02:09:58.820he said he said yo i sent you a link on discord
02:10:03.260discord i sent you a link to zoom on discord oh you said a link to okay because i sent you a
02:10:12.020link too no you didn't i did where look at your text messages i message okay how would i open up
02:10:19.040a zoom link from my ims like skip the steps yeah i know or you can just skip that and then click
02:10:26.400the link that i sent you on discord because it's already on your pc all right let me let me click
02:10:31.480let me see here all right let me uh let me get off my zoom gun give me one second all right
02:10:41.240i want to hear your your venezuela position
02:10:45.880i did a video on it earlier uh yesterday yeah they were telling me so i i wanted to talk to you
02:10:52.360all right hold on i'm clicking your thing right now to join
02:10:54.680is your mic on yeah you should be able to hear me yeah can you hear me sounds good i can hear you
02:11:02.380mine's too loud or something it's not weird no no you're fine you're fine i'll i could just turn
02:11:08.160it down on my own headphones all right uh so how you doing i want to hear your take on this
02:11:15.120invasion of venezuela kidnapping president maduro or the president of venezuela they say
02:11:19.660dictator are you pro-war anti-war what's your position because most of the right they're very
02:11:25.000happy about this and it's surprising to me yeah um well so here's the thing right i don't really
02:11:32.160i'm looking at like okay as far as my personal position on it i'm indifferent to it right like
02:11:38.220i don't i don't like wars i don't like conflict um but what i will say is is that first we got
02:11:45.200to talk about because i did a whole thing on this right so and i covered it objectively what they
02:11:49.820tell people or what they told what the government or the uh the media is being told or telling us
02:11:55.020rather is that we are here to liberate the venezuelan people we're here to get rid of a
02:12:01.140violent dictator uh you know this is the greatest military operation ever blah blah blah but they're
02:12:06.780not really going into like the economic reasons why we're doing what we're doing and the real
02:12:11.280reason that we went in there and did what we did now people say oh it's for oil but it goes deeper
02:12:16.500than just for oil it's also because the petrodollar is pretty much like dead okay it's like it's get
02:12:23.860it's on life support right last year and i was like one of the first only people that reported
02:12:28.240on this saudi arabia chose to not renew the deal that they had done with us back from the 70s where
02:12:34.080we uh we would use the petrodollar to to back our dollar right essentially so we got off the gold
02:12:40.880standard and we use the petrodollar as one of the main reasons to back our dollar which makes us
02:12:44.720reserve currency because everyone has to do their deals in oil when they deal with the saudi royal
02:12:48.260family in dollars well now they're accepting other forms of currency to include bricks countries
02:12:55.020so they haven't renewed that agreement that we struck with them in the 1970s right well that's
02:13:00.120a big problem for for us because our dollar is pretty much backed by that it's the main reason
02:13:05.080why we're able to print all this currency with no consequence right yeah we get some inflation but
02:13:10.340we're the reserve currency so it gives us a lot of uh it gives us a lot of leverage and this is
02:13:14.180why america's been able to be so prosperous for so long so so we the petrol dollar is on life
02:13:19.740support then also another important thing to understand is that we're on a petrol dollar
02:13:25.880standard yes it's it's yeah it's a big reason why we why we why our dollar is so strong is because
02:13:31.760the petrol dollar yeah so the fed relies upon oil that's a component to it yes and and what i'm
02:13:37.800saying is saudi arabia last year chose to not renew and it didn't hit the news cycle at all
02:13:43.340like i was one of the only people that talked about on twitter and mentioned it because
02:13:46.520i knew right then and there and i talked i talked about this first in 2023 and then i talked about
02:13:50.860it in 2024 but no one cared because it was an election year so it's been it's been ever since
02:13:54.940the gold standard was removed and what was it the 70s has been on the petries nixon nixon nixon
02:14:00.180struck a deal with saudi arabia to um to basically make them do all their oil sales in u.s dollars
02:14:06.520And that forces other countries to keep U.S. dollars to buy oil.
02:14:11.040But you're not saying that the U.S. dollar is based on petrol completely because they say that the Fed is based on nothing and they can print more money.
02:14:18.560How does the petrol dollar differ from the Fed?
02:14:22.160no well what i'm saying is is that one of the reasons why us printing money you know ridiculously
02:14:32.220and we don't deal with consequences for it is because there's a need for our dollars
02:14:36.260all across the world to purchase oil does that make sense yes yeah okay fair so and i will get
02:14:44.460too complicated more complicated than that but like that was a big deal that we had that made
02:14:47.520our currency very strong, right? Last year, Saudi Arabia decided to not honor that deal anymore,
02:14:54.080right? Where now they're not doing all their transactions and dollars like they used to do.
02:14:58.440That obviously is going to weaken our dollar to a degree. Now, the other problem here,
02:15:03.980and this happened last year, no one reported on it, right? The other problem is that we have
02:15:07.900petroleum reserves. Of these petroleum reserves, we've been using it the past couple of years
02:15:12.740under the Biden administration and the Trump administration, and we're running low with
02:15:16.840these petroleum reserves. These petroleum reserves are supposed to only be used in times of war
02:15:20.640or emergencies, but we know how politicians are. They want votes. They don't want to have
02:15:24.280low approval ratings, et cetera. So they started to slowly release these barrels of oil into the
02:15:30.880market to keep gas prices stable. Remember when everyone was complaining about milk and eggs and
02:15:35.420everything else like that being too expensive? They were releasing this oil from our reserves
02:15:39.040the whole time. So we got two things against us that are going bad. We got the petrodollar week
02:15:44.820and we're using our reserves the third thing which was the red line which is why we actually invaded
02:15:49.340which i haven't seen a lot of people talk about is venezuela was gearing up to start accepting
02:15:54.440bricks currency it led by the yuan with the chinese right which is what they were doing
02:15:59.280that day the same day my door was meeting with the chinese in order to deal oil and yuan it could
02:16:04.400have been it could have been anything but we do know that the chinese absolutely and and venezuela
02:16:09.400is going to basically become a bricks country and the problem with that is that it's on our hemisphere
02:16:13.420And by being a BRICS country, that would challenge our hegemon as the reserve currency.
02:16:19.300And it would hurt our position with our dollar.
02:16:22.220Anytime a dictator or anybody threatens our dollar, just like they did with Gaddafi, they kill him.
02:16:27.420So what happened with Maduro was reserves are low, petrodollar and life support.
02:16:32.760He wants to go ahead and start accepting a BRICS currency instead of U.S. dollars for the oil.
02:16:36.700So the U.S. is like, OK, Venezuela has the highest reserves.
02:23:38.160They basically, they barely mentioned cocaine.
02:23:40.100They essentially said it's about the oil.
02:23:42.680We want oil and we're going to run Venezuela.
02:23:45.500Yeah, they did, but they didn't go further and say why they want the oil.
02:23:49.380I think people know that it's about the oil, but no one knows about us losing the petrol dollar being weak right now.
02:23:57.940No one knows really or talks too much about the petroleum reserves.
02:24:00.440These are the real reasons why, right?
02:24:02.340Do you think that it's a play to potentially invade Iran because they're saying if we were to invade, the reason that they're so angry that the EU and other countries are saying don't invade Iran, don't bomb is because they can close the Strait of Hormuz and that they provide oil for most of Europe.
02:24:19.380And so it's going to destroy the world economy. Right. Iran's play right now is if you attack us, we're going to cut off our oil supply.
02:24:25.480And so to supplement that chess move, we're going to get an oil reserve in Venezuela.
02:24:30.100yes i'm glad you brought that up i talked about that yesterday too so the other reason why this
02:24:36.200is important especially strategically right now is we know that a war with israel and iran is
02:24:41.860iran is absolutely going to be imminent right so the like you said with the strait of ramos
02:24:46.500something like 30 of the world's oil goes through that little strait right there and iran could
02:24:50.560obviously shut it down so by having this oil or access to this oil in venezuela uh that would
02:24:55.860mitigate the damage that might potentially come from there because i think with this next war
02:24:59.180between israel and iran is one one of them is going to have to someone's not going to walk
02:25:03.540away from it one of those countries is going to have to take an l and be and be done permanently
02:25:07.200so um the united states and israel knowing that this is going to probably be the last war
02:25:12.540uh that's another reason why i think also strategically speaking they need to secure
02:25:17.920this oil as well and they had to use the law enforcement operation to do it if you notice
02:25:21.680from the press conference rubio and the commander kept saying we went ahead and grabbed the indicted
02:25:26.340individuals as they were grabbed we had them uh read their miranda rights they had to do all this
02:25:31.280and make a law enforcement operation to justify spending billions of dollars on the operation
02:25:35.340and if you read the 25 page indictment i read it there was no mention of fentanyl that was kind of
02:25:39.560a conspiracy your ai cam is crazy there was no mention of fentanyl it was just cocaine and
02:25:43.700machine guns that's it so if this is coke and machine guns then all of latin america well the
02:25:49.660other thing too also you know just being honest here um venezuela is is not like uh if you want
02:25:55.000to talk about drug trafficking and labeling people narco terrorists or whatever like they're like
02:25:59.120fifth on the list bro like there's way more dangerous drug trafficking organizations uh than
02:26:04.520the guys based in venezuela but that was a strategic re that the re trump did that for
02:26:10.780a strategic purpose to justify using the intel community and the military to go get this guy
02:26:16.460picked up because mexico is actually the biggest you know drug threat if we want to talk about
02:26:21.020drugs strictly something like 50 to 60 of the u.s of the united states drugs coming through the
02:26:25.160southwest border maritime smuggling is no longer a viable way to drug traffic it's not 1980 anymore
02:26:30.360yeah it's they're pretty transparent about it you could tell uh hegseth rubio trump they don't care
02:26:35.840about the coke or anything else about maduro they care about the dictator they're like oh
02:26:39.200all the trump retards they're like the venezuelans are happy do you think that they care about the
02:26:43.960happiness of venezuelans it's that's not important whatsoever they don't and the other thing also is
02:26:50.240like yeah we know it's for the oil but no one is talking about why no one's talking about the
02:26:54.640saudis not uh you know honoring the petro dollar deal that we struck in the 70s no one's talking
02:26:58.140about our petroleum reserves being extremely low what is the saudi connection to saudi was the
02:27:03.320country who started bricks no so back in the 1970s nixon struck a deal with the royal family
02:27:11.160and ended the gold standard and now we needed to back our dollars to something else so what we did
02:27:16.400was we basically told the family we will protect you guys because this these you you know this
02:27:22.300because you know you understand this part of the world um the Muslim world tends to be a little
02:27:26.220volatile sometimes most of these countries are run by monarchies uh you know dictatorships etc
02:27:31.480so the biggest fear of any Arab ruler is always being overthrown right so what the U.S. government
02:27:38.560told them was we will protect you and ensure that you guys stay in power but you need to do all your
02:27:43.760oil transactions in u.s dollars cool so we give them protection they do their deals in u.s dollars
02:27:50.520this props up our dollar this keeps our dollar strong it's like extortion yeah yeah it's the
02:27:55.400same extortion that's exactly what it is and then and then last year and this is why it's so big
02:28:00.180in june of 2024 saudi arabia said we are not going to do all our deals in u.s dollars anymore
02:28:05.640and i knew right then and there this is going to lead to problems so us invading venezuela the way
02:28:10.620that we did that was inevitable as soon as the petrol dollar started to get weaker and then you
02:28:15.680add on to that that the petroleum reserves are low right it was inevitable but what are the reasons
02:28:22.240what are the reasons yeah because they don't want to be honest about the operation they need to
02:28:25.620morally justify it with cocaine and machine guns and communism so why is the petrol dollar so low
02:28:31.360right now it's the lack of oil reserves or is there another reason bricks is rising up in power
02:28:35.500and the saudis are playing both sides another thing too i'll tell you with the saudis so the
02:28:39.760saudis though they've worked with us for a very long time they understand that we are more loyal
02:28:43.400to israel than we are to them so uh a couple actually the day before i think it was the day
02:28:47.340before charlie kirk got assassinated you remember when uh the israelis bombed qatar yes so our
02:28:53.300military base in qatar no they bombed they bombed a uh location where they thought hamas leaders
02:28:58.560were going to meet right which is our ally qatar is our ally and we did not retaliate precisely
02:29:02.220so so they bombed them right they bombed them in qatar and that was just that was very embarrassing
02:29:07.860for us because we had just struck a deal with them when we sold them a bunch of military equipment
02:29:11.380blah blah they had done a trade deal with us so that made us look really bad so trump was pissed
02:29:15.680off but the israelis you know how they do they just do whatever they want that scared the middle
02:29:19.320east that scared these gulf states because they understand that our safety is contingent upon the
02:29:24.580united states if these guys can't take care of these israelis our safety is at risk so what
02:29:28.220did saudi arabia do they quietly went and struck a deal with pakistan where if saudi arabia is
02:29:33.060attacked it's like an attack on pakistan and pakistan's a nuclear power so this is what
02:29:37.740When people get mad at me and say, oh, all you care about is Israel, blah, blah, blah.
02:29:40.700Bro, Israel creates so many problems for us that you might not even notice
02:29:43.320because now we pushed Saudi Arabia closer to the Pakistanis and in that BRICS sphere.
02:40:38.040And you could even make the argument, right, like when it comes to Russia, for example, invading Ukraine,
02:40:45.000that he had been talking about and telling NATO not to expand, right, and they kept expanding, right?
02:40:51.440that's that's like a like a national security risk for them um when it comes to maduro though
02:40:56.340he might have not posed the same military threat he was posing a great economic threat right which
02:41:00.400then again you could say oh monroe doctrine it's our hemisphere you know we're gonna do what we
02:41:04.180need to do um i don't i think they could have settled this diplomatically i think diplomacy
02:41:09.300would have been a better way to do things versus just invading uh maduro did say he wanted to talk
02:41:14.820to you talk to uh he would be willing to sit down and talk with trump but i think the reality is um
02:41:19.960maduro probably wanted to sell his oil at a certain price at a market price and trump said
02:41:24.380fuck that why am i going to pay you this when i can just get you out of there you're indicted in
02:41:28.140my country anyway and we can get it for damn near free that's how he looked at it someone in the
02:41:33.380super chat said all trump did was just reinstall payment contracts he terminated terminated in
02:41:37.7802025 venezuela gives u.s 50 billion uh barrels of oil to pay off its debt what was the payment
02:41:44.400contract he terminated in 25 i didn't hear about that okay maybe i don't know that's something that
02:41:49.900i'm not familiar with i mean he could be he could be right i just i just i'm just not familiar with
02:41:53.960that but and you're sure we're gonna see short-term benefits you don't think that there's
02:41:57.180gonna be conflict that there's gonna be a a coup you don't think venezuelans are gonna be fighting
02:42:02.080backward enough to deploy troops and there's gonna be a messy you don't think there's gonna
02:42:05.280be messy warfare oh yeah i mean i'm sure yeah i'm sure i mean i'm sure there's gonna be a power
02:42:08.940vacuum event as well to some degree and that's gonna create problems but i'm saying like for
02:42:11.860the united states we will enjoy some level of prosperity in the short term but in the long
02:42:16.880term i think we've really hurt ourselves especially with international community because
02:42:20.000a lot of americans have to accept the fact that we live in a multi-polar world this isn't post
02:42:24.420world war ii where we were like the only people with the nuclear bomb or the or you know like
02:42:28.500other countries have nuclear weapons other countries have very capable capable militaries
02:42:32.280and intelligence services so you know we are we we are not the pinnacle of power to the same degree
02:42:39.240that we were after world war ii like a lot of these countries have closed the gap to us right
02:42:44.280so um i i i don't like that we um i think we could have solved this in another manner i think
02:42:52.120we could have figured out how to deal with this a bit more amicably than the way that we did but
02:42:57.060you know you look at it with the monroe doctrine uh maduro's hard-headed blah blah blah but i
02:43:02.300absolutely think that we've forfeited our moral high ground and we can't tell anybody's shit
02:43:06.220anymore honestly what about all these zionists and people like netanyahu they're very excited
02:43:11.000about what happened. They're very happy publicly. How much involvement do they have in this regime
02:43:15.760change? I have no doubt in my mind that Israel definitely played a role. We know that Maduro
02:43:21.380did not recognize the state of Israel as a sovereign nation. We know that he was very
02:43:25.640sensitive to the Palestinians' plight. He banned usury, right? So he was not a fan of Israel
02:43:33.200whatsoever. And the United States having access to this oil is huge for them because our oil is
02:43:39.240basically their oil you know our resources are their resources so you know and they're they're
02:43:43.360gearing up to fight with iran so like they need all the resources they can get so this is a huge
02:43:46.540w for them because we've removed one of the trump cards that iran had which is what we discussed
02:43:51.200with the straight of her moves right or at least it's not going to be as um damaging to our economies
02:43:57.540because we got our uh we got venezuela under control now so if they do shut down the straight
02:44:03.280her moves it's gonna suck but it's not gonna affect us as badly right we have we have a
02:44:08.980response to that major chess move that was blocking the now there's a there's a an opening
02:44:16.040to attack iran yep yep basically the because the thing is this when when israel attacks iran
02:44:24.020they're gonna hit israel back super hard right what we're basically doing is trying to mitigate
02:44:28.320the damage uh from when they do hit us back or hit them back so why are all the right-wing people
02:44:34.340that were anti-war now like why is everybody so excited about this um probably lack of awareness
02:44:41.440on why we actually did it they probably don't know about the petroleum reserves i haven't seen any of
02:44:45.040them talk about the petroleum reserves the petrol dollar being on life support i haven't seen any
02:44:48.420of these guys talk about any of that stuff and and that's the thing too with like a lot of these guys
02:44:51.860like dude i hate to like these guys are like daily wire and like a lot of these like you know
02:44:57.360conservative creators they don't really talk foreign policy like that or they don't have
02:45:00.380foreign policy understood they only care about like culture war domestic issues like malice
02:45:05.340doesn't know anything i think that's why he's avoiding i mean me too like i'm asking and i'm
02:45:09.020clarifying questions here that people are like oh my god how'd you not know that some of this i'm
02:45:12.680just i'm making sure that i have this ready because i want bro it's a lot i don't like you
02:45:16.620like foreign policy and geopolitical affairs is completely different than dealing with like
02:45:21.860american politics it's like its own animal like dealing with like uh talking about this stuff and
02:45:26.340i haven't seen and the crazy thing is is like i haven't seen any of like the big right-wing
02:45:31.280political commentators mention the reserves the death of petrodollar i don't know if you said
02:45:36.020this already but why why is the petrodollar on life support did you already because yeah so the
02:45:42.200reason why is because the saudis are not doing all of their transactions in u.s dollars anymore
02:45:48.800for their oil they're using they're using the chinese they're using the one okay they're using
02:45:52.900why did the saudis change they they're realizing that we're now in a multi-polar world
02:45:59.140they're they're waking up and realizing like there's other superpowers besides the united
02:46:03.220states okay that's why they went to pakistan for their protection
02:46:07.840they still they still have a deal with us but like they also have a backup with pakistan
02:46:14.060who saudi arabia okay and all right um yeah it's a lot bro i like you know i don't mind uh like
02:46:25.780explaining it again i think do you think it's a simple no i'm just thinking about the arguments
02:46:30.460from the other side from the trad cons who are super excited they're all anti-war and like they
02:46:33.520everyone was shitting on the iraq war and they would make the same mistake and it just seems
02:46:35.940like the same pattern do you think that this ignited some sort of nationalism that's been
02:46:39.480missing from the white identity crowd from the white christians they've been lacking some sort
02:46:43.840of like something to get them riled up they see something like this the helicopters trump yeah
02:46:47.580we could do what we want do you think that their nationalism is blinding them from the truth
02:46:52.680yeah you can make that argument yeah um you know like because okay the military operation the way
02:47:00.800they did it outside of your personal opinions with whether it was good or bad was fantastic
02:47:04.720they got in within a few hours no casualties it's like you know i mean it wasn't like 20 30
02:47:10.180cubans died and they're saying okay that was maduro's security support i'm speaking strictly
02:47:14.260from i'm speaking strictly from a military analyst analysis perspective with no bias
02:47:19.560if you're gonna that was probably one of the best done military operations seamlessly no casualties
02:47:25.840on your end casualties on the other end it's nothing it can't go better than that from a
02:47:30.120military analysis standpoint a lot of people are fixated on that and they're not focusing on what's
02:47:35.400gonna come after this it's a very short-sighted uh worldview like yeah cool we we we got in there
02:47:41.500we got them out in three hours america cool but we are gonna pay for this later make no mistake
02:47:46.740about it we are gonna pay for this and like this is where people need to be a little bit higher
02:47:50.160iq and understand that um intervention always comes with some type of reaction and in today's
02:47:56.640day and age where we live in a multi-polar world there are other countries that can make us eat it
02:48:01.260and feel pain for that right there's never been a regime change that went without consequences
02:48:07.500major consequences and zero almost zero benefit precisely and we absolutely pushed countries
02:48:13.340towards bricks with this operation no doubt in my mind we we definitely pushed and our influence is
02:48:20.140going to wane if it is going to wane and that's that's one of the most important things you know
02:48:24.040you don't have to just have military power and strength you also have to have to have the ability
02:48:27.500of influence and uh i think we did hurt our credibility here and i don't think people are
02:48:31.620really paying attention to how this can hurt us in the future our adversaries are going to use
02:48:35.680us to their advantage every single time what do you think venezuela is going to do now
02:48:39.400uh i don't know dude because the the trump administration doesn't even know what the
02:48:46.780fuck's good like they didn't even give a plan on what's yeah we're gonna run it okay how are you
02:48:49.780gonna run it uh you know it's like they did the operation you know it looks cool and it's like
02:48:55.240no one is going to explain how the fuck you guys are going to clean up or make any of this like
02:48:58.560i'm i'm lost here so you know there's obviously going to be a power vacuum i'm sure there's going
02:49:02.940to be some you know uh riots and crazy stuff going on um but we'll see i i really um i really
02:49:09.840don't know to be honest with you bro what's gonna happen what do you think matt walsh is going to
02:49:13.360argue um he's gonna argue more than likely from the perspective of what's that monroe doctrine
02:49:21.220he's absolutely going to argue the monroe doctrine yep he's going to argue that he's also going to
02:49:25.940argue that um you know might is right he's going to say uh this guy was a dictator his people were
02:49:31.960being oppressed we we you know we saved them and we get access to the to the resources we're going
02:49:36.700to you know be a better custodian of those resources we'll be able to enrich venezuela
02:49:41.400they're in our backyard blah blah blah um he's gonna he's gonna focus on the on the on the short
02:49:46.980term benefits is what he's going to probably more than likely do okay but also with the monroe
02:49:53.240doctrine i also think it's important because if you look up there's a two-part with the monroe
02:49:58.080doctrine so you can go ahead and use this against them um so it says here it was a cornerstone u.s
02:50:04.620foreign policy warning uh european powers against further colonization or interference in america's
02:50:08.580a certain western hemisphere was the u.s uh sphere of influence in exchange for u.s neutrality
02:50:13.620in european conflicts okay so this is how you get them if he mentions the monroe doctrine
02:50:20.400the monroe doctrine is uh is all the monroe doctrine applies if we don't influence european
02:50:28.260affairs well what are we doing in fucking ukraine what are we doing in nato right so uh so you can
02:50:35.000use that against them if you bring that up the monroe doctrine is contingent upon us dealing in
02:50:39.280our hemisphere but we all know that's not true we're all over the fucking world we have more
02:50:43.000military base than anyone else so you can use that argument to counter when he brings up yeah
02:50:47.280i think that that's why nick is so happy about what happened in venezuela because you know if
02:50:53.000this was iran if there's a syria this libya this iraq he's going to be extremely against it but
02:50:57.180because it's the western hemisphere it seems like there's this is igniting this nationalistic
02:51:01.840he's like tweeting the american flag he's super happy because it follows a monroe doctrine is
02:51:06.640is that the only separation between something like this in libya syria iraq
02:51:10.060it's going to be one of their main justifications is the monroe doctrine yeah that's going to be
02:51:14.920one of their main justifications is like hey it's our hemisphere it's our side of the it's
02:51:18.480our side of the world we got to secure our side of the world oh right right it's just uh you already
02:51:23.340said this but so the monroe doctrine it specifies in exchange for u.s neutrality european conflicts
02:51:27.320the ukraine alliance that defeats that argument yep nato the fact that we have nato the fact that
02:51:34.680we're interfering in ukraine we're all we're all over asia right so you can defeat the monroe
02:51:39.840doctrine right there and be like well you know the monroe doctrine is contingent upon us not
02:51:43.340interfering in european affairs and we've been doing that since world war ii you know what i
02:51:49.000mean and people forget that the monroe doctrine was a very old um doctrine from like the 1800s
02:51:54.400right to keep to keep the brits out of out of uh out of the u.s so you can use that to your
02:52:00.580advantage but no i think a lot of the arguments he's going to present dude are going to be um
02:52:04.580short-sighted arguments and then what you can do is like look i think if you focus on the long-term
02:52:11.080consequences because let go ahead and concede on the short-term shit yeah fine yeah we we yeah
02:52:15.840america it's putting a band-aid band-aid on a on a wound you know it's like putting a piece of gum
02:52:21.600on a leaky pipe it solves a problem yeah short term no knowing knowing that there's a fucking
02:52:26.320like a huge push of water coming in like two years or three years or whatever like we might
02:52:30.780it like that band-aid will work for now but at some point that pipe is going to get more water
02:52:35.820and it's going to fucking blow that band-aid off pause okay so that's i would focus on the future
02:52:40.460and how this is going to hurt our credibility into in the international community i'll focus on that
02:52:45.020thanks a lot my i appreciate it i'm going to call uh no worries daniel hooky get your um
02:52:50.060yeah i'm gonna talk to you this is a good uh information when are you all gonna do this
02:52:54.540so matt walsh well maybe we can clip farm this matt walsh let's do this debate get about ben
02:52:59.460shapiro to take your leash off stop whipping you i mean you work all the time you've been a good
02:53:04.380boy for a while let's get this debate done you see what he keeps saying keeps getting a low iq
02:53:08.720haitian yeah you guys go at it bro i got so tired of it i even commented i said bro just debate him
02:53:13.620already damn i said it last time timeline i said it last time and i'll say it again let's just
02:53:17.460debate bro like but he's always i don't tweet at him he tweets at me he calls me brown he basically
02:53:21.800is trying to call me the hard r with the suppressor on it you know he's expecting me to take like the
02:53:26.980leftists like oh my god you're racist and then i know what he's gonna say he's gonna be like white
02:53:31.280people are tired of being called racist i don't care about being called the somali iq haitian
02:53:35.660third worldist communist jihadist it doesn't affect me i am putting america first i want the
02:53:39.680best for this country i saw what happened for the past 30 years i know that this is the same playbook
02:53:44.780regime change doesn't work all right and yes people are getting excited about bombs but this
02:53:48.880doesn't benefit our country so matt walsh take your leash off ask your boss and let's get this
02:53:52.700done it doesn't need to be hostile we don't need to do a panel for all people let's just have a
02:53:55.860conversation about this. U.S. is all about free speech, democracy, the exchange of ideas. Let's
02:54:00.280get this done, man. Stop tweeting at me. You're yapping all the time. Yeah, I would like I think
02:54:05.640if you focus on the long term detriments, I think that's the strongest argument. And then we already
02:54:12.780talked about the Monroe Doctrine. Talk with Nick, too, man. You know, talking to people that have a
02:54:16.880different view would would would help you as well. So, yeah. Also, do you see the crowd or
02:54:21.540stepped in crowder stepped in and he said that he would do the the debate if matt walsh doesn't
02:54:25.740want to do it and i'm not against it obviously i want to get it done on venezuela yeah okay is he
02:54:30.460i saw you spoke to him i'm wondering if is he zile he's uh he's like kind of indifferent like
02:54:37.120he like he looks at it like uh you know i think he's more concerned with um with islam than uh
02:54:45.180yeah i saw israel yeah which i you know i've always said that i think uh you know i think
02:54:50.380the biggest national security threat is zionism it's not it's not islam right like come on like
02:54:54.460realistically speaking right but um but you know how is it how does he even claim that islam is a
02:54:59.340national security threat in america where you know they always say like um you know it's going to
02:55:05.220take over and it's not compatible with a western democracy and all this other stuff but it's like
02:55:09.100dude like anytime people make the argument about um you know islam being a detriment to united
02:55:13.960states or the biggest national security threat i always say it's like dude like they don't run
02:55:18.780our foreign policy they're not they're not all over dc i mean it's not even the immigration
02:55:22.660lobbying the immigration is hardly even muslim it's mostly indian and it's mostly mexican
02:55:27.180also a second like they're all over the white house and three if he's gonna say that america's
02:55:34.000a christian nation america's a christian nation right and he's gonna side with what trump's doing
02:55:37.460they forfeit any moral argument what they did isn't christian they did it just to steal they
02:55:42.500killed a lot of people in the process and they kidnapped him just because they think that they're
02:55:46.140entitled to it because it exists and because they can take it over there's nothing christian about
02:55:49.620that yeah no it's uh is that should i make that argument or no you could um you could if you want
02:55:58.060to challenge them on their on their theology well i always say i always say that if he says like
02:56:03.000islam is a threat and everything and i'll just say if he says like america's a christian nation
02:56:07.220then i'm gonna be like okay if it's a christian nation then stealing and murdering and kidnapping
02:56:10.020is the least christian thing you can do yeah and i would also like i would also tell him like uh
02:56:16.000Well, I don't know if you guys are going to have the debate on YouTube, but I'll say Judaism is far more pernicious than Islam is back on YouTube.
02:56:23.000I want to keep it. OK, so let's be like Hassan and say, Israeli and let's put it.
02:56:29.520Let's put a suppressor on it. OK, OK, OK. Yeah. But I would make that argument if they try to tell you.
02:56:34.540Well, actually, you know what? That just proves our point. The fact that you can't say it and you can criticize Islam all you want.
02:56:40.920and then you get rumble deals you go to the white house like you see a loomer can go in the white
02:56:46.340house and say exactly the same things about islam that she accuses bro that actually the fact that
02:56:50.360you said that like that's think about that that was like a natural reaction oh we can't say that
02:56:54.060that right there proves our point right and you can say whatever you say about muslim even rumble
02:56:58.700they're doing ads that say radical jihadists are invading america like imagine if you said that
02:57:02.560about you you can attack christianity and you can attack islam you could those two religions you
02:57:06.680attack but you attack the other one cooked you know right so yeah man no uh definitely uh do you
02:57:14.380think that he actually believes in the muslim hate or do is is that a paid is that you know
02:57:19.600it's crowder is that legitimate you know what dude i've noticed ever since the gaza ceasefire
02:57:25.660i've seen an enormous uptick in um people being super anti-islam and i think the reason for that
03:14:03.600It has this kind of universalist aspiration to spread. Judaism also is another example of this. Hinduism is another example of this. And Islam is another example of this. So all these religions or ideologies have engaged in like expanding their sphere of influence. And this is this is conquest. And Islam is no different than that.
03:14:22.380But there's different methodologies or different methods of actually implementing conquest. And if we want to just focus on like liberal, like modern liberal, secular conquest that we see from the United States, or we see from like before that the British Empire or the French Empire, or even the Russian Empire, would have adopted liberalism by that point after the Enlightenment, they implement certain strategies.
03:14:49.100So a strategy of genocide, for example, where according to their ideology, like a liberal secular ideology, like you have a utilitarian calculus, like the means justify or the ends justify the means.
03:15:03.160So if you have to kill a million people in order to get democracy and to get freedom and democracy and women's rights, that's worth it.
03:15:10.820It's worth actually wiping out a million people in order to do that.
03:15:14.480And this is what the French did, for example, in Algeria.
03:15:17.440The French wanted to establish liberal democracy, European style liberal democracy in Algeria in the 19th century.
03:15:26.320And they were perfectly fine, like their liberal thinkers like Alexis de Tocqueville was perfectly fine with mass murdering, mass killing Algerians for the purpose of that higher end, like that utopic vision of a liberal secular utopia.
03:15:42.040so that's like that's very different than islam islam doesn't allow mass killing or genocide like
03:15:48.180there is inherent worth to life even non-muslim life has an inherent worth and you can't just go
03:15:54.160and exterminate a people to take their land that's one major difference another major difference is
03:16:00.620that when you see uh islamic conquest obviously islam spread from the arabian peninsula the
03:16:07.560Sahaba, like the companions of the Prophet ï·º, spread Islam to, for example, Iraq, to Persia,
03:16:14.640to the Levant, like modern-day Palestine and Syria, Lebanon, and then to Egypt, for example.
03:16:21.600And then within like 100 years after the Prophet ï·º passed away, you had all these expanded
03:16:27.000territory, part of the new Islamic empire. But what you saw is not this kind of situation that
03:16:33.060we see today, where the West will just go to Venezuela and take the oil or take the resources
03:16:39.440and impoverish the people and oppress the people and subjugate the people who survived their
03:16:44.940whatever genocidal aims or sanctions that have been placed on them. When Muslims took over,
03:16:49.940those regions were enriched, like those regions became the centers of Islamic empire. So like
03:16:57.880Baghdad, for example, became a capital. Egypt and Cairo specifically became a cultural
03:17:05.060capital for Islam. Within Iran, like different, Iran as a whole became such an important part
03:17:13.140of the Islamic empire. Whereas when Europe and America do their genocides and their conquests,
03:17:20.600they leave like hell holes in their wake. They leave a people who have been like wiped out,
03:17:25.400decimated like look at the native americans for example look at the aboriginals in australia look
03:17:30.200at um the congolese for uh in africa they are decimated they are their resources are stripped
03:17:37.400and it's all shipped back to europe whereas when islam conquers it enriches uh those areas and
03:17:44.040those those become cultural capitals and very prosperous centers of the islamic empire that's
03:17:51.320a big difference what do you think about nick's response i'm sure nick's has said positive things
03:17:56.380about you and you know after the the keith woods debate it was like my last stream on
03:18:01.680rumble i remember he said positive things about your debate if i'm not mistaken what do you think
03:18:06.400about his response because that one did surprise me a lot i wasn't aware i thought that he was
03:18:10.980anti intervening in venezuela because he even had tweets saying before like he was criticizing what
03:18:16.100trump has done in this in the second term he listed bombing venezuela and regime change
03:18:21.120of venezuela as one of the negatives now it seems like he's very excited so what's going on with his
03:18:26.820perspective yeah it's uh it's not clear um it seems like he's changed his perspective like
03:18:34.460for the record i think a lot of the accusations against nick are unfair like i think obviously
03:18:39.880there's a massive smear campaign that he's facing constantly like non-stop yeah so i don't think
03:18:45.600everything that people say about him is fair but like he does rage bait like he does post things
03:18:51.020that are meant to be provocative and to get people talking understand like he said initially like go
03:19:00.520usa basically wait sorry my my headphones messed up i i couldn't hear it's reconnecting excuse me
03:19:07.620yeah what were you just saying my apologies yeah so initially he had this um post where he's uh
03:19:15.140praising the operation to kidnap maduro and then after that like very shortly after that he said
03:19:24.140because trump made an announcement and basically indicated that the u.s is going to have a kind of
03:19:29.380continuous presence in venezuela to create a transition to a democratic government or whatever
03:19:35.220so then nick uh expressed like oh i'm not down for that i don't i don't really accept that
03:19:42.180i didn't know that taking out maduro meant that we would be have a have a extended commitment
03:19:49.160to venezuela with resources or troops or whatever and that just seems strange like what do you think
03:19:55.900would happen like of course it'd be military presence right like if you had to have to
03:19:58.960extract oil and regime change you need to deploy troops not correct yeah how are you going to
03:20:03.560maintain control like because if you take out a leader then there's going to be a power vacuum
03:20:08.640And then you have all these different factions who are going to fight.
03:20:12.640And then you don't know who's going to come out on top.
03:20:16.580So the U.S. is not going to leave that to chance.
03:20:18.980Like they're going to have a military presence there, whether it's actual U.S. soldiers or contractors.
03:20:25.020They're going to be deploying billions of dollars in resources in terms of weapons and personnel and contracts to be able to secure those resources that they that they want.
03:20:35.560So that is a huge cost for America in terms of just money and lives.