SHNEAKO - February 04, 2026


Lauren Chen Reveals The Truth Behind Epstein & Her FBI Raid...


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51 minutes

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9,781

Sentence Count

70

Misogynist Sentences

11

Hate Speech Sentences

13


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00:00:00.000 and you also said at this point yeah not only do i believe jeffrey epstein didn't kill himself i
00:00:03.520 actually think he's very likely still alive yeah i mean it's likely that i do yeah i think so he's
00:00:08.400 probably in tel aviv in a face mask sipping a red wine looking at the balcony reminiscing about the
00:00:12.880 good old days i think with with the whole epstein stuff most people kind of accepted that there was
00:00:16.720 trafficking going on there's actual references to murder torture and cannibalism yeah so there there
00:00:22.640 is one one email that says uh basically i loved the torture video but they redacted who that was
00:00:28.480 from uh there was also an email that made reference to the fact that prince andrew maybe killed
00:00:33.520 somebody hey lauren can you hear me yeah i can hear you can you hear me yes how are you long
00:00:38.880 time no speak yeah i'm i'm good how are you i'm great it's been it's been a pretty crazy time in
00:00:47.760 our area of twitter and politics and everything so there's a lot to talk about and i haven't
00:00:52.880 haven't spoken to you in probably almost a year right um more than a year i didn't speak to anyone
00:00:58.800 for over a year so it's been at least at least that how you been i mean it's been kind of crazy
00:01:06.260 on my end you know fbi investigation no big deal um so spent the whole summer in asia um which was
00:01:15.000 really fun but also really weird circumstances i'm back in the states now and um yeah just getting
00:01:21.840 back into the swing of things i didn't make any videos or any content um for over a year so that
00:01:26.520 was pretty crazy but how about you you're getting into beefs with pierce morgan did he just like
00:01:32.400 cancel are you guys gonna reschedule what's going on with that so he ran away from the debate that
00:01:36.780 he asked for this has happened many times with me and now in the lyrics of michael jackson you
00:01:42.500 know that i don't want to say is that they don't he said i i said that it was funny that he had
00:01:47.940 there's a picture with jelaine maxwell and he threatened to sue me which is funny because
00:01:51.440 michael jackson said you me sue me it's just the same playbook right yeah he's he threatened to
00:01:58.760 sue you over saying that he has this photo with somebody with but he did have his photo with no
00:02:04.520 he doesn't have the photo well i posted a lyric that yay said yay said uh why the fuck could you
00:02:07.940 go to that island it's a song from world war three which he's not promoting anymore but i just thought
00:02:11.880 of was funny because jelaine um pierce is really upset about the song hh but you know he's got
00:02:18.600 pictures with jelaine maxwell especially the timing and seeing every buddy in those files
00:02:23.160 call us goy it just it's like wait you're gonna clutch your pearls about a song but you're with
00:02:28.460 jelaine maxwell why would you go to the island allegedly yeah and he just had nothing yeah yeah
00:02:36.100 nothing he's running for the debate yeah yeah so before we get into all this stuff there's the
00:02:39.660 drama i've saw i don't know if you saw the stuff with elijah shaffer and sarah stock that just
00:02:43.680 popped up in my timeline i mean i just saw the thing with and like elijah and i we we go way
00:02:50.740 back we used to both be at the blaze together now neither of us are at the blaze and the show that
00:02:56.180 he did with sydney watson that was originally supposed to be me and him together um but the
00:03:01.560 blaze really couldn't get us to move to texas and you know i we've kind of i wouldn't say we're
00:03:07.280 friends but we've kind of been friendly and so i i just saw the tweet about him talking about his
00:03:13.920 wife and kids being kidnapped so i have no idea what's going on with that i didn't see anything
00:03:18.080 with sarah stock though yeah apparently i like sarah stock and elijah but they're saying that
00:03:24.020 she cheated and she there was a pregnancy i don't know we can get into that stuff later but before
00:03:30.260 we even talk about epstein and i'm sure that there's a lot of stuff to cover you were gone
00:03:35.400 for a year i saw something that's something with the fbi i don't know if you're still in america
00:03:40.320 your life has been absolutely insane since the last time we spoke what's been going on with you
00:03:44.320 lauren yeah um so let's see i'm gonna try not to trauma dump because there's a lot it's like
00:03:52.120 a very long story don't feel afraid to yap or to trauma dump i really am interested in the story
00:03:57.080 sure so last no september of 2024 this like it was just a wednesday and i remember specifically
00:04:07.520 that it was a wednesday like the first wednesday after labor day um the fbi showed up at our house
00:04:14.680 at 7 a.m in the morning they were pounding at our door screaming fbi fbi we were all still sleeping
00:04:21.040 um so like we kind of rolled out of bed and just as we were opening the door we saw that they were
00:04:26.960 literally getting a barricade ready to break down our door because apparently we had taken too long
00:04:32.600 but they didn't have to break down our door which was good and they served us with a search warrant
00:04:38.080 and there were like literally 30 armed agents with the fbi vests and everything um like armored van
00:04:45.860 our neighbors were all like looking at us um all gathered out and then for the next i think they
00:04:52.560 were there for around four hours they separated my husband and myself and then they tore apart
00:04:59.100 our entire house searched it top to bottom and confiscated every single electronic device that
00:05:05.180 we had and they didn't take our passports they clarified that we weren't being charged with
00:05:12.120 anything um but they strongly recommended that we get a lawyer and so then they left and it was just
00:05:19.780 me and my husband and uh they had let us call my mom to pick up my daughter
00:05:24.700 so she could be kind of safe and away from things which was nice and i know when james o'keefe got
00:05:31.940 raided he was like in handcuffs and in his underwear they they didn't go that hard on us
00:05:37.920 uh like my husband he was just in his pajama bottoms they at least let him put a shirt on i
00:05:42.260 suppose and it was um just very kind of surreal after they left it was like okay well we need to
00:05:50.740 call someone i guess but we don't we didn't have any cell phones so we had to go to walmart and
00:05:56.020 they also basically told us that our bank accounts were being frozen so we didn't have any phones
00:05:59.840 any money yet we put our we got this cheapest phones we could find and put them on our credit
00:06:04.440 cards um by the way if you're looking for the cheapest phone you can find basically it's a
00:06:09.000 Samsung A15. I think it's like 50 to 100 bucks, depending on if there's a sale. So that was my
00:06:16.940 phone for like a year because the FBI promised that, oh, yeah, we'll just have him for a few
00:06:21.380 weeks. But that was a lie, one of many lies that would come. And so we got our phones and, you
00:06:28.120 know, we're trying to contact our family to let them know what happened and that we're OK. But
00:06:32.340 also I'm trying to look up a lawyer because I don't I mean, I have contract lawyers. I have
00:06:38.680 immigration lawyers. I don't have a criminal defense lawyer, let alone one that deals with,
00:06:43.220 you know, I guess, federal issues. And that's, so this was like a few hours after we were raided.
00:06:51.820 And then all of these strange numbers started popping up on my screen. And I don't have any
00:06:56.520 of my contacts because it's like a new, a new phone that I just got. I don't have any contacts
00:07:01.160 that are registered. So it's all just numbers that I don't recognize. And then I realized
00:07:06.220 they're all journalists that are calling me and obviously my instinct as someone who hates
00:07:11.120 journalists is just no comment and hang up anyway but that's when I realized that Merrick Garland
00:07:15.640 who at the time was the attorney general so the equivalent of Pam Bondi he had put out a press
00:07:21.580 release essentially accusing our company of trying to subvert the presidential election and being
00:07:30.600 russian propaganda which is really strange because our company mainly licensed content
00:07:37.540 which is to say that you know our content creators had their own teams their own production schedules
00:07:44.100 uh you know their own producers they booked their own guests so we really weren't very involved in
00:07:49.120 production at all uh but apparently yeah they were being they were accusing us of being russian
00:07:54.800 propaganda and so what followed was the craziest i would say two to three months of my entire life
00:08:03.120 we started getting death threats because people thought that i was a russian spy so we had to
00:08:09.600 move our house and we also tried to you know we had to narrow down a lawyer that was good but also
00:08:17.400 not extremely crazy expensive because obviously we want oh yeah for sure um and no he's very good
00:08:27.140 and we're we never got charged with anything we're not in jail he was extremely expensive
00:08:31.980 but no complaints he's now one of my favorite people although i really hope i never have to
00:08:36.340 deal with him again just because if you're dealing with your lawyer things probably aren't going good
00:08:39.660 and yeah well i mean we had to borrow money from family to pay for a retainer because the fbi
00:08:46.020 would not release any of our funds, even if it was just going to like legal representation.
00:08:53.820 And so basically, there was a whole investigation into our company and media smears. We were never
00:09:00.200 charged with anything. Our company was never charged with anything. Apparently, Tim Poole,
00:09:05.900 who was in contact with the feds at the same time, he was informed like in December that the case was
00:09:10.640 closed and not going anywhere the feds did not mention that to us we after i think december we
00:09:16.460 didn't hear from them at all and um eventually in april i kind of went to my lawyer it's like look
00:09:22.440 i know we don't really want to touch base with them but i you know you've told me that i can't
00:09:27.980 comment on on this which makes sense but also this is kind of my job we're in a really awkward
00:09:33.060 situation like we want resolution so he finally reached out to them and they confirmed that
00:09:37.840 the investigation was closed they said they would give us our electronics back
00:09:42.200 but they are still refusing to give us back our money uh yeah never been charged with anything
00:09:48.760 and that's kind of it it was a really crazy time that ended up being a big nothing burger which we
00:09:56.040 always kind of knew would be the resolution but what's been really frustrating is that
00:09:59.940 all the outlets that did hit pieces on us accusing us of all these things absolutely none of them
00:10:05.240 did any updates retractions or apologies once the case was closed with no charges against us
00:10:10.960 um and yeah and actually like just recently online i saw that there are still people who
00:10:15.680 are lying about what happened saying that i was charged with stuff not true that our company was
00:10:21.900 charged with stuff again not true and it was just i mean it was very very illuminating if nothing
00:10:28.640 else it really showed us what a lot of people are like um when push comes to shove there are a lot
00:10:33.520 of people who were throwing us under the bus very publicly, but that we knew kind of behind the
00:10:38.540 scenes weren't our friends. But there are also some other people who, you know, I got removed
00:10:42.580 from group chats from people I thought were my friends based on everything that happened. And
00:10:48.400 they never even like offered to, I guess, hear my side of it. But there are also other people who,
00:10:53.740 you know, conversely, were really solid and, you know, did give us the benefit of the doubt. And
00:10:58.920 I think, thank goodness for those people. But it's yeah, it's been a crazy ride. And it's still
00:11:03.240 kind of ongoing because like i said the feds still haven't released our bank accounts to us
00:11:06.900 so they froze all your money yes they could just i mean you haven't been charged of anything
00:11:13.320 no where are you right now can you say so i'm in yeah i'm so this summer i was in asia because my
00:11:21.860 work visa expired in this january but because i wasn't working at the time china right because
00:11:27.440 of the well Hong Kong but yes technically um so but I was born in Canada so I do have Canadian
00:11:33.600 citizenship but oh yeah simultaneously when all this was happening the Canadian parliament decided
00:11:41.100 that they wanted to try to get me to testify about what had happened like a probe kind of basically
00:11:46.980 like a congressional hearing but the Canadian equivalent and my lawyer was like okay well
00:11:51.980 you're not going to answer questions there's an ongoing investigation that's insane and
00:11:58.220 Canadian parliament basically didn't take no for an answer and I had a Canadian lawyer and I had
00:12:03.660 to lawyer up with like two different lawyers in two different countries which was they really
00:12:10.980 wanted to screw me over and they did so we have like two different lawyers now and we had to get
00:12:15.020 on a conference call and it's just like they're gregarious fellows and in my mind I'm just like
00:12:20.040 that's a fun anecdote that cost me like three hundred dollars anyway so basically i had to
00:12:25.400 appear before canadian parliament but i couldn't answer any questions per the advice of my lawyers
00:12:30.220 and so they threatened to hold me in contempt of parliament for not answering their questions
00:12:35.840 because i didn't want to comment on an ongoing investigation i don't think they ever did
00:12:40.920 but because of that we're kind of nervous to go back to canada because canadian cesis which is
00:12:46.860 basically like our CIA they're the international folks they keep sending agents to my family
00:12:52.400 in Canada um and they actually asked my family members not to tell us that they were visiting
00:13:00.080 them to ask us questions about us which obviously my family members did um and they told the CSIS
00:13:06.060 guys like no we're definitely going to tell them you showed up um but yeah because of that I just
00:13:11.340 I don't know what's going on in Canada with with everything.
00:13:14.940 So when when my visa, all that to say, when my visa expired, we went to Hong Kong, not
00:13:21.440 to Canada.
00:13:22.620 And we're back now in Nashville.
00:13:24.880 There was there's someone at the State Department who was willing to, like, basically give us
00:13:28.940 a fair shot.
00:13:29.880 Our file is obviously complicated at this point.
00:13:32.800 But at the end of the day, there were no charges.
00:13:35.160 Investigation came to nothing.
00:13:36.200 So, you know, they worked with the FBI to make sure that everything was clear.
00:13:40.260 we're not a national security threat everything's all good they even like double checked with
00:13:43.980 customers and border uh protection and yeah so we are we are back in Nashville right now
00:13:49.480 so that's insane and I hope you're dealing with this in a the proper way I you know I've
00:13:59.820 yeah I've reached out to you a couple times but I'm sure that it was a major headache I remember
00:14:04.180 even a couple months ago I asked you to come on the stream but it was like obviously you're
00:14:07.940 dealing with so much yeah well we when we left to go to hong kong we didn't know when we would be
00:14:15.840 back or if we could be back so it was like and because there was basically i don't know um we
00:14:23.080 tried to file a renewal and i don't know whether someone in the government um decided to just kind
00:14:30.700 of lose it or if it was actually lost but we ended up getting a call from our immigration attorney
00:14:36.420 i hate how many lawyers i currently have but he called us on i think it was a friday and he
00:14:42.360 basically said oh yeah so they never you know acknowledge receipt of your extension or anything
00:14:46.780 like that uh basically you have until tuesday to leave the country or else you're going to be an
00:14:52.200 overstay which you really don't want to do that means you're in the country illegally and so we
00:14:56.220 didn't want to do that the rest of your family's from america right they have u.s yeah but it's
00:15:01.600 basically just me so and i and i kind of like half joking but half seriously i did tell my husband
00:15:06.780 like look if you and the girls want to start a life in america without me i understand if i can't
00:15:12.120 get back you guys you guys don't have to stay in asia because my none of my like my my husband and
00:15:18.080 my kids don't speak chinese and so that was hard for them over there uh you know in my defense i
00:15:23.620 like i have been telling my husband for like eight years he should learn from chinese but he doesn't
00:15:26.440 speak any um so you know it's not easy for them oh yeah very good okay thanks that's cool good
00:15:38.940 yeah yeah are you gonna do like a whole china tour like i show speed potentially but i don't
00:15:45.200 know if uh if they're gonna pay me like they paid him allegedly so okay there's a couple things
00:15:51.160 some people in the chat are saying like obviously people are calling you a spy now and stuff
00:15:55.460 i don't think that's true i mean it seems like you're you've maintained that
00:15:59.980 yeah so i mean a um people don't tell social media influencers anything so i would be a terrible spy
00:16:07.620 and b i've never been charged with anything essentially there's an indictment that the
00:16:13.320 doj released about our case and i don't know if you're really familiar with indictments but
00:16:18.860 usually there may be five to max 10 pages our indictments or well it was an indictment of me
00:16:24.840 It was an indictment of two people who worked in conjunction with our company.
00:16:28.400 It was 30-some pages.
00:16:30.320 So basically, it was a very elaborate press release.
00:16:33.720 And the thing is, the two people that were actually indicted are not in America and have never been in America.
00:16:38.540 So the DOJ knew that they were never actually going to be able to get those people into court and to have to prove everything they're alleging in the indictment.
00:16:49.080 So they went pretty wild.
00:16:50.600 There's some pretty gross quote mining and misrepresentation in there.
00:16:54.200 And, you know, it's frustrating because now people are taking what was in that very, very politicized, very biased indictment as gospel, which is funny because if everything what what the DOJ was alleging was true, then I'm pretty sure they would have tried to charge me.
00:17:09.780 But they never did. There are also some people who say that, you know, my charges got dropped when Trump came in.
00:17:15.680 Again, that's not true. I was never charged with anything. Even the Biden DOJ did not like they had closed the investigation before Trump had ever come into office again with no charges for me.
00:17:28.000 You know, I've been I'm probably the best vetted social media influencer there is right now just because of all of the investigating that was done.
00:17:37.680 Like they literally poured over every single electronic device I have, all of my accounts like Discord, email, everything.
00:17:47.300 They got nothing. You know, in the indictment itself, the the examples that they have of us pushing Russian propaganda are the fact that we retweeted.
00:17:56.760 I don't know if you saw it, but Tucker Carlson went to Russia and he interviewed Putin and he did some kind of like investigative journalism.
00:18:03.700 He had a clip where he went to a Russian supermarket and he was kind of amazed at how cheap everything was.
00:18:09.760 So, yeah, so we shared that clip and that's in the indictment.
00:18:15.120 So are they that's in the indictment?
00:18:17.160 Are they insinuating that Tucker Carlson is a Fed?
00:18:19.020 i don't know or like were russian propagandists because we shared that clip of him um you know
00:18:28.520 there's basically no content that we actually created ourselves where they point to and like
00:18:33.960 see this is russian propaganda because it's not i mean you know our creators like tim pool
00:18:40.400 lauren southern benny johnson they were operating independently they've had this they have whatever
00:18:45.760 opinions they want we gave our creators i can safely say more editorial freedom than anyone
00:18:50.960 else in conservative media like almost to a fault we were very very hands-off we never gave anyone
00:18:57.060 any calls oh you can't say this or oh you need to say that and i think you can bet your bottom
00:19:02.080 dollar if we had if there was anything they would have broadcast that they would have highlighted
00:19:07.620 that but they didn't and there's a reason for that it's because we were never propaganda and
00:19:12.140 And it's just insane to allege that, of this free speech of American creators.
00:19:17.760 I would love to see the DOJ investigate, if they're insinuating that you're a Russian or a Chinese spy,
00:19:22.500 why don't they investigate people who are taking money from Israel?
00:19:26.280 Like Netanyahu just came to America and openly said that he would pay influencers $7,000 to promote Hasbara propaganda,
00:19:33.680 and that you don't see any of them get investigated.
00:19:35.340 no so what's crazy is that i mean a like you said there's actually like what we were accused of
00:19:42.760 doing people have actually done but also in december so a few months after our whole explosive
00:19:49.100 scandal uh all the stuff about usaid came out about how they're funding the bbc you know they've
00:19:56.160 sent money to ap politico and it's like are you kidding me i think they sent money to eight out
00:20:01.700 of 10 media outlets in ukraine were receiving us aid money and it's like everything you guys are
00:20:06.960 accusing us of you were actually doing and i mean maybe there was no strings attached to that money
00:20:12.580 they still maintained editorial freedom i hope that was the case but no one was even asked no
00:20:17.740 one was even asking those questions of them and that was really frustrating to see it's just like
00:20:21.680 double standard does not even begin to cover it so can they do that to american citizens like me
00:20:27.600 do you think because during this call oh yeah i actually it's kind of ironic i got two text
00:20:33.060 messages one that a song i made called wall kisser was rejected from spotify and the other one was
00:20:39.540 from one of my ex-girlfriends and said do you think that they're gonna whack you and like so
00:20:43.100 while you're explaining this i'm like is this yeah maybe i should move how do you think you
00:20:48.920 would advise other content creators to operate knowing what they've done to you um so i guess
00:20:57.300 assume that all of your text messages and communications are being monitored like i i
00:21:02.280 mean i sound like a schizophrenic at this point but it's absolutely true they're spying on
00:21:06.160 everything it's true if you look through the epstein files there was a security guard at
00:21:09.200 the prison who said that they saw a truck arrive the day before that he apparently killed himself
00:21:13.520 and that was posted on 4chan from that 4chan post they were able to track his bank account
00:21:20.280 so nothing no 100 yeah nothing's every single word you type is is going to be investigated if
00:21:26.880 they want oh yeah absolutely and you know i i just got word that it's okay if i share this but um
00:21:34.860 so when we were reapplying for our visa uh well actually like mine because again no one else in
00:21:40.700 my family needs it it's just me but i had to go to a consulate to do an interview and you know
00:21:47.500 i've done this type of interview before i'm always nervous and it's always awkward because it's like
00:21:52.420 a government it's basically the inside of the embassy it looks like a dmv when you're doing
00:21:57.840 these interviews and um i went in for my interview and i thought that they were being a little bit
00:22:03.580 weird that the person who interviewed me was kind of awkward it was a strange experience and they
00:22:11.220 were almost like too patronizing like i had to wait and they were very apologetic and i was like
00:22:16.740 why do you care you're the government but i mean thank you i guess um but anyway they ended up
00:22:21.780 putting my they ended up basically just saying they didn't reject or deny me after the interview
00:22:25.800 they just said like oh you know we have some stuff we need to check on our end um you can just sit
00:22:31.240 tight and we'll call you and I thought that was really weird because I was pretty sure after the
00:22:35.200 interview it should go one way or the other um but I went and I I know someone in in the state
00:22:43.420 department who essentially told me that there was a donkey on my file and I didn't know what that
00:22:50.080 was and he was like oh well you know it basically it's a terrorism flag and uh i was like what like
00:22:58.800 what that's a new allegation i've been called a lot of things but that's a new allegation but
00:23:03.540 what happened is that there is someone who is still very butthurt at the fbi and who is still
00:23:09.820 listening to i think probably monitoring my emails so he saw because the state department doesn't
00:23:15.920 share this information with the FBI but he saw that I had an interview scheduled at the embassy
00:23:22.140 or sorry the consulate and so within 12 hours before my interview actually took place he put
00:23:27.980 that hit on my file and that's when you know basically we had to bring in like the FBI and
00:23:35.280 say like can you guys clarify this because the government I've learned this is basically
00:23:40.840 leviathan there are competing interests in these same departments and it's just a huge mess of
00:23:47.160 bureaucracy so other fbi agents had to like reinvestigate my case like look at everything
00:23:53.240 that happened is there really nothing and then anyway we had to kind of get that donkey hit
00:23:59.280 taken off of my file um after i was basically re-cleared and uh yeah so it was an experience
00:24:07.880 donkey flagged I've never heard this before but it's not a term you want to hear no it's not a
00:24:14.140 term you want to hear no but so who has ignored you who has ghosted you since then you know
00:24:21.080 beforehand I remember you were on pool frequently I remember you speaking to Pearl and you know you
00:24:26.300 were doing really well in the content space have a lot of people turn their backs I would say
00:24:33.200 in establishment media basically everybody um independent media has been like better um i
00:24:39.640 should i don't know if i should announce this but i it's fine like i'm going to be on james
00:24:43.760 o'keefe's podcast this month uh we're going to be basically talking about all of this type of stuff
00:24:48.260 uh but you know obviously the you know the tp usa's and the blazes what has been strange is
00:24:56.480 that I really haven't heard from anybody of that stripe or so it's that's kind of it's like
00:25:04.420 I understand that you know if there's all this attention and like the scandal around one person
00:25:11.600 this one creator I don't want to take the whole ship down with me you know so it's like I kind
00:25:16.700 of understand needing some distance in that in that scenario but you know now that everything
00:25:21.760 now that it's all said and done and i feel pretty vindicated about what went down the fact that
00:25:27.280 there's you know not really uh i guess i don't even know if like apology is the right word but
00:25:33.600 just like oh yeah sorry we thought you were a russian spy like that would be nice but i'm also
00:25:40.240 i'm not holding my breath for that yeah so same thing over here with the love speech community
00:25:44.400 if you need any support we've always enjoyed having you on and having these conversations
00:25:49.360 same thing over here if you if you need anything you could just let me know yeah it must be a very
00:25:53.260 difficult situation you know i know you have children this is that amount of stress i can't
00:25:57.980 imagine what that's like and also the fact that you're still oh yeah i was pregnant when this
00:26:01.440 happened wow so oh congratulations was it was everything successful thank you i mean yeah it
00:26:08.060 like i i had pre-eclampsia or kind of like pre-pre-eclampsia um i had really high blood
00:26:13.320 pressure throughout my pregnancy there was quite a lot of stress as you could probably imagine and
00:26:17.780 like it's my ob who's like a total normie he'd be like yeah what's going on with you is this
00:26:22.200 there looks like some stress going on and it's like i mean i can't really like tell him that i
00:26:26.660 was just subpoenaed to testify in front of canadian parliament under like basically espionage
00:26:31.980 allegations which is what happened but um yeah i mean you know she's happy healthy bouncy so it's
00:26:39.460 all good there and uh she was definitely it was actually kind of nice to have a happy baby
00:26:44.680 distraction when there was everything going on okay so yeah it seems like you're managing the
00:26:49.580 stress well you don't look stressed or so i'm happy well we're in a much better position now
00:26:56.060 than like a year ago so there's there's that i'm hoping that we're at we're at the point now where
00:27:02.040 things will just kind of get better and like i i know you recently kind of had your your your
00:27:09.140 tussle with like cancel culture and you know it's just you just got to keep going it's so stupid and
00:27:14.140 It's the kind of thing.
00:27:14.840 I mean, I think it was stupid right when it was happening.
00:27:16.700 But I think most people, like, you know, a month from now, six months from now, they'll look back to you and realize, like, oh, yeah, that was really stupid how everyone was freaking out.
00:27:27.640 Well, aside from that, so it seems like you're handling this situation.
00:27:32.800 And, you know, again, if you need something, we're here.
00:27:37.360 But speaking about everything going on, you talked about cancel culture and everything, people threatening to sue me.
00:27:42.520 and i'm getting you know i am facing my fair deal of attacks obviously not the fbi
00:27:47.080 breaking down my door and i'm not getting donkey what do you what is it donkey gang
00:27:52.360 a donkey on your file yeah yeah that's what they call it donkeys what is your take on the new
00:28:00.320 epstein file release oh okay so what's crazy is that the sdny the southern district of new york
00:28:08.840 is basically an infamous part of the doj it's the district that gets basically all of the very
00:28:15.440 political cases uh they are the district that handled our fbi investigation and they are also
00:28:22.160 the same district that was tasked with turning over the epstein files to bondi but they you know
00:28:28.820 they never did they were holding off they were reported they were destroying stuff so the same
00:28:34.320 people who are not prosecuting anyone to do with the epstein files they're redacting names of
00:28:39.580 people who are sending emails about torture they were the ones who are also about to break down
00:28:43.980 our door like these are the same people which is so crazy because you know we've seen like the the
00:28:49.860 doj under biden was weaponized to go after i mean james o'keefe uh douglas mackie the guy who like
00:28:55.840 posted a meme yeah and youtube admitted these people actually have google admitted go ahead
00:29:01.960 that the biden administration applied pressure on them to ban people who were speaking about the
00:29:06.260 2020 election and yeah like your channel so that was the reason and then they apologized and said
00:29:10.480 okay well that was the biden admin and you were right thank you for your patience but yeah go
00:29:16.160 ahead yeah and so like these are the same people where they have actual criminals to go after who
00:29:22.080 are doing really really evil stuff but instead they want to focus on youtubers it's an absolute
00:29:26.280 joke um but i mean that being said i don't expect anyone's really going to be given charges no one's
00:29:35.000 going to be i guess revealed to have actually you know done anything until i think you're either
00:29:41.180 going to need like a whistleblower or someone uh you know some some hacker is going to need to
00:29:46.380 release the real information because it doesn't seem like they're going to move on anything that
00:29:52.040 was released right i did see yesterday that hillary and bill are going to have to testify
00:29:57.260 but i don't think people are going to be incriminated right i think that they are just
00:30:02.020 releasing this now because they know but from what was new do you have any did you change your
00:30:08.600 mind or anything did this prove of anything that you thought beforehand this was worse than i
00:30:14.140 thought because i i think with with the whole epstein stuff i think most people kind of accepted
00:30:19.400 that there was trafficking going on but then you're seeing stuff there's actual references
00:30:24.260 to murder torture and cannibalism which was which is um i mean i know alex jones was always
00:30:31.680 on that train that it happened but i guess i wasn't aware of how bad things maybe were
00:30:38.000 where was that and i've seen people talk about it but i didn't see any direct statements or
00:30:42.920 files insinuating that yeah so there there is one one email that says uh basically i love the
00:30:49.440 torture video but they redacted who that was from uh there was also an email that made reference to
00:30:55.040 the fact that prince andrew maybe killed somebody uh while torturing them um and they're they're
00:31:02.380 coded emails yeah there are coded emails about stakes and things like that with how many stakes
00:31:08.880 you have left on the island and things like that which i mean i guess if if you're running out of
00:31:13.440 something is that does that mean that you you kill that person there's references to bodies at this
00:31:17.880 ranch as well i mean i haven't had time to do a deep dive but i've seen some people try to
00:31:25.760 shrug it away like oh this isn't that bad it's just boring it's like no there's some really bad
00:31:30.800 stuff in here actually right and there was one where epstein was saying that he secured an
00:31:37.280 interview with netanyahu there was one email where epstein said that robert maxwell jelaine
00:31:43.480 maxwell's father tried to extort massad for 400 million pounds or else he was going to expose
00:31:49.860 massad and then he ended up being passed away soon after and yeah i did see the one about the
00:31:54.700 two stakes and there was one as well about rfk it basically absolutely was laughing said uh oh
00:32:03.880 whoops about rfk finding yeah the suicide right finding the wife the body of his suicide right
00:32:10.620 his passed away wife but nothing you know it's not incriminating evidence this is all it's still
00:32:17.180 speculative it's speculative but i think we could you know you have to be ignorant to not try to
00:32:23.760 connect some of these dots yeah i mean like again based i had a whole fbi investigation based on
00:32:31.180 stuff that was a whole heck of a lot less like or sorry more circumstantial than these emails
00:32:36.980 so the idea that there's nothing going to be done I mean that's it it's very suspicious we're also
00:32:45.100 seeing that they're redacting kind of after the fact more emails emails are taken being taken
00:32:50.640 offline they see like the references to the Rothschild I think the number of emails where
00:32:55.420 that's relevant is going down meaning that they're removing some files but i think anything
00:33:01.080 that would have been really too incriminating they're obviously not going to release at all
00:33:07.460 even though i think they could right and it's clear it's deliberate i think that it's like
00:33:11.240 they're choosing to release because they've had these files for years these emails have existed
00:33:15.660 for almost a decade so there's one where epstein says that he represents the rothschilds which is
00:33:21.500 so funny because Piers Morgan yesterday was saying did he work for the Russians it's like
00:33:26.200 the Rothschilds weren't Russian it's like he said word for word I represent the Rothschilds I don't
00:33:31.640 know how many more pieces of information you need to determine who we know no it's pretty funny the
00:33:38.360 way that they're like it's very very obvious but I think the the reason why they're trying to
00:33:44.100 deflect is because they would love to just like blame the Russians again and also more importantly
00:33:49.580 not talk about the fact that there are massad connections like that's really what it is about
00:33:54.380 yeah same thing but that's also why we're never actually going to get actual prosecutions exactly
00:33:58.540 it's similar to yours it's like we're not investigating or incriminating or the doj is
00:34:03.060 not all up in the people's business who work or have connections to massad or israel but here they
00:34:07.660 are you know kicking down your door and freezing your bank accounts because they're insinuating
00:34:13.060 that you work for russia it's like it's clear who they think is the enemy and who they think is an
00:34:17.540 ally yeah but i think like the only way we're actually going to get you know unredacted files
00:34:24.540 again is if there's some sort of whistleblower and edward snowden type of person who would
00:34:28.540 definitely need to leave the country if he tried to do that or if like there would be some sort of
00:34:34.080 hacker who managed to get the files like that i don't think on its own the government is going to
00:34:38.360 will willingly release anything that could actually be used to put people in prison
00:34:43.180 so with the new information about the right wing what do you know about elijah schaefer sarah stock
00:34:52.160 this whole debate this situation well i just saw a tweet from elijah uh have you have you
00:34:59.680 streamed with elijah before not no i showed up i was on a podcast with him one time myron's podcast
00:35:07.960 with the girls and the soundboard and then one time he he had a big crash out on me because i
00:35:13.900 didn't want to do this podcast that we had planned and then he ended up apologizing and he called on
00:35:19.300 stream and did a lengthy apology so we're on decent terms yeah i mean i'm i'm i'm on good
00:35:26.880 terms with elijah i don't know what's happening here but he just tweeted out or a while ago my
00:35:31.760 wife divorced me and took my kids and i have no idea where they are i'm sober i'm sad so uh yeah
00:35:37.160 kind of seems like that's what's going on which is really sad i know sarah stock just got married
00:35:43.360 so i i'm really curious to see what evidence people have that there was an affair because
00:35:47.960 to me that doesn't really make sense she used to be no uh no yeah it was a phone call where
00:35:55.080 it sounds like she's insinuating that but i don't want to spread lies if it's not true
00:36:03.520 if it's a fake phone call or something or maybe it's not recorded properly maybe we're
00:36:09.140 misinterpreting it hopefully but i'll say yeah i mean i hope that i hope that's not the case
00:36:16.660 um because i i know she just got married so i like i really really hope that's not the case
00:36:21.580 i know she also she was kind of like i don't know if you were following with like email trad
00:36:27.500 twitter war over her engagement ring photo yeah that was the funniest one i saw that there was
00:36:32.580 a group chat with all were you in that there was an e-girl group chat where they were all discussing
00:36:36.480 the ring size uh Isabella Moody was upset about it Pearl said the ring's too small
00:36:40.680 and Isabella Riley said that like they were all like she posted a picture of a ring
00:36:45.900 which was it's I think it's a little funny because like there was no husband in the picture it's like
00:36:50.800 I got engaged it's more like us it's like a showing off a trophy rather than the the idea
00:36:56.140 of the marriage but anyway I mean it is just a ring and I thought it looked nice and then all
00:37:00.420 the e-girls were just seething some of them were complaining yeah it wasn't big enough some of them
00:37:05.460 were saying that you know she's she's this she's that what did you were you in that group chat
00:37:10.980 there was someone screen recorded you could see every right wing e-girl like seething i think
00:37:16.800 pearl like pearl created and this was when i was like not i don't think i was like on social media
00:37:24.700 but i think pearl created a right-wing girl group chat to see if people wanted to go on her show
00:37:31.040 which is like fair but then this happened and everyone was just kind of like very very catty
00:37:36.420 but yeah i mean men can't really understand how vicious women can be when it comes to
00:37:42.620 intersexual competition which is basically what all of this was like the women who are saying like
00:37:47.720 oh the ring's not big enough they're trying to shame sarah for having like a low value man
00:37:52.260 the women who are saying like it doesn't matter they're trying to imply that the other women are
00:37:56.280 like materialistic gold diggers it's it's very catty very entertaining as well but yeah that was
00:38:02.180 oh man i feel really bad for i guess elijah's kids going through this like best case scenario
00:38:07.840 your parents are splitting up worst case scenario i don't know there's some like
00:38:13.260 elijah was before alluding to kidnapping so it's like it's just you're it's just a bad situation
00:38:19.180 for those kids man i wish the best for that and the e-girl one was so funny because they were in
00:38:24.620 the group chat it's just like that you you would think that the right way twitter calling each
00:38:29.600 other feds like oh you're a fed you're a fed everyone's pointing each other calling each
00:38:32.140 other feds e-girl twitter is like you have stds you're a whore you fucked a black guy you sleep
00:38:37.440 with black guys it's like that's the the discourse is so and now it's getting to you know the alex
00:38:44.160 jones meme where he's like ju ju ju and then it's boy boy boy the discourse is getting worse
00:38:49.500 there's less like actual communication and just the most ad hominem attacks i've ever seen
00:38:55.100 yeah and it's like it is i mean i i do think there are differences within the right wing and
00:39:02.300 we shouldn't be afraid to talk about it like i don't think we should be high mind like the left
00:39:06.360 we should be able to talk about our differences but it it makes me sad when it gets to the point
00:39:10.880 where people are like disavowing each other and stuff like that and that's how i felt looking at
00:39:14.820 you know like uh what is that the club of costs like you know i don't think especially like friends
00:39:20.340 should be throwing each other under the bus or like you know the left is going to go after us
00:39:24.440 all no matter what so like we really when we're under pressure is exactly when we should be kind
00:39:28.940 of like doubling down on not um like i guess disavowing each other but yeah some people i
00:39:37.300 agree completely yeah yeah it's it's a lot it's very fake and i don't know about you but since
00:39:42.360 we last spoke i've been very public in saying i don't align with right or left or republican or
00:39:48.280 democrat matt walsh would call me a communist even though i just asked a simple question who
00:39:52.500 did epstein work for and he can't answer it and then people like pierce morgan are calling me a
00:39:56.680 nazi so it's like from both sides both people pierce met with jelaine matt walsh works for ben
00:40:02.560 they're both calling me each side of the political spectrum i think it's useless
00:40:06.840 from my perspective to try to align with a side or be like oh i'm maga i'm republic because
00:40:13.380 you're gonna have to side and there's gonna be double standards and hypocrisy everywhere
00:40:17.300 so i i'm just someone who follows god that's the that's my i'm the that's my political party
00:40:22.720 yeah and i think that's basically the only way you can do it and it's like i you know all of
00:40:30.420 the controversy over a song it i wish people were as outraged with like immorality and disrespect
00:40:39.180 to god as they were over that kind of stuff it's like i when i saw the stuff about the club i was
00:40:43.720 like what you're you're saying something immoral happened in that den of iniquity like that's crazy
00:40:48.940 i mean that's not the worst thing that happened in that club that night i mean there's like
00:40:52.660 trafficking that happens those places like drug use i i don't know it just like i wish we could
00:40:57.880 have that same level of like moral outrage for stuff that's actually like decaying society
00:41:03.440 destroying people's lives only fans how many like women and men have just had their lives ruined
00:41:08.740 because of that stuff and there's none of this outrage none of this like pressure on things like
00:41:13.860 that we accept that as totally normal and that really really frustrates me like we're gonna we
00:41:18.140 get into frenzy over the stupidest things meanwhile there's actual actual rot happening
00:41:23.940 through our society and we we normalize it we cheer it on it's really it's frustrating
00:41:28.340 have you changed your perspective on any of these right-wing talking heads
00:41:33.560 um let's see i something that was like i kind of was not consuming as much political content
00:41:44.280 when i was not making it also for a while it was all about me and very negative so that wasn't fun
00:41:48.940 to watch but um i started when i was in asia it was interesting my my twitter feed was all kind
00:41:55.580 of like more geared toward asia so i was kind of getting more interested in that and it's like
00:42:00.840 my husband it's funny he actually said he had to take a break from twitter when we were in asia
00:42:05.060 because it was too negative and too racist asian twitter and keep in mind like he's like in american
00:42:12.780 twitter all the time but the asian stuff was too toxic um you don't know racism until you've
00:42:18.800 experienced asian racism there was physiognomy maps that were going on around on asian twitter
00:42:23.700 of china like from the region of china that you are from so i mean it's good to put it in into
00:42:31.280 perspective i guess um like a lot of people think that america is is very divided and we are like
00:42:38.900 it is in a sense but also like the the infighting we have amongst the right i don't think it's i
00:42:46.160 I don't think it's reason that people should be ending friendships or professional associations or anything like that, because it's like it's so niche and it's so different than the rest of the world already.
00:42:56.240 And, yeah, anyone who thinks that America is a racist country, you need to go you need to go to Asia because it's a whole different level over there.
00:43:03.160 So what do you mean by the physiognomy checks?
00:43:07.200 So there's like people who are from northern China don't look anything like people who are from southern China.
00:43:14.380 And basically, you know, there's a whole schism between Hong Kong and Taiwan and China and Japan versus China, but also Korea.
00:43:24.880 It's just there's a lot of tension there.
00:43:27.860 And when we were like we were in Tokyo for a little bit.
00:43:30.800 And it's funny.
00:43:33.040 I feel like being in Asia, I almost reverted back to like factory settings.
00:43:36.960 like I never had like very strong opinions about Japan but being in Japan and like so you know I
00:43:43.000 I was speaking Mandarin in Japan um you know some of the like cab drivers we had they they are
00:43:48.720 Mandarin Chinese speakers and it's like you I've never felt such hostility as a foreigner as I have
00:43:55.240 in Japan it was like very strange but not that it's I still like you know it was clean it's safe
00:44:04.740 that's great for japan but it's like a level of hostility toward foreigners that i had not
00:44:10.460 previously experienced especially as someone who speaks chinese so they think that chinese people
00:44:14.640 are low class yeah they're basically like the mexicans of japan if that makes sense
00:44:21.820 okay is there an i'm trying to drop parallels there yeah that's funny yeah actually there's
00:44:27.360 a very um japan is very very strong with their immigration laws there's that um that new like
00:44:33.140 half a minister who basically wants to deport all the gaijin so there's that going on and it's it is
00:44:39.260 kind of funny seeing like i feel like westerners especially western progressives they think that
00:44:46.160 borders are something that donald trump invented and that none of the rest of the world lives like
00:44:50.260 that which is absolutely not true every other country has borders they have laws you can't
00:44:54.320 just like waltz in there and asia is a great example of that asia has very strict immigration
00:44:58.840 for like you know hong kong china japan south korea all of these places the very safe very
00:45:04.180 homogenous they don't let whoever just roll into their um roll into their countries and that was
00:45:10.660 another thing that being in asia was was nice to see it's just that that you can have a safe city
00:45:16.080 it's very possible uh it's not like a crazy crazy standard to not have needles and drug addicts and
00:45:25.180 you know crazy homeless people everywhere like we i was riding public transit all the time in
00:45:29.180 asia perfectly safe perfectly clean and i think america could very easily have that they would
00:45:33.780 just need to lock up the criminals and they know who they are in these cities but of course they're
00:45:38.700 usually progressive leadership so they don't do that right i don't know if you can see i have
00:45:43.340 your twitter pulled up here it's actually i responded quote tweeted this one from grant
00:45:47.180 cardone as well grant cardone said some of you guys are spending too much time on the epstein
00:45:52.260 files started to get concerned about your fascination with this topic and you put uh
00:45:58.260 you put i love that meme i love that meme so much yeah suspicious dokes from dex yeah that's
00:46:03.300 a what a weird tweet i quote tweeted and said it's like shut up goy buy my course it's like
00:46:07.860 they don't want you to think why is it wrong to to try to figure out what's happening in the world
00:46:13.140 yeah do you know who claire layman is no so she's um i think the founder of quillette she's sort of
00:46:22.540 like this idw liberal type of person she's from australia she went absolutely crazy during covid
00:46:28.660 wanted to put everyone in camps but she's someone who when it comes to like our tenant investigation
00:46:33.280 was very oh you're uh russian propagandist she's someone who also put up a i find the epstein story
00:46:41.280 so boring and it's like wait a second like a youtube channel where people put whatever content
00:46:46.760 they want that sparks your interest that's worthy of like a public condemnation but the epstein files
00:46:53.260 the most powerful people on the planet participating in a pedophile blackmail ring that's not interesting
00:46:59.640 really really at it pretty telling i think yeah they want you to be looking at the grammys and
00:47:06.580 looking at erica kirk's fireworks but epstein epstein is too far too and you also said at this
00:47:12.800 point not only do i believe jeffrey epstein didn't kill himself i actually think he's very likely still
00:47:16.500 alive yeah i mean it's likely that i do yeah i think so he's probably in tel aviv in a face mask
00:47:21.680 just under a prosthetic just sipping a red wine looking at the balcony reminiscing about the good
00:47:27.780 old days yeah i mean i i would fully believe that that's not even that crazy based on what
00:47:36.600 everything that's in the emails i remember you had a really funny one too about michelle obama
00:47:40.880 said that you know black women don't have the opportunity to voice their emotions i'm trying
00:47:47.780 to find it oh yeah here this was this one banged or oh no you got a lot of bangers recently this
00:47:52.920 one kalani says fuck ice he said so glad all these celebrities could take a break from
00:47:56.540 raping kids to lecture us about morality banger and there was one the michelle obama one i don't
00:48:02.160 want to um the chat's gonna say i'm glazing i have a highlights tab that i try to i try to
00:48:08.920 but hey he's not glazing he's accurately describing my hilarious twitter feed no i like x a lot and
00:48:14.740 i'm i'm i'm happy that um it seems to be the the platform still with the least censorship not that
00:48:19.780 there's none i i know that people are still getting banned their their posts are still being
00:48:23.240 flagged but compared to a compared to what it used to be and compared to platforms like meta
00:48:27.160 it's it's still much better yeah which is you know i saw elon musk was emailing epstein saying
00:48:34.120 hey uh i'm in the area can i pull to the party but still regardless of that i am grateful that
00:48:39.120 i got in ban on x but that stuff is like it just seems like and hopefully this is not true it seems
00:48:43.920 from the outside in that elon musk just wasn't cool enough to go they were like they were just
00:48:48.780 they just didn't want him ruining the vibes of the party when you're not invited back oh sorry
00:48:55.840 i have good uh yeah i have um some of my friends are texting me about the sarah stock stuff so i
00:49:04.040 have some videos apparently to watch when we get off of this okay so you saw the information now
00:49:08.040 well no i haven't i haven't listened to it yet but um apparently milo yiannopoulos and he is
00:49:14.720 someone who i would not want to piss off oh my goodness he has all the receipts um apparently
00:49:18.680 he posted yeah that's a guy you you do not want on your bad side for sure no yeah milo overall
00:49:27.640 yeah he was the reason that i got to work on yay's political party in 2022 really yeah he was
00:49:33.620 the one who set that up yay originally had my name in his phone as uh sneeko milo team
00:49:38.860 that was the one this might yeah this tweet was uh not to glaze but chat this one was so funny
00:49:45.340 uh michelle obama as a black woman we don't articulate our pain like nobody we don't
00:49:50.080 articulate as black women this video yeah yeah we don't articulate as black women our pain because
00:49:58.520 it's almost like nobody ever gave us permission to do that and does anyone care yeah there's no
00:50:05.080 they can't a black woman is speaking listen and learn everyone if we knew i think we would care
00:50:11.320 if we knew if we knew and lauren says ah yes black women a famously stoic bunch
00:50:18.140 yeah i've never seen like for the past three years i've never seen a clip of her that's not
00:50:25.060 complaining but yeah she's she's she's a podcaster now should i should we uh pull up some of the um
00:50:32.940 the sarah stock stuff or no sure i mean i've got a i've got bedtime in like four minutes but we
00:50:38.940 can i i'm good to listen to it if you want i can't hear you oh one second
00:50:44.960 okay should work uh what did you say
00:50:51.740 uh i've got bedtime in like four minutes i'll have to dip out but if
00:50:57.140 go all right well thanks thanks so much for having me i really appreciate it um you know
00:51:02.740 so happy that you're back on youtube congrats that's huge sorry you've kind of had the you
00:51:08.820 know social media storm after you but hopefully it uh it doesn't last and i i would love to see
00:51:14.460 you on pierce morgan though that i think would be really hilarious i'm glad i hope that's not
00:51:18.420 permanently off the table yeah well we'll see how that how that pans out and i'm glad you're back
00:51:23.640 and best of luck i know it's a stressful time and we're rooting for you thanks so much hey take care
00:51:29.560 and thanks everybody for for tuning in and watching me guess trauma dump it ended up being
00:51:34.060 trauma dumping anyway i'm sorry it just seemed like you were explaining the situation to be
00:51:37.260 honest with you but talk soon yeah bye see ya all right