SHNEAKO - SNEAKO 1v2 Debates Myron Gaines and Ryad Fudl： Times Square Prayer

00:00:00.000 The Muslims are taking over.

00:00:02.040 The Muslims are doing this.

00:00:03.340 I'm speaking to the fact that Muslims should not pray in public.

00:00:06.380 If there's a masjid available, unless they cannot get to said masjid,

00:00:09.360 then Qaddaq, go ahead, pray in the street, whatever it is.

00:00:11.420 I have no issue with that.

00:00:12.360 But I think a mass congregation at a time of tension politically

00:00:14.860 creates obstacles for Muslims that wouldn't have been there

00:00:17.320 had we just did dawah with the table.

00:00:18.880 I can understand if it's like a Christian area where Christians go to pray,

00:00:22.940 like imposing upon a place like, say, like going to the Vatican, for example.

00:00:27.160 Like that doesn't make sense.

00:00:28.120 That's the most extreme example, but certainly, yes.

00:00:29.900 Even what's the most Christian area of America?

00:00:32.260 It's certainly not Times Square.

00:00:33.280 It's the furthest from that.

00:00:34.820 There's nothing Christian about Times Square at all.

00:00:37.520 Muslims have always been the top ops, bro.

00:00:39.340 They've always been.

00:00:40.080 But unjustly, and that's what to point out.

00:00:42.040 Because look, we're being peaceful.

00:00:44.340 I agree with you it's unjustly, but you got to remember,

00:00:46.220 doing stuff like praying at Times Square,

00:00:48.120 which is a culturally significant location, by the way.

00:00:50.680 For what?

00:00:51.200 If you're an American and you're concerned about this mass prayer

00:00:54.320 more than the Epstein files, more than the Iran war,

00:00:57.360 more than our government being subverted,

00:00:58.740 then you're an idiot.

00:00:59.660 i don't think muslims are actually getting oppressed and we're doing something when you

00:01:03.560 wear the cookie monster shirt in public this is where it's taboo to question these numbers it's

00:01:07.940 exerting your belief system in a place where the majority of the country the majority of the

00:01:12.600 judeo-christian country doesn't believe in these numbers what's the difference are you fucking

00:01:15.700 serious it's an insider joke on a meme bro you are talking about praying openly with cameras on

00:01:20.380 at times square are you serious right now you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna facepomp just

00:01:25.860 explain bro uh come on don't run from the question this is a joke and the reason that myron wears it

00:01:30.840 is to assert that in a judeo-christian country where so much zionist propaganda is being pushed

00:01:36.360 i am going to be unashamed and i am not going to live in fear and i'm going to say the truth

00:01:41.160 anyway even if it makes people upset not live in fear and do it anyway okay that's exactly

00:01:46.660 the same mentality as the time square exactly the same when you're praying at times square

00:01:52.300 everybody sees that shit ah but who's pushing the propaganda against it and who's the vehicle who's

00:01:57.060 the one demonizing muslims the most the same people mad about that shirt i'm not gonna die

00:02:02.220 on the hill of a meme t-shirt about the holocaust but i will die for islam

00:02:06.300 hey salaam alaikum what's going on good alhamdulillah it's great to finally meet you i heard

00:02:14.160 you're you're a hafiz no no i'm not a hafiz i memorized some quran but i'm not a hafiz no no

00:02:20.440 no no no oh how many swords do you know 36 okay a lot more than me so yeah a good amount of juz

00:02:28.900 yeah up to surat al-mulk if you know where that is in the quran so a decent amount but i haven't

00:02:35.720 been good on my hip journey i haven't been good on memorizing ever since like high school when i

00:02:40.260 went to the mosque every sunday now you know i'm like in the matrix real life so i don't have as

00:02:45.000 much time but alhamdulillah yeah i memorized some what do you what do you got memorized i saw your

00:02:47.800 fatiha it was really good mashallah mashallah the one from two years ago was not as good it's

00:02:51.760 getting better now just fatiha right now trying to to get better like even atahiyatu is need some

00:02:57.700 work i need some work on my pronunciation yeah that's hard that's hard amen bro steps steps

00:03:02.180 yeah baby steps bro yeah it's good to to meet you guys the the foodl brothers

00:03:06.480 the what do we call this the dean and fit podcast no uh we we got some we got some ideas in mind

00:03:15.740 we don't want it's classified right now at the moment but you know yeah no for sure inshallah

00:03:20.960 we'll cook something up we'll cook something up dope well there's a lot going on lots to talk

00:03:26.720 about you know since uh we could we could talk about the war we could talk about time square

00:03:31.540 prayer and well first how's your ramadan going it's the last nights you know this is extremely

00:03:37.920 important yeah it's been good man i've been getting cooked because i've been streaming with

00:03:43.980 my brother and i've been having a lot of fun streaming so we've been covering the war this

00:03:47.980 war like kicked off right in the middle of ramadan so that's been cooking me haven't been getting much

00:03:51.580 sleep but alhamdulillah now these last 10 nights they fly by right any night can be laylatul qadr

00:03:56.540 so just trying to do dm prayer try to pray at night you never know if you catch that night and

00:04:01.500 um stay on my deen as best as i can man it's tough because i'm working a job fasting whatever

00:04:07.580 trying to train at the gym but it's been good it's been good i've been running through how

00:04:10.680 how have you been hanging up this is your third ramadan now no yeah third i could rose a seasoned

00:04:14.980 vet well no not seasoned yet still so my first ramadan it was i didn't really know how to do it

00:04:21.820 so i didn't count and so that would be my fourth if i took it seriously but this is my third

00:04:25.420 practicing one and last night went to the amajid in jersey trying to you know praying to hajid

00:04:31.200 trying to make sure that hopefully it was it was light of qatar the night of power that's actually

00:04:35.540 my favorite surah is that is that one it's a short one but it's very easy to remember as well

00:04:41.720 one of the first chapters yeah all right cool good to finally meet you guys so i think something

00:04:47.160 like the time score prayer is important because while they're trying to demonize muslims so much

00:04:52.360 randy fine is saying dogs are better than muslims you see other congressmen are saying that they all

00:04:56.440 need to be deported right the rhetoric that you're seeing about muslims in america is clearly ramped

00:05:01.780 up to justify this war. So I know that you guys both disagree with the Times Square prayer, but

00:05:06.820 we're showing what Islam is about, right? Times Square, this is the city where 9-11 happened.

00:05:11.940 People can believe what they want to believe about 9-11. Howard Lutnick building 9, Epstein

00:05:16.340 building 11. There's so much weird idea. Look, Larry Silverstein taking out a billion dollar

00:05:21.500 insurance policy on terrorism right before it happened. That stuff is, and that the purpose

00:05:26.320 behind the Times Square prayer is to fight back against that propaganda in a country and especially

00:05:30.800 in a place where so much of that is being pushed at a very crucial time so i do think i'm vindicated

00:05:36.580 because when they're ramping this up now and they do and they focus so much energy about how this

00:05:42.660 is not american values and this is this is evil and this is this is bad especially when there was

00:05:47.300 a big jewish rave the next day celebrating the antichrist we want mashiach now the fact that

00:05:52.920 that didn't get it was one percent of the same pushback it kind of proves the point that the

00:05:58.340 number one enemy of the zionists is muslim spreading is unity that we have and is that

00:06:03.620 that idea that belief comes before anything before anything and why you didn't see the

00:06:07.960 iranians running away from the missiles but you see israelis scurrying like rats hiding under the

00:06:13.060 tunnels like they did in new york when they hear the same sort of alarms well yeah you can you can

00:06:20.080 interpret like here's the thing there's multiple ways to look at it my thing is i look at it like

00:06:24.720 praying at times square exacerbates the problem and gives all these idiots the ammunition they

00:06:29.520 need to justify and say look they're trying to take over because hysteria is how they're able

00:06:32.920 to push the propaganda by saying look they're praying in times square right right you know

00:06:37.400 right next to where 9-11 happened like they use that to their advantage so like i understand from

00:06:41.820 your perspective you're looking at like hey we're showing unity we're showing that we could pray

00:06:44.820 peacefully etc we're not a violent people but you know that's assuming that people aren't

00:06:49.620 retarded and aren't going to use that for their own you know political pursuits and we've seen

00:06:53.300 the zionist lobby and the jews use this excuse to say look see they're trying to take over blah

00:06:57.480 blah despite the fact that they're only one one to two percent of the population that is why i had

00:07:01.480 my disagreements with the times square prayer because i know how they're going to utilize that

00:07:05.980 to push anti-muslim propaganda and rhetoric that's why that's playing it that's playing into it right

00:07:10.600 and getting angry at it does play into their hand because if you watch the footage everybody was

00:07:15.180 peaceful there were people counter protesting and blowing whistles and banging pots and pans

00:07:20.040 and trying to agitate the same way Zionist Jews like Jake Lang were trying to infiltrate it and

00:07:24.660 make it violent we maintained peace it was sanctioned off by the police we weren't blocking

00:07:30.160 traffic it was in a walking area nothing was interrupted so if they are saying okay this

00:07:36.140 happened in New York well people are starting to figure out a lot more truths about 9-11 to put it

00:07:40.800 lightly so abiding by the lies is not how you win it's fighting back with the truth yeah here's what

00:07:47.940 i'll say no about it like i don't think first first of all what i said previously by the way

00:07:52.880 when we streamed about that i don't know if you took that as like us trying to comfort you we

00:07:56.100 weren't at all but we were just talking about the topic because it was all the the hype at that time

00:07:59.780 but i mean look in regards to the prayer and that salah i think it was a tarawih prayer and i think

00:08:04.080 it was only one day was it a day or was it a week what was just one night yeah it was just one night

00:08:08.760 look i'm not trying to give you this angle because i'm sympathizing with those who aren't muslim and

00:08:14.340 i'm saying well you guys shouldn't be there and you shouldn't pray and never did i even say it's

00:08:17.880 haram there's no problem with that my issue is from the perspective of islam i think it's better

00:08:22.200 to always pray in a masjid especially when there's a larger benefit being your reward with that of

00:08:25.880 allah doesn't allah say the whole world is the whole world is a masjid the whole world is a

00:08:30.280 masjid but the actual houses that are built for allah are better to pray and your reward is larger

00:08:34.040 if you pray inside of a masjid rather than outside with a bunch of people in congregation

00:08:37.160 so it's better to pray in a message than you're rewarded more and you can fact check me on that

00:08:40.440 regardless of that though that's true the whole world is a message except for certain places

00:08:44.360 one of those being the street however i understand

00:08:47.880 time square is not necessarily a street with cars tons of foot traffic you guys blocked it off you

00:08:52.380 had it sanctioned by police and so people could walk around what i'm saying could it cause a

00:08:56.680 disturbance for those who are not concerned with themselves 100 does it put a battery in the back

00:09:01.040 for retards who follow laura loomer and jake lang 100 are most people going to see that and just walk

00:09:05.380 by and not care yes but i think all those things can't exist at the same time and don't cancel one

00:09:10.320 another out i think it's better for muslims to pray inside of a mosque not only for the religious

00:09:13.960 reward but as well as the fact that you do invoke some sort of attack or harm that isn't necessary

00:09:19.880 when the reward is less than that of praying in the street i don't see the return on investment

00:09:23.500 in my opinion now in regards to muslims saying well we want to celebrate our religion we want

00:09:27.100 to make sure that we're heard and felt totally understand that but i don't look at islam that

00:09:31.140 way that's kind of like to me and you know this is not any this or attack on any of the guys who

00:09:35.720 responded to you or you yourself but i don't think i think that's kind of like a left-wing

00:09:39.600 kind of coping mechanism like well we want to celebrate and we want to feel like we're heard

00:09:42.700 like islam is to be practiced you know it's in the masjid you do your tarawih you do your cm

00:09:46.420 you do your fasting you fulfill your five prayers and i love dawah but i think dawah should be done

00:09:51.400 in an effective manner to where it's direct rather than indirect i suppose you can i think it showed

00:09:56.240 what we're really about i saw the people responding to it and especially in comparison with the

00:10:01.060 the rain for the antichrist the next day i think people were learning what muslims are about and

00:10:05.820 that's way worse it's worse but not only that you said like okay so the rewards are greater in a

00:10:11.200 majid and not in a place where you know if you don't consider a dawah then then sure but if

00:10:16.360 you're going to go based off rewards because there's more rewards in a majid then you should

00:10:19.980 only play in mecca that's where you get a hundred thousand times rewards right then if you're going

00:10:23.660 to say that there's more awards here then every prayer should be in alaksa medina or mecca

00:10:28.000 yeah 100 but that's kind of a non-sequitur because not everybody lives in mecca and medina they don't

00:10:33.200 have the ability financially to always pray in mecca or medina what if you don't have the financial

00:10:36.580 capabilities to uber to the to go to a mosque yeah to go to a masjid in new york city everybody

00:10:42.540 what do you mean last night for example perfect uh anecdotal evidence i went to go pray to hajid

00:10:48.320 and all the mosques were closed in new york city i had to go into new jersey think about how many

00:10:52.260 people in new york city are looking to pray at night for the special prayers and there's not

00:10:55.700 even something open so if we have the street if we have this area that's sanctioned off and people

00:10:59.440 want to pray with others and this was available and the police sanctioned it off and they said

00:11:03.160 is okay nobody broke any laws then in in case yeah i understand you in the case where you cannot get

00:11:11.320 to a masjid then it's totally fine to pray in public and by the way i've prayed in public when

00:11:15.420 i had to if i can't get to a message sun setting i'm like yo we don't have time with my boys

00:11:18.700 we'll pray on the corner really quick what i'm saying is a mass congregation in times square

00:11:23.100 to me just seems unnecessary now you may argue okay but it's dawah we had people convert to

00:11:27.440 islam we had people look at the religion in a different way that they never looked at it before

00:11:30.260 Sure, you can't bank on everybody to think that way, but I'm assured that's a positive outcome.

00:11:34.880 But you also have to believe that Allah guides whom he wills.

00:11:37.340 Allah says this in the Quran numerous times.

00:11:40.100 And so if Allah has the will to guide somebody, whether it's you praying in public or them seeing a Muslim indirectly or them walking into a mosque or stumbling onto Islam on their phone,

00:11:47.760 I think that Allah's qadr, as we were just talking about, Allah's will, Allah's perfect destiny will lead that person to Islam regardless of your actions that you try and take.

00:11:55.800 what you can do to increase the initiative or further that motive is take to the street like

00:12:00.640 what warner does i love what he does open a table sit there have your qurans maybe you know

00:12:05.300 have your speaker have discourse with people for that i think that's amazing but praying in public

00:12:10.120 and you know part of it again we also had the dollar tables we were giving out qurans i think

00:12:13.820 several hundred qurans were given that's great i think i think that's i think that's great i think

00:12:17.820 the public prayer with the speaker is provocative i do think it is now i know that's not the goal

00:12:22.120 but i just think it's come off that way and when muslims are already hang on hang on when muslims

00:12:26.860 are already demonized that's a bad idea because instead we can pray in a massage and when there

00:12:32.320 is a false flag attack they don't have any evidence to say well look they're trying to

00:12:35.480 take over and like that's that won't be weaponized against us go ahead you go ahead you're going to

00:12:39.140 talk right so we were giving out quran's it is a form of dawah and comparing it i think now what's

00:12:47.560 good is you can compare the outrage that you see about times for prayer to a literal war going on

00:12:52.900 i'm seeing far more like american nationalists getting spiking cortisol and getting so upset

00:12:57.880 about times for prayer but then when we see a little war i said sneeko swear to god i said in

00:13:03.340 my video in my intro video you can go on my youtube channel and check it the first thing i said was

00:13:07.500 if you're an american and you're concerned about this mass prayer more than the epstein files more

00:13:12.860 than the iran war more than our government being subverted they are then you're an idiot and i'm

00:13:16.740 not speaking and that's what it points out promise you that's that's what it points out

00:13:19.640 that i'm speaking to are the p understood the people that i'm speaking to are the muslims i

00:13:24.820 feel like we should go about about our ibadah differently that's my whole take but that and

00:13:29.620 that's kind of like something i have to really substantiate and make sure i specify i'm not

00:13:34.540 responding to the zyotar to follow jake lang and laura luma the muslims are taking over the much

00:13:39.740 they're doing they're in the streets they're taking over they wanted to rape you to others

00:13:44.460 i'm not talking about those people i'm speaking to the fact that muslims should not pray in public

00:13:49.020 if there's a message available unless they cannot get to said message then go ahead pray in the

00:13:53.160 street whatever it is i have no issue with that but i think a mass congregation at a time of

00:13:56.960 tension politically creates obstacles for muslims that wouldn't have been there had we just did

00:14:00.660 with the table that's like my whole stance i don't think it created any problems for muslims

00:14:05.420 in america i think it showed muslims in america look these people are fearless and they're praying

00:14:10.380 in a place where it's considered provocative and you brought that up why is it even considered

00:14:14.620 provocative because you have a loudspeaker and you're praying for hours at a time when there's

00:14:20.860 plenty of massages available that's constitutionally protected why it's provocative to

00:14:24.600 people because could could i make the argument that somebody's what let me just say this sorry

00:14:28.120 if somebody's walking by can you guarantee they want to hear that or see that and i'm not saying

00:14:33.460 we have to appease to everybody but we have a shared space in the united states so that's why

00:14:37.380 can be provocative. That's why I say that. The only people that it was provocative to are the

00:14:40.460 ones that traveled all the way there just to counter protest. Everybody else there, I saw,

00:14:43.820 I mean, they were like peaceful. I saw like moms, white moms, hugging their daughters,

00:14:47.000 like watching the prayer. They loved it. Also, it's Times Square. Times Square is the worst part

00:14:52.520 of New York City. Everyone in New York, we hate Times Square. People don't go there. And if you

00:14:56.140 are going to Times Square to find complete peace and quiet, you're stupid because this is probably

00:15:01.380 the biggest tourist destination in the world where you're going to hear loud King Kongs,

00:15:07.380 People dressed like Mario, black people doing flips over each other, doing showtime.

00:15:11.920 This is where people congregate.

00:15:13.840 It's like a town square in a way.

00:15:15.700 And you see tons of protests all the time.

00:15:17.600 There's been Iranian protests, the Western Iranian diaspora protesting and begging Bibi and Trump for more nukes.

00:15:23.640 You see Venezuelans who are like, yay, regime change.

00:15:27.020 This is where people go.

00:15:28.600 So to go there like, oh, man, I really want to be so quiet in Times Square.

00:15:32.860 It's a melting pot.

00:15:33.600 Like, what did you expect in Times Square?

00:15:37.380 total i agree with that that's not what i'm saying though i'm not saying people are going

00:15:40.820 to times square looking for peace what i'm saying is if muslims are a minority and muslims are in

00:15:45.740 times square praying maybe not all these white moms that aren't screaming like jake lang and

00:15:49.880 laura loomer are going to express their discontent or their frustration when muslims praying in

00:15:53.500 public but maybe that's felt now i'm not even speaking from an apologist perspective for white

00:15:57.280 people i'm not saying white people need to be happy and so we shouldn't do this what i'm saying

00:16:01.060 is step one or the first foundation of my argument is it's better to pray in a masjid i don't think

00:16:05.260 any muslim would disagree with that and there's plenty of massage in the new york city on top of

00:16:08.720 that there is there is an aspect yeah but you don't have always access to medina you're always

00:16:13.700 going to be in the united states we wouldn't have all you said you said earlier there could

00:16:18.160 be a financial block to getting to a message so somebody may have to pray when all those people

00:16:21.340 there's not one monster in new york where all of us would have fit there's too many okay but

00:16:27.160 there's several messages in new york no but if we all want to congregate if we want to have a place

00:16:31.640 where one night for an hour

00:16:32.860 that's sanctioned off

00:16:33.560 where we all want to pray together

00:16:34.860 and everybody in New York

00:16:36.200 could be in one place, one time,

00:16:37.760 then Halas is fine.

00:16:38.880 But we would not have all figured.

00:16:39.840 Then why not a park?

00:16:40.780 Then why not a park?

00:16:42.140 What park?

00:16:42.540 That's what I had said.

00:16:43.300 Maybe a park would be a little bit better.

00:16:44.600 Somewhere secluded,

00:16:45.360 not in the middle of time.

00:16:46.740 It's like the most optical place ever.

00:16:48.900 Here's the thing.

00:16:49.260 That's my point as well.

00:16:50.060 Here's the thing.

00:16:50.360 And I was going to,

00:16:50.880 go ahead, go ahead, go ahead.

00:16:51.540 About the park.

00:16:52.660 The same people will complain about the park.

00:16:54.880 The same people who hate this prayer

00:16:56.160 and think it's provocative

00:16:56.920 and think it's bad

00:16:57.540 will see Muslims praying quietly in the park

00:16:59.800 and then they start harassing them and yelling at them and they're like oh base patriot interrupting

00:17:03.980 people even when you pray in a park where you're there's less people walking around you have the

00:17:09.220 same exact outrage because it's not about interrupting anything it's about the fact that

00:17:12.800 they just they hate islam already so seeing people practice their religion makes them angry

00:17:17.940 so whether or not you're in such a park i'm not i'm not speaking i'm not speaking to them they're

00:17:23.220 idiots if muslims are praying in a park which by the way on eid when there's thousands hundreds

00:17:27.580 of thousands of Muslims who take to the masajid to pray, they're going to leak out into the parking

00:17:31.280 lot, into the street, into the park. That's fine because that's Eid or any other special occasion.

00:17:35.920 But what I'm saying, if it's tarawih, everybody can make it to a masjid. I know you're saying

00:17:40.000 there's a greater war in Medina. No one's going to fly to Medina for every single salah unless

00:17:43.200 you live in Medina and you're blessed that way. But you will still get a far larger reward from

00:17:46.760 then praying in the street to praying in a masjid. So you should go to a masjid. Now, in regards to

00:17:50.740 people getting mad about praying in a park, I'm not speaking to those retards. Those guys are

00:17:54.500 idiots and my argument simply comes from i think this is more beneficial for muslims because of not

00:17:59.080 only the reward aspect but as well as the fact that it can create obstacles later where people

00:18:03.100 will say well why do you have to oppose your religion on us why do you have to publicly pray

00:18:06.140 and i don't think that that's a sound argument to try and defend all the time when from your

00:18:10.760 religion you're told to pray in a masjid as well as the fact that i said this in the stream

00:18:13.880 i'm not saying anybody was showing off i gave you guys kudos actually i said that warner and

00:18:18.500 sneaker i think their intentions are pure and i don't think anything they're doing is vehemently

00:18:22.500 wrong or anything like that but it can open the door to wanting your prayer to be seen this is an

00:18:26.960 aspect called the riyah which is a pillar of prayer where if you don't have or sorry this is

00:18:31.220 not a pillar of prayer a pillar of prayer where you focus that can mess it up too people banging

00:18:35.340 pots and pans they throw something at you that hurts your salah as well as the fact that you

00:18:39.800 never know if somebody's heart is intercepted and maybe they feel like they're showing off and they

00:18:43.260 want people to see them praying this can also nullify the salah so it opens up the door for

00:18:47.340 other evils as well i'm not saying those will manifest and i'm not saying those manifested in

00:18:50.840 you i don't think so i think you're genuine in your actions but i think there's that potentiality

00:18:54.740 which further concludes or further perpetuates my point hey maybe we should just go to a message

00:18:58.580 instead and i get it listen it was one night dude i don't i'm not the one going what the fuck but

00:19:05.360 when i see people outraged i'm going well i don't think the muslims should have prayed there but

00:19:09.420 don't misconstrued what i'm saying or like convolute my position yeah you guys have a

00:19:17.460 different me and myron agree myron has a little bit more of a nationalistic perspective where

00:19:21.600 it's like hey we're guests here and there's an argument to be made for that as well we make up

00:19:24.960 a very large i'm born here we make up we make up the premise not really the saying because i guess

00:19:30.040 it's abrasive in the way you take it when he says it that way but we're a minority here you can say

00:19:33.900 that and so muslims only make up 1.1 1.3 i think percent of the united states we're a minority

00:19:37.760 which is why anybody who's complaining is a retard but simultaneously you also have the fact

00:19:41.800 that since we're a minority we have to practice a little bit of proactivity and making sure that

00:19:46.200 praying inside of our mosques and not praying in the street that can cause tension or backlash

00:19:50.200 from it but i'll give you my response to disagree i understand what you're saying go ahead i want

00:19:54.120 to respond you said that it might interrupt your salon everything of course there's it's more

00:19:58.280 peaceful and imagine like last night somebody's ringer was going off and that was the most

00:20:02.040 distracted infuriating thing anybody can relate when someone's phone's going off and you really

00:20:06.200 want to lock in for qiyam or tari and then i turn off the phone and it's distracting but there was

00:20:10.840 an instance where you have the enemies of islam and you can even see that they start ramping up

00:20:15.480 specific types of recitation. And when I was praying there, it actually strengthened my dean

00:20:20.980 because it made me more aware of the enemies and where we are. And if you're talking about

00:20:27.620 rewards specifically, I think that there is a reward in Dawa. And I'm not a scholar. I don't

00:20:32.640 know how to relate it specifically, but there is value in the land of Epstein regime with so much

00:20:39.340 propaganda, showing unity and fighting back against that propaganda and showing Muslims

00:20:44.580 all over the country that we don't need to be afraid that we don't need to submit to all the

00:20:49.160 propaganda calling us terrorists and evil people showing what we're about which is worshiping the

00:20:53.680 one true god the same god that in the catholic church they say that we said that we worship the

00:20:57.860 father showing what we're about and showing what the religion is in this world of so much propaganda

00:21:03.440 there's value in that i think it inspires a lot of people i think it points out the double standard

00:21:07.760 and and i think it helps out in general well i agree well i agree with you firstly if a phone

00:21:14.360 goes off in a mosque, that's really annoying, but that's still not akin to people banging pots and

00:21:18.020 pans and bright lights going off everywhere around you if you're in Times Square. But that's

00:21:21.360 definitely true. In regards to indirect da'wah, can praying be effective? Yes. Something that I

00:21:26.860 think is more effective and Muslims have the opportunity to seize every day is how you carry

00:21:30.960 yourself as a Muslim. No one's going to open a Quran more often than not. So how you carry

00:21:34.640 yourself, your demeanor is that of a Quran, is that of hadith. That's what people are going to

00:21:38.640 take at face value for Islam. So I think da'wah is great. I think doing a da'wah table like

00:21:42.400 Shaykh Uthman, may Allah bless him.

00:21:43.720 Shaykh Warner, may Allah bless him.

00:21:45.600 But I think even a more effective way of da'wah

00:21:48.000 is your character, your actions, your demeanor.

00:21:50.580 I think that speaks volumes louder.

00:21:52.740 I think that that makes a far larger or wider pitch

00:21:55.580 than that of praying in public with the speaker.

00:21:57.780 I think that that can turn people off the right way.

00:22:00.080 I think the message may not actually penetrate

00:22:02.400 the receiving source correctly

00:22:04.320 if you're praying in public.

00:22:05.760 I think there can be some disconnect there.

00:22:07.320 Whereas if my actions, my demeanor, my character is A1

00:22:11.220 and everybody goes, Riyadh's the only Muslim I know.

00:22:13.520 And man, that guy doesn't do this.

00:22:15.240 That guy doesn't do that.

00:22:16.040 This guy's really sweet.

00:22:16.860 He's gracious.

00:22:17.440 I saw him help an old lady cross the street,

00:22:19.060 whatever the hell, right?

00:22:19.660 These are just random situations.

00:22:21.080 Well, then I think that's more effective

00:22:22.180 and I think that's more charitable

00:22:23.400 or that has a lot more grace

00:22:25.160 in traveling a further distance

00:22:26.320 than that of maybe praying in Times Square.

00:22:28.380 The thing is though, they're never gonna be,

00:22:30.740 they hate Islam.

00:22:31.780 So whether it's a dollar table,

00:22:33.460 whether it's a character.

00:22:34.280 I forgot this, I forgot this.

00:22:35.580 I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I forgot this.

00:22:36.880 Also, you said we're in a battle

00:22:38.420 and like, you know, so we have to fight

00:22:40.100 and stand our ground.

00:22:41.140 I don't think that's the case.

00:22:42.120 I think we're in the United States.

00:22:43.140 I don't think anybody's like going out of their way

00:22:44.580 to attack Muslims.

00:22:45.300 Now, if it was 2002 post 9-11 after Muslims were demonized

00:22:47.860 and my mom was actually attacked in public before,

00:22:49.980 then that's a different situation.

00:22:51.120 But for it to be like this battle,

00:22:52.840 I think the battle is won through peace

00:22:54.540 by us showing people that we're better than them

00:22:56.300 by not responding to their hate of Islam,

00:22:58.580 by praying in their face.

00:22:59.740 Rather, we go to our masajid.

00:23:01.520 Our religion is growing the fastest already.

00:23:03.740 Why is there this need to do this big public display

00:23:06.440 of dawah in order for people to understand

00:23:07.960 we're effectuating our religion quicker than others?

00:23:09.640 the religion is doing the ground covering by itself because i think it's true because i think

00:23:15.120 it makes sense it's most coherent and i've said that on stream but i think islam is already

00:23:19.200 covering so much ground without us having to pray when we pray then we add fuel to that argument of

00:23:25.180 well why are they like imposing themselves you know what i mean i feel like more of a coexisting

00:23:29.740 idea or a package of islam they don't want to coexist they don't want to coexist look at what

00:23:34.620 the congressman you can't please everybody i agree you can't please everybody no matter what

00:23:38.720 the thing is the thing is no matter what we do if it's a dawah table if it's your character

00:23:44.400 the existence of muslims the people that are warmongering freaks supporting zionism that

00:23:50.300 control the administration the government right now are trying to deport us and they've made it

00:23:54.980 clear word for word they want us eradicated from this country regardless no matter what you do if

00:24:00.080 it's a dawah table if it's you reading quran in public if it's you speaking to somebody just your

00:24:04.760 existence they see as a threat not because of terrorism but because it is the truth and we

00:24:10.240 can't ever try to compromise or no matter what i can understand you're saying like okay maybe this

00:24:14.680 is too big of a public display no matter what we do they are going to try to use us as the enemy

00:24:20.800 to make people think that this war is justified everything that the israelis are doing they

00:24:25.260 accuse muslims of terrorism i agree spreading hate i agree you know fully agree so so the way i see

00:24:32.600 it like of course i'm not here trying to spread sharia law but compromising and thinking okay

00:24:37.480 maybe i shouldn't pray here to try to offend anybody living in that state of compromise

00:24:42.500 is not how i want to exist okay i agree it but i don't think it's compromise i think it's

00:24:49.320 respectful coexistence and you're saying well you know people are attacking islam no matter what we

00:24:54.020 do that's fine fuck them if a muslim is praying on the corner because he can't make it to maghrib

00:24:58.960 in time and the sun is setting he has to break his fast whatever let him pray if anybody attacks

00:25:02.240 him he's an idiot if some american patriots on the beach or in the park saying you muslims need

00:25:06.400 to get the fuck out he's a retard i'm not speaking to that what i'm saying though is if we have a

00:25:12.820 situation that could have been avoided like time square and people are responding to that then i'll

00:25:16.600 address it but if a muslim is doing something that he needs to do if he's fasting if a woman is

00:25:20.560 wearing her hijab if if like a muslim is practicing in a way that he can't avoid practicing that way

00:25:24.780 publicly or privately then that's different people who speak to that are dumbasses but i can kind of

00:25:29.240 understand the voice that says hey does the prayer really need to have to be in time square for an

00:25:33.840 hour with the loudspeaker i can hear that i can understand that and so that's why i give the

00:25:37.760 islamic perspective hey this isn't even beneficial from islam if islam said pray in public impose

00:25:43.440 yourself let people know how you pray or even i won't weaponize the language okay i'll be fair

00:25:48.120 i'll be charitable islam says pray in public it's better pray where people can see you always pray

00:25:52.840 in public if the message is available is still better then i would never be saying that but i

00:25:56.400 just believe from a religious perspective as well as everything else i mentioned from optics it's

00:26:00.520 just not the best roi type of situation although i can understand what you're saying muslims are

00:26:04.580 under attack you should never compromise but that means you should still try and coexist don't let

00:26:09.120 you trying to not compromise turn into a lack of coexistence oh they don't want to let me say

00:26:14.420 allah they don't want to let me read my quran fuck that i'm about to pray in times square every

00:26:17.940 day it's like no but it is coexisting coexist peacefully but it is do your dawah indirectly

00:26:22.720 by a good character and morale it is coexisting peacefully we have freedom of religion in this

00:26:26.720 country nobody was infringing upon anybody nobody was being blocked the police let it allowed us to

00:26:32.300 be there we didn't break a law you're supposed to obey the law of the land i agree i didn't say

00:26:35.640 there's there was no aspect showing that we nothing was interrupted look from legality 100

00:26:42.620 fine even from haram halal level halal do i think maybe it's makrooh a little bit sure and i've

00:26:50.120 seen scholars say that you shouldn't pray in Times Square but I know there's scholars who will say

00:26:53.620 you should pray in Times Square I won't even speak to the scholars I'm just speaking politically and

00:26:56.960 culturally maybe not the best moves for Muslims if we want longevity and our religion to spread

00:27:01.480 in an organic fashion that's my point and everything I said kind of ties into that but

00:27:05.260 looking back I think there were more positives than negatives and I know you and Myron had

00:27:10.240 different takes on it Myron was like look you had permits it was blocked off the police were

00:27:14.520 protecting it I didn't say it was illegal no no I didn't say that you guys had different

00:27:19.000 mine was a lot angry about it he said it was a horrible idea and you know you said a lot of

00:27:25.460 things like you what else did you say like you're going to stay muslim because you want to keep the

00:27:28.940 iq up and that these people are interrupting yeah you guys have have different takes but

00:27:33.620 if you actually took it verbatim that was clearly sarcasm so what was your perspective i'll say this

00:27:39.560 though what was your perspective iron when i said that when i said that on twitter that i would

00:27:43.920 overall your your take on on the times square prayer it's completely unnecessary and retarded

00:27:49.800 yeah looking back i think it did a lot more positives brother i think my brother articulated

00:27:55.700 from a religious perspective why it's retarded um i think it's retarded from a social and political

00:28:00.180 uh perspective it's just there's like no upside really to it like at all yeah it changed so many

00:28:06.600 people's perspective about it it showed the different outrage that people have i think it

00:28:10.920 pointed out a lot of the double standards and it made people less fearful to be muslim in america

00:28:16.360 and if people are having irani protests like with loud loudspeakers they're screaming in public

00:28:21.320 they have gay pride parades there the fact that people are this is it's what it shows

00:28:25.960 is that this is what is most hated in america what's most hated over everything

00:28:31.480 we've known that since 9 11 we didn't know no no not not but everybody now realizes that

00:28:36.040 because there's not one percent of the outrage about iran protests about gay pride parades or

00:28:40.120 even about an antichrist celebration if everybody is going to and oh my god they're praying time

00:28:45.160 square because i'm i am significantly older than both of you guys dude it's always been

00:28:51.640 muslims have always been the top ops bro they've always been but unjustly and that's what to point

00:28:56.600 out because look look we're being we're being peaceful i agree with you it's unjustly but you

00:29:01.640 gotta remember uh doing stuff like praying at time square which is a culturally significant

00:29:06.680 location by the way that's very time america american culture i know yeah new york city is

00:29:13.460 the biggest city in the united states times square is culturally significant i live in new york like

00:29:18.160 i was born here i know you're born in new york too it's culturally significant to show ads with

00:29:23.260 like half naked women to show goyslop tv so people could sell drugs and cds so people could do back

00:29:29.020 flips this is a place where it's just mostly degenerate stupid things happen all the time

00:29:33.760 so if they're saying muslims are evil muslims are terrorists all the time we show we're actually

00:29:37.520 these are peaceful people who are just gathering and not bothering anybody you fight back against

00:29:42.060 that and that's important again yeah this is a muslim country to fight back this is a muslim

00:29:48.360 country it's not a christian country either if you look at john adams treaty triple e 1790

00:29:52.180 they said specifically the founding father said this is not a christian country i'll say i'll say

00:29:57.440 this okay i'll say this let me just say this really good you want to i'll say this really

00:30:01.480 quickly well first of all again and i want to reiterate this because i know this shit's going

00:30:06.600 to get clipped up and i want to make sure the clippers catch this part if anything

00:30:09.240 if you are concerned about muslims praying more than epstein more than iran more than the other

00:30:15.880 issues our country faces more than the fact that our government is subverted donald trump is

00:30:19.620 subverted like you're an idiot and i don't speak to you and my talking points are not to talk to

00:30:23.820 you but what i am saying is the roi is not there islamically politically culturally that's i just

00:30:29.460 wanted to tie that together in terms of like you saying time square is degenerate and stuff i mean

00:30:33.740 yeah the entire united states is degenerate you can argue the united states is more so kind of

00:30:39.240 look it's obviously majority christian culturally it's majority christian protestant now protestants

00:30:43.800 are kind of loosening their religion they're damn near secular they're half naked they don't

00:30:47.520 practice they never go to church except for easter and christmas understood culturally though i don't

00:30:52.980 think it's necessary for us to try and like fight back i don't think that that battle really exists

00:30:57.720 and maybe that's in my experience by the way i live right outside of new york i'm very close

00:31:01.080 and i'm in new york all the time i feel like muslims have more than enough room there to

00:31:05.000 practice and be public with their religion without praying in public in this mass congregation i see

00:31:10.360 guys i see guys in kufis walking down the street all the time you know brother like like it's like

00:31:15.640 new york is vibes during ramadan you know i'll just say this because since you guys are having

00:31:19.160 this discussion like even if even if you don't agree that this is a christian country it's more

00:31:24.040 more of a christian country than a muslim country and that's a fact well here again and here's the

00:31:28.940 point this prayer in times square if you look up the definition of fatiha and how we worship god

00:31:34.920 and god alone is far more christ-like than anything else that happens in times square

00:31:40.380 so why are people so outraged about this prayer which really overlaps a lot with christianity if

00:31:46.580 it is a majority christian country but when you see drug deals and you see all the stuff that

00:31:51.540 goes on in times square half naked protests slut walks gay pride parades this has nothing to do

00:31:57.460 with christianity and they don't say a word but this prayer overlaps the christianity so much and

00:32:02.140 so if it's a majority christian country there should be like okay actually this is good that

00:32:05.820 they're they're worshiping god they're worshiping what the vatican church says is the father they're

00:32:10.360 showing peace and solidarity they're not bothering anybody and they're showing brotherhood that

00:32:15.680 aligns with the idea and overlaps with the the argument that it's a christian country

00:32:20.080 Let me be clear about this, man. When I say that public prayer is retarded, I'm talking specifically about New York Times Square. I don't care if you do it in a park. I don't care about any of that. My argument is literally a limited purview of Times Square only because of its significant social, cultural, and economic significance.

00:32:36.220 it doesn't like people are obviously going to get pissed off watching muslims pray at times square

00:32:40.940 when we are still living in a 9 11 era again i'm a little bit older so i can remember back

00:32:45.800 maybe younger younger people might not remember i get a lot of your audience is younger and they

00:32:49.380 don't get it but there's always been this negative stigma against muslims and i look at it like

00:32:53.800 praying at a culturally significant location like that is gonna backfire and it has more downsides

00:32:58.500 and upsides are there upsides sure but i think there's more downsides and then the other thing

00:33:02.420 too that's important if you went ahead and took christians and you took them to a significantly

00:33:06.400 uh cultural location let's say uae which is you know not really a muslim country like it's a

00:33:11.440 muslim country but it's not necessarily religious you took 50 christians and they pray in front of

00:33:15.120 the burj khalifa bro they're going to jail so the lack of reciprocation is that even true

00:33:19.080 100 they would go to jail christians for praying in the in the uae yes 100 they would be what's

00:33:26.560 What proof do we have of that?

00:33:30.080 Okay, let's go ahead and try.

00:33:30.820 There's no doubt that a Christian public

00:33:32.780 can pray in front of the Burj Khalifa

00:33:34.600 and not be thrown out and or stopped, bro.

00:33:36.760 They would be stopped immediately.

00:33:37.640 Absolutely, they could.

00:33:38.380 Why would they not be allowed to?

00:33:41.060 The point I'm trying to make here is

00:33:43.840 Islam does not allow the same reciprocation

00:33:46.440 that you're asking for.

00:33:47.340 That's what I'm trying to explain to you.

00:33:48.600 There's so many Christians in Iran.

00:33:50.220 They have train stations dedicated to Mother Mary,

00:33:52.820 Lebanon, who Israel's bombing right now.

00:33:54.880 so many catholics right next to churches they say that all these muslim countries with these

00:33:59.000 muslim countries allow for other religions to coexist i think that there's more christians

00:34:03.480 in saudi than there are muslims in america not in a culturally significant location

00:34:08.720 i don't think that's true yeah like dude you think christians cannot pray there's not more

00:34:14.460 christians in saudi than there are muslims in america that definitely can't be true google it

00:34:18.240 bro again and this is what makes islam so good by the way fyi is that it doesn't it doesn't bend

00:34:23.660 and fold right like that's actually a good thing but what i'm saying is that you're asking for

00:34:27.820 reciprocation right for something that would never be tolerated in a muslim country so that adds more

00:34:33.300 fuel to the fire and kerosene why people get pissed off so that's why there's 1.2 to 2 million

00:34:39.840 christians in saudi arabia united states is 3.4 to 4. what's the ratio but to the whole population

00:34:44.420 how many people live inside i understand that i understand the ratio he's trying to no no but

00:34:48.300 there's more the percentage wise there are more if you're gonna compare it uh per capita there's

00:34:56.120 more christians in saudi than there are muslims in america and they say oh this is a muslim country

00:35:00.080 go to a muslim country there you go so it's a smaller it's much smaller here and again so i'll

00:35:06.320 ask you this regardless the greater point the greater point he's trying to make those religious

00:35:10.040 tolerance from islam is not the same as religious tolerance that that is what's felt we allow for

00:35:14.360 freedom of religion we allow for we do we do we offer christians protection so long as they

00:35:19.620 pay their tax that's what it was back in jerusalem when omar ibn khattab took control of it that's

00:35:24.160 what it's been historically muslims have always offered christians protection muslims have always

00:35:28.540 coexisted with christians peacefully we've never attacked them we've never destroyed their churches

00:35:32.400 we let them erect their crosses i didn't say that what i'm saying is a public display in a culturally

00:35:38.440 significant area that happens to be a majority cultural one religion that being if it was

00:35:44.020 majority muslim or you know burj khalifa you can even make the religion the argument for anywhere

00:35:48.860 in other muslim countries like egypt the point is a public display in a culturally significant area

00:35:54.100 and where the other religion is the majority can be seen as imposing will you agree to that well

00:36:01.040 is that fair or not okay i'll agree but okay is is times square culturally significant

00:36:04.980 for christianity or for zagbat goyslaw more it's more culturally significant for christianity

00:36:12.000 than any other religion no no no time square what what does christianity have to do with time square

00:36:15.940 no no i didn't say that i said if you were to compare it to islam and judaism

00:36:20.520 okay if you walk down time square majority of the people there are probably going to be what

00:36:24.760 even if they don't practice time square culturally what that's not true time square is all taurus

00:36:29.000 it's like erect a fat ass christmas tree every year what are you talking about that's in rockefeller

00:36:32.840 it is called no no no no Rockefeller Center is where the Christmas tree is Times Square is where

00:36:37.780 all New York City very close to Times Square yeah but not Times Square that's my point so this is

00:36:42.620 where people go to Times Square but it's it's like majority like Indian tourists you have a lot of

00:36:47.160 European tourists Mexican tourists uh people from South America it's a melting it's a melting pot

00:36:52.680 completely it's my it's not a Christian area at all in fact it's the opposite it's a place where

00:36:58.500 you broadcast ads for mcdonald's and netflix slop well what's what's the point i agree bro it's a

00:37:05.860 ton of goyslop united states is more secularized than anything in the current time what i'm saying

00:37:09.420 though and what are you responding to are you responding to the fact that the united states

00:37:12.240 isn't a christian country are you responding to the fact that we shouldn't pray in public

00:37:15.320 no because if this is like a mass congregation with the speaker i can understand if it's like

00:37:20.260 a christian area where christians go to pray like imposing upon a place like say like going to the

00:37:26.320 vatican for example like that that doesn't make sense that's the most extreme example but certainly

00:37:30.020 like even what's the most christian area of america it's certainly not time square it's

00:37:33.740 the furthest from that it has there's nothing christian about time square at all it's culturally

00:37:38.780 significant not for christianity but for advertisements and degeneracy yeah but

00:37:44.640 symbolically muslims have no symbolically muslims have no basis there for the united states it's

00:37:50.640 nico look bro it's it's it's very simple it's culturally significant for the united states

00:37:54.580 in the united states is a christian majority country with christian roots it's that simple

00:37:59.020 bro it's this isn't like dude this america's not a muslim country and it never will be it's not a

00:38:04.740 christian country it's a country with freedom of religion the founding father was a freemason

00:38:08.000 it's more of a it's more of a christian country than it's a muslim country there's literally

00:38:11.840 holidays that government holidays that are based in christianity that are not based in islam bro

00:38:16.320 like you you gotta and if we're gonna follow the current administration this is why niggas

00:38:21.140 hate muslims bro this rhetoric right here it's like this crazy entitlement to i could pray

00:38:24.480 wherever i want freedom of religion i'm just gonna do what i want to do yeah bro just because

00:38:27.640 american values freedom of religion but here's the thing just because you could doesn't mean

00:38:31.440 you should and this is precisely why people get annoyed by muslims because of this wild

00:38:34.360 you said should why should we not pray in time square

00:38:37.260 i just told you there's more downsides there's way more downsides religiously economically

00:38:43.600 that's been proven not true that's that's been proven not true if you if you fall into the hate

00:38:47.740 is it okay myron is islam the truth

00:38:50.260 yes bro but you don't have to force people to look at it nobody okay nobody it was it was

00:38:57.340 amplified people saw it because people got really upset nope people look it literally forced the eyes

00:39:02.280 the eyes the reason is to do it what other reason is there to pray there with with such a huge

00:39:07.760 audience it's for attention the majority of people saw it because it went viral online the people

00:39:12.620 there it wasn't obstruct it wasn't like forcing anybody to do anything which proves my point if

00:39:17.340 went viral that that was the intention but it went viral because of the hate that people have

00:39:21.980 on muslims which is it right or is the hate on muslims right or wrong look it's wrong and if you

00:39:28.380 believe in it you're a retard because it's perpetuated by these forever wars that our

00:39:31.780 leaders get us into so it's wrong to get mad at it so let's fight for the truth of course but if

00:39:35.740 they are wrong let's take a let's take a step back do you believe everything i said islamically has

00:39:41.980 some sort of grounding it's better to pray in a masjid yes or no yeah it's better to pray medina

00:39:46.060 than imagine why are we why are we arguing again bro this is we cannot fit everybody could not

00:39:51.260 fit inside of magic there were more people that would fit in any new york city magic nico i think

00:39:55.580 new york city has like some of the highest yeah yeah hold on hold on i'm just gonna call like it

00:40:00.300 is this is goat mentality this is your brother bro you're they call you a goat

00:40:06.780 this is what they call you you're using this is like hold on hold on no no because i'm asian right

00:40:12.060 i'm asian and black i'm not even a goat you're like that's what they call arabs not muslims

00:40:16.060 i've been listening to my brother debunk all of your fucking arguments systematically he's

00:40:20.440 absolutely cooked you and you're still here arguing for it and it's ridiculous and this

00:40:23.120 is the go fucking mentality i'm talking about there's no upside religiously there's no upside

00:40:26.680 uh you know from a viewpoint there's no upside in any manner whatsoever but you're still arguing

00:40:31.200 for because it's like i can do it so i'm gonna this is precisely why people don't like muslims

00:40:35.660 and get mad because they look at it like just because i can i'm going to that's not why bro

00:40:39.880 you're saying you're saying that people hate muslims because they

00:40:43.800 my brother dismantled you in every single way and you're still going on on this dumbass topic

00:40:48.260 bro it is not a muslim country and it's that simple this entitlement is why niggas are

00:40:52.140 it's not it's not a christian country and it's a country than a muslim country even if you make

00:40:57.120 that argument it's more of a christian country than a muslim country the biggest holiday is

00:41:00.300 literally christmas what the fuck is in that christmas christmas christmas has no basis in

00:41:05.680 the bible first off december 25th is not even listed as jesus's birthday so this is a more

00:41:09.500 majority pagan holiday where christmas trees and obviously it's good okay people celebrate

00:41:13.260 your Christmas has been secularized and has been infiltrated by marketing it's this gift giving

00:41:19.080 where you come down the chimney the majority of Christmas celebrations have nothing to do with

00:41:22.480 Christianity anyway it has no biblical it has no biblical backing but culturally it's Christian

00:41:26.840 and look where you were saying earlier okay Muslims pray in Times Square what's more Christ like

00:41:32.080 them bowing their heads on the ground likening themselves to the verse in Matthew where Jesus

00:41:35.500 fell on his face he prayed I get it you you're giving people way too much credit for what they

00:41:40.860 deserve no one's going to look at it that way islam optically is foreign to somebody who's

00:41:46.820 white american christian even though i will agree what we do is christ-like we do fast we do abstain

00:41:53.640 from sex before marriage we do abstain from alcohol you're right but your thought process

00:41:58.120 and your framework to assume everybody else will look at it that way is vehemently wrong especially

00:42:02.500 when propaganda mainstream media everybody who has influence and a voice most of the people at least

00:42:07.560 will say the exact opposite and never educate themselves to the extent to actually let people

00:42:11.080 know what the truth is about islam and how it parallels with christianity so and hold on it's

00:42:15.880 a l optically it's a l religiously it's a l in every single regard are there some upsides to

00:42:21.640 it sure but there's way more downsides and again like i said before this entitlement well you

00:42:25.880 didn't help i mean myron you were the one pushing the anti times for prayer like one of the most

00:42:30.280 people like you were playing into their hand by doing it you were playing into the zionist

00:42:34.360 propaganda by yelling about this it is more destructive than beneficial is my point so

00:42:40.200 if there's less upside than downside then why do it and i'm telling you like this is what i mean

00:42:45.120 when i say like niggas are retarded go fuckers because they don't understand that this is has

00:42:48.460 more negatives than positives and this is why people get mad at muslims because it's like bro

00:42:52.860 y'all are the minority you guys do this shit and you guys would never allow this in your own country

00:42:56.640 if christians went to birth they do a lot of other countries if if christians went to the

00:43:01.420 Burj Khalifa and did the same exact shit, they would not

00:43:03.460 be allowed to do it. You have no proof of that.

00:43:05.260 You have no proof of that. There's no

00:43:07.560 evidence to support that people get arrested

00:43:09.460 for praying outside the Burj Khalifa, one.

00:43:11.340 Two. No one wants to watch the UAE because

00:43:13.420 they have an apartheid when it comes to foreigners. If a

00:43:15.500 Christian foreigner goes to the UAE and tries to pray in front of the

00:43:17.500 Burj Khalifa, they're definitely getting arrested. Bro, you could

00:43:19.520 do like 20 years. Where's your proof of that?

00:43:21.220 You keep saying this as a fact, but there's no

00:43:23.440 truth. The point is, though, these

00:43:25.440 Middle Eastern Gulf...

00:43:26.500 ...level reciprocation that we do in the West at all, bro.

00:43:29.580 Like, at all. And that's fine.

00:43:31.120 important no most countries allow for freedom of religion wait Riyadh just just one point

00:43:34.880 Meyer keeps saying that this is why wait let me let me say this really quick really quick really

00:43:38.560 quick I swear to God hang on to it really quick these Gulf countries and these Muslim countries

00:43:42.040 have theocratic regimes for the most part so even though they may not be like this hardcore sharia

00:43:46.800 Dubai Qatar Bahrain they all have like Muslim elements within the government that's something

00:43:51.640 the United States does not have there's no like Christian Bible that rules the law as we said

00:43:56.240 earlier so I that's the whole point like I think you're kind of missing is these Muslim

00:44:00.780 countries have a theocratic rule that is muslim and so muslims are represented not only culturally

00:44:05.180 but legally something that christians don't have here and so if a muslim or sorry a christian

00:44:09.540 rather goes to pray in public and by the way coptic christians exist in egypt and the large

00:44:14.060 masses there's so many orthodox christians in egypt from sudan where we're from there's actually

00:44:17.820 a decent coptic population i understand they can coexist but like a mass spectacle of prayer like

00:44:23.420 what was done in times square would we met with some sort of demand by the government to not do

00:44:27.780 that shit again i'm almost positive of that although we have seen in the west bank christians

00:44:31.280 parading on easter and all that and talking about al-masiyah i will grant that because i already

00:44:35.320 know what the rebuts are going to be but for the most part right exceptions don't make the rule

00:44:39.060 for the most part if you put a blanket over it the tolerance is not the same on both ends

00:44:43.140 that's not that's not our fault that's not our fault where where does this happen where's one

00:44:48.880 piece of evidence people be arrested for praying in a predominantly muslim country i didn't say

00:44:53.880 they'd be arrested i said that the government would respond negatively i think there would

00:44:56.700 be negative backlash you know yo it's simple the fact that they don't do it is proof in itself

00:45:00.940 is that why or are people not really praying the same way they used to in other faiths besides

00:45:07.520 islam is that really why they're not doing it no one wants to end up in jail bro in in a muslim

00:45:12.320 country you think that's why people aren't praying because they don't want to get arrested

00:45:15.280 yes okay until you provide a piece of evidence here you're just making this up and you said

00:45:21.260 that this is why people hate muslims this is not why and you know this you grew up we have to have

00:45:26.660 a little bit of common sense you seriously think if how many how many people did you have there at

00:45:29.780 time square like 100 200 okay you think if i took 200 christians and they prayed in front of the

00:45:34.660 burj khalifa they wouldn't be stopped or kicked out they'd be fine realistic there's no where

00:45:39.720 where in any sort of legal doctrine in the ua says that they can't do that that's fine if you if you

00:45:44.980 honestly you're just saying this but what's your proof like you're literally citing nothing

00:45:48.560 again the reason why it doesn't happen is because muslim countries don't have tolerance for shit

00:45:54.700 like that which is a good uae has tolerance for things like i like dubai i don't no respect to

00:45:58.820 the uae but they do have a lot of talents for a lot of prostitution that happens there like they

00:46:02.960 allow a lot of people to walk around they don't instrict anything but there's other called

00:46:06.920 nico what's the key what's the key it's it's it's kept on the low low you're not supposed to be

00:46:11.840 overt about it is it yes we went the first place we went to it was literally all over the lobby of

00:46:17.600 the five palm hotel here's the thing of that area only everywhere else no it's supposed it's it's a

00:46:23.920 it's like i don't ask don't tell but praying in front of the burj khalifa as christians and

00:46:27.400 openly doing it like y'all did in times square that's going to be met with resistance bro okay

00:46:30.860 and if we can't even agree there's no evidence to support that and you can't you keep saying i

00:46:34.240 want to go back to a point you keep saying this is why we're going to say you keep saying this

00:46:37.760 why people hate muslims that's just not even true the reason that people have a negative attitude

00:46:41.300 towards muslims is because of years of propaganda calling muslims evil terrorists saying like when

00:46:46.800 they repost videos where like you're they keep posting this video i'm sure you've seen it on my

00:46:50.800 birthday when frank pooped on my rug and i started clip on me like i hate dogs i hate i love dogs

00:46:55.380 i'm joking they use that to be like muslims are evil and they hate dog the reason people hate

00:46:59.780 muslims are lies the terrorist ideas no no it's not because they're trying to impose and oh my

00:47:04.640 god they're praying here it's because they just spread lies this is false that's the comments

00:47:11.800 here sneaker let's have some common sense in higher iq if we know that they spread lies if

00:47:16.060 we know they control the media if we know that they control the discourse if we know they have

00:47:19.520 this enormous amount of power in the media to push out false narratives why the fuck would you

00:47:23.760 add kerosene to it by praying in times square when you get no religious benefit you only hurt

00:47:27.180 yourself optically it's low iq you get religious benefit for praying you just get more in a magic

00:47:30.920 okay that's the differentiation two if they're spreading all these lies okay hold on you said

00:47:35.680 earlier are you okay like my brother there's no religious benefit to it compared to just praying

00:47:41.320 in a mosque no no there still is religious benefit to pray praying you worship is you know this bro

00:47:45.920 compared to a mosque yeah no we're not compared to a mosque in general you said there's no

00:47:50.580 religious benefit that's false you get religious benefit by praying within time square i'm talking

00:47:55.360 my argument is specifically time square i'm not talking about public i'm talking time

00:47:59.020 square right that my argument is literally only on time square okay you get benefits for praying

00:48:03.700 period there's you benefit from praying there's you could do it out of mosque and not have all

00:48:09.460 the issues i know i i'm aware you said there's no religious benefit that's false you get benefits

00:48:13.940 for praying second if they were spreading all these lies what's the best way to fight against

00:48:18.640 lies you said earlier islam is the truth i was just going to answer that so if they're spreading

00:48:22.640 the best way to fight back against lies is with the truth which we all agree the three of us in

00:48:27.400 this panel we're all muslim right islam is the truth there's nothing wrong about praying

00:48:31.640 we are allowed and the whole world is so if they are lying i am going to fight with the truth

00:48:39.620 islam is the truth and i won't compromise this is the truth whatever the people want to say they

00:48:44.300 could say it and they're wrong they will try to spread more lies islam is the truth and i won't

00:48:48.640 compromise about that to fit some bad some weird idea that like people will hate it and it's bad

00:48:55.020 yeah but bro i agree i think islam is the hawk couldn't be more true alhamdulillah what i'm

00:49:01.320 saying though let's say 9-11 never happened let's say there was never this idea perpetuated against

00:49:05.180 muslims that they were terrorists or they invoked for terrorism they did 9-11 so on and so forth

00:49:08.520 let's say that never existed and muslims were never demonized and they went to go to pray in

00:49:11.540 times square i still think there would be a response of like hey this isn't courteous that's

00:49:15.860 the whole point i'm trying to make so i think you're looking at it from an angle of well we

00:49:19.420 need to fight back fuck that they're saying that we're terrorists and shit well we're going to show

00:49:22.540 them that our religion is more christ-like okay yeah i mean it is more christ-like i agree with

00:49:26.380 that but i don't think that praying in public and provoking people and being i don't think so

00:49:31.420 or invoking a display of less courtesy will actually help that narrative i don't i don't

00:49:36.160 see the return there especially because that specific area is a place where protests happen

00:49:41.400 literally every day we're loud people waving flags of foreign countries iranian flags not a protest

00:49:47.360 it's not prayer is not a protest okay so without 9-11 a prayer is peaceful a prayer is majority

00:49:54.140 quiet so yeah no if there wasn't propaganda then people would not have a problem with it especially

00:49:59.300 but what does protest have to do with anything because people aren't outraged about protests

00:50:04.960 this is this is like a town square this is where people meet this where the congregate that's what

00:50:08.160 they are if somebody if if a group of christians go to times square right now and protest against

00:50:13.360 abortion they'll be met with backlash in mainstream media the next day a bunch of libtards will go

00:50:18.000 crazy right so any sort of action will revoke a response i agree with that but what i'm saying is

00:50:23.120 prayer has no purpose there prayer has no prayer prayer is a bad it's not a celebration it's not

00:50:28.160 an act of courage it is we're going to pray in our massage because it's constitutionally protected

00:50:32.080 and we can do that without any harm or any sort of backlash or anybody bothering us for that

00:50:36.060 matter because people were screaming now in regards to the time of the prophet alayhi salatu

00:50:39.680 salam if he was praying in public because maybe there weren't as many massage and there weren't

00:50:43.140 that many muslims that's different he's a prophet his job is to spread islam our job can be to

00:50:46.900 spread islam but in a way that will be met with the least resistance possible i think that's doing

00:50:51.500 dawah like that of uhman ibn faruq warner that's my position and i think i think that's a really

00:50:56.180 fair position to have i think the point was proven because the outrage that myron's having

00:51:00.480 right now of a praying time square there was no outrage about the jews celebrating the antichrist

00:51:05.520 and so if this is a christian country which is what he's saying i said get them get them the

00:51:09.520 out of here too i said the same thing bro there was we responded to that on stream and there was

00:51:14.260 overall there was not so okay if we literally put these jews out of here bro i said the same

00:51:19.640 shit man like like again america is a christian country you might not agree with that but it's

00:51:23.880 definitely more of a christian country than a muslim country and it's definitely more of a

00:51:26.380 christian country than a jewish country even though we got retarded evangelical christians

00:51:30.040 here i said get those niggas out of here too i'm consistent on this like the whole administration

00:51:34.480 right now because they use that idea of it's a christian country it's a christian country

00:51:38.040 to get subverted by judaism to believe god must bless those who bless the state of israel to say

00:51:43.560 that this is a holy war and hegsat thinks that he's a crusader even though the crusades were

00:51:47.820 about reclaiming jerusalem for the christians and jerusalem's owned by the jews so this idea

00:51:52.540 it's a christian this is how the entire administration dominated by evangelical

00:51:56.900 christians should be separate from catholics and orthodox that these people are pretty much just

00:52:02.140 worshiping jews and don't even worship and do anything christ-like at all they've used this

00:52:07.340 narrative to bring us into a war so i mean that's why i say dying on this hill is not that effective

00:52:12.520 no that's why i say though culturally it's christian more so than religiously look christianity

00:52:17.980 has been washed time and time again it's diluted and so there's so many different denominations

00:52:22.840 you got protestantism you got evangelical protestantism they liken the old testament

00:52:26.060 to fulfill their prophecies of Christ coming back,

00:52:28.180 but then they need the Antichrist.

00:52:29.460 So that's why Israel needs to expand.

00:52:30.860 I get it.

00:52:31.540 And that's kind of the whole ideology

00:52:33.500 that Pete Hanks, Seth Donald Trump are invoking

00:52:35.420 indirectly or on purpose, who knows,

00:52:37.720 whether it's inadvertent or not.

00:52:39.120 But I think still the country is still culturally Christian.

00:52:42.280 That's what he's trying to say is this can be something,

00:52:45.000 this can be seen as something that's rather provocative,

00:52:47.100 even if people are Catholics

00:52:48.660 and they're still having sex and drinking.

00:52:50.280 And it doesn't still take away from the fact

00:52:52.200 that these people do identify as Christian.

00:52:54.020 Religiously, if they were to be asked

00:52:55.200 what they celebrate what holidays they identify with it would be that of christianity i think

00:52:59.640 that's like the greater point that has nothing to do with how the country identifies like look

00:53:04.240 if they're not you know devout christians that's irrelevant what i'm talking about is it's still

00:53:07.700 a christian base that doesn't really seem like that anymore especially with the administration

00:53:13.020 but what happened what happened i look we can agree to disagree let's have goyim unite okay

00:53:19.840 we're all going there's three gentiles in this call right now none of us are chosen people we'll

00:53:24.400 all be targeted at some point you guys have already been targeted i could be pretend i'm

00:53:28.280 potentially next so hold on hold on yeah sneaker's part chosen bro he's he's part jewish my mom's not

00:53:33.980 and my grandfather's is 50 which we found out yeah 12 still going i'm still going based off

00:53:40.160 the mother thing and if we agree this is why i'm saying going me to unite right islam does not pose

00:53:45.480 a threat in america it's all lies being spread and if the number one enemy of the israeli jewish

00:53:51.140 zionist is muslims then getting angry and saying goat fucker and this is terrible and you're

00:53:56.420 retarded you are pushing their hasbar propaganda that's what they are saying so why repeat it if

00:54:02.060 loomer and jake and all these people are saying the exact points that myron you're saying right

00:54:06.140 now that this is terrible they're taking over this okay if goyim unite then don't add fuel to

00:54:11.340 the fire when we already know that nenyan was paying influencers 7k to spread anti-muslim

00:54:16.440 propaganda playing it and doing their bidding is exactly the against the idea of going yeah but

00:54:22.280 he's not really if you're a retarded muscle i'm gonna call you a goat fucker but you're a dumb

00:54:26.160 g i'm gonna call you a dumb jeet like it's consistent bro like i use you know i'm not

00:54:31.000 even eric based off that you're a goat fucker and i'm not like this has no nothing to do with

00:54:36.100 the slum here's the thing it's a very individual thing based on iq and how they whether the

00:54:40.960 whether the abrasive message and language is met with receptivity or not still doesn't negate from

00:54:46.600 the fact what he's trying to say and by the way this guy is greenlit by the adl the splc myron's

00:54:51.260 canceled to fucking hell so like you can argue maybe he's doing their bidding but at the same

00:54:55.300 time he's been one of the biggest voices against them exposing them systematically with all the

00:54:58.680 intricacies i know you do i know you do i've seen you say that but i'm saying this to make a greater

00:55:03.600 point is it's not that he's intentionally trying to do his do their bidding i think that's what

00:55:08.160 people and Muslims are trying to spin it off. I think he's trying to call out Muslims for doing

00:55:14.020 something that can hurt them when it's not in their greater benefit in an already very tense

00:55:18.360 cultural situation where we all do need to unite. Sneeko, tell me this. I'm the least biased person.

00:55:25.520 Like I call out stupidity, whether it benefits me or not, whether you're black, white, you know,

00:55:29.880 India, whatever. Like if, even if I'm a part of that class and they still do some dumb ass shit,

00:55:34.060 I call it out. You don't call it white people, bro. Are you serious?

00:55:38.160 when do you call out white people no we we did just we did just make fun of white people for

00:55:42.100 like 30 minutes of the downstream you know like we called the school school shooters it doesn't

00:55:46.800 go viral yo i cook white people all the fucking time bro it's just that it never goes viral

00:55:50.620 because white people don't give a fuck we should be cooking most white people in the country are

00:55:55.040 very but then we should be cooking the white people who have no idea about islam and that

00:55:58.420 are falling against the propaganda more than people that are the subject of the propaganda

00:56:02.940 but we cook those people bro i cook them for not controlling their women i cook them for being

00:56:07.460 fucking you know pussies i cook them for being losers i cook them for being controlled by

00:56:11.500 progressives like dude okay great these are all things that are wrong right that's not the point

00:56:17.440 the point is i'm consistent that's my argument we should be yeah we should be consistent and

00:56:23.280 call things that are wrong right you call things that are wrong people that are sipping too much

00:56:27.360 that are allowing the women to do everything is islam wrong that's not the argument here bro

00:56:33.100 that's my argument no but he's saying the way they're going he's saying the way they're going

00:56:35.920 about islam could be wrong like no you're arguing that i like i'm calling go fuckers is is bad i'm

00:56:41.560 saying i have the same energy for everybody regardless of who they are even if i'm a part

00:56:45.560 of that class that's what i'm trying to say but you believe islam is the truth and islamically

00:56:49.100 there's nothing wrong about what we did so we didn't do anything wrong

00:56:52.460 praying at times square there's nothing islamically wrong about it just because it's

00:56:57.640 not wrong islamically doesn't mean it's not retarded okay but now you're talking to the

00:57:01.220 gopost you just said you call it everything that's wrong so now it's retarded why it's

00:57:05.300 retarded for the propaganda or whatever, but it's

00:57:07.400 not morally wrong.

00:57:09.240 Hang on, hang on. I have a question.

00:57:12.080 Really? Yo, I've

00:57:13.420 been saying it's retarded and they're dumb

00:57:15.120 go-fuckers for a minute and everybody's been losing their minds.

00:57:17.480 That's literally why everyone's mad at me because I said they're dumb

00:57:19.280 go-fuckers for doing that. My point is,

00:57:21.100 we should be consistent about...

00:57:23.940 My position on it the whole time

00:57:25.280 is that it's retarded and go-fuckers are doing this

00:57:27.300 shit because there's no upside. That has been my position

00:57:29.240 on the Times Square specifically. And I know your

00:57:31.280 chat's going to bitch because they're a bunch of retarded ass niggas too.

00:57:33.180 but the point i'm trying to make is i've been extremely consistent on this i've said from the

00:57:36.960 beginning praying at times square is fucking retarded anyone that tries to justify is a go

00:57:41.520 fucking retard because there's zero upside that has been my position from the whole time and i

00:57:45.660 talk shit about everybody it's just that these fucking guys in your chat are losers in pride

00:57:50.060 you said there was some upside you shifted around a couple times i mean there's nothing there's far

00:57:54.920 more there's far more downside than upside far more downside let me let me just i just want to

00:57:59.040 ask this really quick sneaker quick question and this is like a good faith question you tell me

00:58:03.200 the honest answer i'm unbiased i must unite if going must unite which i agree i think goyim have

00:58:10.040 to unite is praying in time square publicly the way that we did helpful towards that cause and

00:58:18.360 and you may say well the blame is on them for not seeing through but can't we kind of be a little

00:58:22.900 proactive and just take to the message if it's going to cause some sort of negative christian

00:58:25.820 response that can be negated by praying in the message then we can align with them later to

00:58:28.740 actually defeat the real enemy it's not a it's not a negative christian response it's a negative

00:58:32.820 hasbar there has been though there has been right i mean i mean for example nick is nick is smart

00:58:38.780 and nick wasn't happy about it and everybody who follows nick or a lot of grapers are christian

00:58:42.160 so there's that but if they're following the christian perspective then they should equally

00:58:49.620 be as mad about the things that happen in time square every single day and they are and that's

00:58:53.720 what that's what it was supposed to point out and double standard the anti-christ celebration that

00:58:58.480 happened the next day nobody talked about it because zionist media dominates and this stuff

00:59:03.280 is not going to go viral because people believe in judeo-christian values this is the problem

00:59:07.660 they don't understand that these people are celebrating what does that have to do with us

00:59:11.060 though what does that have to do with us calling out they're saying muslims maybe should pray in

00:59:14.140 the message what does that have to do i agree but those two things is at the same time without

00:59:17.900 canceling one another out if a bunch of christians prayed in front of the burj khalifa i would call

00:59:21.900 them retarded christ cocks by the way like i am like i am not biased like at all as a matter of

00:59:26.900 fact because i'm the least religious person here so i call like it is i'm extreme like if some

00:59:31.200 christian niggas prayed in front of birch califa i said you guys are fucking i think if christians

00:59:34.920 went to go pray in front of birch califa i would really be happy wala that would be a great sight

00:59:38.800 to see and i i encourage them to go do it and there's no evidence supporting that they'd be

00:59:42.320 arrested for which you keep on claiming i think it's good if christians keep on praying more i

00:59:46.120 would love to see that and i want to see more of that i want to see more unity for them

00:59:48.980 yeah look i mean we can agree to disagree i think some of the points that i made you can

00:59:55.820 kind of see through to it a little bit i think i'm being somewhat fair and charitable and why

00:59:58.820 i'm saying i feel like it's not the best idea regardless though the point is i think that

01:00:04.080 kind of public spectacle of prayer or whatever and i know it's not an intentional spectacle but

01:00:07.720 it could hurt the movement of goyim unite it could kind of destroy that alliance or

01:00:12.860 put a chink in the armor that we can't afford to sustain right now that's kind of like the

01:00:16.860 point as well that's another thing that i didn't even mention earlier but you know if we want to

01:00:20.500 unite if we want to be united front maybe we should try and practice the religion in a way

01:00:23.860 that won't provoke one another and if that means praying in Times Square is going to cause some

01:00:27.280 sort of negative Christian backlash then maybe we should avoid that now look and I'm gonna say it

01:00:32.220 again because there's new viewers this is not the biggest issue and I don't even think Nick made

01:00:36.040 this the biggest issue he spoke about it because you guys are fighting and whatever it was funny

01:00:39.000 but I think anybody who makes this a glaring issue over everything else which my brother and

01:00:44.160 I haven't by the way it's just so happens that everybody clips up the Times Square situation in

01:00:47.760 regards to praying more than anything else if you make this the most glaring issue in politics in

01:00:53.020 the united states culturally you're an idiot you're an idiot this is probably number 10 on the list

01:00:57.520 i agree but we never prioritize this ever go ahead what's your point i mean myron did make this a

01:01:02.680 major part of his he got no no no no no no no the first no i'll tell you bro i'll tell you no i see

01:01:08.620 why you're saying that dude the dom guy on twitter had clipped up a clip of him talking about it last

01:01:13.740 year he went on a monologue really quickly and then he moved on it just happened that that got

01:01:17.460 like a million or three million impressions on twitter but he retweeted we've been talking about

01:01:20.760 doubled down and he kept we've been yeah but he retweets every single one of his he he retweets

01:01:25.480 every single one of his talking points he's going to stand on it you did an eight-part thread about

01:01:29.560 why uh goatfuckers are retarded about his prayer it's not like it was like one thing he did an

01:01:34.200 eight-part thread about iran as well he does threads about every time and that was your point

01:01:37.640 that if you make it if you if you invest too much energy into something that is so minor a prayer in

01:01:42.520 times square if you really analyze it 200 people pray to times square for an hour investing energy

01:01:46.520 to this is a waste of time in his goyslop and is falling into their hands so

01:01:50.760 all right so um number one number one no i think that this conversation is that i think this

01:01:58.580 conversation is like kind of falling it like uh them boys are watching the stream right now

01:02:02.620 rubbing the shit out of their hands like this is amazing for them like but i think his eight

01:02:06.160 part thread was just to further cement a point that he got attacked initially for making my

01:02:10.640 brother made this point in a soft way prior and then muslims shat on him by the way i got some

01:02:16.120 I'm standing on this I'm gonna let me be explicitly fucking clear about this if you do not see that praying at Times Square as a Muslim when we have a Zionist control media is bad optically bad economically bad in every single way not even religiously is upside you're a fucking retarded go fucker and then also I just looked it up it is completely prohibited to pray as a Christian publicly in the UAE so you're wrong on that as well what's so Siko look bro can you read what's the proof yes it's number nine it's uh the law

01:02:46.120 literally it's let's see here you cannot pray publicly um federal law number nine of 2023

01:02:51.840 regulation of houses of worship for non-muslims explicitly prohibits practicing worship religious

01:02:55.240 sites or rituals outside licensed houses of worship so you can't do it okay and so if that's

01:03:01.460 true the difference is then there's freedom of religion in america which is like part of the

01:03:06.420 core tenets of this country and if there's not freedom of religion there then that's their law

01:03:10.440 obey the law of the land we have freedom of religion we didn't break the law the point is

01:03:15.660 is that that level of reciprocation doesn't exist

01:03:17.680 in Muslim countries.

01:03:18.840 It does in Lebanon, it does in Saudi,

01:03:22.100 and it does in, I guess, not in the UAE,

01:03:24.380 but it does in Lebanon, which is a perfect example.

01:03:26.260 Lebanon 100%.

01:03:27.260 Lebanon 100%, Saudi Arabia, you got to check that.

01:03:29.380 It does not exist in Saudi Arabia.

01:03:30.680 But he just said that it doesn't exist in any Muslim country.

01:03:34.160 Lebanon, perfect example.

01:03:36.040 Going back to Twitter thread,

01:03:37.580 my entire argument was based on, number one,

01:03:39.880 America's a Christian country, number two,

01:03:41.560 praying that Times Square is retarded, and then number three,

01:03:43.740 it's more of a Christian country than a Muslim country,

01:03:45.220 so you lose in that regard even if you make the argument population-wise but doctrine-wise it's

01:03:49.300 not and that's what you keep saying it's not like there's no doctrine supporting that under god

01:03:53.500 when they say all these different things what do you mean oh under god they don't say they don't

01:03:57.220 say under the holy spirit do they under god is what we believe in so we're actually following

01:04:00.860 by we're following that logic that's what all the all framers were christians bro like

01:04:07.000 george washington was a freemason

01:04:09.160 the majority of the framers were christian bro like they like if you again again and they

01:04:16.440 specified that they didn't want it that they did not make this a christian country this is from

01:04:20.240 john adams the second president muslims have way less argument to say that this is a muslim country

01:04:25.600 they're christians this is a i didn't say it was a muslim country i didn't say it was a muslim

01:04:29.540 country i said it was a freedom of religion country okay and what i'm saying is that it's

01:04:34.860 still not a muslim country so therefore praying out publicly at times square is retarded because

01:04:38.760 it doesn't look optically for all the other cultural American values where we have freedom

01:04:41.980 of religion yeah but just because something is legal doesn't mean it's a good idea that's

01:04:47.560 I think that's what he's trying to say dude like well you can't go so it's not it's not legally

01:04:52.720 wrong it's not Islamically wrong we said that that was our framework okay that was our frame

01:04:57.400 so I know I know I know it's a framework of us and the greater point is that it's only wrong

01:05:06.200 because of propaganda so let's fight the propaganda and not play into the hat that's the

01:05:10.300 bigger point that because it's not legally wrong and because it's not islamically wrong we should

01:05:14.960 and we can be able to do it if we want to and it's only wrong if you are afraid of the propaganda

01:05:19.640 but we as muslims should not live in in fear we don't fear anything so if it's not incorrect in

01:05:25.880 our religion and it's not incorrect legally then we could do it and i'm not going to live in fear

01:05:29.680 we can let other people do that if you if you want to live that way if you want to live in fear go

01:05:32.900 ahead but i'm not going to do that you want to pray it publicly bro go country bro like this

01:05:37.800 this is retarded like no no you can say like yo just just yo like go pray go to a muslim country

01:05:43.380 that's why i didn't say that shit bro because it's like well maybe i would but who's bombing

01:05:46.700 every single muslim country oh u.s and israel epstein regime is bombing them all and they're

01:05:50.500 not safe right now i'm supposed to be in medina but these these people part of the christian

01:05:54.580 country christian country these evangelical christians brought us into a war all these

01:05:58.640 countries are getting bombed i can't even go to the airport i was supposed to be in dubai last

01:06:02.480 week can't go because the airport got bombed why because of american war that's true but i just

01:06:09.620 want to bring it back so the original position is understood look the framework is this islamically

01:06:15.840 it's a better idea to pray in the masajid there are legitimate scholars who say praying in time

01:06:21.300 square is not correct and i can pull that up if you want but i don't i don't even want to go in

01:06:24.980 that direction really the the greater point here is that goyim unite must mean everybody co-exists

01:06:30.380 in some way that we can all accept from one another and the united states is religiously

01:06:35.000 free so you can go do a backward cartwheel in the street if that means you're praying in some way

01:06:40.000 no one's saying you can't do it it's about is it appropriate is it courteous and is it something

01:06:45.060 that's going to perpetuate the lie that's hurting the alliance we so desperately need to make our

01:06:49.180 countries visitable so we can go and pray in medina i think that's like that's the more coherent

01:06:54.440 framework to work from and i think it proved the opposite since then i think the people that were

01:06:59.860 extremely outraged about that i'd in retrospect with this morning i think it looks so silly

01:07:04.740 you know i think people are understand that there you go well you there's there's what i was showing

01:07:10.840 before you you can't play pray to the same extent that they did it at times square you cannot do

01:07:15.520 that at uae and uae is the most one of the most relaxed and westernized muslim countries and you

01:07:20.020 can't even do it there so that's what i'm trying to say but we have freedom of religion in america

01:07:22.800 so the point still stands so we're following the law here if that's not the law there it is what

01:07:26.480 it is it's the law in a lot of other predominantly muslim countries so i'm following the law here

01:07:30.540 and i'm not breaking it freedom of religion before you show me proof and i'm showing you proof now

01:07:34.080 but the point the point still stands like you could bring up other muslim countries where this

01:07:38.600 is allowed if it's not a lot of birth leave assured but we have freedom of religion here

01:07:41.820 so it still doesn't change the fact that i'm not breaking the law and i can do it and i will

01:07:45.860 again again freedom that you're utilizing is not that that argument that you're making is

01:07:51.440 not reciprocated muslim countries which is the basis of my argument that this is why people

01:07:54.940 are annoyed with muslims because they don't allow the same reciprocation and demand in countries

01:07:58.800 that they're guessing that's the whole fucking crutch of my argument bro because that is why i

01:08:02.800 was saying you because i had to give you something analogous to show you how ridiculous it sounds

01:08:06.220 to pray in a public location of great economic and cultural influence and then i use the burj

01:08:11.340 khalifa in a non-muslim country to like in a non-religious country to explain that and i'm

01:08:16.100 correct once again so again there's not much upside to praying publicly at times square when

01:08:21.000 know jews run the media and they use islamic rhetoric or islamic terrorism to just myron you

01:08:26.200 help them you help them i don't see nobody complaining about me talking about in the

01:08:30.360 times square you helped them do that you they made you viral you're saying that that's their

01:08:34.360 propaganda they say about me that you did that no no no these people complain yeah they complain

01:08:39.800 about you exactly they saw they see you as an ally on this issue that's the point you are pushing the

01:08:47.960 the same propaganda as them i am fighting back against their propaganda they saw you get all

01:08:53.080 mad about this to say goat fucker and they rub their hands together and they're happy that you're

01:08:56.740 calling muslims out you dumped kerosene on something that didn't need to you there was a

01:09:01.300 fire and you dumped kerosene on it and i'm telling you dumping that kerosene how did you help by

01:09:06.820 telling you the kerosene dumping dumping kerosene on is retarded that's how i helped and don't do

01:09:10.180 it again you amplify this no you amplified it a lot and you pushed outrage towards it there was a

01:09:16.400 fire there's a fire you put dump kerosene on it and i said that's kind of retarded you probably

01:09:20.320 gonna do that then a year later you dump even more kerosene on it that's what i'm doing i'm saying

01:09:23.520 that's retarded don't do that you dump it anyway like that that's what it is it's not like praying

01:09:27.920 is not retarded like there's not gonna there's not a convict at times square it is retarded

01:09:34.960 yeah praying in general isn't so and that's not my argument you could pray my argument is strictly

01:09:40.640 praying publicly at times square is retarded that is my argument because it's extremely

01:09:44.320 because of propaganda not because of anything legal and not because of anything islamically

01:09:49.460 so that's the greater point do not live in fear of their propaganda and their lives do not

01:09:55.400 perpetuate their lies praying is good and i will pray i am not going to submit to their propaganda

01:10:00.960 i don't live in fear if you want to okay but then don't help them out no look fair fair but

01:10:07.240 you're using try to say that you're brave it's just like i'll say this i'll say this again like

01:10:13.440 if Myron's point or his position on this argument temporarily on the fringe account lines up with

01:10:18.840 that of Laura Loomer and Jake Langs, that doesn't mean that he's trying to perpetuate their

01:10:21.840 narrative. It just so happens that something that Muslims did actually did not benefit them in the

01:10:26.660 favor of optics media or in media publicly. That doesn't mean he's taking their side. He's the

01:10:31.020 most anti-Zionist person ever. And again, I know that's not what you're saying, but that's kind of

01:10:35.300 a representation of the argument that you propose. I know how they are. Like, I know what they're

01:10:39.880 going to say yeah yeah and and look regardless of it i always want to make sure that the religious

01:10:45.680 framework is prioritized at the top i think that's the biggest thing to pay attention to

01:10:49.700 again when you're religious here's another thing when you're religious you're going to inherently

01:10:52.680 be biased you're not going to see my perspective because i'm coming at it from an extremely

01:10:55.660 you know central ground where i have no vested interest really in you know oh yeah let me go

01:11:01.000 ahead and take this side blah blah blah but like you're coming from a biased perspective which is

01:11:03.780 why you have this position which is fine i'm just telling you that i'm coming from well but you said

01:11:07.820 islam is i'm coming from the truth perspective aren't i okay but you don't have to go ahead

01:11:14.360 and express the truth in that way because it more it's more counterproductive than productive

01:11:17.600 you wear the the cookie monster hoodie which is like talking about how many it's talking about

01:11:22.400 the holocaust right and you want to be uncompromised and show this everywhere and not live in fear

01:11:26.800 that's the same thing here with the greater truth that islamic whatsoever to this conference that's

01:11:31.780 not analogous whatsoever dude like that is there's so much propaganda you're not supposed to talk

01:11:36.260 about the Holocaust or question the numbers, you say, I'm going to do it anyway. The same thing

01:11:40.480 is propaganda about this conversation. It's propaganda about Muslims. I'm not going to live

01:11:44.220 in fear and I'm going to speak the truth. You believe that this is the truth about the Holocaust

01:11:47.280 is you, you wear it unapologetically. I'm an unapologetic Muslim. I'm not ashamed. So I'm

01:11:52.260 going to pray. It's the same thing as the cookie monster hoodie. No one's saying anything about

01:11:56.040 praying, bro. It's about praying at times square and filming it and making it a spectacle is

01:12:00.660 retarded. So then why do you wear the cookie monster hoodie?

01:12:03.580 wearing a t-shirt is not the same as praying at a culturally relevant why do you wear it

01:12:11.880 why do you wear it that's not analogous whatsoever bro are you serious right now let's let's see the

01:12:16.500 reason what this is not analogous whatsoever at all like this has nothing to do with it this is

01:12:21.560 another deflection another goalpost movement like you've been doing oh show me proof no no just

01:12:25.860 answer the question just answer the question i show you proof oh well okay but there's

01:12:30.360 okay bro like yo you're moving the goalposts i'm not i'm not moving the goalposts i'm asking you

01:12:36.400 why do you wear the cookie monster hoodie it's a simple question god man you can't answer this

01:12:42.080 bro i wear the hoodie because it's fucking hilarious why that is why why is it hilarious

01:12:46.980 it's hilarious because people get triggered over a hoodie right it's fucking hilarious and and we

01:12:52.840 know know that that topic they lie about it okay oh just like they lie about muslims

01:12:57.220 oh so you're fighting back against propaganda oh it triggers people for a reason that's

01:13:03.720 unjustified just like praying when it's legal and islamically correct too so fighting back

01:13:09.540 against propaganda living without fear not being ashamed is something that's good just like a

01:13:15.140 cookie monster hoodie dude are you seriously trying to compare wearing a t-shirt to a mass

01:13:20.200 prayer a culturally significant location what's the difference as a minority religion in a

01:13:23.980 Christian country are you serious right now what's the difference this was a brain dead

01:13:27.060 example like this has nothing to do what's the difference what's the difference you're comparing

01:13:36.000 wearing a hoodie to praying in a culturally centrally a culturally central location in a

01:13:42.640 mass prayer with cameras on versus me wearing a hoodie what's the difference when you when you

01:13:47.080 wear it to brand risk there's cameras everywhere the hoodie the hoodie is symbolic it's just him

01:13:52.160 wearing something that he may believe in but like the prayer is something physical you're actually

01:13:55.520 doing something that we believe in i believe in islam it's representing my beliefs right what's

01:14:01.020 the difference yeah but you're representing your beliefs on a t-shirt that's not analogous it's

01:14:04.080 kind of a non-sequitur because representing your religious belief on a t-shirt is different than

01:14:07.400 actually physically doing it in a place that doesn't represent it that's like kind of i'm

01:14:11.080 just saying that's that's okay i mean when you when you wear the cookie monster shirt in public

01:14:15.300 this is where it's taboo to question these numbers it's it's taboo and it's a shame and there's

01:14:19.480 propaganda it's it's exerting your belief system in a place where the majority of the country

01:14:24.660 the majority of the judeo-christian country doesn't believe in these numbers what's the

01:14:27.980 difference are you fucking serious it's an insider joke on a meme bro you are talking about praying

01:14:32.820 openly with cameras on at times square are you serious right now let's break it down first i

01:14:37.360 know you can do this without getting angry okay insider joke no because here's i'm not getting

01:14:42.500 angry hold on what's the what's the joke based off you're being dense purposely wearing a t-shirt

01:14:48.620 wearing a t-shirt with an insider meme that isn't visibly apparent is not the same at all it is

01:14:55.620 visibly no only dude you really if 100 people walk by me maybe one or two will know where the

01:15:01.700 joke comes from meanwhile if a thousand people walk by fucking time square they're gonna know

01:15:05.420 there's a bunch of muslims praying here it's not the same whatsoever at all i mean i don't know

01:15:10.220 that's a little cliche i think people understand what it is people know the cookie monster meme

01:15:13.440 insider joke t-shirt versus praying a time square camera's on with two what's myron

01:15:18.560 what is the joke of the t-shirt what's the joke

01:15:22.280 you're gonna fit you're gonna you're gonna facepomp just explain bro explain it in youtube

01:15:29.760 friendly language uh come on don't run from the question explain it in youtube friendly language

01:15:34.080 no i can explain it i'm on youtube it's referring to a historical event in world

01:15:38.160 okay yeah okay we all know what it's about it's explaining to a historical event in world war ii

01:15:43.080 okay and what is what is the joke what is the joke

01:15:47.620 about the ovens the number count what do you tell i'm the joke i would be explicit i'm on

01:15:54.520 youtube i that's why i don't want to get i'll explain it into friendly language because you

01:15:57.480 don't want to answer the i mean okay fine the joke is that i'll answer i'll concede if you

01:16:01.980 you've explained it correctly go ahead okay i'm saying it is a friendly language the cookie monster

01:16:06.060 hoodie is a joke about the numbers that are enforced about the holocaust right and this

01:16:11.500 is a narrative that's been pushed so much in america that's been used to justify wars that's

01:16:15.740 been used to push ideas of anti-semitism it's part of the major propaganda machine correct

01:16:21.400 okay coming from the same people who also push propaganda on muslims this is a joke and the

01:16:28.240 reason that myron wears it is to assert that in a judeo-christian country where so much zionist

01:16:33.980 propaganda is being pushed i am going to be unashamed and i am not going to live in fear

01:16:38.280 and i'm gonna say the truth anyway even if it makes people upset even when there's cameras on

01:16:43.700 when there's a lot of twitch streamers around i don't care if it's gonna there's gonna be outrage

01:16:47.900 people gonna call me a denier or a questioner i'm gonna not live in fear and do it anyway okay

01:16:53.340 that's exactly the same mentality as the time square exactly the same way you go here's the

01:17:00.700 wrong i'm doing it in a covert tactical and funny manner that is not necessarily as obvious meanwhile

01:17:06.460 you niggas are praying in time square over like bro when you wore that shirt next to jack was so

01:17:10.540 big i'm gonna say this example is so stupid because it's not analogous whatsoever i'm doing

01:17:15.420 a covert insider joke meanwhile y'all are praying openly in time square it's not the same at all

01:17:20.300 it's not covert when you were when you were there next to jack was so big hold on bro how many people

01:17:26.220 know the cookie monster joke are you serious bro okay i'm gonna point it out and you're not letting

01:17:29.420 me answer yeah but even if it wasn't covert if he had a hoodie that was explicit about it let's say

01:17:34.140 say the hoodie was just straight up that that doesn't even respond to the whole point is

01:17:38.660 praying publicly is a physical action that's actually like materialized like people can see

01:17:43.440 that people can hear that people can interact that people can feel that if myron if myron went

01:17:47.480 out in public and did some sort of like joke where he got a bunch of people and like put them in a

01:17:52.240 room and then had them come out coughing or some shit then that would be the same thing but like

01:17:55.940 a shirt that just symbolically shows symbolism that refers to a historical event historical

01:18:01.000 event yes it is pushback against a voice that's against him but it's not doing it it's not doing

01:18:06.060 it in an imposing manner that's the difference so you saying is a little bit more imposing so

01:18:09.860 it's more undercover right i remember at turning point myron was wearing that hoodie in a place

01:18:14.140 of like where everybody believes in judeo-christian values and this is being pushed and he's like i'm

01:18:18.160 gonna go and do this anyway even though people don't agree i wouldn't even as far as to say

01:18:21.640 that but go ahead okay go ahead go ahead i wouldn't even majority of people at turning

01:18:24.600 point turning point is jay o christian organization where gop politics judeo-christian values are

01:18:29.380 being pushed heavily everybody knows this right this is why erica kirk is talking about anti-semitism

01:18:33.780 and people there get really upset he wears the shirt and takes a picture next to jack was so big

01:18:37.460 it goes viral why is jack was so big next to this anti-semit why is this allowed a turning point

01:18:43.140 why is this here and it's like a symbol everyone oh yeah i don't care what's going on i'm gonna do

01:18:48.540 it anyway people do know what the joke is everybody you can take five seconds

01:18:52.380 and then also snego tell the whole story who who made it go viral

01:18:59.380 other people the zionists right just like the time stop anti-semitism aka a very nuanced and

01:19:05.940 small account that said oh it's within the jews and then the then what they do is because we know

01:19:10.100 that they do this they pushed it out they said everybody share this everybody share this it was

01:19:13.780 within that group of people only versus if when you're praying at times square everybody sees

01:19:18.500 that ah but who's pushing the propaganda against it and who's the vehicle who's the one demonizing

01:19:23.780 muslims the most the same people mad about that shirt they're the ones pushing judeo-christian

01:19:28.740 values they're the ones spreading that everywhere and then you i mean you did echo their sentiment

01:19:33.620 but this is coming from the laura loomer jigsaw people and coming from all the same talking heads

01:19:38.760 that got mad at the hoodie sneaker it sounds good on the surface but the intricacies make it non

01:19:44.020 analogous because again it's not this action that he's actually doing in public to impose on people

01:19:48.480 and i'm not saying that's the intent of muslims but you got to realize too jews are a very small

01:19:54.040 minority of the united states yet they have a disproportionate amount of influence and control

01:19:58.460 so him doing that as a fight back against something that's actually oppressing him i

01:20:03.260 don't think muslims are actually getting oppressed and we're doing something physically you don't

01:20:07.440 think muslims are getting randy fine is saying in the united states in the united states okay bro

01:20:12.620 look at i get randy fine marco rubio pete hicks that just said something negative about islam

01:20:16.700 donald trump has been shitting on islam for years that doesn't affect my ability to practice my

01:20:22.060 religion though these guys are all retards of course it's all of zio shows that doesn't change

01:20:25.880 my ability to practice no it doesn't because no no because it pushes propaganda and then people

01:20:29.740 feel we still send money to ghazza we still fast we still have our sahur fest in chicago in these

01:20:34.600 big muslim cities like houston we still have a masajid our masjids are constitutionally protected

01:20:39.160 people like jake lang are actually pushed back against by christians look is there a disproportionate

01:20:44.620 amount of attack on muslims to weaponize an attack against iran that's probably coming very soon

01:20:49.200 you complained about me wearing the hoodie at brand risk by the way fyi you're part of the

01:20:52.720 propaganda too hang on hang on but that's one second because and the greater point is that

01:21:00.380 the uncompromised truth myron the uncompromised truth is not the cookie monster meme and not the

01:21:06.100 what happened in world war ii islam is something we don't compromise about i'm not going to die

01:21:10.780 on the hill of a meme t-shirt about the holocaust but i will die for islam that transcends everything

01:21:17.560 and Riyad can you finish yeah where was I okay so the reason why I'm saying the whole cookie

01:21:25.120 monster symbolism and then Muslims praying is not really the same thing is because that's an

01:21:28.580 attack against people who have a disproportionate amount of control who aim to not only victimize

01:21:32.880 themselves but demonize Muslims and honestly just non-Muslims that they're all anti-Semites and

01:21:37.260 against Jews and against the Israeli state that's why what he's doing is more so like him speaking

01:21:42.540 out against something that's actively you bro he's oppressed he's actually lost money for talking

01:21:47.260 about this he's demonetized on youtube he's gotten attacked by the adl the splc they've all greenlit

01:21:51.780 the shit out of this nigga he's got a target on his back you as well so i think you should

01:21:55.480 understand this whereas like muslims yeah okay randy fine says muslims hate dogs okay i don't

01:22:00.460 give a fuck about that ass they say he's not going to pass any legislation that's going to

01:22:04.540 change my relationship they're actively they're actively the trump administration so many people

01:22:08.380 but it's but like you said it's constitutionally protected they can't actually even with their

01:22:11.960 executive order you said they can't infringe something upon muslims right you can't infringe

01:22:16.020 put something upon muslims that will actually stop us from our religion or our practice the

01:22:19.300 point is go ahead and if they did if they did the conversation changes okay they are trying

01:22:23.600 oh my god wait wait hold on they are trying to and they're trying to create an unsafe environment

01:22:29.440 so that when a false flag attack happens muslims are getting blamed they want muslims to be

01:22:33.980 deported if they could allow this to happen you could say things about muslims you could say

01:22:37.880 word for word muslims should be deported from america muslims should not be allowed to exist

01:22:41.940 here they all need to be kicked out you know what happens they get invited to the white house they

01:22:45.380 go to DC. Look at the difference between Nick Shirley and Tyler Rivera. They are trying to get

01:22:49.420 Muslims to be that group that exists here. First of all, first of all, first of all, the Trump

01:22:54.120 administration may not exist after November. They're going to lose the midterms. They don't

01:22:56.740 have influence. They're going to lose a lot of their legislative power after Democrats take the

01:22:59.500 House and the Senate. That's one. Two, even if, I'm just trying to make this point, even if they're

01:23:04.980 able to pass that legislation, then of course the rules change. But for right now, that's not

01:23:09.700 actually affecting us. I think what's a better response to their attempt in making Muslims look

01:23:14.300 like demons and terrorists is doing what me and myron were just doing jqing for like two or three

01:23:18.520 hours about how the iran war is all for israel how they're going to have a false flag attack how you

01:23:22.520 should prepare my tweet on the austin shooter how to be pay attention and understand these things

01:23:26.380 in the science because we've seen this before 9-11 operation northwoods we see false flags all the

01:23:30.260 times historically in the united states so my point is let me educate people so they don't try

01:23:34.640 to demonize islam which people like my brother you nick are have all been charging voices even

01:23:39.480 though nick has no vested interest he still points out the fact that these could be false flag

01:23:43.360 attacks these are all set up by israelis or zionist shills to demonize us so i think a more

01:23:48.040 effective approach to combating that powerful voice that has a disproportionate amount of

01:23:51.980 control in our government is doing what we're doing and maybe talking about the topic educating

01:23:56.000 seven eight thousand people who are watching not praying for an hour that's my point okay

01:24:00.420 okay can you kind of yeah is that unfair i see your point but again there's we're going in circles

01:24:06.220 about the you admit we are yeah we really are okay we go back to what i am unite it shouldn't

01:24:12.420 discussed it's retarded and it's like we're having a good conversation on some other

01:24:15.540 shit now we're talking about religion it's because it's theology this is religious war

01:24:20.900 this is about the war this is about the war they're trying to set up a false flag and the

01:24:25.060 demonization of muslims right now so that people keep supporting wars where they bomb muslims

01:24:30.740 but but now we're talking we're talking about the practice of said religion and this is why like i

01:24:34.660 hate talking about religion because it gets into subjective discussions like this which are low

01:24:38.500 You can't talk about this war without talking about religion and to deny that is wrong.

01:24:43.600 I mean, they've made it a biblical war.

01:24:45.260 They've clearly talked about how Muslims are backwards and they say they're religious fanatics.

01:24:49.540 This is a religious war.

01:24:50.880 It's a component, but it's not like necessarily like, you know, it's not like the entire crux of the conversation.

01:24:56.840 It is a component.

01:24:57.520 It's an underlying factor.

01:24:59.160 It's not an underlying.

01:24:59.900 It is the top of the pyramid for this war.

01:25:02.540 They are trying to usher in the messianic age, right?

01:25:04.400 They want the Antichrist to come.

01:25:05.520 They want to destroy the third temple.

01:25:06.880 They want to take over the world.

01:25:07.900 they want to bring in their antichrist correct that's what this is really about this is a pretext

01:25:11.680 for that but this is a greater issue most jews in israel are literally secular bro it's a secular

01:25:17.080 state i think that i think that first of all i think muslims muslims and non-jews goyim are

01:25:22.680 winning the culture war that's why they bought paramount that's why they bought all these big

01:25:26.620 corporations that's why they bought tiktok they're trying to earn that influence back

01:25:30.340 in charlie kirk's assassination prior he had a letter to benjamin netanyahu where he said

01:25:34.440 hey look i'm having a really hard time on these college campuses defending the zionist

01:25:37.720 narrative you guys are losing you need to take control of the media they're losing i don't think

01:25:41.600 muslims are actively being oppressed i think that our oppression is actually going to be listen i

01:25:46.260 think our oppression or people demonizing us is actually going to be lifted very soon look at the

01:25:51.080 replies in randy fine's tweets everybody thinks he's a retard people like nick are the biggest

01:25:55.060 political voice in the world right now and what is he saying this is all bullshit he doesn't like

01:25:59.460 islam he doesn't agree with it but he will acknowledge the fact that muslims don't pose

01:26:02.460 a threat in the united states nor are they this big terrorist group okay but but so then what how

01:26:07.460 does your point have any way right now with what i'm saying there's no validity to you saying we

01:26:10.940 must fight back the administration right now regardless of what you think has happened

01:26:14.700 culturally the most influential people are trying to get muslims eradicated in this country they

01:26:20.160 are trying to push pop they're losing they're losing real time because people like people

01:26:25.700 are fighting back and this is part of that fight yeah i i guess bro my point is that

01:26:33.880 praying at times square is retarded and gives them more ammunition like and if you don't respond to

01:26:41.980 your like just like the cookie monster hoodie they're going to say it's retarded and gives

01:26:45.680 them ammunition to call you they're going to call you a low iq anti-semitic they're going to say

01:26:49.420 this is low iq anti-semitic humor that it doesn't belong to any point they're going to say the same

01:26:53.760 thing that's not analogous whatsoever that's not analogous whatsoever are they not going to say

01:26:57.920 the same thing that this is low iq and this shouldn't be allowed and this is bad they're

01:27:01.200 gonna say the same here's the thing um me making like uh that because that's more of a political

01:27:06.300 situation right that's more of a political like we don't i don't believe in this narrative that

01:27:10.140 they use for political um you know leniency you praying at praying at times square right publicly

01:27:16.380 that is that is not the same that is not the same at all and like the fact that you try to make the

01:27:21.520 comparison to them is religious religion and politics right now political statement and you're

01:27:26.140 making a religious statement that doesn't necessarily need to be made and gives ammunition

01:27:29.320 to the very people that control the narrative just like they give ammunition on you and saying

01:27:32.480 the low IQ summit anti-semitity to be kicked out religion and politics are intrinsically tied right

01:27:37.020 now trying to deny that is false this is a holy war this is why iran and all the middle eastern

01:27:41.840 muslim countries get bombed because people don't see muslims as people because the propaganda you

01:27:46.040 can't talk about religion right now without talking about politics too they go hand in hand

01:27:49.400 if it's a religious war like you said then we all the muslims will be lining up against the jew

01:27:53.200 it's a jews it's a political war dude you got literally have muslims bombing other muslims

01:27:56.920 like no it's not really how is it not a religious war if they're a component but it is not the

01:28:02.440 underlying factor is geopolitical issues that are strictly based on politics and economic factors

01:28:07.180 that's leading to the secretary of war the sec hold on hold on the secretary like claim if this

01:28:13.100 was a religious war like you claim fucking iran would not be bombing a bunch of other muslims bro

01:28:17.420 so yes they see that they they're traitors it's a facet of it however the big thing here is that

01:28:24.360 there's geopolitical and economic reasons as to why this conflict is happening and that overrides

01:28:28.340 the religious angle because if it was a religious angle it would have been quite a while ago i think

01:28:32.100 just nico i think there's a spiritual element to this middle eastern warfare but i don't think it's

01:28:36.200 a holy war just yet and that's because there's a lot of internal strife amongst muslims i mean

01:28:40.400 khameini said that sunnis are kuffar like shia's and muslims and shia's and sunnis have been killing

01:28:44.600 each other in that region for the last 20 yes that's true you can fact check that he has said

01:28:48.540 a lot of jesus and he said respectful things about asia too but no well look well obviously

01:28:54.340 see they revere those people, but they think that our creed is heretical. Shias believe some crazy

01:28:57.680 things, but I don't even want to do that because I want some sort of alliance or coalition in the

01:29:01.060 Muslim world. I'm just saying that to make a greater point. Yeah, there's a spiritual element,

01:29:04.420 but I wouldn't say it's like this religious holy war yet. Eschatologically, it will be,

01:29:09.700 following all our religions, whether that's Christianity, Judaism, or Islam. But at this

01:29:13.320 point, it has not become one yet. And so I think that this pushback that you're pushing for in

01:29:19.080 terms of praying in public, whatever, I think it is a fight. I think Muslims do need to fight

01:29:22.200 for some sort of sovereignty to actually be able to practice a religion and not be disrespected

01:29:25.820 but praying in times square certainly is let me explain why there's a holy war and to to ignore

01:29:31.360 this stuff is just you've definitely seen this right ted cruz says go for it god must bless

01:29:36.080 those that bless the state of israel pete said hexath has antichrist tattoos is this coffer

01:29:40.520 written on here he's the secretary of yes catheter on the inside of his bicep yeah i know he fought

01:29:44.120 in the iraq war he's a typical christian national exactly they're saying this is a biblical war

01:29:48.260 former FBI agents are saying this is a biblical war. They're saying that we need to protect

01:29:52.700 Judeo-Christian values. Marco Rubio, Cruz, they're saying Iran, they're full of religiously

01:29:58.260 backwards people. There are so many aspects of this that are very clearly religious. And to act

01:30:05.280 like it's just a political conflict is ignoring what's right in front of our faces. In the Syrian

01:30:10.180 conflict, there were American tanks with the Khafre tattoo written on the tanks. This is the

01:30:16.460 underlying it might be uncomfortable to talk about but everybody can see it in front of our

01:30:21.220 faces the reason the reason judeo-christian values is so rampant is because jewish supremacists have

01:30:27.160 subverted the bible to get people to to worship jews right the reason that hegseth is saying in

01:30:32.180 2016 hegseth's saying that he wants to reenact the third temple this is part of eschatology

01:30:37.320 like this is part of the reason maybe the major reason this war is happening the reason that

01:30:42.420 trump has been convinced by jared kusher and steve whitkoff to even do this war and they said

01:30:46.240 iran was posing a threat because whitkoff and jared kushner are jewish and they're zionist and

01:30:52.920 they have dual allegiance to israel they're trying to speed up the end of the world and they want to

01:30:57.200 see the third temple built to ignore this is just is ignorant i entirely i don't i don't i don't

01:31:02.860 think you're understanding me i agree with that again i think the holy war eschatologically will

01:31:08.980 be when al-masih ad-dajjal actually takes place on earth when he actually comes out of isfahan

01:31:13.820 in Iran I think that's what's yeah I know you've been into that big big lately and you've been

01:31:17.160 asking all these guys and so you've been doing really good education on your streams on that

01:31:20.260 but what I'm saying is like yes there's a spiritual element but I think the best way to combat that is

01:31:25.140 by educating all the goyim about who truly is at benefit for this war why this war even if it ends

01:31:32.040 in successful regime change Patrick Ben David's wet dream will not benefit the United States or

01:31:36.280 Israel because or sorry United States and Iran because Israel will have entire hegemony over a

01:31:41.240 region they want to control that's why i'm coming on stream every day to talk about this war with

01:31:45.080 my brother but fighting that spiritual battle from a perspective and i don't even know if this is

01:31:48.800 where the argument is anymore hang on hang on i don't know where this is even has bases in the

01:31:52.600 argument fighting that battle meaning praying in public i don't see that to be the answer but i

01:31:56.560 don't know if that's what you're even fine yeah okay so what's your okay so you just said you

01:32:00.400 just said okay you just said it's you don't see the convincing argument that it's a holy war and

01:32:05.560 you said so who benefits from this war the most i think there's a spiritual element to it i think

01:32:10.340 the jews benefit the most okay so israel benefits the most right we're done with time yeah yeah

01:32:15.580 this is a religious ethno state what do they want this is the underlying greater greater israel yes

01:32:22.700 and what's greater israel for their antichrist okay so this is a holy war just like it's

01:32:30.000 undercover there's the skies but this is the greater purpose you're 100 you're ignoring what

01:32:36.040 i said i think if this war continues who knows what's going to happen in the next few months

01:32:39.420 if this war continues yeah it'll graduate into what looks like a holy war but islamically

01:32:43.140 the holy war is when muslims will fight jews i know and muslims will fight everybody else that's

01:32:49.640 because a lot of christians are going to follow the antichrist as well that's what i believe to

01:32:53.080 be the holy war i think that this current political conflict we're in has a spiritual element like

01:32:58.040 pete hegseth and his dumbass kafir tattoo and he was probably some raging christian nationalist and

01:33:02.880 he's anti-islam and he believes all the rhetoric and you got evangelical protestantism that says

01:33:06.900 that the muslims are terrorists and the israelis need to take them over so they can bring upon

01:33:10.660 their temple and bring their antichrist so our jesus christ can come i get it there's a spiritual

01:33:14.780 element but i don't think we've entered the holy war this moment i don't think i'm not saying okay

01:33:20.260 i'm not saying we think it's premature we didn't enter eschatology yet but this is the top and

01:33:27.300 this is the most important aspect about it this is where it really comes from is religion the

01:33:31.880 closest we've been this is the closest we've been and that's my point these are scary times i agree

01:33:35.920 and the reason i'm saying this myons is trying to separate and say oh i don't talk about religion

01:33:39.900 because i just talk about politics the point is this doesn't happen without religion they go hand

01:33:44.340 in hand you have to if you're going to talk about this war accurately you are not talking about it

01:33:49.520 accurately at all without mentioning religion yeah yeah no no there's a reason operation epic

01:33:53.960 fury has been celebrated in mega churches and why the pastors are all convincing him the same thing

01:33:59.040 it's the it is the top of importance for this war for sure yeah i think okay so i think highlighting

01:34:07.580 who's the main it's not there's just i just all started october 7th okay october 7th the main

01:34:14.060 reasons they invaded was because the abraham accords and the occupation obviously there was

01:34:19.480 a component with them destroying the lxa mosque as well but again the main reasons right were the

01:34:25.580 geopolitical reasons and the occupation and them not having a two-state solution, whatever it may

01:34:30.120 be. Yes. Again, I am not denying the fact that religion plays a role. However, there are other

01:34:35.180 underlying factors, right, that I would argue are far more prevalent into why these conflicts are

01:34:40.540 occurring and what's going on. Now, when it comes to religion, right, like with the state of Israel,

01:34:45.600 for example, here's the problem. They use religion when it benefits them, but they also don't use

01:34:49.360 religion. For example, Theodor Herzl was an atheist, and so was Ben-Gurion. But they used,

01:34:55.720 oh yeah, we're going to go ahead and use the excuse of, let's go to Israel because we can

01:35:00.240 use that politically to get people to come over here instead of Madagascar or whatever. So they're

01:35:04.440 using religion as a tool here and there, but there's still extremely important geopolitical

01:35:09.260 ramifications as to why they do the things. So religion comes in when it's convenient. But the

01:35:12.880 reality is religion isn't the main thing. It's a component that's used as a tool to push

01:35:18.400 geopolitical affairs and belief systems but what's the end goal

01:35:23.000 it's not for religion okay what's the end goal of israel

01:35:28.180 to increase the jewish state oh to increase the size of the jewish state there you go again that's

01:35:34.760 whoa jewishness here's the thing being jewish is an ethno religion so you can be a atheist jew you

01:35:43.360 could be a muslim jew you could be a christian jew what they care about is a jewish state so

01:35:47.520 it's ethnicity based not religion based they use religion when it benefits them right they use both

01:35:52.380 when it benefits them they use epsi when he benefits them even though epsi is not you know

01:35:55.820 following the law at all you could look it back at the chabad lubovitch rabbis begging netanyahu in

01:36:01.600 the 80s they're saying bring the mashiach now bring the mashiach now they're trying to accelerate

01:36:06.180 this so all the jews go to greater israel and they can have pax judaica and the reason they get this

01:36:11.320 idea the reason they want this is because it's part of their eschatology the core the top of

01:36:16.360 this all is religion i'm not i'm not i'm not saying that religion isn't important what i am

01:36:22.820 saying it wasn't the most important and it is it's not and it's not so what's it was if religion was

01:36:28.240 the most important the jews would have been gone a long ass time ago but why does the muslim world

01:36:31.300 not unite if it's a religious war like you claim people have not a religion so many there's there's

01:36:35.960 it's the reason the fact that the muslim world hasn't wiped out the jews yet and you claim it's

01:36:40.160 a religious war proves my point it's geopolitical uh alliances and aligned interests that's number

01:36:45.620 one religion is only used as a tool to push geopolitical affairs because if it was a religious

01:36:49.760 world like you claim the jews would have been gone a long ass fucking time ago so it's not

01:36:53.020 religious using the arab states as a reason to disprove eschatology is just that's just wrong

01:36:58.660 no no no no i think it's a crucial step though because the mahdi because the khilafah like the

01:37:04.140 muslims will unite and fight yes and it's gonna happen at a point of division exactly he's proving

01:37:08.820 my point the methi is gonna unite the islamic world when it's at a place of division and people

01:37:13.480 are going to come together right now we're seeing so much division in the muslim world this supports

01:37:17.740 the eschatology that's been predestined this is all part of the plan but that's my whole point is

01:37:24.520 right now the arab states are not unified so if the muslims aren't unified under the mahdi and

01:37:28.840 that's what he's to before coming of that's what he's to bring then we have to wait for that before

01:37:32.780 we call like this i look i think there's a spiritual element to it and it all does tie

01:37:36.300 back to the antichrist that's no one's arguing you agree with me what he's saying right now

01:37:40.140 no but what i think you're missing marriage point and disagreeing on something you're not realizing

01:37:43.960 he's saying i don't know if you're actually realizing he's saying i see it but he said

01:37:46.340 he's talking about the immediate right now but it's political right now because jews who are

01:37:50.680 in control and the ones who have propagated this war are effectively using secularism saying that

01:37:56.480 muslims are terrorists and the americas are ally in this but they're also using the religious angle

01:38:00.760 third temple hollowing out the ground on the masjid al-aqsa that as well so there's like a

01:38:04.820 little bit of disconnect but i think it's all going to come in tandem for a finale of a holy

01:38:08.940 yes you agree with me i'm not saying that mehi is here now the antichrist is here now what i'm

01:38:12.560 saying is it's political because it's religious these politics stem all from religion that's my

01:38:19.600 point and that's yeah i mean i'm not saying that this is the end times now but this is happening

01:38:24.500 because of religion none of these politics would be in place without it well yes partially but

01:38:30.400 not entirely and i'll tell you why the jewish ideological framework or their centering is for

01:38:35.060 the antichrist but it's also because of their diaspora from being expelled from europe so yeah

01:38:39.640 the jews may be chasing more borders and infringing their land upon others for the coming of the

01:38:44.820 antichrist and to destroy or bring that third temple but there's also the fact that jews have

01:38:48.720 been expelled for the last like thousand years from every country on the planet and every single

01:38:52.660 land and they've been demonized and victimized or they victimize themselves by being demonized

01:38:56.900 from christians from crusaders and others and so this is also a counteract to their history so as

01:39:02.280 much as there's a religious aspect like we need mashiach now and yeah there's that but there's

01:39:06.020 also like never again there's that memo there's that mo of like never again will the holocaust

01:39:10.740 happen never again will be kicked out of countries so it's also this like cry from a diaspora that

01:39:15.300 they've never had a land so there's that political aspect as well that's not religious

01:39:19.160 it's both yeah that's fair well that's fair it is it's but again it's political because it's

01:39:27.060 religious this is allah says is the quran that they're they are going to spread around the world

01:39:30.780 and they want to come back together and create this they want to reclaim this holy land because

01:39:36.740 they lost it in in the first place right so yeah talking about what's happening in the immediate

01:39:40.460 right now like in fact they're they're separate yeah they want to bring them back together but

01:39:44.280 there's a greater goal of greater israel that's my point so let's always look at the at the most

01:39:49.380 important not just like that's what's in front of us i don't mean to sit on what's behind us but

01:39:53.680 again it is important to always recognize the fact that this hunger and this thirst for

01:39:58.100 israeli sovereignty and jewish sovereignty does have a basis in the fact that they were expelled

01:40:02.880 from much of the world for a good deal of history up until recently so that's why they're so grounded

01:40:08.520 on maintaining their position in the middle east and then obviously just so happens that the middle

01:40:12.500 east has the third temple that being in jerusalem but don't forget the jews were considering going

01:40:17.380 to argentina to move their holy land as well so that's not really religious that's actually

01:40:21.980 political so there's a political side to it and there's a religious side to it i think they'll

01:40:26.100 both conjoin and then the religion will override everything. That's the Antichrist. That's the

01:40:30.100 Masih al-Dajjal. That's Mahdi. But right now you have to pay attention to that political point if

01:40:34.260 you want to be able to attack every single angle of this issue. I think politics runs it and then

01:40:38.320 religion is used sparingly whenever it's convenient to do so. Because if it was strictly

01:40:42.200 religion, the Jews would have been gone a long time ago. The Muslim world would have united and

01:40:46.100 it was strictly religion. But there's clearly geopolitical alliances and

01:40:50.200 other economic factors that come in that I think override the religious aspect.

01:40:54.340 that's my that's my argument i think the politics plays a bigger role than the religion you can make

01:40:58.420 the argument that the religion is root fine i can agree with that but i think um political alliances

01:41:04.100 and uh you know different affairs play way more into the conflict than just simply religion because

01:41:09.380 if it was religion they would have been wiped out a long time ago i mean this is predestined

01:41:14.340 he's talking about the war of gaga magog and this stuff is supposed to happen and we're aware of this

01:41:19.380 just because it's rooted in it i'm not saying it's not rooted in it i i agree with you that

01:41:23.700 it's rooted in it yeah but just because it didn't happen yet does not mean that it's going to happen

01:41:27.060 that doesn't but what are the what are the major what are you saying wait i didn't say it's gonna

01:41:31.380 not happen i didn't say that you said that because it didn't i said geopolitical affairs drive the

01:41:37.620 conflict more than religious affairs is what i'm saying look you have okay you have an israeli jew

01:41:43.140 my big proof of this is why is a muslim country bombing other muslim countries

01:41:47.140 if it was if religion rules all like you claim why is iran bombing all the gulf states who are

01:41:52.020 also fellow muslims okay they're seen as traitors and this says that we're going to be divided this

01:41:58.020 stuff has been you know allah did look you have an israeli jew i'll let you i know you're going to

01:42:02.020 segue in a moment but i'll just say this to like finish off and i don't think this disagrees with

01:42:04.860 your point you have an israeli jew they have the ethnic side which is i'm a jew i was kicked out

01:42:09.700 of the world like they have that whole thing where they were expelled from the world and so

01:42:13.140 they want to maintain their position in israel it's more political and then you have the religious

01:42:17.060 side, which is we want now, like, so there's both sides. And I think, although the political side

01:42:23.080 has made more manifestation with this war, because they want to remove Iran to eventually impose

01:42:28.200 their will on a region that's riddled with Iranian proxies that keep them at bay. There is the

01:42:33.560 religious aspect as well. I'll concede to both. But like, again, I think there's a, to say it's

01:42:37.880 a holy war now, in this moment, I think it's a little premature, but I get it. Like Pete Hegseth

01:42:42.700 and Donald Trump, they've been LARPing like this whole Christian nationalist, the bombing in

01:42:46.320 nigeria like they have been doing this like christian larp to kind of appease to like these

01:42:50.820 religious retard zealots who are 40 who drive red trucks they weaponize it no doubt they weaponize

01:42:57.060 it when it makes sense and they don't weaponize it when it doesn't like trump because you know

01:43:00.160 prays when he needs it but then he won't you know he didn't swear on a bible or anything else like

01:43:03.680 that we all we don't he's racially ambiguous but he uses the whole angle like where you're

01:43:07.700 you're killing nigerians and christian nigerians so we're going to use it so i think religion is

01:43:12.480 the root cause a lot of the problems and it's a tool to advance geopolitical things. But I don't

01:43:17.520 think it rules everything because if religion ruled everything, you know, Israel would exist,

01:43:22.800 honestly, if religion, if religion truly ruled everything.

SHNEAKO - March 11, 2026

SNEAKO 1v2 Debates Myron Gaines and Ryad Fudl： Times Square Prayer

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