SHNEAKO - SNEAKO Interviews Dr Zakir Naik： Unite the Ummah

00:00:00.000 So I'm sure you get this all the time. When you speak about Iran, they're just going to say you're Shia, you're Sunni, you're Hanafi, you're Sufi, you're Salafi.

00:00:08.180 What are you?

00:00:08.980 I'm a Muslim.

00:00:09.920 Alhamdulillah.

00:00:10.660 You were talking about the shadow bans from social media. When were you shadow banned by the government?

00:00:16.460 Because they always say that you got banned by the Indian government.

00:00:19.340 Indian government got banned in 2016. And the shadow ban came after that.

00:00:23.900 So you were banned from India? You're not allowed to go to India anymore?

00:00:26.460 No, I can go, but I can't come out. They'll welcome me.

00:00:29.120 If I go, they'll welcome me to come in, but they won't allow me to go out.

00:00:32.620 But what is their reason?

00:00:34.120 The reason basically is because of my popularity.

00:00:37.120 Is that what they say?

00:00:38.120 It is not because I'm popular only in Muslims.

00:00:40.120 That's not a problem for them. 0.98

00:00:41.120 With Hindus?

00:00:42.120 I'm popular among the non-Muslims and the World Bank is trying to bring division between Hindu and Muslims.

00:00:47.120 And my talks get unity between Hindus.

00:00:49.120 They say, Jesus says, I am the way, the truth and the life. 1.00

00:00:52.120 Correct. This is from Gospel of John chapter 14 verse number 6. 0.96

00:00:55.120 Okay.

00:00:56.120 The messenger at that time was the truth, the way and the life.

00:01:00.000 No man came to God but through the messenger.

00:01:02.020 So at the time of Moses, Moses, peace be upon him, was the way, the truth and the life.

00:01:07.000 No man came to God but through Moses.

00:01:08.780 At the time of Jesus Christ, peace be upon him, Jesus was the way, the truth and the life.

00:01:12.560 No man came to God but through Jesus, peace be upon him.

00:01:14.900 So he's the way and the truth.

00:01:16.160 That doesn't make him God.

00:01:17.960 That makes him a person of God.

00:01:20.140 Makes him a messenger of God.

00:01:22.120 Does your deen get corrupted communicating with these people? 0.74

00:01:26.120 Because right now this is a form of Hitler in a way going to Malaysia and this and I'm way more at peace around the Muslims. 0.94

00:01:31.860 But I'm from New York and there's physical attacks, there's mental attacks, there's people constant, there's evil eye and you get pulled away from the dean. 0.99

00:01:41.580 And it's your fault. But the difference between your Ramadan, when you're in Medina, Mecca, around the believers and then back home in the land of the disbelievers, it's very it's the polar opposites.

00:01:53.160 and you having dealt with all these people how do you protect your iman from the people that

00:01:59.440 want to destroy it i don't know i gotta try some better ones

00:02:20.400 I'm getting pressed right now

00:02:25.340 I'm getting pressed right now

00:02:27.140 I don't like the fruit

00:02:29.740 Do you want me to lie?

00:02:31.220 Lying is haram

00:02:32.020 Don't say it 0.98

00:02:35.500 I'll try a better one

00:02:38.760 Maybe the one I had wasn't good

00:02:40.240 Okay

00:02:41.980 Salam

00:02:44.920 my friend okay what's his name I didn't I didn't we are you going next we have

00:02:57.280 another interview to do no we just did about a three-hour interview with him we

00:03:02.920 have somewhere else someone else to be a long interview very good interview did

00:03:08.800 cook me yo did i get cooked bro okay why'd you press me like that man i love it here so far

00:03:31.520 it's been great what's the let's do it let's do it

00:03:40.640 stream photo ready come on come on boom boom nice okay all right someone doing a photo okay

00:03:51.040 Okay. Another one?

00:03:55.720 Salaam.

00:03:57.040 Salaam.

00:03:58.240 Bye. 0.69

00:03:59.560 Bye.

00:04:02.280 Bye.

00:04:05.320 Okay.

00:04:06.520 I swear you are...

00:04:07.400 Okay.

00:04:09.120 Alright.

00:04:10.480 Asalaamu Alaikum, guys.

00:04:14.260 Thank you, man.

00:04:15.060 Question.

00:04:15.780 You care about Muslims and stuff.

00:04:19.360 You're meeting scholars.

00:04:20.100 why do you befriend folks like Nick Memphis

00:04:22.780 who speak ill about Muslims 0.98

00:04:26.280 who are the cause for violence against Muslims 1.00

00:04:28.900 who disrespect our deen and privilege 0.96

00:04:31.060 you have a responsibility to speak up against these people

00:04:34.420 right, so it says first that 0.99

00:04:36.680 the ones that are going to be the closest to us are the true Christians

00:04:39.840 like this is what we're

00:04:41.740 he's a true Christian? I believe so, yeah

00:04:43.520 clubbing with women like that, speaking ill of women

00:04:46.460 disrespecting women, that's what God calls us to be

00:04:50.080 he went to the club one time he's not he's not he's not a club guy look you know i don't know 0.95

00:04:54.940 what's in your heart and i'm not gonna act like i do but you're asking me a question or are you

00:04:58.320 just here to like just to disagree with me because i can answer if you want me to yeah okay please

00:05:02.920 tell me okay you're insulting the prophet you said this already okay do you want me to respond

00:05:06.940 okay overall like there's a lot of you're correct he says things that are disrespectful and that

00:05:13.100 take him out of the fold and that people can be upset about but in america right now this is where

00:05:17.940 the propaganda is happening and he has said positive things about gaza he says he has said

00:05:22.580 positive things about muslims i understand you're correct to feel the way you have i find it

00:05:27.220 beneficial and i find it to be dawa to represent myself as the best muslim i can be in america

00:05:31.940 especially around people like this who have popular influence hold on you asked me a question

00:05:37.940 i'm here to answer the way i represent myself around different public figures political people

00:05:43.460 celebrities and stuff that it goes a long way and if i respond with the same level of animosity and

00:05:49.380 hatred that they respond to islam with then what are they it's not animosity it's not animosity

00:05:56.100 to be principled no okay but nothing what i said is not is not being principled regardless what you

00:06:01.940 think again the true our true allies and our true friends are the believers i understand this but if

00:06:08.900 I respond in the same way if I start going angry oh you said if I start to respond with anger and

00:06:13.940 the same level of hatred that they talk about us with then what are they going to say all the 0.97

00:06:19.300 propaganda is true you really are hateful people all religion of peace oh you really are terrorists

00:06:24.100 I don't want to let that propaganda win I know that this is where all the discourse and all 0.71

00:06:28.900 this happens and where it's most important and where they try to lie about us the most they

00:06:33.620 possibly can so i'm trying my best to beat that propaganda i hope i hope so

00:06:41.460 you think i have different intentions no i'm not speaking about your intentions i'm just saying i'm

00:06:45.220 looking at the material effects of what people like nick point to say on muslims in the u.s

00:06:49.540 i'm from the states so i'm not it's not like i don't know nick point is this and i see what

00:06:54.100 happens to muslims because of that type of rhetoric yeah that's wrong so like i hope i hope people

00:06:58.500 like yourself who have a platform

00:07:00.460 who can use it for good

00:07:01.620 you know be principled and

00:07:03.680 you don't have to be like

00:07:06.260 hostile and violent but you can be like hey man

00:07:08.420 respect our deen

00:07:10.020 you truly care about God you will not speak about

00:07:12.420 Muslims and the prophets. I say this 0.94

00:07:13.700 I say all this

00:07:15.340 I never back down from any of that. Thank you

00:07:18.120 Asalaamu Alaikum

00:07:18.820 Asalaamu Alaikum

00:07:21.680 Alright great to meet you

00:07:23.060 Alhamdulillah

00:07:24.340 It's a pleasure

00:07:25.540 Perfect, yes.

00:07:55.540 Allah Al-Waqaba. 0.91

00:08:01.360 One, two, three.

00:08:03.680 Yeah, the Malcolm X autobiography, which I'm sure you've read.

00:08:07.600 Of course, I don't read it, but I know about him as Malcolm X.

00:08:11.120 And there's so much that I want to ask about your story and getting into your life.

00:08:17.180 They were calling you the original Dai, you know, the OG in a way, if we're going to use Warner's terminology.

00:08:23.060 so what if again maybe well i mean if you don't want me asking how did your dawah journey begin

00:08:35.660 but how what inspired you uh to speak the truth in in a land full of paganism actually uh my childhood

00:08:44.780 i was a normal practicing muslim normal but when i met sheikh ahmad did that after i met him i

00:08:50.740 changed from a doctor of body doctor of soul so actually my parents especially my mother wanted

00:08:55.940 me to become a heart specialist doctor i'm from family of doctor my father is a doctor my brother

00:09:01.780 is a doctor my father is a psychiatrist so while i was in the medical college that time i met

00:09:07.620 Sheik Ahmed Didad and after I met him I changed from a doctor of body to a doctor of soul.

00:09:18.180 So it's a doctor of the body and then you're the doctor of the soul.

00:09:20.420 So my mother wanted me to become like someone like Dr. Chris Barnard.

00:09:23.780 If you know Dr. Chris Barnard is the first heart specialist who did the heart

00:09:26.900 transplantation in New England. So she wanted me to be somewhat like him.

00:09:30.980 So when I met Sheik Ahmed Didad and I started doing Dawa,

00:09:33.540 so I asked my mother do you want me to become like Sheik Didad

00:09:35.940 or Dr. Krizbana.

00:09:37.960 She said both.

00:09:39.320 But after a few years 0.99

00:09:40.360 in the field of Dawah 0.99

00:09:41.100 and Mashallah

00:09:41.520 Allah Mashallah

00:09:43.300 gave her success and all.

00:09:45.100 So Alhamdulillah

00:09:45.600 then she said that

00:09:46.620 I would sacrifice

00:09:47.660 a thousand Dr. Krizbana 0.95

00:09:48.900 for one Sheikh Ahmed Didad.

00:09:51.080 So that's how

00:09:51.920 my journey started.

00:09:53.640 So then I became

00:09:54.340 then I gave up

00:09:55.400 my medical profession.

00:09:56.580 And your specialty

00:09:57.480 was what exactly?

00:09:58.340 General medicine.

00:09:59.320 General medicine.

00:10:00.600 And how long

00:10:01.160 since you quit

00:10:01.880 or left here?

00:10:03.440 I met Sheikh Didad

00:10:04.320 in my medical college.

00:10:05.940 So, when I finished my medical college, I practiced very little because my father had a roaring practice.

00:10:10.060 So, I practiced very little, maybe less than a year and then I started managing a pathological, you know, one of our pathological laboratory centres.

00:10:20.180 I managed it. So, initially, it was 2 hours dava, the rest medical, then it was half 50-50, then 2 hours medical practice remaining dava, then it was full-time dava.

00:10:28.940 So, hardly within a span of couple of years, I became a full-time dava.

00:10:33.440 That's right.

00:10:33.940 So then my parents dedicated me full time for the Dawah and that's how we started a small organization and Alhamdulillah it became the largest private Muslim Dawah organization in the world.

00:10:43.740 And because of the success, the Indian government didn't really like the success that many non-Muslims came for my talks. 0.90

00:10:49.540 So that's the reason I had to do Hijrah in 2016. So I left my country and then I came to Malaysia. 0.97

00:10:56.140 What do you think it was that made you guys so successful at what you guys do?

00:11:01.340 thing of our own it is and i sometimes wonder why people come for my talk so it is mainly

00:11:07.180 allah's help like you know if allah is uh really is out to help you and allah says in the farani

00:11:12.300 israel imran chapter 3 verse 160 if allah helps you none can overcome you if allah forsakes you

00:11:17.740 who is there then you can help you so put your trust in allah and the best example i mean my

00:11:23.820 son mashallah if you see my childhood compared to his childhood the training he got for islam

00:11:31.340 Islam is a thousand times better than me, a thousand times, more than a thousand times.

00:11:36.340 Arabic has language, Habs of the Quran, better English.

00:11:38.340 But Allah's support is most important.

00:11:41.340 He is known but I tell him that unless Allah doesn't support you.

00:11:45.340 He masters in Islam and I think he is a PhD.

00:11:48.340 So in terms of qualification, in terms of training, maybe thousands of times better than me.

00:11:54.340 But yet, it is Allah's help that gives you success.

00:11:59.040 It is not your intelligence or your knowledge.

00:12:03.040 Of course, the more you strive in the way of Allah, Allah helps you.

00:12:05.640 So, striving is from your side and the rest you leave to Allah.

00:12:10.540 Your professions are very different, but also very similar in some ways.

00:12:14.840 So, as a doctor, it's like you're helping people in this life.

00:12:17.840 Correct.

00:12:18.340 But as a doctor, you're helping them in the next life.

00:12:20.140 Correct. So, the reason I became a doctor was mainly to help humanity.

00:12:23.140 And before I met Shaykh Ahmad Didaat, I thought doctrine is the best profession to serve humanity. It is a good profession. But when I met Shaykh Didaat and when I read the Quran more deeply, as Allah says in Surah Fusilat, chapter 41, verse 33, Allah says,

00:12:38.380 woman as a column in the oil of all the home of all in a ministry who is better

00:12:43.540 in speed than one who invites to the way of the lord works righteousness and see

00:12:47.260 them a muslim so according to allah's mana in the quran the best profession is

00:12:51.100 a day there's no better profession than person spreading the deen of allah so 0.99

00:12:56.440 that's the reason I change from a doctor of body to a doctor of so the most 0.99

00:13:00.760 important profession is a day yes the highest profession in Islam that that

00:13:06.640 includes that can take through allah and in the akhara of course then alim is there there are many

00:13:12.640 of them but but that is the best mashallah so how have you noticed the dawah scene or dawah in

00:13:19.760 general shifts since you started you've been doing it for a long time and they say that you're the

00:13:23.680 original i think especially utilizing social media in the way that it's used now i think probably

00:13:28.640 pioneered a lot of the same outlook that people have now what do you think is going well and what

00:13:36.160 What do you think needs work on?

00:13:38.000 Previously, as I told, I was inspired by Sheikh Ahmed Didar.

00:13:40.860 So maybe about 40 years ago or 30 years back,

00:13:44.660 the number one daei was Sheikh Ahmed Didar.

00:13:46.640 Sheikh who?

00:13:47.580 Sheikh Ahmed Didar. He's from South Africa.

00:13:49.260 They were telling me about your son.

00:13:50.500 Sheikh Ahmed Didar.

00:13:51.060 So he's your teacher.

00:13:52.340 So when he was there, he was undisputed number one.

00:13:56.040 There was no more close to him.

00:13:57.100 The champion.

00:13:57.920 And he started making his talks on video

00:14:00.880 and distributing the video all over the world.

00:14:03.580 So his dharma mainly was my video.

00:14:05.440 That's how he became famous. And he got the King Faisal Award. That was in the late 80s and 90s. And that time I met him and I was inspired by him. And of course, at the time of Sheikh Ahmed Dida, there was no social media. When social media came, we even utilized social media. And we started our own satellite channel, Peach TV. So when we saw the Islamic satellite, Peach TV, Peach TV is the largest religious channel in the world in terms of number of views.

00:14:35.440 So, when we started, we saw that the quality was very low. So, I always believed that we should have the best of quality.

00:14:40.440 So, when we started Peach TV, we used the best cameras for the satellite industry in 2005. We started the channel.

00:14:47.440 We started English first, then went on to Urdu, Bangla, Chinese. English reached a viewership of 100 million in a few years.

00:14:55.440 Then, Urdu had 80 million, Bangla had 50 million, Chinese 20 more, put together 200 to 50 million viewership.

00:15:01.440 And how many languages do you speak?

00:15:02.980 I speak, you can say three or more than that.

00:15:06.780 Urdu, English, Arabic?

00:15:07.740 Urdu, English, Arabic.

00:15:10.020 I know, but not that well, not that well,

00:15:11.780 you have a talk.

00:15:13.180 So English, Urdu, Hindi.

00:15:15.040 And this is around what year, 2005, 2006?

00:15:18.060 About the channel?

00:15:18.860 About the PCV.

00:15:19.480 The PCV started in 2006, it was one.

00:15:21.540 2005 was the test run.

00:15:23.100 That's when YouTube just was created.

00:15:25.040 Yes.

00:15:25.820 So that's how first we came on YouTube.

00:15:27.540 We started now on the cable TVs.

00:15:31.000 On cable TV?

00:15:31.640 Cable TV.

00:15:32.160 It's sort of very popular.

00:15:33.360 Then we started satellite channel.

00:15:35.040 Then, of course, we were on social media.

00:15:37.120 So, in social media, of course, when there was no much of shadow banning,

00:15:42.020 so my Facebook reached now about 25 million followers.

00:15:46.640 But there's a shadow ban.

00:15:48.000 So, it has stopped increasing.

00:15:49.820 It increased previously, about 5 million a year.

00:15:52.220 A shadow ban, when was this?

00:15:54.740 About 10 years back.

00:15:56.220 There were shadow bans back then?

00:15:57.880 Yes, it started.

00:15:58.980 It just started.

00:15:59.760 Okay.

00:16:00.020 And if the government is against it, it's easier. So 2016, it started 17, 18. Now, it's very high.

00:16:04.900 So now, maybe in a year, it increased by 100,000 only. Previously, 5 million a year it was.

00:16:10.900 My Facebook was banned by the government in 2012. We started a new thing.

00:16:15.640 The Indian government banned your Facebook.

00:16:18.040 Yes. Because of the popularity. There are many non-Muslims who come for my talk.

00:16:21.500 I know. Especially Hindus.

00:16:23.480 Thousands of Hindus who come for my talk and they accept Islam.

00:16:25.540 So they say what we did not learn in 40 years of our life, we heard Dr. Zakindra in two hours and we understand the religion better. And I believe in talking about similarities rather than differences. I don't believe in winning the match. I don't believe in defeating the opponent. I believe in winning him over.

00:16:41.600 That's what the Qur'an says in Surah Fasilah, chapter 41 verse 34, that repel evil with good.

00:16:48.600 You never know they'll become your friend who is the enemy. So in that way, mashallah, the people of India took my talks very well.

00:16:55.600 We had large audiences. It started with a thousand, then reached to a hundred thousand, then more than a million live.

00:17:00.600 The largest gathering is a million live. The largest gathering is a million people live in one venue,

00:17:05.600 which is the largest gathering in the world for any religious speaker in one city.

00:17:10.600 So and then on the satellite there are 100 million people watching. So that's how it's spread.

00:17:15.160 But then the social, there is a free social media and there is a paid social media.

00:17:19.160 In free social media, we are at their mercy. We cannot speak what you want to speak.

00:17:22.860 If we speak what they don't like, they'll ban you. They'll stop your pay. So that's how we learned.

00:17:27.100 Then we started not saying everything what we want to say. So being limited.

00:17:30.640 So then the Facebook got banned in 2012. We started in 2013. Every year 4-5 million.

00:17:35.320 By 17, we reached about 18 million. And then we've done another one.

00:17:38.680 and then there's a shadow ban now okay because they haven't broken the rules per se right but 0.83

00:17:43.320 they don't like we spreading islam so yeah you really are the the og that's what we say in

00:17:48.600 america term because all this sounds familiar it's everything that we go through now the matrix 0.53

00:17:53.640 really did attack you first what was the reason that facebook banned you originally because they

00:17:58.280 can't just they haven't banned me no first first time it was in 2012 when the indian government

00:18:03.240 complain about something about hinduism and they made a protest about that yeah so they took down

00:18:10.600 my pill so then we were more careful we said let's because the indian government all over the world

00:18:15.880 the maximum social media is in india the maximum facebook followers in india maximum youtube in

00:18:21.480 india so india is the largest follower because because china does not allow facebook and youtube

00:18:28.440 freely so china is the second largest population so the maximum number of facebook users is in

00:18:33.880 america it is india so india is very powerful it can control youtube you know facebook a lot

00:18:40.040 so so youtube is completely banned in india of mine but the other people can access it by changing

00:18:45.720 the location so youtube only has four and a half million i think youtube is now on in india it's

00:18:52.600 available now no no it is the largest photos of youtube is yeah t-series but they for a while

00:18:57.160 they weren't almost almost all the popular platforms social media the largest followers

00:19:02.360 in india number one there's a lot of you all whether it be facebook whether it be whatsapp

00:19:06.760 whether it be youtube is it all most of them because china doesn't allow this and india is

00:19:12.120 the largest population so because of that they have a lot of control so then we should be careful

00:19:16.600 what we speak so my instagram reaches one two three million then again gets pulled down again

00:19:21.000 we start again to get pulled down so now we are there on the facebook they haven't banned my page

00:19:26.120 but there's a shadow banning but but uh one thing good is that because we have no copyrights when

00:19:32.120 we leave on the youtube previously every we used to be few hundred thousand now it's only a few

00:19:36.280 thousand but people copy and they post on their media so the reach is there so do you mind when

00:19:41.880 people do that are you like i agree i think that's the best i don't make a single penny from any of

00:19:47.480 my islamic activities neither any of my social media it's all free we don't believe in anyone

00:19:53.320 charging for my talks anyone calls me and they charge a ticket i don't go to that talk i said

00:19:57.320 that is not all you know mashallah it's not prohibited if someone charges right but it's not

00:20:03.880 preferable okay it's not preferable so we believe that we should spread the message of the deen

00:20:09.320 so people like you know they offer me okay we'll charge and we'll pay you i said no i don't know

00:20:12.920 allah has given me there are people offered me a million dollar for one lecture they will charge

00:20:16.920 i said no i'm happy with what i'm earning and earning more than that and we're happy with that

00:20:21.240 and we live a simple life. We believe that we should live a simple life so that no one

00:20:25.160 can pressurize you and give maximum of your earning in charity. Because we are in this

00:20:30.240 life for the hereafter. So that's why people are shocked when they come, oh, it's a small

00:20:34.460 apartment. It's a big apartment, what's wrong in it? So we believe that you should make

00:20:39.040 your needs very less. And my son was, you know, he wanted to, so I told you, you want

00:20:45.560 to drive the car that I came to Dubai to my friend's house. And I made him drive almost

00:20:49.680 all models of car whether it be ferrari lamborghini drive but we have a toyota we can afford

00:20:55.920 rolls allah has given us that well but we believe in giving charity right majority what you earn

00:21:01.360 we have a business where we side a luxury car and we are all the cars we own all the car but

00:21:05.600 we didn't use it we had maybach lamborghini bensley you name the cars we owned it we owned it but then

00:21:12.480 we are doing that for business okay but we never travel in that car okay test drive we did for me

00:21:18.080 I bought a Camry car there. So, when I go to Qatar, I have a Camry car which I bought for me. I travel in that.

00:21:23.080 A Camry?

00:21:24.080 A Camry. Toyota Camry.

00:21:25.080 Camry works? Gets from point A to point B?

00:21:27.080 Yes, no, no.

00:21:28.080 It's a good car?

00:21:29.080 Of course, it does.

00:21:30.080 It's a good car.

00:21:31.080 It's comfortable.

00:21:32.080 It works.

00:21:33.080 So, we are doing for business. So, any Dai that comes to Qatar, we give them complimentary.

00:21:37.080 On Maybach Rolls, complimentary. So, we get some sum up for that. But we believe that a person...

00:21:42.080 So, I tell my son that when you do business, make Allah your business partner. 0.97

00:21:47.080 And when you make Allah your business partner, you cannot make him a small partner. 0.99

00:21:50.180 You have to make him a minimum 51% partner. 0.90

00:21:52.180 So I told my son in 2020, he was in charge of business, that minimum 51% of your profit

00:21:58.080 every year you should give in charity. Minimum. You can give more.

00:22:00.880 51%?

00:22:01.680 For him, not for me. For me it's much more. I'm a veteran, so mine is a very high number.

00:22:05.880 So you have to give 51% minimum.

00:22:08.380 So whatever you want, minimum 51% you start and then you can increase what you want to increase after that.

00:22:13.780 Alhamdulillah. So we believe that we are in this world as a test for the year after.

00:22:19.780 And you should not run after money, money should run after you.

00:22:23.780 And money is not everything, you know. So Allah tests you. 0.93

00:22:26.780 So in India, when we were there, I asked to pray to Allah every day that let my life and wealth be sacrificed for Allah.

00:22:33.780 So when we did Hijrah, when I left India in 2016, we had to leave all our wealth behind.

00:22:39.780 Large number, bigger money, tens of hundred million dollars. We left it. We were zero. We started again. Allah gave us again. So I spent less than 10% of my time in the business, maybe less than one hour a day for managing my business. Of course, I'm a dais, so I spent more than 10 hours in dawah in a day and other things are there. So Alhamdulillah, Allah has blessed us. But yet we kept our life should be simple and give more charity. Allah tests with you. Allah tests you.

00:23:04.100 So if you don't have love with money, so whether you make profit or not make profit, then for me, for me and my wife, it takes me $500 a month to survive, including the guest. 0.90

00:23:13.100 Not for my DAVA. For DAVA, when I go pay for my ticket, that's expensive. But for my life, for me and my wife, one month, I require $500 only for my everything.

00:23:23.100 also yes not now activities not buying my camera cameras are very expensive our peach tv cameras are

00:23:30.700 the most expensive in the world our one camera cost three hundred thousand dollars one camera

00:23:34.700 it's a red camera are you a very cheap camera we have the sony venice 2

00:23:39.900 the camera is very cheap red camera is very cheap very cheap yeah the more expensive are the lens

00:23:46.060 so for a peach tv first we used to use the best cameras for the broadcast industry

00:23:50.140 In 2015, we changed our strategy. Because when we use the best camera for the broadcast

00:23:54.640 industry, it will remain on top for 4-5 years. That's it. After that, it gets obsolete or

00:24:00.900 it gets weak. You know, so the programs of Sheikh Ahmed, that shot in 1995, I cannot

00:24:06.080 use it on PHTV. So I'm spending millions of dollars to upgrade it, yet it's poor quality.

00:24:10.580 So then in 2015, we started using film cameras. Now, film cameras are 10 times more expensive

00:24:15.580 than the broadcast cameras.

00:24:16.700 Right.

00:24:17.200 So, when we start using film cameras and we purchase at one shot 18 film cameras, Japan

00:24:22.200 was shocked, Sony, who is purchasing, there is no one in the world who has purchased film

00:24:26.420 cameras because when you shoot a film you require one camera and you look into the lens.

00:24:31.020 If it is a fight sequence, there may be three, four cameras.

00:24:33.020 So, we purchased 18 cameras together and each one costing quarter million dollars that time.

00:24:38.000 And then came the confiscator cameras, now we have better cameras, each costing about

00:24:42.380 300,000 dollars but those cameras of course they require specialised to use.

00:24:46.880 So when we shoot a program which has 100,000 people or 500,000 people, these cameras, it

00:24:51.360 will remain inshallah for 100 years.

00:24:53.480 So we shoot on 8K, then we downgrade it to HD and show on pitch TV.

00:24:58.500 So for YouTube, social media, we use a very low quality, less than 1% of the original

00:25:01.880 quality.

00:25:02.880 But the original, we keep it safe on LTOs because the same camera what we use for the

00:25:09.000 satellite, the good camera, will be in the market max of 5-6 years, not more than that.

00:25:13.560 So the film cameras we shoot, we store it on high quality, and we downgrade it for our

00:25:19.660 channel and for social media.

00:25:22.220 You know your stuff, so you know every aspect of Dawah.

00:25:24.900 From the Wikipedia, it's all about comparative theology, but here you are like a cinematographer.

00:25:29.560 I spent more time in administration and of course, we had a staff for more than five

00:25:33.800 and full-time paid employees in Bombay.

00:25:36.060 So we were the largest, mashallah, private Muslim Dawah organization in the world in

00:25:39.600 in terms of number of people working, in terms of budget, in terms of reach.

00:25:44.900 Of course, we started with $100 a month budget, less than $1,000 a year actually, $80 a month.

00:25:50.300 We started, I told my father, you are giving charity so much outside, why don't you give me $80, $90 a month?

00:25:56.100 So that's how we started, with one staff. That was 1991.

00:26:01.400 And in a span of a few years, mashallah, we became having the largest, only in the head office, we had 500 paid employees.

00:26:06.600 And more than 10,000.

00:26:07.600 105?

00:26:08.600 full-time paid oh 500 full-time paid employees and more than 10 000 volunteers only in bombay

00:26:13.320 51 to all to all right so yes no of of income of course other people who support us yeah

00:26:21.160 mashallah so other people so it's a charitable organization you were talking about the shadow

00:26:27.960 bans from social media when were you shadow banned by the government because they always say that you

00:26:32.200 got banned by the indian government indian government got banned in 2016. so and the

00:26:37.400 shadow ban came after that so you were banned from india you're not allowed to go to india

00:26:41.480 anymore no i can go but i can't come out they'll welcome me if i go they'll they'll welcome me to

00:26:46.600 come in but they won't allow me to go out but what is the reason the reason basically is because

00:26:51.480 of my popularity is that what they say because i'm popular only in muslims that's not a problem

00:26:55.960 with hindus i'm popular among the non-muslims and the vote bank is trying to bring division

00:27:00.840 between hindu and muslim and my talks get unity between the muslims so after after i left the

00:27:06.520 the country. Modi, the prime minister, sent an emissary to me to, you know, to time being

00:27:12.000 Modi, right? He just said, Modi, did you see the speech? He said, India is the motherland

00:27:16.540 and Israel is the fatherland. You saw this? The prime minister. 0.71

00:27:21.840 So they want me to come back and they said, we will give you everything, you know, we'll

00:27:25.140 give all everything we support. But of course, I'm not there for money. I'm not there for

00:27:28.200 any status. They wanted me to support Kashmir, you know, what they did in Kashmir. I said, 0.82

00:27:32.900 cannot do that you know i cannot support your wrong activities so they basically want to use

00:27:38.660 your influence for political gain of course yes because they like the vision if someone uses for

00:27:43.220 a good cause i have no problem but not for the cause which is haram like they are they are doing 0.95

00:27:47.780 such a wrong reach to the muslims you know and so so because of that i did hijra and of course

00:27:52.500 when i did hijra my activities increased more myself though my staff may have reduced but my 0.96

00:27:57.460 activities has increased a lot in terms of politics in terms of meeting in time to help

00:28:03.140 other people previously it was pure dawah now we try and help the muslim countries you know

00:28:06.740 try and meet each other you touched on an idea that i think a lot of americans are starting to

00:28:10.660 realize is that division is intentional to keep the people divide and conquer right divide and

00:28:16.740 conquer divide and rule can you explain on that idea how did you come to realize that unity is

00:28:21.780 something that they intentionally don't want us to have no because if you see the history of india

00:28:28.820 if you know muslim when they ruled india for about 800 years right india was the most powerful

00:28:34.340 country in the world at that time if you see from the 15th 16th century and in the 16th century when

00:28:41.780 aurangzeb was the ruler india had 25 percent gdp of the full world more powerful than america in

00:28:47.940 In terms of money.

00:28:48.760 Which year?

00:28:50.520 16th century.

00:28:51.480 Okay.

00:28:51.840 1670, 1630.

00:28:54.020 At the time of Akbar and Aurangzeb, India was the highest.

00:28:56.520 So 25% of the full world GDP was from India.

00:29:00.220 From spices, right?

00:29:01.500 Spices or other many things.

00:29:04.500 Gold and jewels and everything.

00:29:06.140 And then the British colonies stole it all.

00:29:08.260 They came to do business as a businessman and they cheated. 0.66

00:29:12.180 They had their own army and they ruled and they bought a division between the Muslims. 0.86

00:29:16.300 So at the fault of Muslims also they were divided and they started, you know, bribing the people and that's how the division came. 0.83

00:29:22.300 And previously in India, Hindu Muslims were very united. 0.90

00:29:25.300 Even at the time of Mughals, there was no division between religion.

00:29:29.300 So Aurangzeb and Akbar had Hindus who were the army general and Shivaji had Muslims who were the army general. 0.72

00:29:36.300 You know, so it was common. There was no fight.

00:29:40.300 There was political fight between the kings, but not because of religion. 0.61

00:29:44.300 So, when the when the British came everywhere in the world, they divided and they ruled.

00:29:50.260 So then they took all the wealth of India, sent it to UK and they started taxing and

00:29:53.540 all that is all you know and the GDP of India completely went down you know. 0.86

00:29:58.300 After they left the Nagi in India alone, so in that terms India was a very powerful country. 0.64

00:30:04.680 So then we realize everywhere the major problem that the Muslims are facing now is because

00:30:10.180 of disunity, number one. Of course, number one is going away from Quran and Sunnah. If

00:30:16.100 you see history from the 8th to the 12th century, the Europeans called it the dark ages. Dark

00:30:21.940 ages means the world was backward, they used to say. But for Islam, it was the golden age. 1.00

00:30:26.420 From the 8th to the 12th century, the amount of advances that the world made in science 1.00

00:30:31.380 because of Muslims is phenomenal. Algebra, physics. 1.00

00:30:34.500 Algebra, technometry, chemistry, you name it. Father of chemistry, the Muslim. 1.00

00:30:39.780 Right. 0.63

00:30:40.780 Mazaab ibn Hayyan, trigonometry, al-Biruni, everything now, you name it there.

00:30:46.080 So if you had to learn, if you had to be a scientist, you had to learn Arabic, compulsory.

00:30:51.100 And Baghdad was called the House of Wisdom, Baitul Hikmah.

00:30:55.960 It was the biggest library in the world. 0.99

00:30:58.960 So all the resources of research was in India, sorry, was in land of the Muslim, Baghdad. 0.99

00:31:05.620 In Baghdad, Iraq. 0.97

00:31:07.620 Baghdad. India came later on. India Muslims came later on. So at that time we had the

00:31:12.340 Khilafat and we had the Muslims in India. That's the Mughal. So both put together 1.00

00:31:19.460 economically India was strong. Military the Khilafat was strong. Both put together we were 0.95

00:31:25.300 like untouched. Then they brought all this sitna and then they brought division. Then the Muslims

00:31:30.980 started fighting among themselves and some of them deviated from the Quran. They started going after

00:31:35.700 luxury after alcohol so that's how you found the downfall of the muslim caliphate and then the 1.00

00:31:43.060 britishers they came and they brought a division between the muslims in the middle east and you 0.99

00:31:47.060 know what's happened all this happened because of that so can you be our next caliphate sorry 1.00

00:31:53.860 i'm not fit for that so that you got a more qualified person but of course we can always

00:31:59.220 pray and ask people to but the quran says that inshallah before the end of the world

00:32:03.940 the caliphate will come back the method i mean they will come of course inshallah he'll come 0.94

00:32:07.940 and then of course the khilafat also will come so we're waiting for that for the time so do you 0.99

00:32:12.420 think that this is the start of the end of times yes but see because there are signs for the end

00:32:20.260 of the world there are minor signs and major signs minus and the many in my facebook post

00:32:24.740 i mentioned about 87 minor signs and major signs are 10. some have said 100 some have clubbed

00:32:29.780 together so one of the earliest sign was the coming of the last and final messenger when

00:32:35.460 prophet muhammad was born and he became messenger that was the earliest sign for the end of time

00:32:39.780 right but end of time is near we don't know whether it's 10 years from now or thousand years

00:32:45.140 or 10 we don't know so no one knows when it will come but the signs of the end of world have already

00:32:49.860 started from the time the prophet came you know because he's the last messenger out of the minor

00:32:56.740 signs majority of have already been fulfilled the right few pending so then but how long will it

00:33:03.780 take we don't know then the 10 major signs are there when that starts coming the isa all these

00:33:09.060 are there what are some of the signs that have occurred recently there are many the burj khalifa

00:33:16.740 for example is this one no no the building of which is the prophet said before the end of time

00:33:22.340 the muslim will compete the arab from the desert will compete each other with building tall buildings

00:33:29.380 right so that was burj caliph i think was made in 2014 yeah or something like that so

00:33:34.660 burj caliph has the then you have second tallest in in malaysia

00:33:39.700 malakha so the muslim and then they say that women we will dress which although they're not

00:33:44.180 very interested transparent all these there are many signs the much is so a sign of the end of 1.00

00:33:51.060 of world doesn't mean it's something which is wrong right most of it may be

00:33:54.360 wrong like coming off the messenger is a good point so signs of the year of sign

00:33:59.380 of the end of the world doesn't mean it's a bad thing right now most of it may

00:34:02.640 be bad majority but coming off the profit is not bad you understand so for 0.65

00:34:06.840 example they said the mosque would be you know would be decorated and you find

00:34:11.400 the mosque so there are so most of the minus signs maybe about 75% are done so

00:34:19.320 So, as you just spelled out, one of the major faults of the Ummah and why we don't have a caliphate right now is because of division. 0.93

00:34:26.900 Divinity.

00:34:27.800 What can we do to do our best to bring more unity right now?

00:34:31.500 And this is why you've been banned.

00:34:33.300 You've been shadow banned and banned from governments because of unity.

00:34:35.500 And I think we now see how important this is.

00:34:39.040 What can we do to bring unity right now?

00:34:40.800 The reply is in the Hadith of the Prophet.

00:34:43.100 Muhammad Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam, my beloved Prophet, said in Sunan Abu Daud,

00:34:45.880 Void No. 4, Hadith No. 4297, the Prophet said a time will come where Muslims will be pounced

00:34:54.880 upon. All would jump on the Muslims as how they jump on the food. 1.00

00:34:58.880 This is happening right now. 0.66

00:35:00.880 So then the sahaba asked, will the Muslims be less in number? 1.00

00:35:03.880 The Prophet said, no, Muslims will be in large numbers, but they'll be like froth. 1.00

00:35:06.880 Froth has no direction as the wave goes, they keep on pointing, it will be like froth. 0.99

00:35:10.880 And Allah will take away the fear of the enemies of Muslims from their heart.

00:35:17.000 Means the enemies of Muslims who would normally fear Muslims, their fear would be taken away and Muslims will have wahan.

00:35:23.500 So the Sahaba asked, what is wahan?

00:35:25.440 The Prophet said, hubbul dunya, kaharatul maun.

00:35:28.940 The Muslims will love dunya and they will fear death.

00:35:32.560 So looking at this today, the world population is 8.278 billion because I gave a talk yesterday. 1.00

00:35:39.700 So whenever I give a talk, I update my statistics.

00:35:42.760 Whenever I give a new talk, as of yesterday, it was 8.278 billion population,

00:35:48.680 out of which more than 25% are Muslim, more than 2 billion, or 2.07 billion are Muslims.

00:35:54.900 Never in the history of the world have Muslims been more than 25%.

00:35:59.000 Have they been more than 2 billion? We are a large number.

00:36:01.680 Every fourth human being is a Muslim. 1.00

00:36:03.540 But you look at the Muslim, we are in a terrible state. 1.00

00:36:05.640 We have been kicked around. We have been humiliated. We have been kicked like a football. Why? 1.00

00:36:10.400 You see, we have a minority, whether it be China, in the Xinjiang area, whether it be the Rohingyas in Myanmar, whether it be Muslims in India, whether it be Muslim countries, whether it be Yemen, they're fighting among themselves in Sudan, in Afghanistan.

00:36:25.660 Palestine. 0.91

00:36:26.340 Palestine, they're attacking. What are the other things we're doing? 0.96

00:36:28.420 Iran.

00:36:29.020 Iran. 0.98

00:36:29.580 That's a great point. Two billion, but no unity. 1.00

00:36:32.960 Imagine if all, and even at the time when the Caliphate was at the weakest, about 100

00:36:40.280 years ago, when the Caliphate was at the weakest, weakest, that's the weakest, maybe 110 years

00:36:49.880 back, you know.

00:36:50.880 At that time also we were strong because they were afraid that Muslims are united.

00:36:55.340 In the Ottoman war.

00:36:56.340 Yes, even Ottoman time when they were at the weakest, yet they feared the Muslims because

00:37:00.400 at that time they took out a drama. You know France had taken out a drama against the Prophet.

00:37:06.160 So Sultan Hamid at that time said that you better stop this drama against the Prophet

00:37:10.460 and they were scared. After a few years in London they had the same drama. Again the

00:37:16.320 caliph wrote a letter. They said this is not France, this is London. He said you don't

00:37:21.120 know us. If I tell what you're going to do by Muslim Ummah, all will attack you and 1.00

00:37:26.220 They were afraid. That time we were weak, very weak. Yet they were afraid that Muslims had the power because there was one leader. 0.94

00:37:32.220 Today one Muslim country is fighting against another Muslim country. One Muslim country is supporting the second Muslim country to overpower the third Muslim country. Why?

00:37:40.220 So we need a caliph then. I asked PMS. He said you don't want to be the caliph. We need someone. How do we find some leadership?

00:37:49.220 We can always talk about having a caliph, I mean I don't think so, I have the qualities

00:37:54.640 of being a caliph, I'm a dai, so of course we require a caliph and the caliph will come

00:37:59.260 for sure.

00:38:00.640 How long we don't know, it's there in the hadith.

00:38:03.080 So the thing is there that today the Muslims are more bothered about their seat in the

00:38:08.220 dunya. 0.92

00:38:09.220 So I tell in my talks, you don't be bothered about your seat in dunya whether you are powerful

00:38:13.480 in a company or organisation or a city or a state or a country.

00:38:17.240 You strive for your seat in Channah, and that is eternal seat. 1.00

00:38:21.960 This seat, so people are more bothered about, they are taking the help of a non-Muslim country 1.00

00:38:26.520 for protection. 1.00

00:38:27.520 The GCC, like, it's, yeah, you're right. 0.96

00:38:31.780 And most of the Muslim countries…

00:38:32.780 Are you banned from the GCC?

00:38:34.200 No, no, most of them are willing to give me citizenship.

00:38:36.740 Alhamdulillah.

00:38:37.740 Okay.

00:38:38.740 But I've been offered from 15 countries citizenship, but I prefer, you know, Malaysia.

00:38:45.740 Malaysia is it's a good choice and I have to say in Malaysia

00:38:50.300 mashallah so the thing is that unfortunately of course they love me

00:38:57.380 they respect me so we are trying to use whatever a little bit influence we have

00:39:01.160 to try to get them closer to Quran right and now the the situation you you see

00:39:06.900 that we should realize that Allah is the one if Allah helps you no one can overcome 0.77

00:39:11.060 you and we see in the history of the Prophet in the Battle of Badr the 0.97

00:39:14.780 The Muslims were only 300 and the opposition was three times more and they won the battle. 0.98

00:39:18.960 The same thing. 0.86

00:39:19.960 Now you see what's happening in Afghanistan.

00:39:20.960 For more than 20 years, they have spent more than a trillion dollars, America.

00:39:25.940 And finally they had to leave Afghanistan.

00:39:27.380 Taliban won against the strongest military in the world.

00:39:30.960 And they were the weakest country.

00:39:31.960 Now what's happening in Iran?

00:39:34.380 So with all the top fighter jets, F-35, F-16, F-15, radar, everything. 0.99

00:39:41.620 see, so this is, so the problem, Muslims should realize that the one who can protect us best 0.98

00:39:46.740 is Allah. So if you go away from the teachings of Allah, so when we realize this, that Allah

00:39:53.780 is the one who can, and when we start not fearing death, now because we fear death, 1.00

00:39:59.260 we are paying billions of dollars to the kuffar, non-Muslim to protect us. When you don't 1.00

00:40:04.220 fear death, so the Prophet said, Kahan will be in the Muslim, love of dunya and fear of

00:40:09.800 death so the moment you start not loving dunya that for me wealth is nothing so if you start 0.91

00:40:16.020 doing that the wealth is nothing you need a simple life i don't want a position i don't want to see

00:40:20.420 it i want in akhara and then you stop fearing death that's what happened taliban they weren't

00:40:25.080 afraid iran is not afraid so when they say that you're going to bombard the bridge or bombard the

00:40:29.980 the place where the nuclear site is there they are making human chain imagine other other people

00:40:37.200 run away. So they're making

00:40:39.400 a human chain. That means they don't fear death.

00:40:41.900 Oh, okay. We have differences with Iran. 0.99

00:40:43.860 Correct? They have done the atrocities. 0.98

00:40:46.260 But that is different.

00:40:47.260 At this time, we should forget our

00:40:49.280 differences. Thank you. You're saying everything

00:40:51.500 that I want. We have

00:40:53.400 differences. That's the different thing. So we're not

00:40:55.380 going to talk about, see, at the time of

00:40:57.340 the Sahabas. If you see the history of the

00:40:59.280 Prophet and of the Sahabas,

00:41:01.280 the Sahabas have differences. But when

00:41:03.260 a third party came to take advantage, they

00:41:05.220 say, you don't interfere between. We are brothers.

00:41:06.640 You know, we will sort it out among ourselves. You don't come and take advantage. So this

00:41:11.640 is what we see in the history of the Sabbath. So I'm, I've got my, I'm with the vision. 0.62

00:41:17.640 But now when the Israel and America are attacking a Muslim country, how can we support?

00:41:23.640 Thank you. You're saying exactly what I've been, this whole message of my content is

00:41:27.640 about, especially right now. So I got a lot of people upset in the GCC just saying, why

00:41:31.640 are you talking positively about the people of Iran? Well, clearly they don't fear.

00:41:36.640 No, Allah says that. Allah says in the Quran that a one on whom Zulm is done, Mazlum is called, on whom oppression is done. If the oppression is dua, even if he is a non-Muslim, hypothetically I agree with the non-Muslim, you understand na?

00:41:53.640 One on the operation is done. Allah listens to the dua of the oppressed person. And if a non-Muslim country is just, Allah will support that. And if a Muslim country is doing injustice, Allah will support the non-Muslim country which is justice rather than a Muslim country which is doing injustice. 1.00

00:42:13.160 And Ibn Taymiyyah said this. 0.97

00:42:15.340 So, there are worse in the Quran.

00:42:18.220 So, based on the Quran and Hadith, there are differences.

00:42:22.300 That is a different chapter.

00:42:23.920 That doesn't mean I agree with the 100 person.

00:42:26.420 At this time, there is Zulm done on them. 0.57

00:42:29.120 They have been killed, whether it be Gaza, whether it be Iran. 0.57

00:42:32.040 And how can we just neglect it? 0.96

00:42:35.300 That doesn't mean I'm agreeing with the 100 person.

00:42:37.260 This time, we have to be united.

00:42:38.960 Thank you.

00:42:39.460 Yes.

00:42:39.760 We have to be united.

00:42:40.500 Thank you.

00:42:40.860 And you see, that's what the Quran says.

00:42:42.460 That's what the Prophet did. That's what the Sahabas did. That's what the Khulfarashidin did. 1.00

00:42:46.680 So why are we... No, the problem is we are afraid of death. That's it. 1.00

00:42:53.040 And see what's happening now. With all the latest technology, latest radar system, billions of dollars.

00:42:58.980 They're spending more than a billion dollar a day to survive. And they're using cheap drones of 20,000.

00:43:03.340 50K drones, 5K drones.

00:43:04.800 20,000 drones and they're attacking a billion dollar.

00:43:07.360 Right. Destroying.

00:43:08.900 And this is the thing that we should not love this world. 0.99

00:43:12.460 You should be more bothered that our final destination is Akhira.

00:43:15.960 So if you lead the life, that where will have benefit more is a better businessman.

00:43:19.960 So these people are short term businessmen.

00:43:21.960 They only bother about this world.

00:43:23.960 So if you look at the, see we are going to live in this world for how long?

00:43:26.960 70 years, 80 years, 90 years?

00:43:28.960 Not more than that, maximum 100.

00:43:30.960 Compared to the Akhira, which is eternal.

00:43:33.960 So if you are a good businessman, that if I give you some difficulty,

00:43:37.960 if I give you some pain for the small 0.001% compared to the Akhira,

00:43:41.960 you would love okay i don't mind having pain if you're doing an operation you're giving an injection

00:43:46.480 you're getting a poke but then you're going to be cured so comparatively even if you see in this

00:43:51.160 world you have difficulties you have turmoil you have to face something it's good it's a test

00:43:56.460 for the examination you study hard you sleep less for that few hours so that you get a good result

00:44:01.820 exactly so allah says in surah mulch chapter 16 verse number two allah has created death and life

00:44:08.980 to test which is good indeed. See, all of these people, Muslim countries, I don't take 1.00

00:44:13.380 name normally when I talk, you know. Many I meet, I know them, we have to guide them.

00:44:19.700 It is not, see, and we have to guide with thicma. See, talking, see, if I am going to 0.92

00:44:24.740 talk something, and they won't accept what it is. Okay, I have done my duty. But you

00:44:28.980 have to do with thicma. You should not, I always tell that if you want to talk to someone 1.00

00:44:32.840 who is on high power, whether it be the government, whether it be a big celebrity, do with thicma. 0.98

00:44:37.760 You can't insult them. If you insult them, the chances you'll win them more is less.

00:44:40.760 You have to speak with hikmah, with love. 0.81

00:44:43.760 Our main duty is to win them more, not defeat them. 1.00

00:44:46.760 Not to prove them wrong. What are you going to look into?

00:44:49.760 We do our job in the best of ability, as Allah says in Surah Nahal, chapter 16, verse 125.

00:44:58.760 Invite all to the way of the Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching.

00:45:02.760 So if you do it with wisdom, not that, okay, see, I spoke the truth.

00:45:05.760 I gave good to their country.

00:45:07.580 I gave good to their president.

00:45:09.140 What is the benefit?

00:45:10.200 Are you trying to score points here?

00:45:12.100 We are trying to win. 0.99

00:45:13.560 Follow the Quran. 0.54

00:45:15.140 You want to win them over, not defeat them. 0.99

00:45:16.780 Win them over, correct. 0.90

00:45:17.900 So same way in the Quran, 0.99

00:45:19.620 see, when I'm giving advice to a normal person, 0.90

00:45:21.520 it's different.

00:45:21.880 When I'm giving advice to the head of states,

00:45:23.460 it's different. 1.00

00:45:24.300 This is what Islam says. 1.00

00:45:25.540 I cannot just bombard, even if I'm right. 1.00

00:45:29.360 You know, I will push them over, in fact.

00:45:31.160 More, on the other side.

00:45:32.420 I have to win them over.

00:45:33.200 You know, so if Allah is giving, Allah made you a celebrity, for example, so it is your duty not just to say, I am a celebrity, I have come on the social media, I have spoken in the truth, no, that is it, speaking the truth is better than not speaking the truth, and that is only a small portion you have done, your job is to win the move, so when you are giving advice, your advice should even touch their heart, you know, so there are some people, some dais, very few, who take names and they criticize and they keep on bombarding, I gave the message with Hikma.

00:46:01.900 I told many things now

00:46:03.560 without the he names

00:46:05.480 so those who are intelligent

00:46:06.860 realize who I'm speaking about

00:46:08.660 because our job is that

00:46:10.860 if they like you

00:46:12.060 as a celebrity

00:46:12.860 how do you influence them

00:46:14.860 to come on the HAK

00:46:15.580 is your job

00:46:16.520 you have to speak with love

00:46:17.420 I can see why you're a threat now

00:46:19.160 I understand

00:46:19.920 you probably don't get into

00:46:21.660 debates the way

00:46:22.740 that we're used to now

00:46:23.680 a lot of the conversations

00:46:24.800 screaming matches

00:46:26.060 depending where you are

00:46:28.160 if you're in a boxing match

00:46:29.940 you have to give an accord

00:46:30.700 Right. If I'm on a debate on the stage, I'm different. They have to be like a lion, correct?

00:46:35.320 Right. But not, so the main job is to get the people close to Quran. Right. 0.99

00:46:41.440 Whether it be a non-Muslim, whether it be anyone, whether it be a Muslim not practicing Islam.

00:46:46.320 So that's what, after I did my hijrah, besides my da'wah on the stage, we're involved in, you know, speaking with different heads.

00:46:52.640 We're not there to humiliate them, we're here to invite them.

00:46:54.840 It doesn't make, it's important to remember.

00:46:57.120 It doesn't make any, it will not benefit you.

00:46:59.980 There are already 100 people, 1,000 people speaking against them.

00:47:03.060 What is it?

00:47:04.280 One thing is that you cannot support them, for sure.

00:47:08.300 Instead of supporting speaking against them is better,

00:47:10.280 but the best is invite them with Sushma.

00:47:12.720 Because if they call you to meet you and you're meeting them

00:47:15.580 and you're an opportunity because they're a celebrity,

00:47:17.900 so you have to take advantage of, and depending upon how close you are,

00:47:22.160 because I've met many heads of states, a Muslim country, you know, many.

00:47:25.080 so then depending how big a fan

00:47:27.840 he is of yours, you give that advice

00:47:29.860 and Allah has blessed us that

00:47:31.900 we, okay some people listen to

00:47:33.800 advice, some people don't, some people, so we have to

00:47:35.740 do our job of just delivering the message

00:47:37.440 whether he agrees or not, that's

00:47:39.980 it, so Allah says

00:47:41.080 Allah told the Prophet in Surah

00:47:44.140 Gasha chapter 18, verse 19 to

00:47:45.900 21,

00:47:46.680 and now we have

00:47:50.020 a very cold water

00:47:50.480 So I'm sure you get this all the time

00:47:57.020 When you speak about Iran

00:47:58.040 They're going to say this

00:47:59.360 Or they're going to say you're Shia

00:48:00.920 You're Sunni, you're Hanafi 0.99

00:48:02.340 You're Sufi, you're Salafi 0.99

00:48:05.280 What are you?

00:48:06.680 I'm a Muslim

00:48:07.220 Allah says in the Quran

00:48:09.540 In many places 0.92

00:48:10.460 There's those in the Quran

00:48:14.000 Call yourself Hanafi, Shafi, Hanbali, Maliki

00:48:16.080 Or a Shia or a Sunni

00:48:17.280 I respect all the Ahimmas

00:48:19.100 all the four Aymahs, Imam Abu Hanifa, Imam Shafi, Imam Malik, Ahmed Ibn Ambal, May Allah bless them all.

00:48:30.640 They were great scholars. They never gave fatwas to bring divisions. They came to explain the deen.

00:48:38.060 So if there's a difference in analysis of fiqh, it's more than 90% are same. 0.97

00:48:44.240 In the 10% what they differ 0.72

00:48:46.460 This

00:48:46.900 You may be 5% more correct

00:48:48.820 7%

00:48:49.360 So

00:48:49.900 All of them are 92 to 98% correct

00:48:52.740 And the difference is not a minor issue

00:48:55.740 Not a major issue

00:48:56.500 Right

00:48:56.880 Whether it is

00:48:57.860 Which is preferable

00:48:58.780 Where you keep your hand down or top

00:49:00.160 Okay I will do research

00:49:01.140 I will follow

00:49:02.180 But I will not give a talk

00:49:03.020 Where to keep the hand

00:49:03.660 I will give a talk of pray

00:49:05.020 Right

00:49:05.640 You should pray

00:49:06.340 I will not give a talk

00:49:07.100 Where to keep your hand

00:49:07.760 Whether you do Rafatain or not

00:49:08.820 I am very particular 0.94

00:49:10.620 I am very strict in following

00:49:11.700 I will wear the toes above the ankle

00:49:13.160 Correct

00:49:13.420 But if someone defers wearing is not a major sin, I will not fight over that.

00:49:18.220 I am very strict in my research.

00:49:19.920 And I follow Arunchi to convince me it's difficult.

00:49:22.940 Correct?

00:49:23.500 But if the difference, no scholar said, no imam said,

00:49:27.380 if you don't keep your hand on top, your salah won't be accepted.

00:49:31.200 Or you don't do Rafatain.

00:49:32.340 So these are minor issues.

00:49:33.960 I want plus points, I'll do research.

00:49:35.660 But I don't give a talk on that.

00:49:36.660 I'll give a talk on you should pray.

00:49:39.200 So you should try and win.

00:49:40.200 So that is the reason.

00:49:41.160 the reason that the audience is large

00:49:43.540 I don't believe in getting disunity

00:49:45.760 like in India, there are many sects in Islam

00:49:48.120 and there were some people, some scholars

00:49:50.120 dais, used to speak

00:49:52.100 against me, literally abused me

00:49:53.500 so when we have the conference

00:49:55.960 we have the largest conference in the world

00:49:57.440 in one of the conference I called a person

00:49:59.640 who is against me, who literally

00:50:01.820 abuses me in public, I call him to give

00:50:03.820 lecture on my stage, people are

00:50:05.960 shocked, I said how come

00:50:07.920 I said see there is no verse in the Quran

00:50:09.440 or hadith which says, if you speak again Dr. Zakir you will not go to Jannah. I don't

00:50:14.300 really know this. He is speaking on Allah and his Rasul, I will call him. He is speaking 0.97

00:50:19.660 against me, no problem. Because there is no voice in the Quran that says, if you speak

00:50:23.440 again Dr. Zakir you will not go to Jannah. I call him. And once he comes on my stage,

00:50:27.560 on my stage also he speaks against me. Then he becomes my fan. Disunity gone. And if someone

00:50:34.640 abuses me, does it make a difference to me? In fact in my Akhirat is better, I get plus

00:50:39.440 points if someone abuses me falsely I get his good deeds correct so if you we people

00:50:46.340 should not be what will happen to my image today you know what will happen if

00:50:50.000 he's abusing me so we should rather get unity so in this way when we started in

00:50:53.900 India we are the largest conference so we call when we call people we call

00:50:57.660 Hanafi, Shafi, Humbli, Malki, Salafi and on of course we have a limitation 0.72

00:51:01.880 we won't call those who are completely we feel are gone out you know but these

00:51:06.080 small differences and not enough to agree with it so when you what am i said 0.96

00:51:11.020 caller in the museum the verse i quoted to you which says you should be a die

00:51:15.740 in the ending what it says woman has to call him in the oil of all you call in 0.94

00:51:21.200 the muslim say that i'm a muslim so the best person is one who calls people to

00:51:25.880 allah does righteousness and say my muslim so there are umteen number of

00:51:30.560 places where allah says call yourself a muslim

00:51:33.080 If someone calls himself a 100% Shafi, no problem.

00:51:37.080 Because he is saying that I am not a scholar,

00:51:40.080 I am just following the teachings of one Imam, no problem.

00:51:43.080 There is no issue.

00:51:45.080 Right.

00:51:46.080 But what did Prophet Muhammad Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam, what did he...

00:51:49.080 That's something.

00:51:50.080 See, he, he, he followed Quran and Sunnah.

00:51:53.080 Exactly.

00:51:54.080 Later on, these Ahimahs are great scholars. 0.97

00:51:56.080 Because after the Prophet passed away,

00:51:58.080 there were differences in interpreting the Hadith,

00:52:00.080 understanding the Quran.

00:52:02.080 And the differences are minor. These four great ayammas or if you follow any one of them, inshallah, you will go to Jannah.

00:52:08.080 Correct? Now the differences is not all say pray five times, all say give charity, all say zakhaat.

00:52:13.080 The difference may be, you know, okay, if you do this, you will get 0.1% extra. Correct?

00:52:18.080 Everyone says pray, whether you keep your hand on top or down, do research, but that's all.

00:52:23.080 Because I want to score very high. First you pass the exam, if you are not praying, you will fail.

00:52:28.080 So if you want to enter into a medical college in India, I would require more than 95 percent.

00:52:33.080 So to get 80 marks is very easy. After that 80 to 90 is difficult.

00:52:37.080 After 90, every 1 percent is difficult. After 95, every 0.1 percent is difficult.

00:52:42.080 You understand? So first you pass the exam.

00:52:45.080 So because we want a very high, so we will be very particular in the research.

00:52:49.080 But these are small differences.

00:52:51.080 So once you start getting people together of different schools of thought,

00:52:55.080 and the Muslims, and different races, then you'll find the unity.

00:52:58.580 And then we wouldn't be kicked around like a football.

00:53:01.080 Now we have been kicked around. If we unite, then we won't be.

00:53:04.580 We could be the kicker, the kickers.

00:53:06.580 Yes. Not, we won't kick. We'll win them all.

00:53:09.580 We'll win them all. We'll be the protectors.

00:53:11.580 The coach or the referee.

00:53:12.580 We don't like kicking. We like, okay, you come.

00:53:14.580 Exactly.

00:53:15.080 You come, play with us.

00:53:16.580 That's when the unity works.

00:53:18.580 That's the reason we always, we always pray that, you know, 0.70

00:53:21.580 See, if you see the Prophet, when the two Umar were there, who were against Islam, so Prophet prayed to Allah, let one Umar accept Islam, and Umar bin Khatab accepted. So that's how I used to say that, you know, that man has to give lectures, and George Bush and Tony Blair, so that man, Allah, give us that to one.

00:53:38.580 Once I ever talk in UK, in the early 2000s, talk on unity. And one of these people who are, you know, the most militant Muslims, they get up and say, mashallah, very good lecture, death to George Bush, death to Donny Blin, full talk of my gun. 0.95

00:53:56.120 So I give a talk on winning the non-Muslims. Now this person say, mashallah, Dr. Dakin, very good, death to George Bush, death to Donny Blin. Then I say, no, no, this is not it. I say, give the bidaya, correct? 0.86

00:54:07.160 So I also say that Mellah give his head to Trump or give his head to Netanyahu, you know, so nothing better. 0.80

00:54:14.160 What is the difference between giving Dawa to Hindus, which you seem to be an expert in, and Christians? 0.87

00:54:21.160 See, I think the strategies of the Quran is the same. But people know more of the Bible.

00:54:27.160 So to give Dawa to a Christian becomes easier. People don't know much about the scriptures of the Hindus. 0.75

00:54:32.160 of the Hinduism because there are many dais who have worked including Sheikh Ahmad Deidat

00:54:36.840 have given talks on Islam and Christianity. Very few dais have given talks on Islam and

00:54:41.400 Hinduism. The first time when I gave a talk, similarities between Islam and Hinduism, there

00:54:46.340 was fatwa against me. Dr. Zakir Naik is saying the similarities between Islam and Hinduism,

00:54:50.920 impossible. In Dubai, they took out a protest against me. I said, at least listen to my

00:54:56.160 talk. After I give the talk, if I have said one thing wrong is Quran so now I can catch 0.98

00:55:00.600 my collar. And I gave a talk, proving that even they talk about Tawheed and giving all 0.54

00:55:04.980 references in Sanskrit. So there aren't many talks on Islam and Hinduism.

00:55:10.940 Where you said that they talk about Tawheed and Hinduism?

00:55:13.060 Of course. No, they don't.

00:55:14.060 No, almost, not Hinduism, almost all religions. All religions, Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism, 0.90

00:55:20.560 Parsiism, Sikhism, all of them talk about Tawheed. And that's what the Quran says.

00:55:25.100 Really? 0.91

00:55:26.100 so after the scriptures got corrupted all scriptures except the quran got corrupted

00:55:30.740 but there are two major points i had that all scriptures about tawhid and about muhammad so

00:55:36.100 all the script the all the religions if you read the scripture somewhere or the other it's mentioned

00:55:41.860 about tawhid and even mentioned about the coming of prophet muhammad what does it say in hinduism

00:55:48.500 about the coming of prophet muhammad about the prophecy of muhammad multiple times more than the

00:55:53.300 the bible more than the bible the bible is mentioned by name once right the bible is mentioned

00:55:58.900 by name once in in hindu scriptures more than 100 times you mentioned my name 100 times

00:56:03.300 by name by name prophecies are more than that few hundred so i've given a talk

00:56:08.180 on prophet muhammad peace be upon him mentioned in in the hindu scriptures in one of the one of

00:56:13.460 the kalki purana chapter 2 verse number 5 7 11 14 15 17 it even says that his mother's name

00:56:23.300 would be Aminah. Father's name would be Abdullah. It says Vishnu, yes. If you translate it, it would be Abdullah. He'll be born in the city of peace, that is Makkah. He'll be born in the family of the chief of the city of Makkah. He'll have four close companions. He will fight again with the devil. He'll have angels. You don't find in the Bible all this.

00:56:43.420 No.

00:56:44.420 So, but the problem is people did not do much research on the Hindu scriptures.

00:56:49.420 So Sheikh Dida told me that, son, I've done a lot of Christianity.

00:56:52.420 Why don't you study Hinduism?

00:56:54.420 So that's what, you know, he inspired me to study on Hindu scriptures.

00:56:57.420 Then we did part of the scriptures and the other scripture.

00:57:00.420 And that's how now we're giving talks on comparative religion.

00:57:03.420 What is the mention of the prophet in the Bible that says that there will be one that will come 400 years later, Ahmed?

00:57:10.420 Yes, yes, many places.

00:57:12.420 My name is mentioned in the Song of Solomon, Chapter 5, verse number 16.

00:57:17.820 Hikko muhammad hakim vikulli muhammadim zaidu di zara wa jane zaistim ubayna jala salam.

00:57:23.540 The word there is muhammadim.

00:57:25.300 In the Semitic languages, you add him for respect, like elo for Allah, elo him for respect.

00:57:31.000 So for Muhammad, that is muhammadim.

00:57:32.720 But in the translation, they write, he is altogether lovely.

00:57:35.600 So he mentioned my name.

00:57:37.140 Otherwise, references, he is mentioned in the Old Testament and New Testament.

00:57:42.020 The most powerful is the book of Deuteronomy chapter, chapter number 18 verse number 18.

00:57:46.300 I can quote, that will take two hours.

00:57:48.300 Deuteronomy chapter 18 verse number 19, they say.

00:57:51.220 Then there's book of Isaiah chapter number 12 verse number 29.

00:57:54.200 Then in the New Testament, Gospel of John chapter 14 verse 16, Gospel of John chapter

00:57:58.180 15 verse 26, Gospel of John chapter number 16 verse number 7, Gospel of John chapter

00:58:01.960 17 verse number 11 to 14.

00:58:04.440 The last one, I have many things to say unto you, Jesus Christ, please bear to me and say,

00:58:07.900 I have many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.

00:58:10.800 even the spirit of truth shall come he shall guide you into all truth he shall not speak of himself

00:58:15.200 all that year shall he speak so each reference you can speak for 10 minutes 20 minutes half an hour

00:58:20.080 so i've given a separate talk on muhammad in the bible and there i mentioned many prophecies

00:58:25.600 from the old testament from the new testament

00:58:30.000 i do you have some questions as well i wanted yeah well i mean talking about hindu scriptures

00:58:34.880 we had an experience yesterday where you want to ask him about that but you know where we so

00:58:39.360 basically i'm just wondering what the major difference is about how to give dawah to them

00:58:43.960 so you said that the hindus for example they don't know the scriptures as well christians

00:58:47.500 don't know the bible better but is there really that much of a difference in speaking to them

00:58:51.160 because hindus they'll believe in that there's three billion gods yes three three billion gods

00:58:55.340 three what 33 330 million that's what i heard but he said three billion so he got it wrong he

00:59:00.500 doesn't even know how many gods he believes you see when you quote enough even i tell i'll give

00:59:03.860 reference some people just say anything and they exaggerate so when you I tell

00:59:08.540 the people be exact for example there is one of the gods Krishna I don't say a

00:59:13.040 thousands of words he had 16,108 so when I say 16,108 exact number and I give the

00:59:19.640 reference to where it is mentioned this person is authentic so people

00:59:23.360 sometimes exaggerate now why do you want to exaggerate when the scripture says

00:59:27.560 330 million why have to say a million so some of the people they don't

00:59:31.640 remember. They don't remember how many gods they believe in? No, no, no. Some of the

00:59:35.120 dais, when they criticize or when they, you should be exact. He wasn't a dais, he was

00:59:41.140 a Hindu. Oh, Hindu. No, no, Hindus. No, see, that is, they may believe unlimited, they're 0.99

00:59:46.060 different. But the scripture mentions 330 million. You understand, the scripture. So

00:59:50.320 there's three main, like a trinity for that. Yes, correct. Krishna, Vishnu, and another

00:59:54.160 one. And Shiva. And the main one he was saying was the god of destruction. Shiva, Shiva.

00:59:58.140 But overall, is there a major difference in communication or do you find it easier?

01:00:02.260 See, the strategy is the same, the methodology is same, but the information is different.

01:00:09.460 For example, the master key for Dawah, Surah Imran, chapter 3, verse 64,

01:00:15.900 come to common terms as in the starting of the verse, meaning the Christian, come to

01:00:24.440 common terms has been asking you so always when you talk come to comment 0.89

01:00:29.660 don't talk about differences if I take the Bible if I take the for I attack the

01:00:34.040 Hindu scripture what benefit is for me so talk about the similarity so if I can 0.54

01:00:38.960 give a talk of 2,000 similarities I can give a talk of 4,000 different so how do

01:00:42.620 you talk about this correct that's it then you do research correct so in

01:00:46.400 sister and among the similarities Allah says which is the most important Allah

01:00:50.540 that you worship them but allah so while talking about similarities because interest in science

01:00:55.860 you can start with science but your main focus should be tawhid so i tell a dhai you can start

01:01:01.100 with the refill if he likes sports to start with sports if he likes literature starts with literature

01:01:05.320 but your main focus should be tawhid you may convince him to be a good person be charitable

01:01:09.880 you may convince him that not to have poor not have alcohol but if i don't take away the shirk 0.51

01:01:14.520 from his life now is useless if that non-muslim whether hindu or christian leave poor leaves 0.56

01:01:20.040 alcohol so i can talk other things but my main focus should be tawhid and then talking about 0.93

01:01:30.040 so when i start the hour i will not directly jump to god i may talk about what he likes

01:01:34.120 oh he likes science so quran speaks about big man quran speaks about that so for a christian

01:01:39.560 it's easy because we know many speakers talking about the bible and bible in volume may be

01:01:45.080 approximately three times more than the Quran in terms of volume.

01:01:48.080 Hindu scriptures are hundreds of times, voluminous.

01:01:53.080 So it's difficult to read everything. The Bible to read is easy. 1.00

01:01:56.080 So what I tell, so when we have Dava training program,

01:02:00.080 we don't tell them to read the full Bible.

01:02:02.080 We tell, we make them memorize certain verses.

01:02:06.080 These 15 are the most important, then 15.

01:02:08.080 Then this 150 verses we memorize, we can debate with the Pope also.

01:02:11.080 So what we do, we do a research what the Christian missionaries use

01:02:15.080 to convince the Muslims to accept Islam, that's Christianity, we take them out and memorize them.

01:02:25.080 What verses they use to prove Jesus is God, we memorize them. 0.98

01:02:29.080 Then what verses are required to do Dawah? Hardly 150, 200. 0.80

01:02:33.080 Once you master them, they will come and tell you, you know, Jesus Christ said,

01:02:37.080 I am my father of one. Oh, you're quoting the Gospel of John chapter 10, verse 30.

01:02:42.080 He's shocked. He knows the verse, he doesn't know the reference.

01:02:44.080 So when the Christian missionary comes and says,

01:02:46.080 Judge Jesus, peace be upon him, said, I am my father a one.

01:02:49.080 Oh, so you are quoting Gospel of John chapter 10, verse 30.

01:02:51.080 He is shocked. He is not trained to give references.

01:02:54.080 So when he is quoting his Bible, 1.00

01:02:56.080 as a Muslim wearing a cap and a beard, 1.00

01:02:58.080 I quote his Bible, half the battle is won.

01:03:01.080 He is shocked.

01:03:02.080 He is saying, what is this person? I am quoting the Bible.

01:03:04.080 He is giving the reference. Then I give the context.

01:03:06.080 You are quoting out of context. Where is the context?

01:03:08.080 Context starts from Gospel of John chapter 10, verse 22.

01:03:12.080 number 22 when jesus gets peace upon him enters the temple of solomon so he's shocked he only

01:03:18.400 knows that one verse i'm telling him few verses afterwards and few verses later wait what is the

01:03:23.040 context of that statement i i'm the father one oh you want the context okay everything yeah yeah

01:03:27.040 it's true i think we'll take time i have time so the thing is that see they say i am my father

01:03:31.680 one time to prove that jesus christ came divinity so if you read the context from verse number 22

01:03:36.320 gospel of john chapter 10 it says that jesus christ entered the temple of temple of solomon

01:03:43.040 on the porch and the jews surrounded him and they asked him that if die out if thou art the christ

01:03:52.000 tell us plainly so jesus christ if thou are the christ tell us plainly tell us plainly

01:03:58.560 So he said, I told you, but you know me not. For those who follow me, they know me, they

01:04:07.740 follow me and they obey me. And the work that I do speaks about my father. So now he's

01:04:13.800 giving the context. He's giving the context that you don't know me, but my followers know

01:04:22.140 me those who know me they believe me they follow me and they obey me then verse number 27 my father

01:04:32.620 is greater than all my father who give it to me is greater than all they change that

01:04:38.940 so saying well one is like one message i'll come to it once i come to verse 30 will come from me

01:04:45.020 so he says that the father who gives it to me is greater than all

01:04:49.740 And then he says, I and my Father are one. That means he's telling, Father, talking about God, I and my God are one in purpose. He says that no man can plug them out of my hand. Verse number 27, Jesus Christ says, no man can plug them out of my hand. My Father who give it to me is greater than all. No man can plug them out of my Father's hand.

01:05:11.740 He's talking about the disciples. I and my father are one. He's talking about in purpose in delivering the message of God. You understand? So if I say I and my father are one, my father is a medical doctor, I am a medical doctor. If I say I and my father are one, doesn't mean that we are one human being.

01:05:28.740 For one purpose.

01:05:29.500 Yeah, one.

01:05:30.900 And medical doctors.

01:05:32.300 Correct?

01:05:32.840 Yeah.

01:05:33.300 So here, okay.

01:05:34.580 It doesn't end there.

01:05:35.940 Then, then verse number 31 says, 0.90

01:05:38.500 the Jews pick up stone to stone him.

01:05:41.080 When he says, I am my father, I am one. 0.58

01:05:42.820 So he says, for which of the works do you stone me? 0.98

01:05:46.080 So the Jews reply, you claim to be God. 1.00

01:05:50.040 The Jews are telling. 0.80

01:05:51.080 They also misunderstood that Jesus is living divinity. 0.78

01:05:53.560 Verse number 33 says, it is mentioned in the scripture,

01:05:56.440 the person to whom the word has come is called as God, ye are gods. So he is telling that

01:06:03.440 the person who the word has come, God means small God. So he is a person of God. So he

01:06:09.440 is trying to say that in purpose we are same, not as one entity. And then furthermore,

01:06:16.440 if you see in Gospel of John chapter 17, Jesus Christ, peace be upon him, says to his disciples,

01:06:21.440 which is you and me, we are one. Same one is used here. So does it mean that there are 13 Gods?

01:06:28.940 Based off that, the disciples would also be God.

01:06:31.440 Yes. So we have to give context. So we have question and answer session which we encourage.

01:06:36.440 Normally in religious lectures, when a person gives a lecture, it doesn't enter in question and answer session.

01:06:41.940 Because that is the best part to know how much knowledgeable the speaker is.

01:06:46.440 You can memorize any talk, any book, and vomit it out. Correct?

01:06:50.240 The best is question and session. And in the question and session, when you give quotation, the battle is won.

01:06:55.440 What's interesting is basically the Christians who are using that to claim Jesus is divine, 0.86

01:07:00.440 they're making the same mistake that the Jews made when they thought that... 1.00

01:07:03.440 Correct. 1.00

01:07:04.440 The Jews that stoned or tried to stone Jesus there are making the same mistake that the Christians are making today. 1.00

01:07:09.440 Correct. 1.00

01:07:10.440 Wow. And what about they say, Jesus says, I am the way, the truth, and the...

01:07:14.440 Okay, this is from Gospel of John chapter 14, verse number 6.

01:07:18.140 Okay.

01:07:19.140 You quoted, I'm giving the reference.

01:07:20.800 Yeah.

01:07:21.100 So this is the training.

01:07:22.120 Sorry, one more time.

01:07:23.300 I'll study later.

01:07:24.240 I don't want to repeat.

01:07:25.160 I said, you said, you told me.

01:07:27.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:07:27.300 As you said, I'm the greatest within my life.

01:07:29.780 So I said this reference is of Gospel of John chapter 14, verse number 6.

01:07:34.480 14, verse number 6.

01:07:35.620 I'm giving the reference of what you quoted.

01:07:37.160 Yeah, yeah.

01:07:37.720 Gospel of John chapter 14, verse 6.

01:07:41.620 For context, go to verse number 1.

01:07:44.080 Yeah. And I am the way, the truth and the life you tell me. Correct. So verse number one says that in my father's house, in my father's house are many mentions. You see, I am going there, I am going there to prepare a place for you.

01:08:01.080 who Jesus Christ is telling the disciples now. Okay. If you love God, if you love me also,

01:08:09.340 that if you have trust in God, trust me also. I am going to prepare a place for you.

01:08:13.760 So Thomas asks and he says, you know where I go? Thomas says, we don't know where you go.

01:08:19.600 Thomas is saying to Jesus, we don't know where you are going. Then he says, I am the way,

01:08:24.860 the truth and the life. No man cometh unto the Father but through me. Now in all religions,

01:08:31.080 Even in Islam, the messenger at that time was the truth, the way and the life. No man came to God but through the messenger. So at the time of Moses, Moses, peace be upon him, was the way, the truth and the life. No man came to God but through Moses. At the time of Jesus, so we agree with that 100%.

01:08:47.660 At the time of Jesus case, peace be upon him. Jesus was the way, the truth and the life. No man came to God but through Jesus peace be upon him. At the time of Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam, Muhammad sallallahu alayhi wa sallam. So we agree with him. It's not wrong. So he's the way and the truth. That doesn't make him God. That makes him a person of God. Makes him a messenger of God.

01:09:06.780 That's unbeatable. I think the important thing you keep reiterating is that when you

01:09:17.380 memorize a script, you study their gameplay, did their gameplay in the same way Mike Tyson

01:09:21.960 is watching his opponent before he gets in there and you get to study all the moves and

01:09:27.020 so you know what's going to come there.

01:09:28.280 Correct. So in our training, what we do, all the famous missions, what they quote,

01:09:32.780 memorized. So when they come, we are prepared. Not that I'm Hafizul Bible. I don't know the

01:09:37.640 Bible by heart. But I know what they're going to speak. So people think I'm Hafizul Bible.

01:09:41.780 I'm not Hafizul Bible. I don't know the full Bible by heart. But I know those verses which

01:09:45.960 are important for them. Does anybody know the Bible by heart? I don't think so. I don't

01:09:48.540 think there's one Bible Hafiz. No, no. I don't think it exists. Even Sheikh Di Dhar

01:09:51.940 doesn't know the Bible by heart. Sorry. Do you ever find it difficult as a personal

01:09:55.500 question, with dealing with the disbelievers and the kafir and the enemies of Islam, does 1.00

01:10:01.360 your dean get corrupted communicating with these people because right now this is a form of hither

01:10:06.820 in a way going to malaysia and i'm way more at peace around the muslims but i'm from new york 0.82

01:10:11.920 and there's physical attacks there's mental attacks there's people constant there's evil eye

01:10:16.780 and you get pulled away from the dean and it's it's your fault but the difference between your

01:10:23.000 ramadan when you're in medina mecca around the believers and then back home in the land of the

01:10:27.980 disbelievers it's very it's the polar opposites and you having dealt with all 0.94

01:10:33.980 these people how do you protect your iman from the people that want to destroy

01:10:39.200 it see that's very important number one you should realize that for a day see 0.53

01:10:45.620 for a normal muslim playing playing fight and this but for the Prophet six 0.53

01:10:49.820 time was fun even the tajud so how'd your prayer you didn't sleep much

01:10:54.500 just sat three hours at night and then woke up for night prayer.

01:10:57.060 The exact azim not mentioned, but he used to sleep less.

01:10:59.420 Because azim is very sleepless. 0.98

01:11:01.460 The Quran says he used to stand up and pray one third of the night, 0.62

01:11:04.280 sometime half the night, sometime two third of the night.

01:11:06.700 That's what the Quran says.

01:11:07.900 So now we have to understand that for a day,

01:11:10.040 I tell him that even praying tahajud is important.

01:11:12.920 That's the time in tahajud, you pray in the last one third of night,

01:11:16.400 as much as you can with half an hour,

01:11:17.680 one hour, two hour, four hour, five hour, as much as you can.

01:11:19.540 You pray tahajud every night?

01:11:20.580 Yes. 0.97

01:11:21.900 MashaAllah.

01:11:22.980 You too?

01:11:24.100 MashaAllah.

01:11:24.500 it's not a fault but it's for me i made it a fun on me and and the more we pray better you know one

01:11:30.740 hour two or three so depending upon you know so and in all the activities in the day the maximum

01:11:36.900 i've spent time is on salah on average about five and a half hours in a day if i count all the five

01:11:41.140 salas five and a half hours every day for you totally in a day i mean counting the salas i

01:11:44.980 go for the salad about half an hour five and a half every day i thought salah supposed to be

01:11:49.300 30 minutes about in total is what you do are the extra prayers. No, no, no, no, you can finish

01:11:55.820 in 30 minutes easily, but if you do the extra prayers, total 54 I can give the breakdown. And plus,

01:12:00.680 I confirm that I made a voodoo, I go down and come up. So each salami takes 30 minutes. And then 0.97

01:12:05.680 the taajud, of course, average two hours, sometimes three hours, sometimes four hours,

01:12:08.440 sometimes five hours in the night. So the more you do, it's better it is. So now to protect

01:12:13.000 yourself, you should be realized that especially people like you who are celebrities. Number one,

01:12:18.400 And sometimes the fame comes to your head.

01:12:22.380 The fame gets the better of you.

01:12:24.340 The fame.

01:12:26.260 So for celebrities, we should always remind them that the Satan is trying to target those

01:12:32.400 who are more successful in their deen. 0.99

01:12:35.960 So I pray to Allah every night that please save me from the Satan, from the Shaitan, 1.00

01:12:42.680 from tempting. 1.00

01:12:43.680 That's my number one.

01:12:44.680 So that's we remember our great school Ahmed ibn Humbal Mella, we had large audiences, thousands, at that time thousands is great.

01:12:51.680 So once a large audience come and he says, wow, what a large audience. The moment the thought came, he closed his book and didn't give the talk.

01:12:59.680 You know, so that to kill his, to kill his ego. And it happened with us when you see, you know, like I remember when I was young, one of my magistrates, the largest gathered with 12,000 people in Birmingham.

01:13:10.680 So my aim was to get 12,000 people. I am talking about myself. When I was young, oh, I want to get 80th gold medal in sports. You know, then Allah, mean me a long distance, 10 kilometer, Allah, I got a gold medal. Then I say, Sheikh Gita, okay, Sheikh Gita, largest audience in Birmingham, 12,000. That's my target. But that's nothing. So that becomes the immediate target. But then when we get more experience, these are, these are not a milestone. The milestone is to please Allah.

01:13:35.800 So coming back to it, when you are doing Dawa, there may be times when people may put difficult questions to you.

01:13:42.800 And there are times that you may feel like, oh, what's happened, you know, it may even question your Iman.

01:13:48.800 So number one, you should always have people around you, also in consultation with you, that if such questions are put, you should know someone who is close to you who can reply.

01:14:00.800 can reply. Sometimes it is very dangerous. While doing dhava especially now in the age

01:14:05.460 of atheism you know there are debate going on and they may attack certain questions and

01:14:10.720 of course there are certain questions which when I pose like when I came across I pose

01:14:14.720 many of the Muslims we put to. Of course we do not tell that in public. We only talk to

01:14:18.560 scholars about that you know. So you while doing dhava you should have someone who you

01:14:23.620 should be in the company or you know who knowledgeable who can help you in this situation 1.00

01:14:27.560 Or it can take you out of the fold of Islam. 1.00

01:14:31.120 You understand, no?

01:14:31.800 Because you're in the limelight and everyone is there

01:14:33.920 and they're trying to attack you.

01:14:34.760 And they may say something which may sound very long.

01:14:37.440 And I've got...

01:14:38.080 So my main speciality is now

01:14:39.820 that when I have the weekly questionnaire session,

01:14:42.140 I have a questionnaire session,

01:14:43.320 ask Dr. Zakir twice a month.

01:14:47.020 So first and third side I handle.

01:14:50.020 Second and fourth my son handle.

01:14:51.380 Ask Dr. Zakir.

01:14:52.260 So we get about 20,000 questions in a week.

01:14:55.380 out of that my staff doesn't read all

01:14:57.860 they may read four five thousand they give me hundred questions

01:15:00.200 from that answer about twenty

01:15:01.620 so I pick up those questions

01:15:03.480 which are mainly

01:15:05.140 not on not on sick

01:15:07.960 how to pray and all that everyone is doing 0.54

01:15:09.480 on those questions which attack Islam logically

01:15:12.160 for example

01:15:13.500 Allah has in me game

01:15:15.960 he has knowledge 1.00

01:15:17.400 if Allah has all the knowledge then why are you 0.98

01:15:19.820 why are you asking dua 0.99

01:15:21.060 Allah knows a logical question 0.93

01:15:23.120 Correct. If Allah knows what sin you have, why should you ask? Allah should give you the asking. 0.54

01:15:28.120 Free logic. So these are questions which answers are not there in the book of fiqh. 0.91

01:15:33.120 It's not the religious book. It's about mental. It's about logic. 0.90

01:15:37.120 So I'm more involved in picking up those questions which are attacking the deen logically, scientifically.

01:15:44.120 So that's my speciality. One is compared to religion. We did that. 0.66

01:15:47.120 Because these questions may not come in general public.

01:15:50.120 so when we get 20 000 questions we select those which are difficult questions

01:15:54.200 so how to reply to them is a different art so when you're doing dawah there may be times when

01:15:59.400 someone may take out something some mistake in the quran which which maybe the ground will be

01:16:05.000 taken away from your feet it has happened for me if someone asks a question against islam i don't

01:16:10.680 go to sleep until i get the answer that's my that's my nature so i remember in the early days of my

01:16:16.600 Dawa so out of the question till I don't get the answer I'll not sleep. Of course now I'm getting

01:16:22.120 experience meeting so many people so all these questions have become in thousands and also

01:16:26.600 Allah helps us so therefore if you're doing Dawa and so you should always be in touch

01:16:31.320 with good company fine you may have your other friends but especially for Dawa you should be in

01:16:36.840 the company of knowledgeable people you should have contacts you should have the phone number

01:16:40.600 it should not be that suddenly you get you know off guard and then it has happened many times 0.96

01:16:45.080 Many of the daiths, they're good, but they're caught on the wrong foot and it becomes a disaster. 1.00

01:16:53.920 So keep people of knowledge around you. 1.00

01:16:56.660 Always keep people better than you and who are more Islamic in your company. 1.00

01:17:03.200 As the Prophet said, Hadith, that if you're in the company of a coal smith, then you'll get the coal on your shirt on your hand. 1.00

01:17:09.960 If you're in the company of a perfume, a person who's selling perfume.

01:17:13.260 You're going to smell like that.

01:17:14.100 I know you had a lot more

01:17:17.080 I wanted to ask you

01:17:18.780 what do you believe the dawah scene is missing today

01:17:21.020 from your experience

01:17:22.640 it's not missing

01:17:23.560 it is there

01:17:25.680 but of course it should be better

01:17:28.260 dawah is not missing

01:17:29.580 what can be better

01:17:31.660 from the dawah that you see today

01:17:33.660 what can be better

01:17:34.980 see now because of science and technology

01:17:37.440 the

01:17:39.060 core

01:17:40.600 core of materialism

01:17:43.020 is the same

01:17:43.960 but the medium may change. See, number one, another number of profit is direct dava. That's

01:17:50.340 it. Direct dava can be of three types broadly. One is one to one, one is giving a group,

01:17:55.240 one is giving a lecture in public, like that number of profit. The one to one is the most

01:17:59.580 effective. I'll just give an example. If I speak, suppose a person is a very expert

01:18:04.080 guy and he speaks two hours with a non-Muslim, 10 different non-Muslims. If he's a very 1.00

01:18:09.300 expert good guy, maybe he'll convince one. It's not possible to convince me 10 Muslims. 1.00

01:18:13.120 this is all nonsense some people say okay I can convert a person in 10 this is all nonsense.

01:18:17.360 But if he is a very good guy if he speaks 2 hours with 10 different individuals 20 hours

01:18:22.100 if he is very good maybe he will convince 1 correct so the effectiveness is 10 percent.

01:18:27.640 If he is giving a talk in a group of 100 people correct maybe he will convince 2 people in

01:18:32.400 that one talk of so the effectiveness is 2 percent.

01:18:36.020 But here in 10 hours, he is convincing 1%. Here if you give 10 lectures, he is converting

01:18:45.620 20 people. But effectiveness is 2%. Out of 100, 2 accepting Islam. Here the effectiveness

01:18:51.780 is 10%. So 1 to 1 dava, the effectiveness is more, but the reach is less. You understand?

01:18:59.200 is 10%, 10%, why? Then if you are giving a group, effectiveness is 2%, but the time

01:19:06.840 required is less. So in their 20 hours, I am convincing 1%, effectiveness is 10%. In

01:19:13.080 group, effectiveness is 2%, but in 10 hours, I am convincing 20 people. Correct? If I am

01:19:19.520 doing a public lecture, 1,000 people, maybe 5 will accept it. Effectiveness is 0.5%.

01:19:26.200 Maybe not immediately, but the ideas and the knowledge stays with them.

01:19:30.600 No, I'm saying hypothetically. Yes, that's different. One is, he hears my lecture,

01:19:35.320 that's different. I'm not talking about generally, just a hypothetical situation.

01:19:38.760 Right.

01:19:39.260 That a person doesn't know about Islam, to convince him it was difficult, but someone

01:19:42.920 is an expert. 0.99

01:19:43.640 Right.

01:19:44.200 So, effectiveness one-to-one is more, but as the audience keeps on increasing, reach

01:19:49.400 increases, effectiveness decreases. But I would prefer giving lecture in public, I convince

01:19:53.160 more. So you keep the one-to-one for celebrities.

01:19:56.200 Because one president or a king or a prime minister is equal to 1000 people.

01:20:01.440 So I would not want to convince a person like I will call the king in a public, come in

01:20:06.020 a public lecture and you will hear my lecture.

01:20:07.440 So effectiveness is 0.5% there.

01:20:09.480 I prefer calling one to one because if I convince him as well I am convincing 1000.

01:20:13.800 You understand na?

01:20:14.800 So the prophet also spoke to the head of the profile, one to one, you understand na?

01:20:18.440 So now when you go to media, when you go to media on the Facebook, we are having more

01:20:25.360 people 100,000 1 million 10 million on the satellite 100 million their

01:20:31.000 effectiveness is 0.001% but the reach is to 100 million or 100 million or 1

01:20:35.320 million you understand so effectiveness goes down but the reach increases net

01:20:40.660 result is better on the media so therefore previously I have to meet

01:20:43.720 everyone individually when I was starting but as the demand keeps on

01:20:46.780 increasing I meet one to one less but I would love to meet but I cannot if I

01:20:52.580 start meeting everyone one to one who want to meet me even if I have in a day a thousand hours I

01:20:57.380 cannot meet everyone correct so then we call them to Putrajaya mosque there in just five minutes I

01:21:02.780 meet about five hundred people after the mosque people come on because I cannot refuse you understand

01:21:07.240 then some people come to this mosque after I meet for two minutes some people like we have called

01:21:11.280 them 100 minutes spending hours also you understand so effectiveness is more one to one but that but

01:21:16.420 the reach becomes less so same thing media now coming back to your question media we have to

01:21:21.100 utilize media. But I cannot say I will target my media with the president. No. On the way

01:21:26.280 in the group, if he hears and accepts, Alhamdulillah. But if someone is going to give me a time

01:21:31.260 I can speak to this president or this prime minister one to one, how do you prefer I'll

01:21:35.520 call him for the lecture. If he's giving two hours, I will say one to one is better. Why

01:21:39.160 lecture? You understand? One to one the effectiveness is 10%. In the group, 2%. In a lecture, 0.1%.

01:21:49.600 the on the social media point zero zero but the reach is so much so now we have three types of

01:21:56.000 training one is we have a school where we train for 15 years how to become a dai right from nurseries

01:22:01.200 and h3 to a levels then then we have other training program which is for 45 days and the

01:22:07.760 best is peace tv millions are watching but the effectiveness dies i get so many i just two days

01:22:15.280 back someone gave me send me a video of the sunnah guy and I heard of him so he

01:22:20.800 got inspired by my toy so there are every time which every day how many

01:22:24.280 accepting Islam we don't know times hundreds every day in a talk I can't do

01:22:28.480 that one to one I cannot so because of my satellite and the media every day

01:22:31.660 hundreds accepting Islam every day Alhamdulillah and how many Muslims are 1.00

01:22:35.800 becoming died hundreds even if it's our training program how can I train them 1.00

01:22:40.240 You understand, no? And the material is there. If he wants to search it, you have to waste

01:22:45.120 me. You have to waste my time. He searches, okay, this lecture, that lecture. There are

01:22:50.480 a few hundred lectures of mine. So, how to download them? So, all are important. Book

01:22:56.580 is important. Video is important. Internet is important. Social media is important. Each

01:23:00.660 one has its own pros and cons. I cannot say, now I have become popular, say I have not

01:23:05.000 We didn't want one-to-one.

01:23:05.760 One-to-one is also important.

01:23:07.340 So depending upon who you are meeting,

01:23:10.200 what is the effectiveness,

01:23:11.600 I would prefer one-to-one

01:23:12.640 than ask him to watch my video. 0.97

01:23:14.460 And do you watch Dawah content right now?

01:23:17.020 Like, are you currently watching?

01:23:17.660 Of other speakers?

01:23:18.660 Few.

01:23:19.520 Do you mind sharing?

01:23:20.660 See, all the top dais I know, personally, alhamdulillah.

01:23:23.580 Any top, anyone that reaches more than one minute

01:23:25.560 is on our scanner.

01:23:27.760 And most of them have come.

01:23:28.820 Almost all of the dais.

01:23:30.020 All the top dais have come here, mashallah.

01:23:31.960 And they meet.

01:23:32.760 You understand, no?

01:23:33.220 And then, of course, we have our own system. So previously, of course, like we had the largest conference in the world. I can show you a documentary of that. That is the largest conference. You see, mashallah, 250,000 people and the stage is massive, 13,000 square feet stage. Like it competes with Hollywood, you know. So it was my desire to have a program utilizing the technology of the Hollywood for halal activity. It was my desire to have the conference once. But then we had it every year. Then the band came and we had to slip. So we had it for five years.

01:24:02.540 Do you miss being out there on the front lines?

01:24:05.040 Of course. See, Bombay was different. See, India was a battlefield.

01:24:08.040 I miss that because you can't get that much audience, that much technology, that many people.

01:24:13.540 You can get in some countries like Bangladesh and Indonesia.

01:24:16.040 But India was wonderful and the question that we received from there,

01:24:19.040 and 25% of my audience were non-Muslims, were there normally, 25%.

01:24:24.040 So the question we got, it gave us more food for thought, you know. 0.51

01:24:28.040 So the more people attack, I like, so that makes us come more closer to Islam and help them also come, mashallah.

01:24:36.840 How effective is the shahada? 0.88

01:24:39.040 Sometimes you can give dawah to somebody and convince them and then they say shahada and then I see them again a year later. 0.81

01:24:46.840 I say, oh, hey, I remember you. And he says, oh, yeah, I remember I took shahada with you.

01:24:50.340 I'm like, how are you? He's like, well, you know, I'm not practicing or anything.

01:24:55.840 So, yes, he did take Shahada in the moment, and they believe, but if they're not around the right situations and surroundings, then they're not actually any better a lot of the time.

01:25:06.800 For giving Shahada, there are mainly two broad categories.

01:25:10.020 One is who you have met many times.

01:25:12.800 Maybe he's coming to your organization 10, 20 times.

01:25:15.500 He's asked.

01:25:16.800 He may be at 10 talks with me, 10 talks with other guys.

01:25:19.700 And, you know, this person is convinced over a period of few months.

01:25:22.360 Now when I am giving a talk, someone turns on the mic and says, I want to give Shadha,

01:25:29.020 I have seen your lecture for the past two years, so I am not going to question him,

01:25:32.860 I accept him.

01:25:33.860 But when he says he has been seeing my lectures for the past two years, that means it is not

01:25:37.360 a one time. 0.85

01:25:38.360 Sometimes you meet people on the spot and then tell him to take Shadha, the chances

01:25:42.060 he will remain is very less. 0.56

01:25:43.700 So I am not in favour of meeting a person the first time, unless he has seen my videos

01:25:49.740 for the past maybe several months or several years.

01:25:52.300 But I am meeting a person for the first time

01:25:54.840 and hear the part and I explain to him Islam. 0.99

01:25:56.840 And I may convince him to take the Shadha, 0.81

01:26:00.300 but the chances he'll be as a party Muslim is less. 1.00

01:26:03.560 I'm not in favor of asking anyone

01:26:05.860 just in the meeting to take Shadha.

01:26:07.640 Unless I know that he has been listening to other speakers

01:26:11.280 or you know.

01:26:12.120 So there are people who just go out on the street and,

01:26:14.640 but I'm not against it also.

01:26:16.900 I'm not against it also,

01:26:17.840 because you never know many people who take for namesake shahada or because they love a muslim

01:26:23.600 girl and they take shahada but yet afterwards they may become practicing so it's not wrong

01:26:29.120 but i don't normally encourage myself directly but if someone who takes a shahada and maybe he

01:26:34.400 meets what happens later on he may meet someone and then he may start to practice islam so

01:26:40.560 depending on how you give shahada is very important but generally just going on in the market and

01:26:46.240 talking and asking the shahada it's not that it's not effective in the long run it's not wrong

01:26:51.840 but the chances that he'll stay so therefore there are many people to do shahada online

01:26:55.920 and i have done a survey on this there are dais who speak online dava they talk they call how many

01:27:01.840 shahadas i give in the fully a 500 you call him again 99 percent are not there so just talking to

01:27:08.240 someone online for few minutes and giving shahada i'm not in favor of that you understand so there

01:27:13.760 There are many dais who do DAWO online. At random they keep on calling and they take

01:27:19.140 Shahada and they have videos of that. So once I did a survey, I told one person I was expert

01:27:24.400 in this. I said do one thing. Last year all those people who gave Shahada, call them and

01:27:29.260 tell me how many people are yet Muslims. So he said I was able to, all those are contacted,

01:27:34.920 more than 95% are gone. And the 5% which I spoke to who say they are there, they are

01:27:41.600 so doubtful. So that was not that easy for someone to change his full din overnight.

01:27:48.600 So it is a process that takes time. So we should not be deceived, we should not be so

01:27:55.060 much running after how many shahadahs you give. So people are more, I said take one

01:27:58.640 person is sufficient. The Prophet said it is like a red camel, you know. So many a

01:28:03.540 time people go more on how many views I have got, how many subscribers I have got, how

01:28:07.100 many followers I have got, how many shahadahs I take. It should be more quality rather than

01:28:10.940 quantity and no even if you come with problem is like suppose you may go to a village in

01:28:17.480 Africa it's very easy to make the full village give shahada in Africa you give them some

01:28:24.860 food they say shahada morning they are Muslim evening they are Christian next morning again 0.92

01:28:28.580 they are Muslim so this for me you understand so there are many people who do I am not so

01:28:33.980 so much. I said, okay, you want to do that? But I'm not in favour of Sahaja. I have proper

01:28:41.520 dawah like, okay, you have in your television screen, the person is coming and you're listening

01:28:46.180 for so many, you know, you can go back and check references. That's the true thing, you

01:28:49.860 know. It's not that you cannot change your faith. Will you change your faith in just

01:28:53.440 10 minutes? No, it's not possible. Once in a blue moon, okay. So therefore, I prefer

01:28:57.240 more dawah should be continuous process maybe through friends or through, you know, seeing

01:29:01.560 on the social media or on the television or on the satellite. So now for Dawah the difference

01:29:06.920 should be that I tell guys now including yourself. My advice would be that certain of your programs

01:29:13.080 take in high quality. This is camera is good but good for social media because we want

01:29:19.620 our work to be shawab-e-jhariya after we die. So certain programs you record in high quality

01:29:25.060 film offer good talks. So after you die you will get shawab-e-jhariya. So my thing all 0.97

01:29:30.460 All my big programs are, I take my own team, when I travel I have 50 people with me, but

01:29:34.180 not for every time.

01:29:35.180 When I have a big program, so that, and we edit it properly, so that even after, and

01:29:40.440 then we store it on high quality, on 8K, then we downgrade it to HD.

01:29:46.220 Compressor.

01:29:47.220 Yeah, compressor.

01:29:48.220 Because original quality we maintain in LTO 9, now LTO 10 has come, sorry, so LTO 10.

01:29:52.960 Do you think this quality is good?

01:29:55.260 I can see the camera, it's good for social media, very good.

01:29:57.680 But overall it's not top notch.

01:29:59.180 Not for social media, very good. But see, just looking at the camera again, it's my field.

01:30:03.500 Media is my field. I'm well versed with it. Oh, this is good, very good. For social media, very good.

01:30:08.860 You know yourself a lot more than I thought you would.

01:30:12.060 Our mic, our camera stand will be more split than the full equipment.

01:30:17.180 My camera stand cost me $25,000. Only my tripod, how much?

01:30:22.700 $25,000. $25,000 US dollar. Only tripod.

01:30:26.860 not rupee a dollar huh no not a dollar yeah u.s dollar of course i get a good discount from all

01:30:32.620 these people because they know me so only my stand and my length is 150 000 my body is only

01:30:37.420 two thousand dollars then my microphone is also expensive you understand but this is for high

01:30:42.140 quality so what we see so we call the speakers for our conferences and they know when we come

01:30:47.820 to dr dakin if he records he's going to secure the best thing that's important and when we call

01:30:54.380 them we give them economic ticket most of them want business class i said no i travel in economy

01:30:59.260 i can afford business class i prefer traveling economy so that and business class is normally

01:31:04.140 five times more expensive than economy i can afford it i can afford a private jet train also

01:31:08.460 to fly allah has given that wealth but but the problem is that if i travel in economy

01:31:13.660 i can give four other dies economic ticket to the house somewhere else so we believe in supporting

01:31:18.860 So when we call, no they insist for business class, to me. Other organizations say, I won't

01:31:25.700 be this class. But to me, they are not. But we give them good hotels, best five-star hotels

01:31:31.920 because the cost of a ticket is more expensive. Man, I know how to manage. I get good discounts

01:31:36.500 everywhere. Not because I am . Because I say that I will give you good business.

01:31:40.580 So we have the best of… So our conference is the most expensive conference in the world.

01:31:45.660 We spend $5 million for one conference, but the rate we get is so cheap for five-star

01:31:51.080 hotels, but we have own policy.

01:31:54.780 I said I don't know any guy who will buy, who is so rich to buy business as himself.

01:31:59.580 The demand is different, you understand?

01:32:03.120 So the thing is that I can afford, but I prefer like a lifestyle for that should be simple.

01:32:08.020 My demand.

01:32:09.020 There's less to take from you if you don't have a lot of things.

01:32:13.300 if you don't have a big home and Ferraris and all this stuff.

01:32:15.860 No one can twist my arm.

01:32:17.080 Let's say this, say that.

01:32:18.120 I don't have no need to twist your arm.

01:32:19.620 Therefore, when a person says, as I told you,

01:32:22.200 one of the person told me that he wants to charge for my ticket.

01:32:25.940 He wants to pay me a million dollars.

01:32:27.920 One million dollars and he'll charge.

01:32:29.200 I said, what?

01:32:30.220 I don't want to lose my sawa. 0.86

01:32:31.820 I'm getting sawa from Allah for giving me lecture free.

01:32:35.420 It isn't haram to charge.

01:32:37.140 It's allowed in Islam.

01:32:38.780 But why should I take a lower level? 0.95

01:32:40.940 So do I have to get rid of my Rolls Royce?

01:32:42.580 No, I'm just kidding, I'm just kidding.

01:32:44.580 No, don't, don't.

01:32:46.580 See, see for our talks now, when I give talks, there are many believers sitting in the first talk.

01:32:52.580 So I said owning your old brother is not haram, depending on how much you earn.

01:32:55.580 So if you're earning a lot of money, and then if you own a brother, it can come in muba category. 0.76

01:33:00.580 In Islam, there are five categories. Haram, prohibited. 0.95

01:33:02.580 Makroo.

01:33:03.580 Makroo, discouraged.

01:33:05.580 Muba, that is optional. No plus, no negative.

01:33:10.580 Then Sunnah and Mustabh and one is Fardh. 0.84

01:33:15.740 In Fardh, you have to do it.

01:33:18.140 If you don't do it, you get negative points, 0.97

01:33:19.940 like praying Salah.

01:33:21.820 Sunnah, if you do, you get plus points.

01:33:23.820 If you don't do, no negative points.

01:33:25.380 For example, praying Sunnah and Salah.

01:33:27.820 Then Muba is optional.

01:33:29.860 You can become a doctor, you can become a

01:33:30.960 mean-jean-yaan, it's not haram, Muba.

01:33:32.920 Makhru is like if you do it, if you do it,

01:33:38.700 then you don't get negative points.

01:33:40.100 but if you don't do it, you get positive point.

01:33:41.780 For example, standing and drinking water is sunnah,

01:33:43.980 sitting is better.

01:33:44.960 So if I stand and drink, it is makhru,

01:33:46.900 but no negative point.

01:33:48.740 And haram means if you do it, negative point,

01:33:50.940 if you don't do it, positive point.

01:33:52.600 So, Roseroy, so if you really earn

01:33:56.280 maybe a few million dollars a month.

01:33:57.840 See, normally when you're poor,

01:33:59.460 you require at least 20 months salary to buy a car.

01:34:02.600 The moment you keep on getting richer,

01:34:05.020 I mean, this is my analysis.

01:34:06.380 If you're a poor man,

01:34:07.240 you require two years salary to buy a car.

01:34:09.800 But if you're medium rich, then five months to her.

01:34:12.700 If you're super rich, no one buys the car for his monthly earning also.

01:34:18.040 Whether it be Bill Gates, they may be earning millions per month,

01:34:21.700 but the car is much cheaper than that.

01:34:23.500 So it'll be a weekly salary.

01:34:24.980 So depending on how rich you are, can you afford a Rolls-Royce or not?

01:34:28.820 So if you see a monthly salary, if you can afford,

01:34:32.520 as long as you're paying zakat and you're giving charity

01:34:35.800 and doing the Farays, it becomes mobile.

01:34:37.660 But if you can afford and you don't buy, then you get mustahab.

01:34:42.660 You understand, no? What I prefer? Giving charity.

01:34:47.660 I prefer having a Toyota and that much whether the...

01:34:51.660 R Roseroy cost about 2 million Saudi Riyadh.

01:34:56.660 That was a ghost. 2022 model, you know.

01:35:00.660 We had the Phantom.

01:35:01.660 It's a nice car.

01:35:02.660 So we were and in Lamborghini we had the Urus and in Bentley we had the Bentayga and the Bugatti.

01:35:17.660 No, no Bugatti. Bugatti is too expensive. We didn't buy the Bugatti. Bugatti is only car we didn't buy.

01:35:22.660 Because the others we had. So we had the Maybach.

01:35:24.660 Of course, it's a stinky car.

01:35:26.660 a flying spur flying spur yeah then we had the maybach so they are the super luxury cars all

01:35:32.100 for business because during the during the world cup in qatar we thought we'll make good money so

01:35:37.620 that's how we invested that and then we had the other cars you know s450 so the cheapest car that

01:35:42.980 i had was e200 that was three times more expensive than my toyota innova so when i went to meet my

01:35:48.820 daughter in in katar which you are studying in hbk i do the e200 but i was a little bit

01:35:57.620 uncomfortable as a diet i will eat 200 so then i purchased a camry 0.95

01:36:04.900 but do you think it's not good for dyes to roll in style because nowadays we see the culture

01:36:10.980 they're attracted to these type of correct correct no you tell me you're doing that 0.99

01:36:14.420 I am saying I have a Rolls Royce, I am not travelling in which is more Dawa. I own a Rolls Royce and I don't travel in my own Rolls Royce. 0.98

01:36:21.420 Which is better for Dawa? I am telling this not to show off. This is my purpose for doing Dawa. 1.00

01:36:28.420 So people ask me, why are you telling this? I am telling this, tell the world that even a Dahi can own all these. 1.00

01:36:34.420 I am not telling to show off. My main name is Dawa. But when I tell this, so those people after money, 0.60

01:36:41.420 oh doctor's asking like a shortage and yet he's living in a small house there's a quote from

01:36:46.060 muhammad ali where he says that he was braggadocious and there he was uh a showman because people

01:36:53.180 wouldn't listen to him without all the jewelry and fancy things is there any credibility to

01:36:59.260 this statement see yes at one time i do agree like you see many people many people normally

01:37:05.340 and i know many especially american people too no no i know many believers in the world

01:37:09.500 you know they're my fans i know many billionaires and some of them cannot travel in a car less than

01:37:15.980 rolls-royd eventually they cannot they will not sit in a in a in a toyota because that's against

01:37:21.420 if they travel in if you go to hotel they want the press initial suit so that is the problem i said

01:37:26.700 imagine he's miskin he's poor means he is recognized by his rose i am recognizing my

01:37:33.020 who's better that means you require a roll right for people to recognize that you are a billionaire

01:37:37.660 correct for me my kurta pyjama people recognize me and i meet even precedence in this no problem

01:37:43.740 it should not be obscene you understand so who is better you're dependent that means you are

01:37:48.700 dependent for people to recognize you because you have a rosary or because you have a big villa

01:37:53.260 and you're nothing without it without anything i'm for myself i am what i am

01:37:58.380 they're coming to meet me not my house not my rosary so the thing is the reason i'm telling this

01:38:03.580 It's just to say, normally I tell dais not to do business, it's difficult.

01:38:06.880 Allah has blessed me, I'm doing many businesses.

01:38:08.680 So I'm telling this not to show off, to tell that see all this wealth is there,

01:38:12.880 but nothing, that is not my recognition.

01:38:14.380 We have, we have really keyed these things.

01:38:17.880 That's for my business.

01:38:18.980 But when we call a dais, we give him good facilities,

01:38:22.780 except the business class is too much.

01:38:24.480 Not that we can't afford it, but we said we don't,

01:38:27.980 but we give him the best to afford it and we get a good discount we did.

01:38:30.780 So, when the dais come for a conference in Qatar, they have Maybach and Bentley, we let

01:38:34.860 them drive also, they are shocked to give them a taste and I tell him I said, taste it

01:38:39.920 so that tomorrow you should not crave for it, let it go out of your head.

01:38:43.820 So, in I think in 2014, I took him to Dubai to my friend and let him drive all the cars

01:38:48.340 that day.

01:38:49.340 And that's what I said that, you know, we have studied in the best of hotels, but when

01:38:53.980 I travel, I have my own policy, I never spend more than $110 per room in a five-star hotel,

01:38:59.160 anywhere in the world.

01:39:00.160 I stayed in hotels which cost $5,000 a day when the other people call me.

01:39:07.160 But when I pay, I have a policy that shoes should be cheap.

01:39:11.160 So that, you know, make your lifestyle simple.

01:39:14.160 And that helped us when I did Hijra. We were zero. 1.00

01:39:17.160 I didn't know anything for one and a half year.

01:39:20.160 And then we started again. Now again, Allah has blessed us.

01:39:23.160 Have they ever tried to... I'm sure you've got attacks.

01:39:27.160 attacks you get the shadow bans the government have they ever tried for your

01:39:31.340 life to tell you frankly so far except in the early days when I started that

01:39:37.960 was someone would come with a knife and all but there's no case of any attack

01:39:41.400 on me but of course of course I've been on the list of many things but Allah

01:39:46.360 has been very I've been very kind and I've been on their beer may this but

01:39:54.160 that's actually what i want to ask like what do you believe are the consequences that you face

01:40:00.560 for speaking the truth in your country i am praying to allah let me get shahada

01:40:07.120 correct how can i get shahada

01:40:10.800 if i die if someone gives me because i might die that is shahada so i pray for that and there's no

01:40:17.520 higher level of death than shahada i'm not afraid of it but but naturally i wouldn't like to die

01:40:22.960 and not do anything but i'm doing something good and if i have to so that leave it to allah of

01:40:27.120 course we take precautions we have got security but that is more from the fans than the

01:40:31.680 effort security but they're more from the fans i'm going to come and stay next to you

01:40:35.280 but that is more from the fans and you know when you go to the mosque they they they they 0.55

01:40:39.040 mop you and they you know so yeah but that is because see the people who are our enemies

01:40:45.360 then you got a great security but of course we have to take care not that we should not

01:40:49.840 take care of security you know do you miss india of course i mainly miss the dawa in india

01:40:56.560 because that was the way at the magnitude we used to do there is something phenomenal

01:41:00.960 and having the audience there they're very intelligent in bombay you know asking questions

01:41:04.880 so of course that i miss but here we're having a different being in malaysia the different

01:41:10.160 altogether opportunity for doing that one but what advice would you give to future dais

01:41:16.320 that want to share the message of Islam with the world?

01:41:23.760 Number one, that be as close to the Quran as soon as possible,

01:41:29.040 because there are some guys who preach, who quote the Quran, but when it comes to personal life,

01:41:33.120 they may not be, you know, they may talk, you have to be kind, but they may not be kind to the

01:41:37.200 employees, and they may talk something, but they may not. So one thing on speaking on the stage,

01:41:41.520 so Allah says in Surah Saf chapter 16 verse number 2

01:41:44.400 do not preach what you do not practice

01:41:45.780 especially those guys who become more famous

01:41:48.680 and also that's one thing

01:41:49.600 and make your life simple

01:41:52.120 and

01:41:53.520 it's not haram to charge

01:41:56.460 for doing any activity 0.63

01:41:57.380 but if you leave it to Allah to do your PR

01:42:00.440 and your publicity

01:42:01.120 so we have never charged

01:42:03.320 even I pay for the tea

01:42:05.360 in my organization as a lump sum

01:42:08.680 even the tea I have

01:42:10.040 of course I can have tea

01:42:10.920 I am the president of the organization but I will pay for that.

01:42:16.120 Suppose if I give a dinner to my guest 10 people and if I eat outside in the restaurant

01:42:22.720 I divide the bill by 10 and I give that so that you know I want to be you know out of

01:42:27.720 it.

01:42:28.720 So, if you make your life simple and try and help other people more so if Allah has given

01:42:36.120 there are very few dais that have suffered in the world today, very few dais.

01:42:39.120 I know you are satisfied.

01:42:40.120 Very few. So we have a policy of supporting any dais. Of course first we support a lot,

01:42:45.120 we were in a better position before, now it is a different position financially.

01:42:48.120 So we support others. So imagine if you, Allah has given you, maybe you have a business,

01:42:52.120 you are doing very well. So if you reduce and give it. So imagine what pleasure you will be getting. 0.76

01:42:59.120 That Allah has given me wealth which is halal, from that I am cutting down, I am not telling you to 1.00

01:43:05.120 to walk and have a cycle, you know, walk on the highway. Have, okay, travel, but economic. 0.99

01:43:11.460 Of course, once you start travelling in a first class, the luxury of a first class of

01:43:15.200 A380 is so good that you would like to travel in a, in a economic class. So that is the

01:43:21.300 thing that once you have tasted that luxury of trying in a first class suite in A380 especially,

01:43:27.720 the way you get a full blood, you can have a shower in it, and then you have the money

01:43:31.640 And yet you are travelling in economic class. You understand na? So the pleasure you feel is very good. Allah helps you with that.

01:43:39.640 So make your, so people are shocked. Doctors are asking you to have an economic class. You understand na? 0.91

01:43:45.640 So the thing is that let your life be simple like the Prophet while doing Dawah. And I agree with you that when you are talking about glamour, correct?

01:43:53.640 Roseroy. That is the reason I am talking about my camera. Why? My camera is more expensive than the Roseroy. So I am telling I am using this wealth for sake of Allah. Imagine, you understand na? The people that own this camera are much less than people who own Roseroy. So I am saying this is my Roseroy, my camera. And 18. How many? 18.

01:44:17.640 So this is my Roseroy.

01:44:21.740 So then we make it loan to the people that we don't care for money,

01:44:24.940 we don't care for luxury, we care for Allah.

01:44:27.740 So then when you say that Allah has blessed you,

01:44:30.040 I don't know if any die was on top, on a high level.

01:44:33.340 Allah is blessing me, making me on.

01:44:36.140 And I'm not spending time, I'm giving less than one hour a day. 0.64

01:44:39.440 For my own, less than one hour a day.

01:44:41.740 Recently, recently when I did business in real estate,

01:44:44.840 I did business in real estate,

01:44:46.040 in in in four months I hardly invested about 13.8 million dirham that's about

01:44:52.460 less or four million dollars and we made a profit of what 17 million dollars in

01:44:57.080 four months five times five times and 51% you calculate plus my share was there

01:45:01.600 you have 10 million dollars I said it now what won't that get me more

01:45:06.080 happiness 10 million dollars charity I'm giving in a matter of four months four

01:45:10.740 to five months 10 million dollars this house is all nothing 125 thousand dollar house when I give 0.96

01:45:19.380 10 million dollars as fuck for charity the amount of happiness it is unbelievable so what is better 0.89

01:45:25.020 showing off my rose or showing off my this less is more and quality see what the profit if you 0.99

01:45:32.460 see the lack of kulfa rashadine so when they know this person he's so famous he's earning money and

01:45:37.440 And yet, leaving a simple life, having a simple watch.

01:45:39.740 You know, I get watches.

01:45:41.080 I get watches of Rolex and Patek Philippe as gifts.

01:45:45.180 This is only $30 watch.

01:45:46.920 Not that I can't afford it.

01:45:48.860 You understand?

01:45:49.680 We get gifts.

01:45:50.420 I got a gift of Bentley once.

01:45:52.680 Bentley car is a gift.

01:45:53.840 I sold it and give it in charity.

01:45:56.040 You understand?

01:45:56.680 Do you think for the da'i, living in luxury

01:45:58.680 could corrupt their heart? 1.00

01:46:00.040 Of course, yeah.

01:46:01.980 If you're earning, the way I'm earning, it's not haram.

01:46:05.140 But then why not do mustab? 0.69

01:46:06.320 Why not do something which is encouraged?

01:46:09.360 We spoke about unity, especially with the Ummah right now and how important that is.

01:46:14.160 And I liked the point you made that even though we have minor differences in the face of the greater enemy, you forget your minor differences.

01:46:21.560 No, minor differences, major differences.

01:46:23.680 Forget the major differences, not minor differences.

01:46:25.240 The major differences?

01:46:26.160 Minor differences, no, no.

01:46:27.620 Yeah.

01:46:27.980 At this point, forget major differences.

01:46:29.920 Okay. 0.94

01:46:30.400 Because with Iran, we have major differences, not minor differences.

01:46:32.960 What about the major differences, and that's a great correction? 0.91

01:46:36.320 The major differences between the Christians, for example. I saw there was a great display of unity where the Pope just was in Algeria and he's walking in the Majid and he's saying that maybe we shouldn't live in fear of the Muslims. Maybe the Catholics can live in peace with the Muslims. And he's getting backlash from the evangelical Christians in America. These people are saying, well, Trump is saying that the Pope is weak on crime and the Pope is depicting himself as Jesus. And he's saying that the Pope doesn't know what he's talking about. The Pope shouldn't speak about the war. He doesn't know.

01:47:06.320 Is there some sort of unity we could find with Catholics? Because the Pope has made the right efforts to try to show at least a message of peace.

01:47:14.320 Of course, we should appreciate that. We should. Come to common terms. We should. We should appreciate what is good, always.

01:47:23.320 And the best is when we are at peace, we can do better Dawa. And especially when the Pope is talking something about Islam,

01:47:32.320 So even though we know he may have another agenda, we should take it to our advantage.

01:47:36.780 What can his other agenda be?

01:47:37.780 Sorry?

01:47:38.780 No, if he has a...

01:47:39.780 Hypothetically, he doesn't have... 0.92

01:47:40.780 I don't know about this Pope.

01:47:41.780 Even if he has.

01:47:42.780 So we should take advantage of the commonalities.

01:47:45.780 Right. 1.00

01:47:46.780 Like when I meet a Christian, I'll say Islam is the only non-Christian faith which makes 0.98

01:47:50.620 it an article of faith to believe in Jesus Christ, peace be upon him. 0.96

01:47:53.220 As a Messiah. 0.99

01:47:54.220 No Muslim is a Muslim unless he believes in Jesus Christ, peace be upon him. 1.00

01:47:56.220 Right. 0.91

01:47:57.220 We believe that he was one of the mightiest messengers of God.

01:47:59.220 Right.

01:48:00.220 We believe that he was born miraculously without any intervention.

01:48:01.220 Right.

01:48:02.220 that he gave life to the dead with God's permission. We believe that he healed those born blind 0.93

01:48:06.060 with God's permission. So no. So we have to get the commonalities. So even if we they

01:48:11.760 talk differently we should win them over is important. That is how you can to Dawah. Dawah

01:48:16.620 can be done more in the time of peace than in time of war. That is the reason Prophet 1.00

01:48:21.160 took Soleil Hudebi. At the time you know they asked for conditions which were so absurd if 0.99

01:48:25.860 you know the treaty of Soleil Hudebi Hudebi you know. So Prophet wanted peace and because

01:48:30.380 of that Islam spirit. And what

01:48:32.380 sort of relationship should

01:48:33.920 I, or should

01:48:35.600 people find with Christians? Because 0.91

01:48:38.340 there's the verse in the Quran where Allah says in the Quran 1.00

01:48:40.540 never will the Jews and Christians

01:48:42.220 be accepting 0.99

01:48:44.480 of you until they become one of them.

01:48:46.260 But it also says...

01:48:47.960 Yes, and it also says that 0.97

01:48:49.720 the true Christians are the ones that will be 0.99

01:48:52.360 the most

01:48:53.820 peaceful around

01:48:56.220 the Muslims. I don't remember the exact word

01:48:58.020 Allah uses, but he says that the true

01:49:00.160 Christians will be what is the word I ask this because the majority of my

01:49:12.460 audience are Christian it's not even Muslim majority I live in America too

01:49:16.720 and they resonate with a lot of the core things I feel you should keep on

01:49:20.920 talking with the similarity don't talk about differences for example in your

01:49:24.640 talk if you make it a point to get the statement that Islam is only non-Christian

01:49:28.840 faith which makes an article of faith to believe in jay's case people upon it we believe so if you

01:49:33.080 say these five six sentences it will bridge gaps irrespective what type of christian there you

01:49:39.400 understand and then of course that's the verse of the quran talking about surya bakara chapter 2

01:49:44.200 verse 11 that they say you shall never enter jannah unless you become a jew or a christian 0.99

01:49:52.840 This is a wishful thinking. 0.99

01:49:57.480 And one verse of Surah Baqarah, chapter 2, verse 120,

01:50:00.440 which it says,

01:50:05.820 that they will never accept unless you become a Jew or a Christian.

01:50:11.240 So these two verses are what it's saying.

01:50:12.900 And the verse in which it says in Surah Maidah, chapter 5, verse 82,

01:50:15.980 that the closest, the furtherest to the Muslim,

01:50:20.080 among the early kitab are the Jews. 0.67

01:50:21.960 And the closest are those who say that we are Christians. 0.68

01:50:24.560 So the furthest one is of the Jews, it says? 0.98

01:50:26.280 Yes. 0.74

01:50:26.800 That was of the Quran.

01:50:28.000 Okay. 0.83

01:50:28.520 And the closest are the...

01:50:31.240 Okay. 1.00

01:50:31.920 Because the Jews reject each other. 1.00

01:50:33.300 They stoned him as a Messiah. 0.99

01:50:34.460 They stoned him, as you were saying earlier,

01:50:36.180 when he said, I and the Father are one.

01:50:39.440 And what sort of unity will there be?

01:50:41.780 And this is a question of eschatology,

01:50:44.340 but it says that the Christians and Muslims

01:50:45.820 will unite against the common enemy

01:50:49.880 the end of times is this right there'll be the uh there'll be time yes when muslim relate to them

01:50:55.720 against the jews when can we is this going to be again i did kind of ask you this earlier

01:51:02.600 there's no way we can know you don't exactly but the time they're coming

01:51:10.360 yeah and the other questions are i would ask about uh shia and simple things but

01:51:15.320 But I think one important takeaway here that I can see from your answers

01:51:20.260 is that it's more important to focus on commonalities rather than differences.

01:51:24.320 And it seems like your Dawa style is so effective.

01:51:26.220 And I could imagine your talks with Hindus.

01:51:28.600 You don't focus or try to be condescending or, oh, you believe in this many gods.

01:51:32.080 And I'm realizing now, I could also see with Warner, too,

01:51:34.800 we make a lot of errors, probably me more than you.

01:51:38.600 But sometimes you could be divisive.

01:51:40.600 see all these ammunition about see i have a talk on contradiction in the bible everything but that's

01:51:46.280 kept for me maybe an emergency like when i had a debate with william campbell william campbell

01:51:52.600 from usa he comes from pennsylvania he wrote a book against the quran the topic was bible and

01:51:58.760 quran in the light of science so you know to reply to morris bukel and for eight years they

01:52:02.520 use the book against the muslim that is there are scientific errors and he pointed 30 scientific

01:52:06.280 in the Quran and no one replied so the Christians used that book that if Quran

01:52:11.920 is 13 scientific how can be the word of God so I had to debate with them Chicago

01:52:15.220 so there of course there too and the debate we think my air to attack then

01:52:20.440 I took all mistakes in the Bible contradiction you know so so you should

01:52:24.580 have this with you ready to go as a last resort right it's like a gun you 0.91

01:52:29.860 don't want to shoot a nuclear weapon yeah nuclear weapon the last choice

01:52:33.040 And one more thing, they should know that a lion doesn't have to roar to prove he is the king of the jungle.

01:52:42.040 A lion doesn't have to roar to prove he is the king of the jungle.

01:52:46.040 You have to do with Hikmar. But when required, of course ammunition with you. 0.97

01:52:50.040 So they know that I can rip the Bible apart. So that is the reason if you see a video of a Christian mission in the UK. 0.55

01:52:57.040 He said, say, Dr. Zakir, he ripped the Bible apart, blah, blah, blah, blah. 0.54

01:53:00.600 So he spoke against me for one and a half minute, and that video became viral.

01:53:04.500 So that means they should be afraid of you, that these people can do it.

01:53:08.220 But we deal with stigma and with love and affection.

01:53:10.220 So when they say, oh, they speak about Dr. Zakir, but I hate him.

01:53:13.300 He was so humble.

01:53:14.360 He speaks so nice.

01:53:15.120 You know, so all these people are against us.

01:53:16.500 They do publicity against us.

01:53:18.420 You know, either there, see, the tire.

01:53:19.620 Let them do publicity. 0.84

01:53:20.420 But when they meet, so that's what they did against the Prophet.

01:53:25.380 the maximum books written against any human being in the world is the prophet

01:53:30.660 and what was the most important lesson you learned from your uh the teacher if his name

01:53:36.260 was again yes important takeaway a message you could spread from him from the lessons

01:53:42.260 you learned from him i'm a did that mashallah you are the man who only studied to standard six

01:53:48.980 only study what till standard six he studied okay after that he dropped dropped out from school and

01:53:56.660 he challenged the best of orators in the world jimmy's forget at his time in 1984 85 86 jimmy

01:54:03.700 forget was considered to be the best orator in the world his budget was 400 million dollars a year

01:54:08.340 he spent more than a million dollars a day to keep his hair above water and he debated with him

01:54:13.540 mashallah so she didad was simple mashallah coming from poor family but

01:54:18.500 he had the passion so that if you strive in the way of allah allah opens up your

01:54:23.980 pathways if you see his history if you see life history you know simple man

01:54:30.300 and then he rose to such high levels that everyone would meet him you got the

01:54:35.080 King Faisal award which is the highest award in the world and everyone would

01:54:38.380 meet him all the you know the sheikh the president and the king and at that

01:54:41.420 time, he had no competition.

01:54:43.860 There was no dais. There were very few dais

01:54:45.480 in the house. Now there are, mashallah. 0.72

01:54:47.180 Thousand dais in the fight.

01:54:49.180 So, and then he rose and then he became so popular

01:54:51.420 people, supported him, everything and all.

01:54:53.400 So, of course, we learned a lot from him, mashallah, because I spent

01:54:55.360 a lot of time with him, you know. Not

01:54:57.060 training under him, because I

01:54:58.980 just saw his videos and I

01:55:00.900 just repeated, but I met him

01:55:02.840 and spent time with him at his home. He came to my

01:55:05.420 house, you know. So, I learned a lot from him, mashallah.

01:55:08.320 And we talked a lot about

01:55:09.400 the difficulties with ego

01:55:11.040 and money, fame. What was your, in your career so far, inshallah there's a lot more years

01:55:17.560 to come. What was the most difficult test that you had to overcome to become a successful

01:55:22.480 da'i? I believe when I started doing da'ava, I

01:55:29.640 remember in 2008 when we did the second conference. It was the largest conference in the world.

01:55:36.440 were some of the Muslims of a different sect, they complained against us and at that time

01:55:41.780 the conference was going to get cancelled. So that was like you know the biggest jolt

01:55:46.500 in my life for the hour, my conference you know this may mean event in the year you know

01:55:50.560 spending five million dollars and were going to get cancelled at that time and we didn't

01:55:54.500 know what to do. So I just went to my room in my cabin I prayed to all of that. The next

01:55:58.560 day the Home Minister's son from the capital Delhi comes and he touches my feet he says

01:56:03.280 in my fan. I said, don't touch the shit. And then the conflict goes on. Then I realized 1.00

01:56:09.520 that that was just a tip of an iceberg. What I thought that time was the biggest problem

01:56:15.620 in my Dawa, problems thousand times more came after that, but my life was cool. So I realized

01:56:23.920 that was illustrating me. At that time, it was the biggest event, you know, and five

01:56:27.960 million dollars at stake is going to go and all my, everything is all done and it's going

01:56:31.960 we cancelled and all the speakers have come out to do. So that was like something like

01:56:36.280 like as though I am going to die. You know somewhat similar to that. After that things

01:56:41.280 10 times worse happened. Many incidents everywhere in the world. But the life became more calm.

01:56:46.140 You know just leave it to Allah. Strive hard. You know after that I had to Hijrah. So when 0.99

01:56:51.080 we did Hijrah we left all our wealth behind. We left our full organization behind and we

01:56:55.080 came and then we came to Malaysia and then you know we were all my full family. My family

01:56:59.040 been trained they've stayed in the best of hotels in the world seven stars they've stepped on the

01:57:02.240 floor you know have one son two daughters and a wife and all of them are died when we go to

01:57:06.320 conferences my son and me we give lectures to the mixed audience and my wife and my two daughters

01:57:12.000 you know to ladies so you always have a venn diagram you know yeah that venn diagram that

01:57:16.320 you know when i started doing the hour they said once you get married class so that time i have to

01:57:19.680 spend maybe about you know nine hours in the hour when i'm married i might a person who's a die

01:57:25.440 The whole family of dais.

01:57:27.280 No, of course.

01:57:28.240 So that might, so then I used to give instead of eight, nine hours, I didn't give 11 hours.

01:57:32.280 So they said, when you have children, so then I started Islamic school.

01:57:34.920 So then I started giving about 14 hours, you know, in a day, 15 hours a day.

01:57:38.000 So it's a Venn diagram.

01:57:39.580 So Venn diagram, so that's how, mashallah.

01:57:41.940 So Allah has blessed us.

01:57:43.520 Alhamdulillah.

01:57:43.940 So the time has come.

01:57:45.920 So because of this whole situation that we should not be dependent on money with Vinayana

01:57:49.900 subhanahu wa ta'ala, of course, when we did hijra, everything gone.

01:57:53.440 but believe me we didn't none in the family even baton island alhamdulillah we came here

01:58:00.480 you know there we had a very good house a very good beautiful city but this is better

01:58:04.320 of course the house in mom was is more expensive being in bombay but mashallah so and people

01:58:10.000 mashallah the amount of respect they gave us they called us everywhere many people said okay now

01:58:14.880 you're left okay we'll give you 25 000 a month i don't require that amount you know i'll give

01:58:18.960 They are asking me that now you have left everything you want you want I will give you I said Jazakallah you want to fund the organization not me and yet we kept the same thing mashallah so we have maintained with the same style that same level and Allah has been very kind but the level of Dawah increased more our our appearance on the social media increased and our meeting and trying to solve the problem all over the world what's happening in different parts of the world we are trying to you know whatever way we can help I don't want to keep you too long

01:58:48.940 I know the Maghrib is coming up. I want to ask you one more because you make so many new reverts, Alhamdulillah.

01:58:55.440 What is the perspective that in your eyes reverts have that born Muslims don't have? 0.85

01:59:01.440 Is there a different lens that reverts see Islam through? 0.97

01:59:06.440 Yes, when the advantage of see, there are two types of revert. 0.96

01:59:11.440 One revert has become a revert maybe because of love marriage.

01:59:15.440 Okay. Many of the time they marry, they become Muslim only because they loved a Muslim girl. But then they become more practicing than Muslim. Many times. And sometimes they remain. Those reverts who have studied and have, you know, got impressed. And then, alhamdulillah, one of the major reasons is Tawheed. You know, Tawheed. 0.92

01:59:35.440 the oneness and and believing that all Muslims are equal of course when they come they may

01:59:43.800 find some difference in the teaching other than the practices you know depending on which 1.00

01:59:47.520 country they accept Islam but I always say that when a person becomes a revert wherever 0.93

01:59:53.440 possible let one Muslim be like a family member like for example a revert comes he may have 0.62

01:59:58.020 difficulties going to pray going alone he's a new person he may not have support from 0.87

02:00:01.800 the family there should be one person like if he's a gent let they be a muslim brother

02:00:06.520 if it's a female let the muslim sister be with them at least for six months as the family

02:00:10.280 member that means you can call them 24 over 7. so at least he's comfortable and he sees 0.97

02:00:16.200 the atmosphere and you know and then the organization is there just giving shahs and leaving them

02:00:22.000 they will go back so the difference that i find that the person who accept islam on

02:00:28.320 an average is a better practicing Muslim than a person with average Muslim. Average. If

02:00:35.540 you take an average Muslim from India, an average revert will become the revert. He 1.00

02:00:41.020 is more practicing than an average Muslim. There may be some reverts are bad, some reverts

02:00:47.000 are very good, but average. Because they have chosen Islam by choice. 1.00

02:00:52.280 What was your favorite moment in da'wah, like from your career of da'wah, what was your favorite, the most memorable moment you've had? 1.00

02:01:01.280 Oh, there are many. I cannot choose as...

02:01:05.280 Okay, well, I get the top two, top three.

02:01:08.280 You know, many people ask questions where mind goes blank and Allah gives you the answer.

02:01:14.280 And some questions we wonder, I mean, what is the answer? And then I get up and say, brother, I ask a good question.

02:01:19.280 In my heart, I don't know the answer, you know, that's my style, so when a brother asks a good question, give me more time to, you know, so a brother asks a good question and I don't know the answer and then repeat the question, I don't know the answer and then Allah gives the answer and then, so that is like, you know, so mainly when someone asks me a very difficult question, which normally people can't answer and then Allah gives me the answer, that is the time in my life so much.

02:01:45.380 So when I get to the question, even now, online, difficult, and then I find the answer.

02:01:50.380 And then the answer I find is very logical.

02:01:52.380 So that, the pleasure that I get is phenomenal.

02:01:55.380 Can we get one brother asked a very good question?

02:01:58.380 Because you know, that's a famous thing to read all over the world.

02:02:01.380 Want me to give you the answer?

02:02:04.380 In Dubai, there was a person by the name of Rahul.

02:02:08.380 So he told that, you know, and this person was Hindu.

02:02:12.380 he says in public that i know more about islam than my management where i've got mba degree from

02:02:17.100 uk and he says that i've read many tafasirs of the quran when the first revelation was given

02:02:25.420 to prophet muhammad back angel gabriel archangel gabriel said he's hindu

02:02:30.540 good english he said i cannot read his question is that when when the archangel gabriel told

02:02:39.820 prophet muhammad ikrah read what did he show him where is that thing he showed him is it in the

02:02:44.860 museum is it in top copy museum is it in saudi arabia what did he show him and where is it now

02:02:50.220 it's not mentioned anywhere in the quran also in any tafsir what did archangel gebel show prophet

02:02:56.460 muhammad and what he showed him where is the present now if you tell me this so that's a good

02:03:02.220 question and i don't know the answer and i repeat the question and then i said that brother do you

02:03:08.140 you know Japanese he said no I said did I show you something that you said you

02:03:12.140 don't know Japanese and he tried to class and then he said well so afterwards so

02:03:17.560 sometimes after you know it is more of logic whether you know Japanese he said

02:03:22.000 no I said did I show you something in Japanese that he said no so of course so

02:03:26.080 there are many of the questions are more of you know logic and mantik rather

02:03:31.660 than knowledge so that comes with practicing of course Allah's help is the

02:03:37.760 most important. And of course when we were kids we had milestone, I want to get a gold

02:03:43.700 medal in sport. I want to give a talk of with so many, I told you know. So these milestones

02:03:48.280 are actually irrelevant. When we were kids it was there you know. So when I entered now

02:03:52.020 I said oh Sheikh Jeeza, how are you going to go to 12,000? I want to give a talk to

02:03:56.280 12,000 people in life. That was my aim. And now Allah has blessed us to give more than

02:04:03.400 a million people but that is not the target at all.

02:04:07.280 So what should the intention be of the da'i? Like it's to please Allah. That's the main intention. 0.97

02:04:12.280 Yes, please Allah and please Allah. Please Allah. That's more important. 0.98

02:04:16.280 So pleasing Allah is more important than, you know, of course, there are, there are world,

02:04:20.280 world milestones. Like with Shahid Deedah, Shahid Deedah 12,000. My most well thought.

02:04:28.280 Oh, Shahid Deedah got the King Faisal Award. Even I want to get King Faisal Award.

02:04:32.280 What is King Faisal Award? Nothing.

02:04:34.280 At that time, because Sheikh Didad got King Faisal Award,

02:04:37.280 oh, oh, Sheikh Didad got so much donation.

02:04:41.280 And that time, oh, you got one gift, two million dollar donation.

02:04:45.280 That has been it. So, you know, so whatever,

02:04:47.280 Sheikh Didad was like an ideal, you know, for us, you know.

02:04:51.280 Whatever he did was so large, only 12,000. 0.92

02:04:53.280 And you see, Allah blessed us with one billion,

02:04:55.280 very 12,000 is one billion.

02:04:57.280 King Faisal Award, we got King Faisal Award,

02:04:59.280 we got Dubei Ali Khan Award, we got Toko Mahalajan Award.

02:05:01.280 one million people in the audience life life city that's not how do you even sit in an arena that

02:05:07.600 big no no no it was open 150 acres and a big field or something yeah sitting on the ground

02:05:13.760 there were chairs were near about maybe 50 100 000 more 50 000 chairs 30 000 and they're

02:05:19.600 remaining on the ground in the field a million people a million people live

02:05:31.280 Do you guys like get a lot of like marriage proposals and stuff like that?

02:05:37.280 What proposal?

02:05:38.280 Marriage proposal.

02:05:39.280 Me?

02:05:40.280 Yeah.

02:05:41.280 We don't have that question to me.

02:05:44.280 Of course we keep getting but we are happy with the wife that I have got.

02:05:48.280 You know this is the favourite pastime in the Gulf country,

02:05:51.280 then why don't you have a second wife? 1.00

02:05:53.280 It's the favourite pastime when you go into the Gulf country, 0.96

02:05:56.280 then Saudi, Qatar.

02:05:58.280 their favorite pastime of saying,

02:06:01.020 why don't you have a second life?

02:06:02.920 So I being a debater and a daikh, 0.98

02:06:06.100 I give the reply that

02:06:07.160 Prophet ﷺ, 0.96

02:06:08.980 till his first wife Khatija, 0.96

02:06:10.820 may Allah be pleased with her,

02:06:12.240 till the time she was alive,

02:06:13.720 he did not marry second.

02:06:14.980 I have my Khatija with me, 0.90

02:06:16.200 you don't have a Khatija, 1.00

02:06:17.080 that's your problem. 1.00

02:06:19.460 So Sunnah is after your first wife, 1.00

02:06:21.740 who's the best wife dies, 1.00

02:06:22.680 then you can marry. 0.99

02:06:23.740 That's the Sunnah.

02:06:24.740 I mean, of course you can,

02:06:25.660 I'm not saying no,

02:06:26.220 but I'm not debating.

02:06:27.620 So I said, 0.82

02:06:27.960 But if you see the lifestyle of the Prophet, the first wife was there. 0.96

02:06:30.960 After the first five died, he married.

02:06:32.960 And the first wife was elder than the Prophet.

02:06:34.960 My wife was elder by about two, three weeks. 0.95

02:06:36.960 I said, I'm going to Sunnah. My wife is elder than me.

02:06:39.960 And, you know, so we all are doing all I guess.

02:06:42.960 They said, to win with doctors is impossible.

02:06:46.960 If we're supposed to follow Quran Sunnah completely,

02:06:50.960 technically it's Sunnah to marry nine wives.

02:06:53.960 Why is this one separate?

02:06:55.960 You have to understand certain things, what was first for the Prophet is not first for us.

02:07:00.540 So certainly sooner, I understand.

02:07:02.200 No, no, no. I'll come to it. Certain thing what the Prophet did, you cannot do.

02:07:05.960 There's a verse in the Quran in Surah Azaab, chapter 33, verse 51, 52, 53,

02:07:10.420 which says, for the Prophet after this, we cannot marry anyone except what a right-hand possesses.

02:07:15.660 And what you can marry, others cannot marry. So these are mentioned in the Quran.

02:07:20.340 You know, for example, the Prophet had to marry the Ubir, Hijrah and all. 0.97

02:07:23.380 So for us, it is four. For the Prophet, he was given the permission. And why? I have given a full talk on that. Because he did for people to come closer to each other, for Islam to spread. So all his, all his marriages, like, I had some of the other reasons. All the marriages. 1.00

02:07:40.680 They were widows and they were friends.

02:07:43.680 And he had only one virgin, only one virgin.

02:07:46.680 And that also to bring relationship with the clothes.

02:07:49.680 So all had some reason and logical reason because she was young after he died.

02:07:54.680 She was one of the greatest lady scholars at that time.

02:07:57.680 Of Hadith.

02:07:59.680 So the amount of Hadith she narrated, you know, and she taught 88 scholars.

02:08:05.680 So there is a reason for everything.

02:08:07.680 some people say i read online that although you don't claim to follow any school of thought and

02:08:13.260 which is perfect i loved your answer they said that you follow the salafi school of thought

02:08:17.840 see one thing is there that you know those who love me if they're jamaat islami they call me

02:08:22.620 jamaati they love me they're tabliqi they call me tabliqi the salafi they call me salafi to be

02:08:27.740 very straight to be a very frank answer among the schools of thought i respect all of them

02:08:31.880 But the closest to Koran Sunnah would be the Salafin.

02:08:34.880 I found that to be true as well. 0.97

02:08:37.880 Any logical person comes.

02:08:39.880 See, you have to understand the marks is different.

02:08:42.880 You may give one 94 marks, the other 95, that's it.

02:08:46.880 It's not that one is 40 and one. No, no, no.

02:08:49.880 According to me, if you do a proper survey, it will be between 92 and 98, all of them.

02:08:53.880 You understand? 1.00

02:08:54.880 So, but, but there are some people, unfortunately that they, they, so if you meet the Salafi

02:09:03.000 scholars, they are great. But those who pass from this institution, they are super Salafi, 0.99

02:09:08.720 they do takfir. Oh, I am going to Jannah now. That is the problem. So you have more problem 1.00

02:09:13.960 sometimes than these. They feel they are, they feel they are superior. You understand

02:09:18.940 So that is the problem. So if you meet the real scholar, the Salafi scholar in Saudi Arabia, 0.81

02:09:24.940 oh, they are too good. Scholars are very few. But those who go to the institution and say,

02:09:29.940 oh, we are only right, all the others are wrong, that is the problem. The moment you say,

02:09:32.940 I am only right, I say, I am also right. I am also right, means you may be right, may

02:09:37.940 be wrong, we will discuss tomorrow. But when you say, I am only right, means the others

02:09:41.940 are wrong. So this is the problem that, and now when you find the English dies, of course

02:09:46.940 dies of course there are more salafis coming up mashallah in the english it's good but they 1.00

02:09:51.340 need to pick up some super salafis also you know so what they do they keep on taking out those 0.96

02:09:55.740 people who try to get the other pushthams together they speak against them and they're saying the

02:10:01.020 kafir so they'll pick up all the people on the pitch tv the speakers who are more salafis but 0.71

02:10:05.660 they want to get all together so these super salafis usually speak against them oh this person 0.59

02:10:09.420 is a kafir he's not a scholar he's not following quran sutra so this is the trend that has come up 0.98

02:10:13.580 So, my way has always been that we try to get the people together, like when I go to Pakistan.

02:10:20.580 Pakistan has a lot of different sides, but I try to get them together. 0.99

02:10:29.580 We have to stop, sorry brother, we have to stop for Makar, it's very less time. 0.99

02:10:32.580 What time is Makar?

02:10:34.580 No, it's just like about 5 minutes.

02:10:36.580 No, no, it is 7.20, 7.20, 7.24 I think.

02:10:40.580 I think.

02:10:43.260 It's great sometimes, is it?

02:10:44.500 I mean, we can speak after that if you want.

02:10:46.420 No problem.

02:10:48.260 So you have a lot of energy.

02:10:49.940 No, no, you can keep going.

02:10:51.280 7.20 is Maghrib.

02:10:53.320 If you want, we can speak after Maghrib, after Isha.

02:10:55.560 If you have time, no problem.

02:10:56.540 Let's speak until Fajr. 0.98

02:10:57.360 I'm over a bit. 0.97

02:10:58.860 Until Ramadan. 0.99

02:11:01.500 Fajr, accept. 0.99

02:11:02.380 I will not stop for Salah. 1.00

02:11:04.720 Salah should not miss and Tajid. 1.00

02:11:06.280 No problem.

02:11:07.880 So today we're paying three juice.

02:11:10.080 so if you want to speak i remember i want to ask you about hidra because uh i've been traveling a

02:11:15.280 lot you said earlier that you hadn't seen basi yet i love this place i love malaysia so much

02:11:19.760 has been a fantastic what's that you said yes but the apprehension is that the united states

02:11:28.400 is where all the propaganda starts and where it's most impactful this is where wars begin 0.76

02:11:35.040 in this place this is where all the lies are spread this is where the muslims are demonized 0.58

02:11:39.840 are called terrorists and it's beneficial i find and warner finds as well to be within this 0.94

02:11:48.480 within all all the lies that ecosystem where all the enemies are trying to bring us down so

02:11:56.080 i'm essentially putting off my hidra because i know that it's effective to be there

02:12:00.880 is that just coped is there any sense that you're you're you're right partly right

02:12:06.080 Partly right. That's my love. Partly right. No, this is for the 10 minutes before the asana, that's the problem.

02:12:14.080 Okay.

02:12:14.580 So the thing is that you are partly right, but one thing you have to realize that number one, when there is a problem in the aeroplane, you know,

02:12:23.080 when the level goes down, the pilot says first put the mask on yourself and then on your child, correct?

02:12:31.080 When there is atmosphere problem or the oxygen problem in the plane and the mask fall, what

02:12:37.740 you do to say?

02:12:38.740 I will first save my son.

02:12:39.740 No.

02:12:40.740 You have to first put the mask on and say why?

02:12:43.080 If you are alive will you save him.

02:12:44.080 Correct?

02:12:45.080 You understand the logic?

02:12:46.080 You understand the logic?

02:12:47.080 No?

02:12:48.080 Means if there is a problem of danger and if you have your own child who is 5 years old,

02:12:54.620 the pilot says first put the mask on yourself and then you put the mask on the child.

02:12:58.840 Child.

02:12:59.840 Why?

02:13:00.840 on the child by the time you will not be able to get the oxygen you may die so first you save

02:13:06.120 yourself and then others there's a verse in the Quran in Surah Nisa chapter 4 verse number 97

02:13:13.080 that when the angels of death come and ask you how were you in the world and they will say that we

02:13:20.120 we were in in total submission and the what is the word that is used the English word

02:13:29.840 I forgot.

02:13:30.840 Aswanisah chapter 4th 97 that we have been in oppression and subjugation.

02:13:38.180 So, the angel replies isn't the world of Allah big enough for you to migrate?

02:13:43.620 Now, this context is when this verse was revealed when the sahabahs were in Makkah and when the majority of people in Makkah were non-Muslims. So, in a city like Makkah, which is the holy city, the verse was revealed and the sahabahs had to migrate out of the, when the Prophet did hijrah to Medina.

02:14:00.940 There were some Muslim sahabas who were in Makkah. 0.99

02:14:03.940 So the verse was revealed that you don't have to stay where the majority are non-Muslims 0.96

02:14:08.940 to safeguard yourself. 1.00

02:14:10.940 And then the verse continues, except those who are weak, who are old men and women

02:14:15.940 who cannot migrate, Allah will forgive them. 0.94

02:14:18.940 That means it becomes first for you to migrate 1.00

02:14:21.940 if you are living in a majority of non-Muslim country. 1.00

02:14:24.940 Now the main logic of this is, I know many Muslim dies, 1.00

02:14:27.940 many of them who migrated to U.S. they got their passport and they came back because 1.00

02:14:36.400 they said when we have children we can't give guarantee. I have been to America several

02:14:39.700 times. You cannot give guarantee for your children. See now there is fitna everywhere

02:14:44.860 in the world including here. I am not saying everywhere. But the level is different. Even 1.00

02:14:51.180 in Malaysia there is. Even in India there is. But in America it is glaring. The obscenity

02:14:55.940 It's bad. It's getting really bad.

02:14:57.940 No, it's too much. So the level of them may be 90% other place, 70%.

02:15:00.940 So tomorrow if something happens to your children, you're responsible.

02:15:03.940 So one thing is you have to safeguard yourself first. 0.99

02:15:06.940 And regarding Dawah, it may be correct maybe 100 years back. 1.00

02:15:10.940 Now you're doing Dawah to Americans, even I'm doing Dawah to Americans. 0.92

02:15:14.940 I'm not saying I'm doing more than you, but I've got a great following even in America.

02:15:20.940 Correct? I've got following in Europe.

02:15:23.580 So out of my 200 million, there are millions even there.

02:15:26.460 I'm doing that work.

02:15:27.880 You don't have to be there.

02:15:29.260 Of course, being there is beneficial.

02:15:30.540 I'm not saying no.

02:15:31.360 But first you have to safeguard yourself and your family.

02:15:34.680 So now the chances of the way the world is going now.

02:15:37.840 Now you cannot even, when your child is born,

02:15:41.020 you cannot mention the gender of your child.

02:15:42.940 Correct?

02:15:44.200 Let the child decide when they grow up. 1.00

02:15:46.340 What's happening now LGBT? 1.00

02:15:47.960 The way it's going on, the way it attacks on Islam. 1.00

02:15:49.800 So now the Islamic ruling is you have to stay in a Muslim majority country. 1.00

02:15:54.080 You have to migrate. 1.00

02:15:54.780 That is the Islamic ruling. 0.72

02:15:55.780 Unless you're weak or you don't have capacity to migrate. 0.98

02:15:58.720 Unless, you know.

02:15:59.580 So, and then, dawai, second, you first save yourself.

02:16:03.800 What do you know tomorrow what will happen to me?

02:16:05.460 You understand, na?

02:16:06.160 So you and your family.

02:16:07.640 You may have children.

02:16:08.500 You understand, na?

02:16:09.280 So I would advise always that, okay, have some of your roots out there, whatever is there.

02:16:16.180 But migrating is best.

02:16:17.360 and according to me

02:16:19.440 the best of the

02:16:20.460 worst country

02:16:20.920 or the best

02:16:21.320 available country

02:16:22.060 would be Malaysia 1.00

02:16:22.740 all the pros and cons 1.00

02:16:24.140 a lot of great

02:16:24.780 things about Malaysia

02:16:25.440 I see why you

02:16:26.500 made it right here

02:16:27.460 and especially Putrajay

02:16:28.500 there's a world

02:16:29.480 of a different

02:16:29.920 between Kuala Lumpur

02:16:30.560 and Putrajay

02:16:30.960 Kuala Lumpur has

02:16:31.800 a lot of opportunity

02:16:33.220 yeah mashallah

02:16:34.020 not that bad

02:16:34.740 compared to America

02:16:35.540 oh yeah

02:16:37.020 I'm from New York

02:16:38.400 like

02:16:38.680 I'm from New York

02:16:39.800 like this is nothing

02:16:40.740 compared to

02:16:41.320 but nothing

02:16:42.320 see on the list

02:16:46.700 But certain cities, Kuala Lumpur is there, Penang is there.

02:16:50.920 I love that.

02:16:51.920 I love Kuala Lumpur.

02:16:52.920 Kuala Lumpur has got the Faiyashur, so the red light area, which is not there here.

02:16:57.160 You understand?

02:16:58.160 Kuala Lumpur is good, but not as good as Putrajai.

02:17:00.160 Right. 1.00

02:17:01.160 You know, because there are 45% Chinese and Muslims, the 42%, you understand?

02:17:05.700 Here, the Muslims are more than 95% here, Putrajai.

02:17:08.700 What's the percentage of Muslims here?

02:17:10.700 More than 95%.

02:17:11.700 Some say 97, some say 98%.

02:17:13.700 98?

02:17:14.700 Wow.

02:17:15.700 can you show them about the view in this in this whole of malaysia 65 percent oh

02:17:21.700 whole of malaysia 65 except for two cities except for two cities which will not be fully

02:17:27.460 sharia compliant it's kuala lampur and penang because they're the muslim naroon majority i'm 0.62

02:17:32.100 very frank correct but here it's very quite economical very cheap see the beauty you know 0.95

02:17:39.540 no nightclub you know hard rock wanted to open a branch here hard rock you know okay you can open

02:17:45.060 but no music no alcohol no no no alcohol so okay you know so so here they have got some you know

02:17:52.100 alhamdulillah so so that way it's kind of like sharjah in dubai yes you are right yes yes yes

02:17:58.660 but but this so you're right perfect like dubai also it's very good you you can stay away from it

02:18:06.260 but you know and here are some things i was in dubai anyway that's not bad so so therefore i

02:18:13.460 I did stay first. First I had to come for giving lectures. The first time I came was in 1996.

02:18:18.900 But then when I had to stay, I stayed for a few weeks and maybe a month in Kuala Lumpur,

02:18:23.860 then I came here. And I had the Pasur Bil Putraja, which is the best view. He said,

02:18:28.180 this apartment. So I said, help him. They made a great choice.

02:18:31.380 Huh? They made a great choice here.

02:18:33.860 So then we saw the view is the best. So we took this and that's how we went.

02:18:36.900 I just noticed your library over here too. No, this is just maybe two percent of my library.

02:18:41.140 just two besides i mean he was in bombay and we bought half of it which is another apartment

02:18:46.660 the full is all all the books are stored in one apartment one apartment has become a storeroom

02:18:51.540 we have about six apartments here also there's an apartment just for the books books and some tape

02:18:55.860 services okay books and takes yes so that is a rented apartment the others of course we have

02:19:01.940 purchasing apartments here so that's my son and here one apartment studio and one is for my staff

02:19:06.980 from your security and the two apartments are for dives two apartments of a dice so any die

02:19:11.700 come they have to the same view there's the apartment below same with that meant for that

02:19:15.940 is anything you can come and stay a compliment zakanai's library his basement there's two

02:19:20.820 apartments for the eve the one that is down immediately there's the best view you can see

02:19:24.660 the putra mosque as well as this mosque and even brother 1925 you have to have two apartments for

02:19:29.780 this is just a this is either haram this is a special we should have bought something man

02:19:38.420 this special ether that is put on the kaaba on the kiswa yeah this you can't buy it with money

02:19:44.420 you're going to buy it with money this is the one that you put on the on the kiss of the black cloth

02:19:49.140 yeah of the kaaba and the so this is a special that we so this is not available thank you so

02:19:56.340 Thank you so much.

02:19:57.340 So this is just a small gift from my side.

02:20:00.340 And that's for you as well.

02:20:03.340 And this is oud?

02:20:05.340 Original that's put on the... 1.00

02:20:06.340 It's oud for the kiswah?

02:20:07.340 Yes, kiswah. 0.97

02:20:08.340 It's a muqallat. 1.00

02:20:09.340 It's a mixture.

02:20:10.340 So they made by one of my friends.

02:20:12.340 Oh, it smells good.

02:20:17.340 Thank you so much.

02:20:20.340 I'll just if you want a gift. 0.67

02:20:22.340 Look at the kiswah oud. 1.00

02:20:25.340 I'm going to put on my clothes? 1.00

02:20:30.580 The same thing?

02:20:32.900 This is a different bottle.

02:20:34.900 Do the same thing, but this is the special thing which you know, so if you have been

02:20:46.380 to Haram often and you go close to the Kiswa, you'll get the same.

02:20:50.100 It's a little hard to get over there now.

02:20:52.100 Yes, yes, yes. Unless you get some special permission to go inside the car also.

02:20:58.280 Oh, it even says here, Dr. Zakir Naik, exquisitely yours, this perfume is not available for sale

02:21:06.360 anywhere in the world. Oh, wow. That's all right. Look at that.

02:21:12.000 So, you know, when we used to meet the VIP, what to give, what money cannot buy. So, this is what,

02:21:16.080 so this is something with money cannot buy. When we meet VIP, they can buy anything. So,

02:21:21.440 So this thing, money cannot buy.

02:21:22.960 After I put it on eBay, I'm going to make a lot.

02:21:26.080 Sorry?

02:21:26.600 Did I take it back then?

02:21:28.520 What they said?

02:21:29.220 I was like,

02:21:29.660 eBay and make a lot of money.

02:21:32.220 No, there was a time, you know,

02:21:33.660 there was a time that I gave a cloth of Kaaba and Madinah to one of them.

02:21:38.480 He said, can I sell it and give it to him?

02:21:39.640 I said, yes.

02:21:40.320 So he sold it a very high price and he gave that money for only.

02:21:42.560 I said, good. 0.76

02:21:44.160 So he gives the cloth of that kishwa and the... 0.99

02:21:48.560 Thank you so much.

02:21:49.820 It's a pleasure, inshaAllah.

02:21:51.440 thank you so much it was an absolute pleasure getting the chance to speak to you i've been

02:22:01.080 looking forward to this for several days i hope that the questions were were good i hope you

02:22:05.780 enjoyed the conversation if you can give a copy of that if you don't mind absolutely of the so

02:22:09.660 that we can yeah absolutely yes we can give a copy of the recording well it's not film quality

02:22:14.220 25 000. this tripod's about 50 dollars not 25 000. no problem no problem the next time for social

02:22:21.260 media will be fine so again you wonder if we take uh let's take a photo ways sure let's take over one

02:22:27.100 and then all of us and i think he wants one on his phone as well yeah the only expensive thing

02:22:41.260 i have with this before that one it's a nice case right there no no we get more expensive

02:22:45.900 mobiles also you know the oh you do what's your what you want what you're more expensive

02:22:52.620 you know what you know what your phone you know iphone no no iphone is the best normal phone

02:23:00.140 but the most expensive mobile is virtue you don't know no because half a million dollar and more

02:23:04.620 I thought it was half a million so this that's one I got give it over to somebody else so this

02:23:13.980 is the only expensive thing I keep because for technology and for dava come on in I didn't get

02:23:24.540 I'll give you the chance to say Salaamu Alaikum to you there, bro.

02:23:26.540 No, no, just sit there, sit there.

02:23:40.540 There's like 10 cameras.

02:23:42.540 What do you phone with the status symbol?

02:23:50.540 Okay, Maghreb.

02:23:54.540 It's happening about business, creating this time.

02:23:58.540 It's my pleasure.

02:24:01.540 Yes.

02:24:03.540 Sneakho keeps getting mugged. 1.00

02:24:05.540 Jezakallah for you the opportunity. 0.90

02:24:07.540 Yes, sir.

02:24:09.540 They're leaving to Jakarta tomorrow.

02:24:11.540 Tomorrow.

02:24:15.540 So they're having some talks.

02:24:17.540 Did you keep any talks on there? 0.89

02:24:21.540 It's called a Sneakho.

02:24:22.540 Let's sneak off.

02:24:23.540 We're having a different talk.

02:24:25.540 It's more like a podcast recording so far.

02:24:27.540 Uh-huh.

02:24:29.540 I've seen this view.

02:24:33.540 Someone had the loudest camera of all time.

02:24:36.540 What is that camera?

02:24:37.540 I've never had that one before.

02:24:38.540 Is that a Canon?

02:24:40.540 No, someone that was like beeping in the back.

02:24:44.540 Who was the guy who ran up on you?

02:24:46.540 that's an aggressive alarm for the for prayer you want to make sure you don't miss the prayer 0.60

02:24:58.600 no in jamaat no one's very rare but always in jamaat because they're one of the reasons

02:25:04.840 i feel praying in jamaat is the first not praying praying in jamaat in the mosque

02:25:08.760 the difference opening but i believe that if you miss in jamaat that becomes when i come here

02:25:14.980 unless you're traveling which i am so technically i can skip my good right

02:25:21.700 no you can join don't skip you can't skip but if i can do both yes you can join yeah

02:25:25.860 so you can join you can join the war and asa together you have that delivery so when you

02:25:29.460 travel it different and you don't have to play the sunnah but this is a weird one because technically

02:25:33.060 i'm always traveling because i have uh i live in miami and new york and i'm always abroad you can

02:25:38.820 and follow it. We have two options, either pray in the Jamaat or you can join both of them.

02:25:46.820 I prefer the prayer. Do you want to head down to go to the Masjid?

02:25:52.820 What time is the same for me?

02:25:54.020 We have to do it, Azhar is already in this.

02:25:55.620 Let's go, let's go.

SHNEAKO - April 19, 2026

SNEAKO Interviews Dr Zakir Naik： Unite the Ummah

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