SHNEAKO - Clavicular and SNEAKO Sit Down With James Fishback

00:00:00.000 I saw you went shopping earlier. How'd that go?

00:00:02.360 Good. We went to Hugo Boss.

00:00:04.540 Copped these suits right here.

00:00:06.380 So what do you think?

00:00:07.960 I think it looks good.

00:00:09.260 Appreciate it.

00:00:10.000 Nico, where's your tie?

00:00:11.800 No tie this time. I wanted to differentiate

00:00:14.000 a little bit.

00:00:16.320 It's more Scarface Miami looking.

00:00:18.100 I'm going for a Vice City look.

00:00:20.640 You got the clean fade, too.

00:00:22.020 Yeah, you came down to...

00:00:23.600 It's going to be cold in Miami tomorrow, so it's already chilly there.

00:00:26.620 It is. Are you from Florida?

00:00:28.820 Yeah, I'm from there.

00:00:30.000 I grew up in Broward.

00:00:30.940 It's about an hour north of where you guys are in Orlando right now.

00:00:34.100 Broward.

00:00:34.780 Nice.

00:00:35.700 That's the hood, right?

00:00:36.620 Yeah.

00:00:37.540 That's pretty much, yeah.

00:00:39.340 Pretty much.

00:00:40.820 I was one of only two white kids in my entire high school senior class.

00:00:45.180 Oh, shit.

00:00:46.120 Okay.

00:00:47.080 So you got the pass.

00:00:49.680 I think I have the pass.

00:00:50.940 I haven't used it, but I think I have.

00:00:52.880 You probably don't if you're running for office right now.

00:00:55.120 No, doing double down.

00:00:57.460 You've doubled down everything.

00:00:58.700 everything else you double down i think like i don't think i mean you know if you're gonna if

00:01:03.640 you're gonna do the ho tax right if you're gonna do the the only fans syntax you might as well just

00:01:07.560 go all the way can you explain that a little bit so i i see that uh some of them are upset that you

00:01:13.700 want to impose a tax on only fans creators 50 called the the bop tax the ho tax what is this

00:01:20.380 it is 50 of everything that people like sophie rain make for the simple reason that we want to

00:01:27.220 stop them from doing it. And so the best way to do it to stop them is to create a tax that's so

00:01:31.780 high, Sneeko, that they don't even want to do it in the first place. And so look, what thought

00:01:35.880 stands for is these hoes owe taxes. Okay. And what I said is that I'm going to take this money and

00:01:41.980 improve our school lunches, something that Michelle Obama promised to do and never actually

00:01:46.240 got around to. But look, Sophie Rain owes the state of Florida $42 million. If she's going to

00:01:50.800 be a resident here, if she's going to go around and sell her images on the internet, we want a

00:01:54.760 cut of it or if she wants to stop doing it she can stop doing it those are her choices

00:01:58.640 give us our taxes or she can quit only fans and do something actually dignified right but i'm

00:02:05.620 seeing her argument is that this is going to affect the poor women who just need only fans

00:02:11.060 money to go feed their families yeah but would that i don't buy the up would that really

00:02:16.800 decentivize people that much like even a 50 tax which is how profitable it is i think it probably

00:02:23.820 would cloud i think if you say look if a girl's making let's just say two grand a month and now

00:02:29.400 you say well actually you're going to only make one grand a month and you could normally make

00:02:35.220 you know fifteen hundred dollars a month just working a normal dignified job then yeah you

00:02:40.080 probably would just quit doing only fans the idea is to take down the earnings you would make on

00:02:44.440 only fans so you can actually do something that produces something of value but let's be honest

00:02:50.620 typically a suffering produces no value true it's just true it's just true and i think the

00:02:58.600 problem is that you got a lot of young women who say you know what i don't want to be a mom anymore

00:03:03.060 i don't even want to try anymore i'm just going to hoe out on only fans and then you hear this

00:03:07.700 excuse i don't know how many women have you met any women clav in miami who are actually starving

00:03:12.100 if they didn't do only fans their kids would starve no yeah that's obviously right and so

00:03:19.040 that just becomes the argument they go to. I mean, look, if there are people who are

00:03:22.540 genuinely starving, we don't let them sell their kidneys to pay the rent. If people are

00:03:27.220 genuinely starving, we don't let them sell off and rent their kids out so they can pay

00:03:31.640 their electric bill. If you genuinely have a need, then we should take the money away

00:03:35.500 from the legal immigrants who came here under Biden and give it to people who actually need

00:03:39.460 it. But this idea that a woman needs to sell her body on the internet, look, if you want

00:03:43.140 to do that, that's fine. But we have taken our cut to support the services across the

00:03:47.220 state that we have to fund. Why not just ban OnlyFans and porn in general? So I think I would

00:03:54.320 support that. The problem is the First Amendment does pretty clearly, as it's currently interpreted

00:03:59.180 by the Supreme Court, does protect that kind of obscene degradation. So it's much easier. I'm with

00:04:05.280 you, by the way. So I think I would much rather say that the rough back of the envelope math is

00:04:10.880 that Florida could collect $200 million a year in the 50% OnlyFans tax. That's real money.

00:04:17.220 But I would much rather collect $0 a year with this tax, which means that all of these women just give up on it and go do something actually meaningful and worthwhile instead of hoe out on the internet.

00:04:26.580 And if they did that, then we would actually have a system that says, look, we're going to give up the tax revenue.

00:04:31.240 Now, when you do that, you stop the flow of new content, right?

00:04:36.220 And that is, it's not a ban, but it's pretty darn close within our legal framework to do a ban.

00:04:41.440 I mean, I would love to ban pornography.

00:04:43.580 I actually don't think it's protected by the First Amendment.

00:04:45.500 The First Amendment is actually about political speech.

00:04:47.880 I think when a lot of Republicans said that students who were protesting for the Palestinian cause,

00:04:53.320 they essentially caked their groups off campus because they didn't agree with their speech.

00:04:57.940 That's what the First Amendment is for.

00:04:59.060 It's to protect people, even those you disagree with.

00:05:01.880 But it's not about protecting people from making those kinds of videos on the Internet.

00:05:06.700 And, I mean, I'd love to ban it, but I think this is a much better fix that would stand up to the courts.

00:05:10.740 just uh play devil's advocate a little bit because i and you know this is just me genuinely

00:05:17.300 wondering because i'm not you know the most well-versed uh in like all the economics of it

00:05:22.720 but wouldn't that lead to like a lot of economic migration just to other states and then you lose

00:05:28.260 that on all the current revenue that you know we're already getting from the taxes or would it

00:05:32.580 just yeah go ahead it's it's a good point i mean yeah i think that almost is is a feature as opposed

00:05:40.840 to a drawback right so if sophie rain says i want to keep doing this but i'm going to move to georgia

00:05:45.500 or california that's fine move we don't we don't want you here right we're not getting any revenue

00:05:49.960 from her today if she wants to leave and do it somewhere else that's fine but we have to be proud

00:05:55.200 of our state. And I think we're the content creator, OnlyFans capital of the world. Like

00:06:03.860 Miami single-handedly, Florida definitely, but Miami is the OnlyFans capital of the world. And

00:06:08.700 you can't throw a rock in downtown Miami or Miami Beach without hitting one of these OnlyFans

00:06:12.580 so-called models. I know Cloud feels about it. I can't even call them models. They're

00:06:16.560 so-called models, right? Because they don't actually meet objective beauty standards,

00:06:19.900 but they go out there and they do this you know um the cloud knows all the terms right

00:06:26.740 you can get into all the technical physiological language but i think if sophie rain wants to

00:06:33.120 leave our state because we want to tax her then she can go she can just leave we don't need her

00:06:37.660 here that badly right so one way or the other we're going to get that we're not going to have

00:06:41.360 any revenue as it stands today if we pass this and she wants to leave then get out that's fine

00:06:45.960 But I think that what kind of state do we want?

00:06:48.860 I want to exemplify a state where women are actually doing something,

00:06:52.060 like most women are doing something productive.

00:06:53.700 99% of women are actually doing something productive with their lives.

00:06:56.560 Whether they're working at a clinic, whether they're a nurse, a teacher,

00:07:00.220 a stay-at-home mom, whatever it may be.

00:07:02.180 I think, Sneeko, that the society that we've gotten to today tells a young girl

00:07:07.360 that, you know, you don't have to aspire to greatness anymore.

00:07:09.900 You're not capable of greatness.

00:07:10.900 You can just sell your body on the Internet.

00:07:12.440 If you can't pay tuition this year, or you struggle to pay your bills or move out of your parents' place, the solution is not to work hard or to get a dignified job.

00:07:21.540 The solution is just to hoe out on the Internet.

00:07:23.560 What kind of country says that?

00:07:25.660 Like China.

00:07:27.160 Say what you want about China.

00:07:28.360 I'm not going to glaze the Chinese communist government.

00:07:30.620 But China doesn't let other people do this.

00:07:32.900 Certainly, the Arab world doesn't.

00:07:35.380 Let's go.

00:07:36.320 I mean, seriously.

00:07:38.760 Say what you want about Saudi Arabia.

00:07:40.300 There are no women hoeing out on the internet in Saudi Arabia.

00:07:43.340 And there are other debates and disagreements we can have with these Muslim countries.

00:07:47.600 But I think that what the state of our women says a lot about what we prioritize in life.

00:07:54.220 I mean, and a lot of these women, they need father figures in their lives.

00:07:57.900 You got to feel bad for Sophie Rains.

00:07:59.860 I mean, with all due respect, you got to feel bad for her parents that she's doing this.

00:08:03.360 Maybe her mom has a Chanel bag and has a nice car.

00:08:05.900 But what kind of society are we creating where 20 years ago it would be unthinkable that thousands, tens of thousands of women in just this state are putting up nude images in the name of doing something worthwhile?

00:08:23.320 Okay.

00:08:24.700 Yeah, no, I understand your reasoning.

00:08:26.520 It seems like a pretty good idea.

00:08:28.140 I like how it's even a positive thing, the way you phrased it, if they just decide to get out.

00:08:33.440 so we're collecting no tax revenue whatsoever from i didn't know that these of models yeah

00:08:39.620 no tax revenue okay yeah because zero state taxes wow okay interesting and even the platform

00:08:45.940 even the platform of only fans is collecting like 20 of the uh gross revenue sure and let's not talk

00:08:54.320 about let's not get in trouble talking about who owns that platform right and look be careful

00:08:59.940 We know that they give money to AIPAC.

00:09:05.640 This is where.

00:09:08.420 Literally the largest donors to AIPAC.

00:09:10.460 And, you know, we just had a couple more billion dollars to Israel today.

00:09:14.080 The House passed that.

00:09:14.880 I don't know why.

00:09:16.100 What's going on?

00:09:17.320 Israel has free health care for all of its citizens.

00:09:19.240 They have abortion on demand.

00:09:21.040 Why do they need more of our money?

00:09:22.820 I think, too, if you think about it, to your point, Claude, about the tax revenue,

00:09:29.200 We call it a syntax because it actually does have an effect on society and the state beyond just the women.

00:09:38.180 Think about all the men who are subscribing to this and can't get a real relationship because their brain is hardwired in such a way.

00:09:45.680 I had a guy message me the other day on X.

00:09:47.460 He said, he sent me all these screenshots of Sophie Raines' account, DMing him, enticing him to send her more money.

00:09:55.340 This is a guy who probably makes $35,000 a year.

00:09:58.560 he works at Walmart

00:09:59.900 and you have

00:10:01.420 Sophie Raymond

00:10:02.060 wonderful Indian

00:10:03.120 right messengers

00:10:04.360 emailing a guy

00:10:05.860 saying hey

00:10:06.960 hey I really miss you

00:10:08.740 you're one of the guys

00:10:09.480 that I really care about

00:10:10.240 it's freaking cringe

00:10:11.340 it's manipulative

00:10:12.340 it's a scam

00:10:14.000 yeah

00:10:14.900 dude I'm ironing

00:10:16.500 that you know

00:10:16.820 the Indian pill

00:10:17.620 for the chat

00:10:18.080 a lot of people

00:10:18.540 are not aware

00:10:19.100 that it's an Indian

00:10:20.080 guy typing

00:10:20.880 well you'd think

00:10:21.680 logically like

00:10:22.400 how do people expect

00:10:24.360 that these like

00:10:25.000 OF models

00:10:25.740 are typing

00:10:26.200 sitting there

00:10:26.680 like typing to them

00:10:27.480 like what are you

00:10:28.240 fucking it's raj and yeah right by the taj mahal so it's raj and sandeep bro like fuck yeah

00:10:34.280 they're not wearing shoes they're sitting there not wearing shoes i know you have the same message

00:10:41.640 i always say like because sometimes like the only fans girls will come on stream and i love to just

00:10:46.080 like drop that i'm like so what country do you use to like exploit like third world like people to

00:10:52.200 to do your chatting for you they're like oh i do it all myself oh got it so uh india so

00:10:57.840 you know yeah i mean i fully support that i saw a video today there was an indian guy the ai is

00:11:02.300 now improving where you can move around and then the ai reflected so it's an indian guy just acting

00:11:07.580 as a white only fans girl so for this to if you were to be elected to prevent this from spreading

00:11:13.980 even more i think is more crucial than ever i can't believe this stuff is still legal true yeah

00:11:20.480 Yeah. It's one of those things where, you know, what are we doing? Like, let's take a step back. Like, imagine you told Benjamin Franklin and Thomas Jefferson, Sneeko, that the year is 2026. It'd be the 250th anniversary that our founding fathers declared independence.

00:11:39.180 and yeah so what is the state of 19 year old women in america right now what is the state of them

00:11:45.620 are they moms are they lawyers has there been a female president yet no there's uh you got 19

00:11:51.260 year old girls doing back shots on only fans posting photos for all these guys to do and look

00:11:58.300 if you want to do that i guess the first amendment protects your right to do that we can get into that

00:12:01.700 legal argument i think as the courts understand it today it does but if you actually challenged

00:12:06.100 it and we have a good Supreme Court now because of Trump, but in the same way we tax things

00:12:11.600 like cigarettes and alcohol, we can debate all those taxes too low or too high, but you

00:12:15.900 do it because you want to disincentivize, you want to deter people from doing that stuff.

00:12:19.960 If you raise the price high enough on the so-called OnlyFans creator, she has no choice

00:12:25.040 but to say, you know what, I'm not willing to do this at half price.

00:12:28.440 That's what happens, right?

00:12:29.460 If we take half of the money, she says, I'm going from making $5,000 a month to making

00:12:33.440 2,500, I might as well go back and work at the dental clinic as an assistant. And that's good

00:12:39.220 for everybody. At least they're producing something. At least they're contributing to

00:12:43.840 society. Right. I think the problem too is the way we measure the production of value in our

00:12:52.560 society is totally twisted, right? So what does GDP mean, right? Well, if GDP is measured by how

00:13:01.800 many people are addicted to pornography or addicted to gambling or sports betting that is not a good

00:13:07.540 value of economic growth and you know to get too deep but in 1960 half of 30 year old men were

00:13:15.600 married and owned their home literally half today it's less than 15 percent of 30 year old men are

00:13:21.940 married and own their home so think about that the average guy today you ask a 22 year old today hey

00:13:27.120 do you think you'll be able to own a home zero shot zero shot it's a pipe dream and that used

00:13:32.260 to be normal right and you got private equity you got black stone and black rock you got foreign

00:13:37.120 nationals coming in and if you complain about the foreign influence in our country they just call

00:13:41.760 you anti-semitic and kick you off the internet true thank you for saying that so how much money

00:13:46.840 did you take from apac so far what's your apac tracker looking like the apac tractor is coming

00:13:52.220 in at a precise zero dollars and zero cents you go i'm not taking a penny from any foreign

00:13:57.100 government least of all that foreign government what what israel has done with our tax money in

00:14:02.140 our name it's disgraceful it is absolutely disgraceful and this is not about jew this or

00:14:07.580 jew that is about netanyahu being a depraved warlord essentially and we feel this influence

00:14:14.300 in florida there was an israeli delegate today there was a conference in miami this guy goes

00:14:18.380 up there his name is shabbos or whatever and he goes up there at the jerusalem post conference

00:14:23.220 in miami not too far from where you guys are and says we must stop james fishback from becoming

00:14:27.680 governor what was the reasoning there because i'm anti-semitic because i won't take money from

00:14:34.480 apac yeah and you got my vote yeah you got my vote i mean is there anybody else running who

00:14:44.000 has not taken an APAC money no everybody else has taken money from the Israel lobby you know

00:14:49.280 my opponent Byron Donalds he's known by many we call him APAC Shakur because that's that's what

00:14:56.540 he does right and he called me a slave the other day he called me a racist rather for calling him

00:15:01.780 a slave because dude if you're going to take he's taking 45 million dollars in the race from APAC

00:15:07.780 corporate donors private equity guys from out-of-state hedge fund guys what is a guy like

00:15:12.700 that taking 45 million dollars and he said it was racist to call him a slave no i called him a slave

00:15:17.120 because he's a slave the fact he's black has nothing to do with a slave a slave cloud according

00:15:22.580 to the miriam webster dictionary is someone who acts in the interest of someone else someone who's

00:15:27.000 controlled by somebody else why would you give byrone donalds 45 million dollars yeah exactly

00:15:32.620 i want to i want to see this guy's sat score he's not very smart well dude you kind of use like the

00:15:38.280 same strategies i do with like just insane reaction baiting by saying shit like that

00:15:43.760 so i'm kind of iron you know and you also double down on it so it's like it's it's all

00:15:48.920 sounding pretty good to me from a strategy standpoint at least but how are you doing in

00:15:54.000 the race you know we're doing good i'm second there's four people in the race i'm second in

00:15:58.340 the polls still really early on but you know i'm not i'm not the biggest fan of zoran but

00:16:03.080 But I was reminded today that Zoran was polling at 1% this time last year.

00:16:10.680 And now he's the freaking mayor of New York.

00:16:12.000 And you can disagree with the guy, but you've got to respect the hustle.

00:16:14.980 You've got to respect Zoran's hustle.

00:16:16.380 Even Trump does.

00:16:17.360 Trump seems to like him quite a bit.

00:16:19.500 They talk.

00:16:20.300 Look how happy he was when he made the visit to the White House.

00:16:23.700 Have you seen Trump that happened before, Sneak Up?

00:16:26.740 Like, he was beaming.

00:16:29.380 He got a huge photo op.

00:16:30.880 He paraded him around.

00:16:32.220 He was smiling.

00:16:33.080 Yeah, he seemed to really get along with him.

00:16:36.880 Yeah, and you remember that part where the journalist asked him,

00:16:40.040 Hey, Zohan, do you think that President Trump is still a fascist?

00:16:43.460 And then Trump cut him off.

00:16:44.300 He said, you can call me whatever you want.

00:16:45.820 Yeah.

00:16:47.000 It was like this long-lost energy.

00:16:48.980 He's never looked at J.D. Vance like that.

00:16:51.860 Do you think J.D. Vance is subhuman or what?

00:16:56.280 I do agree with you in all the sense that society is always going to be better looking people.

00:17:01.260 I think that in a head-to-head matchup, I would see Gavin actually winning that just on looks alone, honestly.

00:17:06.380 But looks, presentation, confidence, all of that.

00:17:08.680 Charisma, yeah.

00:17:09.480 I mean, Gavin's very charismatic, too.

00:17:12.380 Very.

00:17:13.460 Yeah, it's not looking good for the replacement part.

00:17:15.860 It's not looking good.

00:17:17.260 Yeah.

00:17:17.900 What was your experience like with Michael Knowles?

00:17:20.060 Did you enjoy that?

00:17:21.500 Yeah, I don't think he really knew kind of anything about Mick because a lot of his producers were fans of mine.

00:17:27.840 Like, I was taking a lot of photos, you know, behind the scenes with people.

00:17:30.860 they're like oh we've been like trying to get you on for a while like we finally convinced like

00:17:34.760 michael or whatever so i think they probably just like showed him a few clips he's probably sitting

00:17:38.940 there like oh this guy's just like some retard like who hits himself and does math uh and then

00:17:44.020 we actually had like a pretty serious long-form combo um where maybe some of like the politics

00:17:49.440 and stuff like that was not expected i guess you could say so but yeah i thought michael was a nice

00:17:56.440 guy so can't complain about that i got a couple more uh political uh you know appearances coming

00:18:03.340 up soon so we'll see what happens how do you how do you think about politics i think most people

00:18:08.140 look at kind of you're thinking it's largely optics aesthetics but do you think about kind

00:18:13.300 of political world too i do yeah i think it's a little silly and you kind of went about it in a

00:18:19.000 really unique way almost similar to trump but like taking it a step further like yeah it is

00:18:24.800 silly it is a little bit jester and you're kind of like you know doubling down on that like ho tax

00:18:29.980 and like using a lot of the you know zoomer terms like glaze and stuff like that like you're taking

00:18:37.060 it for what it is and and that's honestly admirable so i kind of like this uh new like

00:18:42.340 appeal to just sort of the new voter base the younger guys yeah well i think a lot of the young

00:18:49.580 guys and gals they they voted for trump in 24 and they didn't vote for all this real stuff

00:18:57.520 i mean that's what just pissed a lot of people off i mean how many times has netanyahu been here

00:19:01.640 since five times in the second term dude and you know you don't you don't live here as you go but

00:19:08.400 i do i'm a florida resident are you actually yeah i didn't know that driver's license is florida

00:19:15.860 Yeah, this is my apartment in Miami.

00:19:18.540 I'm becoming one.

00:19:19.240 I didn't forget to know that.

00:19:19.920 Oh, you're actually, oh, that's cool.

00:19:21.060 Yeah, just I stay in New York quite a bit, mostly, but yeah.

00:19:24.420 Okay.

00:19:27.520 So Netanyahu was here two weeks ago, and they shut down everything.

00:19:32.640 Turnpike, 95, everything for this guy.

00:19:35.680 I was actually, just by sheer coincidence, at the same hotel that he was at, the Four Seasons in Palm Beach.

00:19:41.700 You had to go through metal detectors.

00:19:43.540 they searched your car every time you came on and off property there were u.s coast guard boats

00:19:49.580 right off of the atlantic ocean because the hotel is on the beach we are paying for that we are

00:19:55.660 paying for this guy to come here and ask for billions more dollars to fund his stupid pathetic

00:20:00.760 war and if we try to call it out the anti-defamation league says that you know we are engaging in hate

00:20:08.360 speech or whatever and i think that's the issue is that people voted because they wanted a breath

00:20:13.340 the fresh air but that just it feels like sometimes they haven't gotten that especially

00:20:16.140 on the israel question yeah it's almost admirable how good the guy is at playing the game you know

00:20:23.360 that's what i always say on my show he plays the game really well and he's done a lot of time

00:20:27.880 netanyahu in the u.s he actually went to cornell for grad school he speaks perfect english just

00:20:32.080 perfect he's a great speaker you got to give him credit where credit's due but he's been able to

00:20:36.120 really

00:20:36.760 build trust

00:20:40.100 of a lot of people in the White House.

00:20:41.640 And it's not because...

00:20:44.560 Trust or maybe it's blackmail.

00:20:45.920 I don't know how deep you want to go, but how much

00:20:47.840 of this... J.D. Vance

00:20:49.640 specifically brought him up. In 2021,

00:20:52.160 he was demanding to release the Epstein

00:20:54.020 files, and now that's just been

00:20:55.320 pushed under the rug.

00:20:58.780 That's a good point.

00:21:00.280 How deep do you think it goes?

00:21:02.800 Well, obviously, I think

00:21:04.000 Epstein was a blackmail operation for Israel.

00:21:06.120 You know, I think there was foreign intelligence. A lot of the people in the White House in D.C. are open about that. But what country did he have? I mean, who is Jelaine Maxwell connected to? What was the intelligence agency that he worked for?

00:21:18.340 yeah

00:21:21.380 the Epstein thing doesn't make any sense

00:21:24.220 this guy

00:21:25.600 was not particularly smart

00:21:28.140 and just became this world

00:21:30.020 renowned financier

00:21:31.440 hedge fund guy

00:21:32.640 I watched a video with someone that I actually know

00:21:35.960 but he said he was a currency trader

00:21:38.080 and I was too for a long time

00:21:39.920 at a hedge fund

00:21:40.600 and he remembers meeting Epstein

00:21:42.820 15-20 years ago and tried to talk to him

00:21:45.740 about currency trades

00:21:46.560 the guy knew nothing about currency trade

00:21:48.600 Absolutely nothing.

00:21:50.000 That was just a front.

00:21:51.340 Like, you could size somebody up really quickly if they said they, you know, were in a particular industry that you were in and you could talk to them for five minutes.

00:21:59.100 Like, there's no way this guy knew anything about.

00:22:00.600 And he was a billionaire.

00:22:01.460 We were just at the mall and I was telling Claude, Victoria's Secret is founded by Les Wexner.

00:22:05.180 That was his financier, one of the richest Zionists in America.

00:22:08.640 He lives in Ohio.

00:22:09.620 I want to learn more about your policies besides just the ho-tax.

00:22:14.640 What else can we expect voting for?

00:22:16.660 You're not taking APAC money.

00:22:17.700 that's that's enough for me you know that's that's the most important issue but what else

00:22:22.180 could we expect if you were to be governor so for me the number one thing is affordability

00:22:28.960 my family's been in florida for four generations and my literally my own parents had to leave the

00:22:34.480 state because they couldn't afford to live here anymore and so i think that a lot of people say

00:22:39.180 yeah florida's the best state in the country florida's best state in the country that's that's

00:22:42.340 true but that doesn't mean anything that the people who made it the best state in the country

00:22:45.960 can't afford to live here anymore homeowners insurance is insane auto insurance is insane

00:22:50.780 property tax rent tolls literally everything and so if i'm going to do one thing it's how can i

00:22:58.240 literally bring down cost and i don't mean cost in the well inflation was five percent last year

00:23:03.680 and now it's only three percent no we actually have to bring down costs and bring up take-home

00:23:10.800 pay because we can't continue to live like this i mean people ask me all the time does does a

00:23:15.060 certain country have a right to exist how about this americans have a right to exist in their

00:23:19.300 own country americans have a right to exist without being replaced by illegal aliens by h1b visas

00:23:24.460 to not have their homes bid up from under them from blackstone or from black rock or from airbnb

00:23:29.700 and so i'll say something that i i don't think most political people say is snego if i run and

00:23:37.320 i win well i'm already running but if i win and i don't make your life more affordable do not vote

00:23:43.140 for me for reelection in four years full stop i only want to be judged on one thing can i make

00:23:48.800 your life more affordable and there's a lot we can do at the state level to not just say hey

00:23:54.400 life is going to get less unaffordable no life is going to get more affordable and whether that's

00:24:02.620 i was talking about this this morning with our team we're going to push out a policy to eliminate

00:24:07.180 all the sun pass tolls for florida residents why why are we getting overtime on everything

00:24:12.400 I know people who literally do not take the turnpike

00:24:14.560 but take the back roads to get somewhere

00:24:16.260 because they can't afford the $5-$10 toll

00:24:18.180 and that adds up really quick

00:24:20.040 if you don't pay them, they send them to your mail

00:24:22.100 they make sure you pay that sunpass

00:24:23.840 I'm not going to lie, I've never paid that shit

00:24:26.400 so yeah

00:24:28.820 but how about this

00:24:30.760 why don't we meet the tourists

00:24:33.280 who come here, why don't they pay it

00:24:34.700 you want to rent a car, why don't you pay the sunpasses

00:24:36.640 for your car, raise it on them, double it on them

00:24:39.040 who cares, they're still going to come here

00:24:41.400 It's 12 degrees in Washington, D.C., 10 degrees in New York right now.

00:24:45.260 We have pricing power.

00:24:47.160 We can raise the SunPass rates.

00:24:50.540 We can raise the tax revenue that we charge tourists and give massive tax cuts to our own people.

00:24:55.840 We obviously don't have an income tax, so we can't cut there.

00:24:58.860 But we can deliver tax relief for people like working families.

00:25:02.740 And what better way to do that than tolls and auto insurance and all of that?

00:25:05.800 So for me, the biggest thing is how can young people, young men in particular, how can they feel like they can get ahead again?

00:25:14.220 Because right now they have no shot, right?

00:25:16.420 I met a young guy the other day, didn't study gender studies or black intersectionality or whatever.

00:25:22.120 Goes to FSU, top of his class in computer science.

00:25:25.580 He's applied now, Claude, to over 200 jobs in computer science.

00:25:30.820 He has literally a 4.0.

00:25:32.460 He can't get a single job, but these are the same companies that are bringing these H-1B foreign Indians to do the work at half off.

00:25:39.600 Well, yeah. I mean, that's just more of a federal issue, to be honest.

00:25:45.000 It is, but actually we can do something at the state level, which is we can just tell these companies,

00:25:49.840 if you're going to hire foreign workers, we are going to fine you up to the amount that you would have paid the American worker

00:25:55.760 so as to disincentivize them from hiring the foreigner.

00:25:59.680 they're not hiring the foreigner because the indian is smarter certainly not because the indian is

00:26:03.880 better but because the indian is cheaper literally i mean it's 72 percent of all of these h1b visas

00:26:12.580 are indians yeah no you're right i mean look marco rubio just froze all the visas from so many

00:26:17.640 countries like 50 countries the one country that's not on that list india is not listed so

00:26:21.320 he is saying the indian the indian but they clearly look how open they've been with h1b

00:26:25.700 they're 100% okay with

00:26:27.760 more immigrants coming from India

00:26:29.140 yeah they're not hiring H-1B's from the

00:26:31.980 Congo to do tech support

00:26:33.600 he's right

00:26:34.020 I mean well and then you cut off the H-1B's

00:26:38.420 these computer science kids are going to be

00:26:39.980 fucked by AI one way or another so

00:26:41.900 I wouldn't say

00:26:43.100 I think long term that's something

00:26:45.860 we have to figure out but right here

00:26:47.940 right now it's the old joke

00:26:50.020 is the AI is not taking your job

00:26:51.820 not artificial intelligence AI

00:26:53.520 but another Indian is taking your job

00:26:55.580 that ai i mean seriously right because a lot of these jobs i mean ai is here but when i talk to

00:27:04.260 these kids whether it's fsu uf ucf anywhere in the state they're literally seeing the fact that

00:27:11.600 their jobs because you can look at the public petitions for what companies do h1b so amazon

00:27:16.080 laid off 30 000 americans last year and they hired 10 000 indian h1b so it's not like they're

00:27:21.080 downsizing the entire company they're downsizing the white men and then they're hiring the indian

00:27:26.320 men because the indian men will work for cheaper and if the indian men screw up they'll just say

00:27:30.140 we're going to fire you and deport you which is a pretty powerful piece of leverage over your

00:27:33.740 over your employee base true yeah so it sounds like uh got a lot of problems to work out on the

00:27:40.460 economic side but do you have anything more like social that you're kind of campaigning off of

00:27:45.540 You know, I mean, I guess the hoe tax is more of a social issue.

00:27:49.000 It's both.

00:27:49.440 Yeah, yeah.

00:27:52.020 Yeah, so I think it's all connected because, you know, I don't view economics as, well, he wants to make more money just to make more money.

00:28:02.040 You want to make more money and you want to be able to buy a home.

00:28:04.660 So right now, in Miami-Dade County alone where you guys are, half of all home purchases are from foreign nationals.

00:28:11.440 So you've got a family who's about to get married, you know, husband, fiancés, about to get married, and they put in a bid on a house and they get outbid by $500 from someone from Argentina or Mexico or China or Venezuela, wherever.

00:28:27.580 and so we why are we letting a foreign national buy a single family home outbid them that home

00:28:35.660 was supposed to go to those guys so they could get married have kids start a family do what life is

00:28:41.400 all about and so i kind of view the the economic and the social issues as connected because if

00:28:46.420 you're letting blackstone or foreign nationals buy up our homes that means we can't buy them

00:28:52.140 and you know this if you can't buy a home can you really get married if you can't get married

00:28:57.340 can you really have kids and if you can't have kids what's the point so the economic and social

00:29:01.320 issues sadly are connected and i think you talk about affordability well literally everything is

00:29:06.580 unaffordable if you don't have a job and if you don't have a job because we're bringing in all

00:29:09.920 these foreign workers even though clove is right it is a federal issue i'm not going to throw up

00:29:13.980 my hands and say you know what the trump administration or the biden administration

00:29:17.360 did the h1b thing and therefore i have to just lay down and take it no there are tons of things

00:29:22.000 that we can do at the state level to disincentivize and deter the use of h1bs and i'll probably do it

00:29:26.480 because i'm not fighting for the indians i'm fighting for the actual people of my state let's

00:29:30.200 go you know the indians can go back and make their country great and it's funny when they they they

00:29:36.500 can't come over here they're like oh the indians are stranded where in india that's where they're

00:29:40.160 from in india right and if they're so seriously if they're so smart then why is india such a

00:29:44.380 backward country like why is it if india is so technologically scientifically and medically

00:29:49.300 advanced why is it that if you get street food you're in the hospital for three months

00:29:53.160 How is that possible?

00:29:54.560 Got her oil pill.

00:29:56.120 That's what I would say.

00:29:58.620 You know what I mean?

00:29:59.460 I want to ask you, you mentioned earlier about how different you are from Mom Donnie,

00:30:02.740 but the policies you're bringing up about affordability,

00:30:05.380 that was the major selling point of his campaign.

00:30:08.460 That's why so many young people voted for him is because, you know,

00:30:11.040 he addressed the problem that you're bringing up.

00:30:12.700 Gen Z right now, average debt's $94,000.

00:30:15.160 Then people who are 30 years old, less than 10% of them are married and are homeowners, right?

00:30:20.300 And you mentioned boomers, like people in the 60s, it was over 50%.

00:30:23.300 It seems like you're tapping into a lot of the same issues that he was mentioning.

00:30:27.240 Also, like raising the taxes on OnlyFans girls, like that's something he was saying.

00:30:31.340 It's like, let's raise the taxes on the – what really is the differentiation?

00:30:38.040 Well, I use the fork to eat a Chipotle ball.

00:30:40.540 He doesn't.

00:30:41.360 Okay.

00:30:41.700 He eats with his hands.

00:30:43.120 He doesn't eat his hands.

00:30:44.220 No, so I think the difference is he wants more government support.

00:30:51.500 So think about things like freezing the rent.

00:30:54.300 That's actually something that we can't do in Florida because Florida is the state.

00:30:57.500 The government is not the owner of all of these apartments, right?

00:31:01.960 In New York City, there actually is a housing authority that does all of these apartments.

00:31:05.080 You can have full control over that.

00:31:06.160 I think that, yeah, I think where Momdani and I would agree is that affordability is the number one issue.

00:31:12.040 and that's literally all we've agreed on.

00:31:13.560 How we're going to get to that is very different.

00:31:15.460 I mean, this is a guy who has said nothing about the H-1B issue or the Blackstone issue.

00:31:19.920 I don't think the solution is government-owned grocery stores.

00:31:22.300 I think the solution, you know, for all the Cubans and Venezuelans and Miami,

00:31:25.480 ask them if they want government-owned grocery stores.

00:31:27.700 They literally fled their country with nothing to escape that.

00:31:31.140 But for me, I think that the way you would tackle affordability

00:31:34.720 is you actually have to bring down prices in real terms.

00:31:38.280 You can't just say, well, things were going up by $10 a year

00:31:41.420 now they're only going up by five no they should actually be going down and you know the truth is

00:31:46.700 that if every price in the economy doubled but your take-home pay tripled would you complain

00:31:55.740 and say that life is unaffordable true real right so it's not that things have gone up like let's

00:32:02.380 just get real things are going to go up over time that's just the nature of economies right prices

00:32:07.020 go up over time. The problem isn't that prices have gone up. It's that how much take-home pay

00:32:12.140 you have on your pay stub has not kept up pace with everything else, right? If everything became

00:32:17.920 a million dollars tomorrow, but we all became billionaires, none of us would be complaining.

00:32:22.660 It's the fact that prices have gone up by so much, but the amount of wages that we have

00:32:27.680 has not kept up the pace. And so I think you tackle affordability from both ends. And I haven't

00:32:32.160 seen Zoran talk about it that way, which is he only wants to bring down actual prices. I want

00:32:37.000 to do that but i think the other lever of the affordability issue is how do you actually bring

00:32:43.640 up wages there are still 1.4 million illegals in our state and they work at half the rate double

00:32:49.720 the hours they don't speak english so when you have that much of your labor market that is cheap

00:32:54.600 foreign slave labor you bring down the take-home pay for everybody else and you actually take jobs

00:32:59.960 that would have gone to people at a different market rate so i don't believe in a government

00:33:03.800 a mandated minimum wage system where you know mondani would want to government raise that

00:33:08.000 and force you and intervene but i think that you know the lie that americans won't do these jobs

00:33:13.820 that's just a lie americans will do these jobs if you pay them an honest wage right i don't it's

00:33:18.540 like oh america i could never see americans pick strawberries who do you think picked strawberries

00:33:21.960 for 99 of american history up until the last you know 10 20 like really like who picked strawberries

00:33:27.900 It was white, black, American men.

00:33:30.740 It wasn't Mexican farmers, crop pickers in the 1920s and 30s.

00:33:36.600 The reason why is because I think if you took the random guy in downtown Miami in Brickell and said, hey, we're going to pay you $30 an hour to pick strawberries, they would be picking strawberries in Homestead right now.

00:33:47.120 But we've gotten so used to paying people $4 an hour to pick strawberries that, oh my gosh, the economy is going to collapse.

00:33:53.980 Well, in many respects, the economy is artificially propped up.

00:33:57.100 is inflated by all of this cheap labor.

00:33:59.960 Oh my gosh, corporate profit margins will head lower

00:34:02.520 and stock prices will head lower.

00:34:04.360 Well, guess what?

00:34:05.080 The stock market's at an all-time high,

00:34:06.580 but ask the average person down there,

00:34:08.060 do they feel it?

00:34:09.020 Do they feel the stock market?

00:34:10.360 Who cares?

00:34:11.120 Who cares about GDP?

00:34:12.080 Who cares about the stock market?

00:34:13.460 If 30-year-old men can't get married and own their home,

00:34:16.400 who cares if you can't afford groceries?

00:34:17.840 Who cares if you're getting kicked out of your house

00:34:19.220 because you can't pay your property tax bill

00:34:20.660 or you can't afford your rent anymore?

00:34:22.520 That's the issue.

00:34:23.320 And so I think the big distinction

00:34:24.340 between our campaign and what Zoran did

00:34:26.280 is that he was just talking about affordability in terms of the prices of goods and services.

00:34:30.660 We are talking about affordability in terms of that, but also how do we bring up real wages

00:34:36.120 long-term, right? Because if we can bring up 25, 30% pay over four, eight years, then we will have

00:34:43.360 actually solved affordability long-term. And affordability, not like, oh, you want to make

00:34:48.240 more money because making more money is cool. No, you want to make more money so you can stop

00:34:52.500 living in your basement and you can actually go out and get married and have kids so you actually

00:34:57.080 can support yourself and do something that has to your point earlier bob about social and economic

00:35:01.740 is if you can't afford to move out of your house if you're trapped in living with your parents

00:35:07.420 then good luck having that social benefit of getting married of dating of feeling like you

00:35:12.860 can settle down with a woman and have kids what would you say the appeal is for young men to you

00:35:20.400 know opt to get a house rather than like a c8 corvette you know it's a good point um i don't

00:35:28.680 know so i think i'll tell you this it's a lot easier for a guy you know it's a lot easier for

00:35:35.940 a guy to get a corvette than it is to buy home just because the way the financing system works

00:35:40.120 right you can get a guy with like a 550 credits for who could walk into a dealership right now

00:35:44.980 and sign over at mom and a leg and get a sports car.

00:35:48.460 But on the news, it's actually usury, right?

00:35:50.980 On usury terms, the problem with home ownership

00:35:53.080 is it's so hard to qualify for a mortgage.

00:35:54.760 It's much easier to qualify for financing a car

00:35:59.800 or financing a watch or whatever.

00:36:01.580 I mean, these are the guys, by the way,

00:36:02.880 who abduct 12 months of child support

00:36:04.740 and they go rent a $1,000 Ferrari

00:36:07.160 and ride around Miami Beach all day, right?

00:36:10.120 So part of it is culture,

00:36:11.280 but part of it is the economic system

00:36:12.580 that actually makes it really easy

00:36:13.980 to finance a car

00:36:15.120 that you can't afford.

00:36:18.420 120-month car financing schedule

00:36:20.800 for a Corvette

00:36:21.560 or whatever the case is,

00:36:22.580 a Porsche.

00:36:24.020 And so I think part of it's cultural,

00:36:26.020 but part of it is

00:36:26.580 it's actually really easy

00:36:27.520 to finance a car

00:36:28.200 versus to get financing on a home.

00:36:30.440 I mean, think about it this way.

00:36:31.660 I know.

00:36:32.040 If you go into a business

00:36:36.360 and say,

00:36:37.840 no matter what my business is,

00:36:39.800 I am going to get

00:36:40.520 the same rate of return.

00:36:41.560 I'm going to get

00:36:41.920 the same interest rate.

00:36:42.820 Like, you would never agree to that, right?

00:36:44.980 So if you're going to want to start, what business do you want to start deep down, like brick-and-mortar business?

00:36:50.320 I want to start a media company and a film company, so maybe where there's a film studio.

00:36:55.120 Let's go.

00:36:56.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:36:56.820 Myself.

00:36:57.440 Let's bring Hollywood and make it based again instead of putting porn in every movie and propaganda.

00:37:03.660 Would you have LGBTQ characters in your Hollywood films?

00:37:06.680 I'll leave that for Netflix and Stranger Things.

00:37:08.400 My movies are going to try to uplift a little bit.

00:37:11.560 I'm going to put a ho tax in my films.

00:37:13.460 Do you support abortion, James?

00:37:15.800 I don't.

00:37:17.140 Okay.

00:37:17.540 What's your reasoning for that?

00:37:19.440 So my reasoning is that Jeremiah chapter one, verse five, which says before you were born,

00:37:25.020 I set you apart.

00:37:25.840 I believe that life begins at conception as a Catholic, as a Christian.

00:37:28.840 And so my view on abortion is that women who face an unexpected pregnancy, men need to

00:37:34.980 take responsibility and women need to be met with compassion and patience and resources.

00:37:39.480 You think about it today.

00:37:40.600 A woman walks into a Planned Parenthood and says, I would keep the baby if I could just have access to child care.

00:37:47.740 And the guy says, no, ma'am, all we offer is murder.

00:37:50.020 I'd keep the baby if I could have access to diapers and baby food for the first six months.

00:37:54.660 No, ma'am, all we offer is murder.

00:37:56.240 I'd keep the baby if I could have prenatal, postnatal vitamins in health care.

00:38:00.300 No, ma'am, all we offer is murder.

00:38:01.920 And so I think a lot of women are being exploited by the abortion industry.

00:38:05.420 you're being told that you know an unexpected pregnancy is the worst possible thing that could

00:38:10.000 ever happen to you it's it's not it's literally not you're going to be okay we as a state can do

00:38:17.140 a lot better i think being pro-life doesn't mean just banning abortion it means actually supporting

00:38:22.080 women and i wish republicans would stop screwing around and actually do things like paid maternity

00:38:26.680 leave you can't be pro-life and not support women taking off of work to raise their children right

00:38:33.440 And they're like, well, where are we going to get the money for paid maternity leave?

00:38:36.200 Where'd you get the money for the $5 billion you sent to Israel this week?

00:38:39.560 How about you just, how about you stop at that and you give them the money, right?

00:38:42.900 Because you can't say you're pro-life and then say, well, there's no money for women

00:38:46.980 who want to take three months and raise their child at home.

00:38:49.260 So that, that's my view on, on that.

00:38:51.840 And what would you say?

00:38:52.520 Because if you're getting pushback, because whenever you criticize all the money we send

00:38:55.720 to Israel, they'd say anti-Semitic.

00:38:58.220 That's like a marginal amount of money.

00:38:59.920 I mean, you think about, like, the federal budget, like, not even trying to, you know, counter signal what you guys are saying, but that's, like, a very minimal amount.

00:39:08.040 The money sends Israel?

00:39:09.060 Yeah, in, like, the grand scheme of things.

00:39:11.560 And people will take this, like, $5 billion to Israel and be like, oh, we're going to do this, this, and this.

00:39:15.720 It's, like, realistically, like, that's not an amount of money that's going to move the needle in any direction.

00:39:23.040 I mean, I guess I disagree.

00:39:25.160 To counter signal the counter signaler.

00:39:28.020 Someone got the call.

00:39:29.480 To counter-signal the counter-signaler, I would say $5 billion is a ton of money.

00:39:34.280 It's a ton of money.

00:39:36.660 And we can break in all the examples.

00:39:38.440 You could do this for the homeless.

00:39:39.660 You could do this for health care.

00:39:41.040 Look, I think Israel can take care of itself.

00:39:43.620 Any country that gives its entire base of citizens free health care should not be getting a penny from us.

00:39:50.060 Right?

00:39:50.280 I mean, that's just my view.

00:39:51.340 And so the principle of it is like, I mean, if a billionaire asked you to borrow $100 every single day,

00:39:58.120 I think all three of us could afford to lend somebody $100 every single day for a month.

00:40:02.920 We wouldn't tell the billionaire, like, oh, it's actually an inconsequential amount of money for us.

00:40:08.000 Like, no, this guy is clearly self-sufficient.

00:40:10.220 This $100 could be used for something else.

00:40:12.420 I think when we have this mindset that it's only $100 million, it's only $5 billion, it's only, and then it becomes only $15 billion, and then it becomes 10%, 20%, 30% of the budget, then where do we draw the line?

00:40:22.480 What would be, respectfully, but what would be the amount that would actually go into territory that becomes significant for you?

00:40:30.340 Yeah.

00:40:30.700 Okay.

00:40:31.160 I guess that's a fair question.

00:40:31.700 Especially Trump is flexing that he got $1.8 billion from the oil in Venezuela.

00:40:35.360 And so then the next day, what did they say today?

00:40:37.940 $5 billion sent to Israel?

00:40:39.140 So it's like this regime change and this invasion was for less money than we're sending to Israel every week.

00:40:45.740 Yeah.

00:40:46.160 No, I mean I don't support foreign aid, obviously.

00:40:48.800 but um i just hear like all these outrageous like programs in place of of uh israel all the time

00:40:56.120 like you know the four and eight i'm like guys like you know the math doesn't add up here

00:40:59.960 necessarily just from a realism standpoint yeah yeah you're right i think it's a low iq argument

00:41:06.460 to look at literally any expenditure and be like do you know how many homeless vets we could house

00:41:10.120 with that money i mean it's true do you know how many puppies we could you know shelter with that

00:41:14.200 it doesn't fix the issues it doesn't but i think that look even if we had a balanced budget even

00:41:24.360 if we weren't borrowing a trillion dollars a year from from the chinese communists even if we had

00:41:29.400 all the money in the world does it still make sense to send five billion dollars to a regime

00:41:34.060 that this past summer literally bombed the catholic church and never took responsibility

00:41:38.000 that is responsible for a famine of tens of thousands of people right so even if we had

00:41:43.420 all the money in the world that it was totally inconsequential would we still send it to them

00:41:47.160 on principle right my question like the guy who's like you know who's a christian who's

00:41:52.420 who's against abortion and says well there's there's there's 500 000 abortions at any given

00:41:58.700 period of time and my abortion you know this abortion of my wife or my girlfriend is is such

00:42:04.520 an inconsequential relative to the denominator of all the other abortions no it's it's still

00:42:10.680 cruel and that's right i think you don't look at it and say well how does it stack up five billion

00:42:15.280 dollars is a lot of money and your points to go to trump talked about the 1.8 that was a ton of

00:42:19.660 money there but the 5.3 for a lot of these people uh is they brush it off as trivial so and what

00:42:25.860 would you say because if they're saying that you're anti-semitic for not taking apac money

00:42:29.540 there's a lot so many jewish residents in miami and maybe they're worried about their safety you

00:42:34.160 heard some of that pushback in new york what would you say to address that you know that criticism

00:42:39.180 well i would say that i'm gonna always enforce the law for anybody no one should be a victim

00:42:44.460 of any kind of assault or discrimination whether they're christian muslim or jew

00:42:48.680 but i gotta be completely honest with you i see way more anti-christian discrimination and hate

00:42:53.760 in our state in our country than i do anti-semitism just truthfully right and the problem

00:42:57.920 too is what do you mean by anti-semitism right because florida law was changed a couple years

00:43:02.500 ago that anti-semitism state statute 10105 anti-semitism can actually be defined as

00:43:08.260 criticizing the israeli government so if you have a kid who says that netanyahu is a war criminal

00:43:12.860 there's a lot of people who would say that that is anti-semitic if you said that israel committed

00:43:17.380 to genocide whether you agree with that or not it's irrelevant but if someone says that israel

00:43:21.760 committed to genocide i mean that's not anti-semitic right how could that be anti-semitic i think i

00:43:27.720 think most people almost everyone is opposed to jew hatred like we're opposed to muslim hatred

00:43:33.740 like we're opposed to christian hatred but this idea that criticizing netanyahu or saying what

00:43:40.700 happened in gaza is disgraceful that can't be anti-semitic and so i'm always going to protect

00:43:46.280 jewish floridians muslim floridians christian floridians but i'm not going to fall for this

00:43:50.840 lie that criticizing the israeli government is somehow hate speech you want to criticize russia

00:43:55.240 be my guest you want to criticize ukraine and that money laundering scheme be my guest and hey

00:43:59.360 if you want to criticize netanyahu and call them criminals be my guest that's your free speech right

00:44:03.280 James I liked everything you you said it was great to finally get to speak to you after seeing

00:44:09.560 your social media storm you've created recently yeah you're doing good yeah man I appreciate it

00:44:15.700 guys thanks for the opportunity what is uh what is one thing what is I guess I think we agree on

00:44:19.940 a lot but I'm curious what is one thing we might disagree on just and what's the reasoning there

00:44:24.280 just be curious to know um I haven't really heard much you know I would just be curious on

00:44:33.100 like all of the stuff with the courts you know for some of these ideas like you know how reasonable

00:44:38.800 is it but i don't know too much about that you know i don't really have too much of a legal

00:44:42.980 background so but you know like would any of us get you know struck down in in the supreme court

00:44:50.340 who knows i have no idea i think my one uh before you respond to clob i've seen clob was talking

00:44:56.200 about how men are also responsible for signing up for only fans it's easy to to finger point and go

00:45:01.720 to sophie whatever and camilla these girls and say like you're evil and i do think that this is

00:45:07.240 you know morally irresponsible but the same time we need to take responsibility and be like young

00:45:11.740 men how could we we're the reason that they make so much money so i think the one thing you didn't

00:45:16.760 address not that i disagree is how do we make young men accountable and how do we you know

00:45:22.100 what's what's the tax for for men how how can we improve yeah that's that's a good point and and

00:45:28.980 it's i think a lot of men nowadays it's really easy to be drawn into this stuff because you're

00:45:37.720 just on instagram or you're on x and it just you're literally shown porn like soft core porn

00:45:42.620 and then you get down this rabbit i mean like a 12 year old could be on instagram not even

00:45:45.820 intending to look at this stuff and then gets drawn into it and you see these accounts that

00:45:49.960 have you know this uh this deduction element to it but no i agree with you i think men are

00:45:55.560 I don't know that they're equally responsible, but they're definitely responsible, right?

00:45:59.520 I mean, I don't know that consuming the content is just the same as creating the content.

00:46:03.160 I think it's all sinful.

00:46:04.140 It's all bad.

00:46:05.120 And look, I think this is where Christians and Muslims will actually agree eye to eye

00:46:09.080 on this.

00:46:09.500 It's like pornography is bad.

00:46:11.300 Commodifying women and objectifying women is bad.

00:46:14.880 And we can make jokes and we can do this, that, and the other.

00:46:17.460 But any industry that would take 20% of women hoeing down and stripping naked and getting

00:46:24.120 in front of the mirror and taking all sorts of weird requests from men all over the world

00:46:28.520 who are living in our state i mean all three of us are florida wrestlers all three of us want

00:46:33.140 florida to succeed all three of us want a state i think where women don't have to be exploited by

00:46:39.380 the owners of only fans to pay for their tuition and like i've got a ton of hate dms from these

00:46:45.140 only fan girls who have said like how am i going to pay my tuition at fgcu which is a school in

00:46:49.800 fort myers i'm like wait hold on a second we need to be able to make sure you can pay your tuition

00:46:54.820 without having to do this disgusting disgraceful stuff right you shouldn't have to be forced if

00:47:02.020 you want to use that word to do this to pay for your textbooks in college right one thing that

00:47:09.900 i've talked about is that you know i don't know if you guys have followed this but dc is negotiating

00:47:14.780 a trade deal right now with China. And part of that trade deal club is that maybe upwards of

00:47:20.620 600,000 Chinese foreign students will now be able to attend our universities as a result of the

00:47:26.660 trade deal. So that could be 150,000 to 200,000 in Florida alone could take spots away from kids

00:47:33.120 in Broward or Dade or Palm Beach that would go to UCF, would go to USF, and now won't be able to

00:47:38.860 because those spots will be handed over to Chinese foreigners as a result of the trade deal.

00:47:42.020 and what I said as governor and I think to your point too

00:47:44.440 it's like what are the courts going to do I don't know

00:47:46.440 but I'm going to try everything in my power

00:47:48.100 is I'm going to raise the tuition of any of these Chinese

00:47:50.440 students to a million dollars a year

00:47:51.900 I don't want them here we don't want them here

00:47:54.660 I mean what how do you take

00:47:56.400 someone who's literally been in the state for 17 years

00:47:58.540 did everything right got good grades

00:48:00.140 black white doesn't matter and

00:48:02.400 say you know what that spot

00:48:03.820 that spot at your dream school in Gainesville

00:48:06.540 or in Tallahassee that spot

00:48:08.420 was just given to a Chinese foreign student and guess

00:48:10.500 what your life's on hold now so you can go out on only fans right so part of it too is what kind of

00:48:15.120 economy is forcing people to live under these conditions where they feel desperate or not i

00:48:19.240 mean only fans is taking advantage of that desperation but there's real economic desperation

00:48:23.960 out there we have to address that too and so when women message me as they have and money

00:48:27.840 called me and left me very angry voicemails and say like how am i going to pay for my kids i don't

00:48:32.200 know that's always true but i think some are genuine how am i going to pay for my rent how

00:48:36.100 I'm not going to help raise my kids.

00:48:38.200 Why are women, why do they feel like they need to turn to this to be able to, we don't

00:48:43.840 want anyone's kids to go hungry.

00:48:45.540 We don't want anyone to be kicked out of their home.

00:48:47.300 And you shouldn't have to pay your rent by doing this kind of stuff.

00:48:52.380 Thanks a lot, James.

00:48:54.020 I wish you the best of luck.

00:48:55.240 And I hope that you don't compromise your principles and you keep that APAC tracker

00:48:58.600 at zero.

00:49:00.000 Keep fighting the good fight.

00:49:01.100 and it's good to see a young Catholic guy like you

00:49:04.000 really make some dents in politics like this.

00:49:07.340 Thanks, guys.

00:49:07.920 I appreciate it.

00:49:08.680 Have a great night, James.

00:49:09.740 Peace.

00:49:10.260 You too.

SHNEAKO - January 16, 2026

Clavicular and SNEAKO Sit Down With James Fishback

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