SHNEAKO - May 15, 2026


SNEAKO interviews Daniel Haqiqatjou: Muslim Zionism


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On this episode of the podcast, we have a special guest on the show, Dr. Daniel Blumberg. Daniel is a professor of Islamic Studies at the Islamic Studies Center at the University of Toronto and has been a long-time member of the Muslim community. He is also a frequent guest on Conspiracy Theories and has a long history of writing about Islamic topics.

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00:00:00.000 if the saudi government says that daniel should be killed tomorrow would you agree with that and
00:00:04.480 they said yes they said yes absolutely are you serious oh that that yeah yeah they were they
00:00:10.720 were issuing issuing death threats against me this is wahhabism like this is wahhabism for you 0.84
00:00:15.840 iran is is a major power now they've proven themselves like they're able to bring the 0.68
00:00:20.960 united states to its knees in this war by controlling the strait etc iran has a long 0.91
00:00:26.240 history of trying to build bridges with Sunnis and Sunni countries, because they realized that
00:00:32.200 the US and Israel want to take over the Middle East. They want to kill Muslims. They've always 0.99
00:00:37.400 had this understanding, and they've realized that them by themselves, they can't withstand that.
00:00:41.680 They need a broader coalition. And so they've tried to build that for the past 47 years.
00:00:46.580 Moving to China and this Trump visit, why is Trump in China? It's because he needs to find
00:00:52.420 a new way to boost the economy. It's to save the GCC. What's the objective? Because he's there with
00:00:56.440 30 CEOs. A bunch of billionaires came with him. Elon Musk. You have Larry Fink, CEO of BlackRock.
00:01:01.880 What is the objective? The U.S. and China are enmeshed. So many U.S. companies depend on
00:01:07.500 Chinese manufacturing. But what China has been doing is China has been pivoting towards
00:01:13.240 independence, redirecting investment out of the United States and into other foreign partners.
00:01:19.320 And China is deliberately doing it because they want to get to a position where they can basically cut the cord.
00:01:26.300 They want to be able to cut the cord with the United States and be independent in a way that they can exert their will in Asia and the rest of the world, ultimately, as a superpower.
00:01:36.660 So I have a lot of white nationalists, for example, who ask me this.
00:01:39.460 They ask me like, look, Daniel, I'm interested in Islam, but, you know, I also like being white. 0.52
00:01:44.460 Like, I like being white. I like hanging out with whites. 0.96
00:01:46.740 can i still be a muslim like can i accept islam yes you can there's there's no contradiction there 0.97
00:01:59.060 so i'm like can you hear me hey why i'm sorry i can hear you how are you doing good to see you
00:02:04.180 daniel good how are you good we should have done a stream when you were here but i you know jet
00:02:09.940 lagged and stuff but chat i don't know if you know but daniel came through we got to to hang out
00:02:14.660 in new york it was good to meet you irl after years of speaking on discord
00:02:19.940 yeah it was a good time really enjoyed hanging out with you i asked uh mirandy professor
00:02:25.620 mirandy just came on the stream earlier today i asked him the same question i brought up to you
00:02:29.620 about she has the had a response from a she i didn't know how to respond to
00:02:33.860 i said we shouldn't say ya ali because it's uh invoking others than a law and their response
00:02:38.820 was in the quran it says don't say the martyrs are dead for they are alive i'm not sure if i'm
00:02:43.620 getting it exactly right and so they're saying that they're not asking alif they're asking a lot
00:02:48.420 ali to make dua and because the martyrs aren't really dead i'm like i'm stuck i don't know how
00:02:52.740 to respond yeah so that's it's not a shia thing it's uh sunnis as well have this concept it's like
00:03:02.500 called toasol toasol and it's this concept of um i saw the clip actually mirandi explaining it like
00:03:11.140 Like you're asking someone else to make du'a for you.
00:03:15.580 So asking, can you ask the Prophet ï·º to make du'a for you, to pray for you?
00:03:22.820 Can you ask others who are not in this life to make du'a for you, like imams or pious people? 0.85
00:03:32.540 And historically, Sunni scholars have always said yes.
00:03:36.200 They said, yes, you can. 0.98
00:03:38.900 And sometimes they even encourage it.
00:03:41.140 Like Imam Ahmed encourages it.
00:03:43.260 Like he has a book about what you should do when you visit Medina.
00:03:47.720 You should specifically go and visit the grave of the Prophet ï·º and give your salutations basically.
00:03:54.540 So, yeah, this is something that's been accepted like to Wessel.
00:03:59.000 You're making a request of the dead, but the request is specifically like making dua. 0.64
00:04:05.540 Like with the assumption that those pious people or it's like literally a prophet, they are, you know, beloved by God, but beloved by Allah.
00:04:16.280 And so they'll be able to grant that request.
00:04:19.020 All the chats saying something.
00:04:20.780 The chat's all saying cap, cap, cap.
00:04:22.560 Well, the difference is we say salam to the prophet, peace be upon him, but we don't ask of the prophet.
00:04:28.580 And they're saying, what if they are in hell?
00:04:30.200 But I think we're pretty sure who the martyrs are.
00:04:33.200 It's right. Like people that die for the sake of Islam, they're guaranteed martyrdom. 0.99
00:04:39.600 I mean, this is like no one says that the Imams are even Sunnis like the like the Imams are Ali, Hassan, Hussain, etc.
00:04:51.700 Like no one thinks that like may God forbid, like even that idea that's blasphemous to say that they're in hell.
00:04:59.680 So, yeah, that's. 0.65
00:05:01.780 And I'm not saying I'm going to say, yeah, anybody, I'm just going to say, yeah, Allah, I'm going to keep it simple. I'm not encouraging that. I don't want to. I'm just saying I didn't know how to respond to that.
00:05:12.120 Yeah, but it's like what the Shia person was telling you is not like particular to Shia. It's also Sunnis, like Sunni, traditional Sunnis, Orthodox Sunni have that same idea, have the same concept.
00:05:25.580 But I think it's a good policy.
00:05:27.340 Like, I think it's a good policy. 0.72
00:05:28.480 Don't say, yeah, anyone, you know, call upon Allah and, you know, I think stick to that 0.99
00:05:35.900 is safe. 1.00
00:05:37.100 It's fine.
00:05:37.740 But the problem is when you want to create sectarianism by pulling in this issue. 0.98
00:05:43.400 So like Wahhabis, they want to make this a big issue and they say, oh, Shia, see, Shia 0.97
00:05:47.660 are doing Shirk, they're Mushriks, they're pagans. 1.00
00:05:50.860 That's why we can't be united with them. 1.00
00:05:53.160 we have to keep them separate from the sunnis like that's their whole propaganda line and then 0.95
00:05:59.400 what you say is well actually no this is a concept that sunnis have as well the sunni scholars have
00:06:05.040 it imam ahmed has it even ibn taymiya who the wahhabis claim to follow doesn't consider this
00:06:11.960 to be shirk um so yeah so this is like a tactic of sectarianism against iran against shia but
00:06:21.520 it just doesn't work like it's not a good argument i think you had a good answer i did
00:06:25.640 more pushback on professor marani today than i've done in any of our calls
00:06:29.180 to get people you know i was getting a lot of requests but i think uh i think i said what i
00:06:35.200 could have said i spoke uh oh no i saw you i gotta give you props people kept saying oh you
00:06:40.600 didn't know there's 20 000 hadiths i'm like dude so many of those are repeated i saw you debated
00:06:44.820 uh that what the i don't remember his name and you got that corrected and then you asked him
00:06:49.760 how many were caught in wudu or something he had no idea so that was it seemed like it went well
00:06:54.340 yeah the guy is uh completely astroturf like he's someone that's being propped up like all
00:07:01.880 these bot replies whenever he debates and he just came out of nowhere he claims that he's not jewish
00:07:08.540 but i think he is uh he he claims that he's noahide so if you know what the concept of
00:07:14.600 noahide it's basically a non-jew who submits to judaism because in judaism you can't really
00:07:21.660 if you can go through a process of converting but they don't even encourage it like they don't want 0.90
00:07:26.840 it's not like islam or christianity where we want people to accept the truth
00:07:30.480 of islam and worship god in judaism no it's like we're the chosen people and you don't have that
00:07:36.960 bloodline so it doesn't really make sense for you to practice judaism judaism is not meant for you
00:07:42.720 you can never be a chosen person but they do have like a kind of long extended conversion process 0.71
00:07:49.800 and you'll never have like the full status of of a jew because you don't have the biological basis 0.97
00:07:55.880 for that but you can also be a noahide so noahide is meaning that you just accept the noahide laws 0.62
00:08:04.060 like not killing not stealing not doing adultery etc and but you acknowledge that the jews are 0.61
00:08:10.880 superior to you so so he openly says that he's a noahide and debates the goyim oh so he's he's a 0.60
00:08:18.840 good goy it's a good goy religion speaking of jews aiden just texted me of course chat
00:08:22.720 asking me to fight somebody on brand risk i don't know we'll have to see that's uh funny timing
00:08:28.780 and it was good to see you we saw watch the hamzat shimaya fight that was super
00:08:34.020 disappointing but i liked you know what did you think of that apology and what did you think of
00:08:39.440 them making it i think it's good over it's not i i don't think a lot of us wanted that that wasn't
00:08:43.960 the ideal outcome but what was funny is that ariel hawani i think he's israeli he was seething
00:08:50.160 afterwards about them making amends what did you think yeah i saw your comments on that like
00:08:57.620 they just want muslims and christians to keep fighting yeah i mean the fight was disappointing
00:09:02.880 um it seemed like you know i don't have experience watching hamzat uh in his fights but
00:09:11.060 um he seemed like the first round was really dominant and then he got gassed or whatever i
00:09:17.860 don't know what your full analysis is on we talked obviously i think he was way trained
00:09:21.920 he looked a little bit way he was supposed to fight 205 against jiro prejaka but i think that
00:09:26.640 they offer this fight instead so i don't think he's gonna ever fight in middleweight again
00:09:31.280 unfortunate yeah so why do you why did he even accept it then like for the title like you didn't
00:09:38.420 have that middleweight title right no hamza was the middleweight champ he that was his first
00:09:43.360 title defense shot so he would have been able to have a one title defense he just got the belt
00:09:48.380 and it made sense i mean in the middleweight division you know when they offer you a challenge
00:09:52.960 like that you're supposed to take it so he did what he was supposed to do you got it you have
00:09:56.380 to be an active champion or else they strip the belt from you it wasn't a rigged fight guys was
00:10:00.400 why was he trying to weight up was he like trying to get another title and in a higher weight
00:10:06.100 division yeah i think he was trying to go double champ at light heavyweight but we'll see inshallah
00:10:11.900 maybe it gets uh the belt back but it was very different than the habib fight i did cliff farm
00:10:17.440 it a little bit i don't know if you're upset about that my apologies if i was speaking up
00:10:20.960 or when i but i just i was talking about it was funny you came with your uh your friends and they
00:10:26.800 were like yeah just i was talking about strategy and stuff and they're like we just watch him
00:10:30.000 because he's muslim like they didn't care at all about the fights i'm like i didn't realize how
00:10:34.640 many muslims are just watching it for that angle and you see that maybe sean has a point to make 0.77
00:10:38.420 when he's saying that he's there to sell the fights even though there's no no more pay-per-view
00:10:41.660 it does add another element to make it interesting they turn it into habib mcgregor too
00:10:45.840 yeah they sold it well um that's why i was interested like this guy is going and running 0.74
00:10:53.380 his mouth like strickland against muslims also like the dirty stuff he did against you
00:10:58.860 statements he made about you in the past so you know we have to support our muslim brothers in 0.71
00:11:04.580 that situation and yeah that's it draws a lot of interest so as for apologizing yeah okay that's 0.65
00:11:12.460 good like i'm happy that there was an apology to muslims and yeah strickland is not as bad as
00:11:18.760 conor mcgregor because mcgregor is a zionist like he's openly he's like going against his
00:11:24.420 own country and supporting israel over palestine because the irish are very pro-palestinian they
00:11:30.020 are shut up to the irish but yeah so strickland is not like that strickland is not a hardcore
00:11:35.780 zionist he has a lot of criticism like do you see the the apac joke i'm sure you saw they got a cut
00:11:41.700 from the paramount youtube channel yeah we didn't see it like because we watched that interview and
00:11:46.880 i guess there was a cut but we just didn't notice it so they cut it off but yes and he's also
00:11:53.220 against the war in iran so yeah he's he's much better than conor mcgregor but i guess he was
00:11:59.260 just trying to sell the fight and it's not like a genuine hatred of muslims so that's i think he's
00:12:04.940 waking up to so many people like tucker megan kelly they're realizing through israel's control
00:12:09.780 like oh wait muslims aren't really the problem this is part of the propaganda i've been duped
00:12:14.020 and i think strickland's in that category and on the theme of unity what do you think about the
00:12:19.720 the jq implosion there's been a lot i know you're you're pretty good friends with uh dan
00:12:24.140 balzerian right and jake she you've yeah so we both said the same thing people are saying this
00:12:28.920 stuff about dan but you know i went to dan's house too i didn't i didn't see anything and
00:12:33.940 asked me to lock on my phone it was it was a good hangout i don't even know like what's the
00:12:39.180 implication of this accusation that oh he told us put our phones away like that when that did
00:12:47.020 happened when i was there actually that did happen in that uh this was in august 2024 um it was a
00:12:52.900 gathering like the the video was leaked like someone posted the video of me being there and
00:12:58.900 nick was there myron was there jake was there and yeah well like we all know like even like
00:13:05.620 you were when i was visiting you in new york um you not noted that all these phones have listening
00:13:12.200 that can be tapped in at any time through the mic daniel said that i should mute my blue yeti mic
00:13:17.360 when i'm not streaming i'm like bro they're they're listening like they tap everything i do
00:13:21.860 it's like i don't have privacy we all don't but i'm definitely under profile and you too you know
00:13:28.080 we're they're listening yeah so i mean it's not like a strange thing to say like okay let's put
00:13:34.840 our phones to side it doesn't mean like oh we're planning a assassination operation or something
00:13:40.040 like uh illegal um but it's just like to have privacy yeah let's and it's not like we put our
00:13:46.820 phone we just put our phones like on the kitchen counter like his living room if you know like is
00:13:52.540 connected to the kitchen and there's like an island there's counters and we just put a little
00:13:56.820 bit at a distance it wasn't like some you know put your phone in this metal case and we have to
00:14:03.160 go to a secret location it wasn't anything like that so yeah i think they're just getting carried 0.96
00:14:07.500 away i think it's just ego it's just um really stupid fighting i do think nick is responsible 0.93
00:14:13.900 like nick i don't think nick's a fed i want to put that out there the allegations that he's a 0.85
00:14:18.140 fed i have no information to i also don't believe that not only have i not seen anything but i just
00:14:23.180 don't believe it and i would say that i think he is if i did but i don't think so
00:14:29.740 i don't think he's a fed but i think that he might have like certain backers that might be
00:14:36.140 within the deep state. He might have backers that are in the deep state. And so some of the things
00:14:41.900 like there's been a big shift in his attitude on a number of different issues. And it comes out
00:14:48.920 like the whole Venezuela situation, if you remember, like he became a big supporter of
00:14:55.040 U.S. intervention and basically, you know, using an iron fist to exert America's will
00:15:02.200 across the globe like these kinds of statements i don't think historically that's been his position
00:15:07.040 like having a really muscular global empire like u.s empire like i don't think that's been
00:15:14.000 his position historically i think he's adopted that recently maybe he has i see clips from back
00:15:19.640 in 2018 19 when that happened we had a back and forth about it because i was very against
00:15:24.320 venezuela regime change i think i've been vindicated they're sending all this oil to
00:15:27.240 israel but he's been consistent about monroe doctrine for years yeah okay i i just see that
00:15:34.560 as contradicting um a kind of america first mentality because it's america being overextended
00:15:41.980 across the globe and trying to control and um you know basically control all these economic
00:15:47.740 corridors like that's what's causing the trillion dollar defense budget like that's directly tied to
00:15:54.900 this massive defense budget and all of this, all these funds going into the military instead of
00:16:01.140 the U.S. infrastructure, for example, or other domestic needs that we have. So I feel it's
00:16:07.380 inconsistent. The response would be that Venezuela regime that gives us oil and controlling a lot of
00:16:13.500 the world controls the choke points and we get to dictate and we get to boost our economy by
00:16:19.040 weakening others. And it's not world dominance. Monroe Doctrine does say the Western Hemisphere
00:16:24.280 specifically i think it was early 1800s where it says that the whole western hemisphere belongs to
00:16:29.440 the american empire so america for people who make their whole thing america first fully believe in
00:16:34.420 monroe doctrine that's why they're also pro taking over greenland canada i think that that whole and
00:16:40.420 cuba so again like it makes sense to have like okay you're america first and you're thinking
00:16:48.780 from the perspective of the founding fathers and you want to extend u.s power but we acknowledge 0.69
00:16:56.220 and fuentes acknowledges that the u.s government is occupied it's a zionist occupied government
00:17:03.820 you have a oligarchy a jewish oligarchy that exerts this much control over the u.s so the more
00:17:13.020 power like when venezuela comes under the control of donald trump that means it's under the control 0.54
00:17:18.540 of this oligarchy it only benefits that oligarchy it benefits those elites and israel not the
00:17:25.980 american people so how do you square that circle how do you reconcile that and i don't think he
00:17:31.340 has effectively done that it's like a kind of schizophrenia that he expresses like you can't be
00:17:37.100 beating your chest when donald trump decides to invade another country
00:17:41.660 but also on the other hand acknowledge that well the trump is cook trump is basically a controlled
00:17:48.060 president like this is everything that he does is in the interest of a foreign entity or a fifth
00:17:53.340 column like these things are irreconcilable but we're supposed to just ignore the contradiction
00:17:58.860 yeah we i don't agree on everything but what's your thought how do we get to some more unity
00:18:04.620 right now because clearly i saw you like my tweet saying that the new strategy is not censorship
00:18:09.380 it's division it's rage bait it's getting people focused on things like george floyd instead of
00:18:13.740 the major issues. How do we try to get more? I've been trying my best. I really I think you see
00:18:19.160 that I put in effort to try to especially unite anti-Israel people. But what's your perception on
00:18:25.240 the on the outside looking in from Texas? I think unity requires compromise. You have to
00:18:35.680 have this mindset of compromise and that not all of your allies within a coalition
00:18:43.460 are going to be exactly on the same page on every issue there are going to be differences
00:18:49.280 between you and sometimes there are substantive differences but you're supposed to overlook those
00:18:54.500 differences for the sake of the coalition and this is critical like this is why i advocate when
00:19:00.740 it comes to muslims like sunni and shi yeah we have differences theologically and there's been
00:19:07.060 a history of war there's been a history of fighting but the whole point of coalition is
00:19:12.380 that you look past those or you put those aside for the sake of a larger goal and in the case of 1.00
00:19:18.920 muslims like it's existential like we're going to be wiped off the face of the earth like they're 1.00
00:19:22.760 actively trying to take over muslim land they want to control the middle east they want to 1.00
00:19:27.740 secularize muslims they want to literally change and reform islam so given that existential crisis 0.94
00:19:34.680 those high high stakes it doesn't make sense to quibble and fight over certain theological 0.95
00:19:41.840 distinctions okay you know should we say ya ali doing tawassal or not or does this make you a
00:19:49.820 mushrik or not or all these kinds of um aqida debates or theological disputes same thing on
00:19:57.340 you know when it comes to america first or it comes to the this kind of new right wing there's
00:20:03.460 a bigger like strategically it doesn't make sense to have this constant civil war when i look at
00:20:09.920 this schism that's happened between fuentes bilzerian um what's the what is the substantive
00:20:16.780 difference between the two like how does fuentes differ from bilzerian can you like explain like
00:20:24.600 what is the substantive difference like do they have a difference on i know that they have a
00:20:28.860 difference in terms of supporting certain candidates in ohio like supporting the democratic
00:20:33.200 candidate as opposed to vivek um but okay is there anything beyond that i don't know either and i
00:20:41.480 want to see them get on the same page but man it's it's brutal sometimes like they say things
00:20:47.200 or i hear things where it's like i don't know how you guys come back from that but jake shields he'll
00:20:51.860 have beef with somebody over and over again they always come back you know people seem to understand
00:20:55.540 the bigger issue i forgot when we were hanging out i brought it up that i don't know if you want me
00:20:59.920 to talk about that but you were well you you are a revert you you did grow up uh shia and i i was
00:21:06.540 asking this to in the theme of unity i asked this to professor morani because when i was in australia
00:21:11.580 these lebanese people oof they were very anti-iran they do they were going in bro whenever it came up
00:21:18.260 and I talked about unity, they're like, I usually don't like to speak up. And then they started
00:21:22.060 going in and saying Iran did this in Syria and they commit taqiyah and they don't actually
00:21:27.400 want peace and they didn't help out Palestine until they got attacked.
00:21:32.560 Is it true about the taqiyah thing that, you know, people like that accuse Shias and Iran of?
00:21:40.320 No, it's nonsense. It's like a nonsense accusation. Taqiyah is like specifically if
00:21:46.280 you're in danger like your life is in danger and there's like a greater power that's about to kill 0.91
00:21:51.080 you like imagine like some dictator has called you up and is about to kill you if you admit that 0.89
00:21:57.120 you're shia and then you can lie about it like that's what taqiyah means and there is a concept
00:22:02.000 of that in sunnism as well like you can lie if your life is literally hanging in the balance
00:22:07.640 you can lie to protect yourself to uh that's not a sin like you to say oh actually i'm a christian
00:22:13.960 for example like if you're literally about to get killed there's no there's no sin on you for that 0.80
00:22:19.240 um that's that's what taqia is iran is is a major power now they've proven themselves like they're 0.57
00:22:26.300 able to bring the united states to its knees in this war um by controlling the strait etc 0.73
00:22:32.060 they're not in a position to like um they're not like being threatened by these sunni countries
00:22:39.500 Like the Sunni countries are not in a position to destroy Iran.
00:22:44.720 So they don't have the motivation to lie.
00:22:47.540 In fact, Iran has a long history of trying to build bridges with Sunnis and Sunni countries.
00:22:54.880 It actually predates this war and it predates Syria.
00:23:01.620 From the beginning of the Islamic revolution, they've had this kind of mentality because they realized that the U.S. and Israel want to take over the Middle East. 0.95
00:23:10.680 They want to kill Muslims. 0.76
00:23:12.700 They've always had this understanding and they've realized that them by themselves, they can't withstand that. 0.99
00:23:17.760 They need a broader coalition.
00:23:19.700 And so they've tried to build that for the past 47 years.
00:23:23.620 and they've had some success like there's been sunni institutions like azhar university for
00:23:28.440 example in egypt you've had um other sunni scholars that have come together to try to
00:23:34.580 build bridges there's an entire amman message a man message from jordan like sunni scholars
00:23:40.740 and shi scholars and like khamenei himself like sistani who all signed um mufti taki uthmani if
00:23:48.500 you know him from pakistan and other major like muftis from both sunni and shia and they signed
00:23:53.380 the statement that we're all muslim like we're all muslims and we shouldn't be takfiring each
00:23:58.140 other we shouldn't call each other kafir um we shouldn't like be fighting so that statement of
00:24:03.640 unity at the highest levels has existed for a long time it predates the current war and if you want
00:24:10.660 to point to things like oh well iran is um has backed bashar al-assad and bashar al-assad was a 0.55
00:24:16.860 dictator who murdered hundreds of thousands of sunnis in syria um that's true like iran did
00:24:25.120 back bashar al-assad i'm completely against that i can completely condemn that but but you know
00:24:31.340 bashar al-assad's army was you know majority sunni actually his armed forces were majority sunni
00:24:38.860 the top generals weren't they were alawi um which is a different like religion even it's
00:24:46.080 that's what obl was right obl was one of those no oh okay okay how do we know obl was like it was
00:24:54.100 like salafi uh jihadi basically so that's okay so yeah so then why did they back uh assad
00:25:03.280 iran like iran viewed um iran viewed the revolution because this is what happened
00:25:10.960 There was an Arab Spring. And in 2011, like the Arab Spring was in Tunisia.
00:25:16.500 It was in Egypt. It just kept spreading like this is a protest movement.
00:25:20.640 You had Arabs who are just tired of being under the thumb of these authoritarian governments who are corrupt.
00:25:28.120 Like they're not providing any kind of public resources and poverty is increasing.
00:25:32.360 Economic woes are increasing. So the Arab Spring is like protests.
00:25:36.420 And it was successful in Tunisia and Egypt in deposing those dictators or those authoritarians who were basically U.S. puppets.
00:25:48.220 And then in Syria, this was happening as well with Bashar al-Assad.
00:25:53.900 And Bashar al-Assad was crushing the protest, basically.
00:25:57.900 He was violently reacting to the protests.
00:26:00.880 And the U.S. and Israel realized that this is a great opportunity to take over Syria basically because Bashar al-Assad had historically been aligned with Iran and was kind of not a proxy but it was providing a pathway for Iran to get weapons to Lebanon where Hezbollah is.
00:26:22.320 So they wanted to cut that off by taking over Syria by toppling Bashar al-Assad.
00:26:29.280 So they started arming these protesters and sending like all of these kinds of jihadi groups, like including ISIS.
00:26:38.860 ISIS came out of this, actually.
00:26:40.900 They sent them to violently like start a war.
00:26:46.480 And so what was like a peaceful protest was escalated on both sides.
00:26:51.080 Bashar al-Assad responded with force.
00:26:53.620 And then these Syrians are getting armed and you have radicals coming in across the border and they're being funded by the U.S. and Mossad.
00:27:03.700 And that's how the civil war started.
00:27:07.040 So Iran had to make a choice.
00:27:08.700 Like Iran could just stay out of it or Iran could like try to support Bashar al-Assad to prevent him being toppled and basically a U.S. slash Israeli proxy getting installed. 0.66
00:27:21.360 That was Iran's calculation. But the thing is, as the death toll mounted, as more and more Syrians were getting killed, I think that Iran should have been much more stringent on Bashar al-Assad and reining him in and preventing him from engaging in as much bloodshed as he did.
00:27:41.200 I think that was he engaged in atrocities and massacres that should not have been defended by Iran or supported by Iran.
00:27:49.260 he should have been condemned so this is iran made a calculation this is 20 yeah this is the
00:27:53.840 arab spring and then the syrian revolution that came out of it okay do you get well how about this 0.61
00:28:00.600 why did you switch well not switch but why did you convert to true islam
00:28:06.280 yeah i i left shiism because in high school i started interacting more with sunnis um there
00:28:15.580 was like a high school msa muslim student association and um i was a proud she you know
00:28:21.540 i i wasn't shy about she being a she and yeah i wasn't doing any of that oh no that's like
00:28:30.220 it seems like the coolest part that's the one thing i wish as well yeah i wasn't doing that
00:28:37.480 um but you know i was a proud she you know i i followed the imams i thought like this is
00:28:42.540 you know clearly the um successor of the prophet muhammad peace be upon him was ali imam ali
00:28:49.280 clearly like all the virtues of ali etc so i was it wasn't like i was just marginally she i i really
00:28:55.420 was she uh in my in that belief but then you know i started interacting with sunnis and they weren't
00:29:01.720 talking about theology um they just wanted to pray they wanted to pray they wanted to like do dawah
00:29:08.620 like in the high school they wanted to play ball like we'd play basketball and just hang out and
00:29:14.380 have fun and i enjoyed that but you know i was myself like wondering like okay what what are
00:29:20.660 their beliefs and sunnis and then i want to do more of an investigation of what as a she like
00:29:27.360 what are the what are the books that i should be reading because these sunnis they have this
00:29:31.640 concept of hadith and they have this thing called sahih bukhari like what's that i had no clue
00:29:38.460 So, okay, they have Sahih Bukhari, what do we Shia have?
00:29:43.280 And then, so there are these books of Shia hadith, like Al-Kafi, one of them is Al-Kafi.
00:29:48.560 It's like big because it has the narrations from the Imams, like the alleged narrations from 12 Imams.
00:29:55.720 So I started reading that, translations of that.
00:29:57.760 I also started reading Nahjul Balagha, which is, it translates as the peak of eloquence, which is compiling the letters and speeches and statements of Ali.
00:30:08.460 and so i was reading that and while i was reading that especially i had an english translation that
00:30:14.180 i actually got from iran and the it was like in my grandma's house i just found it and it just
00:30:22.480 keeps repeating sunnah sunnah sunnah like you need to follow the sunnah you need to follow the quran
00:30:27.460 and sunnah this is what ali is saying in this very important shi text natural balaga so like wow even
00:30:34.420 adi is saying follow the sunnah even adi is saying this concept of the sunnah and that makes sense
00:30:39.360 to me like shouldn't we follow the prophet peace be upon like prophets like he's the final prophet
00:30:44.980 so whatever he is uh practicing and the things that he's doing that should be prioritized
00:30:50.700 above statements of imams or the practice of imams so that's one thing that came to mind the second
00:30:57.660 thing that came to mind is that um you know when it comes to these hadith found in kafi in their
00:31:05.820 hadith collection there's some shocking hadith in there there are some shocking hadith um that i
00:31:11.760 was like i never knew this i never believed in this like for example there's a narration that
00:31:16.800 says that you know uh gabriel jibriel the angel who was responsible for bringing revelation to
00:31:23.020 prophet muhammad peace be upon him um he continued to bring revelation continued to bring a quran
00:31:30.620 um after the prophet saw passed away and that revelation came to who it came to fatima his
00:31:37.500 daughter it's like what like i this is not something that i believe that and then like
00:31:42.540 narrations about the quran like being a much larger than the actual mushaf the quran that we have
00:31:49.500 so like i never i never believed that the quran that we have is like an abridged version or it's
00:31:53.980 like a short version like missing verses like so these ideas i never heard of and i'm finding
00:32:01.500 narrations about that in kathy so i asked a shi scholar and i asked him like what what about these
00:32:08.380 hadith like i don't believe this are these hadith authentic and he he said no they're not authentic
00:32:14.380 like we don't accept these hadith i'm like oh okay you don't accept the hadith but it's in kefi like
00:32:20.560 this is supposed to be like your version of sahih bukhari it's supposed to be like authentic
00:32:24.340 and you have like complete fabricated hadith in there like completely false hadith that are
00:32:30.400 shockingly false like not just a little bit like they're shockingly they're going against like the
00:32:34.420 pillars of islam like cursing the sahaba is that what some of the stuff says the false ones
00:32:39.160 uh no that wasn't like what really shocked me i didn't come across those narrations
00:32:44.760 in kiafi i didn't read it cover to cover it's like thousands of pages
00:32:48.860 um but it might have 20 000 narrations and actually a lot but um but the shocking things
00:32:57.580 were about the quran that was like shocking because you know as a shia muslim uh from young 0.93
00:33:04.040 age we learned that this is the quran it's preserved it's the revelation it's the final
00:33:08.340 revelation and here it is and we read it and we um you know and that's these these narrations in
00:33:15.620 the she she book the most authentic she book al kefi is contradicting that so that was shocking
00:33:22.100 to me as a she and then i ask about it and they say that well this is a um these are fabrications
00:33:28.580 so that i thought like okay if your most authentic book has fabrications like how can we trust
00:33:34.180 anything else like how can we trust like that other teachings like within the she school or the
00:33:41.040 she um history are aren't fabricated like how do we know like it just it just causes me to doubt
00:33:49.200 like the whole thing basically um and so that was a big that was a big thing and with sunnis like
00:33:57.940 you don't have that issue like there and then you when you actually study the hadith and you study
00:34:02.300 hadith tradition and the method of preservation of the hadith then you see very clearly like okay
00:34:07.660 that's a much more rigorous much more solid history of preserving hadith and um you know
00:34:15.900 that it speaks for itself like you don't have hadith about the like that you see in al-kafi
00:34:21.980 like when you compare and yeah so i mean that's and the fact that the thing is that the she themselves
00:34:29.820 like the majority vast majority today acknowledge that your most authentic book has fabrications
00:34:35.260 in it um that's i think a huge that's a big deal and that was one of the main reasons and then
00:34:42.780 i became sunni and then the other thing sorry to make it long but the idea of imams also
00:34:49.020 like when you think about it it doesn't exactly make sense because i thought that
00:34:53.980 the whole idea is that the 12 imams they preserve first of all the 12 imams aren't found in the
00:35:00.780 quran okay they're not mentioned in the quran so it's kind of strange that one of the main pillars
00:35:06.300 of belief is not found in the quran like in islam we know like the pillars of you know the six
00:35:12.620 pillars of belief right like the core of what makes you a muslim i thought there are five
00:35:16.460 there are five pillars of islam like you you the five practices like the shahada
00:35:24.140 prayers fasting and hajj yeah those are the five pillars of islam but the five the six pillars of
00:35:32.220 iman like iman so the things that you have to believe and and shia believe this but they just
00:35:37.180 have additional things so sunnis and shia they believe this anyone who is a muslim you believe
00:35:42.060 in allah the angels the books the messengers the last day meaning the day of judgment and the
00:35:50.860 hereafter and the qadr of allah the the qadr of allah which can be translated in different ways
00:35:57.420 but it's like the uh pre-ordainment um you know allah has power every everything and knowledge
00:36:05.260 over everything and ordains everything like the qadr of allah so those are the six pillars
00:36:10.060 they're based all of them you can find them very clearly many verses in the 0.99
00:36:14.200 Quran obviously right but she'll say no but there's also Imams like you have to
00:36:20.200 the 12 Imams that's that's part of being a Muslim like a correct true Muslim but
00:36:25.900 it's not there like there's no doctrine of 12 Imams like Imam is mentioned yeah
00:36:30.580 the idea of an Imam like the word Imam is mentioned but that's a far cry from
00:36:36.040 the doctrine of 12 imams um and there are all descended from of descendants of the prophet
00:36:43.180 peace be upon him so that that's one issue that the imama is not in the quran the second issue
00:36:49.120 is that it doesn't really make sense like what is the purpose of imams like if you have a final
00:36:54.100 prophet you have a final prophet he's bringing you the final message and the the revelation and
00:37:01.380 his practice you have the quran and sunnah so what is the purpose of the prophet the imams and
00:37:06.940 the shia will tell you that no the imams are not bringing anything new okay they're not bringing
00:37:12.980 anything new new revelation the imams are there to give you the correct understanding of the quran
00:37:19.280 and sunnah the correct understanding because if me and you try to interpret the quran or the
00:37:25.220 statements of the prophet sallallahu alayhi wa sallam if me and you do it we have you know
00:37:29.560 deficient intellect or deficient iman and so we'll make mistakes in the interpretation but the
00:37:36.040 12 imams they are masoom like they are they have isma which means they are divinely protected from
00:37:42.460 mistakes in interpretation and the prophets as sunnis we believe we know that the the prophets
00:37:49.800 the messengers they have isma as well they're divinely protected from making mistakes and doing
00:37:55.000 sins but the shia extend that to the imams and they say the imams also have isma they are also
00:38:01.160 divinely protected from sins and mistakes and interpreting the quran so we need the imams
00:38:07.160 because they are masoom uh and and that's why we need them in order to understand uh the quran and 0.98
00:38:15.800 sunnah that's their argument that's their so so you might think oh well that makes sense you know
00:38:21.960 know that makes sense you have 12 imams the problem though is that well i don't have access
00:38:28.220 to the 12 imams personally like do you know any of these imams personally you don't i don't we
00:38:36.200 don't so where are we getting our information like even if we were she even if we were she
00:38:40.940 we're following the 12 imams like where are we getting the teachings of the 12 imams it's still
00:38:45.680 coming up to us through reports it's still coming to us through other people and those people aren't
00:38:51.220 masoom like those intermediaries of that knowledge aren't masoom like they're not you know divinely
00:38:57.220 protected they're just normal people so at the end of the day we're still getting things we're
00:39:02.480 still getting knowledge of the religion through fallible people who can make mistakes so there's
00:39:10.580 no difference between that and sunnism like do you get the point like there's a there's a gap like 0.93
00:39:16.640 um between us and the imams because the imams are not we're not like sitting at their feet and
00:39:24.380 learning from them directly so there's not like there's not a connection to some infallible source 0.99
00:39:30.800 of religion in either case and we also talked a lot about wahhabis i want to say there's one
00:39:37.860 funny thing about can i say the thing about medina sure so i i told uh daniel because i
00:39:44.420 am getting uh actually i hit up sheikh with man i don't want to get into that some people in the
00:39:48.260 chat are asking i love sheikh with man great friend great brother i don't want to get into
00:39:51.960 the division stuff but i was thinking about you know what if i would study medina for some time
00:39:57.340 and you know become better at quran because i am looking for a tutor and daniel's like don't go to
00:40:01.780 medina don't go to just can you just say what you said i was like what's going on with studying
00:40:06.320 medina i love medina it's one of my favorite cities yeah i love medina too but if you go to
00:40:12.060 the islamic university of medina that's like just wahabi central it's like wahabi training grounds 0.99
00:40:16.600 it's like their propaganda center and so you're not going to and it doesn't even make sense to
00:40:23.060 go there just to learn how to read quran like um you can learn how to read quran especially if
00:40:28.940 you're in new york like there are plenty of people who can teach you in a sound authentic way um but
00:40:34.980 yeah medina unfortunately it's occupied like this is occupied just like the u.s is occupied
00:40:41.920 um unfortunately like the arabian peninsula is occupied so they are they um you will learn if
00:40:52.220 you go to islamic universe of medina that you the number one thing is that you cannot criticize the
00:40:58.800 government at all you can't criticize anything that the government of saudi arabia does or
00:41:04.500 saudi arabia's allies do and um that's gonna and they're going to try to convince you that
00:41:11.740 oh that's actually the sunnah that's actually the sunnah so that's the ideology of who that's
00:41:16.660 the ideology of rabbi ferris um uh which is something that they invented like this was an
00:41:22.760 idea that was invented in the 90s like that's when they really saudi really pushed this why
00:41:29.600 because saudi was being used as a launching point in the gulf war against saddam hussein
00:41:35.700 The United States was using Saudi land and airspace to launch a ground invasion against Iraq, and this met a lot of backlash because Muslims were saying against the Saudi monarchy that why are you using a Muslim land so close to Mecca and Medina, by the way?
00:41:58.860 Why are you using our land to invite non-Muslims to come, the United States, to come and kill our Muslim brothers in Iraq? 0.54
00:42:09.300 And this is a disaster. 0.99
00:42:11.440 This is treachery against the Ummah.
00:42:14.560 So there was like a lot of backlash that the Saudi government got from that. 0.61
00:42:19.480 And there was an entire movement, the Sahwa movement, which is also Salafi, is also a Salafi movement.
00:42:25.880 But they criticized the Saudi monarchy for this and the Saudi monarchy freaked out.
00:42:32.180 Saudi monarchy freaked out.
00:42:33.980 We're like, we have to like, we don't want to lose power.
00:42:36.580 We don't want people to get so upset that they overthrow us.
00:42:39.100 So they started pushing this line, this idea that criticizing the ruler, criticizing the Saudi ruler or any of these Gulf countries' rulers that are aligned with us, that is equivalent to rebellion.
00:42:53.860 That's equivalent to terrorism.
00:42:55.880 And so if you criticize, like if you criticize Saudi for hosting these bases or participating in attacks against Iran or Iraq, or if Saudi decides tomorrow to normalize with Israel, like if you criticize any of this, that's equivalent to rebellion.
00:43:13.060 That's a therefore it's it's equivalent to terrorism. 0.86
00:43:15.980 And the government, the Saudi government is justified in putting you in prison and even executing you. 0.59
00:43:21.840 So then what happened with me, like what happened with me about three years ago or almost four years ago is that I started criticizing Saudi for secularization projects and Vision 2030, where basically MBS is trying to secularize Saudi.
00:43:37.820 They're bringing in – they're having Shakira concerts. 0.70
00:43:40.240 They're bringing on these kinds of like Coachella, Coachella for the Middle East, like this kind of degeneracy.
00:43:47.860 they're um they had like this massive halloween celebration like people are dressing up in you 0.94
00:43:54.760 know whatever costumes and celebrating halloween christmas and they're supposed to be muslim and
00:44:00.020 the saudi state is like actually facilitating all this so i was criticizing this i was criticizing
00:44:04.700 that saudi went from a very religious country and now all those values are being eroded and you're 0.95
00:44:11.460 basically opening the doors to globo homo that was my critique and then i got it you know viciously 0.99
00:44:18.820 attacked like all these graduates of the islamic university of medina came out and said you're 0.97
00:44:24.680 doing huruj like you're a rebel you're a terrorist how dare you criticize the ruler don't you know 0.59
00:44:30.420 this is this makes you a deviant you're a heretic you're outside of the fold and like just a massive 0.67
00:44:37.700 media campaign against me simply because i'm criticizing the ruler of this country and
00:44:46.320 they're false like this is false by the way this is just a invention like a political invention 0.79
00:44:52.160 there's nothing in islam that says don't criticize the ruler like in islam like we're supposed to 0.88
00:44:58.280 as you know enjoy the good and forbid the evil we're supposed to speak the truth even if it's 0.99
00:45:03.520 you know the it's bitter even if it's something that will bring us into danger we still have to 0.94
00:45:08.600 be brave and speak the truth especially against the tyrant when he's violating islam like when 0.88
00:45:14.100 he's violating justice when he's violating morality you have to you have to do that 0.80
00:45:18.960 enjoy the good and forbid the evil and if you don't do that then that's when corruption happens
00:45:23.180 that's where problems happen for society when people stay silent and there are many examples
00:45:28.760 in the quran of this so there's no asterisk or exception for the ruler like you can enjoy the
00:45:34.820 good and it's funny because you have a lot of people the people who are constantly saying oh
00:45:38.440 remove your tattoos take off your tattoos nico like they credit they're constantly criticizing
00:45:43.600 you even though you're in the process of learning islam like they're the ones who are the very 0.89
00:45:49.460 critical of every detail of what you do but if the saudi king does much worse okay the saudi 0.86
00:45:57.580 government does much worse openly does much worse and is like working with israel and the united
00:46:02.880 states that literally kill muslims you can't say a single word like you can't make a peep
00:46:08.700 about that and even one of their big biggest scholars abdullah aziz al-raiz in saudi who 0.95
00:46:16.460 gives lectures like at these big mosques in medina mecca everywhere and he's like a palace scholar
00:46:23.200 He says that even if the rule – like this was his infamous statement from this scholar.
00:46:28.660 He said that even if the ruler every day comes on TV and like basically fornicates, like basically does porn on TV and that's broadcast and he drinks alcohol and that's on TV, you cannot criticize that.
00:46:44.920 You cannot say shame on the ruler. 0.98
00:46:47.500 He shouldn't be banging women on TV. 0.96
00:46:50.720 Like you can't say anything against that. 0.99
00:46:53.200 And if you do, like, that makes you a deviant, like, and you can be executed for that.
00:46:58.860 That's like, that's how extreme.
00:47:00.900 It's like so crazy.
00:47:03.040 So that's your opinion.
00:47:04.660 You know, I don't, we have, that's your.
00:47:09.680 And I asked them, I asked them explicitly.
00:47:12.100 I asked, hey, you know, if the, if the Saudi government says that Daniel should be killed tomorrow, like the ruler says, the king says Daniel should be taken out.
00:47:22.700 would you agree with that and they said yes they said yes absolutely are you serious that that
00:47:29.820 yeah yeah they were they were issuing death threats against me like people like people
00:47:35.120 following this crazy ideology this is wahhabism like this is wahhabism for you and uh yeah you
00:47:42.700 should be aware you should be aware that's why okay you don't want to mention uthman fine i won't 0.67
00:47:47.140 mention uthman but a certain person that you know that was great yeah great i'm sure 0.69
00:47:52.520 But he, I asked him to criticize the UAE, like criticize the UAE, just say that it's wrong for the UAE to normalize with Israel. 0.71
00:47:59.820 Just say at least that much.
00:48:01.380 And there are reports now that Netanyahu actually was visiting UAE personally, like flying to the UAE and meeting up with the ruler there, the king there.
00:48:14.520 And I asked, you know, this, this day, this preacher condemned the UAE.
00:48:19.480 He refused.
00:48:20.220 He refused.
00:48:20.640 why because he's following this ideology he's following this kind of wahabi idea that you
00:48:26.000 can't no matter what the ruler does he's literally like uh kissing and you know massaging the back of
00:48:33.180 netanyahu like these rulers and we can't criticize that we can't say hey stop you know you're an 0.60
00:48:40.660 accessory to genocide you're a proxy for a genocide of muslims stop doing that that's wrong 0.93
00:48:46.200 they literally can't do that so like you're compromised like you're you're basically worse 0.91
00:48:52.080 than the christian zionist like even the christian zionist will every now and then say something bad 0.88
00:48:56.540 against you know against these zionist entities but they they won't go to that extent
00:49:03.440 well that's uh that's crazy i can't that's uh i want to go to hajj inshallah so i i don't
00:49:11.900 agree with every
00:49:13.160 so yeah when are we going to go to Hajj together?
00:49:19.040 inshallah one day
00:49:19.860 you know when Allah 0.98
00:49:20.860 wants you to go to Hajj
00:49:22.680 there's no one that can really stop you
00:49:24.680 there's no one that can stop you
00:49:26.820 if Allah wants something
00:49:27.920 invites you to his house
00:49:29.780 there's no one that can stop you from that 0.96
00:49:31.520 and if Allah doesn't want you to go to his house
00:49:33.660 for whatever reasons Allah has
00:49:36.060 then you won't go 0.98
00:49:36.820 even if you're literally the personal friend
00:49:39.720 of MBS 0.59
00:49:41.000 and allah doesn't want you to do hajj you're not going to do hajj it's all in the hands of allah
00:49:46.200 it's not in the hands of any kind of worldly person or authority so yeah may allah um facilitate
00:49:52.600 that for us and i'd love to go to hajj with you of course inshallah i love saudi dubai is great
00:49:59.760 place and no uh you know it's uh you gotta so um okay well where does this go from here because
00:50:11.800 jang i was watching his lectures and he keeps saying that the uae's finished but it seems like
00:50:16.780 they recovered decently well it doesn't seem like it's all doom and gloom where does the gcc go from
00:50:22.100 here it's not clear um i i'm not optimistic about where especially the uae like maybe a saudi
00:50:31.880 has better options but the uae has come out so strongly in favor of this alliance with israel
00:50:40.920 and they basically don't care it seems like they don't care if they're like the black sheep and 0.86
00:50:47.180 that's why they pulled out like the OPEC. They might pull out of the GCC itself. Like they're
00:50:53.620 not they have basically pledged allegiance to Israel, to Tel Aviv. And so things are going to
00:51:01.920 be bad for them in particular. But the rest of the Gulf countries, it just is a matter of how
00:51:07.080 long Iran can hold the strait because Saudi is really desperate. Like they put on a brave face.
00:51:13.400 They claim that they could survive without using the straight like they can use pipelines to get oil through their Western side.
00:51:20.820 But behind closed doors, they're begging Trump to like make a deal like and that's part of why Trump went to China just just the other day yesterday is because he's getting pressure from these GCC countries saying that we're dying here and we need a change.
00:51:39.700 Like, Iran has the strait and they're not allowing our oil to get out.
00:51:44.280 So we're being starved.
00:51:46.540 But yeah, I think it's not – I'm not optimistic about it.
00:51:50.020 I was going to ask you about Trump and China.
00:51:51.480 He's there right now.
00:51:52.160 I didn't get to cover that stuff yet.
00:51:54.040 And people in the chat are saying I'm compromised.
00:51:55.940 I'm joking around a little bit.
00:51:56.900 I think it's clear. 0.99
00:51:57.520 Look, I want to keep going to Saudi.
00:51:59.760 I love going to Mecca, Medina.
00:52:01.380 I love the people of Riyadh, Jeddah.
00:52:03.340 Like, there could be – the people there are great.
00:52:05.400 and you know i can understand people wanting to speak about the leadership i'm not getting 7k
00:52:11.140 from saudi i keep people saying that it's just it's just it's i want to keep i'm not someone
00:52:16.660 said tommy rubenshine's getting paid by the uaes that's that's not true yeah he was wasn't he like
00:52:23.220 a uh he was an honored guest to the uae oh yeah i did like he he got like he was there and then
00:52:30.660 there was like a massive outcry and then like the uae i think you know deported him but it was only
00:52:37.260 after a massive outcry but you know how was he issued the visa in the first place like how did
00:52:42.480 he actually get into the uae you have idf soldiers that are going and vacationing in the uae like
00:52:49.520 netanyahu is going there like it's just uh open door policy with the uae but like someone like me
00:52:56.240 no so like me is like in danger they're gonna like arrest me as if i set foot in in the airport
00:53:02.820 like that's you think i'm cooked double standards i have i just went to saudi but everything was
00:53:06.800 fine a lot of saudis were upset when the war started i was speaking positive things and i
00:53:11.520 was saying that you know allah says to stand with the oppressed and iran is fighting back against
00:53:16.440 israel they were saying that i should get banned so do you think that there's potential for that
00:53:21.060 to happen uh maybe there's potential in the future right now i guess they're not making that move so
00:53:30.300 but in the future they might if you just keep insisting on unity like that's their big problem
00:53:35.440 like that's the big problem that they have because it undermines them like they the thing about
00:53:41.940 saudi's history you have to realize is that they are afraid of any kind of islamist islamic movement
00:53:48.480 why because they're a monarchy and the idea of a islamic movement or islamic government that
00:53:55.720 threatens them and when you had a revolution in iran in 1979 that was like very scary because 0.53
00:54:03.020 they're like okay this is a revolution you had a king the shah of iran and he's being replaced by 0.73
00:54:08.760 a religious government we we have a king we have a monarchy we don't want to be replaced
00:54:12.960 So immediately, Saudi allied with the United States to counterpressure Iran.
00:54:20.100 And there is a lot of evidence to show that Saudi was supporting Saddam Hussein to launch a war in 1980 against Iran.
00:54:29.380 Like as soon as Iran becomes like Islamic Republic, 1979, they immediately get into war in 1980.
00:54:36.320 Saddam Hussein in Iraq borders Iran launched an attack on Iran.
00:54:42.960 and saudi was backing him saudi and the united states was were backing him and this was a long
00:54:49.500 war like a million over a million deaths like it lasted nine years almost 10 years this war between
00:54:55.700 iraq and iran and that's what like all the chemical weapons that saddam had like the weapons of mass
00:55:01.040 destruction that the u.s was claiming that he had to justify invading in 2003 bush if you remember
00:55:07.100 um that was those were chemical weapons that he got from the u.s
00:55:11.380 so tom got those weapons from the u.s and that led to the first gulf war the second gulf war etc
00:55:17.580 but the saudi is like very deeply concerned about any kind of islamic movement so if you
00:55:23.060 come on and start preaching we need unity as muslims we need you that's like a polit that's
00:55:30.040 inherently political message and it freaks out you know the this government the saudi monarchy
00:55:37.040 And so they can't say the Saudi monarchy can't come and say that we're against Islamic politics.
00:55:43.060 They can't openly say that because they also want to have legitimacy, like Islamic legitimacy, because they have a deeply religious society. 0.77
00:55:52.260 So what they do is they deploy these agents like these Wahhabi agents and the Wahhabi agents want to constantly counter signal unity. 0.89
00:56:03.320 they want to say that no we cannot ally with iran because they're shia we also can't ally with the 0.95
00:56:10.200 palestinian resistance the palestinian resistance we can't ally with why because they're grave 0.70
00:56:15.220 worshipers quote unquote okay like some b some bs accusation against the palestinian resistance
00:56:22.080 and we can't ally with um other sunni groups because they're ikhwan or they like some other
00:56:30.160 reason so muslims have to just be like the true muslims are just the ones who are allied with 0.74
00:56:37.780 saudi arabia and everyone else is a deviant or a heretic or a non-muslim we can never have unity 0.92
00:56:44.360 because they don't have the right aqidah so this is i don't know if you saw there was a clip 0.96
00:56:50.340 that i posted of muhammad hijab saying that this is like a tia project like this is a u.s based
00:56:57.220 project of creating nonstop division and infighting in civil war to like constantly nitpick
00:57:03.780 oh your akidah is this your akidah is that therefore we can't have unity
00:57:07.620 um but it like serves the interests of the powers in these countries
00:57:12.320 that's unfortunate and yeah it's it's just not it's just not ideal it's just not ideal and the
00:57:20.200 sudan genocide is horrible and i think a lot more people it's just we don't see as much information
00:57:25.560 about that than we do about Gaza. So moving to China and this Trump visit, and when we were
00:57:32.400 speaking, I could tell you're a lot more geopolitically versed than a lot of your videos
00:57:36.400 show. Not saying that you're not, or that it's not giving you credit, but you just don't speak
00:57:42.180 about it as much as I think you could be. Why is Trump in China? It's because he needs to find a
00:57:48.500 new way to boost the economy. It's to save the GCC. What's the objective? Because he's there
00:57:52.420 with 30 CEOs, a bunch of billionaires came with them, Elon Musk. You have Larry Fink, CEO of
00:57:58.220 BlackRock. You have Tim Cook, CEO of Apple. What is the objective?
00:58:06.100 There's definitely an economic objective. There's also a geopolitical objective with Iran.
00:58:12.740 They're trying to pressure Iran from the China side, since other avenues haven't really worked
00:58:19.480 for opening the Strait of Hormuz.
00:58:21.860 Like that's the main pressure point.
00:58:23.560 But economically, like with China,
00:58:25.940 the U.S. and China are enmeshed economically.
00:58:29.860 The U.S., so many U.S. companies depend
00:58:32.220 on Chinese manufacturing and other resources.
00:58:37.940 And China is also dependent on those industries
00:58:40.860 that are paying for these kinds of goods
00:58:43.880 and services as well.
00:58:46.380 they also have a large share of treasury bonds but what china has been doing is china has been
00:58:53.340 pivoting towards independence redirecting investment out of the united states and
00:58:59.420 into other foreign partners and china is deliberately doing it because they want to
00:59:05.740 get to a position where they can basically cut the cord they want to be able to cut the cord
00:59:10.780 with the United States and be independent in a way that they can exert their will in Asia and
00:59:19.720 the rest of the world ultimately as a superpower. They can't do that. They can't do that if they're
00:59:25.680 so enmeshed and so tied up with the U.S. economy and with U.S. industry. So they've been inching
00:59:32.700 away, like they've been basically divesting out of the U.S. over the past decade. And the U.S.
00:59:38.580 is freaking out about it the u.s is trying to do countermeasures uh trump has tried to play hardball
00:59:44.120 like imposing tariffs and things like this nothing has really worked um and it's because the the u.s
00:59:50.860 is in a bad in in bad shape economically like it's who knew that like exporting all of your
00:59:56.880 industry like all that manufacturing that you've outsourced to china who knew that this was a bad 0.99
01:00:04.040 idea in the long term and you are going to be at the mercy of this emerging superpower china because 0.78
01:00:10.520 they just are able to build more than you can they can build more ships they can build more planes 0.99
01:00:16.840 they can build more satellites they can build more missiles they have technologies increasingly they
01:00:23.160 have technologies that the u.s doesn't have and um and so many of their cities are i think
01:00:30.200 professor mandy mentioned i caught part of the stream he said that he's been to multiple like
01:00:34.440 over 10 chinese cities and they're all more developed than the most developed u.s city
01:00:40.760 so this is like a technological edge that china has and they just want to increase that gap 0.99
01:00:46.200 and now the us is in the process of catch-up the us is in the process of catch-up they don't want 0.65
01:00:51.000 to they want to find some kind of leverage to use against china but um they're not able to find it
01:00:57.400 and it's it's um critical for china the other component i didn't mention is taiwan
01:01:03.000 like china considers taiwan part of their territory but taiwan claims independence and
01:01:07.960 they're backed by the united states and china wants to ultimately absorb taiwan and um take
01:01:16.120 it back from their perspective and in order to do that they need to get out of this enmeshment with
01:01:21.800 the united states so that the u.s can't punish them economically because militarily at this
01:01:27.640 point it's been proven that u.s militarily can't really do anything to china u.s couldn't even do
01:01:32.840 anything to iran which is much weaker and much less populous much less resourceful than china
01:01:38.680 yet iran is able to bring the u.s to its knees just by controlling like one economic corridor
01:01:45.560 which is the Strait of Hormuz. And China can do that times 10 if it wanted to against the United
01:01:52.420 States. So the U.S. is running out of options. Do you think that China is going to apply any
01:01:58.280 pressure? Because I doubt that was a major topic of discussion. I think there's something to say
01:02:04.260 that there's probably a deal on the table. If they're going to bring all these tech CEOs out
01:02:07.600 there, maybe the United States is trying to learn something about their AI. Maybe they're going to
01:02:12.240 make some sort of deal and bring back their surveillance state from China to the US.
01:02:17.220 Why bring all these people like Elon, Tim Cook, Larry Fink, and the NVIDIA CEO if they are really
01:02:23.980 there about the war? So, yeah, there is definitely a tech component. There is definitely an AI race
01:02:32.240 between the West and China. 0.54
01:02:36.280 The tech component is significant
01:02:39.640 for many reasons,
01:02:42.980 but with the CEOs in particular,
01:02:45.760 like that's something that hasn't happened.
01:02:48.720 The last time that Trump had this kind of big meeting
01:02:51.780 where he's going to China
01:02:52.820 with this kind of delegation was in 2017.
01:02:56.140 So nine years ago.
01:02:58.780 And so I'm not sure exactly 0.55
01:03:01.720 like what is what angle they're trying to play with with china um making a deal like making it
01:03:08.240 worth their while um to stay invested as as much as possible um with the united states but i think
01:03:15.260 ultimately um like larry fink he's a hardcore zionist all these ceos are big tech is on the
01:03:22.960 side of israel like bringing things these technologies they don't need to bring any kind
01:03:26.800 of technology from china for surveillance they already have that like palantir all these other
01:03:31.580 tech companies, they already have the kind of surveillance technology. It's a matter of just
01:03:35.920 rolling it out and some kind of event that will precipitate rolling it out. Like COVID-19 was one
01:03:43.380 such event. Like maybe there's going to be another type of virus pandemic that will necessitate
01:03:49.420 wide-scale surveillance. Like that technology already exists. They're building the data center.
01:03:54.480 So I don't think that that's the reason. I could be wrong. But yeah, it's just a matter of
01:04:00.500 maintaining that enmeshment that making sure that china doesn't just pull out completely 0.77
01:04:05.780 and reversing like that dynamic like reversing trying to get the china more um invested in u.s
01:04:13.780 industry and big tech speaking of china professor jang we spoke a little bit about what's your
01:04:19.940 perception he's going to come on stream in a few days do you think he is overall good does he
01:04:23.780 he compromised what's your is he a hobby there's always something what's your perception
01:04:29.860 yeah i think that he has good takes um he's definitely interesting able to hold people's
01:04:39.000 attention some of his when he gets into like the history of religion i think that's his weak point
01:04:44.840 like when he moves away from geopolitics and he's taught he starts talking about
01:04:48.940 religions then the kind of conspiratorial nature like goes too far i think and i think yeah you
01:04:56.300 mentioned like he thinks that islam what is like the invention of some kind of what was it he thought
01:05:01.960 that islam was created by jews well yeah you know a group you know a group daniel yeah he did
01:05:08.820 he realized he was he was incorrect about that but he does detail the occult really well things
01:05:15.720 like frankism illuminati the history behind these elite cults i think he does a good breakdown of
01:05:22.260 overall and a lot of it is game theory and his perception his speculation so he doesn't ever
01:05:27.500 present it all as fact but do you think a guy like that who do you think is compromised because
01:05:32.020 you seem to uh speak about that quite a bit based off of who i've had on stream recently since the
01:05:37.200 started people like george galloway mirandy dugan professor jang who do you think is you know is
01:05:44.440 there money behind any of these people yeah i'm sure there's money behind them
01:05:50.140 you know they represent different political points of view they're not um claiming to be
01:05:59.160 like when you speak or i speak like we speak from a position of what does islam say or what
01:06:07.140 like these are our values right and when you have like a discussion with um who is that guy academics
01:06:12.740 yeah his name is academics right i just debated him again yeah i saw some of those clips that
01:06:20.180 you're cooking him but like and you get him on this point like he is committed to the black
01:06:26.040 identity like he's committed to blackness that's the number one priority so he's never gonna
01:06:30.880 contradict that even if it's god like even if it's his own professed religion he claims to be
01:06:37.060 christian like and that's where you trip him up that's where you get the contradictions right
01:06:40.600 he changed in the conversation he started off saying i'm christian and then he said i'm
01:06:43.880 spiritual and then he said he thinks christianity is bs uh he said the word too i was like i've
01:06:49.480 never heard a christian say that their religion is bs but that was and how do you you're cooking
01:06:57.320 him right how could that's why because yeah but that's why because what so so when he has that
01:07:04.840 contradiction inherently because he's not going to violate his ultimate allegiance to black identity
01:07:11.880 you can trip him up on that and some of these other individuals that you're talking about like
01:07:16.520 let's say dugan like is he like committed to orthodoxy like a you know russian orthodox church
01:07:23.080 or a christian identity more or putin and the only way to know is you'd have to test him on that like
01:07:30.120 Like, you'd have to ask him questions to see, like, what is his ultimate loyalty?
01:07:34.460 Same for me.
01:07:36.020 Like, if people – and this is what people do all the time.
01:07:38.740 They say that Daniel is an Iranian agent.
01:07:40.760 Say, no, like, I'll call out Iran and what Iran does incorrectly.
01:07:45.720 And I've done that many times. 0.87
01:07:47.520 Like, even on this stream, I said that they shouldn't have supported Bashar al-Assad.
01:07:50.260 I said that's wrong.
01:07:51.700 Why? 1.00
01:07:52.200 It's wrong according to Islam, like Islamic standards and preserving Muslim life 1.00
01:07:56.920 and not, like, increasing bloodshed and the harm of innocence. 0.99
01:08:00.640 Like, that's what I'm committed to as a Muslim.
01:08:02.940 Like, that's my principle.
01:08:04.280 And so it's easy for me to be consistent on that.
01:08:07.880 You're not going to trip me up by asking whether I have more loyalty to Islam or Iran, the country.
01:08:14.300 So that's how you determine if someone's cooked or a compromise or not,
01:08:18.480 is that you have to test them.
01:08:19.980 You have to see, like, this is what you profess to be your highest value.
01:08:23.900 let's see if that if you actually show that in practice so we to know about jang or galloway
01:08:32.620 or dugan we'd have to like do that kind of exercise yeah you're a fantastic debater so i
01:08:38.280 wanna i've never been in this debate situation i think it was pretty easy overall except one that
01:08:43.500 i could have hammered home more was trying to point out that he's a black supremacist and then
01:08:48.400 he started defending and saying well i don't think any race is better than another but by putting
01:08:52.680 that as your number one priority that's a form of worship that is putting it supreme that is of
01:08:57.700 the most importance to you so unknowingly you end up worshiping that because worship is not just
01:09:03.680 prayer he kept making jokes about praying on a rug even though jesus prayed the same way
01:09:07.620 he said do you worship allah i'm like you don't know what jesus prayed jesus said allah
01:09:11.540 and i wanted to find a way i'm not sure if you've debated somebody like this but how would you
01:09:17.460 approach that conversation well i'm not racist i don't think any racist period just black people
01:09:22.560 are the most important because that's skin worship that's if your number one priority
01:09:26.400 is something by extension you end up worshiping it yeah i mean the idea of we worship allah
01:09:36.180 it's yeah part of it is ritualistic like that's what people um understand worship primarily to
01:09:43.940 be like you go pray or you do a ritual um but um you also take god or islam as your standard for
01:09:53.400 understanding the world like your standard for understanding the world your standard for how to
01:09:59.140 behave what you consider right and wrong like that's what determines your behavior like the
01:10:04.200 choices that you make according to that supreme value um and putting an identity or putting like
01:10:12.860 a nationality in that position on that pedestal it's not we fine okay we don't have to take a
01:10:19.860 strong stance say that that is exactly like religion or that's exactly like worship you
01:10:25.520 don't have to defend like a very strong position like that you can say that this is very much like
01:10:31.480 religion this is very much like worship this is this is very similar it shares a core component
01:10:37.840 and it's not justified like it's not rational to think that um your skin color has this kind
01:10:47.020 of importance or should be the determinant or the determiner of how you live and how you understand
01:10:53.100 the world like you could have been like this guy academics he could have been born to a chinese
01:10:58.220 family he could have been born to an arab family or a indian family like he could have been born
01:11:03.620 in other situations and then you're going to worship like or you're going to prioritize those
01:11:08.160 nationalities or that skin color or that ethnicity like it that seems so obviously
01:11:14.480 not like subjective it seems so obviously um not universal or not objective or not like
01:11:23.240 significant or important enough to dedicate your life to like if i'm going to dedicate myself
01:11:27.840 that's why i worship god that's why i worship allah because he's the creator like he created
01:11:32.680 everything he's all-powerful he's the all-knowing like he if i'm not alive he still exists if i
01:11:39.080 never were alive like if i weren't even were never to come into existence he would be existence like
01:11:45.020 he would exist and he would still be the all-powerful the almighty so that's the grounding
01:11:50.760 like god is the grounding of our entire existence he's we're all dependent on him and he's not he's
01:11:56.460 not dependent on anyone that's why he's supreme so it makes sense why i worship him it makes sense
01:12:01.780 why i'm devoted to him i dictate my life and i make choices what to do based on what he says
01:12:07.860 based on right and wrong that he has revealed in his final revelation and that makes sense like
01:12:12.980 it's coherent like it's a coherent worldview it's a coherent like paradigm but what's their paradigm
01:12:19.660 like what what does how does it make sense to think that your skin color and the and the
01:12:24.940 happenstance of where you were born like what ethnicity you are like that's the grounding of
01:12:29.980 your entire understanding of the world and your morality and how you deal with others like that's 1.00
01:12:36.340 so stupid like it's so it's it's retarded isn't it noble to stick up for your people 1.00
01:12:41.740 yeah i think it is noble to stick up to your people i think it's noble i think there is a 1.00
01:12:50.860 way that god has created us that we have an affinity towards people who are the same family
01:12:58.640 same background same ethnicity that's something natural like that god has created us with and i
01:13:07.040 think i mentioned this hadith to you um before where some a man came to the prophet peace be
01:13:13.140 upon him and asked him like is it um asabia like a kind of blameworthy tribalism like you could say
01:13:20.220 similar to racism like is it a kind of racism if you prefer like your own people like imagine like
01:13:28.280 um someone's chinese they prefer eating chinese food they don't like burgers and hot dogs and
01:13:33.360 pizza right or someone like is african they wear like certain kind of african clothes they prefer
01:13:40.340 that they prefer and if they had a choice like i'm an african and i want to hang out with africans
01:13:46.020 as opposed to indians or russians uh that's kind of okay fine like is that something wrong though
01:13:53.620 is it wrong if you have a preference and so what did the prophet peace upon him say the prophet
01:13:58.160 said that no there's nothing there's nothing wrong with that it's only a problem it's only a problem
01:14:04.440 if you prefer your own race or your own people uh in a way that violates the rights of others
01:14:14.240 who are not in your group okay okay so like if you for example uh you uh will let's you know use
01:14:24.660 this example like you give loans to your tribe okay but if it's a if it's another tribe like
01:14:35.200 someone people who are outside of your tribe you give them loans with high interest because you
01:14:40.420 want to harm them you want to like cause them problems but this is wrong like you shouldn't
01:14:45.540 be giving loans with interest right you shouldn't be giving loans with interest at all like that's
01:14:50.080 riba that's something that's bad and so you shouldn't like be cheating people who are outside
01:14:55.640 of your group you shouldn't be doing that in islam like it's very clear like just because someone is
01:15:01.000 not a muslim for example uh you can't cheat them you can't lie to them you can't like harm them no 0.56
01:15:08.280 they have rights as human beings okay or even say you're a white muslim you can't mistreat like 0.95
01:15:15.400 okay you're a white muslim maybe you like to have uh i don't know hamburgers and hot dogs and you 0.60
01:15:21.420 don't like indian food okay you don't you don't like uh arab food you don't like african food 0.95
01:15:26.680 is that a problem is there something wrong with the fact that you like a certain type of food
01:15:30.120 or you like to dress a certain way or you like to hang out with other white people 0.88
01:15:33.540 in your spare time is that something inherently wrong no islam says no you you can do that it's
01:15:39.960 only wrong if you say okay as a white person like i'm superior in a way such that you know i'll 0.99
01:15:46.140 treat white people well but non-whites like non-white muslims i won't treat them i won't like 1.00
01:15:52.660 visit them when they're sick i won't help them if they're poor because in islam like you have to 1.00
01:15:58.280 help the poor you regardless of their race you have to visit the sick you have you know others 0.78
01:16:04.140 have rights over you um you can't backbite right you can't do a ghaiba so oh i'm white muslim and 0.97
01:16:11.460 he's a non-white muslim i'm going to backbite him because he's not part of my group no you can't do 0.98
01:16:15.820 that you're violating his rights and if you do that if you do that because of skin color or your 1.00
01:16:21.960 tribal affiliation or nationality that's becomes what's called the asabia asabia in arabic it
01:16:27.800 means like blameworthy tribalism and it's considered ignorance it's considered jahiliya
01:16:32.460 so that that's islam's so i have a lot of white nationalists for example who asked me this they
01:16:37.480 asked me like look daniel i'm interested in islam but you know i also like being white like i like
01:16:44.820 being white i like hanging out with whites i like being in a white neighborhood i and i want you
01:16:49.920 know to be around my people i want to enjoy my heritage my food my culture and can i still be
01:16:56.360 a muslim like can i accept islam and worship god and practice these rituals read the quran but i
01:17:03.340 want to be white like that's a part of who i am can i do that i tell them yes yes you can yes you 0.78
01:17:09.100 can there's there's no contradiction there the only contradiction is if you first of all are
01:17:13.720 a supremacist which you think that the whites are superior somehow and usually they're not
01:17:18.740 supremacists usually they're not they they don't believe that but secondly you can't um prioritize
01:17:24.400 You can't violate the rights of non-white Muslims for the sake of, you know, your group, your white group.
01:17:32.400 That's the thing that you can't dictate.
01:17:35.520 So something like turning a blind eye, like turning a blind eye and saying, oh, I only care about the issues of my people in America.
01:17:41.440 I don't care about genocide.
01:17:42.500 I'm going to ignore this because they aren't my people.
01:17:45.460 What I say is my people.
01:17:47.400 Again, maybe I have a detachment for this because I'm every race and no race, I guess. 0.99
01:17:50.920 but i consider my people to be muslims to be people of the same faith that's why not
01:17:56.760 tribal based off of color but based off of creed yeah that's the highest
01:18:02.480 principle of unity and similarity is what you believe like what i believe to be the ultimate
01:18:10.560 what i believe to be the ultimate source of reality and right and wrong and how we should
01:18:17.200 live our past and our future we share that we and you may you make a choice every day to believe
01:18:23.280 that in islam i make a choice every day to believe that and to practice my life accordingly that's
01:18:30.540 the deepest source of similarity that we have that's why we're brothers that's why we we have
01:18:36.800 that connection that's why we're part of the ummah and we have that with every other muslim
01:18:41.680 in the world black white yellow red whatever it's like a deep connection on the basis of values and 0.65
01:18:48.560 beliefs and there's no more powerful connection that exists and it can't be replaced by skin
01:18:55.820 color it can't be replaced by ethnicity or national identity or bloodline or any of this
01:19:01.280 and as soon as people realize this like and your dawah is really focused on this and may Allah
01:19:06.740 bless you like that's that's exactly what we need to be sharing with people who are so blinded by
01:19:12.660 their race like they were they are basically worshiping their their race or their nation and
01:19:17.300 and this is it's ignorant it's it's simply ignorance unity is the direction we need to go
01:19:25.220 into and i hope that there's there's more conversation like this it's always a pleasure
01:19:29.060 to have you on it was great just to meet you it almost felt like i had it didn't feel like i was
01:19:33.300 was meeting you for the first time right it was just like okay there's daniel you know but it was
01:19:38.280 great to see you in new york man and i appreciate all the help and uh our friendship i think yeah
01:19:43.100 i really liked it i consider you a friend you know i i think we speak more and i i like the
01:19:47.300 conversation we have so always it's uh it's a pleasure to have you on daniel yeah i appreciate
01:19:52.220 i appreciate it sinko i really enjoyed hanging out with you i consider you my brother and i love you
01:19:58.000 for the sake of allah um this is something that you know muslims say like loving for the sake of
01:20:02.900 allah because i love you like because you're muslim because you have these values and you
01:20:09.360 carry yourself and you believe like that's a certain kind of brotherhood that we share
01:20:14.380 and um you know that's another hadith of the prophet peace be upon him that on the day of
01:20:20.020 judgment um there's different groups that are going to be shaded by allah like they'll have
01:20:25.280 allah's mercy on the day of judgment and one group of people that are shaded or have that mercy on
01:20:32.820 day of judgment are those who uh love each other for for allah's sake like because we're muslim we
01:20:38.980 love each other like that's a special kind of love so yeah thanks so much nico and uh don't
01:20:44.980 worry about any you disavowed any controversial thing i said so don't worry about going to saudi
01:20:49.460 or anywhere else always great to hear from you and shout out to halal zoomer that's one uh one of the
01:20:54.660 The Goats, a good clipper.
01:20:56.160 As-salamu alaykum.
01:20:56.680 Speak to you soon.
01:20:58.900 Bye.
01:20:59.200 See you.
01:20:59.940 Bye.
01:21:02.400 All right.
01:21:03.380 Chad, I have to pee so bad.
01:21:05.420 I got to pee so bad.
01:21:06.600 Oh, my Lord.
01:21:08.040 Oh, I've been squirming.
01:21:09.040 That's why I was drawing so much.
01:21:10.120 I hope no one thought that was disrespectful.
01:21:11.860 I think it was fun.