SHNEAKO - February 07, 2026
Aba DEBATES SNEAKO on Friendship w⧸ Nick Fuentes, Israel, Epstein and Religion
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1 hour and 21 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, Aiden and Snickers discuss Aiden's views on population growth, population control, and population growth in general. They also discuss the recent debate between Nick Cannon and Aiden on whether or not there should be a white majority in America.
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these people if they had their political will enacted and they are growing in influence
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would harm muslims that are just like you like you're not going to get more freedoms from muslims
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you're not going to get more respect or ethical behavior towards haitians if these people get
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their political worldview enacted and so i just have a hard time understanding how you could
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advocate for these people and really feel like you're defending them and at the same time help
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promote people whose world political view harms your focus they promote mine as well i mean look
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So your disagreement is collaborating with people that we disagree with right now?
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What are we promoting each other even though you're pro-pride parade and I'm not?
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And a lot of his goals are still stated in regards to the white majority stuff.
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He's talking about the fact that he wants, like, a white core.
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i i find it interesting that there's a specific idea about a white core nick would you not concede
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the fact that both white and black americans that were imported here oh wait let me make sure
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everyone else can see so i'm just going to switch over and then i will move out like that through
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slave trade are the genesis of this country it should have just as much hold but i feel i'm
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pretty confident that if black americans had a majority core you would not be okay with it
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and then they became a majority. Would you be fine with it?
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bro, niggas a lost cause. It is what it is.
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i think it's actually sad bro i think there's another quote just a little bit earlier in this
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debate i'm gonna probably pop it in afterwards uh but i the reason why i brought up that example
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uh and the reason why that kind of stood out to me is like sometimes i'll hear nick and then he
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sounds like you know i just want reasonable grounds for us to be keeping the white majority
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keeping things good but you know these are americans these are our brothers okay and the
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reason why i brought the black americans is like obviously through the slave trade they were brought
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here they invested a lot of themselves over dozens of generations and i had the question in my head
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like if they have a claim to the country as well and that they've put their blood soil you know
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into the country and invested themselves then i think through a meritocracy or different amounts
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of choices if they end up populating more is that something that you would be fine with and he says
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no and to me it's very clear that one he wants you know a racial hierarchy in terms of just the
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numbers but also that anyone who's not white um there's going to be an upper cap or a limit even
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if they have just as much stake in the country in terms of their generational input into it and so
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when i hear him talk like this and then i hear a lot of his other views in regards to things
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um i think it's very clear how he wants to set up that hierarchy for his people and i feel like you
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don't necessarily disagree that you shared the fact that he should have a white majority do you
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also share the idea that black folks there should be a cap for african americans in regards to how
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high they can necessarily climb as a group or population size no i i don't believe in population
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control i'm not saying that i definitely don't believe that black people should be capped at
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how many kids they have but the same goes for japan is limiting the amount of immigration they
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want to maintain majority japanese people in the country russia can say that but so many times when
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americans say that that's seen as racist yeah i think overall if you look at history you look at
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successful nations nations that maintain their core and maintain a structure where there's a
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specific majority and specific ideologies in a specific government that's how you maintain if
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that all change if that's going to change rapidly as so rapidly it has in the past 20 years where
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the demographics have dropped whites used to be 80 of the population now they're 60 things are
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going to change in this country really quickly and everything points to the fact that that's it's not
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going to be successful so i understand wanting to have whites as the majority population
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in america well i don't think that necessarily relates to what i said and i don't think japan
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example even makes sense uh japan is not a multicultural project and japan also has a
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tremendous amount of issues in regards to birthing their own people themselves i mean they're on an
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island with just each other and they don't want to be fucking and having kids so you know they're
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a population that's dying out and they may have issues that they're going to deal with long term
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the idea that multiculturalism doesn't work because you point to japan sorry japan korea
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they also have a big crisis coming up with social security and old people not having enough kids and
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no one's stopping them from fucking okay we look to america america flourished under multiculturalism
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sure it had a white majority but its biggest boom came in from bringing people from foreign countries
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and then taking the best from all over the world for all different forms of jobs i've stated my
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my view on immigration many times i am pro-legal immigration i want to bring in immigrants who
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want to benefit this country but i'm not a fan of mass immigration mass imports from different
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demographics all over the world people who are getting h1b visas that stuff does not benefit
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and it just seemed that they use this country to extract resources for themselves without showing
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allegiance to this country that's not good for america i just sent you a clip too if you want to
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This clarifies Nick's stance on race and the idea of America first.
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i'll uh i'll pop it up on the same screen so we can all see it
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and this is a more recent clip the other one you showed is from four years ago this is from
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october 30th 2025. get some backbone oh hold up let me just make sure everything's good on the
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stream i'll do that i'll do it all right here we go get the courage of your convictions if you're
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out there and by the way i don't care what color you are i know maybe that's going to be controversial
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on my side but seriously if you have citizenship you were born in this country this is your birth
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right. This is our lives. This is our rights. This is our heritage. It's our tax dollars. It's
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our government. It's our military. This is our country. This is our empire. I'll unite with
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anybody who proclaims America first above all other countries, including and especially Israel.
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And they're on the other side of this one, and they're wrong.
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Anybody who says that America should come second needs to be reminded your place is number two.
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It's America first, second, third, fourth, fifth.
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Saying that people here, there's a lot of different demographics,
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and we should prioritize our country when it comes to nationalism.
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If you were from here, you're born here, you have American citizenship,
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you got to put America first above all countries.
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And the number one issue is people showing due allegiance to Israel.
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And so he'll align with people who agree with that.
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I agree you said like should we put caps on black people like no that obviously I don't agree with
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that if it naturally happens that a different race takes up the majority then there's no reason that
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there should be any sort of legal government infiltration to stop that right but I'm against
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mass immigration from different countries and overall like I don't agree with a white power
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structure but for a country to succeed it does need to maintain its original core and if this
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country started as a predominantly white country yeah i um i think that
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because a lot of these movements are going mainstream they're finding great ways to
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obfuscate their true views in order to be able to be politically expedient and i feel like i
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feel that when i see nick and i think i see that even with the current admin when i see rhetoric
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of stuff like deporting american citizens because they committed a crime
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time um and then oftentimes the way they talk about this is very specifically geared towards
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those of minority communities it's very clear to me then or it starts to become clear to me what
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i'm listening to when i hear things about how they want to close off immigration except from
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like white specific countries it's very clear to me what the project and the identity is
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and i don't know sneeko if you are looking at them for what they're actually trying to do and
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then just buying the the rhetoric i think me personally the way i've seen things evolve and
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how it don't even matter if you're a citizen anymore if you just got the wrong access my
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focus might be on that ass so to me i think it's almost too much of a good faith interpretation
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considering the past rhetoric and some of the actions that we're seeing and how they're being
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supported the idea that you're going to stop immigration but then you're only going to accept
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it for white south africans or whatever i mean that's not what next time i'm not i'm not talking
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about him specifically i'm not just just macroing out a little bit okay but i'm talking about how
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things are actually manifesting in terms of political behavior do you understand what i'm
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saying okay well i'm not sure what okay so who said that when has that ever been who made that
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point that immigration only from white countries i mean that's a that's a thing that's happening
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right now in terms of refugee status and who's allowed to even claim asylum the only ones that
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they're accepting for a group yeah that's the only ones they were accepting there's the ones
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from south africa the white ones specifically okay yeah i disagree it should be immigrants who
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want to benefit this country should be good immigrants i disagree with that
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okay i i can see that you disagree i'm just trying to tell you how they're actually manifesting i see
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what you're saying there's the rhetoric and there's what they're actually trying to get to
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as an end point that's what i'm trying to say okay i see what you're essentially saying is
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that you think that i'm being as a useful tool to push white supremacy right
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you and i have both made content in regards to wokeness in regards to sometimes black folks
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will have like this like victim narrative some of them they'll use the fact that they're black
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to just try to escape accountability when they hit somebody when they did something like these
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are all stories that you and i have covered okay and i don't know if you've had this but i cover
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it earnest i just don't like people being a scumbag and then trying to use like because
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black plight to me is a real thing the idea that you would use that to try to get out of something
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pisses me off but on the same token i also talk about the fact that sometimes folks get targeted
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on the basis of their race and that's also a real thing but when i cover certain stories
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or i do it a certain type of way sometimes i'll attract an audience that's not there
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for the same reason i am do you get what i'm saying okay
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and so i'm not even intending or i'm not even pushing some kind of narrative i'm just trying
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to say this is wrong and some of the people who are now cheering me on i'm realizing i'm
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them. And I think in your case, I feel like that's been the case a lot of times. I believe you really
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believe these things. I think you say them. I think you think it in good faith and you follow it. But
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I don't think, yeah, that some of the people that are involved or following are doing so with the
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intention that they actually like you. I think they think you're useful. Yeah. Okay. But that's
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not what I believe in. If there's an overlapping audience, I'm not responsible for all of their
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beliefs. People can disagree and watch my content for many different reasons. But pointing blame at
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the content creator while misrepresenting what they actually stand for is disingenuine.
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uh repeat that last sentence i understand saying your audience is racist therefore
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it's your fault that they're racist is not a fair criticism
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why because i'm not responsible for the beliefs of everybody that watches my content
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right but you do have control over how you curate things and the kind of people you attract no
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right and overall the most important issue the most pressing issue that we need to
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immediately address in this country i mean you're canadian you're not even american is how much
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israel is purging our country so his political movement is by and large the one that's threatening
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that power structure the most so if we can align with that if we can ally on that i see that as the
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the best use of my whatever political influence i have so you think it's more important to align
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yourself with potentially anybody and then fight against this issue that's what you're saying that's
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the most important issue in america right now is getting rid of apac that's not listed as a foreign
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agent and the israeli influence that's all over america epsyn files have determined just how much
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it goes and so this is the most important issue although i have disagreements and i disagree with
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nick on many things like venezuela we publicly talk about our disagreements he a lot of his
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supporters disagree with me about the Haitian cat situation what's most important is that power
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structure and challenging that so yeah it's fine if some people are going to watch my stream and
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disagree it is what it is yeah I would disagree that that's the most important thing and I would
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disagree that how you do it doesn't like you know if I align with some myself with some people whose
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political worldview being actualized would harm my people I just wouldn't do it because while I may
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be defeating a problem there i may be kicking a huger problem for me and my family or my people
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down the road like in aligning yourself with some of these folks you are also partially
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legitimizing the very people who will attack haitians for the cats and dogs you are like
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like i mean nick fuentes has got enough clips where they said what about the haitians and you
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trying to defend them and i know some of it was joking he came to new york he came to new york we
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did a vlog it was still a ban on youtube at the time he came out to me and he said that he respects
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me for defending Haitians in that situation because I was right about that and it was a lot
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of it was joking around about the Haitians and the cat thing because most of them are white and I'm
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not but he actually he gave me credit for being right about that yeah look I'm not here to say
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that Nick has no irredeemable qualities or he doesn't treat you in a way that's not the point
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I'm making I'm saying that if this person okay Nico I watched you debate Myron on Muslims praying
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in the square right and myron in that debate had the standard was that he's in the chat right now
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yeah let me listen you always be tuning in but um myron had the cookie cutter stance of like
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you know the hyper conservative like we don't want any religions of the catholicism around here
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the muslims are a problem when they're doing this in this public space we don't want that if it's
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not you know i was listening to that and then you gave the kind of freedom of religion concept in
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place. But in my head, I thought to myself, okay, you really seem to care about this. You want
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there to be a space for Muslims to feel like they're part of the country, all this stuff. I'm
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like, cool. And then at the same time, I see some of the people that you're surrounded with, folks
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you're promoting by, you know, spending a lot of time collaborating. I'm like, these people, if
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they had their political will enacted and they are growing in influence, would harm Muslims that are
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just like you. Like, you're not going to get more freedoms from Muslims. You're not going to get
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more respect or ethical behavior towards Haitians if these people get their political worldview
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enacted. And so I just have a hard time understanding how you could advocate for
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these people and really feel like you're defending them. And at the same time, help promote people
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whose world political view harms your folks. They promote mine as well. I mean, look, so your
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disagreement is collaborating with people that we disagree with right now. We're doing a stream
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together. It's like we disagree. What are we promoting each other, even though you're pro
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pride parade and i'm not no my point is not that you disagree with somebody my point is that
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oftentimes even when you're doing streams with these people you guys are not actively having
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debates where you guys are trying to disagree on the points that are important a lot of it is just
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you guys enjoying each other's company and really helping to promote each other's events and
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different things like that so you have to understand you're not just here with someone
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you disagree with you're here with somebody that you disagree with but you're also normalizing to
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your audience and you're and you're also helping to promote to more people so there is a nefarious
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aspect to it in which they grow and they get stronger and by their political strength end up
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hurting your people okay what is next i don't even think what i'm saying is that crazy because like
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even earlier i think you said that if malcolm x was alive today the person you admire he would
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look at you some type of way for the people you are with yeah i reiterate one i don't know what
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you're talking about with nick saying that muslims should be persecuted and two the one who is
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providing the most amount of persecution towards muslims is netanyahu in israel who i don't know if
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we both agree controls america they're in charge and they have been ones pushing the propaganda
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publicly saying they're giving influencers 7k to push this right whenever they try to cover up for
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the genocide in palestine they ramp up the hatred towards muslims this is why the praying in times
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square gets amplified so much to make people hate and to distract it's a distraction technique so
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if these people have done the most to make life for muslims difficult then if i align with
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christians who also agree that this power structure needs to be removed that is the best use of my
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voice okay but aligning yourself with christians on this issue is not something that i'm advocating
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against or have an issue with or i'm even highlighting i'm highlighting the fact that
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working with people and helping to make them more popular and more normalized and that their
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worldview hurts your focus that's what i'm talking about i'm not talking about you aligning with
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christians about the jewish stuff that's perfectly fine you could you could say the same thing about
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nick fuentes like they have the same criticism towards him they say a lot of them say i'm a
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brown clown steagle's a radical islamist you're amplifying him nick is far more popular than me
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currently and we still collaborate all the time he but this is what the content is you could talk
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to people that you disagree with i'm friends with people that i disagree with i don't stand for
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everything they stand for but we can have an overlapping agreement and we can speak about that
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and i've debated about venezuela i've debated him about many things i disagree with but i don't so
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what you're saying is i shouldn't amplify people who i disagree i mean then okay we have a different
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content method no no no no that's not what i'm saying i'm saying if you were becoming incredibly
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popular and advocating for Muslim positions, and we were seeing a surge of Islamic or Muslim
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related positions and their advocacy groups and their power structure growing, I think that Nick
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would face an immense amount of pressure from people in his sphere for ever associating with
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him. And I think it would be a political issue. You know how many people tell him that they should,
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I see this all everywhere from his associates, from his fans, they say that he should cut
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sneaker off because he's a brown muslim all the time and that that i'm getting amplified and that
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it's legitimizing what i believe in that's what that's that's a very that's a very common yeah
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yeah and i would say this if if he made the decision for the betterment of his people
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to decide to cut you off then that would make sense to me because it feels like it's congruent
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i don't see a growing muslim power structure so there's no threat so i think for him to actually
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remain friends with you doesn't actually threaten anything that he's doing but on the other hand
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it's completely different if the gripers or if the people who really align with the extreme parts of
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maga get to expand their powers absolutely you're going to see things happen to muslims in this
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country like what and actually in fact well you already saw it even with israel palestine who has
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legitimized israel more than this trump administration right they go out of their way
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the america first movement they didn't vote for trump he's criticized trump so much like
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heavily heavily criticized the war in iran and the fact that he hasn't deported enough people
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he's been criticizing trump the entire second term
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yes i think you're at least with nick and that word i was trying to explain to you that if you
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align yourself with let's say the mega folks for now you can see how i know i i i tell
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if you align yourself with the mega folks which you don't but let's say you did and you were
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constantly promoting them and you're doing labs with them get pop they get popular they get to
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power what ends up happening when you're seeing the effects on muslims either in foreign countries
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you're seeing the benefits to certain groups right you are part of that thing that ends up hurting
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the folks that you claim to care about in that same token if his political movement gets to grow
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okay it'll be at the expense it'll be into the benefit of white folks but it'll be at the expense
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of black it'll be at the expense of the haitians it'll be at the expense of the muslims they won't
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allow you the religious freedoms they will allow you the religious freedoms that you're asking do
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you think the groypers are gonna allow for you yeah do you think the groypers are gonna allow
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for you to do your muslim prayer time square okay at no point did he ever say that there shouldn't
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be muslims that exist in america in fact i think it benefits having a christian in charge that
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doesn't have allegiance to israel because america does have religious freedom and core american
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values allows for people to practice things freely so if we follow american doctrine this
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makes it a safer place for muslims than it does for the current power structure that's run by
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israelis also i'm not a fan of division right i want unity i want what malcolm x wanted i want
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christians and muslims to be able to coexist i want jews i want everybody to be able to coexist
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properly i think by not interacting with these people because i think that they have a disagreement
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with me i think that stirs up more division instead of creating unity if i want unity then
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i should be able to communicate with people i disagree with because muslims are only three
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percent of the population and so many people have disagreements but by having conversations
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and interacting this is normalizing the unity that i want in the future i'm gonna ask a question do
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you think that if the gropers managed to get the power that they would be fine with muslim prayers
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in the town square do you believe that yes okay do you believe that if muslims you know through
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their own choices to decide you know they were having kids because you know muslims generally
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have more kids than the other folks and generation after generation more muslims were having kids
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do you think that they would stop that from happening no why would you think that when
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i gave the example of black americans who have even more claim to this country
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outpacing the white folks he had an issue with that and that's not something you would accept
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Why do you think they would accept it from Muslims?
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Well, I said earlier, I answered that, that there shouldn't be force, control.
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There shouldn't be anybody stopping from black people from reproducing.
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I'm asking you what they think, the people that you're helping to promote.
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No, I do not think Groypers and Nick Fuentes would force black people to stop having children.
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I think that they would lower amount of immigration coming up, but I don't think, no.
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so they would just allow themselves to be erased by the reproducing black folks that's what you're
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saying you think they would just accept it i think that they would encourage white people
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to have more children and try to compete in that realm and maybe things like pride parades would
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stop being celebrated and then more normal relationships where children are being produced
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would be encouraged and there would be more of a push to have a actual nuclear family
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okay okay i think i think this is an incredibly good faith interpretation i think it's very
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charitable i don't think the rhetoric i've seen um from the right and from what i've seen from
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groupers really reflects that for me personally um but i think i i get where you're coming from
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i think that's probably something we disagree on but i don't think you know i think i can i don't
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think i have anything else i can actually do you want to say anything on this topic
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so that might be misunderstood what do you think is the number one important issue well you're
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canadian but what's the number one most important issue to address right now in america
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oh listen as a canadian like here's the thing right the main thing about america is like
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america is very interventionist and that involves itself in a lot of countries it creates a lot of
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these like very important trade goals and then it tethers itself to a lot of the infrastructure and
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And now, right now, it's pulling on that integration to apply pressure and change people's lives.
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So I can tell you here in Canada, our lives have been incredibly impacted by the new administration in regards to the economy, in regards to job opportunities and how we've had to change a lot of things.
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So as much as I don't want to necessarily have to care about American politics, unfortunately, we're just so tied together as neighbors and as economies that we don't have much choice.
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So when you ask me, like, are the Jews my main concern?
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Do I think what's happening is around Palestine?
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Because I know you talked about the influence of APEX.
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I'm just trying to get to the point I'm good at.
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For me, my top concern right now in the world is twofold.
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When it's the affordability crisis, I think that's just growing by the day.
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I think as job opportunities are disappearing, people are getting more and more lost and worried about their future.
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So that's my number one priority and my number one issue.
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So why is there an affordability crisis in America?
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I think with AI and a lot of that stuff, I think it's impacting the job market and the prospects.
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I also think economically speaking, you know, this own administration has done a lot of harm to its own economy.
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I think, personally, this is not a topic I really go in-depthly on because I'm just somebody who tends to view more than I do speak on it.
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So you said that the reason that there's an affordability crisis is AI and the economy?
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Well, I think the way that they've hampered their own industries, I think some of the investment choices that have been made.
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So I think, for example, the tariffs are a great example of things that have only hurt the world economy in general and America itself.
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I think jobs now are completely down than they were almost a year ago, and they're still going down.
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So obviously the job market is just fucking in the toilet network.
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It's so multifaceted in regards to the housing market.
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There's so many different things, but I personally just don't feel like the best authority on it.
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So I'm just asking what you think is the number one important issue.
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And so the reason you listed were AI and investments, right?
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Like the spending budget, where our money's going.
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And by investments, do you mean where our tax dollars are going and where
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American, the American budget's going, correct?
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investing into like the military industrial complex by the way that's the the number one
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spending uh this is number one um that's where most of the money's going if you're asking me
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the causes i have enough humility to this if you're asking me the causes i can't tell you why
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i can speculate but like it's just a very it's not something i'm well read enough to even point
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to sources okay so if i can tell you the one thing i said i could tell you the reasons why
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i can tell you what i think is the number one issue and that's affordable ability that's the
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real answer for you okay but i mean then then i don't think it's fair for you to be like overly
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so critical about who i'm aligning with and what the repercussions are what the future is going to
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happen if you have your very strong opinions about my platform and what i'm going to do
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while also admitting that you don't know what the main issue is
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what i don't know what the main issue is you said that the main issue is affordability and you don't
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know why it happens and you haven't looked into it so if you don't know that then then i don't
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think it's fair to also have so many criticisms about what I believe in and my political goals
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or my aspirations for this country how could you have strong opinions about me and my platform but
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not strong it's easy about the country super super easy I don't critique you about your points about
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affordability I think there's also the rise in fascism and right-wing groups that are incredibly
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extreme I think there's a rise in that there's a rise in this kind of politics where it's going
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to be stripping people with the rights and that's something that I might know more about and I think
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It's not the number one issue, which is what you asked me about.
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And that's something I think you play a part in.
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So Gen Z holds, the average debt in Gen Z is $94,000.
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And the average 30-year-old does not own a house or is not married anymore.
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In the 1960s, the average 30-year-old was married and had a kid.
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Today, like less than 10% at the age of 30 are married and can own a home.
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Getting married and having children by that age is also a pipe dream.
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so like why does that happen why are we at this place right now
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i don't know we're at this place because military spending is the number one that's where the budget
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majority goes 70 of our budget is towards the military industrial complex where are we spent
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where is the military fighting wars why is this so expensive
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okay if you're asking these questions and i say i don't know i don't know now if you want to say
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I'll just say, if you say I have an issue with how much they spend on the military budget, and I don't think it's justified, I think it's for the wrong reasons, you probably get me to believe that and I can learn more about it. And I'm more than willing to. But I don't know what that has to do with my criticisms of you and what you're saying earlier. What does this have to do with that?
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because you're criticizing my worldview and who i'm aligning with politically and i'm explaining
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to you what the most important issue is to me right so you have strong opinions about that
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while also admitting that you don't have strong opinions about what you think the solution should
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be so i'm not i'm not okay so but you scrutinize my worldview i'm trying to figure out yours
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you said the biggest issue is affordability i'm trying to tell you why that is why there's an
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affordability crisis okay the other thing you listed was ai the other one you listed as ai
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llms and chat gpt have been infiltrated completely by zionists sam altman is the owner of chat gpt
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he's a gay jew netanyahu has said publicly how they're using llms and how they're they're
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programming it to fit their agenda the reason that ai is a place in these jobs so quickly
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is we have to look at who's behind it and who's controlling it the reason that there's an
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affordability crisis, you could even go back to the central bank system that started from the
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Rothschilds. Epstein in his files recently just said he represents the Rothschilds. We no longer
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operate off of a gold standard. The Rothschilds, they are the ones who bought the land and were
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able to make the trade deal with England to displace Palestinians and to start Israel.
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Israel is connected. Israel exists because of the Rothschilds. Epstein represented the Rothschilds.
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And apparently you seem like you agree with me that Israel is the main issue.
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Israel is the main parasite causing the problem that you said is the main concern.
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No, see, I would agree with you if I believe that that was true or if I knew that was true.
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Now, if it turns out to be true, then we can have a different discussion.
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What do you need me to look up to show you that the Rothschild started the central bank system and also started the formula?
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Well, I would have to actually look up a lot of information and read up on it.
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This is not something I read up on, so I'm going to just be very transparent and say, I don't know.
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But what I am going to get back to is when I criticize you, I don't criticize you because you are critical of Israel.
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I don't criticize you because you want to talk about the Rothschilds or any of these things.
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My criticism of you is how you're engaging with facts and how you determine something to be a fact when you repeat it.
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Your definition of investigative journalism, your idea of caring for people and thinking about the rights of fellow Muslims or fellow Haitians or whatever.
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And then also aligning yourself with people who would probably harm that.
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These are criticisms that are very pointed and very specific.
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And then you're pointing me to the economy and then Israel's influence.
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Are you trying to say, I'm ignorant of Israel, and you think it's more important to align yourself with these people who are against Israel, even if it hurts your own people?
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One, I don't concede and think that it hurts my own people.
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I think that there's more of a benefit than Israel being in control right now.
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And my second point is that I think you should redirect the energy that you spent.
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You've brought up so many clips of over the years, of things I've said, of debates, of
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my career, that would be better invested into the power structures and into the main concern.
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You said the main concern in the West right now is the affordability crisis.
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If you had invested the time you spent on investigating me into why there's an affordability
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crisis, that'd be a better use of your platform.
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I think you should apply that same criticism towards me, towards what's going on in the
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Well, no, because there's other people who do it and I trust them to do it and I'm good with them
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I want to focus in on the things that I'm interested in that I feel like are my purview and that I have a genuine want for
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It's not my responsibility. Let's say tomorrow. Okay. There's a housing crisis
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Okay, a housing crisis is so bad. Half the people are homeless
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If I don't have a genuine motivation or if I'm not deeply interested in learning all the facts and learning everything and speak on it
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that's akin to you saying i should everybody should stop talking about everything because
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israel is a big deal is that what you want for the world so do you find me more interesting than
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israel no i find talking about the way content creators engage with content and their influence
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and and all these things important one two i feel internally motivated by it yeah i feel
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more interested in talking about why how people engage with facts why yeah
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why am i more interesting than israel it's not you specifically you act like i wake up in the
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morning i'm like what's nicole to but you've invested more time into me than israel you've
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admitted yeah i've invested more time into learning about people in my sphere more than a lot of
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political issues what's wrong with that because that's not the main issue because that's less
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important i have less influence it's less important you you think it's a top issue i would argue that
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so do you you said the affordability crisis is the main issue yeah but you're saying the affordability
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crisis is israel that's not what i said that's what you said well okay but you said the issue
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is the affordability crisis but you've also said you don't know why that is so you've invested more
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time into me than what you think is the main issue which is the affordability crisis so therefore you
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you find more me more interesting than the main problem in america there's two parts there's two
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parts there's two parts there's two parts something could be the top problem and i could
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deal with another problem that i think is also important and you're saying there's something
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wrong with me dealing with number four on the list instead of number one why why wouldn't i
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deal with number four if it's more interesting to me because then your priorities are out of whack
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the priority should always be number one right your focus should be on number one not number
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four or six or seven no you're wrong you're wrong i think the priority of our government
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and the people i elect who actually have the capabilities their priority should be on that
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my job and what i'm going to take an interest in and what i'm going to influence is what i feel
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one capable when within my interest interest field and that's what i'm like it's a very weird
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thing that you're doing because you're essentially saying because i didn't put my focus on the number
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one issue in the world there's something weird about that i'm not saying it's weird i'm not
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saying it's weird i just i think that your your fixation and your priorities could be well
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you're not even focusing on what you think is the main issue.
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And I think that's the best use of your platform and your,
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that I could best influence and that I'm most internally motivated by.
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If somebody does woodworking and that's where their talent is,
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I don't tell the woodworker to stop being a woodworker,
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not everyone has to go into engineering because that's what we need find your lane and be you
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okay but but how could you even know if what i'm doing is correct or genuine or the best it could
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be while also admitting that you don't know the power structures right if you don't understand
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what the power structures are then you're not able to have a fair criticism about my platform
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because you don't know how the world works if you are saying okay my criticism of you is not that
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you have the wrong priority that's not my point my criticism of you is that you are advocating for
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people whilst aligning yourself with people that are gonna hurt your folks that's it right a lot
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of people in your circle oftentimes perpetuate a lot of anti-black rhetoric or they say a lot
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of racist shit or they say things that's in favor of one group over the other that's the truth their
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political worldview is one that in which their group benefits and other folks are hurt that's
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the people that you surround yourself with a lot of times right so i'm saying if you're gonna
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advocate for these people how do you hold that view and then also work with folks who are going
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to hurt that now we just disagree on the fact that they're going to hurt that hurt your folks
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that's you haven't provided any valid evidence that they're going to hurt me especially i stated
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why it's going to improve the life of muslims or brown people in america compared to the power
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structure that exists right now i see it as an improvement rather than something that's harmful
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and i don't know how you can make the comparison you're saying that it's going to hurt my
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people well okay right now we're controlled by israel so if that's removed and i believe that
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they are causing more harm to muslims and brown people than like a than a majority white country
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or christian country that i don't know how you can make that determination while not understanding
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what israel is doing okay let's say i agree with you let's say i agree that israel is the number
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one issue okay but you also think it's very important to protect our people okay so i'm
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going to disagree with you for the sake of this example the first question i would raise is do
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have to align yourself with folks who are in there for afterwards it's going to hurt your folks let's
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say my world is real okay that i believe that these people are going to hurt your your your
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the folks that you claim to care about and also it will grant you that israel's the number one problem
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okay i don't think it's a completely crazy thing for me to say first off you have to align yourself
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with these people considering the after effects of them winning and getting more power is going
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to hurt your folks that'd be the first question i would rise and then if you're saying yes then
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but you'd have to acknowledge the fact that it's going to hurt your folks.
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I don't think you can, based off of what you described about the world,
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I don't think you can even fairly make the assertion that it's going to harm
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when you're saying you don't even know who's in control now?
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If I'm saying who's in control now, how would you find it?
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Are you saying that this power structure is going to harm if you're also saying that I don't know who's in control and I'm going to vote for people that know better than me?
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How could you make the assertion that this is bad while not knowing what's going on right now?
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Yeah. You said you don't know why there's an affordability crisis and you're not going to invest time into doing that.
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but you've made the assertion that the people I'm aligning with are going to harm.
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You cannot confidently say that this is going to be harmful
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while also admitting you don't know why there's an affordability crisis right now.
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Okay, I'm going to answer a part of this because it's a part I do understand, okay?
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I know that if the extreme right or the groopers get in power,
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that for minorities and for religious minorities like Muslims,
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They're very open about the fact that they don't like these groups.
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which in a country that should prioritize freedoms,
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based off the things that they want as a whole few.
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Is that better or worse than the power structure that we have currently?
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is that better or worse than the power structure is a white majority majority christian country
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like that power structure that you're saying is bad like nick fuentes is that worse off
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i think it's very close i think it's very close i think you can make certainly the argument i think
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either way whether you're going to be advocating for maga or you know the griper types i think
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yeah you're fucking over your people yeah for sure no not not fucking over the people i don't
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think that's a hot take though no no yeah okay right now do you agree that israel is in control
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of america i think israel influences a lot yes okay i think it has a lot of influence yeah sure
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and white majority christian somebody say it's like it could be anybody like that prioritizes
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christianity does not want to have israel involved does that create a better say there was a white
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christian leader of america and that doesn't have an allegiance to israel would that be a better
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country for poor people muslims brown people would that create a better environment for those people
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than what's happening with israel right now or that'd be worse i feel like this is what i feel
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like this is like the question that's how i'm interpreting so you can get back i feel like
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i'm living in i'm living in like jim crow segregation in america and you're like do
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you feel like it's better to be with here or the nazis under them and it's like i feel like both
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of these appearances are horrible for me as a minority and if i have an ideal choice i'm going
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to try to align myself with people who are going to fight for my rights which one is more harmful
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i would imagine probably nazi germia but okay instead of this hypothetical i'm talking about
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what's happening now like that is my point though i think the gropers and their worldview is horrible
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i think what they advocate for is horrible and i think what maga is doing is horrible so you got
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these two groups and essentially i'm saying why don't you go with the third group which actually
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benefits your people why align yourself with folks who are bad for your folks would you rather live
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under zionist control or would you rather live in an america first control
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oh oh for sure uh like i i 100 i would not support nick fuentes over whatever we got right now no
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it's not my question but it is because you said no no it actually is it doesn't have to be said
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it doesn't have to it doesn't have to be nick i'm not even saying i'm saying would you rather live
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with i'm talking about nick and the grip yes yes i would know okay but that's not my question
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or would you rather live you already said that we no no no no but you you already said that we
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live under zionist control is that not true that's what you've been telling me this whole time that
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i don't know if you live under the zionist control i don't know if you've agreed with that
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i'm simplifying the question as best i can would you rather live with zionist control
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without zionist control without okay hold on then we agree i want to live without hold on i want to
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live without foreign influence as much as possible when it comes to how politics operate in my
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country that's the answer okay so whether it's Zionist I don't want nobody you're kind of
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obfuscating what's the majority of foreign influence in America if you want to say it's
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I don't mind I agree I'm not asking what is it like what do you think it is so who's the where's
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the majority of foreign influence coming from I imagine it's going to be probably at least for
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the us probably apac and israel okay and so that's that's causing the affordability why are you acting
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like i'm afraid to say it i'm not afraid i'm not acting like you're afraid to say it but i'm trying
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to i'm trying to point out why you may i think you're getting distracted by some of the the
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the racist rhetoric you point out jim crow and that's preventing you from seeing the bigger
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picture like overall this stuff is very minor compared to the bigger issue and although again
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i have disagreements with i have disagreements with white christians but those disagreements
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are so minor compared to what's really happening and what's causing all the problems in our country
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and that's what i'm focused on getting rid of what i want to change
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i just think that right now under the zionist control that you claim you have more freedoms
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than you would have if you were under a completely right-wing authoritarian or the folks who want to
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just focus on making sure that whiteness is the major priority but you said
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yeah the main issue is not freedom you said your main issue was afforded you
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see the main problem is affordability that's the main concern happening in
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America okay I'm following your concern no no concern means that this is the
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issue that we have right now but it's only number one because our other needs
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are met for the most part if your political friends got their way we would have new number
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one priorities because i personally don't really kind of think about housing as much or affordability
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if i'm going to be jailed for whatever reason or if i'm going to be denied certain opportunities
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in terms of work because they want to make sure white folks are in power so no that's going to
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change the priorities obviously yeah i'm glad that these people don't have power because if they had
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power would be worse off for all of us, including the Muslims and Haitians. Yeah. Okay. But freedom
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is at number four, right? And affordability is number one. Sure. Yeah. Right now. Okay. Well,
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do you agree that number one is the most important? Yes. Okay. Hold on. We don't. Okay.
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And these words matter. When you say what's the priority priority doesn't mean it's more important.
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is having a house or ability to pay for things important?
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So let's say you lived underneath a government where you had no human rights.
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They could kill you and you're not a human.
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The question is, what's more important, owning a home or having government infiltration?
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having house or affordability or human rights well i don't think the two things are mutually
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exclusive because why you wouldn't have human rights if you weren't able to buy a home like
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that i think there's an overlap there these two things aren't separate if you lived in a country
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where you had no human rights okay but affordability was a problem what would be your
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priority where there's human rights and owning a home but those that question doesn't make sense
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listen to the question you have no human rights and affordability is really bad you live in this
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country there's no human rights okay the government can do whatever it wants fully authoritarian okay
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okay this is what i'm saying no human rights affordability is bad what's the priority what's
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more important once again there's an overlap there because like human rights are being able
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to own a home that's part of a human right is owning a home owning a home is a human right
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when did that having the ability to live in a house yeah like that stuff is part of human
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like having a roof over your head okay so i'm going to answer the question for you since you're
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dodging okay so the question the answer is this human rights are obviously more important you
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literally can't live or have freedoms if you don't have human rights is human rights a priority to
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me today no because we don't have an issue with human rights so i would put affordability as the
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number one priority because that's where we're struggling it does not mean that that is more
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important it's just more pressing right now that's the distinction i'm trying to make you think that
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because i prioritize this i think it's the most important thing in the world no i'm saying we have
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to focus on this because the house is on fire but after the house is not on fire i still think human
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rights are more important it's just this is the number one priority okay i mean i don't think that
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frame of the question makes sense because yeah being able you're saying that being able to live
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right you can't raise a family or live properly without a having a home like so i i don't see
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how that makes any sense wait you're not actually trying to say that having a home is like a is
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equal to like the right to freedom do you what do you mean the right to freedom well do you think
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that's like a more important human right what do you i'm asking i want to hear what do you what
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does that mean the right to freedom like to live in a country where basically owning a home is a
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human right okay let's say that exists do you think that that is right that's human right in
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america is being able to own a home that's part of human rights no that's something that we ideally
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want for people but it's not a human right so what are human rights to you human rights involve a lot
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of your most basic necessities in regards to like a home if you don't have a home you can't hold on
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that you would expect to be enshrined in the law there is no law that says you have to have a house
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there is no law that says that you have the ability to but it says you have the ability to
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own a house i mean i would agree with that but that's not something that the government has
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but the government has to ensure that you have the right to freedom that it won't be infringed on
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that's a right that the government has an obligation okay okay so these two things are
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fundamentally different there's a priority so i can think that affordability is more important
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that you should have a need to be able to afford food and all these different things i think it's
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important that we take that down but it's not important more important to me than basic human
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rights okay i'm so confused about what you think basic human rights are like what so the right to
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freedom in this case would be like the right to live your life without the government in this
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case taking that away from you so they can imprison you they could kill you at will i mean
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Right now, they're putting people in jail and deporting people who are saying things they deem anti-Semitic.
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Police in Miami are going to people's houses because they're criticizing Israel.
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The mayor of Miami, who said, I'm not welcome in Miami anymore because I enjoyed a song,
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he sent police officers to people's houses because they infringed upon speech that he didn't like.
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And that's why it's at number four. It's the problem. It's definitely a big problem for sure. Number four.
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Okay. All right. Yeah, I think it'd be beneficial to look into the affordability crisis and why we have this issue now, why there's a debt crisis, you know, student loans, mortgages, the 2008 housing crisis, the central bank system, this stuff, where the money's going and why this happens if that's your number one issue.
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that people to interest you know would look at the world economic forum saying you're not
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going to be able to own anything they want us to to rent forever the wealth gap is getting bigger
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like you could agree right that one percent holds so much of the wealth compared to the 99
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even the 0.1 you should look at who that one percent that point one percent is and why that
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is sure sure but i i just i feel like this is a lazy way of dealing with an issue that's
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multifaceted i don't believe that the reason why everything is unaffordable is jews in israel but
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it sounds like you're saying it's just but you keep on proving negatives you say i keep hearing
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did you say what is it no you say what is it but it's like okay what so you don't think that
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there's other forms of greed involved you don't think there's a tremendous amount of incompetence
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you don't think there's shortages and resources like the idea that we have a big problem when it
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comes to affordability when it comes to whether or not we have access to food on a cheap scale
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and you're just going jews it sounds lazy i'm not saying that's honestly that's not what i said
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and you're trying to figure that is what i said actually i explained the rothschild bank system
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i explained how they have connections to israel i explained how they got the land how the england
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sold this to them and you said you didn't know this and you didn't look it up i didn't say jews
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i explained specific reasons and then you said you didn't know i never said jews no you said
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you said you said zionism no i said the rothschild bank system is directly correlated to why that
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there's an economic problem right now why things are unaffordable and you said ai i specified who
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you said correlated i you you listed your reasons why you think there's an affordability crisis i
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described it i said who's in control you said ai is taking all these jobs i've described to you
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who's behind llms who owns chat gpt netanyahu and saying what he's using ai to benefit i explained
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I didn't just say Jews, I'm giving you specific people in charge and things that are happening
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But you just simplified it, and you said, it sounds simple, and you're just saying
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Yes, but everything you just said still comes back to exactly what I said, which is that
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if you look through the thread long enough, you go to Russia style, and Israel, you talk
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to this person and they talk to not yahoo and israel at the end of the day it all leads back
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to what the jews what's your point at the end of the thread what yeah what's your point so it is
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the jews you're saying you're explaining how but you're saying it's the jews not it's not all jews
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i never said that i'm saying that israel has control over this and this is where our tax
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dollars are going and there's a specific group of jews in israel who are using america as resources
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but there's so many jews who have nothing to do with this i think you're also simplifying it by
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but I would never characterize my perspective like that.
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Right, but eventually if you follow the thread,
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all the different ones, it leads back to some of the Jews.
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You're essentially saying it leads back to the Jews.
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You said your most important issue is affordability.
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it was ai and economy and i gave you two things and it went back to the wrong simple question
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you feel like as you explain it it leads back to some of the jews
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okay i would just imagine that someone who's not connected to the jews or industries that are not
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necessarily connected deeply to the jews are also probably influencing a lot of the affordability
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issue that would be they also are but i'm calling that you you said these are the two things
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affecting affordability crisis so what else is it like what else is affecting affordability
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what you're telling me to look into israel all these different things because you're saying
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this is the thing that's contributing or actually influencing or majoritarily causing the problem
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i'm like okay i hear you say that but to me it just doesn't sound very convincing because it
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feels very unique functional even though you explain the branch eventually just leads back
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some of the Jews. Now look, you know, let me concede. Let me concede. I'll concede. Let me
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concede. Let me concede. I'll concede. I don't know. And because I don't know, that's something
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I'm going to have to spend some time looking into. Okay. So I'm going to admit I'm ignorant
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and I can own that. Right. Okay. I heard what you said. I heard your theory. You know, I'm
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going to sit here and be like, I don't know. Okay. I'll concede because I don't know all
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these things. And so I'm not going to sit here and argue about the facts about the
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But I, let's see here, probably reaching the end.
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I had a different thing I actually want to talk about
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I looked into quite a lot of your IMDb related stuff.
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I think you, I actually do quite a lot of short films.
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I saw that you have worked on some productions.
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You know, IMDb got about eight to nine credits.
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I saw that you got quite a lot of fashion interest
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in terms of a clothing label, things like that.
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I know you had, like, a clothing label fashion line.
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And then last I also saw there was some modeling work as well
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So you've kind of, like, done quite a lot of extensive stuff
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from cinematography to fashion and then model and also rap song yeah just made some songs a little
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pump got you um i know it's been like your voice because you spent a lot of time
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you spent a lot of time doing arts in order to like kind of find a sense of truth but some of
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these artistic mediums are obviously just an expression of things that you find cool or
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interesting where does these play a role in influencing you so when you're doing fashion
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for example or when you're doing i'm not gonna say music because it's lyrical but let's just
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say fashion what is that you're trying to do it's the stuff that i am interested in
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i like fashion i like film i like music it's fun to do
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is there any part of it that's like political to a degree or is it mostly just
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an interest and it's not necessarily about truth it's just i think this should look nice or these
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are colors it's yeah artistic expression stuff that i like
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okay when you do a lot like the film stuff or when you're doing the youtube things
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projects my experience is i'm watching you and i feel like there's oftentimes a message
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When you do things that are not message-related,
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When you're not, like, connected to the political world,
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And when you're not doing that, what does that influence?
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Especially if you're very involved in politics.
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you know it could bleed into your personal relationships it could bleed into some of your
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hobbies it could lead to a lot of things and i'm wondering for you is there ever things that you're
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able to do that make you fully disconnect be it praying be it um the fashion related stuff yeah
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how do i disconnect from politics i mean yeah it's different i'm not fully consumed by politics
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it's one of the things i do but i play video games on stream yesterday i'm dropping a video
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on my main channel tomorrow which is like a documentary and i'm dropping a clothing line very
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soon when you meet somebody and they don't know anything about you they don't know anything about
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your politics and conversations never not political is there ever a part of you because
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obviously you have this persona a lot of people coming in with baggage or they come with preconceived
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notions about you is there ever part of you that finds that kind of liberating when you're having
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experiences are just very human on a very basic level absolutely yeah i mean this world politics
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can get very messy and there's a lot of debates and it gets angry and it gets manipulative and
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it's disingenuine i am probably an artist first and then streamer second for sure i mean my main
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focus has always been to do films and then i like streaming a lot i've been really enjoying it but
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this is something i see as uh as a hobby as uh would you
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this kind of like the dichotomy between the you know the religious faith and also like the
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artistic side because i do see actually when i was looking up all this stuff when i watched a
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few short films i saw a lot of the artistic expression through that you know hearing about
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your like love for museum and how you're like kind of proud about that that was cool
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and then i always wonder considering like the religious side of things and how it sometimes
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contrast with a lot of that kind of freedom expression and do whatever you want is there
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ever a battle inside of you about that yeah for sure i mean stuff like art is not really
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encouraged religiously and that's a that's different but i see art as a way to make
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people think differently but i i it does not correlate at all with religion
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yeah how do you cope to me they're almost like competing voices i know because i grew up in
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have quran readings on like saturdays and maybe learning the alphabet and learning how to read
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and then we would talk also about hadiths and stuff like that but i remember just learning
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about how like music was haram in a lot of situations again i'm not trying to be haram
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police don't think that um i'm actually asking about the internal battle and what that's like
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as your faith is growing and your love for the religion is growing but i also see such an artistic
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side of you that's also seeming to want to express yourself how do you how do you manage that yeah i
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think most people in the west can relate to that like most of what people do and evolve there's
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going to be if you even live in america you're going to be committing haram you're sending tax
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dollars to bombs and you know there's a place that allows for freedom free mixing is everywhere
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i like music i should probably get better at that but it's just what it's like being in america
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do you see yourself growing within the religion and staying in this country or do you feel like
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you're most likely going to end up in a much more um non-secular country there was a period where i
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thought about moving to bosnia but as of now i love america and i want to i want to remain here
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but that's something i'm still trying to figure out man i'm only 27 yeah yeah i'm in a rush on
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i'm not trying to get an answer for the future record i just um i uh i hear how outspoken you
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are i hear how artistic you are and then i also know you have critiques of some of the
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maybe more liberal aspects of a western society but i also wonder like do you feel like the kind
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of stuff that you do the kind of stuff that you make that you'd be good living in a more
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conservative part of the world do you ever think like that might be something that would hamper
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Or do you ever think that you might have to sacrifice one point for the other?
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I want to still, I do enjoy the freedoms that America provides.
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You know, that doesn't coincide exactly with my religion.
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That's stuff that doesn't, you know, it doesn't coexist with my faith.
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in regards to speaking poorly about the freedoms of the West
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but I think I also realized that I think those are just
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i think the other end of that spectrum is probably worse for someone like me
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uh in my project i like dancing i dance professionally i enjoy going out i enjoy
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just you know not giving a fuck about these things i enjoy making music i love to do production i
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like making songs and i like working through the stems and doing all that little labor and i also
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know that i grew up in a country where you know like if you were a musician and you said the wrong
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thing you go to prison and people did go to prison and yeah i wonder if
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i wonder if as you're hearing all these different voices pull at you whether it be the more liberal
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folks and the more religious voice how do you what helps what do you lean on to kind of guide you
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is it all just internal do you have specific people you speak to that you trust
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is it just going back to the quran how do you how do you figure that out what to do with my time
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not your time but the direction because obviously you have these competing forces pull at you
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right and so how do you what do you lean on to find direction
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i mean i just lean on back to the faith that's the the dean is the straight path that's what's
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most important to follow obviously i speak to different people i have different different
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friends from around the world i speak to them but obviously what's most important is the dean
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and there's just one last thing i want to show you from like a previous conversation actually
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know what let me pause do you have anything that you wanted to bring up before yeah no i mean uh
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once again i'd like uh that i appreciate you trying to have a good faith discussion and
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analyze my career and like what i'm putting out in the world fairly i think it comes from a
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an overall good place a lot of people have been unfair and you probably aren't going to be
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be incentivized to be fair about this i think a lot of your audience probably wants you to attack
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but you must see something that that they don't and i think you think i've been mischaracterized
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so you're you're approaching this from the right place hopefully i'll tell you what so so i get a
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lot of criticism because they're like oh how about you're too soft on him he's clearly a grifter or
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whatever like the reason i think i don't uh necessarily share that view it's like you have
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taken unpopular positions on things and i don't think they are to your benefit i think the haitians
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is a great example now maybe it's just due to it's politically tied to whatever it is but i actually
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appreciate the fact that you took the time to say and try to disprove that stuff now other actions
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you might take in my opinion might contradict that to some degree but i actually felt it was genuine
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and i appreciate that because i do think i own being ethiopian so i'll oftentimes defend when
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it's correct and i won't be hesitant about that and seeing you do the same thing for i appreciated
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that uh i think i've seen other instances over the years where i'm like okay and i think as far
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as the whole faith journey i know everyone clowns on you for that you know because you're an imperfect
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muslim and whatever but i also think i've seen you try to be very consistent on that so that's
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why i don't share everyone the idea that you're a flip-flopper so you know i i try not to categorize
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people too hard i've definitely done that in the past and it hasn't been fair so you know i'm gonna
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make that mistake again but i as i get older try to be a little bit more maybe i'm wrong and i just
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want to believe in people a little bit even if they're doing things that i really disagree with
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so i think that's one of these cases that's fair yeah um i think the um only i would do because we
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one part I played and with all the life changes
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you had I just wanted to play it I just wanted to ask you
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even but don't make the stuff that you believe in
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there's a discussion that we had this was a peak
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that sense and there's a lot of stuff they talk about reflection and pondering that you realize
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like okay there's there's there's a certain sense of like as you get older and this is true for most
01:10:33.880
people and you're going to go through it yourself you're going to have a better view of yourself
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almost like you're seeing yourself in the third person you know you play video games first person
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shooting all the time playing a third person shooter is completely different because now you
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got your whole body in frame you see what it looks like when you crouch i think as human beings we
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gain more of that perspective as we get older in life if we're reflective enough and what i used to
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believe at 21 i no longer believe now at 32 just because life's experiences and my own reflections
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realize like that's not true at all maybe it's because you become more sedentary as you've
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gotten older like maybe it's because it's like you're you become less of that aggressive man
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that you were at 21 like right now i'm very like i'm all about my testosterone balls manosphere
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shit and then maybe you're just 32 and you're like man let me settle down you like fucking
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sneaker we all do yeah you you like fucking you pussy yeah believe it or not that shit gets old
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no 100 no 100 and i could point you to you hundreds of players who are online right now
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who have videos of them telling you you pussy gets old in fact how about i tell you this one
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and this is this is something even andrew tate says this is something even andrew tate says
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all right sex becomes overrated after time no it's overrated now yeah it's like these
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new pussies like why do you think that is because you get used to it it becomes like
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when you eat the same food over and over again it becomes boring that's why you get new that's
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why you get new pussies so you spice it up or keep up that's what after you had enough new
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pussy there is no more new pussy there's always you understand there's always no you think that
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After you've had a few dimes, you realize dimes ain't nothing.
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I think I do something about priorities, and I talk about, like, family and other things.
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Do you feel like I was tripping that, or do you think I was, like, missing it?
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I mean, pussy does get repetitive, and it's, like, it's a worthless pursuit.
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But I still do maintain that the best pussy is new pussy.
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That's going to be the – that hunt is still – it's never going to change.
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The best pussy is not, like, how tight or, like, what type of girl.
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it's always going to be that excitement of getting that new cash and the hunt and closing the kill
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right but still it's just it's it's uh it's an empty pursuit it's uh still a wasteful it's a waste
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of time yeah yeah i mean even for me back then when we had that discussion i think a lot has
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changed for me um i'm actually less sedentary than i was back then so i had you know i'll be
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moving a little bit more uh as i get older but um let's go i um listen i think some type of way
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right now you thought some type of way before you've evolved i feel like you have gotten wiser
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in many regards and i i always commend that we strongly disagree on things that's okay um at the
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end of the day i want you to do well for your people i want you to do the right things and
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even if it's not the things i think are right you know hopefully you find your way and i also have
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to have enough humility to realize like i was wrong about some things back to tonight i'm still
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so i appreciate you coming on i appreciate you giving the chance to kind of ask you these
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questions and see where your head's at it takes it takes a real man to admit when he was wrong
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and admit growth that's uh again that goes back to malcolm x he's all about growth i think that's
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extremely important and i don't see a lot of humility or admittance i see a lot of ego from
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from other creators especially in the red pill manager's face and it it blinds them from being
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able to be honest so i think that that's uh that's an admirable characteristic about you
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you know that's probably one thing i was going to say sneak up when you said you took the god
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pill you were done with the red pill stuff and then you said but i still like agree with a lot
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of it you know when i saw you as a younger version of yourself i'm not like i'll bring back the old
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secret i think that kind of rhetoric is corny but i think one thing i loved when i was watching
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those videos and i thought they're i've been watching them freshly now is that there was
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arrogance there there was still like this kind of like puff your chest out attitude but there was
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also enough self-awareness to be like y'all might be and we're all insecure and we're all just
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projecting and the truth is i want to slap your face because i have this insecurity deep inside
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of me but i felt like when i saw you during the humanosphere area i felt like you were doing
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um i'm not uh i'm never i'm never trying to start something but the last thing i was going to leave
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on is just um when you you look back on the red pill era is there what is your i remember watching
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your biggest regret was associating with those goofballs is there anything other than that that
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you stuck back to your life i don't live with regret i think it was important i think it was
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important to to realize who's real and who's fake and i think it was important to to go through that
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because i have now realized that i could be too trusting and i assume that many people have the
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same intentions that i have but many of them most of them if not all of them don't you know just
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because that you shouldn't align with people so easily and that most people are going to be
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looking at you like vultures especially in the content creator's face like i do think that the
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red pill like the that stuff is important but so many people that have taken advantage of it the
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reason that it's lost its credit why i say red pill is dead is because the people that are at
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the forefront of the space are frauds uh they can't speak they don't know anything uh they're
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pussies and there's just no point in listening to them and they'll they'll snake you for a dollar
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yeah i think uh i think the leaders being a bunch of frauds you know i mean so many of them
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exposed it's like either paying for stuff or whatever like that you know i don't get the
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details but um beyond even just the people actually we brought this up at the beginning
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but you remember when we talked about the importance of loyalty in this space and how
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people talk about you got to be loyal to the people more than that do you ever feel like
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there's a time where you compromise your values to be loyal to people or you might have bite your
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tongue in order to maintain a friendship probably i can't think of uh specific incidents at the top
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of my head but sure yeah remember when you were defending fresh and you went to war with moist
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critical and now that dude's on his podcast trying to put a hit on you that's crazy bro i'm not gonna
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bro that's crazy i mean you had you were running around with a gun like
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the world hating you and i was like damn and that same dude is like
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it was sicko from the club he's like fuck you bro that's crazy no yeah yeah yeah yeah no
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not uh abba did uh i think you did one you probably did warn me about that for sure
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no yeah i'm actually not even trying to take a victory lap that's not important i just think
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like no i was definitely i was definitely vindicated on that shit i ain't gonna lie
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yeah bro and the voice critical thing that was literally one of my i gotta ask you question
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because i remember moist moist did a video about fresh thing he got a thousand dollars
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and you're like yo don't ever talk about you know he got a thousand dollars
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uh that's all good i wouldn't ask you to do that i just with you a little bit but you know
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you know damn well when you was defending him i'm like yeah i mean bro i mean i'm a ride or die
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homie man i'm uh but you can't lie to the people though you can't lie to the people remember you
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told me you know you can't do that no i mean there's there's a valid point there for sure
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but you gotta defend him on something that's true i'll just with you a little bit that was funny
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though when you that chat that was the gotcha moment that was the gotcha moment that you guys
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are waiting for the whole time no you did no no no no that was the gotcha it's because my room was
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in the chat just yapping and i just thought a lot of fresh on that pod with fucking gary be like
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sneaker i'm gonna make sure something happens and you're gonna feel the pain and i was like damn
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for 200 viewers you put a threat on this nigga but he defended you against voice critical that's
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crazy yeah that was on the the fresh and fit channel yeah yeah let me just take it down so
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you know shout out to them for doing that but listen bro yeah um i know we have some strong
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disagreements and honestly if you feel like i did something actually you know what let me ask
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before i leave do you feel like i did something wrong do you feel like i did you dirty any type
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i think you you came off genuine and some people in the chat are saying it's bad faith i don't
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think so i think this is your your worldview and it's good to have discussions like that
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yeah bro i truly love my ancient people i actually deeply care for them and i know you do so like
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that part got heated for that reason because i really think you do so that's where that came
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from but actually i have real love no i learned the language so you can imagine how much appreciation
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i got for my haitians for my zoos okay so that's something that we're always going to share and
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let's i'm wishing you the best and i hope that uh yeah i hope uh i thought it's got something from
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best to you too abba let's uh best of luck on your trip and uh safe travels back home
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thank you man have a good night bro all right dang god dang
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fine we're getting to the content now how long was that conversation