SHNEAKO - SNEAKO & Adin Ross Get In A HEATED Religious Debate

00:00:00.000 i got him i got him oh my god oh my god bro based on your logic aiden alicia was six alicia's not

00:00:05.600 her name first off and that's not we don't know that but you know what we do know for certain

00:00:09.600 is the ritual the passing becoming mature bar mitzvah for men bat mitzvah for women you have

00:00:14.720 they're 13 years old that's when you become a man or a woman aiden said anybody who's not 18 is a

00:00:20.320 child therefore hold on hold on let me finish my point aiden you're interrupting me by your

00:00:25.360 logic because i believe in logic we're all men here every jew is a how many times do i have to

00:00:31.920 reiterate that this is not in the quran and this is a debated thing throughout history many muslims

00:00:35.680 think that she was 19. this is not confirmed you do not need to believe this to be muslim but this

00:00:40.080 is not an important part of the religion understand and even at the time and even in delaware 150

00:00:45.280 years ago seven-year-olds were getting married so in order to define right and wrong we need

00:00:49.920 need to find out where morality comes from this is my question this is what i what i question what

00:00:55.160 makes you being you know you're a muslim what makes islam different from the christianity

00:01:00.380 to catholic to judaism it's very similar i mean ramadan lent's coming up it starts

00:01:04.080 no no no sorry sneko i don't want to know what's similar i want to know what makes it

00:01:08.760 why no glaze but aiden played big role because good friend to sneko against these snakes because

00:01:14.080 i don't want to know it's similar because i'm explaining it because christianity believes

00:01:17.280 in three and one they believe in the trinity so we believe that jesus is the messiah isn't that

00:01:21.120 the truth the trinity in a way right like i know the old testament i don't need to say that but

00:01:25.500 like think about it what so what your god is ali right no no no no god is god a lot means god only

00:01:31.800 thing that so we pray to the god that jesus prayed to when jesus was alive he was praying

00:01:36.480 we believe that we just pray to the god that jesus prayed to right so is god a man aiden

00:01:40.220 no no that's what we believe we don't believe god can be a man but we believe that jesus was

00:01:44.840 is is the messiah but we don't believe we don't we don't believe in worshiping any man because

00:01:50.280 that's how corruption happens racial supremacy is why you have problems in the world the idea

00:01:55.360 that a race is superior and that they're that the rest are goyim that's why you have everything that

00:02:00.960 goes along but do christ do christians view god as a man as jesus christ right uh not all christians

00:02:07.400 but most of them do yes it's confusing so but that's that's why that's the only thing like

00:02:13.260 you could talk facts about israel palestine conflict but the religion thing is the one

00:02:18.240 thing that nobody will ever know the real truth because there's so many different religions

00:02:21.320 that's the thing it's the truth though and listen my by the way my i have the best friends that are

00:02:27.420 muslim best friends that are jewish best friends that are christian and as long as you're a man

00:02:31.340 of god i respect you and i admire you but what i'm saying is how do you know which one is the

00:02:34.940 real path the real right how many gods are there one okay then you're that's what that's what

00:02:41.100 Muslim literally believes in submission to God.

00:02:43.680 That's what the definition of Muslim is.

00:02:45.760 So by their logic, you are Muslim by that logic.

00:02:51.640 Yeah, that's all it means.

00:02:52.520 It doesn't have to be perfect.

00:02:53.680 I know we joke around about pork and drinking and gambling and stuff.

00:02:56.700 God doesn't expect you to be perfect.

00:02:58.580 But as long as you believe in one God, that's what that means.

00:03:02.520 Right.

00:03:02.880 But you don't think a man is God.

00:03:03.880 You don't think the Holy Spirit is God.

00:03:05.000 You don't pray to sin.

00:03:05.860 You know, Catholics pray to saints.

00:03:08.480 They pray to St. Mary.

00:03:09.920 Hold on.

00:03:10.380 Who's Christian?

00:03:10.840 i thought christ is god for christians what do you mean yes but also god is god because they

00:03:15.440 think that jesus is the son and also he had a father so that's why that's i grew up catholic

00:03:19.940 but that's why i became muslim because the trinity doesn't logically make sense you were

00:03:22.940 well you were catholic yeah my whole family's catholic my chat is spamming jesus is god

00:03:28.300 yeah there's probably uh mostly christians in your chat wait so sneak up why are we why are

00:03:32.620 muslims right well it's not about that neon that's being ignorant you don't know if muslims are right

00:03:37.980 no ask him in his opinion we do believe that we have the truth so muslims like every religion

00:03:42.960 believes they have the truth but we believe in the truth because we know that our innate desire

00:03:48.320 and what we're supposed to do as people is just worship the one true god is worship one god you

00:03:51.820 don't know but you don't know that that's the truth though we do if you're muslim you do we do

00:03:57.720 i get it we have full convictions but what about christians what do they believe in we believe

00:04:02.660 they're wrong just like christians believe that we're wrong right so where what's the point where

00:04:06.820 it's like okay this is wrong and this is wrong well we believe that they're wrong they believe

00:04:12.740 that we're wrong so but what what's wrong what are you talking about jew like what are you saying

00:04:17.340 we all believe into a god why do we have to split each other no no but the belief is i'm not trying

00:04:23.200 to criticize faith like it's okay if you're christian and everything you know there's a lot

00:04:26.220 of christians in my community but we believe that there's just one god one creator it starts with

00:04:31.280 one what do what do christians believe in they believe that jesus is also god but jesus was a

00:04:36.040 creation of the father so that doesn't make sense to us but if but but christians believe that christ

00:04:41.380 is god yes and we believe that they're wrong and they're they're misguided hold on a second but

00:04:46.740 so okay so you're saying our christians are misguided because they believe jesus christ is

00:04:50.880 god because they worship a man correct wait so sneaker what happened hold on a second but

00:04:55.740 christians believe and i'm thinking of christians i'm not christian so sorry i'm wrong guys

00:04:59.220 but christians believe that jesus christ came back for christians and died for people's sins

00:05:04.760 but he didn't come back yet he will come back but also yeah again again that's what i meant can god

00:05:09.640 die can god die he comes back no no but can but you said he died did so can god die when god was

00:05:17.640 a man he died afterwards the process he became but he wasn't a man right he was exactly that

00:05:24.360 jesus christ was god or is god sorry and that god sent him as his only begotten son so that but

00:05:30.840 But you are corrected.

00:05:31.880 I'm not Christian, so I'm not.

00:05:32.840 I know, but I'm saying, I know, you're getting it right.

00:05:34.800 But that does mean that God existed before Jesus.

00:05:37.240 So mostly we believe that we worship God.

00:05:39.940 So that's what I'm asking you, though.

00:05:41.480 So your guys' God is not Jesus Christ?

00:05:43.740 No, God is God.

00:05:45.140 So what is the difference?

00:05:46.700 That's what I'm saying.

00:05:47.320 That God is God.

00:05:48.720 The God that sent Jesus.

00:05:50.000 But you're saying that Jesus Christ is a prophet, correct?

00:05:52.720 Yes.

00:05:54.220 Okay.

00:05:54.820 And Christians also believe that Jesus Christ is a prophet.

00:05:57.120 Yes.

00:05:57.780 They also believe Jesus is a prophet and Jesus is a Messiah.

00:06:00.120 So my point, and again, Muslims watch me too.

00:06:04.060 I'm just trying to understand what the difference is.

00:06:06.180 So, okay.

00:06:07.240 So if Jesus Christ is a prophet, right?

00:06:09.960 So isn't he God then?

00:06:12.060 No, we don't worship prophets.

00:06:13.300 Prophets are messengers.

00:06:15.120 I know that.

00:06:16.280 Prophets are messengers from?

00:06:18.200 God.

00:06:19.360 So we just worship God.

00:06:20.520 So how did Jesus Christ, the Christians, believe that he became God or is God?

00:06:27.080 In the beginning, they didn't.

00:06:28.480 And this started to change afterwards.

00:06:30.120 and like even then the bible he doesn't claim to be god he says he was the way the truth and

00:06:35.180 the light but he doesn't say specifically i am god and jesus in the bible he was praying to god

00:06:39.460 he'd be like prostrated he actually prayed like muslims do he put his head to the floor

00:06:42.420 the way you did in a mosque that's how he prayed as well you know he didn't eat bacon and you know

00:06:48.040 he didn't eat pork this like this is this is in the bible so he did say it the chat said he did

00:06:53.560 say it no he didn't there's no quote saying i'm god the quote that they will cite is like the way

00:06:57.600 the truth and the light but that could be like the way is like the message

00:07:01.640 but is this quilly no no but she's you got i'm saying like i respect everyone that has god in

00:07:14.700 their life and you guys are man of god but what i'm trying to understand is there's there's three

00:07:19.300 different main religions four you can even say that's what i want to understand jesus what's

00:07:23.560 right what's wrong see that's my problem you're asking the wrong guy dude i believe in god but

00:07:27.340 I'm not a religion right now.

00:07:28.440 Is that bad?

00:07:30.260 Do you believe him?

00:07:30.960 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:07:31.780 Stiko, before him, I am.

00:07:33.460 So isn't that basically saying that he's God?

00:07:36.020 Hold on, Stiko.

00:07:36.560 What were you about to say about what I am?

00:07:38.520 No, that's what Jesus Christ said.

00:07:40.900 Before him, I am.

00:07:43.500 I don't know how...

00:07:44.420 I am means God, doesn't it?

00:07:45.920 I am means I am.

00:07:47.140 It doesn't mean God.

00:07:48.280 No, but he's saying I am God,

00:07:49.720 but he's not going to say God.

00:07:50.920 You know what I mean?

00:07:51.240 Why wouldn't he say I am?

00:07:51.820 If he's God, why wouldn't he say I'm God?

00:07:53.620 Because he's not going to say that.

00:07:55.280 Why?

00:07:56.040 Why would he...

00:07:57.320 Because why does he have to say he's God?

00:07:59.160 I am means I'm God.

00:08:00.480 Because that's the truth.

00:08:02.280 Why would God tell the truth?

00:08:04.060 But why would God say I am God?

00:08:06.260 Because he is.

00:08:08.260 I understand that.

00:08:09.780 But what I'm saying is if he says I am, that means I am God.

00:08:12.860 No, saying I am doesn't mean I am God.

00:08:14.680 That means I am.

00:08:15.880 But he's not going to say that.

00:08:17.580 He's God.

00:08:19.160 Again, I'm not Christian.

00:08:20.100 You're kind of looping.

00:08:20.900 But look, the way I see it is like God would not make things.

00:08:25.980 My bad, Jeff.

00:08:26.620 I'm fucking up.

00:08:27.000 Yeah, God wouldn't make things complicated.

00:08:29.780 He wants things to make sense to people.

00:08:33.720 And so Islam was simplifying these things and making sure that the misdirection wouldn't happen

00:08:40.260 and that we just worship God and God alone.

00:08:43.080 But Christians, we believe that they're so close.

00:08:45.080 Muslims and Christians almost believe in the same thing.

00:08:48.880 But again, there's similarities in Judaism.

00:08:52.800 There are.

00:08:53.840 Correct.

00:08:54.180 So that's my point to you, though.

00:08:55.620 i i don't want to know that and i'm not trying to divide people but i don't want to know the

00:08:59.540 similarities i want to know the differences because the differences learn okay do you want

00:09:02.780 to know why christianity arrived and then islam arrived after judaism what i think so i think

00:09:07.560 the torah arrived and i think the torah is a book of god i think the torah is a good book

00:09:11.280 but what it does say is that you are the chosen people and so the misinterpretation but hold on

00:09:15.260 a second but let me make this very clear to everybody right now when jews say we're chosen

00:09:18.700 i don't mean like oh we're chosen above anybody like jesus christ was jewish and he was chosen

00:09:22.840 You get that, Sneeko.

00:09:24.040 And the Jews rejected Jesus.

00:09:25.900 This is why things happen, because they're waiting for their true Messiah.

00:09:28.620 They rejected Jesus as the Messiah.

00:09:29.840 Which is, yes, it is Abraham in the Torah.

00:09:34.280 Abraham is, yes.

00:09:34.980 No, Abraham is not the Messiah.

00:09:36.980 No, I'm saying out in the Torah, Abraham is God in Judaism.

00:09:42.020 No, no, no, Yahweh is God in Judaism, but Abraham is a prophet.

00:09:45.860 No, no, no, no, I'm sorry, you're right, you're right, you're right.

00:09:48.320 Yeah.

00:09:48.500 Real quick, real quick, sorry.

00:09:50.040 Can I finish explaining?

00:09:50.740 Yes, I was going to finish explaining.

00:09:51.860 this is where religion started to diverge right jews were told by god that they're the chosen

00:09:58.500 people but what that means is that you were chosen to spread the word of god that you were chosen to

00:10:03.400 reveal the torah was revealed in their language so you're the people that should spread around

00:10:07.320 i think they misinterpreted and thought chosen meaning superior and after you had that superior

00:10:11.720 thing especially when they were kicked out of so many lands they were kicked out of 109 countries

00:10:14.780 the romans expelled them the temple was destroyed they had a crisis of faith i mean this is factual

00:10:19.160 They had a crisis of faith.

00:10:20.640 And after they were kicked out, they're like, wait, we're chosen, but we can't even have our homeland.

00:10:23.500 We're getting kicked out of everywhere.

00:10:24.900 People keep expelling us.

00:10:26.100 They're genociding us.

00:10:27.080 What's going on?

00:10:28.200 And then the rabbis took charge, and then the Talmud was written.

00:10:30.520 The Talmud came after the Torah.

00:10:32.240 And this is debates.

00:10:33.380 The Talmud is a book that came after the Torah.

00:10:35.060 The Talmud is basically debates transcribed between the rabbis and God.

00:10:40.340 So the rabbis are debating with God because the Jews got very angry.

00:10:43.400 They're like, we're chosen, but why are we getting kicked out?

00:10:45.120 And so they started arguing with God, and that's what the Talmud is.

00:10:47.780 And that's also in the Talmud where it says that Jesus is burning in feces and excrement.

00:10:51.400 Those people who wrote the Talmud, they hate Jesus.

00:10:53.720 What I think the misinterpretation was, and why I think Judaism is a good religion at its core, is that in Islam, for example, the Quran was revealed in Arabic.

00:11:00.900 Muhammad, he came from the region of Arabia.

00:11:03.280 But nobody worships Muhammad, peace be upon him.

00:11:05.420 Nobody worships Arabia or Arab or that language.

00:11:08.620 That was just a language that it was revealed in.

00:11:11.020 And Muhammad specified that this book and the word of God should be spread to anybody.

00:11:15.080 But do not worship me.

00:11:15.980 Do not worship this language.

00:11:17.780 we're chosen yes it was revealed to us but we need to spread it to the world the most populated

00:11:22.100 muslim country in the world is indonesia it's not even saudi arabia i see snico my question is i'm

00:11:27.860 not trying to get started anything i'm really not laughing or anything like that people say

00:11:31.060 how old was who are they referring to in islam the age of asia is not something that you need

00:11:37.240 to believe in because this is hadith i already knew that the chat was going to spend i want to

00:11:40.640 talk about this right this age is not confirmed this is an unreliable unreliable to hadith and

00:11:46.120 also this is a different time so some people say the average the average people live to like when

00:11:50.480 they were 30 years old back then right so you can't compare the life expectancy from today

00:11:54.540 she was actually nine years old like that's not confirmed we don't know that right this is not

00:11:58.980 people say that though they always say this is not in the Quran because some scholars some scholars

00:12:02.920 were of the belief that that happened right but that wasn't the same thing at the time so that

00:12:07.060 just came out of the air like what do you mean why did they say that because some scholars believe

00:12:10.860 in that but if that were true the life expectancy why do they believe that you're not answering why

00:12:14.220 do they believe that because it came from it came from some scholars at the time but aiden you have

00:12:19.400 to contextualize you have to hold on hold on hold on six years old is crazy bro yeah you have to

00:12:24.460 contextualize look up what was the life expectancy in that time 600 ad what would google that what's

00:12:29.300 what was the average that is a hell the average life expectancy was around 30 years old all right

00:12:33.480 so people were and also the you can't compare that to today and even though do you know do you know

00:12:37.900 what the age of consent in delaware was in 1800 what what seven okay and there's instances people

00:12:45.340 like you know if they say this in the in the bible rebecca was married at the age of three

00:12:48.740 you know across across his all over case oh cheeser in 1871 delaware lowered its age of

00:12:55.180 consent from 10 to 7 years old so and this is more recently you're talking about muhammad peace

00:13:00.240 upon him who lived you know 1400 years ago delaware that's in america 150 years ago right

00:13:06.300 That is actually insane.

00:13:07.580 The idea of marriage today is different.

00:13:09.880 That's not socially acceptable,

00:13:10.820 and it would not be normal for somebody to marry

00:13:13.280 somebody who's nine or six years old.

00:13:14.920 That doesn't mean it's right, though, like morally.

00:13:16.980 But at the time...

00:13:17.880 In Bosnia, right now, it's 14 years old.

00:13:19.740 It's 14 years old.

00:13:20.880 Right now, right now, in Bosnia, it's 14.

00:13:22.700 Yeah, and Italy is 14 years old,

00:13:25.260 and so we have this idea 18-18.

00:13:27.200 But again, that's not morally right.

00:13:29.380 So what is morally right, Aiden?

00:13:31.400 having sex with somebody that's uh at a maturity and age what's maturity what what defines maturity

00:13:38.640 to consensus i don't know in my opinion if someone's grown they no no but what defines

00:13:42.760 what defines maturity age um no no no experience not age what defines maturity when somebody

00:13:48.620 becomes mature it's after puberty correct but puberty their brain development their brain

00:13:52.560 development how they are no but final brain development happens when you're 25 25 years old

00:13:57.320 so physical maturity that's when 18 18 they say you're an adult right 18 but that doesn't have

00:14:02.220 any basis that isn't like around the world it's not even 18 saying that's basic okay so 25 because

00:14:06.360 that's when you're scientific but that's not but that's not even the age of consent i i understand

00:14:10.600 but scientifically your your frontal lobe stops that's what you just asked right so based off

00:14:15.220 that logic meant like mental maturity then should be 25 but physical maturity is the best barometer

00:14:19.180 of that that's the honest with you i don't think you should vote as an american until you're 25

00:14:22.600 i don't think you should if you can drink at fucking 21 and shit why the fuck like i think

00:14:28.320 that's backwards that's why i'm saying like i have a question you guys genuinely i'm not trying to

00:14:33.100 like be honest we know that the age of consent bosnia for example is 14 that's bullshit i don't

00:14:38.740 care what anybody says no in nigeria it's 11 in japan i think it's 12 years old yeah but that's

00:14:45.040 not right okay so what's right that's not right no no you're not here that's my question what's

00:14:50.340 right listen you're not you're still not answering i can't correct like maybe i can't so you know

00:14:54.780 what's wrong but you don't know what's right but snico can i ask you a question if you had an 11

00:14:58.580 year old and they got to consent to have sex with a 50 year old do you think that's right if you had

00:15:02.220 11 year old daughter no i don't think people should be consenting to sex ideally out of marriage i

00:15:05.940 think that there should be marriage before no no no for again i get that because your religion but

00:15:10.640 forget that for a second i'm saying morally do you believe without the marriage thing it

00:15:15.540 fine let's say an 11 year old gets married to a 50 year old can they is that is that okay

00:15:19.220 the barometer the question should not be age i'm answering your question are you gonna let me

00:15:24.220 answer just yes or no if they're married it's not it this is not a yes or no question the age

00:15:30.080 should be the age of maturity when people are physically mature that's when they are literally

00:15:34.600 physically capable in order to reproduce the purpose of sex but 11 but 11 isn't mature

00:15:39.460 yeah most people are the average age the average age where people are physically ready hold on i'm

00:15:45.800 answering your question i'm answering your question do you want to hear the answer or no

00:15:49.620 yeah okay most people the average age they get averages around 15 or 16 years old when people

00:15:55.120 are done with puberty yeah so but that's not that's not like you're not like an adult like

00:16:00.460 you can't make so what is an adult when i'm sick so what i'm making what is what is an adult i

00:16:04.340 have a question for all of you you're not answer my question i answered your question you can't

00:16:06.760 answer my question what is an adult you didn't answer my question i i did i did i did i did i

00:16:11.440 did not i didn't i didn't dodge it stickle stickle i asked you a question i said if you have a

00:16:14.860 daughter she's 11 she's married to a 50 year old can they is that consent is that is that right is

00:16:18.720 that right no and that's that's probably not because they're not going to be physically

00:16:22.520 mature yet that's not how's that probably not for sure no there's almost no 16 15 14 14 year old

00:16:29.080 okay as i said the physical is when they come okay i can't aiden hold on before we have this

00:16:35.620 conversation let's let's make some definitions what is an adult 18 why is what's an adult google

00:16:43.440 with no no no i'm asking i'm not i'm asking you what's the definition of an adult you can yeah

00:16:47.700 great persons whose body is done developing exactly that's finished after puberty it's not 18

00:16:53.640 18 does not it's not the that's a legal definition of adult in america but hold on but but but stico

00:16:58.960 can ask you a question though like do you understand that people don't look grown for

00:17:04.780 example until they're maybe even sometimes over 18 yeah there's it varies a lot there's a lot of

00:17:10.700 18 year olds that are not ready for marriage fine stico a 16 year old do you think that that 16

00:17:16.260 year old should be able to get married to a 50 year old okay you know what's happening in america

00:17:20.680 right now 16 year olds can get fucked and have a body count of 10 right they're sleeping around

00:17:25.520 they're getting involved in hoe culture like i don't care that's i know but this is this is

00:17:30.620 what's normalized in the west is 16 year olds are getting fucked and they can get a 10 body count

00:17:35.340 but before they're 18 but but stico i'm not again i don't i don't think it's right you're right

00:17:40.320 because we live in a generation where it's only getting worse and worse and worse exactly i'm

00:17:43.660 asking you a question so would you prefer your 16 year old to not 10 bodies and to instead get

00:17:48.480 married to a 50 year old muslim man ideally not a 50 year old no i think there's going to be

00:17:53.380 they're not going to be able to probably communicate 40 40 look it's not but the thing

00:17:59.120 is it's not specifically about the it's about if it makes sense marriage wise and so as her father

00:18:03.320 if i saw a 40 year old man wanting to marry her in these societal circumstances most likely that's

00:18:08.680 not going to make sense most likely i wouldn't allow that most likely that's not going to be a

00:18:13.220 good relationship it's it's what's going to make the best marriage for them what's going to make

00:18:17.380 her that what what's going to make her the happiest would you allow your 15 year old

00:18:21.260 daughter to marry a 30 year old i just answered your question you're changing around the ages

00:18:25.560 again but you know obviously not though that's illegal yeah again we don't break the law muslims

00:18:30.600 we believe that we have to follow the law of the land so if the age of consent is a certain age

00:18:34.040 we're not going to break the law we don't believe in breaking the law of the land okay so so then

00:18:37.840 Okay, so in order for me to continue this conversation, Aiden, you have to define what adult means.

00:18:44.900 I'll be back in really one minute.

00:18:46.800 Dude, you keep going.

00:18:47.580 Jeez, this is insane.

00:18:49.180 Why are you not answering a simple question?

00:18:51.300 You can't have a –

00:18:51.840 Do you want me to Google it or what?

00:18:54.300 Well, yeah, sure.

00:18:55.180 Google it and tell me what the definition of adult is.

00:18:57.460 All right.

00:18:57.960 What is an adult?

00:19:00.540 Here's the definition on Google.

00:19:01.760 and adults are generally defined as a person who has attained physical psychological and legal

00:19:06.960 maturity typically recognized at the age of 18 in most countries that's that's also not true 18 is

00:19:11.780 not the truth in most countries okay then look again so physical maturity that's the first

00:19:15.920 definition right yeah that's the first definition physical maturity i don't know if you need to

00:19:20.980 google google it again but when google when does somebody reach physical maturity this is a google

00:19:25.200 definition i mean it says 18 no no no no when when does somebody that's the legal that's that's not

00:19:30.520 true physical maturity that's legal is a separate question when does somebody just it included it

00:19:35.600 what are you talking about okay so now google when does somebody reach physical maturity or

00:19:39.940 how does somebody reach physical maturity google that it says when you're 18 no no no no no no no

00:19:44.840 that's the legal age of adult they're saying in america okay so what are you asking me to google

00:19:49.940 what is or no how does somebody reach physical maturity how does somebody reach physical maturity

00:19:56.480 you're muted i can't hear you i'm back you hear me yeah what did you say yeah reaching physical

00:20:13.360 maturity is a complex multi-year process known as puberty during which is child's body undergoes

00:20:17.180 hormonal structural structural role right okay there you go so people have reached physical

00:20:22.540 maturity people become adults after puberty that is the physical measurement of when somebody

00:20:27.800 becomes an adult but but sneaker hold on a second that okay that could say that on fucking google

00:20:33.840 let me ask you a genuine question here i get it you can relate to all this this this this this

00:20:38.340 it's a genuine question what i'm asking you okay okay genuine it's a genuine question so

00:20:46.540 in the definition it says six is six mature then again at the time this is a different time and if

00:20:54.320 she was if they said that she was on physical maturity and i'm reiterating it again you asked

00:20:59.980 me this question it's an unreliable hadith there's direct hadith and this is from the sayings people

00:21:04.460 who were around the prophet muhammad to become a muslim you have to believe in the quran the quran

00:21:09.000 is the word of god right this age was not specified in the quran so this is not even an important part

00:21:15.340 of islam this is a separate part second it's stated that she was of physical maturity so we're

00:21:20.820 supposed to believe that she had so many enemies at the time muhammad peace upon him was always at

00:21:24.600 war none of his detractors ever brought this up as a problem because most people died at 30 people

00:21:29.780 at the time they got married much younger and again even 150 years ago like you saw in delaware

00:21:35.000 the age of marriage was seven years old this is recently in western america we're talking about

00:21:39.760 600 AD, 1400 years ago. That doesn't mean it's morally correct. Okay. But you said, right,

00:21:45.700 right. Hold on. Let me follow your line of logic. You said people should get married once they

00:21:50.040 become adults, correct? Yeah. Okay. People become adults after they reach the age of puberty,

00:21:55.360 right? No. Why not? Because it's, again, there could be a definition on Google. I think everybody

00:22:05.500 could have a okay so if you don't believe in the google that no it said 18 it said 18 okay so then

00:22:10.780 so then by your but then by your belief system most of the world they're all pedophiles because

00:22:15.540 most of the world's not 18 but whole world's pedophiles except for you everyone's a pedophile

00:22:19.960 except for you bosnia is all pedophiles japan they're all pedophiles nigeria italy they're

00:22:24.820 all pedophiles according to your logic if it's 18 we're not pedos well that's what aiden said

00:22:29.260 anything if you're not 18 it's a pedo you're a pedophile even though even most states in america

00:22:33.300 the age of consent of 16 hold on a second yes like if you're not 18 you are a pedophile you are why

00:22:38.720 what is pedophilia you're not an adult what does pedophilia mean having sex being attracted to

00:22:45.740 children right correct okay the definition of google says people become adults after they

00:22:50.920 reach puberty okay so you disagree with the definition of an adult but it's not even a

00:22:55.960 definition thing it's a moral thing okay so asking you a question so you but no no aiden you realize

00:23:00.100 you made up

00:23:02.720 your own definition of adult

00:23:04.040 just now

00:23:04.820 you see what you're doing

00:23:06.340 you're dodging

00:23:07.140 if you ask me a question

00:23:08.020 I say yes or no

00:23:08.700 so I'm going to ask you a question

00:23:10.000 you can ask me a question

00:23:10.820 we say yes or no

00:23:11.500 don't explain

00:23:12.240 yes or no

00:23:12.960 okay

00:23:13.220 I'm going to do the same thing

00:23:14.040 you can ask me yes

00:23:15.060 I'll say yes or no

00:23:15.760 and you answer yes or no

00:23:16.680 don't explain

00:23:17.340 okay

00:23:17.920 please

00:23:18.520 yes no

00:23:19.160 okay

00:23:19.780 Sneeko

00:23:20.760 I'm asking you a question

00:23:22.220 do you believe

00:23:24.000 I know what you're going to ask

00:23:24.800 15 and 30 right

00:23:25.580 I wasn't going to say that question

00:23:28.900 what's your question

00:23:29.500 my question is do you believe that you're an adult at 18 years old

00:23:36.200 most people yeah okay so you do most people because puberty probably happens mostly around 15 16

00:23:45.420 do you believe that morally

00:23:50.800 it's right to be

00:23:55.360 under the age of 18 and get with somebody who's over the age of 18 okay so a 17 and a 19 year

00:24:05.160 old is that that's the question i'm answering no no no no no you said you're gonna ask a question

00:24:09.980 so i'll answer it a 17 year old i didn't say that or no but that that follows your line of

00:24:14.980 questioning a 17 year old is not an adult and according to you a 19 year old is an adult

00:24:19.480 that's your definition no no yeah you did yes you did they didn't don't start changing it now

00:24:24.100 no no no no Aiden stop stop hold on because I said definitions are important I said and I'm

00:24:30.280 following the google definition an adult is somebody reached puberty you said I disagree

00:24:34.020 with the google definition an adult is 18 so I'm following your logic a 17 year old is a child

00:24:39.460 a 19 year old is an adult is it okay for them to be in a consenting relationship I think yes

00:24:44.540 does that make me a pedophile how do they meet in high school one was a junior one was a senior

00:24:51.960 I think that's okay, too.

00:24:53.000 I'm going to be honest.

00:24:53.720 According to Aiden,

00:24:54.660 no, according to Aiden,

00:24:55.760 Cheezer, you're a pedophile

00:24:57.000 because he said 18 is an adult.

00:24:59.440 You're twisting that.

00:25:00.200 No, I'm not.

00:25:00.720 I am not twisting your words.

00:25:02.260 I followed your logic exactly,

00:25:04.320 and now you're disagreeing

00:25:05.160 with your own words.

00:25:06.260 Stico, I didn't bring up 17 and 19.

00:25:08.340 No, you brought up 18.

00:25:10.160 You said 18 is an adult.

00:25:11.400 I said 18.

00:25:12.300 Okay, so therefore,

00:25:13.780 by your definition,

00:25:15.460 a 17-year-old is a child

00:25:16.580 and a 19-year-old is an adult.

00:25:18.620 so so if you disagree with the google definition the other now 18 is an adult if you're 17 years

00:25:25.320 old 364 days you're a child i'm listening i'm just listening bro this is entertaining as fuck

00:25:32.880 a liar alicia what's her name

00:25:36.400 she was six years old right was she six years old i don't know anything about this nico can

00:25:42.100 answer for me we don't know this for certain once again we don't like i wouldn't lie about

00:25:47.280 my religion we do not know this for certain this age is not confirmed i'm just asking the question

00:25:53.100 and i answered you four times i answered you four times i'm telling you twisted it so i'm not

00:25:57.600 twisting it aiden you can google this yourself nico you're a great debater i'm not even i'm

00:26:02.820 just telling you you twisted it i'm twisting it i asked you a question okay when i brought up a

00:26:07.280 question you and i said if you had a 16 year old daughter you said my 16 year old daughter will

00:26:11.120 have 10 bodies whatever that's in an americanized um yeah public school that is the system that

00:26:16.840 says age of that adult is 18 no matter what that's the society we've created sneaker would

00:26:22.280 you rather your 16 year old get with other 16 year olds or get with like a 25 or 30 year old

00:26:26.620 again i don't want my daughter to be having sex out of wedlock i want her to get married

00:26:30.460 i don't want her to be sleeping around in general in general totally but but but but think i didn't

00:26:35.100 ask you that i asked you what would you rather your your daughter have sex and get with people

00:26:39.100 that are her age or or above her age and she's and again she's under 18 would i rather have

00:26:44.800 her have sex with people of her age or that are older yeah probably her age if she's having sex

00:26:49.360 out of wedlock yeah so thank you because i mean that's it i know but they're having a different

00:26:54.840 conversation no but think that then you understand the morals and you know what i'm trying to do and

00:26:59.080 you know what i'm trying to say you can i be honest nobody in this chat and nobody in this

00:27:03.960 discord if your daughters for example were 16 getting with a fucking 30 year old that's a big

00:27:09.220 fucking problem yeah but you're not you're not seeing the bigger picture the point is that we

00:27:12.100 what's the bigger picture to that that we want to advocate for marriage we don't want to have

00:27:16.480 this free sex society where people are sleeping around and discovering themselves and then girls

00:27:21.340 they lose their souls by the time they're ready to get married and they're ran through

00:27:24.760 girls that get a bunch of bodies they're soulless afterwards we all know this

00:27:28.320 every man in this call what every man in this call wants to get married to a virgin

00:27:32.800 because they're more pure and because society that insists about 18 18 18 age of consent

00:27:38.420 You want to go with less.

00:27:39.840 Good luck.

00:27:40.280 I want to pop a girl's cherry.

00:27:42.160 I'm not kidding.

00:27:42.600 America is cooked, though.

00:27:43.420 Yeah, I'm not kidding.

00:27:44.660 I think that's actually impossible.

00:27:47.040 Did you pop Kalen's cherry?

00:27:48.960 Shut up, bro.

00:27:51.920 Yeah, anyways.

00:27:53.240 But I don't know about virgin.

00:27:54.560 Actually, I don't want to talk about that.

00:27:55.560 I'm just kidding.

00:27:56.860 If you're like 30 years old, you're not going to find a virgin.

00:28:00.500 If you're 18, you're not going to find a virgin.

00:28:04.140 Yeah, I'm not going to last, bro.

00:28:05.300 We live in such a fucked up generation.

00:28:06.540 bro if you're actually i don't want people to take that wrong what so every girl's a whore

00:28:10.340 you just gotta turn them into like a lie bro like nah just every girl in this in the u.s is a whore

00:28:16.160 bro i'm telling you not all of them that's too bro i feel like most people are starting now like

00:28:21.280 at any age bro it's bad bro you just have to fix them bro you can fix them like bro i'm talking

00:28:25.660 like bro like they go in elementary school it's bro bro listen i one of my high school they said

00:28:30.980 a girl in high school has like 20 bodies and she's like 16 i swear to god i'm like 17 but then you

00:28:36.180 could just fix them bro because that doesn't mean they always have to be able but can you imagine

00:28:39.100 after college too it's gonna be like six oh it's over yeah call it yeah every girl's sleeping

00:28:46.320 around doing shit experiencing like bro that's why i just i don't know chat all you guys that

00:28:54.180 are in college what's like the average college what's what's the average like 21 year old girl

00:28:57.780 in college body count genuinely probably 20 to 30 bodies bro that's fucking disgusting bro

00:29:03.720 it's crazy it's not 30 that's crazy no he's right he's right he's right cheeser think about it like

00:29:08.760 five to seven five to eight five days are you in high school probably and and cheeser think about

00:29:14.280 it bro but if you're in college university with you get drunk at parties and you and you go out

00:29:20.360 you go bar hopping bro you're one guy a year oh wait i just remembered yo aiden wait what age did

00:29:25.800 you have a bar mitzvah uh 13 technically okay do you know what bar mitzvah means wait what

00:29:32.840 What is a bar mitzvah and a bat mitzvah?

00:29:34.200 He's got a man.

00:29:35.260 Oh!

00:29:39.120 Bang!

00:29:41.700 Therefore, Aiden.

00:29:42.860 Wait, let's run it back.

00:29:44.080 Based on your logic, Aiden, I'm following.

00:29:47.560 Hold on, hold on.

00:29:48.020 I got him.

00:29:48.400 I got him.

00:29:48.780 Oh, my God.

00:29:49.300 Oh, my God.

00:29:50.100 Bro, based on your logic, Aiden.

00:29:52.220 Alicia was six.

00:29:53.440 Alicia's not her name.

00:29:54.400 First off, we don't know that.

00:29:56.140 But, you know, what we do know for certain is the ritual, the passing, becoming mature.

00:30:01.040 Bar mitzvah for men, bat mitzvah for women.

00:30:02.840 you have they're 13 years old that's when you become a man or a woman aiden said anybody who's

00:30:08.540 not 18 is a child therefore hold on hold on let me finish my point aiden you're interrupting me

00:30:13.680 by your logic aiden because i believe in logic we're all men here every jew is a file according

00:30:19.980 to aiden ross how is that so because because you said everybody under 18 is a child therefore

00:30:27.460 every Jew who had a bar mitzvah

00:30:29.300 was 13, they're adults

00:30:31.180 every Jew ate it, stand on it

00:30:33.120 don't talk about Epstein, according to you

00:30:35.500 all the good Jews

00:30:36.740 all the good Jews are pedophiles

00:30:39.760 according to you

00:30:40.340 that is literally what you said

00:30:43.060 that is your logic

00:30:43.940 so what's Islam's logic, Sneeko

00:30:47.340 what's Islam's logic

00:30:48.540 the age of maturity

00:30:51.580 is after puberty

00:30:53.080 it doesn't make people fight, I'm right and he's wrong

00:30:55.500 My whole point

00:30:58.760 My whole point was

00:31:00.840 Religion, yes, if you're a man of God, you're a man of God

00:31:03.520 Morally right

00:31:05.260 Okay, so Judaism is morally wrong, Aiden

00:31:07.980 Bro, I don't

00:31:09.360 I don't think out of 13 you're a man

00:31:10.740 Okay, so you're saying Judaism is morally wrong

00:31:13.980 In any religion

00:31:16.020 If they say 13 year old, you're a man, I think you're wrong

00:31:18.020 Okay, so Judaism is morally wrong

00:31:19.160 I think if you say 13 year old, you're a man, yeah

00:31:21.960 You know what a slump says?

00:31:24.160 Okay, so Judaism is morally wrong

00:31:25.220 You know what a slump says about the age?

00:31:26.560 Wait, so Neon, are you a woman at 13?

00:31:29.420 I don't give a...

00:31:30.380 Bro, what do you...

00:31:30.780 I don't...

00:31:31.300 You don't give a fuck, you NFL.

00:31:33.180 Wait, yo.

00:31:34.820 Yo, bro, you a peddle guy?

00:31:37.420 Hey, hey, hey, no.

00:31:39.360 No, no, no.

00:31:41.340 I'm going back to Twitch.

00:31:42.820 I can't...

00:31:43.060 No, bro, yo, listen.

00:31:43.740 That's not what I meant, bro.

00:31:45.200 I'm asking you, what do you mean?

00:31:46.880 Stiko, when are you a man

00:31:48.520 and when are you a woman in your eyes?

00:31:49.760 I've said this like five times a year.

00:31:51.160 I don't know how, like, you don't understand it at this point.

00:31:53.120 18, right? 18.

00:31:54.060 How many times?

00:31:55.020 Are you slow?

00:31:56.180 Like, do you guys...

00:31:56.880 That's a good question.

00:31:57.400 Are you ready?

00:31:58.080 Sneeko, okay.

00:31:58.620 Sneeko said after puberty.

00:31:59.640 So if a 13-year-old...

00:32:00.480 Are you like brain dead?

00:32:02.400 I said puberty, like 50 billion.

00:32:03.980 That's a great question.

00:32:04.940 So real quick.

00:32:05.600 If a girl's done with puberty at 13, by the way, I'm not against you.

00:32:08.300 And I'm also not a pedo.

00:32:09.340 But if a girl's done with puberty after 13, is that an adult?

00:32:11.560 If she's done with puberty at 13?

00:32:12.640 It also specifies in Islam that the age of marriage, you're supposed to be mentally ready too.

00:32:16.600 So people, if they go through puberty early and you're not mentally ready, if you're still juvenile,

00:32:20.460 if you're still going through school then most likely you're not going to be ready for marriage

00:32:23.820 most people like look at i don't i've never met a 13 year old girl who's ready for marriage

00:32:27.820 especially in the society we mature slower so yeah you might be physically mature but mental

00:32:31.740 maturity is also an aspect right are you ready are you going to be mentally ready to be a husband

00:32:36.860 and wife you know any 13 year olds are i don't so no it was muhammad when what when he married alicia

00:32:45.020 hold on her name is okay aiden her name was asha and muhammad peace be upon him he had nine wives

00:32:51.920 he had he had nine wives aisha right he had nine wives i'm not trying to be weird that's

00:32:57.380 fucked up no to have nine wives well at the time hold on there were i think islam is a beautiful

00:33:01.860 religion but i think we're not supposed to have nine we're supposed to have four but do you want

00:33:05.260 do you want to know why he married do you want to know why he married these women yeah why because

00:33:09.260 at the time men were supposed to protect the women in islam they're always at war there were

00:33:13.420 these widowed women people are always at battle and when the women they were widowed a lot of

00:33:18.380 times uh muhammad's companions they would say if i die in battle please marry my wife so you can

00:33:23.420 take care of her because they need to have a supervisor it's either the father or the husband

00:33:27.580 so these widowed people and these these women who were not being able to be protected muhammad

00:33:32.140 would marry them so that now they could be financially and they could be protected by

00:33:34.940 somebody they were always at war there was wartime what wait was so one of the nine wives

00:33:42.320 was nine that's how many times do you are you slow like aiden i said this like so many times

00:33:47.540 i want to hear your question i want to hear your question i want your question but but aiden like

00:33:54.400 now you're like willfully being stupid and it's just like disingenuous like how many times do i

00:33:59.520 have to reiterate that this is not in the quran do you understand do you hear what i'm saying

00:34:03.040 why do they say this nicole why do they randomly because again it comes from a specific school of

00:34:08.040 thought and this is a debated thing throughout history many muslims think that she was 19

00:34:11.260 but this is not confirmed you do not need to believe this to be muslims 19 that's all you

00:34:16.140 have to say bro no not all muslims but this is not an important part of the religion understand

00:34:20.820 and even at the time and even in delaware 150 years ago seven-year-olds were getting married

00:34:26.080 this was a right it's not right okay but at the time it was because it was passed and because

00:34:31.540 it was socially accepted never right it's never right it was a social norm it was it was a social

00:34:36.160 one exactly right and wrong there's a separate conversation yeah what was your question i forgot

00:34:40.320 it fuck you bro just continue all right give tiktok brain you had a good question no bro i'm i'm i'm

00:34:45.520 i'm trying to understand all this okay so muslims right now and current muslims they believe that

00:34:49.640 they should have four wives right now no that it's not that you should 80 of muslims have one wife

00:34:53.960 80 of muslims men are in monogamous relationships what about the other 20 okay so that's good

00:34:58.260 Then some have two, some have three, and some have four.

00:35:01.420 Damn.

00:35:01.860 But you don't have to.

00:35:03.060 Sneeko, how many do you want?

00:35:04.020 You start with one.

00:35:04.880 I don't know how many I want.

00:35:06.720 I think, guys, let's be honest.

00:35:07.700 We all want one wife.

00:35:08.640 One wife.

00:35:09.160 Of course.

00:35:09.500 I don't want more than one.

00:35:10.340 You don't want to have multiple wives.

00:35:11.960 I could have two or three or four.

00:35:12.900 But, Sneeko, what girl is going to be okay with you having multiple wives?

00:35:15.400 It's not about that.

00:35:15.980 A pious religious woman is going to be okay with you.

00:35:19.180 You're going to get cheated on, bro.

00:35:20.340 You're going to get cheated on.

00:35:20.780 A traditional.

00:35:21.680 I think the girl is going to cheat on you, too.

00:35:23.640 If that happens, the girl is going to cheat on you.

00:35:24.760 No, she's going to be with you and cheat on you, bro.

00:35:26.400 She'll resent you no matter what.

00:35:27.620 She won't really love you.

00:35:28.800 Okay, do you think women resent you anyway?

00:35:32.020 Eventually, yeah.

00:35:32.580 Yeah, yeah.

00:35:33.000 Every woman.

00:35:33.420 Okay, so...

00:35:34.060 What?

00:35:34.520 Wait, what does that mean?

00:35:35.220 What does that mean?

00:35:36.000 Women will just...

00:35:36.980 Women constantly nag you.

00:35:38.220 Women try to, like, break you down.

00:35:39.500 When you're in a house with them, she's going to be saying,

00:35:41.100 why are you doing this?

00:35:41.880 Why are you on Fortnite?

00:35:42.560 Why are you streaming so much?

00:35:43.440 Why are you doing this?

00:35:44.000 They're going to nag and nag and nag you.

00:35:45.440 You know why?

00:35:45.860 Because she has security that you're in a monogamous relationship

00:35:48.560 and you're not going to leave.

00:35:49.840 She's comfortable now.

00:35:50.720 oh jeez you're making a face like this is happening like you know when you're in a

00:35:53.540 relationship with a girl for a long time she starts like why are you doing this why are you

00:35:56.160 doing that why are you doing this why are you doing that no this is why you don't bring

00:35:58.760 relationships public no no i'm not i'm not even saying you're doing that i'm not but this happens

00:36:02.160 in all relationships women get comfortable she has security and now that she has that security

00:36:05.740 she's going to berate you to get more time women operate better when they have competition right

00:36:09.780 when they're competing against other women and they get a little bit jealous and a little bit

00:36:12.920 insecure that's when they operate their best because her time with you that's extra special

00:36:16.960 and she's not going to want you to go she's not going to want you to go to the second wife

00:36:19.900 so now it's gonna put on the best foot in dating game yes but once you have children it's different

00:36:24.880 right you're a family you cheat on your wife you cheat on your children no cheating cheating is

00:36:29.400 cheating is lying having two wives that's not lying that's not cheating this is accepted

00:36:33.440 i think that if it's accepted by you i i think a traditional marriage like one wife multiple kids

00:36:38.540 with the same person that's traditional i feel like that's what's best yeah how's that working

00:36:42.240 out for the west not so good no it's not married for the wrong no those people get people get

00:36:48.940 married for the wrong reasons 100 like 50 years ago snico people would stay together social media

00:36:53.200 ruins stuff temptation yeah feminism took over women have more power than ever honestly i i

00:36:58.360 agree with that women are getting more and more labe i agree yeah yeah like but but snico a

00:37:03.400 traditional household meaning stay-at-home mom not really trying to do too much knowing there

00:37:08.640 i think that traditional it's still there and it could still happen it's not working out in the

00:37:13.760 west like the white race the population is going to be overtaken by hispanics very soon

00:37:17.740 sneaker just because 80 people you can still be that 20 that has a genuine bond in a relationship

00:37:23.540 with somebody with beautiful kids and a good connection and you could have that for that for

00:37:27.660 your kids i'm just saying it's possible yeah the minority it's not but for the majority it's not

00:37:31.500 working out i mean okay fair but but but sneaker it's there it could happen people give up so

00:37:37.220 easily now do you agree i feel like people like nowadays they don't really like give it their all

00:37:41.560 by the way i'm not saying it's just men it's women too i'm just telling you people that are

00:37:45.560 married for a long time they get married for the wrong reasons they might have a baby they might

00:37:48.820 resent their person before they even have that baby so that that relationship is already gonna

00:37:53.600 bound to fuck up one day anyway they're not happy they beat each other they do this together they're

00:37:58.360 abusive they cheat on one another people stay together for the wrong reasons they stay financially

00:38:02.140 stable you get what i'm trying to say so my point is i'm talking about a it's very rare a relationship

00:38:08.000 where they have a man and a woman have an understanding and they are with each other for

00:38:11.100 the right reasons and there's no flaws and red flags because they've gotten over that and they

00:38:14.820 have children a traditional household stay-at-home mom knows your place doesn't overstep boundaries

00:38:19.560 none of that that's what i'm asking you yeah i mean that sounds good on paper but feminism

00:38:24.740 taking over the hadith about the age of asia oh that's what that's about no hadith it just means

00:38:32.960 okay so let me explain laughing okay the hadith is my chat sending me this thing it says a hadith

00:38:40.060 the prophet married a girl when she was six or something i don't know okay do you want me to

00:38:44.380 explain yeah okay so in order to be muslim you have to believe in the quran and then we also

00:38:50.920 follow the sunnah the sunnah is looking at the life of prophet muhammad and realizing that this

00:38:54.940 is the best example for us to follow right he was an example of a pious of a righteous man

00:38:59.660 and so the hadiths are the sayings of what he did in his life and so there's there's many different

00:39:03.380 kinds of hadith right there's extremely reliable and then the other ones are not as reliable and

00:39:08.940 we can't confirm because they weren't from the direct people that knew him and we're around

00:39:13.020 to know which one's actually like the people that were around him at the at his time the reliable

00:39:17.040 hadith the people that were around at his time not one mentioned the age of aisha so we cannot

00:39:22.000 confirm it and it is not a reliable hadith then there's second tier third tier and these are

00:39:26.500 things that are still worth considering but it is not a part of the core essence of islam to be a

00:39:31.560 muslim you need to worship one god and one god alone that's it these are the core tenets the

00:39:36.780 rest of this this is all parts of it is why do people why do they get mad and they say she was

00:39:41.780 nine because people want to hate on islam for any reason right and this is the biggest attack

00:39:46.700 vector this is what people always will bring up because i think islam is the most attacked religion

00:39:50.780 because yeah and because it's the truth right it's after 9-11 we realize everybody in this chat

00:39:55.440 knows who did out of 9-11 they blame muslims and said muslims are terrorists and they demonize them

00:39:59.640 so much that they can have a genocide in palestine and people look it over this has been going on

00:40:03.960 forever the islamic takeover that has nothing that has nothing to do with um a nine-year-old

00:40:09.780 i was at i was responding to why people bring this up so much no i know i know you're saying

00:40:13.620 that has nothing to do with like that though once again this was not only social socially acceptable

00:40:19.080 in america 150 years ago because in delaware the age of marriage was seven and if christians are

00:40:24.340 saying this and if christians are saying this you know that mary got married at the age of 13

00:40:27.840 it's either 12 or 13 they debate about that really yep the whole yes mary mary was 13 12 or 13 years

00:40:35.080 old yep who's jessica i think that's uh i'm not sure she's a nine-year-old mary mary was 12 to 13

00:40:45.420 years old according to your logic that's not okay so if anybody's saying this oh the age of asia

00:40:49.460 then then bring up the age of mary and also if aden you're going to say that everybody under 18

00:40:55.420 is a pedophile in the age of maturity and judaism is 13 so all you guys are pedophiles too according

00:40:59.920 your logic i just said you i don't i don't i don't believe that so i don't care what

00:41:03.400 something says i believe that if someone thinks a man or a woman is a man and a man and a woman

00:41:07.920 and a woman at 13 that's a problem okay you said it's 18 i know okay what i'm saying so therefore

00:41:14.880 jews are pedophiles according to your logic you understand that right so are your people

00:41:19.720 dating nine-year-olds no there's dating dating is dating is forbidden in islam i just i just said

00:41:25.500 Dating is forbidden.

00:41:27.000 Dating is also wrong.

00:41:28.220 But I just said it's wrong.

00:41:29.720 Okay, so Judaism is wrong.

00:41:30.620 Come here then.

00:41:31.520 Kami just said you're lying.

00:41:33.040 About what?

00:41:33.700 The age of Mary?

00:41:34.360 Google it.

00:41:34.760 You just said you're lying about Mary.

00:41:36.120 Google it.

00:41:36.480 Kami, come in here.

00:41:37.660 Just come in here, Kami.

00:41:39.100 Also, Rebecca was three in Christianity, but I got it.

00:41:41.920 Oh!

00:41:42.540 Yeah, look it up.

00:41:43.520 Google it.

00:41:44.440 Bro, what the fuck am I hearing?

00:41:46.500 Yeah, this is a dark, twisted room.

00:41:47.800 Like, I'm going to be honest.

00:41:48.520 It's all sounding a little, I don't know, dude.

00:41:50.440 9, 13, what the fuck?

00:41:51.960 But again, who's what?

00:41:55.020 going on bro i'm gonna lie that's bad wait seriously so you're saying rebecca was three

00:41:59.280 yep google it who's rebecca bro rebecca was a woman in the bible i think she was married to

00:42:04.680 uh it was a king i need to google it

00:42:08.280 yeah in comedy's uh christian he's saying that it's false like he doesn't even know what he's

00:42:14.020 talking about like the age of mary was speculated between 12 and 13 this is common knowledge in

00:42:19.140 christianity yeah it's uh in genesis rebecca agreed to leave her family and marry isaac and

00:42:23.900 she was three years old but how is that even possible you can't even talk like come on that

00:42:28.400 makes because a lot of the time even even aiden because this is why this is this is why this

00:42:33.860 conversation is not doesn't make sense now because even possible i'm responding to you

00:42:39.100 even the concept of marriage was different back then a lot of the times marriage was done in order

00:42:44.360 to conjoin between two families a lot of times it wouldn't even have a consensual sex because

00:42:49.600 this was just a way to unite families

00:42:51.560 to protect women. Rebecca carried water

00:42:53.660 for 10 camels. Yeah, how could a 3-year-old do that?

00:42:56.240 I'm just being serious.

00:42:57.500 When she was older than 3.

00:43:00.480 Oh, okay. I see what you're saying.

00:43:02.140 She didn't die at 3 when she got married.

00:43:04.940 No, Neon, you smiling

00:43:05.900 at the weird parts. I don't know.

00:43:07.420 He's just seeing how your logic doesn't make sense, bro.

00:43:10.020 You're the funniest guy I ever met, bro.

00:43:13.660 You don't even know what the fuck you said.

00:43:15.940 No, Neon, you're funny.

00:43:16.860 You're funny.

00:43:17.300 You just called, bro, like five minutes ago, you just called all your people pedophiles.

00:43:21.620 No, I didn't.

00:43:22.760 Yes, you did.

00:43:24.020 How do you not understand that?

00:43:25.720 And you just did, bro.

00:43:27.320 I think I was wording it like that.

00:43:29.280 You are wording it like that.

00:43:31.440 And if anybody thinks the age of consent is 13, he's a pedophiles.

00:43:36.240 Okay, so Judaism.

00:43:37.560 So all Jews.

00:43:38.580 They don't believe that, though.

00:43:39.740 They believe it.

00:43:40.780 Bro, bar mitzvah is 13.

00:43:42.780 Why are you coping right now?

00:43:44.840 Do you think the age of consent is 13, Stigo?

00:43:47.300 I just said this literally 50 times in this conversation.

00:43:51.080 I don't know how I'm going to be able to get through to you, bro.

00:43:53.220 All right, all right, all right.

00:43:54.720 Y'all are both retarded.

00:43:55.660 I'm going to sleep.

00:43:56.280 I love y'all.

00:43:56.680 I'll see you later.

00:43:57.380 Bro, it's sounding like everybody's telling me what's actually going on.

00:43:59.420 Salamu alaikum, Neon.

00:44:00.460 I'm dead ass, bro.

00:44:01.300 All right, bye guys.

00:44:02.160 I'm going to get in here, bro.

00:44:03.220 What do you want to ask?

00:44:04.380 Wait, let me ask you guys.

00:44:05.260 I was thinking about religion, dude, but like, dude, this is insane.

00:44:07.980 Wait.

00:44:08.500 You don't want to become Muslim anymore, Cheezer?

00:44:11.480 Bro, I don't know.

00:44:13.800 I literally don't know.

00:44:14.840 What's the lead back?

00:44:16.040 saying you just said that the jews are pedos aiden saying that the muslims are pedos i never said

00:44:21.100 that i just asked people are like attacking christians now like what the fuck's going on

00:44:24.660 dude yeah i mean i never get emotional by the way any of this i never knew any of this

00:44:29.240 good combo to have i wanted to play rocket league by the way for people to get a sequel

00:44:35.160 starting religious debate like i want to play rocket league but wait get convi in here i want

00:44:39.820 to see him and sneaker he said he's in bed i'm not gonna lie this is this is convi's running i

00:44:44.080 I asked Convy and Schnaggy to both come.

00:44:46.780 They both didn't come.

00:44:48.640 So Convy's talking shit in the chat,

00:44:50.780 but he doesn't want to come and debate his points?

00:44:54.800 Oh, Convy.

00:44:56.960 Bro, they keep saying this Rebecca Girl's three.

00:44:58.680 Guys, I'm not the best person to debate.

00:45:02.600 I'm not Christian.

00:45:03.320 So I want to make that very clear.

00:45:06.020 No shit, Snickle's going to win a debate.

00:45:08.640 But it's not about, I'm just trying to tell you what's true.

00:45:12.320 The greater point is that throughout the history of the world, marriage has always been different.

00:45:18.280 So applying today's societal norms to history is a stupid way to analyze history.

00:45:23.780 Nico has a question.

00:45:24.960 Ask Nico to make it clear what's the right age of consent.

00:45:29.500 I don't know.

00:45:30.180 Are you guys incapable of hearing what I'm saying?

00:45:33.700 It's literally, I feel like I'm going insane.

00:45:35.780 You heard what I said, right?

00:45:37.980 Okay, yeah, but you also said when the girl's done with puberty and mentally ready.

00:45:40.820 what if she's what if she's mentally ready and done with puberty at 12 wait wait why would you

00:45:44.760 answer just answer it okay okay okay just answer it my point of view my point of view do you want

00:45:52.020 to hear my answer okay i think the father i think the father should be in charge of her daughter

00:45:59.500 getting married i don't think the government should be able to make the correct analysis of

00:46:03.720 when the correct age is what's better is the father decides when she's ready so when she's

00:46:08.720 physically and mentally ready to get it into a marriage that's up to the father to decide why

00:46:14.480 can't that be up to the daughter though herself what does the husband or the father have to control

00:46:18.180 it because we understand that wait wait that's so that's so dumb wait wait wait so it's up to the

00:46:24.820 dad to decide for the daughter is what you're saying yes obviously she has to she has to be

00:46:31.620 okay with it too but the father marries off the daughter aiden when a girl when a girl in a white

00:46:36.280 dress a bride walks down the alley walks down for a marriage who's walking with her

00:46:42.440 the dad her father and then she hands her off to who the husband this has been traditional

00:46:49.000 throughout the history of the world not just in islam the father is in charge and then they find

00:46:54.160 a proper husband and then says here you have to take care of her now but obviously she needs to

00:46:59.900 be consenting to it too lico said could you please answer my question yeah this is uh this is a feminist

00:47:09.080 question where it's like this specific age this specific age but but here's what happens right

00:47:15.840 if you say anything other than 18 because you know what the age of consent in hollywood is 18 so this

00:47:20.660 is where the movies happen 18 18 18 but even most states so many of them are 16 in america so many

00:47:26.260 countries in the world bosnia is 14 italy's 14 japan's well it's right it doesn't mean it's

00:47:30.200 right okay so but aiden if google said the age of consent was 15 would it be right i feel you're

00:47:34.180 going too much off the definition it's not i'm talking about what's morally correct and i'm

00:47:38.620 sorry but you're going you're basing that off the google definition okay so aiden you call me to

00:47:42.900 google that aiden if somebody if you're 17 years old 364 days and 11 59 before midnight that's

00:47:51.020 no it's not you said it's 18 right they're 17 is that pedophilia dude obviously not okay so

00:47:59.480 obviously not i don't know obviously because you said 18 is a is an adult that's not an adult

00:48:02.720 still a pedophile for another hour you're you're sighing but your logic you see how your logic

00:48:08.100 doesn't make sense everybody's gonna agree with that analogy i just whatever okay what about 17

00:48:12.920 in one day is that pedophilia then a 19 year old i met in high school no okay what about a 17 year

00:48:20.620 what about a 17 year old so you're not answering my question what about sure what about a 17 year

00:48:25.120 old and a 25 year old is that pedophilia yeah it is that's pedophilia what about 17 to 23

00:48:30.800 yep that's pedophilia what about 17 to 20 yep okay but seven okay so 17 20 is pedophilia but

00:48:37.920 17 to 19 is not pedophilia you asked me if 17 25 and 23 are pedophilia no no you just said 17 to

00:48:43.100 20 is pedophilia correct it depends where if they met in high school depends how they met okay they

00:48:46.780 didn't meet in high school she she was in high school he was out that's pedophilia okay so 17

00:48:50.780 to 20 is pedophilia but 17 and 19 isn't if they've been high did they mean high school okay so high

00:48:54.980 school it defines pedophilia now it's experiences so sneeko if i meet you and we're in the same

00:49:01.280 maturity so for example a junior and a freshman they're in school together correct they do the

00:49:06.040 same shape they go to classes they're in the same so high school defines pedophilia so i'm not saying

00:49:11.100 that i said experiences okay experiences experiences you okay so say so say they're not in high school

00:49:15.920 in 17 to 20 they had similar experiences growing up in the same hood is that is that pedophilia

00:49:21.500 they go 23 and 7 no no i bet you said 17 to 20 is pedophilia fuck that fuck that 17 to 23

00:49:28.800 no because i say yes or no you don't you explain 17 and 23 is that pedophilia it depends if there

00:49:36.960 are adults yet has she gone through puberty is she mentally ready she's 17 years old is she said

00:49:41.660 but but is she this is how you define pedophilia because the definition of 17 it doesn't matter

00:49:46.920 okay no no no let me go i got you yes or no okay 17 23 go ahead okay you don't even know aiden you

00:49:54.060 yes or no she cheeser come on cheeser cheeser you say yes i'm like the child i'm watching i'm

00:49:59.820 learning right now you're a pussy i'm a backbone i don't know cheeser is 23 and 17 yes if i was

00:50:05.520 23 i would never date a 17 year old okay what about what about 18 to 23 is that pedophilia

00:50:09.640 yeah it is no no no oh it's not okay okay so what about 17 okay wait great great point great point

00:50:16.980 great point great point so 17 300 days and a 23-year-old is that pedophilia yeah you would

00:50:23.560 get arrested though no there's romeo and juliet laws right there's romeo and juliet laws why can't

00:50:29.120 you say yes or no you're not you're not answering mine is 17 i asked you a question you you asked

00:50:36.120 question yes no but this question aiden you don't understand right this i don't understand

00:50:42.180 how you don't comprehend this that i cannot answer yes or no because you have not agreed

00:50:46.120 with the actual definition of what an adult is cheeser saw it the definition of adult is after

00:50:51.600 i got you how why are you interrupting me before why are you interrupting me the definition of

00:50:57.500 adult is physical maturity we found out physical maturity is defined by puberty therefore an adult

00:51:03.580 Has nothing to do with 18

00:51:04.640 Stego

00:51:05.680 Let's say a girl goes through puberty

00:51:07.280 16 fully grown

00:51:08.600 Maturity

00:51:09.300 60 years old

00:51:10.680 25 year old

00:51:11.680 Is that pedophilia?

00:51:15.640 No

00:51:15.900 No

00:51:18.280 It's not

00:51:19.120 Yeah

00:51:22.320 But right now

00:51:23.400 Aiden

00:51:23.760 But Jesus you saw this correct

00:51:25.240 Right now

00:51:26.280 Aiden

00:51:27.780 Listen

00:51:28.960 Listen

00:51:29.800 But Stego

00:51:30.580 You would never actually do that

00:51:31.800 I wouldn't do that

00:51:32.560 I wouldn't do that

00:51:33.560 but Aiden hold on hold on Aiden hold on but hold on before you do the thing this is this is you

00:51:38.400 realize you're echoing social programming right now no no no that's what's morally correct I would

00:51:43.240 never well I'm 25 okay if I got with a 17 year old would I be a pedophile genuinely answer that

00:51:48.580 question if I dated a 17 year old right now if I said I'm in my stream and I go date a 17 year old

00:51:53.420 am I a pedophile Erica you keep going in circles Aiden like again an adult is defined by physical

00:51:59.860 and mental maturity okay okay okay i got one for you fuck that because legally you could do it but

00:52:06.640 this is morally correct let's now we're all legals your daughter just turned 18 there's a 40 year old

00:52:12.040 man with money well you keep giving me these these ridiculous hypotheticals i this this is

00:52:16.900 the way you brought i'm not i i am not the bar mixed analogy with judaism you did the same

00:52:21.320 okay okay you don't answer i answer right okay aiden aiden listen to me for a second

00:52:27.180 the reason okay the difference between your innocuous hypotheticals about different ages

00:52:31.580 you said 17 to 20 is pedophilia you said that the reason that i'm doing it and i'm bringing up the

00:52:36.360 fact that you now think that all jews are pedophiles because it has to be 18 is because you

00:52:40.680 have you have defined 18 based off of your own definition in your head you looked at the google

00:52:46.340 definition this is why i said fuck that and i asked you a definition for me right right right

00:52:50.120 google shit right now let's just do this you said fuck google so okay aiden can you make up

00:52:54.500 definitions of words on your own no okay you just did you're logically not even following anything

00:53:00.480 based off of what you only made up in your head i just said i just said if a girl fully went through

00:53:04.340 puberty okay maturity and she went through it at 17 and you keep going you're you're circling right

00:53:10.100 now you said no to there being nothing wrong with that it's a 17 and 25 you know that's wrong you

00:53:15.400 just want to be correct paperly motherfucker that's wrong i don't know what religion the

00:53:20.340 The majority, Aiden, the majority of that relationship is not going to be, it's not going to make sense because it's not accepted in society right now.

00:53:27.480 And so I wouldn't encourage that.

00:53:28.460 I don't want people to do that.

00:53:29.780 It's wrong.

00:53:30.700 Aiden, stop.

00:53:32.120 You need to escape the matrix for a second.

00:53:33.960 You're blocked by social programming.

00:53:35.520 You're not hearing me.

00:53:36.360 Listen for a second.

00:53:37.160 Okay, before you interrupt, just follow this logic for a second.

00:53:40.300 Okay?

00:53:40.780 Can you do that?

00:53:41.980 Okay.

00:53:42.280 Sure.

00:53:42.760 All right.

00:53:44.000 You cannot make up definitions of your words in your own head, correct?

00:53:47.660 Yeah, that's true.

00:53:48.460 You just did.

00:53:48.980 therefore we are having a conversation based off of a false pretense you cannot make up definitions

00:53:54.680 where do we get definitions of words from the dictionary okay so let's follow that the dictionary

00:54:01.320 and the word means an adult is defined by physical maturity again we looked up how physical maturity

00:54:07.340 is defined it's by puberty so let's use definitions of words because do you believe aiden that words

00:54:12.760 have meaning and that we should speak logically yeah but i believe in morals as well okay where

00:54:17.280 Okay, great, great, great, great point.

00:54:18.980 This is the second line of questioning.

00:54:20.680 Where does morality come from?

00:54:23.120 It depends.

00:54:23.740 I guess everyone has self-beliefs,

00:54:25.120 but at the same time,

00:54:26.300 I think if me, you, and Cheezer were in a room,

00:54:28.500 it would feel morally incorrect

00:54:29.640 for us to ever engage with a 17-year-old.

00:54:31.780 Can we all agree?

00:54:32.460 Okay.

00:54:35.500 You're looping right now.

00:54:36.360 I gave you an example.

00:54:37.140 But how?

00:54:37.560 I gave you an example.

00:54:38.560 I gave you an example.

00:54:40.720 Aiden, do you understand?

00:54:41.780 Do you understand?

00:54:42.560 If we all were to engage with a 17-year-old.

00:54:45.340 We all agree.

00:54:46.120 I agree.

00:54:46.680 I agree with that

00:54:48.240 You want to know why?

00:54:49.200 Because people should only be in relationships once they're married

00:54:51.940 That's my belief system

00:54:53.140 So okay, so hold on a second

00:54:55.300 So if you are married to a 17 year old

00:54:57.240 Do you think that's okay?

00:55:00.140 I don't want to be married to a 17 year old

00:55:02.540 I don't think that's socially

00:55:04.280 I don't think that that's socially

00:55:05.740 You are a really good debater

00:55:07.400 Because you die, you're like a frog

00:55:09.240 You guys are literally going in circles

00:55:10.660 I'm not going in circles

00:55:12.640 Every time I try to get to the next level, he stops

00:55:14.820 The second line of question

00:55:15.980 it's just dodged nico it's not dodging listen i know you're an amazing debater i always give

00:55:22.500 your flowers for off stream you know i do let's stop yes or no out of respect for the audience

00:55:27.020 let's stop circling and doing the same argument over and over again about the ages this is this

00:55:30.360 is a waste of time and you have a knowledge that you are not even following the definition of the

00:55:33.940 word you made up your own word okay you're right the second line of questioning so now that just

00:55:38.260 frames that whole conversation as a waste of time because you made this up in your head

00:55:41.000 second line frog sorry cheeser that's a chalice second line of questioning aiden like what the

00:55:46.340 where do morals come from beliefs intuition intuition okay so if i intuitively intuitively

00:55:54.820 believe that i can go and rape kids on an epstein island is that is that correct no no it's not so

00:56:00.240 therefore morals cannot come from people humans don't define morals do they i agree okay therefore

00:56:05.960 morals can't come from people where do they come from intuition god no no no intuition you just

00:56:12.200 you already ruled that out so it comes from god so are you saying what morals like where does

00:56:17.000 morale who created morality who defines morality actually i would say society as well society

00:56:21.420 can okay society said that seven-year-olds can get married in delaware in 1870 so therefore it

00:56:26.840 was it was correct morally no no no stop stop looping at it you just looped stop it you said

00:56:32.220 society determines it it was socially acceptable for seven-year-olds to get married in delaware

00:56:36.040 in 1870 as you saw okay is that right or wrong it's it's still wrong okay so therefore

00:56:43.680 our morals defined by society hayden that's wrong okay you know i'm sorry what are morals

00:56:50.580 defined by society okay talk about slavery then slavery was normal right i don't think it was

00:56:55.360 right yeah therefore society can't determine morality because slavery is wrong i agree okay

00:56:59.380 come from god but but but again it's like great points no no no no no you said you said you were

00:57:06.840 going to okay fair fair so where does morality come from last year lico is a very very good

00:57:11.760 i'm not i'm not even i'm not debating i'm just trying to get you to understand something and

00:57:14.700 you forced no no you forced like it's like it's like um because we're we have to debate we can't

00:57:20.800 have we can't have a conversation without clear definitions this is a stupid conversation without

00:57:25.540 defining things i'm not going to argue with stuff you made up in your head where does morality come

00:57:29.920 from aiden god intuition not can come from society but that's kind of an opinion where does intuition

00:57:37.900 come from where where does sorry where does morality come from it's an opinion but i think

00:57:42.040 if i were to have me you and snico again snico's a christian or sorry you're looping you're looping

00:57:48.820 i'm not looping if again again she's a christian she's a christian i'm a jew i'm not really like

00:57:56.920 that religious you know i'm not and i would say you're religious and you're a muslim if we were

00:58:00.940 all in a room with a 17 year old nobody would engage not because you're not married with her

00:58:03.920 sneaker because that's a 17 year old you're 27 that's why it's not because you're married with

00:58:07.720 this is you keep bro you're going in circles on it i hope you see it just type one in the chat

00:58:12.060 can you guys see here i'm looping am i the only one okay fair i am looping let's let's let's

00:58:16.320 continue this it's a useless conversation no it's not you're ignoring morale ignoring my

00:58:21.280 you're ignoring my i'm not ignoring it i've answered it i've answered it so many times

00:58:25.380 yeah you're wrong you said you said yeah you said it's not okay you said it's not

00:58:28.740 okay aiden therefore okay i'll go again you just said i'm wrong correct

00:58:33.380 yeah you are wrong okay said yeah okay right and wrong the this comes from morality correct

00:58:39.320 what which does okay right and wrong is determined by morality this is morality

00:58:45.520 correct

00:58:46.160 this is not a trick question bro

00:58:49.840 just answer

00:58:51.140 be honest with your answer

00:58:52.900 right and wrong

00:58:54.080 this is morality

00:58:55.040 this is how morality is defined

00:58:56.160 right

00:58:57.180 why are you not answering the question bro

00:59:00.900 because I don't understand what you're trying to do

00:59:03.000 I'm not trying to do anything

00:59:04.200 I'm not trying to trick you brother

00:59:05.280 how come I can say

00:59:07.760 Aiden Aiden Aiden Aiden Aiden

00:59:09.620 because I want

00:59:11.360 you just said I'm wrong

00:59:14.100 you just said I'm wrong

00:59:15.260 right for when i answer that question all right you said i'm wrong so in order to define right

00:59:21.180 and wrong we need to find out where morality comes from we need to find clear definitions

00:59:26.100 there we go so where does morality come from because you called me wrong i want to see what

00:59:31.060 you believe in where does morality you you define it then you define it you already know what i

00:59:36.440 believe in i believe morality comes from god no no no i'm saying define what you're asking me to

00:59:41.460 define morality where does bro it's a simple it's not a trick i'm asking you what stop thinking

00:59:48.560 that aiden something this is a debate something is a debate before we can have a debate but it

00:59:52.460 is it is for you it is aiden before we if you want to have a debate we can but i'm trying to

00:59:58.500 make clear definitions and like there's so much i have a question i have a question so

01:00:01.800 just just tell me where morality comes from bro just answer the question just answer the question

01:00:08.160 where does morality come from this is not a trick sneaker you're a very good twister oh my god

01:00:12.320 this is not i'm not doing magic on you where does morality come from i just told you we're

01:00:18.020 going in service no no no no then you said intuition but you also said it doesn't then

01:00:20.880 you said society then you said it doesn't so what system can define morality properly

01:00:25.460 i think it's a combination i don't think it's one right and i don't think it's one right thing

01:00:29.800 you could say god but again like i'm jewish i don't think that 13 is morality to right a woman

01:00:36.040 becomes a woman you can i don't know i don't so so let's rule out society and let's rule out

01:00:40.340 intuition gone it could be wrong you have to have objective morality it has to be fact it can't

01:00:44.640 religion where does morality come from thank you cheeser where does it come from aiden why are you

01:00:49.780 googling this just it's not a trap bro i'm not i was looking what cheeser's doing he's playing

01:00:53.540 minecraft he's autistic it's okay all right can you answer or do we could just end this conversation

01:01:00.000 if you don't want to answer bro all right let's just end the comment we're going in circles we're

01:01:03.400 not going in circles i swear though we're talking about aiden we are getting somewhere and you can't

01:01:07.420 answer the question bro aiden the answer is morality comes from god it's a simple it's a

01:01:12.220 simple question right don't you believe in that you believe in god right yeah aiden fold it i'll

01:01:17.420 fold it aiden do you believe in god aiden do you believe in god uh yeah i do okay i do believe

01:01:25.780 there's a guy that's why i came questioning i don't know what to believe in because there's

01:01:29.040 multiple religions so i want to know what's right ignore that don't don't think about religion

01:01:33.200 for a second you believe that god god created the universe and all the people right

01:01:36.100 uh yeah i do do you believe god created everything i believe god created yeah everything okay

01:01:42.560 therefore god created morality yeah okay therefore saying 18 is right and wrong doesn't come from god

01:01:49.860 that's socially that's a social construct we can't follow social construct because at a time

01:01:54.960 in 1870 delaware seven-year-olds can get married and that's wrong right so we can't follow society's

01:02:01.100 logic we have to follow what comes from god and god alone the reason that there's problems in the

01:02:04.680 world is when people fall off and think they make up their own definitions of right and wrong that's

01:02:09.620 why everything in the world bad is happening we need to be clear about what is right and wrong

01:02:13.900 it can only come from god you want to use the definition because you got mad at me when i was

01:02:17.720 making my own words yes can you google where morality comes from on the can you google that

01:02:21.860 please i'll google it with you where does morality come from

01:02:25.620 do you want to read it or i'll read it good it's a combination i was right okay

01:02:32.580 so morality emerges from a combination of biological evolution social interaction and

01:02:36.580 cognitive reasoning cognitive thank you okay it is rooted in it is rooted in

01:02:43.660 yo bro this guy's retarded go on what's going on about you right now did you just lag are you

01:02:51.100 nothing no no no it's rooted in in stuck what is that word

01:02:55.580 it emerged right there it emerged as a survival mechanism promoting cooperation empathy and

01:03:04.380 altruism within groups oh stick away my bad serious hold on just think oh you you you read

01:03:09.500 the definition go ahead from the top okay the better one is where does objective morality no

01:03:13.700 no no no no no no no no no no no no i asked you to give me the definition of morality

01:03:21.080 right don't change that we both agree no no no no no because you said he ate it i can't i can't

01:03:26.640 change things you can't either sure so just so read google read the dictionary okay look sure

01:03:31.300 sure i misspoke objective morality not social morality morality comes from objective morality

01:03:39.180 morality that waivers is literally not morality because if it can change that it's not based off

01:03:44.000 of anything law needs to come from objective morality that's the correct thing to google

01:03:47.280 do you want to google objective morality no i want to gamble okay

01:03:52.500 dude i swear you guys have been talking about this for literally an hour and a half

01:03:58.160 hey you know i love you robo come on we're like you know i know you want to be right

01:04:03.200 you're very good with your words but that's that you guys have to have an outcome to this debate

01:04:07.180 why we're wasting time in this conversation is that you think that this is about i'm not trying

01:04:13.100 to battle you now i know i'm really that's not my intention like i just want to explain things

01:04:18.900 logically and i wasn't trying to start it i was asking it because travel like was a leash sorry

01:04:23.300 i knew that as soon as you start talking about muhammad peace be upon him they'll say this

01:04:27.800 because they want to ignore the truth people don't they don't like the truth so is that a

01:04:32.200 made-up thing though is that like literally like a rumor the nine-year-old thing bro

01:04:34.760 like they would have just i've explained it like five times in this conversation and again like

01:04:39.080 it's just I'm like getting brain rot talking to you guys because I said this five times and it's

01:04:43.380 like how many times do I have to explain the same thing over and over again. Sniggle you're very good

01:04:47.200 you're very good. But Sniggle you know you're getting a lot better. You used to like

01:04:52.740 you know who I want to see debate this with you? Nick Fuentes. If you and Nick debate this shit

01:04:57.480 I could watch this. Before we end this can I show you a clip from Nick Fuentes?

01:05:03.060 Because we agree about this. Sure. We have the same point of view. Let me see. Sure.

01:05:06.160 uh someone said to me where he's talking about pedophilia and agraphic um or nick agrees with

01:05:12.680 stico oh he does because you know that's easy critical thinking is hard i know that i know i

01:05:17.040 think is the clip here i'll share my screen if you can hear all right let me see your share screen

01:05:20.640 yeah because you know that's easy critical thinking is hard is this the correct clip uh

01:05:27.620 i think this might be a hit piece clip i'm trying to find it oh he is epstein and his clients raped

01:05:31.700 the girls daily mail reports girls as young as 11 therapists have counseled epstein victims say

01:05:35.340 under the age of 10.

01:05:36.200 Whitney Webb's book

01:05:36.720 says young is 12.

01:05:37.620 Clinton said he liked them young.

01:05:38.780 Epstein purchased

01:05:39.240 12-year-old triplets

01:05:39.900 from France as a birthday

01:05:40.580 present to himself

01:05:41.180 just because men

01:05:41.980 in the middle ages

01:05:42.420 fuck preteens

01:05:42.900 in 11 to 14 year.

01:05:44.060 That's all fake.

01:05:45.620 Just Google it.

01:05:47.380 Epstein was charged.

01:05:48.900 He was convicted

01:05:49.880 and the youngest victims

01:05:51.360 are 14.

01:05:51.960 That is the only thing

01:05:52.540 that can be proven by law.

01:05:53.640 I disagree.

01:05:54.180 I think Epstein was a pedophile

01:05:55.260 but not all the victims

01:05:56.780 have been revealed.

01:05:57.740 You want to know how I know

01:05:58.500 you're a complete fucking idiot?

01:05:59.620 Because that story

01:06:00.460 about 12-year-old triplets

01:06:01.480 has not been corroborated

01:06:02.820 by anybody.

01:06:04.060 That's how I know

01:06:04.540 you're a complete idiot

01:06:05.220 and you don't care about the truth.

01:06:06.560 If you care about the truth,

01:06:07.860 you do the research.

01:06:09.120 Candace Owens tweeted that.

01:06:10.000 You know what I did?

01:06:10.520 I did the research.

01:06:11.260 Do you know where that claim comes from?

01:06:13.260 The claim about he was gifted 12-year-old triplets,

01:06:15.620 that comes from Virginia Giuffre.

01:06:17.220 She is a serial liar.

01:06:18.900 If you look into it,

01:06:19.960 she makes that stuff up for a living.

01:06:22.080 What do I mean by for a living?

01:06:23.400 She has made tens of millions of dollars.

01:06:25.500 You said you disagree,

01:06:27.500 but now you said-

01:06:28.060 No, no, I disagree with the take

01:06:29.380 about Epstein being a pedophile.

01:06:30.520 He doesn't think Epstein was a pedophile.

01:06:31.720 I do.

01:06:32.560 But a lot of this stuff hasn't been confirmed yet.

01:06:34.100 he's still trying to get all the evidence of course i've seen the pedophile right he does he

01:06:38.100 doesn't think so but he's looking at the age he doesn't think why does he think so he's gonna

01:06:43.320 explain from people that she has made wild accusations about it has been proven that she

01:06:47.420 is a liar and not reliable and she makes up these exaggerated claims because believe it or not that's

01:06:51.580 an industry are we now going to go full feminist and full woke and say that you got to believe all

01:06:55.520 women this is why women cannot talk about this issue because you don't care about the truth

01:07:00.040 you hear a sensational claim and you want to just get that out there you didn't even do a cursory

01:07:05.060 search into the claim that you're making so what does that say about you this might not be the

01:07:09.820 correct one uh oh here it is yeah this is what i want here it is they were technically not legal

01:07:14.940 big big difference in my opinion i know that's a controversial take go back go back go back go back

01:07:19.940 this whole pedo thing it's like isn't really pedophilia i don't want to be the one that has

01:07:24.320 to say it uh but i guess i'm being forced to say it it's not really pedophilia okay they weren't

01:07:29.680 trafficking five-year-olds it was like they were technically not legal big big difference in my

01:07:34.340 opinion i know that's a controversial take but that's not really the issue there and if he's

01:07:39.260 right about the ages if many of them were 14 15 16 i'm tripping though stingo he's tripping he's

01:07:44.040 tripping on that bro okay you know he's tripping yeah stingo listen it was high scores on the

01:07:48.160 island right that's no better okay high schoolers brother the definition of adult is somebody who's

01:07:53.300 oh my fucking god i can't the definite aiden aiden aiden again stop this is like stupid

01:07:59.620 woke programming that you're not listening to me for a second i think epstein was a pedophile

01:08:03.220 i disagree with him on that epstein was a pedophile second yeah look

01:08:08.940 pedophilia is the act of being attracted to children which i think epstein was

01:08:15.280 he's saying that the victims were 14 15 16 and so if they reach the physical age of maturity

01:08:20.660 He's saying that's not pedophilia.

01:08:22.240 You understand?

01:08:22.780 He's actually following the legal definition of what an adult is.

01:08:26.620 He's following the dictionary definition.

01:08:28.180 The word adult means physical maturity.

01:08:30.440 That's the difference.

01:08:31.700 I think Epstein was a pedophile, 100%.

01:08:33.980 100% what he was doing was disgusting.

01:08:37.800 I think it was into a lot of this hedonistic thing.

01:08:40.140 I think they did rituals.

01:08:41.200 I do believe in all that.

01:08:42.060 I think the important issue is Israel, but he disagrees about that.

01:08:45.820 Okay.

01:08:46.260 the issue is not that they were barely legal teens which is what it is it's horrendous it's awful

01:08:52.040 it's pedophilia okay relax um no the issue is that epstein is a jewish spy probably working

01:08:57.180 with israel that is the main issue that's the dilemma there he's working with israeli intelligence

01:09:00.760 um this whole dude i'll be honest it's not it's not really israel here it's just this guy

01:09:07.040 okay maybe he was working for israel maybe he is i don't know whatever

01:09:10.200 i'm a point i'm just trying to make to you bro is that he was a pedophile for sure i know you

01:09:15.620 agree with me on that so there's no debating on that well i mean again you ran around in circles

01:09:19.780 about the definition i think you are right i got to do my own research i think you're right about

01:09:24.740 the israel thing but i'm just saying the main idea i'm trying to make is no abcimo was a pedophile

01:09:28.380 100 yeah there's no doubt in my mind about that you know there's no doubt i have a lot of emails

01:09:34.140 even saying at all that he's not because he's saying a lot a lot a lot of the victims uh because

01:09:39.080 he's saying a lot of the victims were just barely under the age of 18 right but a lot of them did

01:09:43.860 a lot of the victims killed themselves a lot of the victims wound up missing they were probably

01:09:48.680 afraid to come out a lot of them they probably got murdered right so that's crazy yeah so we

01:09:52.620 can't so i'm not of that belief i 100 think i've seen was a pedophile but what he's talking about

01:09:57.600 here was the victims that went public a lot of them were 15 16 17 which most times does not

01:10:02.480 define pedophilia words have meanings for a reason yeah i'm gonna be honest bro i'm done i'm checking

01:10:11.060 now what is this cheeser clip oh my fucking god what the fuck what what yeah the fbi said you

01:10:23.940 work from a side i'm literally on minecraft what's this motherfucker watching wait cheeser

01:10:27.840 you were 22 and kaylin was 15 really dude you're playing retarded it's lydia you're a two-year

01:10:34.980 you up. Thank you, Kevin, for the gifted

01:10:37.020 boom. Well, if you were 19 and

01:10:38.940 she was 17, you're a pedo, according to Aiden.

01:10:41.300 I never said that. I asked you a question,

01:10:43.080 Sneeko, and there's a clip. I can pull it up right now. Somebody

01:10:44.800 gave me the clip where I said, Sneeko,

01:10:46.640 25 and 17, and you said no.

01:10:48.840 Well, it might be a God seed. Okay.

01:10:50.840 So I can pull that clip. You also said...

01:10:52.680 You can pull a clip. Well, I'm not afraid of, like, this stupid

01:10:54.920 cancel culture shit. It's because it's...

01:10:56.920 You can rock. Okay. Well, again,

01:10:59.100 you said that... So how old is an adult,

01:11:01.000 Aiden? Let's see if you learn anything.

01:11:02.780 I can't. Holy fuck, dude.

01:11:04.420 and i asked you to define it i asked you to find just like you didn't you changed your you changed

01:11:08.740 your word no i said i misspoke i said i misspoke and i admit that if you're not okay if you're not

01:11:12.600 willing to admit that you miss i should have said objective morality not morality because morality

01:11:16.440 waivers objective morality is what's important not societal morality that's bullshit it's not

01:11:21.840 bullshit that's the definition of morality sunico but objective morality is what defines right and

01:11:26.760 wrong society yeah i i understand but that's still morality if you you're saying objective morality

01:11:32.340 that's okay but what is important is what's most important which is objective morality right and

01:11:37.300 that's what i mean do you see what you're doing though morality right you're saying objective

01:11:42.140 morality it's like being specific right you're being specific correct yes so i'm asking you if

01:11:47.260 i'm not asking you to be specific just morality and my my greater point to look at the bigger

01:11:51.900 picture is where do we get right from wrong we get right from wrong from objective morality

01:11:56.340 something that doesn't change something that always remains the same can i ask you a question

01:12:00.740 is objective morality the only form of morality that's the most important no no but is that the

01:12:06.160 only form of morality i think so but is that i think that's my definition by definition no

01:12:12.220 because it can change but but also by definition you see why this why this definition doesn't make

01:12:16.440 sense because can something objective change no well i mean this water is always water is always

01:12:25.420 wet the sky is always blue grass is always green this is objective right we are here we are alive

01:12:31.180 and then we're dead like these things breathing you're alive not breathing you're dead this is

01:12:34.400 what is objectively defined it cannot change if something can change if now you're dead when

01:12:38.760 you're breathing and it changed then it doesn't no longer is anything we should follow objective

01:12:43.420 is things that are unwavering unchanging so so sense objective never changes right you're saying

01:12:48.920 right objective morality should yes should not change so what's the what's the objective morality

01:12:54.920 age of consent do you hear you do you hear yourself or no like you got to be trolling

01:13:03.340 me at this point right i mean dude i just asked you a question

01:13:06.960 it's objective it doesn't change right so what is it the objective okay then then it should be

01:13:16.500 25 scientifically here here's the clip if people want it i think the objective age of consent that

01:13:23.660 should never change would be 25 because that's when you could guarantee almost scientifically

01:13:28.700 not even really because even then people can mentally mature after but 25 is when people

01:13:33.520 that's fair their frontal cortex is developed and they're also through puberty that'd be sneak

01:13:38.820 out thank you that's fair yeah again you're do you see do you see yourself looping or no like

01:13:45.180 Am I going insane?

01:13:46.400 Yeah, yeah, of course.

01:13:47.040 But do you see how you –

01:13:48.840 Okay, so you just said the frontal 25, this, this, this.

01:13:53.860 You just said what you said.

01:13:54.920 So why did you say a 25-year-old could date a 17-year-old?

01:13:58.520 I don't think people should date.

01:13:59.920 I didn't say that.

01:14:01.540 I think dating is wrong, Aiden.

01:14:04.580 Okay, sorry.

01:14:05.460 Yeah, and that's just a stupid clip farm because you know what's going to happen.

01:14:08.520 People are going to clip it up.

01:14:09.400 Stiegel, the 17-year-old, that's going to be the clip.

01:14:11.760 but this is but this stuff is retarded goyslop because it's a non-conversation

01:14:19.500 you're not you're not biblically following it one-to-one you date correct you're not married

01:14:27.960 i am not perfect like i know that i know but i don't i don't i'm not dating i'm sad i'm on

01:14:34.820 seamer attention i'm on seamer attention okay that's fine why do you think i've been so locked

01:14:39.280 in i've been live for like 12 hours today it's because i have so much girls thank you

01:14:42.720 what wait what did you say cheezer what i got a sob that's his name what his name is teenage girls

01:14:50.960 i swear to god uh all right well chat you ready for that clip to be all over x tomorrow

01:14:59.280 but i like what you say about the frontal core being developed at 25 because that's a scientific

01:15:04.620 fact do we agree well that's not even a pure fact some people could develop at 30 years old

01:15:08.600 and even though don't you know a lot of like uh 30 year olds that act to the same level

01:15:12.600 maturities like 18 year old girls i do they're still dancing on tiktok and doing the exact same

01:15:16.480 shit yeah it's more yeah it's more about your upbringing who you are like that's a better

01:15:21.200 definition as if somebody's ready you have to look at the person it's a case-by-case thing

01:15:25.080 i agree i agree exactly it's a case-by-case thing therefore meaning fuck delaware fuck all these

01:15:31.540 other places saying it's 14 12 and also fuck the fuck the current system that's saying that 18 is

01:15:35.760 the only measurement all right i'm going to that but right now the reason eight and i think you're

01:15:41.220 seeing the logical flaw here but you're not being truthful because you don't want to get canceled

01:15:44.660 and that's bullshit free yourself from the matrix escape the matrix bro expect you chat you see it

01:15:50.300 the reason he's being logically inconsistent is because he doesn't want to get canceled that's

01:15:53.600 bullshit no i just think morally i don't give a fuck what a thing says on the internet i don't

01:15:57.760 care what who's trying to i think that um if you're not 18 years old you should not be dating

01:16:01.940 yeah okay all right dude you keep pushing going slot great to see you guys bro okay great to see

01:16:07.220 talk soon i know arl is going to be mad at me but i don't think i started it i don't think i did

01:16:11.760 no i was gently asking questions and the chat was bringing up about alicia it's it's asia

01:16:16.780 sorry do you do you want to hear something about asia before i leave sure do you know she's one

01:16:21.900 of the most respected women in islam she was an extremely talented writer she wrote down the

01:16:26.380 majority of hadith because she was a direct source she was married my chat my whole chat is saying

01:16:30.360 sneaker one sorry to interrupt you so they're probably mad at me but this is stupid to even

01:16:35.480 it's not i'm not trying to be in here like battling against you i'm not that i'm just here

01:16:40.100 trying to tell you the truth yeah you know i'm not i'm not here i'm not trying to get one up on

01:16:45.280 you i really i don't i don't see it that's no i know i value as the aid and the reason i'm

01:16:48.680 entertaining this conversation i value as a brother and i want the best for you and i feel

01:16:52.260 well i know that i have the truth and i want you to know the truth and so that's why i just want

01:16:56.540 the best for you and i know bro you're just think i love you know i love you bro and that's the only

01:17:00.780 reason that i want to have this conversation so i'll take the time and energy same thing here man

01:17:04.760 you know we're going back and forth i love you too bro i want the best for you and if you guys

01:17:09.260 have questions off stream you want to talk about this stuff i'm my phone number is always here and

01:17:13.520 i okay you know want to be informational about it yeah i'm gonna hit you off stream so we can

01:17:17.840 talk about this stuff bro yeah i'm sure you are i think you will you look a lot like we're fat

01:17:25.260 right now all right guys be safe talk soon all right see you guys

SHNEAKO - February 16, 2026

SNEAKO & Adin Ross Get In A HEATED Religious Debate

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