On this episode of the podcast, the boys discuss the recent events in the Middle East, including the Israeli invasion of South Lebanon, the current state of the country, and the current political climate. Also, the guys discuss the controversial topic of religion and its role in our society.
00:24:01.760They're all over New York and they say they reject Zionism.
00:24:04.660They say that they just want to follow God's message.
00:24:08.740rabbinical judaism replaced it so now if you want to convert to the majority of judaism now
00:24:13.440shabad lubovitch being a very influential sect you need to go to rabbi court these are the
00:24:18.180authority members to become muslim you just say la ilaha illallah muhammad rasulullah that's it0.94
00:24:22.560you just have to connect the god rabbinical judaism replaced it so much of the jews that0.92
00:24:27.800pretend to be jewish now they don't even follow the torah they replace the talmud was created0.87
00:24:32.3001500 years after the torah you have the kabbalah you have these other books that were not of god0.80
00:24:37.580The Talmud is debates between the rabbis and God. The rabbis wrote this. What I'm saying is so much of Judaism today is not authentic Judaism and they have replaced it and they made the rabbis the authority. The Muslims that you're talking about, like a lot of people criticize the Arab states for siding with Israel. These leaders, they're criticized all the time by Muslim people and they are not representatives of the religion. A lot of this is really wrong.
00:25:01.680yeah i mean again we're just kind of going in circles on like the whole how someone views
00:25:12.980their specific religion like i'm a christian uh you know i'd like to say that i i grew up catholic
00:25:19.860i don't know in super detail everything about religion but i know that like the golden rule
00:25:27.320and what the most important thing to me seems to be is treat other people as you like to be treated
00:25:31.020right like yeah and i and i and it's simple to me but there's a lot of people that take it to
00:25:36.220a much farther extent that could read into certain things about their religion to empower
00:25:42.100them in a certain direction but the point is not everyone does that like and that's why i tend to
00:25:47.240get like sort of burnt out and even conversation about religion is because all religions have used
00:25:52.920religion to create death and destruction in the name of religion like all of them have done this1.00
00:26:00.180in different ways in different time periods they've all done how the muslims done that1.00
00:26:03.700i don't know enough about the muslims so i'll be honest with you on that one
00:26:08.860you just made a blank statement about that that it's not true about islam
00:26:13.000yeah well so what okay i guess i can't draw direct like like history on it but would you
00:26:19.380would you tell me that and if you know about this better than i do there's at no point
00:26:22.800throughout the history of the muslim sort of religion that they used it to further their0.97
00:26:27.960shit in any area against anyone else the ottoman empire type shit like no it's never happened0.99
00:26:33.380islam has expanded islam has spread around but the idea of warfare is in defense but we have0.99
00:26:40.180yeah the muslims did claim the holy land but it was not cruel like we have the rules of war for
00:26:47.420example you're not supposed to kill children you're not supposed to kill innocent civilians0.91
00:26:50.100you're not supposed to you're only supposed to attack the combatants military objectives you
00:26:55.340don't kill children the way we're seeing israel kill children today yeah i'm again i wasn't i've0.98
00:27:02.300not been in history i've not i'm fucking 37 years thought to be 37 36 years old and like i've not0.99
00:27:08.740seen it all but do you think at some point that people have weaponized it in a way and they've0.93
00:27:13.560done the things they're not supposed to do but in the name of yeah furthering what was uh what we0.63
00:27:20.160heard from propaganda for years yeah that's a good point like isis and al-qaeda right islamic
00:27:24.020terrorists we've heard for the past 20 years we learned that a lot of these groups like isis for0.82
00:27:28.780example they attacked all over the middle east in the name of islam they were spreading jihad
00:27:31.760they were beheading people on camera they never attacked israel we found out later that these
00:27:35.360were funded and they were given weapons by cia and massad that these were funded operations
00:27:40.600to destabilize the middle east that they said that they are religious fanatics when in fact
00:27:46.040they were just funded by the american empire oh yeah i've heard i've heard of this i'm not even
00:27:52.420talking necessarily in most recent history i'm just saying in the course of human history
00:27:56.360do you think it's fair to say that every religion has used their religion in some sort of form to
00:28:01.540like take from other people take more land or take more whatever power yes everybody like people
00:28:10.380aren't perfect i'm not justifying it to be clear i'm not saying it's been just and it's right i'm
00:28:14.820just saying like that's what i was trying to say was in general was the idea of religion to me is
00:28:19.220just kind of yeah every religion every every religion has extremists but that is not representative
00:28:25.560of the religion as a whole the same thing with judaism that's the point yeah and that's exactly
00:28:29.860my point right so with judaism i'll make a comparison go ahead no that's i'm just saying
00:28:35.380when we talk about all these things like i i know like you can't be fair to everyone but i'm trying
00:28:39.920to be fair in this broader sense that like there's bad people everywhere and i'm not that that's not0.89
00:28:44.980unjustifying the bad that some people are doing currently by any means it's fucking it's it's too0.83
00:28:50.200obvious too terrible at this point but like that's my my beef with religion is that to me it seemed0.90
00:28:57.660like one of the first sort of things that humans could use to leverage to be like this should be
00:29:02.880mine because of this book or because that book or this said that or i read this description i
00:29:07.860interpret it this way and so i should be able to do this like this right my uh separation is that
00:29:15.380when it's used to only benefit one group of people rather than all of humanity islam is for all of
00:29:21.240humanity the last speech prophet muhammad peace be upon him he gave he said that no arab is superior
00:29:26.320to a non-arab he made sure to specify that this is not an arab religion in fact i told you yesterday
00:29:30.880you were surprised to hear the most muslim country in the world is indonesia an asian country they
00:29:36.100think they push it that it's a brown religion yeah it's an asian religion based off of population
00:29:40.820my problem is when it's you like people will say christianity is a white religion christianity is
00:29:45.840a european religion when they use it to only benefit one people that's when it's corrupted0.78
00:29:49.880and wrong islam has never has not been specific to a race it's for all of humanity that's a0.53
00:29:55.320separation and i like how you brought up uh i grew up catholic too the pope said some very positive
00:30:00.420things here i want to play that in a second and my belief is when it comes to the the chosen people
00:30:05.780ideology. I think that that's misinterpreted. I think that the Jews were chosen to spread the
00:30:10.720message of God and they misinterpreted that and believe that chosen meant that they were the
00:30:15.260superior people. I think that they believed, okay, we were sent the message of God. We're
00:30:21.460facing all these trials and tribulations. We're getting kicked out. They're destroying our
00:30:24.440temples. What's going on? And they started to reject. And that's when rabbinical Judaism
00:30:27.720replaced it. What was supposed to be said was that these were the chosen people to get the word
00:30:32.860and they were supposed to evangelize it and said they were confused and thought that it was just
00:30:36.880for them that's how you get the state of israel today that's why you have racial supremacy
00:30:40.940misunderstanding what chosen was yeah i don't know i don't know enough about the scriptures
00:30:47.620or what it was said verse not said so i can't really even speak directly to that well what do
00:30:51.420you think i just know the idea i just know the idea of thinking that you're chosen i mean just
00:30:57.840if we talk about it in the general sense if i believed i was a chosen person of god
00:31:01.980then that in and of itself would then wouldn't that make me believe that i'm better than other
00:31:09.040people if they were not of the chosen people like that's kind of whether not knowing anything about
00:31:14.720it if someone told me they were chosen that means they probably likely believe that yeah they're
00:31:19.320they probably believe they're better than me or at some sort of higher playing field than i am if
00:31:23.260i'm not of the same people the difference islam was arab arabic was the chosen language to write
00:31:29.640the quran and the arabs were the one well muhammad was arab peace be upon him but he never pushed
00:31:34.820that supremacy he just understood that it was this was chosen for me but i'm supposed to spread it
00:31:38.940there was no sort of racial hierarchy that's the major difference that i find between the
00:31:44.000monotheistic religions of judaism and islam do you want to did you see this pope video yet
00:31:47.660no okay i want to i want to see this hopefully the audio is good0.70
00:31:52.160in english i can't hear shit i would say um once again what i said you can't hear anything i got0.55
00:32:00.400right again you can't sorry chat yeah play it now yeah sorry chat would be it would be message on0.95
00:32:06.160sunday asking all people of goodwill to search always for peace and not violence to reject war
00:32:15.520especially a war which many people have said is an unjust war, which is continuing to escalate and which is not resolving anything.
00:32:28.180In fact, we have a worldwide economic crisis, energy crisis, a situation in the Middle East of great instability,
00:32:36.960which is only provoking more hatred throughout the world.
00:32:39.860So come back to the table. Let's talk. Let's look for solutions in a peaceful way.
00:32:45.520And let's remember especially the innocent, children, the elderly, the sick,
00:32:51.980so many people who have already become or will become victims of this continued warfare.
00:32:59.140And to remind all that attacks on civilian infrastructure is against international law,
00:33:06.140but that it is also a sign of the hatred, the division, the destruction that the human being is capable of.
00:33:14.480And we all want to work for peace. People want peace. I would invite the citizens of all the countries involved to contact the authorities, political leaders, congressmen, to ask them, tell them to work for peace and to reject war always. Thank you very much.
00:33:33.320Go back to this point in the beginning where play it from like the very start.
00:33:37.640but shout out to the pope w pope in the chat that's what i'm talking about
00:33:41.760catholics and orthodox man there needs to be some sort of separation all right can you talk
00:33:45.340again brent yeah go back to like the beginning like the end the beginning of it like right
00:33:50.580there go play this i just find this interesting in english i i would simply say um once again
00:33:57.900what i said in the would be right here on sunday asking all people of goodwill to search always
00:34:06.000for peace and not violence to reject war especially a war which many people have said is an unjust war
00:34:15.200pause it which he said especially a war which many people have said is an unjust war is that
00:34:21.460the pope trying to like sit on the fence sorry what did you say would he not just say it's a
00:34:27.060would he not just say it's an unjust war yeah exactly that's what i'm saying he deserves a lot
00:34:31.320of credit and i've been saying for months there's no no he said he said which many people have said
00:34:36.240is an unjust war he didn't say it was an unjust war he also later said playback he said it's
00:34:41.480against international law for sure but i just find that interesting why would he say in that
00:34:45.980way why would he say which many people have said is an unjust war i don't know i just find that
00:34:50.160interesting so you think he's trying to conspiracy theorist in me i don't know he's not trying to
00:34:54.440say it himself well later on he did say that it's against international law and well yeah that's a
00:34:59.220separate statement of a per that's it is against international law by many standards right but he
00:35:03.980himself didn't say this is an unjust war he said which many people again i'm not trying to make
00:35:09.720this a bad thing it's just interesting to me that the terms were used that way i think my
00:35:14.760interpretation he's saying that to talk about just how popular it is yeah which many people have said
00:35:21.980is an unjust war yeah i mean obviously this is this is what needs to be done by as many leaders
00:35:27.660as possible but yeah he's just like it doesn't even matter at this point like it's sad that
00:35:33.260he's saying that no not that he's saying it but it's like it's almost like
00:35:38.700i don't know how many people do or how many people should come out and say i feel like everyone should
00:35:43.580be coming out and say this which is interesting that more people are not well i mean the problem
00:35:47.580is that the evangelicals like pete hegseth trump paula white the spiritual advisors most of them
00:35:52.460are not catholic so catholics they follow the authority of the pope and i give a lot of credits
00:35:56.940to what he's saying shout out to him but they don't follow him so protestant christians
00:36:00.540evangelicals they don't believe in the pope that is the separation and those reports send to the
00:36:04.940pentagon threatened pope leo the 14th uh ambassador over the pope's anti-war statements america has
00:36:11.020the military power to do whatever it wants in the world the catholic church had better take its side
00:36:15.900so you think that's real do you think that's real
00:36:22.300i just like it's such a crazy that's like an insane statement
00:36:26.940yeah well this is real so we do have this speech from headset saying god deserves all the glory
00:36:32.520tens of thousands uh refueling strikes carried out under the protection of divine providence
00:36:37.920a massive effort even if that's not real it's clear that they disagree with the pope at the
00:36:41.860very least yeah yeah yeah yeah well that's what i'm saying just staying like war in the name of0.97
00:36:47.400god is just like fucking so crazy it's what do you did you see it like everybody praying on trump0.86
00:36:54.380like everybody putting their hands on him like he's an idol to worship no i haven't seen that0.99
00:36:59.880let me show you you've not i just it's just you don't really i'm just trying i've been paying0.99
00:37:05.660attention man it's just like there's so much shit it's just like every time i look it's so goddamn0.98
00:37:10.240disappointing that i'm just like fuck like what's actually going to make this better and obviously0.98
00:37:16.060avoiding it's not going to make it better i understand that but i guess i'm trying to refine0.97
00:37:20.820like how do i show up in these conversations that is actually making this better than just
00:37:25.940you know regurgitating how terrible and shitty it all is right it is pretty paralyzing did you
00:37:33.140yeah no i i i didn't see that is that that's real yeah there's a lot of stuff what do you think yeah
00:37:41.300i mean prayers are good i guess to an extent to a degree this is this is very strange to me
00:37:48.020there's a a lot more you i can't believe you've never seen this one hold on um it's it's getting
00:37:54.340freaky like i really think there should be a distinction between catholicism like what we
00:37:58.660see from the pope and this sect this this sort of craziness look at this one you've never seen this
00:38:05.700no bro look at that this is like straight up idol worship
00:38:09.140yeah it's interesting it's freaky um so let's see uh hagseth's response i hope your audio is good
00:38:20.280our troops our american warriors deserve the credit for this day but god deserves all the
00:38:28.100glory tens of thousands of sorties refuelings and strikes carried out under the protection
00:38:34.980of divine providence a massive effort with miraculous protection dude 44 bravo spoke for
00:38:44.580all of us god is good our troops god american warriors is he always speaks in these weird
00:38:53.000sentence fragments and bullet points hexath has got to be the freakiest arrival the weirdest
00:39:02.220character in this war and we've seen a poor he was in israel in 2016 telling the the jewish0.59
00:39:09.020supremacist that he wanted to build the third temple you know he has kaffir tattoo antichrist
00:39:13.520tattoos this guy you should bring him on the pod this i mean probably would i would ask him why
00:39:20.660does he actually have that antichrist tattoo sorry what'd you say does he actually have an anti
00:39:28.860the audio always messes up can you hear me yeah i can hear you i can hear yeah he actually has
00:39:36.600an antichrist yeah he has a tattoo right here i'll show you uh it's the kafir tattoo so kafir
00:39:41.560means uh it means disbeliever in arabic so people have this idea that allah is a separate god allah
00:39:47.600just means god in arabic right and so he has this and it said in islamic eschatology in our belief
00:39:55.000system that this is what the antichrist is going to be depicted as somebody with this right here
00:40:00.920it says deus vault which is like this christian nationalist sort of like people are saying he's
00:40:07.240a templar it's a secret society right here this here is the it means kaffir which is how the
00:40:14.020antichrist is going he will be depicted as somebody with this written on his forehead
00:40:17.360and say other people say yes he's an upside down cross it's not really upside down but it is upside
00:40:22.460down when he raises up his arms like this like right here you could see it's upside down when
00:40:27.460he puts his arm in the air strange yeah i mean i mean regardless of the tattoos like just like
00:40:36.640getting on a podium and talking about like god is sort of almost like happy that we're doing this
00:40:42.780just seems silly and what about lebanon why do you think a lot of people aren't speaking about
00:40:49.360what's happening in lebanon the pope he said they were telling him you should probably be afraid
00:40:55.460you know is it safe and he said well we're going anyway super based but it's surprising that people
00:41:01.680aren't really speaking about lebanon at all yeah i mean obviously the focus isn't on is on iran
00:41:09.500um the lebanon thing is crazy though it's just like wow this whole thing's going on we're also
00:41:14.760just going to like blow up all these villages and fucking iran and take more land that's also0.97
00:41:20.360happening do you know lebanon is the most christian country in the middle east yeah yeah i know that0.97
00:41:25.720we i mean we spoke about it so i knew it i didn't know that before speaking about it um0.93
00:41:31.000yeah it's just all fucked and you know it's but what about those judeo-christian values you know0.99
00:41:37.680it's just like fuck man that's part of the property like americans don't know this because1.00
00:41:41.560when we are fed propaganda we believe everybody there arabs are all terrorists brown people are1.00
00:41:46.620terrorists i feel like americans don't care about what's happening in lebanon because they aren't0.98
00:41:52.360white if they i mean a lot of them do look white i said the lebanese people are brown a lot of them
00:41:57.160are really fair-skinned but they just don't talk about it because they have the idea that everybody0.99
00:42:00.980in the middle east is muslim so it's never brought up but it should be right even even besides the1.00
00:42:07.380color of someone's skin it's just like they're just it just becomes frustrating because it's1.00
00:42:13.260like i know anytime you say this like they're just bombing people it's like you're just gonna
00:42:16.680get the reaction it's like no they're just bombing terrorists and it's just like okay man everyone's0.97
00:42:20.900a fucking terrorist at this point like what's going on yeah what did you think of theo von's0.95
00:42:25.220performance on joe rogan i thought it was good man like i you he's just in a in a unique position1.00
00:42:33.580to i guess sort of get on certain and to have certain conversations and just say in a way that
00:42:38.500like i feel like everyone is fucking thinking and i i'm glad that he's speaking out about it um
00:42:46.440you know i don't know what comes of it for him personally whether he gets affected financially0.95
00:42:51.760or all this sort of shit like you know how that goes but it's needed and he he's just talking
00:42:56.920about it in a candid way that i think a lot of people are relating to and and like feel the same0.95
00:43:01.640way he got a lot of backlash for joe bogan got backlash because he said like oh man you should
00:43:07.840get off the antidepressants like we care about you i don't think he was saying that to shut
00:43:11.340theo von up i think he was concerned because theo von seems really demoralized and he does
00:43:16.020have a history he's open that he has mental health problems yeah yeah i know that about him as well
00:43:22.820just you know not to go into too much detail just on some like friends of you know his that you know
00:43:30.400years ago right have said you know this he has trouble sometimes just mentally and dealing with
00:43:35.720shit and so i think that's something he's dealt with for a long time but that doesn't mean what0.97
00:43:40.980he's saying is fucking crazy or like wrong um and i don't even i didn't watch the full podcast so i0.98
00:43:46.040can't even speak to the context of it but um it didn't seem like it didn't seem like joe was just0.98
00:43:51.720like shitting on him i thought he was just i don't know yeah i i think he got too much backlash for
00:43:56.360that let's see what he was talking about the attacks here what let's see what joe rogan said0.98
00:44:00.320here because there is discussion to preface this that joe rogan is bought and sold and everything
00:44:06.160i think that people are a little too hard on him i think that he does have the opportunity he's
00:44:11.060saying a lot of the right things and maybe people expect him to say more but overall he's been doing
00:44:15.780a pretty good job post trump fallout let's see like one of the ones that doesn't makes the least
00:44:23.760amount of sense in terms of like when they did it and why they did it yes you blow up the leader
00:44:27.860during ramadan like are you trying to make an apartment why did you have to do it now are you
00:44:32.280really convinced that at this time they're really two weeks away from making a nuclear weapon
00:44:35.880like are we fucking sure two weeks that it's not like we haven't heard that before right so at a0.62
00:44:42.080certain point in time like how much pressure does israel have to put on the president like that's a0.70
00:44:49.100a crazy amount of influence knowing that if say if israel didn't exist let's say there was just
00:44:56.700the iranian terror regime supposedly sponsoring not supposedly i don't think it's supposedly i
00:45:02.060think that's a hundred percent safety right but i'm just trying to be precise precise so you have
00:45:08.220this state-sponsored terrorism regime addicted to dictatorial they're dictators they run over their
00:51:59.560like you know what you just said essentially
00:52:02.440is that these countries are reliant0.98
00:52:04.440on bullshit on war to just continue to fund themselves and to keep in power to keep in0.97
00:52:11.100control to keep the economy where they want it to be is is then like are we not like beholden0.99
00:52:17.140to the same sort of fucking nonsense i guess we kind of have been for so many years that's a good0.65
00:52:21.380point i don't think that it's benefiting the country as a whole and the citizens i think it0.98
00:52:25.100benefits the billionaire class no no no i'm not i'm not saying that it's benefiting like individual0.97
00:52:31.520citizens but the stability of it as a whole and i i'm not i wish i could talk to like a fucking0.98
00:52:36.460economist about this shit but because i don't know enough but it benefiting those major companies0.92
00:52:43.260that are like i have investments in a lot of these major companies right not not necessarily um0.99
00:52:48.840the war type companies like northrop german and the bomb making people but like
00:52:52.900apple and all these sort of things all these sort of things the structure the s&p 500 bullshit
00:52:57.600is it all not sort of benefiting on the same sort of level granted in this case i don't think apple's0.68
00:53:04.780fucking making a ton of money because we're going to war or not right but the whole stability of it
00:53:09.660all is it all affected by the fact that we're in war we're not in war yes because it seems like0.97
00:53:15.540we've been in war for so fucking long that it's like imagine if what you said was true right we're
00:53:20.960because i'm not saying that we i i don't think we could get to a position where
00:53:25.540you know i i'd like to believe that we could where we can just rely obviously on our allies and and
00:53:33.060you know people the rest of the countries and shit but like not have to be in war to sustain
00:53:37.960ourselves or have we gotten ourselves to such a point that like it's it's impossible no definitely0.72
00:53:44.820not and i think that focus is just so that the billionaire class can maintain the most amount of
00:53:50.480power and control. Look at the wealth gap, for example. Post-2008, we had the 99% protests
00:53:56.740against the 1%. You remember when they were on Wall Street and it was all the 99% saying,
00:54:01.560hey, the banks screwed us over. They robbed us of all of our money. They destroyed the economy.
00:54:07.160I lost my job. Then afterwards, people like BlackRock, Larry Fink, the CEO,
00:54:11.060pushed things like DEI to get people focused on race so that the 99% were divided again.
00:54:15.880That was the first time in modern history where people were united based on the fact that we are all within the slave class.
00:54:22.880We understood that these are the people that screwed us over, the billionaire class, the people involved with the banks, and we are separate.
00:54:30.460We've never seen a wealth gap this big.
00:54:36.960I think these forever wars just puts more money into their pockets and allows them to control the future of the world rather than for the benefit of all the citizens.
00:54:44.740yeah it's the stability for them and not for us exactly exactly yeah and one thing i don't think0.92
00:54:51.520people see i wonder what you think because you look at pbd and he was talking about how bezos
00:54:56.820and zuckerberg peter t all of them they have to bow down to trump they saw elon musk look at the
00:55:02.100way he's getting involved in politics when traditionally he was a liberal for so long
00:55:05.120now the tech empire they're getting involved more than they ever have been because i think the shift
00:55:10.900is away from the reliance on oil to run the economy.