're going to stop immigration but then you're only going to accept
00:09:49.420 it for white south africans or whatever i mean that's not what next time i'm not i'm not talking
00:09:53.960 about him specifically i'm not just just macroing out a little bit okay but i'm talking about how
00:09:58.140 things are actually manifesting in terms of political behavior do you understand what i'm
00:10:02.540 saying okay well i'm not sure what okay so who said that when has that ever been who made that
00:10:07.460 point that immigration only from white countries i mean that's a that's a thing that's happening
00:10:12.700 right now in terms of refugee status and who's allowed to even claim asylum the only ones that
00:10:16.240 they're accepting for a group yeah that's the only ones they were accepting there's the ones
00:10:19.980 from south africa the white ones specifically okay yeah i disagree it should be immigrants who
00:10:23.760 want to benefit this country should be good immigrants i disagree with that
00:10:27.000 okay i i can see that you disagree i'm just trying to tell you how they're actually manifesting i see
00:10:33.480 what you're saying there's the rhetoric and there's what they're actually trying to get to
00:10:38.260 as an end point that's what i'm trying to say okay i see what you're essentially saying is
00:10:42.000 that you think that i'm being as a useful tool to push white supremacy right
00:10:45.140 I think that
00:10:48.240 let me just
00:10:51.180 give me a second
00:10:52.340 I think
00:11:02.160 partially that statement
00:11:04.900 I think even larger than that
00:11:06.600 I think that
00:11:08.220 and I can say this here for myself
00:11:11.100 so if I can look at myself right
00:11:12.280 you and i have both made content in regards to wokeness in regards to sometimes black folks
00:11:19.880 will have like this like victim narrative some of them they'll use the fact that they're black
00:11:24.200 to just try to escape accountability when they hit somebody when they did something like these
00:11:27.600 are all stories that you and i have covered okay and i don't know if you've had this but i cover
00:11:32.880 it earnest i just don't like people being a scumbag and then trying to use like because
00:11:36.860 black plight to me is a real thing the idea that you would use that to try to get out of something
00:11:41.580 pisses me off but on the same token i also talk about the fact that sometimes folks get targeted
00:11:46.180 on the basis of their race and that's also a real thing but when i cover certain stories
00:11:50.740 or i do it a certain type of way sometimes i'll attract an audience that's not there
00:11:55.200 for the same reason i am do you get what i'm saying okay
00:11:57.700 and so i'm not even intending or i'm not even pushing some kind of narrative i'm just trying
00:12:06.760 to say this is wrong and some of the people who are now cheering me on i'm realizing i'm
00:12:11.260 them. And I think in your case, I feel like that's been the case a lot of times. I believe you really
00:12:15.240 believe these things. I think you say them. I think you think it in good faith and you follow it. But
00:12:19.180 I don't think, yeah, that some of the people that are involved or following are doing so with the
00:12:23.340 intention that they actually like you. I think they think you're useful. Yeah. Okay. But that's
00:12:27.820 not what I believe in. If there's an overlapping audience, I'm not responsible for all of their
00:12:31.300 beliefs. People can disagree and watch my content for many different reasons. But pointing blame at
00:12:36.440 the content creator while misrepresenting what they actually stand for is disingenuine.
00:12:41.260 uh repeat that last sentence i understand saying your audience is racist therefore
00:12:47.660 it's your fault that they're racist is not a fair criticism
00:12:51.740 why because i'm not responsible for the beliefs of everybody that watches my content
00:12:59.420 right but you do have control over how you curate things and the kind of people you attract no
00:13:06.500 right and overall the most important issue the most pressing issue that we need to
00:13:10.760 immediately address in this country i mean you're canadian you're not even american is how much
00:13:15.140 israel is purging our country so his political movement is by and large the one that's threatening
00:13:19.820 that power structure the most so if we can align with that if we can ally on that i see that as the
00:13:25.360 the best use of my whatever political influence i have so you think it's more important to align
00:13:36.140 yourself with potentially anybody and then fight against this issue that's what you're saying that's
00:13:42.000 the most important issue in america right now is getting rid of apac that's not listed as a foreign
00:13:48.080 agent and the israeli influence that's all over america epsyn files have determined just how much
00:13:53.760 it goes and so this is the most important issue although i have disagreements and i disagree with
00:13:58.460 nick on many things like venezuela we publicly talk about our disagreements he a lot of his
00:14:02.900 supporters disagree with me about the Haitian cat situation what's most important is that power
00:14:07.440 structure and challenging that so yeah it's fine if some people are going to watch my stream and
00:14:12.360 disagree it is what it is yeah I would disagree that that's the most important thing and I would
00:14:19.300 disagree that how you do it doesn't like you know if I align with some myself with some people whose
00:14:25.560 political worldview being actualized would harm my people I just wouldn't do it because while I may
00:14:31.620 be defeating a problem there i may be kicking a huger problem for me and my family or my people
00:14:36.400 down the road like in aligning yourself with some of these folks you are also partially
00:14:42.180 legitimizing the very people who will attack haitians for the cats and dogs you are like
00:14:46.560 like i mean nick fuentes has got enough clips where they said what about the haitians and you
00:14:50.980 trying to defend them and i know some of it was joking he came to new york he came to new york we
00:14:55.420 did a vlog it was still a ban on youtube at the time he came out to me and he said that he respects
00:15:00.280 me for defending Haitians in that situation because I was right about that and it was a lot
00:15:06.340 of it was joking around about the Haitians and the cat thing because most of them are white and I'm
00:15:09.720 not but he actually he gave me credit for being right about that yeah look I'm not here to say
00:15:16.540 that Nick has no irredeemable qualities or he doesn't treat you in a way that's not the point
00:15:20.820 I'm making I'm saying that if this person okay Nico I watched you debate Myron on Muslims praying
00:15:27.520 in the square right and myron in that debate had the standard was that he's in the chat right now
00:15:33.280 yeah let me listen you always be tuning in but um myron had the cookie cutter stance of like
00:15:40.760 you know the hyper conservative like we don't want any religions of the catholicism around here
00:15:45.440 the muslims are a problem when they're doing this in this public space we don't want that if it's
00:15:49.780 not you know i was listening to that and then you gave the kind of freedom of religion concept in
00:15:54.600 place. But in my head, I thought to myself, okay, you really seem to care about this. You want
00:15:59.100 there to be a space for Muslims to feel like they're part of the country, all this stuff. I'm
00:16:03.320 like, cool. And then at the same time, I see some of the people that you're surrounded with, folks
00:16:07.420 you're promoting by, you know, spending a lot of time collaborating. I'm like, these people, if
00:16:12.260 they had their political will enacted and they are growing in influence, would harm Muslims that are
00:16:17.720 just like you. Like, you're not going to get more freedoms from Muslims. You're not going to get
00:16:22.140 more respect or ethical behavior towards Haitians if these people get their political worldview
00:16:28.440 enacted. And so I just have a hard time understanding how you could advocate for
00:16:32.760 these people and really feel like you're defending them. And at the same time, help promote people
00:16:36.400 whose world political view harms your folks. They promote mine as well. I mean, look, so your
00:16:41.300 disagreement is collaborating with people that we disagree with right now. We're doing a stream
00:16:45.200 together. It's like we disagree. What are we promoting each other, even though you're pro
00:16:48.760 pride parade and i'm not no my point is not that you disagree with somebody my point is that
00:16:55.700 oftentimes even when you're doing streams with these people you guys are not actively having
00:16:59.480 debates where you guys are trying to disagree on the points that are important a lot of it is just
00:17:02.480 you guys enjoying each other's company and really helping to promote each other's events and
00:17:05.660 different things like that so you have to understand you're not just here with someone
00:17:09.980 you disagree with you're here with somebody that you disagree with but you're also normalizing to
00:17:14.760 your audience and you're and you're also helping to promote to more people so there is a nefarious
00:17:19.860 aspect to it in which they grow and they get stronger and by their political strength end up
00:17:24.820 hurting your people okay what is next i don't even think what i'm saying is that crazy because like
00:17:29.260 even earlier i think you said that if malcolm x was alive today the person you admire he would
00:17:33.240 look at you some type of way for the people you are with yeah i reiterate one i don't know what
00:17:39.220 you're talking about with nick saying that muslims should be persecuted and two the one who is
00:17:43.680 providing the most amount of persecution towards muslims is netanyahu in israel who i don't know if
00:17:48.700 we both agree controls america they're in charge and they have been ones pushing the propaganda
00:17:53.040 publicly saying they're giving influencers 7k to push this right whenever they try to cover up for
00:17:57.820 the genocide in palestine they ramp up the hatred towards muslims this is why the praying in times
00:18:02.880 square gets amplified so much to make people hate and to distract it's a distraction technique so
00:18:08.060 if these people have done the most to make life for muslims difficult then if i align with
00:18:13.780 christians who also agree that this power structure needs to be removed that is the best use of my
00:18:18.980 voice okay but aligning yourself with christians on this issue is not something that i'm advocating
00:18:32.260 against or have an issue with or i'm even highlighting i'm highlighting the fact that
00:18:35.680 working with people and helping to make them more popular and more normalized and that their
00:18:41.720 worldview hurts your focus that's what i'm talking about i'm not talking about you aligning with
00:18:44.760 christians about the jewish stuff that's perfectly fine you could you could say the same thing about
00:18:48.520 nick fuentes like they have the same criticism towards him they say a lot of them say i'm a
00:18:52.400 brown clown steagle's a radical islamist you're amplifying him nick is far more popular than me
00:18:56.760 currently and we still collaborate all the time he but this is what the content is you could talk
00:19:02.260 to people that you disagree with i'm friends with people that i disagree with i don't stand for
00:19:06.860 everything they stand for but we can have an overlapping agreement and we can speak about that
00:19:11.280 and i've debated about venezuela i've debated him about many things i disagree with but i don't so
00:19:16.800 what you're saying is i shouldn't amplify people who i disagree i mean then okay we have a different
00:19:21.800 content method no no no no that's not what i'm saying i'm saying if you were becoming incredibly
00:19:28.620 popular and advocating for Muslim positions, and we were seeing a surge of Islamic or Muslim
00:19:35.220 related positions and their advocacy groups and their power structure growing, I think that Nick
00:19:41.000 would face an immense amount of pressure from people in his sphere for ever associating with
00:19:46.740 him. And I think it would be a political issue. You know how many people tell him that they should,
00:19:50.140 I see this all everywhere from his associates, from his fans, they say that he should cut
00:19:54.300 sneaker off because he's a brown muslim all the time and that that i'm getting amplified and that
00:19:58.680 it's legitimizing what i believe in that's what that's that's a very that's a very common yeah
00:20:05.500 yeah and i would say this if if he made the decision for the betterment of his people
00:20:14.800 to decide to cut you off then that would make sense to me because it feels like it's congruent
00:20:19.000 i don't see a growing muslim power structure so there's no threat so i think for him to actually
00:20:23.840 remain friends with you doesn't actually threaten anything that he's doing but on the other hand
00:20:28.780 it's completely different if the gripers or if the people who really align with the extreme parts of
00:20:35.020 maga get to expand their powers absolutely you're going to see things happen to muslims in this
00:20:39.700 country like what and actually in fact well you already saw it even with israel palestine who has
00:20:44.880 legitimized israel more than this trump administration right they go out of their way
00:20:49.160 the america first movement they didn't vote for trump he's criticized trump so much like
00:20:53.460 heavily heavily criticized the war in iran and the fact that he hasn't deported enough people
00:21:00.580 he's been criticizing trump the entire second term
00:21:04.200 yes i think you're at least with nick and that word i was trying to explain to you that if you
00:21:10.080 align yourself with let's say the mega folks for now you can see how i know i i i tell
00:21:15.220 if you align yourself with the mega folks which you don't but let's say you did and you were
00:21:21.320 constantly promoting them and you're doing labs with them get pop they get popular they get to
00:21:24.740 power what ends up happening when you're seeing the effects on muslims either in foreign countries
00:21:28.680 you're seeing the benefits to certain groups right you are part of that thing that ends up hurting
00:21:33.340 the folks that you claim to care about in that same token if his political movement gets to grow
00:21:39.180 okay it'll be at the expense it'll be into the benefit of white folks but it'll be at the expense
00:21:44.500 of black it'll be at the expense of the haitians it'll be at the expense of the muslims they won't
00:21:48.800 allow you the religious freedoms they will allow you the religious freedoms that you're asking do
00:21:52.100 you think the groypers are gonna allow for you yeah do you think the groypers are gonna allow
00:21:56.760 for you to do your muslim prayer time square okay at no point did he ever say that there shouldn't
00:22:01.860 be muslims that exist in america in fact i think it benefits having a christian in charge that
00:22:06.840 doesn't have allegiance to israel because america does have religious freedom and core american
00:22:12.240 values allows for people to practice things freely so if we follow american doctrine this
00:22:17.200 makes it a safer place for muslims than it does for the current power structure that's run by
00:22:20.900 israelis also i'm not a fan of division right i want unity i want what malcolm x wanted i want
00:22:27.060 christians and muslims to be able to coexist i want jews i want everybody to be able to coexist
00:22:31.940 properly i think by not interacting with these people because i think that they have a disagreement
00:22:36.500 with me i think that stirs up more division instead of creating unity if i want unity then
00:22:40.920 i should be able to communicate with people i disagree with because muslims are only three
00:22:44.240 percent of the population and so many people have disagreements but by having conversations
00:22:49.420 and interacting this is normalizing the unity that i want in the future i'm gonna ask a question do
00:22:56.200 you think that if the gropers managed to get the power that they would be fine with muslim prayers
00:23:01.180 in the town square do you believe that yes okay do you believe that if muslims you know through
00:23:10.900 their own choices to decide you know they were having kids because you know muslims generally
00:23:14.180 have more kids than the other folks and generation after generation more muslims were having kids
00:23:19.460 do you think that they would stop that from happening no why would you think that when
00:23:26.800 i gave the example of black americans who have even more claim to this country
00:23:31.520 outpacing the white folks he had an issue with that and that's not something you would accept
00:23:37.140 Why do you think they would accept it from Muslims?
00:23:39.000 Well, I said earlier, I answered that, that there shouldn't be force, control.
00:23:43.780 There shouldn't be anybody stopping from black people from reproducing.
00:23:46.560 It's all about immigration.
00:23:47.760 I understand what you think.
00:23:48.740 That's not my question.
00:23:49.340 I'm not asking what you think.
00:23:50.540 I'm asking you what they think, the people that you're helping to promote.
00:23:54.100 No, I do not think Groypers and Nick Fuentes would force black people to stop having children.
00:24:01.420 I think that they would lower amount of immigration coming up, but I don't think, no.
00:24:06.640 so they would just allow themselves to be erased by the reproducing black folks that's what you're
00:24:09.840 saying you think they would just accept it i think that they would encourage white people
00:24:13.440 to have more children and try to compete in that realm and maybe things like pride parades would
00:24:18.640 stop being celebrated and then more normal relationships where children are being produced
00:24:23.120 would be encouraged and there would be more of a push to have a actual nuclear family
00:24:29.280 okay okay i think i think this is an incredibly good faith interpretation i think it's very
00:24:37.520 charitable i don't think the rhetoric i've seen um from the right and from what i've seen from
00:24:42.940 groupers really reflects that for me personally um but i think i i get where you're coming from
00:24:48.260 i think that's probably something we disagree on but i don't think you know i think i can i don't
00:24:52.320 think i have anything else i can actually do you want to say anything on this topic
00:24:54.600 so that might be misunderstood what do you think is the number one important issue well you're
00:25:00.040 canadian but what's the number one most important issue to address right now in america
00:25:03.840 oh listen as a canadian like here's the thing right the main thing about america is like
00:25:13.700 america is very interventionist and that involves itself in a lot of countries it creates a lot of
00:25:18.640 these like very important trade goals and then it tethers itself to a lot of the infrastructure and
00:25:23.340 And now, right now, it's pulling on that integration to apply pressure and change people's lives.
00:25:28.100 So I can tell you here in Canada, our lives have been incredibly impacted by the new administration in regards to the economy, in regards to job opportunities and how we've had to change a lot of things.
00:25:37.200 So as much as I don't want to necessarily have to care about American politics, unfortunately, we're just so tied together as neighbors and as economies that we don't have much choice.
00:25:46.340 So when you ask me, like, are the Jews my main concern?
00:25:49.860 Like, no. Is Israel my main concern? No.
00:25:51.620 Do I think what's happening is around Palestine?
00:25:54.280 Because I know you talked about the influence of APEX.
00:25:58.680 I'm just trying to get to the point I'm good at.
00:26:01.100 That, to me, is not my top concern.
00:26:02.840 For me, my top concern right now in the world is twofold.
00:26:07.140 When it's the affordability crisis, I think that's just growing by the day.
00:26:12.180 I think as job opportunities are disappearing, people are getting more and more lost and worried about their future.
00:26:16.900 So that's my number one priority and my number one issue.
00:26:20.160 And then, yeah, I think that's number one.
00:26:23.440 So why is there an affordability crisis in America?
00:26:30.840 I think it is a bit of a crossroads.
00:26:38.040 I think with AI and a lot of that stuff, I think it's impacting the job market and the prospects.
00:26:43.640 I also think economically speaking, you know, this own administration has done a lot of harm to its own economy.
00:26:49.580 I think, personally, this is not a topic I really go in-depthly on because I'm just somebody who tends to view more than I do speak on it.
00:26:57.180 But I couldn't tell you the reasons why.
00:26:58.740 Why do you think?
00:26:59.440 I feel like you might know more than me.
00:27:00.600 So you said that the reason that there's an affordability crisis is AI and the economy?
00:27:08.520 Well, I think the way that they've hampered their own industries, I think some of the investment choices that have been made.
00:27:14.660 Investments, okay.
00:27:17.280 Yeah.
00:27:17.600 So I think, for example, the tariffs are a great example of things that have only hurt the world economy in general and America itself.
00:27:24.920 I think you're seeing a loss of jobs.
00:27:26.860 I think jobs now are completely down than they were almost a year ago, and they're still going down.
00:27:31.100 So obviously the job market is just fucking in the toilet network.
00:27:35.300 There's a lot of uncertainty.
00:27:37.340 It's so multifaceted in regards to the housing market.
00:27:41.940 There's so many different things, but I personally just don't feel like the best authority on it.
00:27:45.220 So I'm just asking what you think is the number one important issue.
00:27:47.880 I mean, because you asked extensively.
00:27:50.300 That's the number one important issue.
00:27:52.040 Okay.
00:27:52.620 And so the reason you listed were AI and investments, right?
00:27:56.340 Like the spending budget, where our money's going.
00:28:03.660 Should I repeat that?
00:28:04.740 Okay.
00:28:05.000 So you said AI and investments.
00:28:06.380 And by investments, do you mean where our tax dollars are going and where
00:28:10.200 American, the American budget's going, correct?
00:28:13.200 investing into like the military industrial complex by the way that's the the number one
00:28:17.940 spending uh this is number one um that's where most of the money's going if you're asking me
00:28:25.100 the causes i have enough humility to this if you're asking me the causes i can't tell you why
00:28:29.080 i can speculate but like it's just a very it's not something i'm well read enough to even point
00:28:33.580 to sources okay so if i can tell you the one thing i said i could tell you the reasons why
00:28:37.640 i can tell you what i think is the number one issue and that's affordable ability that's the
00:28:40.880 real answer for you okay but i mean then then i don't think it's fair for you to be like overly
00:28:45.120 so critical about who i'm aligning with and what the repercussions are what the future is going to
00:28:49.460 happen if you have your very strong opinions about my platform and what i'm going to do
00:28:53.700 while also admitting that you don't know what the main issue is
00:28:57.240 what i don't know what the main issue is you said that the main issue is affordability and you don't
00:29:05.060 know why it happens and you haven't looked into it so if you don't know that then then i don't
00:29:09.600 think it's fair to also have so many criticisms about what I believe in and my political goals
00:29:16.000 or my aspirations for this country how could you have strong opinions about me and my platform but
00:29:20.800 not strong it's easy about the country super super easy I don't critique you about your points about
00:29:26.560 affordability I think there's also the rise in fascism and right-wing groups that are incredibly
00:29:31.680 extreme I think there's a rise in that there's a rise in this kind of politics where it's going
00:29:35.840 to be stripping people with the rights and that's something that I might know more about and I think
00:29:39.480 It's not the number one issue, which is what you asked me about.
00:29:42.980 The number one is affordability.
00:29:44.340 And that's something I think you play a part in.
00:29:46.280 Affordability, right.
00:29:47.040 So Gen Z holds, the average debt in Gen Z is $94,000.
00:29:53.040 And the average 30-year-old does not own a house or is not married anymore.
00:29:56.840 In the 1960s, the average 30-year-old was married and had a kid.
00:29:59.560 Today, like less than 10% at the age of 30 are married and can own a home.
00:30:04.620 Owning a home is a pipe dream now.
00:30:06.640 Getting married and having children by that age is also a pipe dream.
00:30:09.040 so like why does that happen why are we at this place right now
00:30:12.140 i don't know we're at this place because military spending is the number one that's where the budget
00:30:19.920 majority goes 70 of our budget is towards the military industrial complex where are we spent
00:30:25.020 where is the military fighting wars why is this so expensive
00:30:28.900 okay if you're asking these questions and i say i don't know i don't know now if you want to say
00:30:36.120 I'll just say, if you say I have an issue with how much they spend on the military budget, and I don't think it's justified, I think it's for the wrong reasons, you probably get me to believe that and I can learn more about it. And I'm more than willing to. But I don't know what that has to do with my criticisms of you and what you're saying earlier. What does this have to do with that?
00:30:56.940 because you're criticizing my worldview and who i'm aligning with politically and i'm explaining
00:31:02.160 to you what the most important issue is to me right so you have strong opinions about that
00:31:06.080 while also admitting that you don't have strong opinions about what you think the solution should
00:31:10.560 be so i'm not i'm not okay so but you scrutinize my worldview i'm trying to figure out yours
00:31:17.500 you said the biggest issue is affordability i'm trying to tell you why that is why there's an
00:31:22.160 affordability crisis okay the other thing you listed was ai the other one you listed as ai
00:31:29.340 llms and chat gpt have been infiltrated completely by zionists sam altman is the owner of chat gpt
00:31:35.120 he's a gay jew netanyahu has said publicly how they're using llms and how they're they're
00:31:40.160 programming it to fit their agenda the reason that ai is a place in these jobs so quickly
00:31:44.380 is we have to look at who's behind it and who's controlling it the reason that there's an
00:31:48.640 affordability crisis, you could even go back to the central bank system that started from the
00:31:52.640 Rothschilds. Epstein in his files recently just said he represents the Rothschilds. We no longer
00:31:57.020 operate off of a gold standard. The Rothschilds, they are the ones who bought the land and were
00:32:02.640 able to make the trade deal with England to displace Palestinians and to start Israel.
00:32:08.160 Israel is connected. Israel exists because of the Rothschilds. Epstein represented the Rothschilds.
00:32:13.380 So the affordability crisis goes right back.
00:32:16.660 And apparently you seem like you agree with me that Israel is the main issue.
00:32:20.940 Israel is the main parasite causing the problem that you said is the main concern.
00:32:26.000 No, see, I would agree with you if I believe that that was true or if I knew that was true.
00:32:29.780 I don't.
00:32:30.400 So that's why I don't put it up there.
00:32:31.880 Now, if it turns out to be true, then we can have a different discussion.
00:32:34.140 But I don't believe that or I don't know that.
00:32:35.400 What do you need me to look up to show you that the Rothschild started the central bank system and also started the formula?
00:32:40.120 Well, I would have to actually look up a lot of information and read up on it.
00:32:42.980 This is not something I read up on, so I'm going to just be very transparent and say, I don't know.
00:32:46.360 But what I am going to get back to is when I criticize you, I don't criticize you because you are critical of Israel.
00:32:52.300 I don't criticize you because you want to talk about the Rothschilds or any of these things.
00:32:57.000 My criticism of you is how you're engaging with facts and how you determine something to be a fact when you repeat it.
00:33:03.460 Your definition of investigative journalism, your idea of caring for people and thinking about the rights of fellow Muslims or fellow Haitians or whatever.
00:33:12.220 And then also aligning yourself with people who would probably harm that.
00:33:14.940 These are criticisms that are very pointed and very specific.
00:33:17.360 And then you're pointing me to the economy and then Israel's influence.
00:33:21.340 Are you trying to say, I'm ignorant of Israel, and you think it's more important to align yourself with these people who are against Israel, even if it hurts your own people?
00:33:32.420 One, I don't concede and think that it hurts my own people.
00:33:35.600 I think that there's more of a benefit than Israel being in control right now.
00:33:38.720 And my second point is that I think you should redirect the energy that you spent.
00:33:43.940 You've brought up so many clips of over the years, of things I've said, of debates, of
00:33:47.800 my career, that would be better invested into the power structures and into the main concern.
00:33:52.760 You said the main concern in the West right now is the affordability crisis.
00:33:56.160 If you had invested the time you spent on investigating me into why there's an affordability
00:34:00.380 crisis, that'd be a better use of your platform.
00:34:02.600 I think you should apply that same criticism towards me, towards what's going on in the
00:34:06.840 world.
00:34:08.720 Well, no, because there's other people who do it and I trust them to do it and I'm good with them
00:34:12.400 I want to focus in on the things that I'm interested in that I feel like are my purview and that I have a genuine want for
00:34:19.480 It's not my responsibility. Let's say tomorrow. Okay. There's a housing crisis
00:34:24.520 Okay, a housing crisis is so bad. Half the people are homeless
00:34:27.820 If I don't have a genuine motivation or if I'm not deeply interested in learning all the facts and learning everything and speak on it
00:34:34.240 I don't have a responsibility to talk about it
00:34:36.200 that's akin to you saying i should everybody should stop talking about everything because
00:34:40.660 israel is a big deal is that what you want for the world so do you find me more interesting than
00:34:45.320 israel no i find talking about the way content creators engage with content and their influence
00:34:51.780 and and all these things important one two i feel internally motivated by it yeah i feel
00:34:57.960 more interested in talking about why how people engage with facts why yeah
00:35:03.000 why am i more interesting than israel it's not you specifically you act like i wake up in the
00:35:13.220 morning i'm like what's nicole to but you've invested more time into me than israel you've
00:35:19.500 admitted yeah i've invested more time into learning about people in my sphere more than a lot of
00:35:26.380 political issues what's wrong with that because that's not the main issue because that's less
00:35:31.360 important i have less influence it's less important you you think it's a top issue i would argue that
00:35:39.280 so do you you said the affordability crisis is the main issue yeah but you're saying the affordability
00:35:44.720 crisis is israel that's not what i said that's what you said well okay but you said the issue
00:35:48.800 is the affordability crisis but you've also said you don't know why that is so you've invested more
00:35:52.800 time into me than what you think is the main issue which is the affordability crisis so therefore you
00:35:57.760 you find more me more interesting than the main problem in america there's two parts there's two
00:36:01.560 parts there's two parts there's two parts something could be the top problem and i could
00:36:04.820 deal with another problem that i think is also important and you're saying there's something
00:36:08.160 wrong with me dealing with number four on the list instead of number one why why wouldn't i
00:36:12.760 deal with number four if it's more interesting to me because then your priorities are out of whack
00:36:15.840 the priority should always be number one right your focus should be on number one not number
00:36:20.640 four or six or seven no you're wrong you're wrong i think the priority of our government
00:36:25.640 and the people i elect who actually have the capabilities their priority should be on that
00:36:30.200 my job and what i'm going to take an interest in and what i'm going to influence is what i feel
00:36:35.700 one capable when within my interest interest field and that's what i'm like it's a very weird
00:36:42.300 thing that you're doing because you're essentially saying because i didn't put my focus on the number
00:36:46.360 one issue in the world there's something weird about that i'm not saying it's weird i'm not
00:36:50.320 saying it's weird i just i think that your your fixation and your priorities could be well
00:36:55.320 obviously your priorities are not number one.
00:36:57.160 You don't, you're not,
00:36:58.220 you're not even focusing on what you think is the main issue.
00:37:00.720 And I think that's the best use of your platform and your,
00:37:03.140 and your voice.
00:37:03.640 You have a big audience.
00:37:04.520 I'm focusing on the issue that I,
00:37:06.180 that I could best influence and that I'm most internally motivated by.
00:37:10.560 Right.
00:37:10.860 Like if somebody does,
00:37:12.020 hold on,
00:37:12.200 hold on.
00:37:12.520 If somebody does woodworking and that's where their talent is,
00:37:15.360 that's where their skill,
00:37:16.420 but the world needs a lot of engineers.
00:37:18.240 I don't tell the woodworker to stop being a woodworker,
00:37:20.660 do what you're good at,
00:37:22.040 contribute to society your way.
00:37:23.380 not everyone has to go into engineering because that's what we need find your lane and be you
00:37:28.080 okay but but how could you even know if what i'm doing is correct or genuine or the best it could
00:37:33.820 be while also admitting that you don't know the power structures right if you don't understand
00:37:39.460 what the power structures are then you're not able to have a fair criticism about my platform
00:37:43.620 because you don't know how the world works if you are saying okay my criticism of you is not that
00:37:49.100 you have the wrong priority that's not my point my criticism of you is that you are advocating for
00:37:54.760 people whilst aligning yourself with people that are gonna hurt your folks that's it right a lot
00:37:59.200 of people in your circle oftentimes perpetuate a lot of anti-black rhetoric or they say a lot
00:38:03.600 of racist shit or they say things that's in favor of one group over the other that's the truth their
00:38:07.940 political worldview is one that in which their group benefits and other folks are hurt that's
00:38:12.300 the people that you surround yourself with a lot of times right so i'm saying if you're gonna
00:38:16.940 advocate for these people how do you hold that view and then also work with folks who are going
00:38:20.980 to hurt that now we just disagree on the fact that they're going to hurt that hurt your folks
00:38:25.260 that's you haven't provided any valid evidence that they're going to hurt me especially i stated
00:38:31.660 why it's going to improve the life of muslims or brown people in america compared to the power
00:38:38.380 structure that exists right now i see it as an improvement rather than something that's harmful
00:38:43.120 and i don't know how you can make the comparison you're saying that it's going to hurt my
00:38:46.860 people well okay right now we're controlled by israel so if that's removed and i believe that
00:38:51.700 they are causing more harm to muslims and brown people than like a than a majority white country
00:38:56.980 or christian country that i don't know how you can make that determination while not understanding
00:39:01.580 what israel is doing okay let's say i agree with you let's say i agree that israel is the number
00:39:06.020 one issue okay but you also think it's very important to protect our people okay so i'm
00:39:10.900 going to disagree with you for the sake of this example the first question i would raise is do
00:39:15.420 have to align yourself with folks who are in there for afterwards it's going to hurt your folks let's
00:39:19.660 say my world is real okay that i believe that these people are going to hurt your your your
00:39:24.060 the folks that you claim to care about and also it will grant you that israel's the number one problem
00:39:29.260 okay i don't think it's a completely crazy thing for me to say first off you have to align yourself
00:39:34.700 with these people considering the after effects of them winning and getting more power is going
00:39:37.980 to hurt your folks that'd be the first question i would rise and then if you're saying yes then
00:39:42.060 then I think you could probably justify it,
00:39:43.760 but you'd have to acknowledge the fact that it's going to hurt your folks.
00:39:46.900 I don't think you can, based off of what you described about the world,
00:39:50.820 I don't think you can even fairly make the assertion that it's going to harm
00:39:54.940 without knowing who's in control now.
00:39:58.680 How could you insinuate that this is worse off
00:40:00.880 when you're saying you don't even know who's in control now?
00:40:07.960 If I'm saying who's in control now, how would you find it?
00:40:10.480 Are you saying that this power structure is going to harm if you're also saying that I don't know who's in control and I'm going to vote for people that know better than me?
00:40:18.460 How could you make the assertion that this is bad while not knowing what's going on right now?
00:40:27.280 I don't know what's going on right now.
00:40:29.860 You said you don't know why.
00:40:31.540 OK, you said you don't know why.
00:40:33.860 I'm actually trying to be second.
00:40:35.420 Yeah. You said you don't know why there's an affordability crisis and you're not going to invest time into doing that.
00:40:39.900 but you've made the assertion that the people I'm aligning with are going to harm.
00:40:44.040 You cannot confidently say that this is going to be harmful
00:40:47.500 while also admitting you don't know why there's an affordability crisis right now.
00:40:51.900 So you can't prove a negative.
00:40:57.100 Okay, I'm going to answer a part of this because it's a part I do understand, okay?
00:41:02.360 I know that if the extreme right or the groopers get in power,
00:41:08.100 that for minorities and for religious minorities like Muslims,
00:41:12.240 it's a bad thing.
00:41:13.740 They're very open about the fact that they don't like these groups.
00:41:16.580 They don't want them to spread,
00:41:17.640 and they want to maintain their majority.
00:41:19.520 So it is bad, right?
00:41:20.700 You're eliminating people's freedoms,
00:41:22.460 which in a country that should prioritize freedoms,
00:41:25.040 you're already that.
00:41:25.480 So it is inherently going to be bad
00:41:27.260 based off the things that they want as a whole few.
00:41:29.140 So I know that's going to be bad.
00:41:30.460 Is that better or worse than the power structure that we have currently?
00:41:34.000 is that better or worse than the power structure is a white majority majority christian country
00:41:41.880 like that power structure that you're saying is bad like nick fuentes is that worse off
00:41:45.820 than the power structure currently
00:41:47.380 i think it's very close i think it's very close i think you can make certainly the argument i think
00:41:55.260 either way whether you're going to be advocating for maga or you know the griper types i think
00:42:01.380 yeah you're fucking over your people yeah for sure no not not fucking over the people i don't
00:42:05.460 think that's a hot take though no no yeah okay right now do you agree that israel is in control
00:42:16.440 of america i think israel influences a lot yes okay i think it has a lot of influence yeah sure
00:42:24.840 and white majority christian somebody say it's like it could be anybody like that prioritizes
00:42:29.960 christianity does not want to have israel involved does that create a better say there was a white
00:42:34.920 christian leader of america and that doesn't have an allegiance to israel would that be a better
00:42:41.680 country for poor people muslims brown people would that create a better environment for those people
00:42:47.660 than what's happening with israel right now or that'd be worse i feel like this is what i feel
00:42:55.740 like this is like the question that's how i'm interpreting so you can get back i feel like
00:43:00.620 i'm living in i'm living in like jim crow segregation in america and you're like do
00:43:08.120 you feel like it's better to be with here or the nazis under them and it's like i feel like both
00:43:13.980 of these appearances are horrible for me as a minority and if i have an ideal choice i'm going
00:43:17.920 to try to align myself with people who are going to fight for my rights which one is more harmful
00:43:22.840 i would imagine probably nazi germia but okay instead of this hypothetical i'm talking about
00:43:30.240 what's happening now like that is my point though i think the gropers and their worldview is horrible
00:43:36.000 i think what they advocate for is horrible and i think what maga is doing is horrible so you got
00:43:40.620 these two groups and essentially i'm saying why don't you go with the third group which actually
00:43:45.800 benefits your people why align yourself with folks who are bad for your folks would you rather live
00:43:50.620 under zionist control or would you rather live in an america first control
00:43:55.360 oh oh for sure uh like i i 100 i would not support nick fuentes over whatever we got right now no
00:44:06.820 it's not my question but it is because you said no no it actually is it doesn't have to be said
00:44:10.700 it doesn't have to it doesn't have to be nick i'm not even saying i'm saying would you rather live
00:44:14.120 with i'm talking about nick and the grip yes yes i would know okay but that's not my question
00:44:19.100 or would you rather live you already said that we no no no no but you you already said that we
00:44:24.580 live under zionist control is that not true that's what you've been telling me this whole time that
00:44:27.400 i don't know if you live under the zionist control i don't know if you've agreed with that
00:44:31.120 i'm simplifying the question as best i can would you rather live with zionist control
00:44:35.440 without zionist control without okay hold on then we agree i want to live without hold on i want to
00:44:44.800 live without foreign influence as much as possible when it comes to how politics operate in my
00:44:51.100 country that's the answer okay so whether it's Zionist I don't want nobody you're kind of
00:44:55.700 obfuscating what's the majority of foreign influence in America if you want to say it's
00:45:01.260 I don't mind I agree I'm not asking what is it like what do you think it is so who's the where's
00:45:07.180 the majority of foreign influence coming from I imagine it's going to be probably at least for
00:45:13.120 the us probably apac and israel okay and so that's that's causing the affordability why are you acting
00:45:18.700 like i'm afraid to say it i'm not afraid i'm not acting like you're afraid to say it but i'm trying
00:45:23.540 to i'm trying to point out why you may i think you're getting distracted by some of the the
00:45:29.660 the racist rhetoric you point out jim crow and that's preventing you from seeing the bigger
00:45:33.820 picture like overall this stuff is very minor compared to the bigger issue and although again
00:45:39.580 i have disagreements with i have disagreements with white christians but those disagreements
00:45:45.120 are so minor compared to what's really happening and what's causing all the problems in our country
00:45:49.800 and that's what i'm focused on getting rid of what i want to change
00:45:53.540 i just think that right now under the zionist control that you claim you have more freedoms
00:46:01.100 than you would have if you were under a completely right-wing authoritarian or the folks who want to
00:46:07.020 just focus on making sure that whiteness is the major priority but you said
00:46:11.700 yeah the main issue is not freedom you said your main issue was afforded you
00:46:15.960 see the main problem is affordability that's the main concern happening in
00:46:19.500 America okay I'm following your concern no no concern means that this is the
00:46:29.220 issue that we have right now but it's only number one because our other needs
00:46:34.520 are met for the most part if your political friends got their way we would have new number
00:46:41.540 one priorities because i personally don't really kind of think about housing as much or affordability
00:46:46.820 if i'm going to be jailed for whatever reason or if i'm going to be denied certain opportunities
00:46:52.720 in terms of work because they want to make sure white folks are in power so no that's going to
00:46:57.300 change the priorities obviously yeah i'm glad that these people don't have power because if they had
00:47:02.440 power would be worse off for all of us, including the Muslims and Haitians. Yeah. Okay. But freedom
00:47:06.700 is at number four, right? And affordability is number one. Sure. Yeah. Right now. Okay. Well,
00:47:13.980 do you agree that number one is the most important? Yes. Okay. Hold on. We don't. Okay.
00:47:25.400 And these words matter. When you say what's the priority priority doesn't mean it's more important.
00:47:30.200 I don't think affordability is more important.
00:47:33.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.
00:47:33.680 Listen, listen, listen.
00:47:35.720 When I say it's the priority,
00:47:37.680 you're not prioritizing something
00:47:38.800 because it's more important.
00:47:40.260 You're prioritizing something sometimes
00:47:41.940 because it's more pressing.
00:47:43.500 More pressing means that it's an issue.
00:47:45.720 So example, Suniko,
00:47:47.140 is having a house or ability to pay for things important?
00:47:53.620 Yes.
00:47:55.520 Okay.
00:47:56.180 Is it more important than having human rights?
00:48:00.200 Human rights is a broad term.
00:48:02.520 What do you mean specifically?
00:48:05.040 So let's say you lived underneath a government where you had no human rights.
00:48:07.840 They could jail you anytime they want.
00:48:09.680 They could kill you and you're not a human.
00:48:11.160 So that's it.
00:48:13.520 So, okay.
00:48:15.460 The question is, what's more important, owning a home or having government infiltration?
00:48:23.720 No, I'm asking the simple question.
00:48:25.780 What's more important in life?
00:48:27.340 having house or affordability or human rights well i don't think the two things are mutually
00:48:33.580 exclusive because why you wouldn't have human rights if you weren't able to buy a home like
00:48:38.580 that i think there's an overlap there these two things aren't separate if you lived in a country
00:48:41.960 where you had no human rights okay but affordability was a problem what would be your
00:48:46.900 priority where there's human rights and owning a home but those that question doesn't make sense
00:48:53.780 listen to the question you have no human rights and affordability is really bad you live in this
00:48:59.480 country there's no human rights okay the government can do whatever it wants fully authoritarian okay
00:49:04.960 okay this is what i'm saying no human rights affordability is bad what's the priority what's
00:49:11.120 more important once again there's an overlap there because like human rights are being able
00:49:16.460 to own a home that's part of a human right is owning a home owning a home is a human right
00:49:22.220 when did that having the ability to live in a house yeah like that stuff is part of human
00:49:27.660 like having a roof over your head okay so i'm going to answer the question for you since you're
00:49:31.380 dodging okay so the question the answer is this human rights are obviously more important you
00:49:35.560 literally can't live or have freedoms if you don't have human rights is human rights a priority to
00:49:41.080 me today no because we don't have an issue with human rights so i would put affordability as the
00:49:46.480 number one priority because that's where we're struggling it does not mean that that is more
00:49:51.360 important it's just more pressing right now that's the distinction i'm trying to make you think that
00:49:56.180 because i prioritize this i think it's the most important thing in the world no i'm saying we have
00:50:00.020 to focus on this because the house is on fire but after the house is not on fire i still think human
00:50:05.420 rights are more important it's just this is the number one priority okay i mean i don't think that
00:50:10.660 frame of the question makes sense because yeah being able you're saying that being able to live
00:50:16.300 right you can't raise a family or live properly without a having a home like so i i don't see
00:50:21.620 how that makes any sense wait you're not actually trying to say that having a home is like a is
00:50:28.340 equal to like the right to freedom do you what do you mean the right to freedom well do you think
00:50:35.180 that's like a more important human right what do you i'm asking i want to hear what do you what
00:50:39.000 does that mean the right to freedom like to live in a country where basically owning a home is a
00:50:44.460 human right okay let's say that exists do you think that that is right that's human right in
00:50:49.040 america is being able to own a home that's part of human rights no that's something that we ideally
00:50:52.780 want for people but it's not a human right so what are human rights to you human rights involve a lot
00:51:00.340 of your most basic necessities in regards to like a home if you don't have a home you can't hold on
00:51:05.600 that you would expect to be enshrined in the law there is no law that says you have to have a house
00:51:10.440 there is no law that says that you have the ability to but it says you have the ability to
00:51:14.940 own a house i mean i would agree with that but that's not something that the government has
00:51:20.160 but the government has to ensure that you have the right to freedom that it won't be infringed on
00:51:25.240 that's a right that the government has an obligation okay okay so these two things are
00:51:31.740 fundamentally different there's a priority so i can think that affordability is more important
00:51:34.460 that you should have a need to be able to afford food and all these different things i think it's
00:51:40.040 important that we take that down but it's not important more important to me than basic human
00:51:44.000 rights okay i'm so confused about what you think basic human rights are like what so the right to
00:51:55.900 freedom in this case would be like the right to live your life without the government in this
00:52:02.220 case taking that away from you so they can imprison you they could kill you at will i mean
00:52:06.800 Right now, they're putting people in jail and deporting people who are saying things they deem anti-Semitic.
00:52:11.980 Police in Miami are going to people's houses because they're criticizing Israel.
00:52:15.000 The mayor of Miami, who said, I'm not welcome in Miami anymore because I enjoyed a song,
00:52:20.180 he sent police officers to people's houses because they infringed upon speech that he didn't like.
00:52:25.360 So right now, you're seeing this infringing.
00:52:28.180 And that's why it's at number four. It's the problem. It's definitely a big problem for sure. Number four.
00:52:32.800 And number one is affordability.
00:52:35.560 Yeah.
00:52:35.960 Okay. All right. Yeah, I think it'd be beneficial to look into the affordability crisis and why we have this issue now, why there's a debt crisis, you know, student loans, mortgages, the 2008 housing crisis, the central bank system, this stuff, where the money's going and why this happens if that's your number one issue.
00:52:59.020 that people to interest you know would look at the world economic forum saying you're not
00:53:07.700 going to be able to own anything they want us to to rent forever the wealth gap is getting bigger
00:53:13.460 like you could agree right that one percent holds so much of the wealth compared to the 99
00:53:17.540 even the 0.1 you should look at who that one percent that point one percent is and why that
00:53:22.860 is sure sure but i i just i feel like this is a lazy way of dealing with an issue that's
00:53:28.540 multifaceted i don't believe that the reason why everything is unaffordable is jews in israel but
00:53:34.540 it sounds like you're saying it's just but you keep on proving negatives you say i keep hearing
00:53:38.040 did you say what is it no you say what is it but it's like okay what so you don't think that
00:53:42.660 there's other forms of greed involved you don't think there's a tremendous amount of incompetence
00:53:45.940 you don't think there's shortages and resources like the idea that we have a big problem when it
00:53:49.740 comes to affordability when it comes to whether or not we have access to food on a cheap scale
00:53:53.400 and you're just going jews it sounds lazy i'm not saying that's honestly that's not what i said
00:53:58.620 and you're trying to figure that is what i said actually i explained the rothschild bank system
00:54:02.700 i explained how they have connections to israel i explained how they got the land how the england
00:54:08.280 sold this to them and you said you didn't know this and you didn't look it up i didn't say jews
00:54:11.860 i explained specific reasons and then you said you didn't know i never said jews no you said
00:54:16.800 you said you said zionism no i said the rothschild bank system is directly correlated to why that
00:54:23.020 there's an economic problem right now why things are unaffordable and you said ai i specified who
00:54:27.460 you said correlated i you you listed your reasons why you think there's an affordability crisis i
00:54:33.800 described it i said who's in control you said ai is taking all these jobs i've described to you
00:54:38.020 who's behind llms who owns chat gpt netanyahu and saying what he's using ai to benefit i explained
00:54:44.480 I didn't just say Jews, I'm giving you specific people in charge and things that are happening
00:54:48.720 right now, and you said you didn't know this.
00:54:51.560 Which are connected to the Jews, correct?
00:54:54.500 You're explaining me how, but you're saying...
00:54:56.160 But you just simplified it, and you said, it sounds simple, and you're just saying
00:55:01.900 Jews, but that's not what I'm saying.
00:55:03.100 I'm giving you specific reasons why this is.
00:55:05.900 Yes, but everything you just said still comes back to exactly what I said, which is that
00:55:09.760 if you look through the thread long enough, you go to Russia style, and Israel, you talk
00:55:14.000 to this person and they talk to not yahoo and israel at the end of the day it all leads back
00:55:18.060 to what the jews what's your point at the end of the thread what yeah what's your point so it is
00:55:23.820 the jews you're saying you're explaining how but you're saying it's the jews not it's not all jews
00:55:28.480 i never said that i'm saying that israel has control over this and this is where our tax
00:55:32.860 dollars are going and there's a specific group of jews in israel who are using america as resources
00:55:37.980 but there's so many jews who have nothing to do with this i think you're also simplifying it by
00:55:41.320 Okay, so it's not all the Jews.
00:55:42.720 All of it leads back to some of the Jews.
00:55:47.460 I mean, that's a simple way of describing it,
00:55:49.620 but I would never characterize my perspective like that.
00:55:54.240 Right, but eventually if you follow the thread,
00:55:56.720 all the different ones, it leads back to some of the Jews.
00:55:58.940 That's what you said.
00:56:00.480 You've explained how very technically.
00:56:03.240 You're essentially saying it leads back to the Jews.
00:56:04.640 Well, I'm following your line of law.
00:56:07.040 I'm not even saying that from mine.
00:56:08.560 You said your most important issue is affordability.
00:56:10.220 it was ai and economy and i gave you two things and it went back to the wrong simple question
00:56:15.380 you feel like as you explain it it leads back to some of the jews
00:56:19.460 the affordability crisis right now yes yeah
00:56:25.180 okay i would just imagine that someone who's not connected to the jews or industries that are not
00:56:31.900 necessarily connected deeply to the jews are also probably influencing a lot of the affordability
00:56:36.260 issue that would be they also are but i'm calling that you you said these are the two things
00:56:41.420 affecting affordability crisis so what else is it like what else is affecting affordability
00:56:46.460 what you're telling me to look into israel all these different things because you're saying
00:56:50.700 this is the thing that's contributing or actually influencing or majoritarily causing the problem
00:56:55.860 i'm like okay i hear you say that but to me it just doesn't sound very convincing because it
00:57:00.560 feels very unique functional even though you explain the branch eventually just leads back
00:57:05.080 some of the Jews. Now look, you know, let me concede. Let me concede. I'll concede. Let me
00:57:10.540 concede. Let me concede. I'll concede. I don't know. And because I don't know, that's something
00:57:15.120 I'm going to have to spend some time looking into. Okay. So I'm going to admit I'm ignorant
00:57:19.060 and I can own that. Right. Okay. I heard what you said. I heard your theory. You know, I'm
00:57:24.760 going to sit here and be like, I don't know. Okay. I'll concede because I don't know all
00:57:30.120 these things. And so I'm not going to sit here and argue about the facts about the
00:57:32.320 Ross is Tylenol, I don't know.
00:57:33.960 But I, let's see here, probably reaching the end.
00:57:41.820 That's the opposite for me.
00:57:44.880 I had a different thing I actually want to talk about
00:57:47.060 with you, just last part.
00:57:49.480 Because in my research for this,
00:57:51.080 I looked into quite a lot of your IMDb related stuff.
00:57:54.560 I think you, I actually do quite a lot of short films.
00:57:58.240 I saw that you have worked on some productions.
00:58:00.080 You know, IMDb got about eight to nine credits.
00:58:02.560 I saw that you got quite a lot of fashion interest
00:58:05.080 in terms of a clothing label, things like that.
00:58:08.280 Mm-hmm.
00:58:09.480 Correct?
00:58:10.340 Say it again.
00:58:12.960 Fashion interest.
00:58:13.580 I know you had, like, a clothing label fashion line.
00:58:16.740 I'm going to drop it soon.
00:58:18.040 It's at sneeko.com.
00:58:19.180 I haven't released it yet.
00:58:20.000 I'm working on it.
00:58:22.480 And then last I also saw there was some modeling work as well
00:58:25.260 that you've done in the past.
00:58:26.200 So you've kind of, like, done quite a lot of extensive stuff
00:58:28.180 from cinematography to fashion and then model and also rap song yeah just made some songs a little
00:58:36.060 pump got you um i know it's been like your voice because you spent a lot of time
00:58:44.600 you spent a lot of time doing arts in order to like kind of find a sense of truth but some of
00:58:51.440 these artistic mediums are obviously just an expression of things that you find cool or
00:58:54.820 interesting where does these play a role in influencing you so when you're doing fashion
00:58:59.620 for example or when you're doing i'm not gonna say music because it's lyrical but let's just
00:59:03.740 say fashion what is that you're trying to do it's the stuff that i am interested in
00:59:11.880 i like fashion i like film i like music it's fun to do
00:59:16.860 is there any part of it that's like political to a degree or is it mostly just
00:59:24.560 an interest and it's not necessarily about truth it's just i think this should look nice or these
00:59:29.780 are colors it's yeah artistic expression stuff that i like
00:59:35.280 okay when you do a lot like the film stuff or when you're doing the youtube things
00:59:44.660 projects my experience is i'm watching you and i feel like there's oftentimes a message
00:59:51.280 Fair?
00:59:52.060 Yeah.
00:59:54.900 When you do things that are not message-related,
00:59:57.680 what influence do they have on you?
01:00:00.020 When you're not, like, connected to the political world,
01:00:01.460 because I think people talk politics all day,
01:00:04.020 and it's a big part of them, it's important.
01:00:05.740 And when you're not doing that, what does that influence?
01:00:08.660 What's that influence on you?
01:00:11.640 When I do things that aren't political,
01:00:13.480 how does that influence me?
01:00:16.100 Yeah, yeah, what does that do for you?
01:00:17.420 it satisfies my
01:00:20.180 need to
01:00:22.140 be creative.
01:00:32.480 I think the thing I'm wondering
01:00:34.220 is that I feel as though
01:00:35.720 often times politics is all-consuming.
01:00:37.940 You know what I'm saying?
01:00:39.520 Politics is all-consuming?
01:00:42.200 Yeah.
01:00:42.820 Especially if you're very involved in politics.
01:00:45.180 you know it could bleed into your personal relationships it could bleed into some of your
01:00:49.540 hobbies it could lead to a lot of things and i'm wondering for you is there ever things that you're
01:00:53.540 able to do that make you fully disconnect be it praying be it um the fashion related stuff yeah
01:01:00.640 how do i disconnect from politics i mean yeah it's different i'm not fully consumed by politics
01:01:06.620 it's one of the things i do but i play video games on stream yesterday i'm dropping a video
01:01:11.700 on my main channel tomorrow which is like a documentary and i'm dropping a clothing line very
01:01:17.040 soon when you meet somebody and they don't know anything about you they don't know anything about
01:01:23.600 your politics and conversations never not political is there ever a part of you because
01:01:28.960 obviously you have this persona a lot of people coming in with baggage or they come with preconceived
01:01:32.720 notions about you is there ever part of you that finds that kind of liberating when you're having
01:01:37.040 experiences are just very human on a very basic level absolutely yeah i mean this world politics
01:01:42.280 can get very messy and there's a lot of debates and it gets angry and it gets manipulative and
01:01:49.180 it's disingenuine i am probably an artist first and then streamer second for sure i mean my main
01:01:55.720 focus has always been to do films and then i like streaming a lot i've been really enjoying it but
01:02:01.660 this is something i see as uh as a hobby as uh would you
01:02:08.380 this kind of like the dichotomy between the you know the religious faith and also like the
01:02:13.980 artistic side because i do see actually when i was looking up all this stuff when i watched a
01:02:19.140 few short films i saw a lot of the artistic expression through that you know hearing about
01:02:23.100 your like love for museum and how you're like kind of proud about that that was cool
01:02:25.600 and then i always wonder considering like the religious side of things and how it sometimes
01:02:30.960 contrast with a lot of that kind of freedom expression and do whatever you want is there
01:02:35.020 ever a battle inside of you about that yeah for sure i mean stuff like art is not really
01:02:40.520 encouraged religiously and that's a that's different but i see art as a way to make
01:02:45.680 people think differently but i i it does not correlate at all with religion
01:02:50.820 yeah how do you cope to me they're almost like competing voices i know because i grew up in
01:03:00.140 you know like i used to
01:03:02.180 have quran readings on like saturdays and maybe learning the alphabet and learning how to read
01:03:10.420 and then we would talk also about hadiths and stuff like that but i remember just learning
01:03:14.380 about how like music was haram in a lot of situations again i'm not trying to be haram
01:03:17.040 police don't think that um i'm actually asking about the internal battle and what that's like
01:03:21.620 as your faith is growing and your love for the religion is growing but i also see such an artistic
01:03:27.000 side of you that's also seeming to want to express yourself how do you how do you manage that yeah i
01:03:32.220 think most people in the west can relate to that like most of what people do and evolve there's
01:03:36.260 going to be if you even live in america you're going to be committing haram you're sending tax
01:03:40.040 dollars to bombs and you know there's a place that allows for freedom free mixing is everywhere
01:03:44.820 i like music i should probably get better at that but it's just what it's like being in america
01:03:52.800 do you see yourself growing within the religion and staying in this country or do you feel like
01:04:01.180 you're most likely going to end up in a much more um non-secular country there was a period where i
01:04:08.600 thought about moving to bosnia but as of now i love america and i want to i want to remain here
01:04:15.680 but that's something i'm still trying to figure out man i'm only 27 yeah yeah i'm in a rush on
01:04:22.380 i'm not trying to get an answer for the future record i just um i uh i hear how outspoken you
01:04:29.380 are i hear how artistic you are and then i also know you have critiques of some of the
01:04:34.260 maybe more liberal aspects of a western society but i also wonder like do you feel like the kind
01:04:40.780 of stuff that you do the kind of stuff that you make that you'd be good living in a more
01:04:46.060 conservative part of the world do you ever think like that might be something that would hamper
01:04:51.280 Or do you ever think that you might have to sacrifice one point for the other?
01:04:54.740 Or just let me not think about it.
01:04:56.120 Yeah, I mean, that's why I'm imperfect.
01:04:59.240 You know, I am a sinner.
01:05:00.840 I want to still, I do enjoy the freedoms that America provides.
01:05:05.120 You know, that doesn't coincide exactly with my religion.
01:05:08.100 And that does make me imperfect.
01:05:10.380 And I do love that about America.
01:05:12.780 That I have the freedom of expression here.
01:05:15.120 And I have free speech.
01:05:16.220 That's stuff that doesn't, you know, it doesn't coexist with my faith.
01:05:20.380 but that's what makes this country great
01:05:23.180 I agree
01:05:26.700 I think for a long time
01:05:29.080 I kind of bought into a lot of this stuff
01:05:31.120 in regards to speaking poorly about the freedoms of the West
01:05:33.020 and like some of the habits
01:05:34.460 but I think I also realized that I think those are just
01:05:36.460 natural byproducts of the downsides
01:05:38.400 of having the freedom to be different
01:05:40.960 and I think
01:05:41.860 as bad as it is that we have
01:05:44.520 examples of like
01:05:46.800 some more extreme stuff where words don't have
01:05:48.800 meanings and that's also an issue
01:05:49.920 i think the other end of that spectrum is probably worse for someone like me
01:05:52.860 uh in my project i like dancing i dance professionally i enjoy going out i enjoy
01:05:59.000 just you know not giving a fuck about these things i enjoy making music i love to do production i
01:06:04.460 like making songs and i like working through the stems and doing all that little labor and i also
01:06:09.720 know that i grew up in a country where you know like if you were a musician and you said the wrong
01:06:15.180 thing you go to prison and people did go to prison and yeah i wonder if
01:06:29.580 i wonder if as you're hearing all these different voices pull at you whether it be the more liberal
01:06:35.020 folks and the more religious voice how do you what helps what do you lean on to kind of guide you
01:06:42.220 is it all just internal do you have specific people you speak to that you trust
01:06:47.320 is it just going back to the quran how do you how do you figure that out what to do with my time
01:06:54.000 not your time but the direction because obviously you have these competing forces pull at you
01:06:59.840 right and so how do you what do you lean on to find direction
01:07:07.060 i mean i just lean on back to the faith that's the the dean is the straight path that's what's
01:07:11.480 most important to follow obviously i speak to different people i have different different
01:07:16.240 friends from around the world i speak to them but obviously what's most important is the dean
01:07:19.500 okay all right um i think
01:07:31.240 and there's just one last thing i want to show you from like a previous conversation actually
01:07:38.960 know what let me pause do you have anything that you wanted to bring up before yeah no i mean uh
01:07:45.280 once again i'd like uh that i appreciate you trying to have a good faith discussion and
01:07:56.240 analyze my career and like what i'm putting out in the world fairly i think it comes from a
01:08:01.840 an overall good place a lot of people have been unfair and you probably aren't going to be
01:08:07.200 be incentivized to be fair about this i think a lot of your audience probably wants you to attack
01:08:11.500 but you must see something that that they don't and i think you think i've been mischaracterized
01:08:17.740 so you're you're approaching this from the right place hopefully i'll tell you what so so i get a
01:08:26.140 lot of criticism because they're like oh how about you're too soft on him he's clearly a grifter or
01:08:29.480 whatever like the reason i think i don't uh necessarily share that view it's like you have
01:08:35.560 taken unpopular positions on things and i don't think they are to your benefit i think the haitians
01:08:39.640 is a great example now maybe it's just due to it's politically tied to whatever it is but i actually
01:08:45.280 appreciate the fact that you took the time to say and try to disprove that stuff now other actions
01:08:50.780 you might take in my opinion might contradict that to some degree but i actually felt it was genuine
01:08:54.720 and i appreciate that because i do think i own being ethiopian so i'll oftentimes defend when
01:09:01.980 it's correct and i won't be hesitant about that and seeing you do the same thing for i appreciated
01:09:09.320 that uh i think i've seen other instances over the years where i'm like okay and i think as far
01:09:13.980 as the whole faith journey i know everyone clowns on you for that you know because you're an imperfect
01:09:18.220 muslim and whatever but i also think i've seen you try to be very consistent on that so that's
01:09:22.580 why i don't share everyone the idea that you're a flip-flopper so you know i i try not to categorize
01:09:29.760 people too hard i've definitely done that in the past and it hasn't been fair so you know i'm gonna
01:09:33.860 make that mistake again but i as i get older try to be a little bit more maybe i'm wrong and i just
01:09:40.000 want to believe in people a little bit even if they're doing things that i really disagree with
01:09:43.900 so i think that's one of these cases that's fair yeah um i think the um only i would do because we
01:09:56.420 did do this debate in the past and there's
01:09:58.440 one part I played and with all the life changes
01:10:00.460 you had I just wanted to play it I just wanted to ask you
01:10:02.540 if you think I'm tripping alright
01:10:04.240 even but don't make the stuff that you believe in
01:10:08.480 consume you in that okay so
01:10:10.400 there's a discussion that we had this was a peak
01:10:12.400 red pill era at the time and
01:10:14.380 this is a portion that I
01:10:16.400 really remember zoning in on just because it
01:10:18.420 was uh let me actually
01:10:20.280 put it like that a little bit smaller
01:10:22.400 okay so I'm gonna just play here
01:10:24.420 that sense and there's a lot of stuff they talk about reflection and pondering that you realize
01:10:28.740 like okay there's there's there's a certain sense of like as you get older and this is true for most
01:10:33.880 people and you're going to go through it yourself you're going to have a better view of yourself
01:10:37.540 almost like you're seeing yourself in the third person you know you play video games first person
01:10:40.820 shooting all the time playing a third person shooter is completely different because now you
01:10:44.100 got your whole body in frame you see what it looks like when you crouch i think as human beings we
01:10:47.540 gain more of that perspective as we get older in life if we're reflective enough and what i used to
01:10:53.120 believe at 21 i no longer believe now at 32 just because life's experiences and my own reflections
01:10:59.140 realize like that's not true at all maybe it's because you become more sedentary as you've
01:11:02.980 gotten older like maybe it's because it's like you're you become less of that aggressive man
01:11:07.560 that you were at 21 like right now i'm very like i'm all about my testosterone balls manosphere
01:11:12.600 shit and then maybe you're just 32 and you're like man let me settle down you like fucking
01:11:18.500 sneaker we all do yeah you you like fucking you pussy yeah believe it or not that shit gets old
01:11:27.380 no 100 no 100 and i could point you to you hundreds of players who are online right now
01:11:35.580 who have videos of them telling you you pussy gets old in fact how about i tell you this one
01:11:40.420 and this is this is something even andrew tate says this is something even andrew tate says
01:11:43.500 all right sex becomes overrated after time no it's overrated now yeah it's like these
01:11:51.060 new pussies like why do you think that is because you get used to it it becomes like
01:11:56.420 when you eat the same food over and over again it becomes boring that's why you get new that's
01:12:01.160 why you get new pussies so you spice it up or keep up that's what after you had enough new
01:12:05.680 pussy there is no more new pussy there's always you understand there's always no you think that
01:12:10.580 After you've had a few dimes, you realize dimes ain't nothing.
01:12:13.700 I think I do something about priorities, and I talk about, like, family and other things.
01:12:16.680 Do you feel like I was tripping that, or do you think I was, like, missing it?
01:12:21.300 Well, yeah.
01:12:22.420 I mean, pussy does get repetitive, and it's, like, it's a worthless pursuit.
01:12:26.920 But I still do maintain that the best pussy is new pussy.
01:12:30.200 That's going to be the – that hunt is still – it's never going to change.
01:12:33.420 The best pussy is not, like, how tight or, like, what type of girl.
01:12:37.040 it's always going to be that excitement of getting that new cash and the hunt and closing the kill
01:12:42.920 right but still it's just it's it's uh it's an empty pursuit it's uh still a wasteful it's a waste
01:12:50.180 of time yeah yeah i mean even for me back then when we had that discussion i think a lot has
01:12:56.180 changed for me um i'm actually less sedentary than i was back then so i had you know i'll be
01:13:02.080 moving a little bit more uh as i get older but um let's go i um listen i think some type of way
01:13:11.100 right now you thought some type of way before you've evolved i feel like you have gotten wiser
01:13:14.800 in many regards and i i always commend that we strongly disagree on things that's okay um at the
01:13:19.880 end of the day i want you to do well for your people i want you to do the right things and
01:13:24.140 even if it's not the things i think are right you know hopefully you find your way and i also have
01:13:28.520 to have enough humility to realize like i was wrong about some things back to tonight i'm still
01:13:32.700 so i appreciate you coming on i appreciate you giving the chance to kind of ask you these
01:13:36.840 questions and see where your head's at it takes it takes a real man to admit when he was wrong
01:13:41.880 and admit growth that's uh again that goes back to malcolm x he's all about growth i think that's
01:13:47.280 extremely important and i don't see a lot of humility or admittance i see a lot of ego from
01:13:51.920 from other creators especially in the red pill manager's face and it it blinds them from being
01:13:56.600 able to be honest so i think that that's uh that's an admirable characteristic about you
01:14:02.380 you know that's probably one thing i was going to say sneak up when you said you took the god
01:14:06.860 pill you were done with the red pill stuff and then you said but i still like agree with a lot
01:14:11.180 of it you know when i saw you as a younger version of yourself i'm not like i'll bring back the old
01:14:16.240 secret i think that kind of rhetoric is corny but i think one thing i loved when i was watching
01:14:21.380 those videos and i thought they're i've been watching them freshly now is that there was
01:14:26.440 arrogance there there was still like this kind of like puff your chest out attitude but there was
01:14:31.420 also enough self-awareness to be like y'all might be and we're all insecure and we're all just
01:14:37.020 projecting and the truth is i want to slap your face because i have this insecurity deep inside
01:14:40.960 of me but i felt like when i saw you during the humanosphere area i felt like you were doing
01:14:45.800 a little bit of the peacocking
01:14:48.120 whilst like
01:14:50.860 almost pretend
01:14:52.400 the insecurity wasn't there.
01:14:54.400 You know what I'm saying?
01:14:57.660 Did you guys see
01:14:58.560 the shift I'm talking about?
01:15:00.260 Yeah.
01:15:01.620 You know.
01:15:02.820 Yeah, absolutely.
01:15:03.680 And being a real man
01:15:05.020 is not being afraid of anything
01:15:07.200 and is addressing things head on
01:15:09.340 and being truthful.
01:15:11.160 So, yeah,
01:15:12.560 there is a lot of that rhetoric
01:15:14.020 and red pill.
01:15:15.800 um i'm not uh i'm never i'm never trying to start something but the last thing i was going to leave
01:15:22.660 on is just um when you you look back on the red pill era is there what is your i remember watching
01:15:31.420 your biggest regret was associating with those goofballs is there anything other than that that
01:15:36.220 you stuck back to your life i don't live with regret i think it was important i think it was
01:15:40.100 important to to realize who's real and who's fake and i think it was important to to go through that
01:15:46.700 because i have now realized that i could be too trusting and i assume that many people have the
01:15:54.500 same intentions that i have but many of them most of them if not all of them don't you know just
01:16:00.560 because that you shouldn't align with people so easily and that most people are going to be
01:16:05.520 looking at you like vultures especially in the content creator's face like i do think that the
01:16:10.420 red pill like the that stuff is important but so many people that have taken advantage of it the
01:16:15.560 reason that it's lost its credit why i say red pill is dead is because the people that are at
01:16:19.380 the forefront of the space are frauds uh they can't speak they don't know anything uh they're
01:16:25.660 pussies and there's just no point in listening to them and they'll they'll snake you for a dollar
01:16:31.240 yeah i think uh i think the leaders being a bunch of frauds you know i mean so many of them
01:16:37.960 exposed it's like either paying for stuff or whatever like that you know i don't get the
01:16:42.860 details but um beyond even just the people actually we brought this up at the beginning
01:16:49.340 but you remember when we talked about the importance of loyalty in this space and how
01:16:54.760 people talk about you got to be loyal to the people more than that do you ever feel like
01:16:58.300 there's a time where you compromise your values to be loyal to people or you might have bite your
01:17:02.000 tongue in order to maintain a friendship probably i can't think of uh specific incidents at the top
01:17:10.840 of my head but sure yeah remember when you were defending fresh and you went to war with moist
01:17:17.160 critical and now that dude's on his podcast trying to put a hit on you that's crazy bro i'm not gonna
01:17:24.920 bro that's crazy i mean you had you were running around with a gun like
01:17:29.360 the world hating you and i was like damn and that same dude is like
01:17:34.140 it was sicko from the club he's like fuck you bro that's crazy no yeah yeah yeah yeah no
01:17:45.420 not uh abba did uh i think you did one you probably did warn me about that for sure
01:17:50.860 no yeah i'm actually not even trying to take a victory lap that's not important i just think
01:17:56.200 like no i was definitely i was definitely vindicated on that shit i ain't gonna lie
01:18:01.160 yeah bro and the voice critical thing that was literally one of my i gotta ask you question
01:18:06.620 because i remember moist moist did a video about fresh thing he got a thousand dollars
01:18:10.640 and you're like yo don't ever talk about you know he got a thousand dollars
01:18:13.940 can we just put that shit to rest please
01:18:16.320 uh that's all good i wouldn't ask you to do that i just with you a little bit but you know
01:18:21.840 you know damn well when you was defending him i'm like yeah i mean bro i mean i'm a ride or die
01:18:28.720 homie man i'm uh but you can't lie to the people though you can't lie to the people remember you
01:18:33.920 told me you know you can't do that no i mean there's there's a valid point there for sure
01:18:37.840 but you gotta defend him on something that's true i'll just with you a little bit that was funny
01:18:44.160 though when you that chat that was the gotcha moment that was the gotcha moment that you guys
01:18:49.960 are waiting for the whole time no you did no no no no that was the gotcha it's because my room was
01:18:55.620 in the chat just yapping and i just thought a lot of fresh on that pod with fucking gary be like
01:18:59.920 sneaker i'm gonna make sure something happens and you're gonna feel the pain and i was like damn
01:19:03.620 for 200 viewers you put a threat on this nigga but he defended you against voice critical that's
01:19:10.260 crazy yeah that was on the the fresh and fit channel yeah yeah let me just take it down so
01:19:17.440 you know shout out to them for doing that but listen bro yeah um i know we have some strong
01:19:20.420 disagreements and honestly if you feel like i did something actually you know what let me ask
01:19:24.420 before i leave do you feel like i did something wrong do you feel like i did you dirty any type
01:19:27.620 i think you you came off genuine and some people in the chat are saying it's bad faith i don't
01:19:33.400 think so i think this is your your worldview and it's good to have discussions like that
01:19:39.180 yeah bro i truly love my ancient people i actually deeply care for them and i know you do so like
01:19:47.140 that part got heated for that reason because i really think you do so that's where that came
01:19:51.000 from but actually i have real love no i learned the language so you can imagine how much appreciation
01:19:56.460 i got for my haitians for my zoos okay so that's something that we're always going to share and
01:20:00.860 let's i'm wishing you the best and i hope that uh yeah i hope uh i thought it's got something from
01:20:06.520 best to you too abba let's uh best of luck on your trip and uh safe travels back home
01:20:13.480 thank you man have a good night bro all right dang god dang
01:20:20.140 fine we're getting to the content now how long was that conversation
01:20:23.940 holy i've been live for almost five hours
01:20:36.520 We'll be right back.