On this week's episode of The Real Reel Podcast with John Rocha, we are joined by the creator of the iconic 1980s punk rock anthem "Punk Rock Anthem" and host of the critically-acclaimed MTV documentary "The Dark Side Of" Nick Fuentes. We discuss the story behind the song, how the song came to be, and the controversy surrounding it.
00:07:02.500You know, they say Matt Walsh says I'm an Islamic communist online.0.88
00:07:06.220They call me black and the black people say I'm too white.
00:07:08.380They say I'm like everybody's confused.
00:07:11.080And I think the new generation, what they're afraid of is that they don't have the same feeling of allegiance to political parties the way former generations did.
00:07:18.860When I was growing up, people would just vote all the way down the ballot, all Democrat or all Republican, because they had allegiance.
00:07:24.220This is my party and this is what I believe in.
00:07:26.040And then you look now and someone like Clavicular is saying, no, J.D. Vance is fat, like he's subhuman.0.92
00:10:01.180But I would also say, hey, they just came out with the latest stats, and I'm sure these numbers will be argued, but the most data – the best press data that we've seen indicates that the United States has given $352 billion to Israel, say, in the last 30 years.
00:10:20.680I don't remember the exact date, but it's about 30 years, $350 billion.
00:10:24.540And I'm saying, okay, I don't like big government spending.
00:10:28.880I don't like government getting involved in any of these things.
00:10:31.180But I'll tell you this, I would rather spend $350 billion on health care for Americans than I would for Israel.0.99
00:10:38.720I'd vote for that 100 times out of 100.
00:10:41.360Yeah, so it's ridiculous that I see people say, like, oh, you're a democratic socialist.
00:10:45.460We're thinking that it's good that kids can have access to child care.
00:10:48.700and then you have to support you know regime change in venezuela you have to support regime
00:10:53.660change in iran you need to go support these wars which we've seen the repeated mistakes over and
00:10:57.640over again and from my perspective i grew up during the iraq war i don't want to see the same mistakes
00:11:03.340made again you know a lot of people from the trump movement they're celebrating oh look venezuela was
00:11:08.060so successful and then trump is flexing on true social that what did they get from the world 1.8
00:11:12.080billion dollars you look at how much money we're sending to israel this doesn't even cover you know
00:11:16.160doesn't even cover the transaction fees they just gave another uh three billion i think last week
00:11:20.900so we i guess we need to invade venezuela three more venezuelas and to recoup the costs it's not
00:11:26.420this is not a major win you know so people are people are sick of this stuff yeah what about
00:11:33.440your audience i imagine your audience is uh probably younger do they even like politics
00:11:39.960do they even really care about politics or do they just want you out there
00:11:43.400mogging and uh and pushing back against the corrupt establishment the mogging thing is clob0.65
00:11:48.820i'm not a looks max or anything i i talk about i have my show you know i i saw your uh i saw
00:11:55.560your scarface outfit out there come on don't act like you weren't mogging sometimes yeah you have0.99
00:12:00.400to put it or you got uh sometimes you got to pop out of show niggas you got it you got to show0.96
00:12:04.060niggas what's going on but i do my political show i do a lot of interviews i go out at irl i guess i0.86
00:12:09.900you know but other than that i do yeah just now the iranians news i just saw this literally right
00:12:16.040before logging in for your show here they put me on and called me a american analyst and it was
00:12:22.940responding to my coverage of the iranian protests and how mike pompeo the cia director during trump's
00:12:28.920first administration he tweeted saying that the protests in iran are are controlled by cia masad
00:12:35.720he's saying that these protests have been controlled you know the masad are walking0.98
00:12:40.520side by side with the protesters i was covering that and iran is showing that to their citizens
00:12:44.640so people are putting me in all these different categories and to go back to your point this is
00:12:48.760why i reject all these labels is because from if you look at it from any people like iran they're
00:12:54.500calling me an american analyst matt walsh is saying that i'm from haiti you know and then you
00:12:58.040see the miami beach mayor is saying i'm a nazi i'm literally from every angle you get as soon as you
00:13:03.040have an opinion, people are going to try to box you in. And I think that that's all a control
00:13:06.820mechanism. It's a way to prevent you from thinking freely. Well, and again, I when I when I first
00:13:13.300talked to you, and I think maybe it's the same story with with clavicular, who I think is younger
00:13:18.400than you by a couple years. It's like when I kind of was first introduced your content, it was like
00:13:23.360you're not even really trying to necessarily be political. It's like eventually maybe everything
00:13:28.640find some some tie to politics but it's like you're not out here trying to make some big
00:13:33.400political statement or movement and i think you could obviously with with the clav you know this
00:13:38.540is a guy who does looks maxing and all the stuff that he's been doing for years and now it's like
00:13:42.640he's forced to make political statements like it's like it's like the streisand effect it's
00:13:47.760like here's a guy out here who just does looks maxing and goes out and buys a pimp cane as a
00:13:52.620joke and then you try to bully him and shut him up over some geopolitical opinion that he may or
00:13:57.540may not even have and so now he's like oh okay really well then i'm gonna go ahead and i'm just
00:14:01.440gonna say what you don't want me to say right i i agree with you it's not like i'm a part of any
00:14:06.300party it's just i'm anti i'm just i'm just a real guy you know i don't want to see more war war is
00:14:12.640bad you know i don't want to see or make the same mistakes i care about my country i want to put
00:14:17.180america first before foreign nations you know if i just follow these principles and then you get0.96
00:14:22.240dragged into these conversations and they try to they try and you know the annoying thing is
00:14:26.160When you see from the traditional GOP, I'm sure you've seen this, like the Daily Wire types, they will say, oh, this song is too far.
00:14:32.820This song you need to Patrick by David and his sidekicks will say this.
00:14:36.340How could you do this? This song is horrible. It's not funny. It's inappropriate.
00:14:39.600But then they will also try to gain a populist movement by dunking on trans people all the time and talking about how disgusting they are and say, oh, gay people.0.99
00:14:47.960That's so they'll they just draw the line only when they criticize when a song criticizes what is controlling them.0.99
00:14:56.160but everything else they can make fun of black people matt walsh can make a am i racist you
00:15:00.060could make fun of low iq somalis and but as soon as there's a song that crosses that line now
00:15:05.700now they're all upset now it's hurting their feelings so no it's like you actually you don't
00:15:09.720get to do this anymore facts don't care about your feelings oh whoa using their own words against
00:15:16.420them well i think it was you that made the point in one of your streams after the uh the boys night
00:15:22.120out which is just so true there's just no denying it you can play music at the club that promotes
00:15:27.640drug dealing and killing cops and gang banging uh you know they just had it was uh Nicki Minaj
00:15:34.100they just had her at uh one of the Turning Point USA events recently uh there was a Nicki Minaj
00:15:40.260song that popped up on my radio and she's talking about you know getting blasted I'm not gonna you
00:15:44.940know go into detail but she's talking about you know uh clapping you know clapping cheeks getting
00:15:49.660blasted and i'm just like and i'm like hey i don't care whatever we listen to music if you like it
00:15:54.160you like it if you don't you don't but it's like yeah this is the only thing like this is the one
00:15:58.860thing this is the one place you're not allowed to go and of course it was voltaire that said if you
00:16:02.520want to find out who controls you who owns you find out who you're not allowed to criticize so
00:16:07.440nobody's rejecting that philosophy we all seem to embrace that philosophy for for centuries now
00:16:12.360so it's like yeah i guess it still remains true right and they don't seem to realize that by you
00:16:18.020know banning me they call me up and former friends are now calling me up and saying i just banned you
00:16:22.980from every hospitality group in america so it's like okay what was that steiny you said uh what's
00:16:28.240his name steiny steinberg steiny was he denies it but he tweeted saying that he wanted to give a
00:16:33.460thousand dollars to everybody who brigades the club with one-star reviews and then he's like oh
00:16:37.820i'm trolling what i think is when his lawyer called him up and said actually no that's illegal
00:16:41.620you got to take that down and so now he's just joking around uh but yeah steiny wanted to to
00:16:46.720destroy the club's reputation. And another former friend of mine, you could guess what type of
00:16:51.680person he is. Well, yeah, he's a Jew. He's an Israeli Zionist. And I look past that. I can be0.89
00:16:55.720friends with different people. He didn't like the clip. He got upset, called me up on stream and
00:17:00.840said, I'm banning you from every hospitality group. And then the next day, these people are
00:17:04.280asking me to come on their stream. And hey, let's go talk about this. I'll come on yours because
00:17:07.840you have good intentions and stuff. This guy literally said, I'm not friends with you anymore.
00:17:12.000I'm banning you everywhere. But now I also want clout from you. And this is how a lot of these
00:17:15.820people operate well it's uh it's a weird world i think the streaming world the you know the media
00:17:22.800world he wasn't i mean this guy wasn't a streamer he was he's a club promoter you know a former
00:17:27.160friend of mine has nothing to do and he's literally using this to catapult his uh his
00:17:31.920career i mean i'm not trying to give it more attention than it deserves but this is just
00:17:35.300how it is now and you said if you want to figure out who the voltaire quote if you want to figure
00:17:40.420out who rules over you find out you're not supposed to criticize it's like by doing this
00:17:45.060by saying you're banned if you can't eat at a restaurant by making jokes oh i'm gonna get
00:17:48.600sneaker can go get a to-go box or whatever oh look i'm having fun here at the club they're
00:17:52.320like posting instagram stories sneaker wishes he could be here you are now creating more anti-semites0.59
00:17:58.500are you jealous you're not at the club right like are you oh you can't come here like no yeah the1.00
00:18:03.160club sucks fuck you and your club i don't need to go there second off you're gonna say it's1.00
00:18:06.740anti-semitic to insinuate that there's an overwhelming zionist jewish zionist control1.00
00:18:11.300in america right then you ban us from everywhere for playing a song in a club then you flex and
00:18:16.200you dunk on it and you make a big show out of it what do you think people think what do you think
00:18:20.300the goyim think now when they see what happens so nikki minaj who goes on turning point after0.98
00:18:24.820charlie kirk himself said that he doesn't like her music he said nikki minaj is convincing black
00:18:29.580women to become promiscuous erica kirk after charlie passes away brings her on stage regardless1.00
00:18:37.320of what he said to promote her and knowing that his organization was built off of his ideology0.89
00:18:42.360this ideology was this music is poisonous he said Nicki Minaj's music is making women worse0.98
00:18:47.360this is not a good role model so you mean you don't like Nicki Minaj's uh make make ass great0.89
00:18:53.760again campaign a little bit I mean you know I do like well all right you're honest you're not
00:18:59.820selfishly I need to control that obviously this is not the best for society but I'm not well
00:19:04.820Apparently, you guys had a bit of an impact on Nick.
00:19:07.380Now, all of a sudden, he's debating marrying an OnlyFans star.
00:24:49.780I encourage everybody across America, encourage your local bar, your local club, go into your local establishments, tell the DJ to play this song.
00:25:23.720In March of 2024, she went to speak at the city council, the city commission public speaking forum,
00:25:30.240and she was protesting because a lot of Florida's policies are very pro-Israel.
00:25:34.360I think they have the anti-BDS laws now.
00:25:36.260I think they have some protection speech laws as well.
00:25:39.880And so this woman was basically a Jewish woman was protesting what was going on in in Gaza, what was going on in Palestine.
00:25:46.420She didn't like it. And she was saying that, you know, I'm I'm a Holocaust survivor, basically.
00:25:52.300You know, I'm a Holocaust survivor. And now I see what is happening in Gaza.
00:25:55.940It reminds me the Holocaust. I don't know why we don't stand against it.1.00
00:25:58.600That same Miami mayor shut her down, stopped her speech and shut her down.1.00
00:26:03.160Now, Alex Stein actually won a free speech case, I think, in New York for the same thing.
00:26:06.920I don't know if that woman ever took legal action. I ever heard about it.0.99
00:26:09.460There was also a, there was also a young girl. I don't remember her name. She was a model and a
00:26:14.080club promoter. She made a claim that they all bring in underage models to these clubs and to1.00
00:26:21.700these after parties. And they all know exactly what they're doing. So it's just like the same
00:26:25.400thing. It's like, Hey, how are you going to judge me when we, it's like, let the first,
00:26:30.120let the first sinless person throw the first stone. And it's just like, you guys are all
00:26:34.240involved in bad stuff. Let's, let's stop pretending like this is the worst thing you've
00:26:37.960ever done or seen or heard completely true i saw that from the model and it's just yeah i saw that
00:26:45.600and i do need to reach out to her i wanted to but it's absolutely true every promoter knows it
00:26:50.300every club owner knows it they all do shady deals there's all drugs going in and out there's
00:26:55.020prostitution going on it's like this is the place where degeneracy thrives that's where you're1.00
00:26:59.840supposed to do in the club you're not there to be holy it's literally the rejection of everything0.81
00:27:03.960holy and things that are good you go there to blow off steam to have a good time to be edgy and0.99
00:27:08.640listen to a song that says fuck the police to listen to a Nicki Minaj song so girls can shake1.00
00:27:12.980their ass that she told them again that's what it's about right if you're there expecting to be1.00
00:27:17.500this is perfect and everything you're in the wrong go to the library go to the synagogue0.99
00:27:20.680well and if you do you might want to uh you might want to carry because uh those are uh
00:27:28.400everywhere right now I say this we just saw what happened in Minnesota at the Christian church
00:27:32.600folks if you're going to church if you're going to a place of worship i don't care muslim jewish1.00
00:27:36.720christian you guys better have serious security i i would be on edge i'd be uh i'd be ready to
00:27:42.040protect your congregation uh because i don't think that's cooling down unfortunately because
00:27:46.620there are psychotic people out there and i saw too it's like again there's so many problems we
00:27:51.660have so many problems in this country right we have so many problems that don't get addressed
00:27:55.800and it's just like we make we make the we make the incidents we make the big national international
00:28:01.520incidents about the most least consequential things and it's just that's what that's what
00:28:06.000gets me out of whack it's like hey whatever have your stand have your issue we can have debates
00:28:10.240but it's like let's stop pretending like there aren't bigger issues let's not pretending like
00:28:15.500our infrastructure isn't decaying let's stop pretending if I go out in Austin and I'm probably
00:28:19.780actually going to do this pretty soon I'm working on getting a collab with a couple other people
00:28:24.700here that stream and do live content in Austin I can go out to Austin right now and I'll and I'll
00:28:30.940show you people that are overdosed on drugs in the streets i'll show you homeless people that
00:28:35.460are barely getting by they look half dead and my heart breaks for these people it's not like i'm
00:28:39.780my heart breaks i see this in my heart breaks it's sad that this is going on in america i i grew up
00:28:45.080in st louis there are parts of st louis where guaranteed you're going to hear multiple gunshots
00:28:49.940every night just guaranteed gunshots happens in austin now parts of austin guaranteed you're
00:28:54.340going to hear gunshots it's like these are the real issues that we're facing it's like if we're
00:28:58.640going to sit here and make a national incident and draw a bunch of attention to something,
00:29:02.340let's find out why our inner cities are falling apart. Let's find out why there's so much
00:29:06.400homelessness, drug abuse, violence, crime. It's like, maybe we can address that. And if we had
00:29:13.000such a great civilization where none of that was going on, then maybe you can go after Sneeko for
00:29:18.400playing a bad song. Maybe then you can say, how dare you, Sneeko? Look at how pristine our
00:29:23.860civilization is look at how pristine and pure our civilization is and you want to ruin it with0.84
00:29:29.740something like this and you're standing there like okay there's a hooker over there uh there's a guy1.00
00:29:34.300getting a hand job at the bar oh that guy just sold a bag of cocaine back there uh they're all
00:29:39.560doing ecstasy over there sorry i played a song you're completely right owen and i think this
00:29:45.660people are seeing through it and you would think that those people that control the media that are
00:29:50.580all upset in the government and that they would not see what's happening it's like the average
00:29:55.160person and it really matters to them to have the trust on their side they have spelled it out
00:30:00.040very frequently that's why then yahoo wants to give seven thousand dollars to influencers
00:30:03.980is how important it is to get the public to trust you but when you do this moral grandstanding
00:30:11.440non-stop everyone is looking at it and like there's a fentanyl crisis here you know people
00:30:17.200are unsafe in their own cities you know i can't have access to health care and you want me to care
00:30:22.020about people going to the club listening to a song at this point too you know i'm a grown man
00:30:26.800it's been a week since i it's been a week since this happened it's funny that they're calling
00:30:32.120this an incident no we went to the club it's not an incident and you didn't like it just the
00:30:35.620incident the the they're gonna call it uh hitler gate or club gate at this point it happened it's
00:30:43.740the club of cost the club of cost it's literally another holocaust it's no it's not okay we went0.71
00:30:48.880to the club we moved on six million people died that night at the club and they're still they're
00:30:54.780still harping on it like they're acting as if it's like they're saying never forget it's another
00:30:58.460october this that date's going to be the next october 7th look my whole timeline and not to
00:31:04.340overstate it or to be too you know repetitive about the subject but it's like every time i
00:31:07.660open it's just this is everything people are talking about almost a week later and you're
00:31:13.340not to get i know this is a talking point from a lot of liberals but really i'm seeing far more
00:31:17.900outrage and way more outrage on my timeline and from people from the talking heads about this
00:31:21.800than there was for the past several years about the holocaust about the genocide happening in
00:31:26.240palestine about all us funding it there's a fraction of the amount of people that care
00:31:31.840the outrage i saw from these people the seething look in their eyes is not even remotely similar
00:31:37.200it's a fraction of what it was for kids getting assassinated getting sniped in the head for you
00:31:42.700IDF soldiers banging on the prisoners doors protesting for the fact that they can't rape
00:31:47.400more Hamas soldiers this is what happened in the past two years seeing it completely level0.82
00:31:52.780seeing IDF soldiers destroy crates of food cut off their water supply seeing these people live1.00
00:31:59.540in an open-air prison and then see Trump say we're going to make this into a Trump casino
00:32:03.360and then bring Netanyahu here five times the mayor went to go visit there Patrick
00:32:09.360bet david who's in his co-hosts who are all oh this is out this is outrageous they hosted that
00:32:14.320part the leader of that of the modern nazi party right now which is israel these are the nazis the
00:32:19.720people with the racial superiority complex who are genociding people he had him on his podcast
00:32:24.740to promote his agenda to spread the husbar movement so i'm sick of it and and i don't
00:32:31.960want to hear people keep talking about it so it's a club and it wasn't a holocaust well most of uh
00:32:37.580Most of the youth, I think, no matter where they fall, are kind of in alignment with, you know, whatever they feel about the different, let's say, religious contexts, geopolitical issues.
00:32:50.020They just young Americans don't want anything to do with it.0.99
00:32:54.320The culture is only going one direction.
00:32:56.180And I think that that's part of why they're pushing the gas on it so much is because they know that they only have a small window of time to get all of their geopolitical agenda through.
00:33:05.660but i will say this and this might help you better understand it you know uh the whole israel issue
00:33:11.340the whole fighting anti-semitism issue it's just black lives matter for conservatives that's all
00:33:16.500it is black lives matter is the left virtue signal social justice warrior movement fighting
00:33:22.100anti-semitism standing up for israel it's just the right-wing version of black lives matter
00:33:25.900that's all it is it's just a little more it's just a little more well-funded it has a lot it's it's
00:33:30.560more ingrained into the political culture here but that's that's that's really all it is um i
00:33:36.100want to ask you that's a banger i kind of would you tweet that yet that's a bang that's really
00:33:40.220good that i came up with that probably about a year or so ago i first started uh first started
00:33:45.620saying that um yeah zionism is blm for the american right yeah and it is it's their social
00:33:54.160justice warrior movement and just like the blm activists when you when you actually want to have
00:33:58.920a discussion or a conversation or a debate about it they can't do anything they call you a racist
00:34:03.400when you try to have a discussion about these issues with the right they call you an anti-semite
00:34:07.080so it's all woke it's all woke tactics um so yeah now that you now that you kind of have that
00:34:12.140framing of it i think it'll make a lot more sense and maybe you can even kind of approach it in in
00:34:16.320the same way um i have a question for you uh have you ever talked to uh i show speed yeah briefly
00:34:23.800Did you see Emily Austin and him when she crashed his stream the other day?
00:34:28.760This was a long time ago when she asked him why he's not a Zionist,
00:34:31.200and he said, why would I be a Zionist?
00:34:32.380I think this was about a year and a half ago.