00:00:28.260It's a month later, and it's as if it never happened.
00:00:31.360One of the major differences since we last spoke is the fact that now that there's a $2 million toll to trade oil through the Strait of Hormuz,
00:00:38.880which if people look at over the span of a year, you can make $100 billion.
00:00:45.840Is this something that's affecting the Iranian economy already?
00:00:48.620I don't have any way to measure that or calculate that myself, but I can tell you that, like I said, the only inconvenience for Iranians right now is the Internet.
00:00:56.140There's a lot of, you know, reports coming out that Saudi Arabia is urging the U.S. to destroy Iran.
00:01:03.240I'm inclined to believe it's true just because we know that Saudi Arabia, they feel threatened by Iran and they have been threatened by them for a very long time now.
00:01:10.740The U.S. have fighter jets flying to bomb Iran and they're getting refueled by aerial tankers over Saudi Arabian airspace.
00:01:17.400What else can you tell us about since we last spoke?
00:01:22.140Some, you know, something you've seen that we're not aware of.
00:01:26.140hello hello yeah so you are you're an esfahan which you know in there is prophecy saying that
00:01:37.560in esfahan there will be 70 000 jews that come and support the jaw that's funny but i saw you're
00:01:44.500just with the governor what's funny about that uh no i got nothing to say about that right now but
00:01:52.160Yeah. Yeah. Keep going. Keep going. Well, let's stay up to date. I liked your coverage
00:01:56.380of the holy sites that you're at. So you spoke with the governor and also you just heard a
00:02:04.180bomb strike that was very nearby you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, most of Iran, there's like
00:02:13.880nothing going on. Right. And I've tweeted about this. I posted videos about this. I'm sure you
00:02:17.720saw the video of me in this famous square in Isfahan. It's like an ancient mosque. There's
00:02:23.020like an old bazaar there. It's a really cool historical site. And everyone around there is
00:02:28.620living their lives comfortably. There was an attack nearby. Nobody responded. Nobody was
00:02:32.860afraid. I interviewed little kids and they're like cursing out Trump and they weren't phased
00:02:37.980at all by the bombing. So for the most part, life in Iran is completely normal. But every now and
00:02:45.680hear an explosion the explosion i heard last night which i tweeted about and this is the
00:02:49.920explosion you're referencing that was the loudest and closest explosion to my location and i guess
00:02:56.740it was probably a bigger bomb um because there are all kinds of bombs they can drop right 300
00:03:01.280pounds 500 pounds 2 000 pound bombs this one was really loud like it woke us all up at two in the
00:03:09.320morning and shook the entire building and uh yeah that that was the loudest uh most powerful
00:03:16.120explosion i've experienced since being here but for the most part our life is completely normal
00:03:19.860in iran right now okay so what can you tell us since we last spoke what are the
00:03:24.900the major updates and how was that conversation with the governor
00:03:28.080the conversation with the governor uh was good i mean he so he was giving us a tour of his
00:03:34.620cultural sites which is really cool and he was explaining everything to us and that site that
00:03:40.120historical site i was telling you about is amazing like they got stores selling incredible persian
00:03:47.340carpets different fabrics i mean it's just a great place to get lost i felt like the prince of persia
00:03:53.160or like assassin's creed just walking around there and so he was giving us a tour introducing us to
00:03:57.340like local artists and stuff like that and then he took us to this nice cafe and when we were
00:04:01.980sitting down there we started you know he was giving us his whole like spiel just describing
00:04:06.820isfahan's history and its culture etc etc but then we started talking politics and
00:04:11.300we asked him uh you know because a lot of people have been tweeting at me like hey why don't you
00:04:16.160talk to why don't you talk to people who aren't in support of the government why do you just keep
00:04:21.240interviewing people who who do support the government and so i i did i have spoken to
00:04:27.080people who are not in support of the government but they're not willing to like publish an
00:04:31.500interview and get on camera. And so that's been interesting for me. I asked them, like they all
00:04:38.480say like they're against the war, but they are not happy with this government. And so I took
00:04:44.940that opportunity to ask the governor about it. I said, hey, you know, I've spoken to some people
00:04:49.540who are not supportive of the government. They have these complaints. What is your response to
00:04:53.580that? And we recorded that. So we'll post that on X soon. But yeah, so it was just an interesting
00:04:58.700conversation was an opportunity to kind of hear the good things about espahan from the governor
00:05:02.940but then also pose some difficult questions for him as well and just get you know his raw feedback
00:05:07.580so when can we expect this to come out so my colleague dimitri from reason to resist who's
00:05:15.260also here with me he's a journalist he's a greek journalist who lives in canada he's going to be
00:05:20.220posting that interview any second so when he does i'll tweet it out and i'll send you the link as
00:05:25.900well and you can see that interview discussion you asked for new information so actually there
00:05:30.300was an attack a couple of hours ago and we were gonna go see it but it's raining and it's pretty
00:05:37.820late already we have a long day tomorrow so we're gonna go visit it tomorrow but it's like a village
00:05:42.700or a small town about an hour away from us there was a series of explosions there so some people
00:05:50.940took pictures and they sent it to us apparently the u.s is now dropping landmines on these iranian
00:05:57.500towns so there's a landmine it's called the m70 and you can lay it by hand or they have something
00:06:03.660like it's called a like a remote uh anti-armor mine system so you can drop it from an airplane
00:06:11.660you can fire it in an artillery shell and it'll open up and scatter them all around the area
00:06:16.220which is much more efficient than like one by one dropping it by hand right so apparently they're
00:06:20.700dropping this over villages from fighter jets and that is interesting because either they're just
00:06:28.900trying to terrorize the population because these are random right they just fall and they scatter
00:06:32.800they're called dumb bombs so they're smart enough to like detonate if they detect electromagnetic
00:06:37.720pulse or something like that if it detects like an armored vehicle nearby it'll blow up
00:06:42.080it's smart enough to do that but it's dumb to the extent that it's not precise so they just
00:06:46.200dropped over random people's houses so there was one woman cooking the kitchen and this
00:06:50.260landmines entered her house like through the balcony and blew up and killed her and uh there
00:06:57.360are other other people as well who went to go pick up a mine that did not detonate and it blew
00:07:01.660up and killed them or you know uh cut off their limbs or whatever so we're gonna go visit that
00:07:06.400site tomorrow and document it in greater detail but that's an interesting development because
00:07:10.400it's like what are they dropping it just to terrorize the population uh or are they dropping
00:07:16.500it because they're running low on some of these more precision bombs that they could be dropping
00:07:20.500because the u.s has been claiming iran's the one running low but people have pointed out that
00:07:24.180hey maybe the u.s and israel are actually low not just on air defense but on these specific
00:07:28.580precision bombs so i'm wondering if they're using these mines because they're running low probably
00:07:33.340a bit of both it's according to hex at these saying the only people in iran that should be
00:07:38.040nervous are the ones that think they're they're still going to live and they says yesterday that
00:07:42.560we negotiate with bombs. Trump is saying he's upset that they are now declaring victory and
00:07:49.000that peace will happen because Hexeth wants to keep on bombing. So much of that rhetoric,
00:07:52.520even from Lindsey Graham, is they just want to bomb and destroy Iran completely.
00:07:56.400Equally, it's also a lack of missiles because look at Hexeth, he's asking the Pentagon for
00:08:01.480$200 billion more. They want to terrorize the people, but they don't have the same capabilities
00:08:07.960they had in the beginning of epic fury because why would you drop these landmines now they must0.80
00:08:13.060be short do you think that well okay what is the perception from the Iranian people because Trump
00:08:18.200just had this huge statement he's telling everybody that he's negotiating with the
00:08:22.840leadership in Iran while also saying he killed them all what's going on here is Iran he also
00:08:27.520said that the Iranian leadership gave him a prize a big prize that I'm not going to specify but
00:08:32.080very expensive a nice prize what are the iranians saying about this
00:08:35.460uh they don't buy any of this bullshit um the people are like every night there's a rally
00:08:42.960in this in the cities they have multiple rallies and the people gather and they show their support
00:08:48.580for the government and obviously they show their support for the armed forces and so
00:08:52.980we were just driving around the city and like every few blocks there would be a rally of cars
00:08:58.420in a rally of people like on the sidewalk waving flags they have stages they're giving out free
00:09:02.940tea and ice cream and they play music they they do poetry they obviously chant like death to the0.90
00:09:09.180shah uh so their morale is very high they don't want a ceasefire they want revenge and they say0.96
00:09:15.180this at their their rallies they want revenge and uh their sense is that they're winning
00:09:20.180and so morale is is high and in iran look in iran right now like i said life is mostly normal
00:09:27.680The only inconvenience really that people are currently experiencing in Iran is that they don't have Internet.
00:09:35.320Most people are cut off from the Internet. That is the only real inconvenience.
00:09:40.520So. Morale is is high because they haven't really been that inconvenienced yet.
00:09:46.860Obviously, there you know, there is a chance that you die. But Iran is a big country.0.96
00:09:50.460They're over 90 million people and they have all these you know, they have so many different cities or gigantic cities.
00:09:55.500And so, yeah, there's a one in, I don't know, let's say 1000th chance that you'll die in a bombing, right? So a lot of people are being killed, they're being injured, like up to 100,000 buildings have been damaged across the country in like just a few weeks, right? So that's a lot of damage. But again, it's a massive country with 90 million plus people.
00:10:15.760So the only real inconvenience, again, is the lack of Internet.
00:18:56.240So these are made up borders and populations have just been carved up and split into different countries like the Kurds, for example.0.82
00:19:04.040you know a piece in turkey a piece of iran a piece of iraq deliberately you know the british
00:19:09.680and the french carved it up that way after the collapse of the ottoman empire and so the region
00:19:15.440exists today in such a way where it's designed to produce instability and insecurity which puts
00:19:23.480leaders like saddam hussein in a position where he feels like to secure his national security
00:19:28.340interest for the country of iraq he has to go to war with iran and i'm not trying to justify his
00:19:33.560decision-making. I'm just trying to point out that on a deeper level, the issue in the region
00:19:39.220is colonialism and American imperialism and Zionism. Those forces combined have divided
00:19:46.060and conquered the region, and it just produces insecurity and instability. And that's what
00:19:50.840causes these devastating wars. Right. So pinpointing and blaming on the different leaders
00:19:55.660is looking at it through a microscope instead of seeing the grander scale.
00:20:00.100exactly i think it's too simplistic and it's how we get trapped you know like you posted the other
00:20:07.760day about uh shias or yeah what did you tweet exactly i said shia muslims are keeping the
00:20:16.580alive yeah um and and there was a brother he's a streamer i forget his name i think muhammad he
00:20:23.540does dawah he replied to you um not muhammad hijab there's another guy he's a younger guy
00:20:30.260yeah yeah yeah the land uh yeah the second one what was his name uh muhammad ali muslim lantern
00:20:37.780yeah yeah um that conversation was that that exchange was interesting i think a lot of people
00:20:46.240want to make it about sunni they want to make it about shia they want to make it about iran they
00:20:50.240to make it about syria i think when if when we don't when we look at these things through the
00:20:56.800microscope like you just were describing we get trapped in the weeds and we start arguing and
00:21:01.840debating and then it becomes sectarian and it becomes one big victim uh narrative where everyone
00:21:08.240is talking insisting that they are the victim and the other side are you know they're they're the uh
00:21:14.080it's playing into their hands they want us to be divided and bickering at each other
00:21:17.280and like the perfect example that we can prove is the isis example which is clearly funded by0.90
00:21:23.040massad and cia they admit that now so this was meant to divide the muslim world for so long now
00:21:28.060we realize who was behind it and really the greater intention was to get people focused on
00:21:32.560radical muslims and muslim terrorists and getting you know these regions divided by borders to hate
00:21:37.800each other mission was accomplished if you are feeding into that instead of seeing who's really0.74
00:21:42.000benefiting and who's really creating this division so my point is don't play into their hand right
00:21:46.820now, Iran is fighting back and they're doing a terrific job. So they deserve credit. And they're
00:21:50.880predominantly Shia Muslim. And so all this talk I hear about Shia Muslims being, they did this,1.00
00:21:55.720they did that. What's happening right now? And who's the one fighting back? Especially Trump
00:21:59.200just said in a speech yesterday, he said that Saudi is working with them. So how do you think
00:22:03.440we're supposed to do a line? Well, you know, let's look at who is really defending the Umar0.99
00:22:09.040right now. Who is fighting back against the people trying to genocide us? It's Iran.0.85
00:22:12.880Right. Yeah, exactly. You're right to say that we need to understand that we are playing into their hands. This is a trap that they've set is to divide and conquer us.0.68
00:22:24.600The only thing I would advise you to do, because I think we don't like when people make this sectarian in a negative way, right? But when you say Shia are carrying the Omar, representing the Omar, you're kind of being sectarian, but in a positive way, because you have a positive intention.0.95
00:22:40.840You're saying what the Shia in Iran are doing is right. They are actually resisting U.S. imperialism and Zionism. Right.
00:22:48.760But then that puts these Sunnis like the Muslim lantern in a position where he replies because a lot of Sunnis feel triggered by that because it becomes like us versus them, Shia versus Sunni.0.91
00:22:58.680But actually, who triggered all of this? It was Hamas in Gaza. And they are Sunni. Right.0.89
00:23:04.400So it's not about being Sunni or Shia. It's about the entity you establish or a resistance group, whether it's a non-state like Hamas, that's a non-state entity or a state entity like Iran.
00:23:14.480What is your ethos? Right. So whether you're Sunni or Shia, it doesn't matter.
00:23:18.800It's about are you willing to resist? Or are you identify as the enemy?
00:23:24.620And as he pointed out, you have nations like Saudi Arabia and others that are willing to to not just exist within the American order that, you know,
00:23:33.660sometimes that isn't up to you, right? Like, you're not powerful enough to resist that. Like,
00:23:37.900let's say you're if you're Qatar, like a small little Gulf country. But they go beyond that.
00:23:42.780Unfortunately, they, like you said, Saudi Arabia, Donald Trump, you know, basically coming out and
00:23:47.360saying Saudi Arabia wants us to do it. And now the New York Times has reported, there's a lot of,
00:23:51.320you know, reports coming out that Saudi Arabia is urging the US to destroy Iran. Now, how much of
00:23:57.420that is true? I'm inclined to believe it's true, just because we know that Saudi Arabia has been0.99
00:24:02.080they feel threatened by Iran, and they have been threatened by them for a very long time now. So
00:24:07.720it doesn't surprise me. But, you know, perhaps it's propaganda. We don't know. We need more
00:24:11.620information to confirm it. But you're right to point that out. I mean, it's obvious. We could
00:24:16.620just forget the propaganda coming from the media outlets. Let's look at what's actually happening.
00:24:21.060The U.S. have fighter jets flying to bomb Iran, and they're getting refueled by aerial tankers
00:24:26.360over Saudi Arabian airspace. And those tankers are flying out of Saudi Arabian air bases.
00:24:32.080right there what what u.s base in saudi arabia or it's a saudi arabian base that they're giving
00:24:37.320access to the americans for so those are actions that tell you very clearly that they support the
00:24:42.320war with iran and that's unfortunate now they happen to be sunni but those are that's a that's
00:24:49.940a minority right for the leadership if you look at the entire i'm not even in sense about to say
00:24:53.880that i travel to saudi arabia all the time people say like don't criticize because then it's not
00:24:58.100even criticizing responding to what trump said but they said like you might not be able to travel
00:25:01.720there, blah, blah, blah. I don't want to get into the details, but people understand what I'm
00:25:04.880insinuating. So I'm saying this because I want to encourage the people to unite. And so speaking
00:25:09.660about what's happening in Iran, because you're there, what is the overall idea about Iranian
00:25:14.440leadership? That's something that we're very confused about in America, because they keep
00:25:17.360bragging about regime change, saying they killed the leadership. Then they said they're negotiating
00:25:20.680with the leaders. What do the Iranian people think? Who's in charge of Iran right now?
00:25:25.000so as i understand it iran uh has uh iran has a strong institution or a system that is not
00:25:38.680dependent on one man so the u.s and israel believe that if they kill the supreme leader the entire
00:25:44.140thing would collapse that they would either produce an internal conflict where there would
00:25:48.940be a power struggle by competing forces who want to become the supreme leader and take over the
00:25:53.100country or that the system actually wasn't too strong and that it would just collapse like a
00:25:58.880house of cards well they tested that theory they killed the supreme leader and many other people
00:26:04.520we don't know how many leaders but supposedly the supreme leader wasn't alone he was with other
00:26:09.080people so they killed a lot of people it's like a major decapitation strike and what happened
00:26:14.780it's a month later and it's as if it never happened the iranian system the iranian economy
00:26:20.880the government everything continues to exist and they're fighting back and they're actually doing
00:26:25.340very well and then they killed ali larijani and he was the secretary they killed him in an
00:26:31.280assassination strike as well and what happened it's as if it never happened you know iran's
00:26:36.340continuing to fight back so they have a very strong resilient system i think that's been proven
00:26:41.180that's an objective thing to say i think uh who's in charge i mean apparently the the son of the
00:26:47.860supreme leader much about he has become the supreme leader but i think from what i've heard
00:26:53.220from iranians and what i'm hearing trump say he was injured in the attack that killed his father
00:27:00.220and so he's alive but he's injured and he's injured enough where he's not even coming out
00:27:05.120on camera so so far he's only made like two or three statements and they've been written so
00:27:10.120obviously he's not well enough to put himself on camera but apparently he's the new supreme
00:27:15.460leader. But regardless, it doesn't matter, I think, even if he isn't alive, which could very
00:27:20.840well be the case. Maybe he isn't alive and they just haven't shared that yet. Just like Netanyahu.
00:27:26.020Yeah, potentially like Netanyahu. It wouldn't matter. I think, you know, it would continue.
00:27:31.800Iran and Iran has decentralized itself, like they've made themselves coup proof. And they've0.91
00:27:36.200done this because they understand what U.S. and Israel are trying to do. They want to decapitate.0.86
00:27:40.980So how exactly are they coup proof? Because we know that they've been preparing for this for
00:27:44.600decades, what systems are in place to prevent this regime change? So, for example, one of the
00:27:51.360things they did after the 12-day war, last summer when Israel attacked Iran, it was almost 24 hours
00:27:58.260before Iran could respond. And that was because of a decapitation strike that took out leadership
00:28:03.420that would have directed the armed forces. And there was just like a bureaucratic kind of hold
00:28:09.840up or whatever and so for that reason the orders didn't come down top down fast enough this time
00:28:15.580what they did in preparation for that understanding that the intention was to decentralize them and
00:28:20.080potentially produce a coup they gave their orders preemptively to units in the army in the aerospace
00:28:29.360forces or whatever forces are responsible for firing drones and the missiles and they split
00:28:33.980them up into units and they gave them orders and they carry out their mission regardless of whether
00:28:38.880or not they receive orders telling them to do this or to do that so that way they guarantee
00:28:43.460that even if they decapitated and they somehow got a guy that was like okay let's make peace
00:28:48.320the entire army has their orders and they're like no we're not making peace we're fighting back
00:28:52.680so it's not even like someone could you know like the massad could take out everyone and then they
00:28:58.740get their guy and he becomes the new leader and he goes he says okay guys let's stop fighting i
00:29:02.620don't even think he would have the power to do that so it's kind of like a dead hand strategy
00:29:06.280basically and so that's just one way they've decentralized the army in such a way where
00:29:11.140they're going to fight regardless with or without their orders um but they've also split it up like
00:29:17.200the supreme leader understood that they would probably kill him and so he created layers
00:29:21.680layers and layers of succession so he said if i die you know it should go to this this person
00:29:27.940should lead that person should lead that person should lead over and over and over again and he
00:29:31.560several layers of that. And so that was another method of having continuity. If he's killed and
00:29:38.820the next four guys are killed, people understand where leadership is going to lie. And, you know,
00:29:45.300another thing is, like, you look what happened in Venezuela. Somebody folded, right? Somebody
00:29:50.120folded. Somebody gave up Maduro. Maduro, like, now he's sitting in jail. So Trump felt like,
00:29:55.720oh, okay, it must be that easy with Iran as well. And I'm not criticizing Venezuela. I don't know,
00:30:00.520like i'm not saying that they're not committed to the revolution they're not committed to their
00:30:04.280government's mission i don't know we know just not on iran's level we do know the commitment is
00:30:09.600not like it's not it's exactly it's not and there's a lot of differences in like terms of
00:30:14.040geography and military capabilities there's a lot of differences but the point is like you said
00:30:18.620they're not on iran's level so trump thought he was going to have somebody in iran would sell out
00:30:23.060basically and it's not that there aren't sellouts it's just at this higher level people really i
00:30:27.960think underestimate the islamic revolution what it meant to these people what they fought for what
00:30:33.180they struggled for for so long i mean think about it they've been under sanctions for 45 years
00:30:39.000plus yet they've developed this beautiful society that i've witnessed with my own two eyes
00:30:43.940like this is a well-developed country people take the train from city to city they take the subway
00:30:51.340within the cities they have access to health care they have access to mass mass transportation their
00:30:56.740cities are beautiful their historical sites are preserved and they got a badass military and they
00:31:03.040made their own social media apps they have all kinds of things they develop their own they pride
00:31:08.200themselves on standing on their own two feet and they do that under sanctions so you have to have
00:31:11.800some kind of ideological commitment right that uh that drives that right and so that's the difference
00:31:17.620between iran venezuela and that's where i think trump miscalculated the main thing uh one of the
00:31:21.720major differences since we last spoke is the fact that now that there's a two million dollar toll
00:31:26.200to trade oil through the Strait of Hormuz,
00:31:29.400which if people look at over the span of a year,
01:00:38.280what else are they hiding from us that you don't know you have to take them out like why is it
01:00:40.840taking so long just take it all out go for it you're take it all out take it all out is he also0.97
01:00:44.400jewish let me know just take it all out just nuke him slowly doing this mission take every0.95
01:00:50.400because that we can't don't like i don't like that for them to try to look at his face too like they0.99
01:00:53.680look uglier i don't recommend people go the neocon route like maybe you'll make money but it just
01:00:58.880leaves something on your face and your soul that you can't repair you don't look well then they
01:01:04.040know where every missile is they know what every capability is they need to just do it if i know
01:01:07.180for a fact that that's the truth get it over with destroy it so destroy it what happened to the
01:01:11.960liberation that was a narrative three weeks ago and everyone seems to have forgotten but you know
01:01:18.680look how easy it is to ratio pbd over and over again this post here pbd like people like oh it's
01:01:22.980one of the biggest podcasts in the world you're mad that they won't have you on yeah bro look 2k
01:01:26.780likes i just put a dot with 7.4 it's so easy bro every day every day if we know nobody likes
01:01:33.100100 percent they have long-range missiles other stuff for my tweets before we cover the news and
01:01:38.060also i'm looking forward to this propaganda co-interview um i haven't when i was sick i
01:01:46.020was been doing a lot more research on malcolm x and watching his speeches back
01:01:48.700it was funny because you know i'll be transparent when academics yesterday or last stream was saying
01:01:56.040what do you what's your call to action what do you do because i don't just want to be a streamer
01:02:00.320right now you know i do want to transcend that obviously before and even then you know i'm a
01:02:05.040filmmaker and stuff but there is a lack malcolm x's his role has not been filled ever since he
01:02:12.000was assassinated not saying i'm not trying to be become but for somebody to unite american muslims
01:02:18.060being that a focus on that especially amidst all this propaganda don't turn into a fashion designer
01:02:25.560Yeah, well, you know where I think my goal is, where maybe I could be effective, is trying to be unifying to American Muslims the way Malcolm X was.