SHNEAKO - Dave Smith Exposes the truth about Venezuela

00:00:00.000 Like hypothetically speaking, if we could go to Latin America somewhere and just like slaughter

00:00:05.400 a few hundred thousand people, but it would be in our interest. It would make us all a little

00:00:10.060 bit wealthier. Are you saying you're okay with that? Because if you're just saying that like

00:00:13.820 might makes right, first of all, then Israel's completely justified in what they're doing.

00:00:17.860 Actually, if might makes right, then shut the fuck up, bitch, because Israel's just running

00:00:22.460 your shit and stop complaining. Oh, it's so unfair that they control our government. Might makes

00:00:27.120 right motherfucker and they're beating you with that shit so it's so weird to see the people who

00:00:30.980 are out of power you know saying might makes right but also number two and i'm sorry if this you know

00:00:36.580 i understand like you know i know the young audience and all this and i understand that i'm

00:00:40.520 jewish and so me saying this maybe won't land the right way but if you're really going to say

00:00:44.680 might makes right we could just go kill people like let's say this does work out in america's

00:00:49.660 favor there's no blowback there's no catastrophe but we all get 20 cents a gallon cheaper gas or

00:00:56.100 something like that and you're saying we could just kill people to make that happen that's no

00:00:59.760 problem like okay but don't ever call yourself a christian again don't ever fucking tell me

00:01:04.520 you're a christian or don't ever tell me you're a muslim or a jew or any of that shit you're a

00:01:08.180 goddamn devil worshiper dude like come on wait but that sounds like you heard me yeah no i hear

00:01:13.120 you now you're all good oh okay that was like a weird like when uh like you hold up two fingers

00:01:18.200 and stevie wonder sees it you're full of shit dude you're not deaf at all there's a lot of

00:01:23.980 black people who think that he is he is lying about it you one of those people you're you

00:01:27.620 conspiracy theorists about stevie wonder too dude i've never i've i'm aware of that conspiracy but

00:01:33.760 i haven't done the deep dive required to have an informed opinion on it so i don't know i don't

00:01:39.600 know but that would be fucking that would be a that's a gangster thing to live your life fake

00:01:45.160 blind what would be the justification i know i mean that's that's that's real commitment right

00:01:50.220 there i don't know dude i'm not sure what the upside of that is maybe like maybe at some point

00:01:57.400 like in the 70s stevie wonder could just like walk into like a woman's like locker room or

00:02:02.320 something and be like come on i'm stevie wonder i'm just chilling i don't know your guess is as

00:02:07.160 good as mine maybe it's for for entertainment or i'll do a deep dive up there after i finish

00:02:13.680 the charlie kirk schizo world which i don't know if you're lumped in there i mean we we got we got

00:02:18.300 a lot of conspiracy theories to to figure out i'm uh i'm i'm conspiracy adjacent for sure i don't

00:02:26.200 know i don't know how deep i am in them but i'm uh some people are mad at me because i'm friends

00:02:30.440 with people who are conspiracy theorists i don't i don't know anymore yeah there were i saw someone

00:02:35.000 was mad at you because they said that i hate white americans and you're like i thought that's that's

00:02:39.360 why i signed up to do this show no no i said i thought you were a brown white supremacist

00:02:45.500 that's what i found interesting about you if you're just if you're just a brown guy who hates

00:02:49.660 white americans that's ordinary but a brown white supremacist is like okay we got to talk

00:02:54.320 unfortunately not i don't know what anyone means yeah unfortunately i'm not i don't know how people

00:03:00.180 got the idea that i hate white americans but you know there's a lot of victim mentality everywhere

00:03:05.780 i want to see what that guy thinks why does he think i hate white people i don't understand

00:03:10.480 listen man i don't know i don't understand any of it anymore i think it's funny that uh

00:03:14.660 I like, even when I say, I go, you know, he says you hate white Americans.

00:03:18.800 And then I go, no, I was under the impression he's a white supremacist.

00:03:21.920 And I just love that.

00:03:23.140 Like the, the culture that we're in now is that you have to go, no, I don't hate white

00:03:29.140 Americans.

00:03:29.800 Like that's like, that's a worse label than white supremacist is just, it's so flipped

00:03:35.080 on its head from what it was when I was young.

00:03:37.100 I don't know.

00:03:37.480 It's just, it's interesting to me.

00:03:39.280 I think X is responsible for all that.

00:03:41.620 It's like the, that website is responsible for making everybody have to somewhat align

00:03:46.120 with white identity and also the source of all the Grok AI undressing slop.

00:03:51.240 Like this on the same way, have you seen this where now you, if you want a woman to

00:03:55.560 be undressed, you could tell Grok to put her feet up in the air and put her in a bikini.

00:04:00.240 It's so weird, dude.

00:04:01.900 I swear only, I mean, maybe over the last 48 hours, like I've just, this has just made

00:04:07.400 it to me where i see on my you know whatever the algorithm shows me people going hey grok put me

00:04:13.800 in this or hey grok put her in this and uh i don't know you know i don't have any like profound

00:04:21.600 thought on it but i don't think it's good what are we doing what do you even like i don't know

00:04:27.160 do you ever like isn't there something to you and i don't know you're you're younger than me i'm

00:04:31.640 always interested in like the younger guy's perspective on this but like if you saw like

00:04:36.580 even like if there's a picture of like a hot chick in a bikini or something like that and

00:04:40.600 you're like oh that's like a you know just as a dude you're like that's an attractive picture

00:04:44.920 if you found out it's ai doesn't it immediately ruin it like it's like oh that's not real like

00:04:51.640 if it's not real that's oh that's awful no it feels gross it feels wrong like you're it feels

00:04:56.800 like her like you're in a relationship with a robot i stay away from that i don't understand

00:05:01.800 why people find that appealing but you know I don't understand a lot of things anymore

00:05:06.620 yeah yeah me too I feel the same way I saw you were just on Theo Vaughn that was that seemed to

00:05:14.640 be I saw you were you were calling out uh how the the Epstein that whole debate that that pretty

00:05:21.420 much ruined his legacy I don't want to misquote what you're saying but what do you what do you

00:05:26.100 think I'll start with this do you think that have you seen Dan Bongino he was one of the

00:05:30.500 he was kind of like us you know he was probably had a podcast similar to yours he was calling

00:05:35.220 saying that Epstein didn't kill himself and then he joined the FBI we get the documents they're all

00:05:40.020 covered in black redacted markers and then he comes back to podcasting and he seems to have

00:05:45.160 forgotten what he built his podcast on well yeah I talked about this on my show a little bit today

00:05:52.000 but the thing that's the craziest to me right so I I kind of figured after Dan Bongino you know

00:05:59.740 clearly like sold out or whatever that means, or got compromised or got threatened or, you know,

00:06:06.160 whatever that, whatever it is that happened. But I kind of thought like, well, the next logical

00:06:11.860 progression is that, okay, he'll go get some cushy job, you know, on the board of directors

00:06:18.320 at a weapons company or something, you know what I mean? Like, or something at a bank or something

00:06:22.500 like that. Like they always take care of their own. So you do right by them. They'll make sure

00:06:26.160 you're worth 100 million dollars in 10 years but i could not have imagined that they act because

00:06:32.180 obviously look the guy's still working for the regime so obviously i just couldn't have imagined

00:06:37.280 that their their angle would have been no we got to send him back out into the podcast space and

00:06:44.180 in a way you could kind of see where from their perspective it makes sense right because he had

00:06:48.360 one of the biggest shows like he was he was one of the top guys in conservative right-wing media

00:06:55.240 and so they're like dude we're getting killed out there we got to send bongino back out because he's

00:06:59.980 more useful to us you know like it would make sense kind of on a surface level to go he's more

00:07:04.940 useful to us being one of the number one guys because all the number one guys now are like

00:07:09.040 candace and tucker and fuentes and you people who are not well yeah maybe sure i don't like to put

00:07:14.420 myself there but yeah maybe i don't know but like all these guys are like killing us so let me send

00:07:18.860 you back out there to go be but then i see him posting like and it's real vague he hasn't been

00:07:25.240 specific yet but he's he's going after the black pillars and uh and and then he was he he did

00:07:31.500 specifically call out matt gates or whatever they had their back and forth but i'm just kind of like

00:07:35.840 blown away like wait you really think you can walk back here after what you just did and you're

00:07:42.800 gonna be the one who corrals all of us to like oh yeah you're right well we're way out of line

00:07:47.960 dude i mean it's so bad for him right now he's on record saying i've seen the files

00:07:54.720 jeffrey epstein killed himself like look you in the eyes promise that and then

00:08:00.040 like three weeks later the administration turned around and said there's no such thing as the files

00:08:04.800 and then they said if the files come out that'll destroy the political order and then they caved

00:08:11.520 and voted for the files to come out so now the files have been you know declassified

00:08:16.080 where's that proof you were talking about dan you said you've seen it and he killed himself so when

00:08:22.500 do the rest of us get to see it and how he thinks he's going to be able to come back into this world

00:08:27.940 and not deal with that question is crazy to me but it's not going to work i'll tell you that

00:08:33.660 i've never seen it so obvious where they'll send or they'll take in a fed and then send him right

00:08:38.340 back and just bring him to the i kind of feel bad for him i've never felt bad for a federal agent

00:08:42.880 like that but how do you do that he was going he had 150 000 live rumble viewers you know spitting

00:08:49.140 out you know normal trump propaganda on rumble he was the face of the website then he goes to

00:08:53.340 he gets this big government job and you're right they don't really set him up they just say you

00:08:57.560 need to imagine the imagine that meeting where he's told that he needs to go like fuck man like

00:09:03.540 like how do you set up a show what do you talk about who are the guests what are the mental

00:09:09.320 gymnastics you need to go through poor guy well but also just because like you know the whole

00:09:16.280 like you know i was saying this when i was on theo's podcast but then as i was thinking about

00:09:21.280 it afterward it's like what i said on theo's podcast was that look the whole kind of like

00:09:25.400 the the center nucleus the core energy of the trump political movement was always drain the

00:09:32.200 swamp it was like hey there's these fucking criminals in dc and they're screwing over all

00:09:36.300 the rest of us and they get away with it every time they've done all these awful things like

00:09:40.400 lied us into wars and destroyed the economy and framed you know presidents for treason and all

00:09:47.400 this stuff and none of them are ever held accountable but like in a way if you think

00:09:52.380 about it even extending that right that's not just the energy source of the the trump presidential

00:10:00.100 campaigns that's the energy source of all of us like literally all of us like you and me and

00:10:07.620 everyone like everyone who's who's got like a big platform today talking about the government

00:10:13.900 it's like yeah we're all talking about what criminals they all are and how and dan bongino

00:10:18.540 was the same thing that was the that was the center of the power source of his show it was

00:10:22.880 always about like you know russia gate or epstein or whatever joe biden is senile or if you remember

00:10:31.780 he went real hard in on what the hell happened to donald trump when he got shot in pennsylvania

00:10:37.320 that's pretty shady they got this kid who he was allowed to be up on the route he was the one who

00:10:42.620 was saying hey i'm a secret service officer if you remember he was a fed before he was a podcaster

00:10:47.900 and then went back to being a fed but he uh you know that was his energy source too how's he gonna

00:10:54.720 have that how's he gonna try to maintain that now coming out of just this administration a full year

00:11:02.760 and then covering up all the biggest things and not getting us one head like not you know even

00:11:07.980 when like uh they when they tried to indict comey and uh bolton it was kind of off like they didn't

00:11:14.820 really indict him for the major crimes but they bungled the comey one and he got off and bolton

00:11:21.180 is like an unrelated you know classified document case it's like you didn't get us one head of any

00:11:27.840 of the criminals in dc nothing and then not only didn't get us one but then lied through your teeth

00:11:33.580 and told us that oh there's nothing to see here i i don't know man you know making predictions

00:11:39.440 is tough but after where everything's been the last two years like come on like sneak don't you

00:11:44.680 agree this isn't going to work dude this is going to have no effect on the on the culture what's

00:11:50.480 surprising me the most is how many people have switched after venezuela to now support the

00:11:54.900 system that we are all fighting against right like you spelled it out the whole point of podcasting

00:11:59.420 is to criticize the powers that be and try to call out corruption try to to fix this and so

00:12:04.740 many people are now like this is what it is i've never seen so many people submit to the idea

00:12:08.900 that might is right and also in the past two years especially recently since uh charlie kirk's

00:12:15.180 assassination i'm now more apprehensive like how many people are fed like how many people are making

00:12:20.540 backroom deals how many people can we trust it's like i don't know if you've spoken about this i'm

00:12:24.900 not trying to push too many buttons but like erica kirk for example i think the vast majority of

00:12:29.200 people have seen how ridiculous it is that she's doing wwe entrances with fireworks everywhere

00:12:34.360 you've seen the memes where they're saying that she's britney spears showing up on the stage like

00:12:37.720 everybody grieves differently the memes and the memes are so good yeah and she's like twerking

00:12:41.780 next to Nicki Minaj at Turning Point USA but then if you look deeper it's like wait her father

00:12:47.060 was a research director for Raytheon who was contracting missiles for Israel and she was a

00:12:52.800 beauty pageant girl for Trump and she was five years older and she met Charlie Kirk in Israel

00:12:57.320 or saw him there for the first time is a way she effect so what can we trust Charlie Kirk can we

00:13:01.780 how much of this is all part of a bigger operation how many talking heads are really

00:13:07.060 feds talking feds well yeah i mean look there's a lot you just threw at me there and i i do get

00:13:15.000 your point and i didn't know about them meeting in israel that's the first time i'm hearing of

00:13:19.620 that there's many speeches it's kind of shady how the story changes but there's several speeches

00:13:23.860 where she said she first spotted him on a pilgrimage and met and saw charlie kirk in

00:13:28.760 israel yeah well i i will say um number one i did look it's a it's such a weird thing because

00:13:35.540 like even like the last time we talked was like real i think real uh shortly after charlie got

00:13:40.580 killed right and i was yeah and like you know again like i like i told you then i wasn't like

00:13:47.240 close friends with charlie kirk but like i knew him and we texted and we did shows together a few

00:13:51.960 times and so it's like a weird feeling almost where you're like at first i'm like well look

00:13:56.760 this was kind of like my friend not a close friend but like my friend's widow so i could

00:14:01.780 never criticize her because but then like after a while it's like wait wait you're running turning

00:14:06.980 point now you're doing media appearances now you're you're telling us we have to trust the

00:14:12.840 justice department now now you're like kind of stepping into a lane where you don't get to be

00:14:18.680 above criticism and the more and more you do that the more it's just like kind of comfortable to go

00:14:23.820 hey what is going on here this is first of all look the way they've handled the whole thing has

00:14:28.960 been the most tasteless shit i've ever seen in my life it's just disgusting like it i'm sorry like

00:14:34.060 and i know i i try my best to be like charitable and to go like hey you know i'm like a north

00:14:41.900 eastern jew and most of my experience is kind of with like new york people and you know i mean like

00:14:50.060 even like like my wife is catholic but she's like a a new jersey catholic you know it's it's

00:14:56.520 evangelicals in the middle of the country have a different culture than some of us have

00:15:00.160 but you watch like a funeral service and you have you decide like days after this guy got killed

00:15:07.920 to like you're gonna have a mini republican national convention with pyrotex and like all

00:15:13.980 this this is weird dude this is like in really it's not even in bad taste it's fucking tasteless

00:15:19.500 it's and and then just so much of the stuff since then and then i've just seen she's got caught

00:15:25.780 lying like even even just kind of trivial not that important lies but like did you see the thing

00:15:31.040 where like she said um that she didn't date for five years before charlie kirk and she doesn't

00:15:37.360 drink and and then there's like no you're like all over the internet drinking and dating like

00:15:42.460 so okay but like i don't know what are you doing so you're kind of a fake you're kind of you're

00:15:47.320 kind of like not really the christian that you're trying and then just the clear obvious overacting

00:15:54.680 in every performance that she's giving it's very very strange behavior and i don't know what to

00:16:00.780 make of it but it's it is weird and and yeah at a certain point you're like yeah i'm comfortable

00:16:05.480 calling that out now the thing you said i just want to respond because the thing you said about

00:16:09.660 venezuela which uh it's probably like the more important thing right now is and i don't know i

00:16:17.140 don't know who's you know who's a fed or who's not a fed or anything like that but there is i look i'm

00:16:22.920 just i'm 42 and i've been basically like in anti-war uh you know dissident for 20 years

00:16:32.780 and i've just seen this happen over and over again where it's like no matter how much progress

00:16:38.140 you think right wingers are making one thing explodes and it hits like a factory reset button

00:16:46.120 and they're George W. 2003 retarded all over again.

00:16:51.060 It happens all the time.

00:16:54.000 And I will say I'm a little disheartened

00:16:56.780 that there were some people who I thought would be immune to that,

00:17:02.120 like would be inoculated against that,

00:17:03.860 who I see going right in on the same thing.

00:17:07.280 So that to me is a little disappointing.

00:17:10.060 Especially people of your age.

00:17:12.040 So you got to see a lot of the stuff.

00:17:13.680 I grew up in the post-9-11 hysteria.

00:17:15.640 grew up with the war on terror Iraq war this is almost identical right you would think that you've

00:17:21.460 had you know more experience with it so you could probably rightfully say that this is the same exact

00:17:26.380 playbook this is the weapons of mass destruction this is the regime change that's justified and

00:17:31.620 it's it's the patriotic feeling and everybody becomes nationalist because we bomb a brown

00:17:36.500 country is this justified or is this another example of America flexing its muscles and

00:17:44.440 coming off like the world's police and then biting itself in the ass when they realize you have to

00:17:49.080 fund so you have to fund this country non-stop with the spend millions of tax dollars or if not

00:17:54.700 billions to maintain this regime change well you know i i hear a lot what the hawks what what the

00:18:01.620 hawks are saying and not just the hawks but like i don't know what everybody who's supporting this

00:18:05.960 shit isn't it one of the things that's amazing right they'll point out that this is not the

00:18:10.880 same as iraq or libya or afghanistan because that was in the middle east or north africa and those

00:18:15.820 were muslim countries and this is in south america and it's a christian country and it's a different

00:18:20.280 tradition and there's different culture and like okay fair enough it's there this is a different

00:18:25.540 region and a different religion and a different culture and a different race and like there are

00:18:30.180 different factors but it's kind of hard to avoid the obvious comparisons where like number one

00:18:37.960 just look at i mean i know you i i saw you tweeting a lot of great stuff about this nico but

00:18:43.780 like you look at them all hoisting the mission accomplished banner up right away when like

00:18:49.340 nothing's happened it's so bizarre like they okay so we essentially right but um by the way i saw

00:18:56.660 some people gave me shit so i i retweeted one of the tweets you tweeted and then people are going

00:19:00.840 oh look what dave said he because and the thing they were picking on that you said was that you

00:19:05.600 when 80 innocent people were killed and like okay so what they they were saying was like well we

00:19:11.680 don't know the the ratio of like soldiers to civilians and some of them were cubans who were

00:19:18.120 guarding you know the president and like okay so fine even if they want to nitpick about you saying

00:19:22.460 80 innocents at the same time what does an innocent exactly mean because like if you're if you're in

00:19:29.620 the military right if if you're in the u.s military and you invaded iraq okay i don't consider you an

00:19:36.820 innocent anymore you're a you're a militant in a conflict you know not saying it's not tragic when

00:19:42.740 you die it's horrible you might have a family and it's horrible but like you you are in a group of

00:19:48.560 armed men who stormed into another country and like it's different but like if you were like a

00:19:54.320 military guy who was just stationed at a base in georgia the united states not eastern europe

00:20:01.700 within america and someone killed you you'd be like whoa like that and like so even if they're

00:20:07.100 saying or they were militants or they were like this by the way dan bongino he was a secret service

00:20:12.100 agent right is he just fair game now is he not an innocent if he was just guarding the president

00:20:17.120 in the united states of america and let's by the way he guarded bill clinton he wasn't guarding

00:20:22.040 republicans he was about and and so for like for example a dan bongino who was guarding joe biden

00:20:27.520 let's say right a democrat who according to every right winger was illegitimately like stole the

00:20:35.160 election was not the legitimate president but i think still you would be like oh if someone just

00:20:39.540 murdered a secret service agent you'd go oh man that guy's got a wife and kids and you know like

00:20:44.820 it's it's wrong and so anyway my point is just that when people like i see people all all over

00:20:52.020 the place they'll say things like oh dave you know you're against the forever wars but this war

00:20:59.060 lasted 90 hours and you're like yeah so did iraq in the first 90 hours you know like okay look we

00:21:07.960 just we so far what we've done is we've killed a bunch of people killed a bunch of um what

00:21:14.760 they claim were drug boats they've never demonstrated any evidence that they were they

00:21:19.320 just say it and they killed a bunch of people there they killed a bunch of people on this thing

00:21:23.160 they say a lot of them were guarding the president or whatever but then i see all these people on

00:21:28.180 twitter and they're like um they're like dude we just had the easiest regime change ever and we got

00:21:34.380 17 trillion dollars in oil for it and you're like we didn't get any of that like like just factually

00:21:40.120 speaking. None of that's happened. We took out one leader. The regime is still in place.

00:21:45.220 We haven't gotten any oil. We haven't gotten one dollar in oil. What the fuck are you talking

00:21:49.400 about? And Donald Trump is claiming that we run the place now and we're going to transition into

00:21:55.340 the new regime and we're going to pick who the leaders are. But in order to do that, we need a

00:22:00.100 full military occupation. And so like, again, like just the spiking of the football and all this

00:22:06.200 stuff it it is very reminiscent of Iraq and Afghanistan and Libya where they all just like

00:22:12.260 said yeah it's it's working out great and it wasn't a catastrophe within a week in any of

00:22:18.180 those places you know like it took a little bit of time so hopefully this doesn't turn into that

00:22:23.040 but you know to your point and the reason why I I love that you posted that and why I reposted it

00:22:30.520 is that it does seem like a lot of people who were really appalled when israel was killing

00:22:39.360 christians um all of a sudden it's like what that's that's not a red line anymore or or they

00:22:46.640 go into this like like you you said uh might makes right like this thing that really is disturbing to

00:22:52.420 me where where people will say well you know if it's in our interest you know the problem with

00:22:57.700 those wars was that they weren't in our interest they were in israel's interest which by the way

00:23:02.000 we could you could even get into whether that was really in israel's interest or israel's ruling

00:23:06.140 elites interest like are any of these things ever in the people's interest or are they always just

00:23:10.680 in the rulers interest but regardless of that look that that certainly is true that that was

00:23:15.640 one of the problems with the terror wars is that they weren't in our interest but i don't know is

00:23:20.080 that the only problem like are you saying that like if we could go like hypothetically speaking

00:23:25.860 if we could go to latin america somewhere and just like slaughter you know a few hundred thousand

00:23:33.220 people but it would be in our interest it would it would make us all a little bit wealthier are

00:23:38.740 you saying you're okay with that like because because if you're just saying that like might

00:23:42.980 makes right first of all then israel's completely justified in what they're doing actually if might

00:23:48.400 makes right then shut the fuck up bitch because israel's just running your shit and stop complaining

00:23:54.240 oh it's so unfair that they control our government might makes right motherfucker and they're beating

00:23:59.380 you with that shit so it's so weird to see the people who are out of power you know saying might

00:24:04.240 makes right but also number two and i'm sorry if this you know i understand like you know i know

00:24:10.300 the young audience and all this and i understand that i'm jewish and so me saying this maybe

00:24:15.240 won't land the right way but if you're really gonna say might makes right we could just go

00:24:20.040 kill people and if we like let's say let's say this does work out in america's favor there's no

00:24:25.860 blowback there's no catastrophe but we all get 20 cents a gallon cheaper gas or something like that

00:24:33.380 and you're saying we could just kill people to make that happen that's no problem like okay but

00:24:38.280 don't ever call yourself a christian again don't ever fucking tell me you're a christian or don't

00:24:42.920 ever tell me you're a muslim or a jew or any of that shit you're a goddamn devil worshiper dude

00:24:47.440 like come on like if you're gonna tell me that you just support a policy completely removed from

00:24:53.060 morality at all that's not consistent with any religion that's ever existed definitely not

00:24:58.520 christianity and i do not like as a non-christian i don't like to be like i'm telling you when you're

00:25:03.560 not really a christian but i'm sorry this one is just so obvious like dude you're gonna support

00:25:08.860 you publicly support eh if you gotta murder some people so i'm a little bit wealthier even though

00:25:14.780 sneko venezuelans the the poverty rate is like 90 percent like what do you think you're poor

00:25:21.740 they're poorer than you could ever imagine being poor but if you get a little bit wealthier off

00:25:26.940 this it's okay to murder people uh kill you know have mothers grieving over their dead babies or

00:25:32.940 whatever any of these wars always require like come on man after all the talk last year about

00:25:39.340 how america's a christian nation america's a christian nation declared especially all the

00:25:43.500 the propaganda from the same people who are now adopting neocon perspectives they were so mad

00:25:48.820 about the islamic invasion the islamic invasion of america alex jones saying this non-stop and

00:25:53.740 then to declare america's a christian nation it has to be the same people then support murdering

00:25:59.820 kidnapping and regime change stealing oil just because it benefits us off of no basis of morality

00:26:05.840 it's never been abandoned like that before i think the playbook with iraq and other is like

00:26:10.720 we need to spread democracy oh these are corrupt places these are evil dictators they don't live

00:26:15.580 the right way they're mistreating people at least there was some sort of justification this is the

00:26:19.740 first time that i've seen them completely abandon any sort of moral justification and the press

00:26:25.420 conference trump is just like yeah we just want the oil the indictment was all for that was so

00:26:29.740 that they could go in and they and they could arrest him and try him in new york right that

00:26:33.700 25 patient indictment did not list fentanyl it said cocaine and machine guns cocaine and machine

00:26:38.820 guns this is why you need to invade another country and kidnap the president then anybody

00:26:43.560 you could take people in mexico you could take people haiti cuba anybody is guilty of this now

00:26:48.260 this is never they've never abandoned moral justification and if now you abandon this and

00:26:53.580 say that we're just doing this for the benefit of ourselves without any regard for other human life

00:26:58.880 then you can no longer keep declaring and insisting that america's a christian nation

00:27:04.060 because there's nothing Christian about that yeah 100% man and and you know like I understand in a

00:27:12.500 way like I understand the impulse to always like be reactionary against the thing you hate and we're

00:27:19.040 all guilty of that to some degree you know like we all like I I don't know it's it's you know I I

00:27:24.860 grew up like under the George W you know my coming of age like when I was like 18 to whatever 24 was

00:27:32.980 george w bush and i you know like was became huge anti-war because of that you know you you react

00:27:40.740 against the thing that you're opposed to and a lot of times you have good reason to be opposed to

00:27:45.160 that thing and so i guess there's been so many wars where they're like moralizing even though

00:27:50.840 it's bullshit like we both know like they didn't really go into iraq to bring democracy they went

00:27:56.340 into iraq because the clean break strategy on behalf of israel you know like it's like so

00:28:01.020 they're moralizing and faking and so maybe in a way there's something refreshing to to like some

00:28:05.900 right-wingers about just going nah we're not pretending we're doing that any of that we're

00:28:10.440 going in to get this but then at the same time you're like i don't know dude didn't you just let

00:28:15.020 them now become you let them make you become everything evil just because they were wrong

00:28:22.400 about their you know their whole justification and i just don't you know to me it's also so like

00:28:27.940 you know with the venezuela thing at least at the very least you know guys they've been lying to you

00:28:34.100 about all the justifications for it it's all so ridiculous the idea that this is about drugs

00:28:39.720 everyone knows that venezuela accounts for a tiny fraction of the drugs that come into this country

00:28:45.160 and none of the fentanyl statistically speaking like none of the fentanyl coming in is from

00:28:50.240 Venezuela and if you're talking about you know all right I mean I also think right-wingers you

00:28:58.820 know get weird about drugs in a way that's not good and and like in the older generation I think

00:29:05.540 a lot of them were just being phony in the younger generation I actually kind of worry that I think

00:29:10.680 not that it's good to be doing drugs or anything like that but I do worry that it's like a lot of

00:29:16.060 right-wingers today are just like inside on their phones and not actually interacting with other

00:29:20.920 people drugs aren't good a lot of people abuse them i would highly advise anyone to stay away

00:29:27.900 from them but the idea that like even if some of those boats were drug dealers and even if by the

00:29:35.440 way they weren't coming directly to america i think the they would say the type of boats they

00:29:39.180 had had to refuel like 25 times before they could come to america but if even if you want to argue

00:29:43.880 they were coming to some port that was going to some port that was going to some port that was

00:29:47.960 going to end up in america like since when did we just accept that you can be murdered on the spot

00:29:53.960 for allegedly being a drug dealer like dude i don't know man i mean without it there's no pictures

00:29:59.480 of the farms they said that he had these giant cocaine farms we haven't seen photos and the

00:30:03.480 fentanyl that all comes from china that that's what's killing everybody doing a couple bumps

00:30:07.640 of cocaine from venezuelan drugs that's not causing the drug crisis like the people bending

00:30:12.200 not even where the cocaine's coming from the cocaine's coming from colombia the fentanyl is

00:30:16.440 coming from mexico with precursors from china the cocaine's coming from colombia the nothing is

00:30:22.080 coming from venezuela like three percent of the cocaine or something like that is coming from

00:30:26.480 venezuela so this is not about that they're just lying to you how dumb do they think you are that

00:30:32.260 you would even fall for this you know and like but even that look secure the border and after that

00:30:41.940 drug like drug od not fentanyl is a little bit different but like cocaine like yeah probably

00:30:50.040 people shouldn't do cocaine it's not good for you but like come on dude the idea that we're

00:30:55.080 gonna act like oh my god we gotta murder cocaine dealers is like just it's ridiculous and corny

00:31:02.000 you must have been uh pretty fun to hang out with in your 20s i didn't i didn't know that you were

00:31:05.700 i was a i was a fun guy i was a fun guy at one point now i'm a boring dad now but uh

00:31:11.860 no no i mean listen i i was like i was a party guy for many years and i'm not anymore and i'm

00:31:18.740 like a real square now like i'm just a husband and a dad and i think this life is much better

00:31:24.180 i'm much happier here than i was there but at the same time you can still have a little bit

00:31:28.100 of nuance and go like i'm not saying someone who sells cocaine is just like oh they're not

00:31:31.700 a human being anymore like there's no moral question to just kill them because they do that

00:31:37.700 and look the bottom line here the real bottom line is that there's um it's not like this type

00:31:47.140 of like brutalism or the type of like um i don't even know what to call it just larping just like

00:31:53.620 just like really being really weak and then getting tough because well look all right i don't

00:31:59.940 mean to pick on your friend here but i did use this as as an example uh on my show but your buddy

00:32:05.220 there who i don't know anything about but who i saw the guy who got slapped and then came up that's

00:32:10.100 not my friend that was i literally met him okay that was our first interaction was that

00:32:14.420 which is okay yeah so all i know all i know about him is that nothing against the guy but that that

00:32:19.900 video that was literally the the interaction was that night okay so fair enough so i don't know

00:32:25.620 anything about this other than the video i've seen but i just i just thought that was such an amazing

00:32:29.880 moment and i don't even mean to pick on that guy like i don't know anything about him but there was

00:32:33.700 something just about watching him sitting there and he's like uh i don't know there was only like

00:32:38.540 eight people or something at least in the video that i saw and he's like beta beta and then this

00:32:44.700 short fat jewish guy just slaps the shit out of him and he goes oh okay and then he walks away

00:32:51.740 and he walks up to you and nick and he goes oh dude i just got punched in the face you're like

00:32:56.340 no you didn't dude i saw it it was on camera you did not get punched you got slapped in the face

00:33:01.660 and like look all i'm saying is like i feel like that's been right-wing twitter for the last year

00:33:07.220 it's like this tough guy thing fuck yeah oh that you know people will be like uh responding to me

00:33:12.480 and they're like oh dave you're such a pussy you don't even you won't even support the war

00:33:16.260 something like i'll wait listen dude neither of us are fighting neither of us are in the war

00:33:21.900 i'm opposing it you're for it there there's no more courage you know being demonstrated by you

00:33:29.040 than me and there's this weird thing where like people do they like kind of get off on this like

00:33:34.660 yeah we're fucking tough we'll go in there you gotta you gotta fall in line with us and you're

00:33:39.740 like okay let me tell you something that is not right wing that is not tough that is infantile

00:33:48.240 that shit the shit where like you sit behind a goddamn computer and feel like you're a real

00:33:53.440 tough guy it's like as you know i'm sure in like your replies nico it's like some random guy like

00:33:58.220 saying fighting words to you through an anonymous account on twitter every day like dude no you know

00:34:04.640 no i don't know i don't even understand what are people thinking when they send that do you think

00:34:09.880 i go oh shit here's a real tough guy who might fight the point is this right no being a conservative

00:34:16.680 like just by the definition of being conservative or being right wing which are different things

00:34:22.320 that have some overlap but like right wing certainly is like a respect for tradition

00:34:26.520 and for um tranquility and for sustainability right we right now we got a really risky hot

00:34:39.740 war in europe going on the war in europe is is a very dangerous situation there have been

00:34:46.920 hundreds of thousands if not into the millions of people who have died in this conflict and the

00:34:52.020 conflict is a proxy war between the entire Western world and the biggest nuclear arsenal

00:34:58.420 country in the history of the world. That's going on right now. Donald Trump was trying to solve

00:35:03.040 that and has been unable to thus far. The war is still raging on. What wise leader in that

00:35:09.920 predicament would go, you know what we should do? Let's start flirting with unnecessary wars of

00:35:17.740 choice and aggression let's start bombing aram and yemen and uh venezuela and all these countries

00:35:25.720 and talk about how we're going to run this we're going to do that if they kill their protesters

00:35:29.480 we're going to bomb them again if they did like this is reckless beyond belief there's nothing

00:35:35.800 right wing or conservative about any of it and there's certainly nothing tough people have

00:35:41.480 mistaken they think that right wing now is so i think a lot of people felt really cool they saw

00:35:46.720 the blackhawks and they saw bombs and they're like fuck yeah america the perfect example is

00:35:51.080 matt walsh who you know he's been calling me uh every day saying that i'm brown i'm haitian i'm

00:35:56.880 low iq i'm like okay then let's get in a conversation then let's talk about it and he

00:36:00.500 refuses to but he'll tweet something like we're your boss now get in line we own you it's like

00:36:07.000 dude you literally are yeah first off you your boss is ben shapiro you're not in charge of

00:36:13.120 Venezuela guy you're a podcaster all this tough talk that we're going to control and then too

00:36:18.540 I see it non-stop now where people like whoa Sneeko went liberal when when did Sneeko become

00:36:23.700 a commie since when is it liberal to be anti-war everybody was on the same page about this before

00:36:29.020 everybody was aware that this was unfair and it was the right-wing conservative position

00:36:34.020 to be anti-war because violence is against unnecessary violence is against conservative

00:36:38.720 values so when you say that this doesn't make sense and we shouldn't be getting involved in

00:36:43.520 conflicts like when did sneaker become a soy boy when is he uh when did he become a libtard

00:36:48.540 they redefined what it meant to be left and right so now out of the blue just like this being pro

00:36:55.080 war is this right-wing tough guy point of view and i think it's because there's a lack of

00:37:00.980 masculinity or aggression in their own life so they live vicariously through the army and videos

00:37:05.480 they see of ICE arrests on Twitter,

00:37:07.920 which is why it's so effective for the White House

00:37:09.900 to make like a really sick edit of guys in helmets

00:37:12.500 kicking illegals out.

00:37:13.740 They're like, yeah, that's me.

00:37:15.680 I'm part of the team.

00:37:17.280 And if you disagree,

00:37:18.460 you're just a leftist Biden supporter, Kamala.

00:37:22.020 And they think it's this us versus them

00:37:24.380 that they can't even describe.

00:37:26.180 I see that every day where people are saying,

00:37:29.660 when did Stiko switch up?

00:37:31.060 It's like, wait, no, I was always anti-war.

00:37:33.440 you changed because you think that right wing is murder for some reason now or it's some weird

00:37:40.520 thing where they go well this is in our hemisphere so this is to our advantage or yeah the monroe

00:37:46.080 doctrine none of them know what the monroe doctrine is like dude it's so funny to me too

00:37:51.340 because like people have no idea about the history of this shit but if you're gonna sit here and say

00:37:57.940 like what the pro-war stance is makes you or that's right wing and opposing like uh military

00:38:06.140 adventurism makes you left wing like do you know anything do you know anything like i mean dude

00:38:13.300 the entire all of the founders of this country okay so like i don't know what it means to be a

00:38:18.920 conservative in america but i assume that the founders of the country would be part of what

00:38:24.100 you're trying to conserve they were unanimous on war and unanimous that the president shouldn't be

00:38:30.300 able to ever declare war that only the congress should be able to declare war because there has

00:38:34.560 to be like some type of constraint on the the head of state before he can just launch because

00:38:40.700 otherwise he has the powers of a king and they have all types like beautiful quotes and i mean

00:38:45.640 if you just look through like thomas jefferson and um i think it was john quincy adams who had

00:38:51.160 that quote where he was like if we uh go around the world looking for monsters to destroy we will

00:38:56.320 find them everywhere and become the dickatrice of the world but lose our own soul in the process

00:39:01.480 like these beautiful quotes that totally came true you know about like how you yeah if you wanted to

00:39:07.100 if you go like oh they're a real terrible regime in our hemisphere well like every regime is a

00:39:13.100 terrible regime in our hemisphere and i don't know yeah they're a particularly bad one but there's

00:39:18.360 tons of them and around the world we could go fighting wars forever dude we are approaching

00:39:25.000 and when i say approaching i think we're months away from 40 trillion dollars in debt this country

00:39:32.280 is falling apart man we have the idea that we would we would be embarking on wars that we don't

00:39:39.820 have to you know there's such a thing as a war of necessity like a war where you have no choice

00:39:46.160 you know the the an army invades your country you have no choice you got to fight back or be

00:39:51.740 subjugated but these are all wars of choice dude we didn't have to do this in venezuela we don't

00:39:57.120 have to be bombing around no one even seriously believes if we didn't do this some catastrophe

00:40:03.300 would happen it's just that you know interests want this and i i really it blew my mind seeing

00:40:11.420 everybody it's like i was looking for people that were on the same page about this i felt like

00:40:15.120 you know i felt like a conspiracy theorist i felt like uh waking up at a hospital just like seeing

00:40:21.540 everybody fold and everybody and switch over to the side after being anti-war for so long and you

00:40:27.860 brought up a good point they're saying the monroe doctrine the western hemisphere is ours but regime

00:40:31.900 change in the western hemisphere we've seen the same play it doesn't it hasn't worked haiti is a

00:40:36.880 great example we tried to put regime change in haiti and then it's it's worse off than it was

00:40:41.760 before. These people, it's still

00:40:43.700 poor. People with

00:40:45.280 American connections assassinated Joe

00:40:47.280 Dumas, the president, and it's still

00:40:49.220 and then Trump will say this is a shithole

00:40:51.500 country while not talking about any of the

00:40:53.320 responsibility that America has

00:40:55.300 with regime change in the Western

00:40:57.320 Hemisphere. So even if you're going to say it's different

00:40:59.320 from Middle Eastern conflicts,

00:41:01.380 when has it worked in the West?

00:41:03.200 When has there been a war of necessity

00:41:05.180 in the West? When has regime change been

00:41:07.360 a pressing matter that we needed to

00:41:09.300 do? And they're saying

00:41:11.040 it's close to yeah i think it's the debt right now is 38 trillion dollars i saw trump posted on

00:41:16.000 truth social i think today or yesterday and it also coincided with jd vance essentially saying

00:41:21.060 that it wasn't about fentanyl they're they're one they're admitting that it has nothing to do with

00:41:26.080 cocaine and that it's really about oil and then trump is now flexing and bragging that the interim

00:41:31.380 authorities in venezuela just handed over 30 million barrels of oil which is i think is

00:41:35.920 equivalent to three billion dollars which is essentially nothing if you're going to compare

00:41:39.960 that to the debt as nothing you look at how much it costs to run the government every day in

00:41:43.540 america it's like four billion a day so all this breaking your promise of no new wars to get

00:41:49.480 three billion so far this would have was what it was for yeah and and by the way just just to be

00:41:56.860 clear the monroe doctrine doesn't say that we get to run all of the western hemisphere or anything

00:42:03.640 like that the monroe doctrine says that faraway powers shouldn't be like meddling over here and

00:42:11.020 we won't be meddling over there and faraway powers like it's not like it says like hey if

00:42:15.740 you have some oil we want and you're in south america we own you or something like that like

00:42:22.100 it's just like kind of a ridiculous thing um which we by the way they never bring up the second part

00:42:27.700 of that because we haven't been following that we're meddling all around the world but then we

00:42:32.520 say oh if anybody else and and and us meddling will be like overthrowing democratically elected

00:42:38.380 governments overthrowing other types of governments bombing countries invading countries

00:42:42.640 their meddling will be like you're doing you have firms that are doing business with firms in that

00:42:48.780 country and therefore so it's like the whole thing is just not has nothing to do with the

00:42:52.660 monroe doctrine and look yeah people can say that um you know look i don't know okay so donald trump

00:43:01.700 so far as right he got some type of agreement to make a deal we haven't actually seen this go

00:43:09.620 through we don't know that any of this is going to happen and as you correctly pointed out even

00:43:15.300 if it did it would be like what is this really make an impact like did we just save everybody

00:43:20.680 half a penny on gas or something like that like what what actually what actual tangible benefit

00:43:26.340 did we get but by the way we haven't gotten any of that yet and you know when donald trump says

00:43:33.620 that the the vice president or who's now the president or whatever who it looks like maybe

00:43:39.340 was a collaborator in this whole thing um who he's allowing you know he sidelined the opposition

00:43:45.360 and allowed her to step in control and be in charge of the regime now or at least he's saying

00:43:50.120 that she was saying she's speaking out of both sides of her mouth she's telling her people we

00:43:55.580 will not acquiesce we will not back down maduro is still the president then she's telling president

00:44:00.300 trump no no we're going to do a deal first of all who knows you know i i could think of like at least

00:44:05.700 a few examples uh one being fidel castro i know when he took over he made all types of promises

00:44:11.480 to the to the united states that he was going to do this that and the other once he got into power

00:44:16.320 and so they would allow that to happen and then once he did he said screw you i'm taking all your

00:44:20.900 companies and all this stuff so like it's not it's not like just because they say they're going

00:44:24.760 to do something doesn't mean we're going to get that um also another good example of that is ahmed

00:44:30.740 chalabi who was really a big force in the um the neoconservatives like argument that uh toppling

00:44:39.620 saddam hussein would work out really well he was like an iraqi exile who had promised them that if

00:44:44.800 they put him in power or put the hashemites in power that they would do all these nice things

00:44:48.780 for israel but then he got into power and he went screw you i'm not doing any of that so like you

00:44:54.580 don't know what is going to happen here and then the real look the real point here is that when you

00:45:01.100 if you topple a regime which we haven't even toppled the regime here but if you wish to topple

00:45:06.600 a regime the only real way to make sure that you can control what comes next is to militarily

00:45:15.380 occupy the country and by the way we've seen over the years that even doing that doesn't mean you

00:45:21.340 can guarantee what comes next you could still lose you know like you you could still even it's

00:45:26.420 not like the taliban perfect even when we well when we well look obviously afghanistan is a

00:45:32.000 different country than venezuela but i'm just making the point that when when we occupied the

00:45:36.480 country we overthrew the taliban and installed our own government but even after that the taliban

00:45:42.420 still controlled large portions of the country and by the end of the war the taliban controlled

00:45:46.800 most of the country and then when we left they controlled the whole goddamn thing so it's not

00:45:51.620 like even if we were there we couldn't necessarily determine who the next regime is going to be

00:45:57.460 but not being there it's a joke you can't just sit here and say we'll do this or we'll kidnap you

00:46:04.680 again come on nobody no serious person actually believes you can control a nation that way

00:46:10.720 and if you do want to fucking put boots on the ground and send troops in there like like where

00:46:17.740 people are going we just got 17 trillion dollars in oil well if you actually wanted to get all 17

00:46:24.100 trillion dollars out there you're going to need like maybe a force of 250 000 soldiers on the

00:46:30.440 ground and by the way do you think venezuelans whether the government stands or falls and it

00:46:35.280 becomes an insurgency you think they're just going to sit back and take it as you come in there and

00:46:39.980 take all of their stuff like you take all of their shit a regime the entire population or at least

00:46:45.760 millions and millions of people it's a country of 30 million people at least 10 15 million people

00:46:50.940 hate america's guts and they're just all no one's gonna grab a rifle and kill a few of our boys

00:46:57.480 how many soldiers are gonna die in this thing if we actually tried to do what trump's saying

00:47:02.540 which i don't think we're gonna do but still it's it's ridiculous people are excited because

00:47:07.480 they think oh it was one and done great military operation look out the helicopters went in you

00:47:13.280 can't extract all this oil without military presence of venezuela it's impossible i saw

00:47:18.640 let me just say i'm sorry i don't mean to interrupt you i'm sorry i always talk too much

00:47:22.960 but let me just quickly on that because i just this is the one thing i have of being like older

00:47:29.320 i dude i remember so vividly i remember after the 1991 invasion of iraq but george hw bush

00:47:37.960 invaded iraq didn't topple saddam hussein but we fought a war there it was a pretty clean war

00:47:42.380 we we took almost no losses they took some losses but it was quick and over and they were all bragging

00:47:48.900 look how easy it is look how easy it is that we can do this and they were they were celebrating

00:47:53.000 they had a bob hope special like they were doing all the shit like just celebrating it was like

00:47:56.720 oh, this is such a great, and then we had to bomb Iraq for 30 more years after that, like 30 more

00:48:02.660 years after that before we were done with Iraq, and I remember the war in Serbia, and I remember

00:48:07.960 Bill Clinton celebrating, hey, we did it, we stopped a genocide, by the way, genocide was

00:48:13.040 fake, was never happened or was going to happen, and then they went back in the next year in 2000

00:48:18.660 and had a color-coded revolution and overthrew Milosevic, and he got tried, and they were like,

00:48:23.220 look no problems you know we can encroach nato all the way up there no problem they celebrated

00:48:28.260 as they did it and now look at the war in ukraine all a result of all that stuff you know and so

00:48:33.500 like you you could sit here it's even as they're sitting there saying this is the big thing everyone

00:48:37.500 tries to give me shit over is that dave got the 12-day war wrong he was warning it could be a

00:48:42.960 catastrophe but then it didn't end up being a catastrophe and you're like give it time you know

00:48:48.140 Like, I don't know. I mean, I never said it was guaranteed to be a catastrophe. I was warning there's a possibility. And even now, Netanyahu and Trump are still talking about bombing Iran again. Lindsey Graham was just saying that if they kill any other protesters, we're going to go bomb them now.

00:49:06.200 Like, all of these things, you're walking into a field of landmines for no reason.

00:49:14.180 That seems like the floodgates are open now.

00:49:16.520 They've been waiting for a reason to strike Iran,

00:49:19.340 and it seems like now is the perfect opportunity with a new access to oil

00:49:24.120 because that was the number one aspect holding it back

00:49:27.880 was the Strait of Hormuz, what Iran's access to oil

00:49:30.900 and how they fund so much of the economy in Europe.

00:49:33.900 I think within the next couple weeks, couple months, Israel's going to hit Iran.

00:49:37.720 This is why Netanyahu's super excited about it.

00:49:40.060 They haven't been private about it at all.

00:49:41.460 netanyahu's up in arms the Rothschild family's up in arms all the zionists are are extremely happy

00:49:46.200 that that trump followed suit and did this and to see tim pool and so many of the the america first

00:49:52.100 people one a lot of them being supportive of the war with ukraine and russia it's like okay these

00:49:57.580 are white christians killing white christians and you're christian nationalists and you're

00:50:02.000 pro-white this is isn't this contributing to the white genocide being supportive of this war

00:50:06.340 And then two, people like the America First people here, like Tim Pool, saying, oh, look, everybody, we're going to get all this free oil.

00:50:14.340 We're going to get all this free oil.

00:50:15.600 Now completely trusting of the regime that they've been so critical of.

00:50:19.600 They were supportive of Trump because he said no new wars.

00:50:22.840 Then he betrays you, but you forgot about that immediately and are celebrating the fact that you're going to get all this free money.

00:50:30.440 If it if it really boosts the economy, then then that's great.

00:50:33.620 but i i would be i'd be very surprised if we see any immediate benefits yeah yeah it's like it was

00:50:41.860 went from no new wars to like only good new wars or something like that and like what like even

00:50:48.700 the thought that this is going to boost the economy like i don't even know exactly what that

00:50:54.740 means you know obviously there's there's all the zionists argue that it boosts the economy to give

00:51:00.640 israel billions of dollars when we make them spend that money with our weapons companies here that

00:51:06.500 boosts the economy and creates jobs or something like that you're you're telling me that the the

00:51:12.960 u.s federal government the organization that is responsible for transferring wealth in a larger

00:51:20.920 number than any organization in history from the working class and the middle class to the ultra

00:51:26.020 political connected elite they're going to what make sure that this one transfers to you more

00:51:32.740 efficiently like best case scenario out of this you get 20 cents a gallon off you know what i mean

00:51:39.980 like it's like the best case scenario and then even that is that worth it is that worth how many

00:51:44.660 people is it worth to kill to get that and you know i don't know it's just like the idea that

00:51:51.160 people have still bought in that they think all of the people who have been you know the entire

00:51:58.740 federal apparatus and this regime that's betrayed you at every turn is really working for you this

00:52:05.420 time I don't know you know I remember people like in 2020 uh I was really harsh on on Trump in 2020

00:52:13.960 because you know obviously it was like the worst year in modern American history and he was awful

00:52:19.920 the whole time so i was really tough but i remember literally watching trump supporters

00:52:25.040 tell me that the only reason he's keeping fauci on the job is so that he can expose him

00:52:31.360 and get him arrested you know you know it's like people like buy into these theories that you're

00:52:37.060 like wait what well no actually this isn't 4d chess this is just exactly what you see in front

00:52:43.060 of you like i don't know did you see that jeb bush is praising donald trump did you see you know how

00:52:48.840 marco rubio little marco is the one who's led this whole policy yeah guys this isn't trump

00:52:55.700 manipulating everybody else into some brilliant plan this is donald trump getting dog walked

00:53:01.660 into what all of them wanted to do already that we were supposed to all be against

00:53:06.060 marco rubio went on the news and he said cuba should be afraid he's like i'm not going to

00:53:11.640 specify exactly but now seeing the support they got i think the the opportunity for them to go

00:53:16.920 to Colombia, Cuba, they're seeing dollar signs or the motivations are unclear. Maybe there's

00:53:24.500 several, but it's very possible that we continue this pattern. I wanted to ask you about Nick's

00:53:30.580 position on that. That really surprised me. You recently did a podcast during his generational

00:53:35.080 run of 2025. It seems like his base is split. I'm sure you've seen this. A lot of them are very

00:53:41.640 upset about what happened they've been very critical as a movement of the the trump

00:53:47.420 administration but this this move nick was very happy about and some of his base was very happy

00:53:52.800 about why do you think that the america well his america first movement is supportive of this

00:53:58.980 well i don't uh honestly i mean i did i did the podcast with nick there but i haven't actually

00:54:04.820 seen what nick had to say about uh the venezuela stuff so where he's he's on board with this yeah

00:54:10.880 Yeah, he's been very on board.

00:54:13.340 He's very happy about this.

00:54:14.420 He thinks it's separate from regime change in the Middle East because of the Monroe Doctrine he cited.

00:54:19.620 He thinks that this is going to benefit America.

00:54:23.620 He thinks it's going to be in and out.

00:54:25.660 He was against the fact that Trump is saying that there needs to be military presence and that we now own Venezuela.

00:54:31.040 He said, OK, maybe that's a little far.

00:54:32.440 But overall, he's supportive of regime change in Venezuela, and he thinks that this was a good military operation.

00:54:38.440 wow that's disappointing man i i mean i don't uh i don't understand so if he's against if he's

00:54:45.440 against trump saying we own it now then why would he be for it like what's the what's the point of

00:54:50.440 doing it unless we own it is that the the argument i mean i don't know i guess i i haven't really

00:54:55.440 heard him make his case so i don't want to like straw man what his position is neither he's not

00:55:00.300 here so i'm not going to describe his position yeah i mean i respect him a lot well well look

00:55:06.420 i mean look venezuela is if you want to say look it's in our hemisphere and it's not the same as

00:55:14.500 iran which is not the same as iraq which is not the same as afghanistan like it's a different

00:55:19.860 situation but i mean you know i know that so what is it for like 25 years now uh venezuela has been

00:55:30.680 a fiercely anti-american regime something like that and there's a i know that hugo chavez was

00:55:39.720 very popular at one point as he went on i think he got less popular and there was more of the rich

00:55:47.360 and the middle class who grew to hate him but then again a lot of them also fled so like millions of

00:55:53.440 them fled the country and aren't there anymore and there's still like you know probably like

00:56:00.560 15 to 20 million like natives who are living in poverty who they really supported him and

00:56:12.540 i don't know if maduro ever had the same level of support but anyway my point is you're looking

00:56:17.980 you're looking at landmines all over the place like if you actually want to go in there and put

00:56:23.000 boots on the ground, you're looking at losses all over the place, you know, and soldiers dying and

00:56:29.220 a bloody costly war. If you actually wanted to go in there and like extract the resources

00:56:35.400 to bring back to the United States of America, there's just such a big risk, you know, and like

00:56:40.620 right now to say, we're going to take that risk for like, maybe we'll, we'll extract more resources

00:56:48.920 then we could you know whatever i i'm just i don't know what his argument is but if you're

00:56:52.900 making some argument that somehow this is in america's interest or this is america first

00:56:57.100 i just don't see that and and the the risks way outweigh the potential benefits from it and then

00:57:05.900 again like i would just go back to the point i made at the beginning i mean i guess what i would

00:57:10.020 say to nick is like but aren't you a christian like come on doesn't that like preclude you from

00:57:14.940 being able to say might makes right and we can just go kill people and take their shit you know

00:57:20.040 I I don't know man I I think um like I am certainly I I've been opposed to all of the

00:57:28.240 crazy excesses of the progressives over the last 15 years and and I guess even more than that

00:57:35.160 and obviously like wokeism and all that shit is insane but I actually like I don't really believe

00:57:43.460 in some like like a return to like a neo fascist type attitude where it's like we should go take

00:57:52.160 everybody's shit and fuck them because we're the big dogs or something like that you know

00:57:57.640 like we said before i don't think that's actually what makes you tough i don't think that makes you

00:58:01.960 brave i don't think that makes you right wing i i think that america's tradition was always a

00:58:08.700 rejection of that. Like, we didn't get rich because we were like the British or the French

00:58:14.180 or like the Spanish. You know, we went around and colonized entire regions and raped all their

00:58:21.120 women and looted all their stuff and took it back to. That wasn't the story of America. The story

00:58:25.860 of America was that we went, we're not going to get in the business of any of that because we

00:58:30.200 think empire is wrong and costly and evil. And so what we're going to do is have a free society.

00:58:37.280 and we I'm not saying we were perfect at that but we did a better job at that than anyone else has

00:58:43.000 and that's actually why we're the richest and most successful and most powerful country that's

00:58:47.700 ever existed and like I just like uh I firmly reject this idea you know and I've seen this

00:58:53.600 out of a lot of people and people that I really like and I really respect but I've seen it out

00:58:57.180 a lot of right-wingers lately even with this shooting with the the ice thing and and with

00:59:02.900 venezuela where it does become this like might makes right we got to do this shit because that's

00:59:07.720 the shit to do and it's like to me that's not actually the story of america you know we were

00:59:14.080 like no we had a we had a uh free market economy that produced more that that created the the

00:59:20.880 greatest economy that has ever existed in the history of the world and the even the reason we

00:59:26.960 won the world wars was because we were able to turn our productive capacity into wartime capacity

00:59:34.940 right so like we turned our factories into making tanks but the reason we won is because we had more

00:59:39.640 factories and more production than anybody else in the world we didn't do it by by and and you

00:59:45.580 know i just think that uh as i said before there's there's um i think there's something really like

00:59:53.000 corrupting to your own soul to to say like no the way that we go get rich is that we go

00:59:59.080 you know dominate everybody else and take their shit i i don't think that's the right

01:00:03.620 position yeah you spelled it out perfectly it was the rejection of monarchy it was the rejection

01:00:09.560 of these empires and these oppressive governments and to have a free society that was what made

01:00:16.340 america america so for people to to now shift and and adopt that is i i just didn't expect to see it

01:00:23.680 that soon and i'm i'm curious to see how this i'm curious to see how this plays out and how

01:00:29.620 we find some sense you would also well i would also say just like on on the point of of nick

01:00:36.300 which i'd be curious to like talk to him about this but you you would also think like wouldn't

01:00:40.320 you go like well look dude you already told me what this regime was right so they're the ones

01:00:47.100 conducting this do you really think this is in your interest or in the american people like like

01:00:52.200 is your view that donald trump obviously was totally dog walked by netanyahu through his first

01:00:58.380 you know five years of being president and all the neocons and all the war hawks and all these

01:01:03.340 special interests have ruined everything but this time he's doing this one for us you know what i

01:01:08.820 mean like obviously like there's something else going on here and the administration has lied

01:01:14.080 through their fucking teeth about the whole thing here so at least you would think you would go like

01:01:19.840 they're up to something that isn't for us but yeah i mean i i think like if america wants to

01:01:26.840 survive and um and if we want to have like a good country for our kids to grow up in and stuff i

01:01:33.540 know you don't have kids yet but you will at some point and like you want to have a good country for

01:01:37.260 them to live in and like uh you know what we need to do is just get back to all the stuff that made

01:01:44.340 us successful to begin with which is like focus on our country try to have as much liberty here

01:01:49.320 as we possibly can try to limit as much of this corruption as we can and yeah like you don't go

01:01:54.620 looking for wars this is just it's so it's not a left-wing or a right-wing position it's a human

01:02:01.200 position it's the it's the christian muslim jewish anything position is that you don't just go

01:02:07.720 looking for mass murder campaigns you know you try your best to just take care of your own people

01:02:13.000 as best you can and see they even bombed you brought up hugo chavez they bombed there was a

01:02:17.420 museum where his grave site was laid and they just bombed that because they disagreed with him they

01:02:21.880 had nothing to do with maduro they did it because they could and seeing and he was a christian

01:02:27.640 Venezuela is a majority Christian country. Maduro is very Catholic. They're far more Christian than America is.

01:02:33.440 Seeing people completely disregard that, especially after all the criticisms of immigration and the wokeism rising and the lack of Christian values.

01:02:42.480 OK, this is a and regardless, Maduro, obviously not a good leader in a lot of ways. I'm not Venezuelan.

01:02:47.580 Oh, yeah. He's very popular with the Venezuelans. See, a lot of them, one, they say, OK, look how happy the Venezuelans are.

01:02:54.820 Look, this is justified. The Venezuelans are happy. It's like, weren't you America first? Why do you now care about what Venezuelans think about their country? This has nothing to do with us. What is this empathy coming from? And two, these are also Christian people that were killed and that are going to be continued to be killed.

01:03:12.380 Now, you cheered on the war in Ukraine and Russia, tons of white Christians dying, Venezuela too, Catholic nation, lots of Catholic lives were lost and this gravesite was bombed. What happened to America as a Christian nation? It seems like the idea of nationalism and of patriotism supersedes Christian values. And I don't see how you could put something above your faith, but perhaps that's a conversation for another time.

01:03:38.420 No, I do. Well, look, I mean, it's a very interesting point. And I will say that, like, I heard a lot of people, you know, making a lot out of when Israel kills Christians and going, whoa, Christians are dying here. And like, fair enough. Yeah, I mean, I mean, personally, like, I don't any anyone who's like an innocent person who's dying, I think is horrible.

01:04:01.100 but for the people who were making a lot out of Christians dying when Israel did it okay but yeah

01:04:07.740 I mean I think it is reasonable to point out that like then you should be just as outraged if Donald

01:04:12.340 Trump does it I'll leave you with this ask you a question about the future how optimistic are you

01:04:18.300 I think that a lot of people are left in a confusing place I'm glad that you had a stance

01:04:22.760 because I'm sure you've seen many people are kind of waiting until other people speak up to develop

01:04:27.380 an opinion about this I've never seen Twitter so apprehensive to put their foot in the arena

01:04:33.500 which is they're waiting to see where people stand so once this all plays out and people

01:04:39.320 start to realize the consequences of what happened what is the future of America look like and are

01:04:44.300 you optimistic about it well I mean look as far as the particular situation in Venezuela goes

01:04:52.700 i mean it's so hard to even predict right now because really not like what's happened is just

01:04:59.740 that donald trump's bombed the country or bombed some boats and then bombed the country and then

01:05:05.300 had a very successful operation where they kidnapped the leader but the regime is still

01:05:09.220 standing now trump's saying he's going to do all this shit but who knows what's really going to

01:05:13.080 happen so i think as of right now i'm not predicting like some calamity it seems to me

01:05:20.560 like i think what's going to happen essentially is that like we were saying before donald trump's

01:05:26.680 going to let this regime stand he's going to work at a deal where like the the big oil companies get

01:05:33.200 like a few points on a deal and that's that and the the people there will be just as oppressed

01:05:40.200 as they've ever been maybe it'll be slightly better maybe it'll be slightly worse and you know

01:05:45.940 the oil companies will have some profits that you know will help them and then maybe the american

01:05:51.500 people like we said maybe get like five cents or 20 cents on a gallon or something like that like

01:05:56.500 that's kind of the best case scenario right now is that it just goes like that but if donald trump

01:06:00.460 actually moves forward like he's said like i'm i'm comfortable putting boots on the ground or

01:06:06.260 something like that well then all bets are off man and there's really you know if he actually

01:06:11.920 wants to put boots on the ground then you're you're just walking into an area of landmines

01:06:16.760 and who knows what's going to happen next there on the broader picture of if you're just asking me

01:06:22.520 like am i black pilled as dan bongino would describe us as or whatever no i'm not at all

01:06:29.940 i think that um like i i've always felt this way and and part of this is just because like i have

01:06:36.560 kids i i'm i'm a dad so i always feel like as a father i have no option to be black billed that's

01:06:43.660 just not in my vocabulary like my my job is to give my kids the best possible future i can i

01:06:50.340 don't have an option to sit here and say everything feels hopeless or something like that i think

01:06:55.020 you know i i actually think that's pussy shit to ever feel that way you know like like i don't

01:07:02.160 think it makes you tough to support a war that you're not fighting in but i do think it makes

01:07:06.220 you a fucking pussy to sit around and go like everything's hopeless or blah blah like shut the

01:07:11.200 fuck up like i don't know most of human history people could fucking die from getting you know

01:07:17.100 strep throat so shut up you got it better than them in the 20th century we fought two world wars

01:07:23.660 a lot of guys you know our age or younger than us had had at one point in their life been in

01:07:30.560 trench warfare or some shit like that so like no you don't have a you don't know i don't believe

01:07:35.000 you have the right to be black billed ever i think that over the over the last year we you know as

01:07:42.740 you know dude we had an amazing thing happen where there was this like you know just every every

01:07:49.600 member of the israel lobby and the war party got completely destroyed there was this huge rise of

01:07:55.880 people who were like um you know just totally opposed to this stuff and i think in a weird way

01:08:02.740 like you know things are being exposed more and more now yeah in the last week a lot of people

01:08:11.380 have like fallen back and fallen into line with this shit but we still got the same mechanism

01:08:17.280 like we have the internet we have social media a lot all of these voices are allowed to speak now

01:08:24.200 there's these debates are allowed to happen and I just think like I think this is all going to be

01:08:31.040 slap down real quick i think all this war fever that people are like oh yeah we had a real

01:08:35.800 successful war in venezuela you're gonna find out real quick either that actually nothing came of

01:08:42.140 it or that things end up getting worse and i i just don't think it's actually gonna i don't think

01:08:48.100 this is gonna be the thing that takes this this energy down i think that all of the long-term

01:08:53.640 like trends are that the establishment media is getting destroyed the alternative media is rising

01:09:00.900 up and people are waking up to how corrupt this whole thing is so i'm very like white-pilled on

01:09:07.180 the long-term future needed to hear that one that was uh some optimism to to leave this dave smith

01:09:13.840 thanks so much for for coming on hope to speak to you again and best of luck to to you and your

01:09:18.880 family it's always great talking to you absolutely dude thanks for having me i like his perspective

01:09:23.840 a lot it's good to hear from fathers you know because he's right i want to raise kids in this

01:09:28.920 country i want to have a safe place to live in and i want to be around normal people you know i i want

01:09:34.940 to be around i want to live in a country where things aren't insane i think one of the takeaways

01:09:41.840 that i saw during that conversation is how quickly we move on from craziness immediately

01:09:51.020 we it's never been like this right and i'm younger so i can't you know speak for it but

01:09:57.800 I think during in Dave Smith's life I was growing up during the Iraq war during the George W. Bush

01:10:04.040 war on terror war on terror we gotta stop terror he was talking about how he's 18 to 24 when this

01:10:09.160 happened it's it seemed like my experience growing up is that we lived and we sat with these world

01:10:15.960 events much longer and we were able to process them as a nation whereas now you have craziness

01:10:24.040 weekly and we move on from event to event to event to event faster than ever before the perfect

01:10:30.940 example is covid and how quickly we memory hold this from complete division not wanting to speak

01:10:39.120 to others not wanting to interact with somebody who got vaccinated the social distancing paranoia

01:10:44.800 the protests that took over the entire country everybody forgetting about social distancing and

01:10:50.300 protesting for george floyd cities being lit on fire no police zones and memory hold and move on

01:10:56.580 it went from black squares and this look the covid look in people's eyes with the mask over

01:11:01.720 not able to see one another as neighbors to just moving on and forgetting and even recently it

01:11:09.620 went from all this outrage about somalis to to this it went from charlie kirk we need to figure

01:11:14.240 out to Venezuela we move on and we process these traumatic events for lack of a better word

01:11:25.000 quicker than ever before and I think in an unhealthy way where we're getting too used to

01:11:31.200 these world events and we're we're all emotionally sucked into these these issues that involve

01:11:39.680 everybody you know before being able to process them and we forget them quicker and it's almost

01:11:48.340 like you can say things like all the people that are saying might is right right people saying that

01:11:53.100 we should kill all communists matt walsh saying that i'm interventionist except for now now i'm

01:11:58.260 the boss of you and fall in line to now being able to just forget that you said all this and move on

01:12:03.500 and go to the next topic as if you weren't advocating for war this is setting a dangerous

01:12:08.340 precedent so i think it's important now to remember and make sure that be very specific

01:12:13.920 and precise with our words which is probably why so many people are are apprehensive to

01:12:19.660 to talk about what's going on now because maybe they don't want to get memory hold as well

01:12:24.260 but the people that do let's hold people accountable for what they said in the positions

01:12:28.820 that they hold during times like this it's very important that we remember where we stand because

01:12:34.600 it's so easy to get wrapped up in the craziness and act like it never happened right people who

01:12:40.140 are actually schizophrenic they live with that for the rest of their life it's like we we get

01:12:43.320 schizophrenic for a week we get involved in this madness and this complete chaos and then it goes

01:12:49.380 from chaos to normalcy without any sort of transition process and after a while if you

01:12:54.600 are chaotic and chaotic and do you really go back to normal or have we just adopted chaos as normalcy

01:13:02.940 so i hope you enjoyed that big shout out to dave smith go check out his podcast

01:13:09.000 part of the problem he has one of the biggest podcasts on spotify

SHNEAKO - January 08, 2026

Dave Smith Exposes the truth about Venezuela

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