SHNEAKO - Bradley Martyn is Curious about Islam

00:00:00.000 If someone can show me proof that God himself wrote that book, I'll believe it instantly.

00:00:09.920 Sea is mentioned 32 times in the Quran and land is mentioned, the word land is mentioned 13 times.

00:00:16.400 And that's a direct ratio to the sea levels in the land.

00:00:19.860 That's 71% sea, 29% land.

00:00:22.940 That's literally the ratio of sea to land on earth.

00:00:25.720 how like at the time people weren't even doing geographical research like that how would prophet

00:00:31.200 muhammad know that right so some people will say like okay maybe he intentionally said this so that

00:00:36.560 people would think that it's divine but at the time people didn't even know how much sea there

00:00:40.160 was equivalent to the land it's like literally the mentions of sea and land that is the exact

00:00:45.100 ratio of sea and land on earth or even the word that's interesting that is yeah that is very

00:00:50.720 interesting yo yo yo what's good hey brad what's going on man thank you for the subs naz yeah i'm

00:01:00.180 just having been bad what's good how you doing this is uh my friend warner he's also from la

00:01:05.240 what up g hey what up bro nice to meet you man how you doing you're doing the red light therapy

00:01:10.300 yeah every night man what you mean of course well so okay what's your perception let's get

00:01:16.240 into it man so how do you hear it's just playing out the headphones because i want us to both hear

00:01:21.020 it so that the audio is good trump said no new wars and now we're at war with iran

00:01:25.660 yeah i mean it's not only that but there's so many things you could look back on where they're

00:01:30.540 like we should be doing this and not that and then they just do the thing that they said not to do

00:01:35.300 like there's there's vans tweeting about the epstein shit time ago being like i wonder why 0.78

00:01:39.940 we're not talking about that all of a sudden he's in charge he's in power he's not talking about it 0.71

00:01:43.760 there's clips of trump talking about where we're spending eight trillion dollars in the middle east 1.00

00:01:47.900 we don't even fix our shit here we're just doing the same shit over and over again 0.97

00:01:51.440 it's just it's just tiresome at this point have you done uh and the funny thing was like do you 0.98

00:01:57.760 remember do you remember when uh biden everyone was making fun of biden the way he like pulled

00:02:01.720 out of like all the shit that was left over in uh iraq and like they were like pulling all these 0.85

00:02:06.400 like they left like billions and billions of dollars and they let them take it yeah or maybe 0.96

00:02:10.700 was Afghanistan. And the same people then were like, what a waste of time. Why the fuck did we 0.99

00:02:16.400 do that? We should have never been in the Middle East. And then it's like, what are we doing right 1.00

00:02:20.260 now? What are we going to start doing? So what do you think the issue is? I saw your friend Hassan

00:02:27.280 Piker today. He said mentioned Jewish supremacy. And, you know, for a long time, he's been saying

00:02:32.340 fascism. What's what's really going on? There's other people like Kaysan. You know, he's very 0.59

00:02:37.220 happy that iran is like oh look the people of iran are free right now uh what do you think

00:02:42.620 the bigger issue is going on if this pattern keeps on happening i mean obviously i can't speak to

00:02:50.360 everything like detail why is it going on iran i'm not from iran i'm not in iran i don't i don't

00:02:54.740 know people in iran but i can look at from the outside in and go we've like at what point did

00:03:01.060 people get confused to think that our government cares about people in other countries like why

00:03:06.980 why are we pretending that that's true they don't even care about us here they don't even take care

00:03:12.700 of us here they don't they don't like what are we talking about and they they put it under the

00:03:17.180 guise of like we're free these people in iran like it just seems as if it's just more selfish 0.93

00:03:23.540 in nature like there's just other intent there that they're doing all this shit for i mean like 0.99

00:03:27.860 the iran thing specifically this netanyahu guy's been talking about fucking they're they're gonna 0.98

00:03:32.360 have bombs nuclear bombs for the last 30 years on television televised they're gonna have it in six 0.98

00:03:38.000 weeks they're gonna have it in two months they're gonna have it in one year like I'm not I'm not

00:03:42.400 making it shit up you could see all these clips online this guy's actually saying this has been 0.62

00:03:45.980 campaigning for this for 30 years and so why is it why why do people not look at that and go 0.97

00:03:51.420 that's weird he said we're supposed they're supposed to have bombs in six months and then

00:03:55.440 in three years they're gonna have bombs in two weeks and then they're gonna have bombs in 0.52

00:03:58.680 a year and it's just like how are you not seeing that and going what's really going on here right

00:04:05.500 so they're saying iran should not have access to nukes why can israel have nukes but iran can't

00:04:12.440 all right is this the same playbook as iraq with weapons of mass destruction 0.86

00:04:15.220 i mean it feels the same way it all just feels the same way just a justification

00:04:19.460 to put us in a conflict that's going to benefit other people whether it's banking or it's the

00:04:24.320 military industrial complex or she's rich billionaires who invested in the whole movement 1.00

00:04:28.340 of everything i mean look at the gaza thing because david kushner guys they're doing like

00:04:31.940 a master plan of what they're going to rebuild gaza's like they just wiped out this people's 1.00

00:04:35.520 place and they're just they're going to build hotels and condos like the fuck are we doing 0.81

00:04:40.120 man yeah fifa now everything just for money stadiums in gaza yeah i mean bro it's just so 0.99

00:04:47.720 i'm so tired of this shit at this point it's just so blatant and obvious and we we can do all this 0.93

00:04:52.740 shit but we can't we can't check the bank records and see who paid money to this epstein guy and see 1.00

00:04:57.240 we're like like this shit that happened in our country with our politicians we don't give a 1.00

00:05:01.200 fuck about any of that it's just like deflect and let's go on to the next thing we can get everyone 0.99

00:05:05.340 to rile up behind this and that these people are just terrible and everyone's bad and we're just 0.99

00:05:09.940 the fucking heroes but what the fuck is really happening man well like if you just look at it 1.00

00:05:15.520 it's not even about religion it's just about evil and fucking greed you think it's about religion i 1.00

00:05:22.100 know you do but bro there's a lot of other people who are involved in all the moving pieces that 0.98

00:05:25.200 aren't involved in it in that religious play i do believe it's good versus evil but i don't think

00:05:30.040 it's as concise as like it's just jewish people who want this like messiah to come as i know you

00:05:35.680 would talk about but there's like there's so many other people who are involved in it that are also

00:05:39.560 benefited from me were you talking about the gulf countries the gulf countries i mean it's not like

00:05:47.600 every single billionaire in the u.s is just a jewish person right like right but who's i mean 0.96

00:05:52.660 again we don't need to harp on this forever but who's in charge of the epstein island

00:05:56.260 you know and who are the people if you're going to say that the gulf countries there are supporting

00:06:00.100 the same state who really is pulling the strings who has the power who did the sold the piece of

00:06:05.680 the kaba to they sold it to jeffrey epstein if they're saying like people like saudi and

00:06:11.300 uh dubai kuwait they're partnering they're allying with u.s israel right you got to always follow the

00:06:19.580 line back to who's really in charge is okay my comments on me yeah go ahead so my brother bet

00:06:25.120 i know this is the first time talking to me my name is warner pleasure to meet you my bro

00:06:27.920 um and i yeah and i think the reason why you say you don't think this is a religious thing

00:06:32.600 is because you haven't properly investigated what everyone believes and you're seeing everything

00:06:38.380 from everybody's angle that's why you came to the conclusion that it could possibly not be a

00:06:43.140 religious thing but i'm pretty sure you could admit that there is some spiritual aspect to this

00:06:47.720 right you believe that there's evil that exists right of course i mean people are evil so would

00:06:53.860 you agree that like what i just said is possibly a little bit true that maybe you haven't done a

00:06:59.600 full investigation on all these different beliefs and viewing everything from each perspective and

00:07:05.200 that's why you came to that conclusion would you say that i mean i just look i just look at it from

00:07:09.940 the outside and yeah i don't know enough about the religious aspect of all this but i can tell 1.00

00:07:13.220 you that it's just a bunch of greedy fucking people who just want to continue their fucking 0.99

00:07:16.700 reign of bullshit chaos it could be religion based and whatever but it just seems nonsense 1.00

00:07:23.560 let's replace the word religious with like a spiritual warfare are you okay are you comfortable 1.00

00:07:27.480 with saying that yeah i mean i don't yeah it's just a bunch of greedy fucking humans man i agree 0.99

00:07:33.260 i agree with you 100 i agree with you 100 what were you saying brad i think it's an all size 0.99

00:07:41.580 though like everyone likes to play this game like it's everyone else and it's every other religion

00:07:45.020 i think everyone's greedy i think everyone is selfish everyone wants the best for themselves

00:07:49.260 like i mean the reason why you're making this content is so you make money like and it's not

00:07:53.340 disrespect to you but at the end of the day like everyone's doing everything to benefit themselves

00:07:57.580 and so take that to the highest level in this world which is the politicians the donors all

00:08:02.700 the people who own everything they're just doing the same thing that you are on a way different

00:08:06.940 scale with way different moving pieces right but also it depends on what the pure intentions are

00:08:13.260 because if it was if it was purely for money like then definitely i would be doing a lot of things

00:08:18.220 that i'm not doing right like what i mean gambling for example i why would i not if i was just doing

00:08:26.060 this purely for money i could make five well i'll play devil's advocate for you but i'm not i don't

00:08:30.060 don't think you're a bad person but you've delved so far into the muslim community that if you went

00:08:35.560 to gambling they would turn on you and you wouldn't have that audience that's not true i mean a lot of

00:08:39.460 a lot of muslim creators i think that's true i know but i think that's true i think that you hold

00:08:44.140 yourself to a standard in that regard and so you wouldn't do that because you also know that that

00:08:49.260 would hurt you more than it would help you and i don't think that you're a malicious bad person

00:08:53.340 you're doing things just for like money at all i i think you have a good heart and i think you have

00:08:57.720 a good message but what i'm saying is like everyone likes to do this like it's them it's 0.99

00:09:03.520 just them it's only them and i don't think that's fair at all i think everyone is selfish as fuck 0.90

00:09:09.280 right like people like keir starmer and trump they're backing the same regime they're backing 0.98

00:09:16.860 israel right they're both white christians and then the gulf countries they claim to be muslim

00:09:23.380 and not all of them but a lot of them are also allied up so there there are people responsible

00:09:28.440 in each group for sure but that's what i'm saying i'm saying there's just it's just human bro we're 0.98

00:09:35.060 talking human nature and i'm not saying that like we should be by default fucking greedy and evil

00:09:40.680 but there's just obviously a lot of people out there that get to a point where they're like i'm 0.71

00:09:44.140 better than you for these reasons because i have more accolades or because i have this family

00:09:48.880 nepotism or because i have this money or whatever i mean don't even don't even look at on like a

00:09:54.220 global scale you look at on a friend scale like how many people you know who get some money and

00:09:57.680 they act different and i'm not saying that's a good thing i'm just saying that's what people

00:10:02.180 tend to do so it's like take that to the fucking millionth degree and as you just have these people 0.96

00:10:08.360 who are like i'm better than all these other people whether they're jewish or they're muslim 0.98

00:10:11.960 or they're whatever and they're gonna do it i mean we talked earlier before about the muslim

00:10:15.040 countries where like you can go into these places like dubai the rulers and these people can do

00:10:18.940 whatever they want there's no consequences but if you do it you go to jail you smoke some weed you 0.95

00:10:23.700 go to jail but you better believe they're probably smoking whatever shit like and i don't care at the 0.89

00:10:28.240 end of the day but it is what it is so they they tell you they also hold themselves to a different 0.99

00:10:32.280 standard and they hold the people that you know are in their country to a certain standard so

00:10:37.580 it's just like yeah everyone is just chomping at that these people are not the role models for

00:10:41.700 i'm not saying but i never said that they were yeah i never said at one moment that anyone was 0.96

00:10:47.760 i'm just i'm just i'm just looking at the landscape and going everyone's fucking greedy everyone is 1.00

00:10:52.540 self-entitled everyone feels like they're better than everyone else you get to this stupid ass 1.00

00:10:56.100 level of fucking richness or power and everyone just that's the same shit man and that's the thing 1.00

00:11:01.680 the fear in my hole when i have these conversations i'm just like let's say you remove all the people 0.99

00:11:06.780 that you think are the problem and new people get in charge it's the same thing not just

00:11:10.260 transpire yeah i think what is important is like what you categorized earlier what we

00:11:16.580 agreed upon as well that this is a war between good and evil there's good yes but there's bad

00:11:22.880 good good christians good hold on a second good is subjective so the reality it's a good is

00:11:27.980 subjective but that's my point good is subjective i believe there are certain moral goods like

00:11:34.140 everyone knows you don't abuse children you don't you don't you don't hurt women like there's 0.87

00:11:39.140 certain subjective things but overall there's like everyone just plays this role that oh it's

00:11:44.900 good because it makes sense for me wait hold over there can i wait so you said uh good is subjective

00:11:50.660 right not all good not all good i think there are more i think there are like deep ingrained

00:11:57.380 things that people all kind of go this is good and this is evil well i mean at one time in america

00:12:03.780 slavery was widely accepted right so the society one time in the whole world slavery

00:12:08.740 was widely accepted everyone had slaves everywhere yeah that's my point so is slavery good or bad

00:12:14.860 it's bad right so that there's there's an object that's objective morality it's objectively slavery

00:12:20.620 is bad but subjectively society accepted that as morally good so can you really accept that's my

00:12:27.380 point you're proving my point right now that humans decide what is good for them when it's

00:12:31.460 good for them and they decide it's bad for them when it's bad for them no but if you're if you're

00:12:34.940 following the human logic of it then humans could all accept bad things and be incorrect

00:12:39.800 that good is not subjective in fact that there is objective morality there's an objective idea

00:12:45.920 of good and bad and if you follow societal standards of morality then you could waver off

00:12:51.940 like you said abusing children like everybody knows abusing children is wrong but like in the

00:13:00.600 mayan empire for example they would roll heads down the temple if they committed they would

00:13:06.240 sacrifice the human and they they consider that to be good a lot of the child sacrifice is very

00:13:10.320 known amongst the minds

00:13:12.580 right but i think you guys are proving my point it's just at some point someone thought it was

00:13:20.160 okay it was justified in their whatever their beliefs were at the time that this was just

00:13:24.360 immoral and they were doing it for a specific purpose and there was this outcome that they

00:13:27.760 were going to get from that was good and that's why they did it whether we look back on it now

00:13:31.300 ago it was bad then yeah of course we probably knew it was bad then knowing what we know now

00:13:34.440 but we don't know what they knew then and where they were at in their life and what they believed 1.00

00:13:37.420 in but that's my point humans suck humans are fucking parasites human sin yeah yeah we're and 0.99

00:13:43.480 that's why good is i'm i'm arguing that good is objective and not subjective because humans have 1.00

00:13:49.280 the propensity to sin and we do have the propensity to make mistakes and be greedy and be evil and do

00:13:55.200 wrong things so right now even though they thought that it was it was good at the time

00:13:58.960 we could look now and understand how evil that is so good can't be subjective because if good

00:14:04.520 is subjective the morality changes therefore morality won't exist if morality is not one

00:14:09.460 simple thing it's not an objective truth like the sky being blue or the water being wet if it's not

00:14:15.340 objectively clear what is good and bad then you allow for things like slavery and child sacrifice

00:14:21.040 so good has to come from something objective that never wavers i i agree but what i'm saying is

00:14:28.540 there's people at certain times they just think that what they're doing is it was good do you

00:14:32.220 think the bad guys think they're the bad guys no i i don't think that but that's why we can't

00:14:37.320 follow that that's why we can't follow human ideas of good and bad there you go and i think

00:14:43.480 the point that he's trying to make my brother is that we're getting morality if you're trying

00:14:47.880 to get morality from flawed human beings then 100 the morality is gonna be flawed that's why we get

00:14:53.300 our morality from the creator of the heavens and earth the one that created me and the one that

00:14:57.660 created you and if we get our morality from the creator then then that morality is the true

00:15:03.600 morality and it's timeless so so i love this conversation right because i don't i don't think

00:15:09.620 you're wrong at all how did you get that understanding yeah so i told you that understanding

00:15:15.800 is by you you do your research you read and you use your mind and who wrote it yeah who wrote the

00:15:22.640 quran so have you ever read the quran by he's reading the he was reading the bible right now

00:15:26.500 i have not i have not okay so um but i could assume i could assume without even anything

00:15:31.880 going further that a man and men wrote this over time of course of course and that's a normal

00:15:36.540 assumption right so the prophet muhammad is not like the way that the quran was revealed is not

00:15:41.700 like the way any other books that were revealed so the the the quran is known how is it revealed

00:15:46.880 differently did it did did god himself come down and hand it to you i'm gonna explain to you i'm

00:15:50.940 gonna explain problem was illiterate he didn't know how to read it he was unlettered so other 0.66

00:15:55.640 people wrote the story yeah i'll explain it to you right now bro have some patience bro have some

00:16:00.000 patience bro you got no no i know i'm chilling but like we're we're you're gonna get into some

00:16:06.520 sort of history lesson about the crowd and i respect that i i just i don't think there's

00:16:09.920 anything wrong with what you believe and i'm just not even what i'm saying but humans wrote it

00:16:15.140 transcribed it passed it down right if you allow me to elaborate then i'll tell you bro

00:16:22.100 i can't every book that we have every single book that's been written a human wrote it yes or no

00:16:32.620 once you let me i'll explain to you i'll explain now so no you're so you're telling me so god

00:16:38.300 himself wrote these words with his own hand and handed it to someone once you're ready i'll explain

00:16:42.220 to you brad okay go ahead okay cool so like i was saying so the quran is not like any other book

00:16:47.860 have you ever heard the recitation of the quran before i don't believe so okay so i'll all that's

00:16:55.120 why i'll describe to you how it's different right so the quran is not like any other book it was

00:16:58.740 revealed to the prophet muhammad through angel gabriel right then the prophet muhammad he recited

00:17:03.740 it the companions wrote it right and it was immediately memorized that's why the quran is

00:17:09.220 unlike any other book it doesn't matter if you're a muslim in china a muslim in japan a muslim in

00:17:14.100 brazil a muslim in germany we all read the same exact book the same exact way we recite the quran

00:17:20.460 exactly the same they don't recite the quran in german they don't recite the quran in brazilian

00:17:25.560 they'll recite the quran in chinese they all recite it in arabic the way the way god intended 0.96

00:17:30.560 for you to recite it then it's translated into respective languages but you have to understand

00:17:35.900 that the quran is unlike any other book is known as the final god guide for mankind almighty god

00:17:42.240 has sent previous guides to mankind and while when those prophets were with those people right so

00:17:48.100 almighty god sends you a guide through prophets right so once the prophet is no longer with the

00:17:52.860 people now the people have a revelation from god with them so now those people have a choice are

00:17:58.040 we gonna corrupt this and make ourselves as gods because let's say if god says you cannot do this

00:18:05.340 and i'd say you can't do this so i'm basically saying that i am god then right because i'm the

00:18:10.440 one who's i'm an authority over god correct so that's what those people did they became an

00:18:16.120 authority over what god said and they corrupted the scriptures the quran is very different it's 1.00

00:18:20.740 been preserved letter for letter word for word it's the only book that's been memorized

00:18:24.780 by billions of people across all different languages across all different nations it's

00:18:31.620 unlike any other book and i understand you would have the common misconception that oh it's just

00:18:36.060 like any other holy book but until you read it you cannot say that because it's not going to be

00:18:40.820 based on knowledge this is just based on assumption i understand your subject i had the

00:18:45.180 same assumption as you i didn't read the quran until almost eight to ten years ago and i'm from

00:18:49.300 la i'm from the same background as you so i understand how it is you know i mean but i'm

00:18:53.200 telling you once you read it you'll realize the authority the book speaks with how the speak the

00:18:57.660 book speaks directly to you this is the creator of the heavens and earth speaking to you you read

00:19:01.860 the bible you see how the bible is speaking it's the quran is very very different and i live in la

00:19:07.820 if you like i could gift you a quran once i get back there if you're open to it like i said this

00:19:12.400 nothing is by force bro we don't believe god does not want forced worship if you don't want to

00:19:17.300 worship no problem you don't have to do it nothing is by force if it's by force that's not how it's

00:19:22.020 supposed to happen yeah obviously i don't think that's something god would want anyways yeah

00:19:28.620 but still i'm saying like at some point someone wrote that someone passed it down someone

00:19:34.240 translated it you think it was the same exact way from the very beginning exactly that's why

00:19:37.600 we're trying to tell you that it was how do you know that you should tell brad this is only

00:19:41.320 logical conversation not to convince him to be muslim yeah we're not here to convince you 1.00

00:19:46.540 we don't care if you remember if you accept the truth it only benefits you our life doesn't change

00:19:53.580 it's completely up to you if you accept whatever the truth is or the lie is you have to deal with

00:19:59.320 your own consequences you go in the grave alone we're not in the grave with you bro you feel me

00:20:03.500 so we personally don't care i mean sneaker knows you better but me personally i don't care it's

00:20:07.920 up to you whatever you decide to do that's that's between you and your creator

00:20:11.580 right yeah but still what i'm saying you're we're talking about books that humans wrote

00:20:21.520 revealed by the creator yes it was but also remember the quran is not just uh

00:20:29.100 through the book form it's it was preserved through oral transmission can i can i share

00:20:34.460 with you how it's been memorized like have you ever heard the original recitation by any chance

00:20:40.740 No, I think I told you that earlier.

00:20:42.720 Okay, so do you mind if I recite something for you?

00:20:47.140 Sure, go for it.

00:20:48.240 Okay, cool.

00:20:50.000 And then Sneeko will recite too to show you how it's been preserved, right?

00:20:54.080 Quick before you recite, like the differences, because you keep saying it was written by...

00:20:59.020 Humans.

00:20:59.620 Yeah.

00:21:00.000 And again, I'm not trying to like force religion on you.

00:21:02.040 I did want to also ask you about more about Trump and what's going on.

00:21:07.480 But you said that you like where this conversation is going, right? 0.99

00:21:11.500 Yeah, I love this religion talk because I just find all this shit so interesting 0.99

00:21:16.000 that everyone is so convinced that their God is the only God. 0.99

00:21:19.100 It's funny.

00:21:20.020 Yeah, everyone is convinced.

00:21:21.140 The major difference is we do consider the Torah and the gospel to be words of God.

00:21:28.660 But the difference, like the major difference between the Bible and the Quran

00:21:32.160 is that the Quran was revealed by God.

00:21:33.900 the difference is the bible is written by the apostles like the major so what's the difference

00:21:40.440 of revealed by god or written by the apostles so the apostle the major apostle who wrote the

00:21:45.000 majority of the bible the most prominent apostle his name is paul right paul the apostle never met

00:21:49.680 jesus he wasn't he didn't know him at all he was the fact he was persecuting christians at the time

00:21:54.160 and he was he witnessed the resurrection but he didn't know jesus at all right and this is coming

00:22:00.100 from the people that knew jesus and they kind of they wrote the bible has a lot of ideas

00:22:04.160 the main question is the difference between revealed and written so the difference is like

00:22:10.360 the quran is the revelation directly from god the bible is people that knew jesus or some paul

00:22:15.960 didn't even know him that wrote about his life and wrote about his teachings it's more like a

00:22:21.340 biography type of thing yeah it's like someone's writing like let's say we're around at the time

00:22:26.360 of jesus it's us writing what we saw but who are we we're not an authority authorities are prophets 0.95

00:22:32.680 of god that prove themselves a miracle why do we listen to moses because moses split the goddamn

00:22:38.000 sea you feel me like if you bro brad can you split the sea i don't know i see you bumping 0.91

00:22:44.580 your chest bro i don't know it's too 60 i'm 3.5 it's all good it's all good you know

00:22:49.840 Is he flexing his chest off?

00:22:53.240 I know.

00:22:53.960 Are you flexing his chest off?

00:22:55.460 He's bouncing it, bro.

00:22:56.400 No, not at all.

00:22:57.080 He's like Terry Crews up in here, bro.

00:23:00.540 I'm laying down.

00:23:01.420 But what I'm saying is the words you're using are interesting.

00:23:04.420 Revealed versus written.

00:23:06.460 No, but that's the difference, right?

00:23:08.160 Because the Bible is like a biography.

00:23:10.220 They're talking about...

00:23:10.720 What is the difference?

00:23:11.620 Explain to me what revealed means versus written.

00:23:13.840 Because revealed means eventually it was written.

00:23:16.460 No, revealed means the words came directly from God.

00:23:19.040 So it's just from God right down to the pages

00:23:21.940 The Bible is people who

00:23:24.040 So God just

00:23:25.700 Shot the words onto a page

00:23:28.000 He revealed it to Angel Gabriel

00:23:29.520 Who revealed it to Prophet Muhammad 0.98

00:23:31.200 And then it was transcribed, he was illiterate

00:23:33.260 And then

00:23:34.220 So since the beginning of time, that's how God speaks to human beings

00:23:38.280 Right? So God sends a prophet

00:23:40.120 That looks like us, that talks like us

00:23:42.020 That speaks like us

00:23:43.220 To deliver the message to us

00:23:44.860 Like Jesus, like Adam, like Moses, Abraham 0.59

00:23:47.880 many prophets we believe in like most of the same prophets in judaism and in christianity

00:23:53.220 what's your face what are you what are you smiling no it's just interesting man well

00:24:01.780 what made you laugh it's just like again like it was written still yeah but i think you're

00:24:10.740 i'm not gonna that's fair that's a fair point before you go the major difference is like

00:24:15.560 people the bible is people speaking about jesus's teachings right talking about his life it's

00:24:22.220 biographical right and it's non-authoritative because it didn't come from a prophet yeah so

00:24:28.320 it didn't come from the prophet it's written by the apostle there's a 12 apostle the 12 apostles

00:24:32.240 paul is the 13th apostle he didn't even know jesus and he's the number one person writing

00:24:37.120 about the teachings of jesus so they're speaking about his life and what he said but it's not

00:24:41.600 directly from him it's not his words it's more like a biography of jesus it's a recollection

00:24:47.240 of his life the quran for example although it was revealed to prophet muhammad it's not about his

00:24:52.360 life it's about it's for mankind that's it it doesn't it doesn't you know treat muhammad as 0.99

00:25:00.380 told not to worship him right it was just revealed to him and he's repeating what was told to him

00:25:05.980 through the angel so it's like biographical versus direct revelation does that make sense

00:25:11.700 yes but it was still written written down yeah i think brad is hyper focused on the whole idea

00:25:19.620 of written down which is okay but i'm not gonna lie brad you're you're making a mistake by

00:25:23.240 focusing on you're focusing on the wrong thing at the moment but i understand that that's just

00:25:27.220 the way your your mind operates which is no problem everyone's completely different you have

00:25:31.940 understand the way when we look at things we're looking at things from uh from multiple perspectives

00:25:36.900 right imagine you witness a murder right and there was three people that witnessed it was a muslim 0.97

00:25:42.180 a jew and a christian what what people are doing they only look they only interviewed one witness

00:25:47.620 and came to a conclusion so the jews they only interviewed the jew okay this is what happened

00:25:52.100 the christians they only interviewed the christian okay this will happen but guess what the muslim 0.99

00:25:56.260 interviewed all three witnesses before coming to the conclusion that's why when it comes to us we're

00:26:01.540 different than everybody else my brother and i understand you're saying that everybody says that

00:26:06.180 what'd you say yeah i said it just it just sounds like propaganda

00:26:11.860 that's why we could go back and forth you said how so what makes us different right

00:26:17.460 it's still a book that was written i just can't get over that yeah i understand like but i told

00:26:20.820 you you're hyper focusing on the wrong thing which is no problem that's the way your brain operates

00:26:24.340 that's okay well because the thing that i'm thinking of is just how we've gotten all the 0.99

00:26:28.180 the information we have as humans is someone else wrote some shit and we believe it to be the truth 0.78

00:26:33.460 then you have to look at the evidences and you have to uh yeah that's what i would need to see 0.92

00:26:40.700 you have to look at your own analysis and for example there's things that were predicted in

00:26:45.160 the quran about even today that happened like how would a guy like know how how would prophet 0.83

00:26:51.200 muhammad know who lived 1400 years ago know this right you have to differentiate was it written by

00:26:56.260 man or was it written by something divine and the patterns we can go into this stuff i'm not sure

00:27:01.900 how much brad wants to hear about it but the idea like even the comparison can you say the

00:27:06.340 comparison of the earth and the sea like how many times um you so the way the ground operates but

00:27:12.380 it's not like i understand you're saying okay it's a book uh it was written by people and because of

00:27:17.440 that how else do you think god was going to speak to us he's going to deliver a book and then it's

00:27:22.540 up to you to read it and to to um differentiate if this is truly a word from god or it's not

00:27:28.120 the quran actually has a challenge that hey if this is not a book from god i challenge you to

00:27:33.900 come up with one chapter like it the quran is such a unique book it's unlike any other book

00:27:39.700 on earth bro it's been memorized by hundreds of millions of people all across the globe you can

00:27:44.720 throw all the qurans and burn them today guess what happens they could recreate another one 1.00

00:27:49.380 instantly because it's memorized in the hearts and in the minds of people even you're talking about 0.73

00:27:54.980 parts of the cross i know but you're you're speaking about everything after the fact

00:27:59.860 you're still like you're still talking about this book that i again this is not me saying

00:28:04.100 right or wrong i hope you guys understand that but you're speaking about everything right until

00:28:08.340 you've read it so you you can't say it's what i'm saying is you're reacting everything after it was

00:28:15.380 written well i couldn't hear everything everything you're saying everything you're saying is is after

00:28:21.140 you know you if if you if the book was gone it'd be written the same exact way because millions of

00:28:26.100 people have memorized it right you're the thing that i'm still hung up on is that the inception

00:28:32.100 of it the moment that it became a book yeah how did it become a book who wrote the book that's

00:28:37.940 what i'm talking about like you're you're you're talking about this on the other side of it that

00:28:42.180 And I understand it and I'm not taking away from, you know, anything.

00:28:47.580 Yeah, so it's up to you to decide through the evidences and whether you could put faith into the fact that it is direct revelation from God.

00:28:56.600 Like what got me was seeing some of the miracles in there is like, there's just no way that a man would be able to know this, right?

00:29:03.960 Like my favorite one is the fact that sea is mentioned 32 times in the Quran

00:29:10.960 and land is mentioned, the word land is mentioned 13 times.

00:29:14.080 And that's a direct ratio to the sea levels in the land.

00:29:17.580 That's 71% sea, 29% land.

00:29:20.660 That's literally the ratio of sea to land on earth.

00:29:24.120 At the time, people weren't even doing geographical research like that.

00:29:28.280 How would Prophet Muhammad know that?

00:29:30.240 So some people will say like, okay, maybe he intentionally said this

00:29:33.620 so that people would think that it's divine but at the time people didn't even know how much sea

00:29:37.740 there was equivalent to the land it's like literally the mentions of sea and land is the

00:29:42.500 exact ratio of sea and land on earth or even the word that's interesting that is yeah that is very

00:29:48.420 interesting i think he's more impressed by scientific miracles because he's looking at

00:29:52.300 things from a non-spiritual perspective so i think he's that's the most yeah i think i think he's

00:29:57.140 more interested right brad i think you're more interested in the scientific stuff right because

00:30:00.840 i think the spiritual stuff doesn't really do it for you it looks like i mean i believe i truly

00:30:05.800 believe in the spirituality of all this stuff i'm still just like if someone could show me

00:30:13.320 proof that god himself wrote that book i believe it instantly

00:30:22.200 so if you want to do you want to like you want to get into the scientific uh yeah you know that

00:30:27.000 that off the top of your head off the top of my head not necessarily not necessarily but i know

00:30:30.800 you had a lot of well i mean something i like too like the word worry is mentioned 13 times

00:30:36.240 reassurance is mentioned 13 times so like worry and reassurance are equivalent you know they

00:30:41.520 mentioned the word day and the quran is mentioned 365 times like he knew exactly how many days are 0.62

00:30:46.820 in the year how many times the word month and the quran is mentioned exactly 12 times

00:30:50.440 uh the word punishment is mentioned 117 times and the word mercy 234 times so double the mercy

00:30:57.940 is uh mentioned two times as the amount as punishment and it's the fact the fact that

00:31:05.620 it's written sorry uh the fact that it's written in a way that it can be memorized it's a whole

00:31:10.280 book right it's just pretty it's not it's not as long as the bible is like a third but the fact

00:31:13.980 that you can memorize it means that it has rhythm to it that it's almost not like a song but it's

00:31:20.620 written in a well it was revealed in a way that the human brain can memorize so was it written or

00:31:25.800 revealed now revealed yeah obviously i misspoke it was brand doesn't believe in religion isn't

00:31:31.400 human body itself miracle and came from nowhere yeah he understood he met brad believes in god

00:31:35.920 he knows that that somebody must have 100 believe in god yeah yeah that so he agrees with that he's

00:31:40.840 it's just, it's the religious, it's the organized

00:31:43.140 religion stuff that

00:31:44.680 Yes, yes.

00:31:46.920 That helped me back too, but I completely relate, bro.

00:31:50.300 I came

00:31:51.300 from a Catholic background.

00:31:53.880 Raised Catholic, went to church,

00:31:55.360 all that kind of stuff.

00:31:56.800 And yeah, I just, I'm not a fan of

00:31:59.040 organized religion whatsoever.

00:32:00.680 No, I completely understand.

00:32:02.620 I have discussions with many Christians

00:32:04.920 and they come from the same

00:32:06.900 perspective, you know what I mean?

00:32:07.920 but i absolutely believe in god i don't think this is all on accident i don't think it's just

00:32:12.740 like some random shit just made it so perfect there's no way yeah it's impossible that's when

00:32:18.320 i realized i was muslim because i grew up catholic and you know catholics say that jesus is god 0.97

00:32:24.580 catholics you say you pray to mary you pray to saints like what actually i didn't even know what

00:32:29.680 i thought muslim meant like arab for a long time but i thought muslim had the word muslim literally

00:32:34.720 means somebody who worships god that like that's the translation is worship god and so when i

00:32:40.320 understood that it's like islam means submission to god something that the church and that jews

00:32:46.780 believe in most jews believe or i think yeah jewish tradition believes that muslim most muslims

00:32:51.240 will go to heaven because they're monotheistic the catholic church says that this is literally

00:32:56.520 catholic doctrine the church the vatican says muslims worship the father so when i when i

00:33:01.480 understood that. I'm like, well, that's the one I always prayed to when I was a kid. I always prayed

00:33:04.300 to God. I didn't pray to a man. I didn't pray to other things. I was praying when I wanted to

00:33:08.840 connect with God and pray to God. There's words were illiterate until after Quran was passed on.

00:33:15.160 There was no Arabic alphabet. I didn't know that. And so when I understood that, like, okay,

00:33:20.480 it's just the worship of God. It made sense. So I just followed that line of logic. Okay. So I want

00:33:26.660 to worship god and god alone right this is the the only religion that really makes sure to keep

00:33:32.120 that direct connection right without worshiping others and then i learned more and then i learned

00:33:37.720 about the chronic miracles and it just made sense like this there's no way this dude would be able

00:33:42.040 to know to just get this by accident it had to be some sort of divine revelation

00:33:47.580 yeah i mean again i i can't speak to it i don't know enough about any of that

00:33:56.420 uh quran stuff or you know being a muslim i don't know anything about it yeah that's what most

00:34:02.700 muslim just means submission to god which already like obviously you don't you haven't read the 0.50

00:34:07.820 quran or understand the five pillars and stuff but that's if you say you believe in god and that

00:34:12.240 we should worship it that's like already you know that's the core tenets of what islam is

00:34:17.440 and honestly believe it or not brad you probably have a lot of the core tenets already in your

00:34:23.800 belief like i'm pretty sure if you you believe you said you believe in a creator right absolutely

00:34:29.060 and then do you believe there's multiple creators or if there if you do believe in a creator there's

00:34:33.320 only one creator yeah one creator or multiple one okay wonderful and that's and guess what

00:34:40.560 the only religion that believes in one god and worships one god without partners and equals 0.98

00:34:46.280 is islam and what does the word islam mean submission to god that's all it means bro 1.00

00:34:52.420 it's literally that simple bro if you believe that there's one god and you believe in only

00:34:56.580 worshiping god there's only very few options there's islam and then there's christianity 1.00

00:35:02.220 but obviously they believe in the idea of the trinity which goes into pothism then the judaism

00:35:06.880 but obviously you cannot you have to be born a jew you're not accepted as a jew if you don't

00:35:11.580 have a jewish mother so reality there's only one choice if you believe in god and you want to

00:35:15.740 worship god and you want to have a system to know how to be prepared for this world and the hereafter

00:35:22.160 and to prepare for a meeting with the creator in the hereafter.

00:35:25.700 You know what I mean?

00:35:27.940 It's not as complicated as you want to make it seem like.

00:35:30.520 It's actually very simple, bro.

00:35:32.120 Very simple.

00:35:32.760 And you already got the main gist of it, which is that there's one God.

00:35:35.960 Do you believe others deserve worship besides God,

00:35:39.120 or only God deserves worship? 1.00

00:35:44.780 You're talking about, like, people and shit? 0.99

00:35:46.560 Yeah, yeah. 1.00

00:35:46.900 Let's say God.

00:35:47.960 Okay, there's God.

00:35:48.920 And then there's his creation.

00:35:50.240 doesn't creation also deserve worship

00:35:52.760 or only the creator that created

00:35:54.880 everything who deserves worship

00:35:56.780 that's an interesting question

00:36:02.360 this is the thing that I like

00:36:09.240 have a hard time with

00:36:10.660 I think

00:36:11.380 no then again it doesn't make sense

00:36:14.220 yeah I'd say God

00:36:16.280 what doesn't make sense

00:36:17.520 because i believe that i believe there there is somewhat god inside of all of us

00:36:24.500 not like we're all god but i believe that god is a part of all of us okay so then now i don't

00:36:30.320 what would be your definition of god if you believe that hey there's god within all of us

00:36:36.020 then what is the definition of god because then this is what's being played with is the definition

00:36:41.020 i'm answering it love love love so your definition of god is love yes that's it

00:36:51.740 yes okay okay i want you to think does that make sense

00:36:58.540 well what do you think matters the most in this world yeah i i agree i i agree is following uh

00:37:04.940 trying to act with love and trying to obey like what do you think is the most important thing in

00:37:09.980 in this world exactly i agree with you it's trying to to leave that's why the name of the

00:37:14.500 community is love speech i want his answer

00:37:16.760 but it's like i want his answer um yeah i understand love is a very important thing

00:37:24.920 but i don't think that's the only thing when it comes to who the creator is it's way deeper

00:37:30.800 than just love i'm asking you as a human how god introduces himself in surah e klaus

00:37:35.600 show him i don't want to get too scripture but yes so he's gonna read what i'm asking is what

00:37:41.460 do you think the most important thing in your life to do is is is worship god which is which

00:37:46.700 is leading with love correct yeah yeah i understand you are you are right in a sense

00:37:50.600 you are right in a sense that love is extremely important thing which is why i think that that

00:37:55.320 question is good because it's like you said in this world yeah yeah isn't god greater isn't god

00:38:01.940 the creator is any greater than this he doesn't he created this world so he doesn't exist within

00:38:07.400 the same barometers in the same so it's different right love is is a human emotion feeling and we

00:38:14.880 should act with love and do things with love and obviously god is capable of love but saying god

00:38:21.660 is love is minimizing because you all say that he created everything god is the is the almighty

00:38:27.300 creator now there's all different types of love what about someone that wants to love children

00:38:32.200 is that okay what about someone that wants to love their brother you know i mean there's

00:38:35.540 there's so many different types of love bro we i feel like love is too uh of a you know i don't

00:38:41.680 know it's a human it has to be deeper than just love what if like a brother wants to love his

00:38:47.420 other brother and the the not the right way you know i'm saying or what if uh someone wants to

00:38:52.640 love their mother but not well i gotta i gotta ask you guys this uncomfortable question because

00:38:57.840 i see it all the time on the internet i don't know enough about this but this whole prophet

00:39:01.580 muhammad thing didn't he like marry like a six-year-old or something like that and maybe 0.94

00:39:05.420 i'm completely wrong on that but is that i get that all the time so there's a couple things

00:39:10.840 about one that's not part of the quran this is what they say an inauthentic hadith so you can't

00:39:15.540 verify that right also at the time again again i'm not even trying to i know you're not i had

00:39:21.280 the same question i had the exact same question you're like the way you're speaking you're not

00:39:25.900 talking to people who like like we we just started like i read the quran like probably eight years

00:39:31.240 ago that was the first time i read it sounds exactly like it's just it's informative it's

00:39:37.440 good to ask questions if you don't ask questions then what are we doing here everyone should ask

00:39:41.040 questions so so some of the the hadith so there's there's the quran and then there's when people

00:39:46.160 talk about the life of the prophet and so we have like the people that were around him and they

00:39:51.680 speak about his life you have inauthentic hadith and you have verifiable hadith you have direct

00:39:56.080 and you have some things that are indirect some of them say that she was 19 years old some of them

00:40:00.360 say that she was nine but at the time especially people died at the age of 30 this was normal in

00:40:07.580 most societies and also we believe that she was of the age of maturity so we're supposed to follow

00:40:11.960 that so if she was 19 and if that was if that was the age she reached maturity then then we're

00:40:17.240 supposed to believe that do you say do you see how things change with time exactly yeah like

00:40:27.860 just in delaware in 1870 brad you know what the age of marriage was no idea seven years old no

00:40:33.480 that's fucking insane in america was seven years old in delaware right so the age of consent the 0.94

00:40:41.760 Age of consent has always changed over time, right? 0.98

00:40:44.180 It's been, most of the world is like 14, 15 years old.

00:40:46.960 Most people don't think that's okay

00:40:48.140 because most people are not mature at that time.

00:40:50.160 But what it says in the Quran,

00:40:51.220 we're supposed to marry people.

00:40:52.640 People are supposed to have relationships

00:40:53.660 when they're physically and mentally ready.

00:40:55.580 So if they have to be mature,

00:40:57.020 they have to be an actual adult

00:40:58.840 by the biological definition, not the legal definition.

00:41:01.680 If you follow the legal definition

00:41:02.880 of seven years old in Delaware,

00:41:04.660 that's probably 99.9% of the time not gonna make sense

00:41:07.900 because the seven-year-old is not gonna be ready

00:41:09.520 for for maturity and she's not gonna be mentally ready physically it's not gonna it's not gonna

00:41:14.160 make any sense that's why like following what you said earlier subjective morality

00:41:18.240 it wavers and it's most of the time it's always gonna you know you're gonna find errors

00:41:23.440 yeah this shit's so interesting to me man it's so funny yeah it is really interesting but i think

00:41:31.820 when it comes to this it's better to focus on the basics like what we were just talking about 0.99

00:41:35.840 like what is the absolute basics that there is a creator right we identify that this is a creator

00:41:41.300 then we identify who does our worship belong to is the worship belong to the creator along with

00:41:47.580 the creation or only the creator because it seems like you have to think a little bit about that

00:41:51.820 question about does the creation also deserve worship and obviously when you say worship what

00:41:58.240 do you mean by worship yes you specifically so worship i think a lot of people have the idea that

00:42:03.540 That's just prayer, but worship is doing things that God wants us to do.

00:42:07.600 So anything that, that perfect.

00:42:09.840 Yeah.

00:42:10.760 So that's my point, right?

00:42:12.100 And what is the ultimate thing you think God wants us to do?

00:42:14.660 Say that again. 0.71

00:42:17.640 So what do you think the ultimate thing God wants us to do then?

00:42:20.200 Is worship and worship is described by a lot of things,

00:42:22.940 which is doing what he, what he tells us to do.

00:42:24.880 So that's stuff like being in proper shape is a form of worship because we're

00:42:29.340 not supposed to be, we're supposed to be taking care of our bodies, you know,

00:42:32.580 giving charity is a form of worship because he tells us to give 2.5% of our salary every year

00:42:37.980 to people that need it. There's like smiling, being nice, showing love, you know, making your

00:42:43.860 community a better place. I think everything you just described is love, worship, charity,

00:42:48.800 loving yourself in a way that you take care of yourself. Everything comes back to that.

00:42:54.320 Don't the greedy people who control the world, don't they love money?

00:42:57.300 uh yeah i believe they also love themselves they have a delusional factor where they believe that

00:43:04.900 what they're doing is right i'm not saying it is right but i'm saying that i think that

00:43:08.300 there's a there's a deluded factor of love where people are just like this more more this more

00:43:17.140 that and it's it's a form of i'm filling this void within myself that is unfillable but i think

00:43:24.360 they're trying to chase that feeling still i think they're still trying to chase the feeling 1.00

00:43:28.000 that they're loved that they're good enough like and that's why they people do fucked up shit 0.99

00:43:31.840 because they think they're trying to chase something inside themselves yeah and that's 0.99

00:43:35.500 the problem like people on epstein island love sleeping with children that's why like if you

00:43:40.300 follow the human innate desire to just do what you love you could stray away because you're then

00:43:44.720 you're serving the self instead of serving god right if you're just chasing like stuff that that

00:43:49.120 that you love money like people do love money but chasing that forever will have you doing

00:43:54.460 things that are bad for the world so we should always we're supposed to act in worship not

00:43:58.940 strictly love so being nice and being a good person giving charity helping even like an act

00:44:04.520 of smiling because we're told that smiling has a contagious effect on people makes other people

00:44:08.980 smile that's an act of worship because doing anything that pleases god is an act of worship

00:44:13.780 right god wants us to pray god wants to get to feed others to contribute to be healthy all that

00:44:21.280 is encompassed within worship that's that's why i think worship transcends love because human love

00:44:27.780 where we're slaves to our desires following that but what i'm saying is everything you just said

00:44:31.900 is just is like a different form of love love i don't think love is as linear as you're describing

00:44:36.160 it but it's the difference between doing things because you love god or loving yourself you know

00:44:43.320 putting your own love for yourself and your love of your desires.

00:44:46.320 Like even that,

00:44:47.280 man,

00:44:47.380 I like,

00:44:48.080 I love,

00:44:48.960 I don't want to say love,

00:44:49.800 but I love nicotine.

00:44:50.840 Right.

00:44:51.520 But that stuff can be harmful.

00:44:52.640 That's why it's not encouraged.

00:44:53.560 So if I,

00:44:54.480 just because I love this doesn't mean it's best.

00:44:56.680 And I should do that.

00:44:58.120 Yeah.

00:44:58.360 I'm supposed to do it.

00:44:59.300 I'm not saying that.

00:45:00.320 I'm not saying that.

00:45:01.080 I'm just saying that also the things you're describing are like a version of

00:45:04.380 love,

00:45:04.780 the worship,

00:45:07.720 the things you're describing about charity,

00:45:09.300 about smiling.

00:45:09.980 That's,

00:45:10.240 that's love.

00:45:11.200 The love of God,

00:45:12.220 the love of God.

00:45:13.320 yeah but also the love of your neighbor right the charity the smiling all that is a relationship to

00:45:19.940 another and in the worship if you talk about exercise is a love of self i'm not saying this

00:45:26.020 like a narcissistic love only of self but that's a showing a love of yourself which is a respect to

00:45:31.240 your creator because he created you you're loving yourself you're doing the things you want to be

00:45:35.200 able to do or you want to be able to become better at whether it's better at reading or

00:45:38.380 working out doesn't matter it's all a form of love right but like see maybe your neighbor could

00:45:45.200 be a horrible person so like giving him good charity and stuff that there's there could be

00:45:49.880 inconsistencies because like it's good to love your neighbor but if your neighbor is doing

00:45:54.480 terrible things then you're supposed to correct him so it the the difference is the love of things

00:46:00.080 you correct somebody do you think you can correct you can't correct somebody with love

00:46:03.700 you can you can my point is that it's the love it's following the the love that god wants rather

00:46:09.440 than the love in this world and human desires human desires and worldly things that's the

00:46:14.860 quickest way to corruption and why we fall off and why we do things that we shouldn't do like

00:46:20.220 what the greatest form of love is the worship of god because god created objective morality

00:46:26.100 god knows what we're supposed to do what we shouldn't do without god's law then we've done

00:46:31.380 the terrible things that we see happen all the time actually i have a question for brad so brad

00:46:36.940 it's interesting god is love right so do you believe god let's say the people who rebel

00:46:42.840 against god you don't think god is also wrath as well

00:46:46.040 for instance these evil people that we're just describing what happens to them

00:46:56.120 if god is only love i i think that comes to free will no i know but but that's not yeah

00:47:05.180 i see where he's going so what happens to those people so if god is love what happens to people

00:47:11.340 that act in free will and do terrible things do you think that god is just gonna love them and hug

00:47:15.640 them man it's a good question or do you think people get punished like people on epstein do

00:47:24.240 you think that they're they'll be punished for corrupting the world i think they should be

00:47:29.200 absolutely so god is just like god is is god is just so people that don't deserve eternal paradise

00:47:37.220 they will be punished which is in a way a form of love because it's the love of his creation and

00:47:42.340 knows that people need to be held accountable for what they do or else our free will is pointless

00:47:48.060 we have free will because we're supposed to do what's right god isn't just god created love but

00:47:54.120 he isn't love in and of itself because love is like it's like a human emotion god is the almighty

00:47:59.100 the most merciful the all-knowing knowing what we're supposed to do knowing where we're gonna go

00:48:04.040 deciding if we deserve paradise or we deserve hell do you think that there is a hell on earth

00:48:10.880 i i do believe there is a hell on earth yeah 100 percent like within your own options

00:48:17.140 within your own actions and the things that you do and the way that you treat people and you do

00:48:22.640 terrible things and you're a bad person do you think that that person lives in a type of hell

00:48:26.300 and is being punished i do did you see elon musk at that stadium he where everyone's applauding

00:48:31.700 you guys like a trillionaire and he looks around he tries to talk to everybody and this is a guy

00:48:35.920 like you know allegedly i like that i got him ban on x right but he could cure what right now

00:48:40.420 elon musk has enough money to stop world hunger and he's not you know he's spending it on spaceships

00:48:44.900 and stuff so he had the stadium he's looking around he wants to talk to somebody and there's

00:48:48.040 no one around him he has nobody and he sits down alone quiet i think that that is a print i think

00:48:52.940 that that is hell on earth right being a slave to your desires to money to being accepted to being

00:48:57.440 validated to you know being a degenerate that being a slave to that and not finding what you're

00:49:04.400 supposed to do not finding the clear path that god gave us i think that that's a prison of hell

00:49:08.300 because i don't think these people are happy i don't think that they ever will have pure happiness

00:49:13.120 Because when they prioritize worldly things, you know, money, fame, and stuff like Epstein

00:49:18.320 Island, the most debaucherous activities, once it's done, like once you do these heinous

00:49:23.540 acts and it could be exciting and spike your dopamine, then it's over and now what?

00:49:27.160 It's like post-nut clarity.

00:49:28.260 Like, yeah, it's fun, but now what?

00:49:29.640 You're still, you're not satisfied.

00:49:31.320 It's not fulfilling the soul, like you said.

00:49:34.160 I completely agree with you.

00:49:35.500 But do you think anyone can just find divine happiness?

00:49:38.600 I think that is God.

00:49:40.400 Like you can't, you can't always be happy.

00:49:42.560 No, absolutely not. That's why like everything you do every day is supposed to worship every day because of all the problems in the world and because we have the propensity to fall off. So every day, doing the right thing, waking up and doing what you're supposed to do every single day, that routine, it's a journey for this temporary life to try to find eternal paradise.

00:50:01.160 we're never gonna be completely happy just because you find god doesn't mean that everything's saved

00:50:06.160 you find god and then you're supposed to do what he tells us what to do which is worship which is

00:50:10.160 charity which is do right every day and then through that path through the you know using

00:50:15.400 your time to do as many right things as you could do as many good things that is the clearest way

00:50:19.960 the straight path to keep the happiest state you could find if if you don't mind uh so the idea of

00:50:28.820 happiness right this is like a disney fairy tale that people want to find happiness on earth

00:50:33.880 the reality is we're being tested on earth this is not a place of happiness the place of happiness

00:50:40.140 exists after you pass your test then the place of happiness is there eternal happiness forever

00:50:46.660 you can't get sad you can't get sick none of these things don't exist but the reality this earth is

00:50:53.060 a testing ground to see if you

00:50:55.060 do deserve happiness forever

00:50:57.120 or if you don't.

00:51:02.080 Yeah, like

00:51:03.000 that's how I see

00:51:04.320 hardship and stuff. I think you should introduce Brad

00:51:07.240 to Sheik Ufman. Oh my god.

00:51:09.160 He's fucking brown. Okay. 1.00

00:51:11.400 Like, it's this

00:51:12.780 they always ruin it, bro.

00:51:16.240 That's why I

00:51:17.160 think like hardship, like Brad, you've been through

00:51:19.000 a lot in your life.

00:51:21.080 And I think

00:51:22.380 i don't know if you agree with this but this is my point of view is that when you deal with

00:51:27.100 hardship it's a test from god to see how you can become a better person from it and you're somebody

00:51:32.720 who's experienced so much and has dealt with a lot of hardship and we can see that you became

00:51:37.800 a better person from it and you found the lessons you were supposed to find and you're supposed to

00:51:42.040 overcome a lot of people will have the test that you've had and become evil and become like they

00:51:48.040 say hurt people hurt people people that spread evil around the world people that have failed

00:51:51.800 the test and misery loves company. And so they want other people to join them. Right. But if

00:51:56.200 you're able to overcome that test and deal with that hardship in a way where you become better

00:52:00.560 and make you even love more and want to do more good things because you want the world to be a

00:52:04.520 better place because you felt what it feels like to go through that pain that is passing the test.

00:52:12.800 Right. I don't think you're wrong. I think if I look at my life, it was maybe this is why I'm

00:52:18.840 so closely connected to the idea of love and it all being about love is that that's all I was

00:52:23.180 looking for so then I realized if I can be the thing I was looking for for other people then

00:52:28.880 I will have done my job that's exactly like what we believe and you kind of agreed with me so you

00:52:35.460 thought that you were you were looking to be loved but you found contentment and you found tranquility

00:52:40.440 and doing the right things and making the world a better place contributing to like that is an

00:52:46.540 act of worship you realize that like pure contentment didn't come from trying to please

00:52:50.120 yourself but to please god because god wants to do the right thing which is leave an impact

00:52:55.040 but not even that directly it was just about giving love to people around me people in my

00:53:01.000 family people in my circle people that i spoke to giving love to people came up to me said thank

00:53:05.020 you for videos it was just about being as present as i could in those moments because they were

00:53:09.600 telling me something out of this this helped me in this moment and why would i not sit there and

00:53:16.240 give as much as i can in those moments because i remember being like yeah i wish i had this i wish

00:53:20.760 i had that and then i had it right from from a different angle and by different means but that's

00:53:26.840 why i strongly relate to the idea of love is that like that's what everyone is searching for is

00:53:30.900 acceptance is feeling like they're worth something like they have purpose and i think that love is is

00:53:36.120 the main driving factor of that like people are trying to make money so that they could be loved

00:53:40.640 they can find a partner or people think they're important whatever right and i think love is just

00:53:45.140 the thing that we're all searching for in different ways in different moments and you know it's just

00:53:50.040 about finding it yeah and giving and giving it in order to receive it too so yeah what was more

00:53:56.240 satisfying like when someone says that you left a positive impact on them or you know casinos or

00:54:04.580 you know sleeping around with women like because a lot of people encourage that and think that

00:54:08.460 that's like the pinnacle that's you know people consider that to be like the yeah the pinnacle

00:54:13.060 happiness like sleeping with a really bad girl from from instagram what was more satisfying that

00:54:18.280 like a baddie from ig or seeing a positive impact that you've had on someone well god knows i did

00:54:26.340 my time with the baddies from ig but uh god knows that instagram knows too bro god god knows dude

00:54:34.360 and uh but but man yeah there's there's nothing else in this world that actually matters like i 0.98

00:54:40.240 I mean, I've done all that shit. 0.94

00:54:42.300 None of it made me feel fulfilled or purposeful. 0.99

00:54:44.120 The only thing that made me feel fulfilled or purposeful

00:54:45.800 when I noticed that I was able to help others

00:54:47.960 in a way that, again, I was looking to find that help

00:54:50.720 throughout my life as I was growing up,

00:54:52.820 whether it was father figures or friendships

00:54:54.640 or relationships and just feeling like I was good enough,

00:54:57.880 like I was good enough to be in a space

00:55:01.260 or to be looked up in a way

00:55:04.420 because I would try to always look up to people

00:55:06.440 and I was trying to figure out like,

00:55:07.800 how am I doing this in my life?

00:55:09.580 is this right is this wrong and and so when people come up to me and tell me hey the thing you said

00:55:14.720 about this helped me not take my life or i started this business and it's going so great now and i

00:55:20.480 want to say thank you yeah there's nothing else that's ever been more satisfying ever i mean you

00:55:24.100 could take it all away and i will feel like i've done enough that's for sure and do you know why

00:55:29.120 you feel good about that love yeah and because that's something that we're supposed to be doing

00:55:36.000 god has instructed us that you like let's say the way you treat your create the creation of god

00:55:42.180 like you treat the creation of god with mercy with compassion god will treat you the same way

00:55:46.580 and it looks like you have that philosophy that you want to treat people with kindness

00:55:50.100 with love but you have to understand like we just discussed god is not just love and there has to

00:55:55.620 be a deeper description of what love is like what are the limits of love like we just discussed i

00:56:00.080 just thought of an analogy yeah so like a perfect example is okay so like when stable or now my bad

00:56:06.840 for bringing it up but when he grabs your hat right you kind of you taught him a lesson that

00:56:12.260 if you if you that's love right but a lot of people will misinterpret that and be like love

00:56:18.040 is but is it it doesn't sound directly like hitting someone because they got in your personal

00:56:22.060 space and touched you that's not like that that can't really be described as love directly right

00:56:26.980 love is like that's that's or that's become subjective yeah that is subjective because

00:56:33.180 but what you did like you people could argue you did the right thing because you taught him a lesson

00:56:37.740 and he's going to be better not just him a lesson you probably thought the world everybody else

00:56:42.280 that you you can't violate personal space which is it's not really an act of love it's it's doing

00:56:47.200 the right thing it's an act of because love would be like okay you grab my hat oh i love you so much

00:56:53.160 please don't do that again and you give him a hug

00:56:55.120 is he going to keep doing that and grabbing

00:56:57.220 and getting your personal space probably because he didn't

00:56:59.240 learn a lesson

00:56:59.820 so it's doing the right thing

00:57:02.520 transcends love because love

00:57:05.180 is like such thing as tough love as well

00:57:07.220 but you see

00:57:09.200 how like yeah you're right like you see how subjective

00:57:11.300 the idea of love is like what

00:57:13.220 is that like what is love

00:57:14.960 what is love what is love Brad

00:57:17.220 that's that's let's define what is love

00:57:19.420 baby don't

00:57:21.360 hurt me

00:57:21.920 it's a steroid laugh i don't know man

00:57:41.600 yeah but like tough love like how would you but you see what i mean like that love is

00:57:47.740 not even really definable what you're really saying is doing the right thing ideology of love

00:57:54.220 is flawed simply because it has no boundaries thus causing lgbtq great point lgbtq what do

00:58:00.700 they say love is love right is that good for the world like transgenderism for children like oh we 0.98

00:58:07.460 love kids they should be able to change their gender is that the right thing to do they're up 1.00

00:58:11.340 i think that's but i think that's a disguise i think it's a disguise i don't think that's the

00:58:16.980 that's the problem with like operating with love because liberals they do operate i think a lot of

00:58:21.800 them have the propensity to want to do right they have empathy they're like oh this kid feels like

00:58:26.360 he's in the wrong body let's i love him i want the best from he should be able to change his gender 0.99

00:58:30.380 which transcends that is what's right and wrong we know what's better for them is guiding them

00:58:35.240 on the right path and telling them that their their confusion and stuff it has nothing to do 0.99

00:58:39.560 with being able to chop off your penis it's from the fact that you're misguided or maybe you got 0.99

00:58:43.880 brainwashed by something that you read or you're confused so the real act of love is following what 0.99

00:58:49.800 god says if you follow just if you say love is love like lgbt then you get drag queens in in 1.00

00:58:55.780 kindergartens right that's that's a perfect example of how love is not the almighty

00:59:00.360 i see what you're saying in that sense because yeah i mean it's it's like yeah where are you

00:59:07.420 getting the love from it's obviously these certain people have a little bit more nefarious ideas or 0.98

00:59:12.160 whatever the fuck they got going on. 0.90

00:59:13.700 Love is a perfect example of subjective 0.99

00:59:16.120 morality, which we both agreed

00:59:17.740 can't be the case because subjective morality

00:59:19.960 also allows for minds to cut off people's head. 0.97

00:59:22.280 Epstein Island and slavery.

00:59:23.940 It can't come from anything subjective.

00:59:26.300 You could say, I was loving those children.

00:59:28.360 Yeah. That's my form

00:59:30.080 of love. Subjective morality is always

00:59:32.080 the path to corruption in the world.

00:59:33.640 It has to come from something. There has to be

00:59:35.560 objective law. Something that's unwavering.

00:59:41.000 Hmm.

00:59:42.160 so do you mind if we define because remember the whole idea is you know we the first question was

00:59:48.380 hey like what like what is god like what's your definition of god and you simply responded love

00:59:53.880 so is it okay if you hear our description of what we believe is the creator yeah why do you got a

01:00:00.140 chain on because i'm from la what's up what you mean i'm from la what you mean like that's what

01:00:05.100 we do that anyway bro i can't have a chain on well you ain't no i'm just curious all right well why

01:00:13.560 is it important to you huh why is it important to you oh i mean i just i like it i mean this is i

01:00:19.660 mean i grew up uh i grew up in the muhammad ali quote that's a good one okay i mean if you want

01:00:24.040 to be honest with you um you know muhammad ali he made a statement right he said that hey um the

01:00:29.420 only reason people listen to me is because i have this i have this i have this if i didn't have

01:00:34.700 these things that people don't listen the reality we live in a materialistic world and why do you

01:00:39.640 think drake why do you think all these people are popular it's because they want what they have so

01:00:45.520 the reality is our message is different right is we'll show you we have the same things but we want

01:00:50.860 to guide you to truth we don't want to guide you to the opposite you understand what i'm saying

01:00:55.320 yeah hold on one second i'm trying to get something well you put it on your chain too

01:01:01.880 I don't even know Brad had a chain.

01:01:04.340 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:01:04.980 Hold on.

01:01:08.760 So why you got a chain on now?

01:01:11.600 Well, because you got a chain on.

01:01:13.620 Hold on.

01:01:14.140 Hold on.

01:01:19.220 Oh, man.

01:01:19.960 That's funny, bro.

01:01:20.920 That's funny.

01:01:24.080 Hold on. 1.00

01:01:25.140 Goddamn it. 1.00

01:01:25.540 I'm going to get that shit later. 1.00

01:01:26.800 I don't know what the fuck's going on. 1.00

01:01:27.700 Well, where's the watch? 0.99

01:01:28.440 You got to get the watch, the bracelet.

01:01:29.780 Come on, bro.

01:01:30.260 You're missing some pieces, bro.

01:01:31.880 yeah it's all i got it all it's all in the same spot but you're having a little

01:01:35.640 technical difficulties right now no worries no worries now i know where brad keeps his

01:01:39.820 jewelry next time i go do his podcast i know where to look sit the bathroom sit the bathroom

01:01:43.880 uh don't go in there

01:01:45.220 all right so do you still believe i'm not i don't want to harp on this forever but do you

01:01:51.960 still believe that definition that god is love in a sense yeah for sure even though we define

01:01:59.120 love as being subjective morality i maybe it's just because it's in my mind i don't do it that

01:02:06.740 way because the way i see it like obviously i would decide i don't know i'm just i'm not a

01:02:14.140 fucking weirdo i wouldn't i wouldn't try to rationalize love being like these kids should 0.99

01:02:18.540 be able to do this to their fucking genitals because they should just be kids and i want 1.00

01:02:22.380 them to be these type of kids like i wouldn't do that in my head but but other people can right 1.00

01:02:27.820 but i but i think there's something else going on there that isn't is isn't love

01:02:33.520 that's like there's something else happening there it's human error right well we agree

01:02:39.380 like you started off saying that everybody has the propensity to be evil so the problem is is

01:02:44.320 humans who are sinful and who are like we're all gonna we all make mistakes we're all imperfect

01:02:49.080 human definition of love and human morality is always going to waver because we're imperfect

01:02:55.480 we're just people we're mortal we die we poop and we eat and we sleep 0.78

01:02:58.600 so like letting a human even though like yeah you're a rational god most people

01:03:02.680 hopefully are rational we still justify things the wrong way

01:03:08.060 following our own law rather than objective law

01:03:10.560 yeah yeah i'm not saying you're wrong so is god still love

01:03:17.200 in a way yes i'm not saying only i'm saying it's the only thing he is is love

01:03:23.940 okay what i want to what's your definition of it i love that question because it makes people think

01:03:29.920 like how would you define god yeah yeah that's why it's a very important question because everyone

01:03:34.000 says they believe in god but what do they believe about god everyone has a different idea about we

01:03:39.400 what they believe in to god but i want you to pay attention to brett once we get like and think

01:03:45.040 about as soon as i ask you all right hey do you mind if i divine it you immediately hey what's

01:03:49.420 up with your chain as soon as we're about to get to the meat of things you're joking around i know

01:03:53.040 And I don't want you, because there is a spiritual aspect of speaking the truth.

01:03:57.520 When you speak the truth, there is a spiritual aspect where there's the other side that doesn't want you to hear the truth.

01:04:02.600 So that's why I just want you to pay attention to that aspect.

01:04:05.460 You understand what I'm saying? 0.51

01:04:07.860 Yeah, I was just trying to troll you.

01:04:09.280 No, I don't.

01:04:09.860 It's all good.

01:04:10.340 You control me, Ron.

01:04:11.160 It's all good.

01:04:11.980 It's all good.

01:04:14.140 Yeah, but what's your definition of God?

01:04:15.720 Yeah, so, okay, now let's get into the definition of what is God, right?

01:04:18.900 So when we say God, we already agreed on many things, that God is one, right?

01:04:22.620 what we should agree on and that he's indivisible right he cannot be divided to parts right god

01:04:28.380 the sustainer needed by all meaning everyone and everything needs the creator but do you

01:04:34.780 think the creator needs us do you think god needs us why else would he create us so you think god

01:04:45.340 okay no that's my question to you do you think god needs no no so i'm asking like why would god make

01:04:50.700 some stuff that he didn't need if he's like smartest and omnipotent in all these ways like

01:04:55.080 why would he do that question no that is a good question so the reality is god does not need us

01:05:00.180 right he created us but but tell me why he would create us then yeah i'm getting to that he created

01:05:06.580 us to test us and if you pass the test you get a reward that no eye has ever seen no mouth has

01:05:13.140 ever tasted no nose has ever smelled and no ear has ever heard and that's a reward for those who

01:05:18.260 pass their test in life let's say god created us to test us but he doesn't need us why who cares

01:05:26.400 yeah that's applying the way i see it is like that's applying human thinking to the almighty

01:05:31.900 creator and the almighty is greater than us isn't that isn't that what this whole conversation has

01:05:36.680 been but the the difference is that we can understand each other we can but all we can

01:05:41.680 talk about is our thoughts in relationship to god which is the same thing you're describing

01:05:47.740 but we we're not able to comprehend god the way that we're able to comprehend each other

01:05:52.800 because the creator has to be something that is not that's immortal that's greater than us

01:05:59.220 that's smarter than us that's merciful that understands us that's better than us

01:06:04.140 our human thinking about why we do things that's something that only we're able to comprehend

01:06:09.760 because we're mortal and we we live within this prison of a world because it's temporary because

01:06:14.580 we're only so then how could we ever decide what god needs or doesn't need

01:06:18.040 because he informed us through through scripture that's what he tells us yeah that's what he tells

01:06:22.880 us about himself so like let's listen let me ask you a question let's say if the whole world

01:06:27.180 stop worshiping god does that change the greatness of god

01:06:30.340 no no i don't think so i've seen a few funny movies about that we we agree on that that's

01:06:40.460 why we say that do do we feed god or does god feed us i mean we wouldn't be able to eat if god

01:06:51.980 didn't create everything no no i understand so i mean god feeds us and we don't feed god god

01:06:57.560 clothes us we don't clothe god so that's what that's what we're saying that god we need the

01:07:02.580 creator the creator doesn't necessarily need us that's the point that i'm trying to get to you

01:07:08.160 understand what i'm saying so i'm gonna go over the description one by one right so one and

01:07:13.660 individual what if he needed to power his ai huh i'm sorry i'm sorry i said what if he what if he

01:07:23.980 needed us to power his ai i'm just fucking around but i just think it's funny like how could we know 0.94

01:07:32.900 if he didn't need us well like i said he informs oh how could you know if he didn't need us i mean 0.96

01:07:38.660 i think it's logical like it's logical but you buy stuff you don't need i guess you i guess people

01:07:43.960 buy stuff they don't do you like do you like would you create something you didn't need

01:07:48.700 but that's we're not the same as god like we we can't apply our thinking and our our and that's

01:07:57.640 actually getting into the definition right so because remember i'm gonna go point by point

01:08:01.660 right and then i want i want you i want to know your input as i go point point one so let's say

01:08:06.480 the first one was god is one and indivisible which you agree on right god the sustainer

01:08:13.700 needed by all which you agree on right that everyone needs god right everyone needs the creator

01:08:19.480 correct yes yes okay and he has no children meaning we're not the children of the creator

01:08:30.680 we are the children of adam and eve and we're the creation of the creator and the relationship

01:08:36.940 between the creation and the creator is far superior than the relationship between a father

01:08:43.340 and a son like imagine how much a mother loves her child almighty god loves you a hundred times

01:08:49.980 more than that he created the the quality of love in the human being you think his love doesn't

01:08:55.660 surpass that uh i love my dogs a lot i don't know yeah it's all good i love dogs too hell yeah i

01:09:05.460 love dogs i like the big ones though i like the rock yeah it's huge dogs oh i like the big dogs

01:09:09.860 like that yeah i like the big dogs huge bro are they on a perk how do i used to have the pet wolf

01:09:15.400 bro i love dogs they're in my bed how do you feel about that i mean i don't know i mean i mean my

01:09:22.120 my idea like because for me i had a pet wolf and i was told not to allow uh the wolf in the bed

01:09:29.160 because it's it's a dominance issue you know what i mean so that's what i learned i'm in charge 0.99

01:09:34.120 about here your wolf must have just thought you were a or something damn bro damn i guess i guess 0.98

01:09:42.200 i'm totally with you no they know i'm boss i read the dog bible and it said not to have the 0.99

01:09:47.880 of dogs in your bed like it messes up the hierarchy you know what i'm saying

01:09:50.720 yeah not for me i mean i can tell i can tell bro what's the boy or girl this is a girl and that

01:10:00.540 one's a boy oh that's beautiful my other girl is my other girl is in the she just likes it's her

01:10:05.080 little alone time she's in the room oh she does like being in the bed with them huh yeah i love

01:10:10.100 my dogs okay no that's awesome right i think i think you can say because he said does god need

01:10:14.180 our love or need our worship i think god doesn't need anything because that would make god dependent

01:10:20.220 upon something the almighty creator is not in need of anything because god is immortal god is 0.97

01:10:25.060 almighty why why did he do this shit bro why did he do this that's up for that's his creation he 0.98

01:10:32.120 did it because because he can because he yeah but also look his life is beautiful because there's 1.00

01:10:38.920 a because but he's saying why did he do this but you're forgetting all the good things that

01:10:42.860 happen you're acting like there's not good things that happen on earth too no no no no no that's not

01:10:47.220 what i'm talking about i'm not saying it's like a bad way i'm just saying like if you didn't need

01:10:50.440 something why would you get it i don't know but it's not us so we can't it's not it for us to

01:10:59.900 to say right yeah well let's let's continue that goes back to the first conversation we had about

01:11:05.020 where it was written and how it's written and how we determining what was said or what wasn't said

01:11:08.700 in the right way and how do we know it was said in the right way because we can't know because

01:11:13.420 you're not god no but it clearly comes from something divine like the miracles and evidences

01:11:18.000 it just it could not be of human revelation because the human would not be able to know

01:11:23.100 what was in the quran and how it's maintained like nothing is even disprovable to this day

01:11:28.140 of the quran and like the scientific miracles like how did like how did uh muhammad peace 0.66

01:11:32.520 upon him know before germs right we had the theory of germs what is it like 600 years after

01:11:38.260 the quran was revealed and it says in the quran that we're supposed to bathe ourselves five times

01:11:42.060 a day it gives an actual routine about how to wash and protect yourself before people knew that germs

01:11:47.520 were damaging it could kill you we're like the black wash your time wash your hands the black 0.99

01:11:52.460 plague wiped out europe because they weren't washing properly how would prophet muhammad know 0.99

01:11:57.320 about germs before the science was even there for it like that's the type of evidences where it's

01:12:01.980 like okay there must be something uh there's some has to be some sort of revelation there and then

01:12:07.220 also the quran talks about that the plants have genders that there's male and female plants and

01:12:13.120 this is 1400 years ago scientists figured that out 100 years ago that there's ideas of male and

01:12:18.600 female gender also the quran talks about the clouds that the weight of the clouds before they 0.87

01:12:24.260 didn't know that clouds weighed millions of tons yeah the quran over 1400 years ago it spoke about

01:12:29.420 the weight of the clouds that weighs millions of tons right and there's nothing holding it from the

01:12:34.400 bottom and nothing holding it from the top and this is a sign that the creator has created for

01:12:39.300 you to know that there is a creator and that you are his creation that he doesn't need but he made

01:12:47.780 anyways i mean he doesn't need us as far as like let's say if we didn't exist it doesn't change

01:12:54.180 his greatness like you just agreed to like let's say if all human beings he didn't hold on a second

01:12:58.580 hold on if he if we didn't exist it doesn't change his greatness what are you basing that

01:13:06.120 off of because that's like it's almost baseless in that conversation in of itself like if we

01:13:11.140 didn't exist it wouldn't change his greatness there would be we wouldn't even have an idea

01:13:14.920 of what the greatness was or wasn't if we didn't exist well did you just agree that let's say all

01:13:20.840 human beings if we start worshiping the creator it doesn't change the greatness of the creator

01:13:25.200 correct no but what i'm saying is we just asked if we weren't created then there would be no

01:13:32.660 existing there would be no greatness in a sense of what we're speaking to because we're speaking

01:13:37.000 to greatness in a sense of our perception of what life is and how we view it and how it exists in

01:13:41.600 our world so we would have no perception of that whatsoever so how are we saying god doesn't i'm

01:13:51.580 not saying god needs me to be here and i have to be with my dog and have to make youtube videos

01:13:56.080 and make money i'm not saying that but just to think that god doesn't need us and it just

01:14:00.240 none of it makes sense why would why are we here i know but you're forgetting the answer

01:14:04.460 i think he's thinking that god doesn't love us he loves us but no no no i don't i think he

01:14:10.100 wouldn't have made us if he didn't love us yeah i think the the best answer is that god has the

01:14:14.480 capabilities and the power to create he's going to use his power and create he's going to if he's

01:14:20.640 almighty immortal creator and has the power to create mortals and create a world of course it's

01:14:26.780 going to happen of course he's going to use the capabilities uh the unlimited capabilities that

01:14:32.580 he has to create people to give people free will or also this he has the powers if he doesn't use

01:14:39.200 them then there's no point yeah that's the point that's the point i'm making is that then he would

01:14:46.800 need us because there's no point otherwise right in this conversation it's not a need of dependency

01:14:50.940 it's not a thing of dependency or necessity it's uh it's a capability if you have the ability to

01:14:58.300 do this then he should do it especially because it's not there's nothing wrong about it and he's

01:15:04.580 able to yeah it seemed like he didn't like the aspect of like god not needing us i think that

01:15:09.840 bothered him a little bit no it's not really that god i understand his question he's like

01:15:14.700 Yeah, I understand.

01:15:15.380 He's saying, what's the point?

01:15:16.340 Like, why create us?

01:15:18.240 I think it's out of law.

01:15:20.520 It's because you know that this is the best way of life,

01:15:22.940 and this is giving us the tests and being able to pass them.

01:15:25.960 And we wouldn't have the opportunity to enjoy paradise.

01:15:28.260 You know, that's going to be forever,

01:15:29.580 and then we're going to eventually be with God in paradise.

01:15:31.880 That's what paradise is, is being with the creator,

01:15:34.220 the one that created you.

01:15:35.120 But you only deserve that after you pass your test in life.

01:15:39.020 Because let's say, do you believe everyone deserves God's love?

01:15:44.700 i don't believe i believe everyone deserves god love but i don't believe everyone does

01:15:50.020 the things necessary to receive god's love yeah you gotta work for it by doing the right thing

01:15:57.360 that yeah that is a good question i didn't think about it that way before but i think just the best

01:16:01.120 way to answer it is that he has the capability to and he wants people to be able to pass the test

01:16:07.520 and he wants people to be able to deserve eternal paradise but it's not out of necessity god is not

01:16:13.900 dependent on on anything we are dependent we're dependent on food water air everything that god

01:16:18.060 created in order to survive we're dependent on the fact that we don't even know if we're going

01:16:21.480 to be alive tomorrow maybe uh i can get in a car crash or maybe your dog will bite you in your

01:16:26.120 sleep and you never know if tomorrow's not guaranteed you know it's all so i and i hope

01:16:32.000 your dog doesn't no no my dog can i show you because i you like the um the quranic miracles

01:16:38.540 you want because like the major thing earlier was about if it comes from god or if it's man

01:16:43.820 made so right i don't know how do i make how do i make oh i see it it says okay so here the quran

01:16:49.600 contains several verses interpreted as scientific miracles regarding oceans including the barrier

01:16:55.120 between mixing salt and fresh water deep ocean darkness and internal waves and the proportion

01:17:00.060 of water to land so he got the proportion of water well mohamed didn't write it obviously but if he

01:17:05.040 did he got the proportion of water to land exactly which in this description was not found out it

01:17:11.000 wasn't known at the time so that must be incredible luck or he was a scientist beyond

01:17:16.240 the capabilities of that time at all the quran describes a forbidding partition between meetings 1.00

01:17:21.380 bodies of water fresh and salt preventing them from transgression like the difference between

01:17:25.400 freshwater lakes and saltwater oceans which correlates with modern findings on estuaries

01:17:31.140 and oceanographic density interfaces so he knew like in the quran it says specifically

01:17:38.400 about how fresh water and salt water can't interact the same way like the the difference

01:17:44.520 between lakes and oceans stuff that was not found out until marine biologists hundreds of years 0.98

01:17:50.160 later he lived in couldn't we have this same sort of conversation about like shit the mayans figured 1.00

01:17:56.660 out like a bazillion years ago too where they were like spot on with weird ass shit as well 0.99

01:18:01.000 yeah but they found out about it through man-made discovery the difference the difference is that 0.97

01:18:06.820 way uh the difference is this was revealed to him in a way where he didn't do any of the discovering

01:18:13.460 this was revealed directly to him this is not from his own research he wasn't out there like

01:18:17.660 searching the waters or anything it was he lived in a desert right the saudi arabia is uh is

01:18:23.500 completely surrounded by sand and he's knowing things about the ocean that people didn't find

01:18:27.600 out till hundreds of years later the difference between societies discovering things and something

01:18:32.660 being revealed to you that that's the time when i learned that about the chronos like whoa bro

01:18:41.540 like there's no how would he have known that because i had the same you know blockades i'm

01:18:46.700 like yeah it could have just been a written book just like the bible or or other texts

01:18:50.480 stuff like this it has to come from something divine

01:18:53.160 yeah i don't know i wasn't there i was there i'd tell you guys bro i swear to god 0.96

01:19:01.660 yeah we trust you man i would tell you real shit man but but let's let's finish let's finish what 0.94

01:19:10.060 the description that we're talking about right so god one indivisible right he has uh no children 0.98

01:19:16.140 nor was he born and there's nothing like him so this is what we believe is uh as a sort of a

01:19:22.620 description of the creator that we're unlike the we're unlike the creator in any way shape or form

01:19:29.260 right so like for instance like everything we have it has limits to it for instance the eyes

01:19:34.040 like if i asked you to see through the walls you can't see through the walls if i asked you to jump

01:19:38.020 100 feet you can't jump 100 feet if i asked you to bench uh four plates you can't yeah i could do

01:19:45.440 that you know so like god is limitless and we're full of limitations so i understand you said that

01:19:53.460 your identity of god is love but like we like we discussed that love it needs to have certain

01:19:59.060 barriers because then some people will take it too far you understand what i'm saying and that

01:20:03.880 god is not just love because obviously the people who don't do what god wants you to do then there's

01:20:09.680 also wrath involved too like let's go over the 99 names of god you know what i mean so you know the

01:20:14.820 the names and attributes of the creator like this i this tells you um you know uh yeah this tells

01:20:22.720 you like the different qualities of the creator that he's the most just he's the most compassionate

01:20:27.420 he's the most loving you know the overseer the protector the guider you you know um you know

01:20:33.620 these are all different qualities of the creator it's not just that's the best definition than

01:20:39.120 that what i'm way deeper than that what i like is not because the word god is being so overused now

01:20:44.220 they say like so many people attribute it to themselves i like saying the creator because

01:20:49.920 that's a specific definition also something that that you and i agree on is that the the almighty

01:20:54.740 the creator must exist we can't have come from nothing so there must have been something greater

01:20:58.980 so the the best way there are 99 names the most merciful the almighty but the creator specifically

01:21:06.660 i think that's the best direct definition of god

01:21:09.780 yeah i would agree yeah can i can i show you like one little you might find it like silly but this

01:21:17.380 was i remember like a couple years ago i was like thinking like you um this this stuff was like i

01:21:22.900 I don't know if you can see the shared screen.

01:21:24.240 Can you?

01:21:28.540 Nothing popped up yet.

01:21:32.280 It did before.

01:21:34.280 Oh, there it is.

01:21:35.300 Yeah, so these, I don't know,

01:21:36.720 you've never heard the Quran you said,

01:21:38.680 but this is, when I first heard it,

01:21:41.500 it's something divine.

01:21:44.080 And, you know, I want to watch the recitations,

01:21:45.760 like maybe next time or something.

01:21:46.920 Okay, yeah, whatever.

01:21:47.740 Yeah, nothing's by force.

01:21:48.540 Nothing's by force.

01:21:49.340 What I like about it,

01:21:50.160 here's uh someone was playing uh asura from the quran look at the the way like animals react to

01:21:55.360 it you know because humans like it could be manipulation but when i saw this i'm like okay

01:22:00.080 i don't know if this is talking about a sound yeah

01:22:10.320 why are they playing music

01:22:21.600 they all come they all come right to the car

01:22:29.360 this is just this could just be a frequency thing this would just be a frequency thing

01:22:35.820 oh hold on he cut out one second yeah they're laughing some people are finding that stuff

01:22:39.800 ridiculous but i i thought there's a there's um wait couldn't it just be a certain frequency

01:22:46.700 hold on a second i can't hear you my fault can you hear me 0.68

01:22:52.760 okay yeah yeah we're good could i just be a certain frequency and how's our truck exactly

01:23:02.680 like the but the frequency of it and the the way it sounds like what i don't think that they'd be

01:23:08.400 attracted to the frequency that's in you know about like the frequency of music in 432 hertz

01:23:12.660 how a lot of rap music is programmed specifically at those hertz to all right perfect example like 0.59

01:23:17.840 you go to a concert doesn't that look like worship like the way like the whole crowd and

01:23:21.960 the way people like are bowing down to the idol on stage i mean that's what music is that's what

01:23:26.340 music is yeah it's uh it's a form of uh of idol worship um this free the frequency for this is

01:23:36.180 makes people react differently like the way people react when you maybe i don't know like

01:23:41.040 after the call if you could i can send you like one of my favorite reciters if you want send me

01:23:45.440 some bangers i'll send you like there's some heat bro shake doseri is like that stuff touches the

01:23:50.060 so i promise you all right can you can you do me can you listen to to that um and then like just

01:23:54.940 let me know after like if you feel anything yeah see if it has an effect yeah because it had it

01:23:59.100 as soon as i heard it uh yeah that's my favorite uh the difference is like the way you're good i

01:24:05.980 love stuff like that yeah i love yeah it's just that immediately had an effect maybe i should

01:24:10.180 have showed that video people are laughing but like the way look at you've been in a club when

01:24:14.040 they play sexy red right and it goes ski and it goes i'm looking photo look how people immediately

01:24:19.380 shift right music has an energetic change it has a vibrational frequency like you mentioned

01:24:24.220 it makes people act in a certain way the frequency that you hear in the quran i i would love to see

01:24:30.820 you describe like what you feel and what that's like compared because we've all been to the club

01:24:35.600 except warner i mean dude i used to spend i used to be a bouncer yeah i i started off as a bouncer

01:24:43.040 and then i was a bodyguard this guy has a fucking chain on we know he goes to the club yeah i know 0.98

01:24:48.700 i spent majority of my life yeah that's not that's not a secret yeah yeah yeah it's not the worship 0.98

01:24:55.500 of cows just showing like what does the chain say it says the warner the warner it says your name

01:25:01.340 yeah because i i identify myself as the warner i warn people about the truth so it's up to you

01:25:07.240 to accept it or reject it it's between you and god but i'm going to deliver are you idolatizing

01:25:11.380 yourself huh good question are you idolatizing yourself no no no absolutely i'm not no one to

01:25:17.780 i'm not i i even say i'm not anyone to look up to or any way shape or form we already have our

01:25:23.840 role models which are the prophets of god those are the perfect role models for mankind i'm just

01:25:28.600 simply here to deliver a message to american people because i understand american people i

01:25:33.080 was born and raised in la i spent my whole youth around americans so like i understand american

01:25:38.080 people a lot of times in order to give uh the message to people you have to understand the

01:25:42.400 people a lot of people don't understand american people american culture and then they want to

01:25:46.360 talk to them and you know teach them about things but if you don't understand the people how can you

01:25:51.020 properly you know give the message to them so that's just oh that's all it is it's very simple

01:25:55.360 and my message is very simple that there's one god that only god is worthy of worship to not

01:26:00.360 worship the creation and only worship the creator that's my main message that i give to the world

01:26:05.320 and i started it in in la that's why i mainly uh teach people about the oneness of god that's my

01:26:11.580 main message i'm not here to push anything else my main message is something that everyone could

01:26:16.160 agree on. That there's only one creator, which

01:26:18.120 you agree with as well, and there's only

01:26:20.080 the creator's worthy of worship, not his creation.

01:26:23.020 And the only religion 0.91

01:26:24.180 that actually does that is Islam.

01:26:26.040 Like we said, Islam just means submission 1.00

01:26:28.140 to God. The only system

01:26:29.820 that was created to do

01:26:31.960 exactly what God wants for you to do

01:26:33.900 is Islam.

01:26:36.720 And that's why I believe

01:26:38.300 that this is the best message to push.

01:26:39.900 What did you say, Brad?

01:26:41.640 No, I didn't say anything. I was just trying to

01:26:43.640 do a good show.

01:26:44.900 they're saying they want to hear it like on the stream would you prefer like uh on stream or

01:26:50.240 off stream what uh like one of my favorite reciters uh oh no i'm gonna i'm gonna listen

01:26:57.980 to it in private yeah i'll send you um here's my favorite one but yeah good to catch up with you

01:27:04.720 again i'm not trying to like force anything on you just i know that you like having these

01:27:08.600 conversations i think that they're important probably it'd probably be just like learning 0.76

01:27:12.400 i love learning yeah that's dope bro just shit i don't know you know i like people's perspectives 0.76

01:27:18.560 i like to understand people yeah i'm gonna come uh i'm gonna pull up to la soon but we gotta we 0.54

01:27:23.120 gotta link up yeah we have a good we'd have a good podcast for sure let's do it and um uh great to

01:27:30.880 have you on hey but brett let me just recite three verses for him bro real quick he already said he's

01:27:37.680 cool with it i know he wants to hear my i don't think i don't want to i don't want to force anything

01:27:44.640 on him bro it's not my force we're just informing it's just informing he knows nothing's by force

01:27:49.200 bro he's a big ass dude ain't nobody forcing him to do let him listen let him listen 0.63

01:27:53.520 off stream bro yeah i'll do it but can you send it to me on discord yeah yeah i'll send it to you

01:27:59.280 right now uh catch up soon man it's always great to have you on w brad in the chat talk soon bro

01:28:04.480 Yeah, I love you guys.

01:28:05.380 Peace, bro.

01:28:05.660 Thank you guys so much.

01:28:06.400 Peace.

01:28:06.700 Nice meeting you, bro.

SHNEAKO - March 03, 2026

Bradley Martyn is Curious about Islam

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