SHNEAKO - SNEAKO Interviews George Galloway： Right and Wrong, not Left and Right

00:00:00.000 Then we found out that a million people in Iraq were killed for no reason, that there were no 0.99

00:00:03.840 weapons of mass destruction, repeating this mistake to a T right now with Iran. And I'm 1.00

00:00:08.500 getting deja vu. It feels like I am in a twilight zone hearing the same propaganda repeated without

00:00:13.480 people seeming to be aware of it. Is this a repeat of Iraq war? You've summed it up perfectly. 0.66

00:00:20.080 That's exactly where we are now. Only one letter of a difference, as Donald Trump clumsily put it

00:00:26.920 just the other day. All the same commentators, the same newspapers, the same television channels,

00:00:32.500 the same political class that are telling us all the things about Iran that they previously told

00:00:39.080 us about Iraq. I mean, the whole message for me of the Epstein affair is not that Epstein was a

00:00:46.440 filthy degenerate. That much we can all agree on. The issue is that Epstein and his circle 0.80

00:00:53.680 were doing this deliberately to entrap American politicians and American influencers in the

00:01:01.680 economy, in the media, and so on, to blackmail them. Hey, George, can you hear me? Yes, Nico,

00:01:10.480 very good to meet you. Great to meet you, George. I'm super happy to finally get the chance to speak

00:01:15.680 you. My children were very excited at the invitation and some of them are in the studio

00:01:24.120 with me now, so they may want to have a quick hello with you. Yeah, sure. Before we start

00:01:30.460 yapping. Before we go on air. Absolutely. Toran Mustaqim. What are their names? My

00:01:41.900 My youngest son is Toran Mustaqim, George Galloway.

00:01:46.060 My eldest son is Zayn, George Galloway.

00:01:49.600 Here's Toran now.

00:01:51.560 Hello.

00:01:52.160 Say salaam.

00:01:53.140 Hey.

00:01:54.260 Salaam alaikum.

00:01:54.980 How are you?

00:01:58.180 Nice to meet you, bro.

00:01:59.300 He can't hear you.

00:02:00.500 He can't hear you.

00:02:01.380 Oh, okay. 0.97

00:02:01.820 He's returning your salaam. 0.97

00:02:03.640 Okay.

00:02:04.960 Nice to meet you. 1.00

00:02:05.560 Hope is Ramadan. 0.98

00:02:06.760 It was good, inshallah. 0.98

00:02:08.620 Yeah, it was, yeah.

00:02:10.280 Well, yeah, I'm very happy that you were able to take this time to...

00:02:15.820 It's good. Is this a new departure for you, political interviews?

00:02:19.900 No, recently I've interviewed Professor Zhang.

00:02:22.380 I've interviewed Professor Mirandi.

00:02:24.880 He is a professor in Iran.

00:02:27.740 He works for the University of Tehran.

00:02:29.680 Yeah, he's a regular guest.

00:02:32.060 In fact, I take some credit for introducing him to the world.

00:02:36.500 He's a superb communicator, really superb.

00:02:40.900 Well, you know, I have to give you your credit.

00:02:42.720 I've seen you on Piers Morgan.

00:02:44.160 I've seen your interviews.

00:02:45.340 I've been researching a lot in preparation, 1.00

00:02:48.020 and you do a great job destroying these Zionists. 1.00

00:02:51.220 And looking into your history, 1.00

00:02:52.260 it seems like you're one of the first people

00:02:55.040 to really be supportive of Palestinian resistance.

00:02:58.580 So we appreciate that.

00:03:00.020 It must have not been easy.

00:03:01.120 You have 50 years.

00:03:02.020 50 years.

00:03:02.740 50 years.

00:03:03.240 I could show you my scars.

00:03:06.080 Yeah, I mean, do you actually have real scars?

00:03:09.900 I do, actually. That's why I wear a hat.

00:03:12.920 I was attacked by a guy in an Israeli army uniform in 2014 in broad daylight in the middle of the street in London when I was a member of parliament.

00:03:24.540 I was hospitalized and I got scars on my head.

00:03:29.280 so i started to wear this hat and it became my my emblem my motif you might say so uh well it

00:03:38.440 suits you this thank you the scars have healed but i kept the hat do you mind i don't know if

00:03:45.700 you if you want to show them i'm not trying to put you on the spot yeah no you wouldn't you

00:03:50.340 wouldn't see them the they're faded that's fine but that's good it was it was quite a horrific

00:03:56.220 The guy got 22 months in prison for it. Although, of course, he only served half of that in the liberal justice system in this country. And then he was flown to an Israeli kibbutz for rest and recuperation. They had a big fundraising drive for him. So none of this started on October 7.

00:04:20.200 Absolutely not. It seems like you started to realize what was going on in 1977.

00:04:25.480 You took a trip to Beirut and Lebanon. I got to see Lebanon in 2024.

00:04:31.320 Great place, great people. What did you learn on that trip?

00:04:34.700 Why did you get to understand that this started way before October 7, 23?

00:04:39.980 Well, of course, Lebanon in the south and also in Beirut and also north in Tripoli

00:04:46.220 It was full of Palestinian refugees then

00:04:50.440 who had been driven out of Jordan in black September of 1970. 0.79

00:04:56.920 And these camps are engraved in my heart now.

00:05:02.460 And the friends that I made them

00:05:05.120 and the promises that I gave to them

00:05:08.060 that I would never leave them standing alone,

00:05:12.580 I believe that I've kept. 0.52

00:05:15.180 But the Palestinian presence in Palestine, which was not by choice, they wanted to be in Palestine, but they were forced into Lebanon and that presence caused a lot of problems for the Lebanese. 0.64

00:05:31.240 And then later, after the PLO had left Beirut under a bogus U.S.-brokered agreement, we had the massacre of Sabra and Shatila when all the Palestinian men had left. Their wives and children were then set upon by wolves.

00:05:51.120 And then the emergence of the Muslim Shiite presence in Lebanon 0.98

00:06:01.000 In the south of the city of Beirut and in the south of the country

00:06:04.400 Began to be a political factor

00:06:08.100 Which it was not in the 1970s 0.87

00:06:11.260 So I was there in this cause before Hamas existed 0.89

00:06:16.480 Before Hezbollah existed 0.98

00:06:19.460 before the Shiite Muslims in Lebanon

00:06:24.000 were even a recognized political force.

00:06:27.700 So the agony of Lebanon has been so prolonged,

00:06:33.160 it's almost difficult to compute. 1.00

00:06:36.880 I mean, I see the Israelis are now trying to take the south of the country 0.99

00:06:41.860 right up to the Letani River.

00:06:44.360 But when I was there, they already occupied exactly that piece of ground and they were driven out by the resistance and they'll be driven out again.

00:06:56.460 The Lebanese people are the hardiest, most resilient, most steadfast people you could possibly meet.

00:07:05.140 Yeah, and a lot of them are Christians.

00:07:06.580 So the narrative in America is that they're all Muslim, but Lebanon has so many Catholics. 1.00

00:07:11.260 They have Druze.

00:07:12.220 They have Orthodox.

00:07:13.820 They have a bit of everything.

00:07:14.980 It's not just specific to Shias or Sunni.

00:07:18.240 This is something that Americans don't seem to understand. 0.95

00:07:20.240 And I read that you were falsely detained by counterterrorism in Gatwick Airport in London, which is pretty funny because you spelled it out correctly. 0.82

00:07:30.940 These groups like Hezbollah and Hamas did not exist without Israeli occupation. 0.99

00:07:35.220 They are, in fact, a derivative of Israeli occupation.

00:07:38.560 Why were you detained by counterterrorism? 0.95

00:07:41.900 Well, if I may, on the first part, first, we now this day have a situation where Christians are hiding Muslims in their attics.

00:07:55.480 And Israeli soldiers are searching for them house to house.

00:08:00.040 How redolent of the Holocaust, how redolent of World War II in occupied Europe is that they made Schindler's List all about a Christian man doing his best to protect Jews.

00:08:15.200 Now we've got Christian families in South Lebanon doing their best to protect Lebanese Muslims from people who claim at least to be Jews.

00:08:27.500 That's something we might explore later on. 0.62

00:08:31.200 But, yeah, I mean, this broke to the world when I was on the Tucker Carlson show.

00:08:37.000 So the long version can be found in my interview with Tucker Carlson.

00:08:42.660 But effectively, my good wife and I returned to my own country and her country of residence. She's Indonesian. We have three British children and a house in Scotland.

00:08:57.780 and we never imagined for a second, and I mean a second, that armed police officers

00:09:06.420 would detain us in a British airport, something that's never happened to me in travelling

00:09:12.880 across the whole world multiple times. I saw these armed men and some women come towards me

00:09:21.640 and I suddenly realized they were coming for me and I said to them this is a very bad idea guys

00:09:30.660 and they said I said are you sure you want to do this and they said well we've been told to

00:09:38.200 do this as indeed they had by the British government which is presently got more than

00:09:45.020 2 000 people under arrest under the terrorism act for holding up placards saying that they support

00:09:54.940 a palestinian non-violent civil disobedience organization called palestine action who've

00:10:02.460 never so much as harmed a fly but who are now under terrorism charges and actually some of

00:10:13.260 these people that are under arrest are in their 90s i'm not making this up many are in their 80s

00:10:21.020 hundreds are in their 70s the their grandmas they are retired vicars of the church of england and

00:10:30.700 they are on terrorism charges notwithstanding that i thought that someone like me a member

00:10:39.820 of the British Parliament, elected seven times across five decades from the 1980s until a little

00:10:49.900 over a year ago. One of the best known people in the country, whether people like me or they don't

00:10:56.040 like me, they all know me. And I've got armed policemen arresting me under the terrorism charge

00:11:03.680 and they held me for five hours they held my good wife for six hours she had a palestinian flag

00:11:10.880 on her fingernail as nail varnish basically and painted in the palestinian colors they grilled

00:11:19.940 her about her fingernail that's how insane the situation has become in western countries including

00:11:28.420 your own well the terrorists are called the victims and the victims are called the terrorists

00:11:34.780 and anyone who sympathizes with the victims is accused of terrorism that's how absurd it all

00:11:43.540 is so we basically left my home country in which i've lived all of my life and it's been a long

00:11:50.800 life. We've we've left the country because my wife certainly not prepared to live in a foreign 0.99

00:11:59.300 country in which she gets held by gun toting cops on terrorism charges. Every accusation is a

00:12:06.460 confession with them. And you pointed out a correct analogy to Nazi Germany. The Schindler's 0.83

00:12:12.200 list is part of that propaganda machine talking about them harboring people in their attics.

00:12:17.080 This is happening right now. We've seen, I'm sure you saw Ben Gavir, one of the leaders of Neset, which is Israeli Congress, celebrating and bragging about the noose that he's going to hang Palestinian prisoners for the death penalty.

00:12:30.320 And I think this is the first time that we've seen since Nazi Germany a death penalty applied to one group of people, but not to another. 0.84

00:12:38.000 So only Palestinian prisoners are subject to this death penalty, something that Jewish prisoners in Israel are not subject to.

00:12:44.680 What comparisons can we make between Nazi Germany and the Israeli terrorists of today? 0.65

00:12:51.960 Well, Ben Gavir literally cracked open a bottle of champagne on the parliament floor and was passing around the goods.

00:13:02.800 This man is widely regarded as a fascist, and it's one of the greatest ironies in history.

00:13:11.980 I was born in the shadow of the Second World War. The pictures of the Holocaust, the foul nature of Nazism, of fascism, was something that informed my whole life.

00:13:27.360 And now we are seeing, only 80 years later, we are seeing an echo of what happened to the Jews in occupied Europe.

00:13:41.000 What is Gaza but the Warsaw Ghetto?

00:13:44.400 What is the destruction of houses, virtually every house in the Gaza Strip, but the raising of the Warsaw Ghetto? 0.52

00:13:55.300 What is this one-nation death penalty but an echo of the Nazi-era laws which punished Jews and punished non-Jewish Germans so very differently? 0.63

00:14:12.620 Day after day, we see the Jews behaving like the Nazis and the Palestinians behaving like the hunted, reviled, subhumanized Jews of the Nazi era.

00:14:29.840 So, I mean, irony doesn't really live up to such double standards. 0.51

00:14:36.940 We need a stronger word for irony. I just can't think of one.

00:14:42.620 this is a grotesque monstrosity that the people who suffered so much are now making, and other 1.00

00:14:51.120 people suffer so much, and that people, the Palestinian people, did nothing to them, ever. 0.89

00:14:59.180 Palestinian Arabs, Muslims, Christians, and Jews lived together in perfect harmony in Jerusalem

00:15:07.640 and in the Holy Land until the emergence of this foul ideology of Zionism, which has so many

00:15:17.080 comparisons with the ideology of fascism itself. In your history in politics, it seems like it's 0.82

00:15:25.260 very successful at gaining a populist movement from both sides. A lot of people like Stephen

00:15:31.180 Yaxley, Lenin, Tommy Robinson, Epstein associate, he will try to alienate Muslims. But from what 0.86

00:15:38.280 I've read, it seems like you have an appeal with so many white voters, white Christian voters that

00:15:43.100 want to put Britain first, and also with the growing Muslim population in the UK. Have you,

00:15:50.140 I'm sure you've already spelled out how much pushback you faced for, you know, the counter

00:15:55.260 But how can you describe this movement, you know, your history in the Workers' Party and your appeal to different demographics in the UK?

00:16:07.020 Well, it's not easy, of course. It's a very simple task to sell racism or hatred of a particular group to an electorate that has been systematically confused and misled all of their lives.

00:16:29.500 And that's what people like Robinson, I don't normally mention his name, but as you have, I will. That's what they do. They feed on a legitimate anger amongst the British population at how miserable their lives are, how miserable their outlook is, how miserable their future appears to be.

00:16:52.060 and they seek to blame it on the other.

00:16:56.700 Blame it on Johnny Forerner.

00:16:59.360 Blame it on that guy that's a little bit darker than you.

00:17:03.320 Blame it on that guy that prays differently to you

00:17:06.520 or eats different food to you.

00:17:08.560 And by the way, that is exactly what happened

00:17:11.500 in the early part of the 20th century

00:17:14.500 in relation to Jewish immigration.

00:17:18.120 Fleeing pogroms in Russia and in Eastern Europe, many Jews ended in Britain and were subjected to exactly the same kind of scapegoating. 0.90

00:17:30.940 Now, it's Muslims. Earlier in my life, by the way, it was Irish.

00:17:34.240 I am half Scottish, half Irish, and the Irish part of me had some difficult times in my own life, but far more difficult times in the life of many other Irish people. 0.98

00:17:49.160 So it's easy to blame the black guy, the Irish guy, the Muslim guy. It's easy to feast like a vulture on that and gain certain political traction.

00:18:03.680 But we, in the Workers' Party, we say we all have different identities.

00:18:09.600 I support Celtic, you support Rangers.

00:18:12.060 I support Manchester United, you support Chelsea.

00:18:15.180 I'm a Catholic, you're a Protestant.

00:18:18.680 I'm brown or black, you're white or pink.

00:18:23.960 We've all got different identities.

00:18:25.720 Some are gay, some are straight.

00:18:29.200 Everybody's got different identities, multiple identities.

00:18:32.740 but we have one overarching identity and that is our relationship to wealth and power and the people

00:18:43.080 who have wealth and power have an obvious vested interest in keeping us divided one against the

00:18:52.600 other segmenting us you're gay you're straight you're trans you're this they want us all fighting

00:19:00.780 against each other so that we don't fight against them and if you look at it that way it's kind of

00:19:08.040 abc it's divide and rule of which britain was the preeminent practitioner at least since the roman

00:19:15.940 empire i completely agree you you spell that out perfectly this is it sounds parallel to what's

00:19:22.380 happening in america you have the far left and the far right it seems like both want to get rid of

00:19:26.660 Israeli influence and AIPAC-funded politicians, but so many of them are divided on small culture

00:19:33.440 war issues like transgenderism, like ICE, and it seems like these issues are planted in order to

00:19:38.700 keep us divided and fighting each other. How do we separate ourselves from these divisive minor

00:19:44.980 issues while the same country rapes and pillages and takes all of our resources for themselves?

00:19:50.420 well it's it's what freud called the narcissism of the small difference find a small difference

00:19:58.940 between you and me color for example i'm a slightly different color from you you from me

00:20:04.840 and find that small difference and magnify it this uh kind of narcissism we see all the time 1.00

00:20:15.360 with the American liberals are up in arms about Trump talking about grabbing women by the pussy 1.00

00:20:25.020 and so on. These liberal preoccupations are fixated upon. By the way, I think Trump is a 1.00

00:20:33.400 beast and what he said was horrific. But what he's doing now is a hundred times, thousand times 0.98

00:20:41.060 worse and more serious but if you concentrate on his language on his vulgarity on his plastering

00:20:53.740 the oval office in what looks like gold but as Shakespeare told us all that glisters is not gold

00:20:59.820 if you fixate on these things then you are missing the big picture so what I urge people always to do

00:21:09.620 is look at the big picture rise above the things that will divide us and unite on the things that

00:21:18.640 will really make a difference and you touched on a great point there i have never known and i've

00:21:24.100 been in it 50 years as we've just discussed i never imagined that the day would come when more

00:21:31.780 people in america would support the palestinian cause than would support israel let's concentrate

00:21:38.840 on that let's make that uh meaningful make it happen start electing people who don't just reject

00:21:49.020 apac money but will campaign for justice for the palestinian people and an end to this deeply

00:21:58.860 deeply unhealthy relationship which your country has with a tiny country of nine million people 0.99

00:22:06.140 on the Mediterranean. I mean, the whole message for me of the Epstein affair is not that Epstein

00:22:14.280 was a filthy degenerate, that much we can all agree on. The issue is that Epstein and his circle

00:22:23.800 were doing this deliberately to entrap American politicians and American influencers in the

00:22:33.940 economy and the media and so on to blackmail them so that they could never break from an

00:22:41.940 unending support for israel that's the big picture of the epstein affair i know we're speaking on the

00:22:49.200 day that bondi was beached uh and uh she's getting the uh she's getting the blame but it's trump

00:22:57.080 that stopped the epstein affair from being properly investigated and you don't have to be

00:23:02.460 sherlock holmes to work out why she was telling americans to look at the dow instead and so we

00:23:09.800 haven't seen all these files released look at the dow well now we can look at the fact that she's

00:23:15.540 fired so maybe she can start an only fans or get a new position best of luck to her i wish and the

00:23:22.240 dough the and the dough ain't looking as good as it did the day that she said that it's looking

00:23:27.900 down. She was saying that it's above 50,000. It's now 46,000. So we're looking at the Epstein files

00:23:33.840 and at the tanking stock market. So a lot of people have classified you as a socialist. And

00:23:40.540 this comes from a new perspective I have on politics where I don't classify myself. And I

00:23:46.940 think a lot of people that watch the stream agree that saying you're left and right, it's all

00:23:51.360 divisive. So I've been very supportive of somebody like Zoram Amdani, who has been correct. And as

00:23:56.140 you spelled it out. He has spoken up for the Palestinian cause. There are also people in

00:24:01.000 Florida. James Fishback is running for governor and he refuses to take APAC money and he's a

00:24:05.600 Republican. So this is the major issue. Have you been criticized and people are calling you far

00:24:11.420 left? And where would you classify yourself? Do you call yourself a socialist? Because again,

00:24:16.000 I get called a communist by people on the right. They're saying that you shouldn't align with

00:24:20.520 people like Momdani because they're communists. But then also you hear from the left,

00:24:24.620 they're going to say that I'm a Nazi. But again, how should we start to understand socialist

00:24:32.120 politics and where would you put yourself on the political scale? Well, I never describe myself as

00:24:38.660 left because the left now means liberal. And I ain't no liberal, bro. I'm a traditional guy.

00:24:47.960 I have traditional values

00:24:51.480 I believe in God

00:24:53.500 I'm opposed to abortion

00:24:55.680 I'm opposed to euthanasia

00:24:57.720 I'm against drugs

00:24:58.900 I'm against alcohol

00:25:00.020 I'm a traditional guy

00:25:02.340 and nobody on the left

00:25:05.380 wants to associate with God

00:25:09.720 God is dead on the left

00:25:13.280 I'm definitely not on the right

00:25:16.240 Because the rights support

00:25:19.660 The economic system that we have in your country and mine

00:25:23.880 Which has enslaved not just the slaves 1.00

00:25:27.900 It enslaved the non-slaves 0.99

00:25:30.620 Who were wage slaves 0.99

00:25:32.400 And who earned just about enough to have enough to eat

00:25:36.480 And be clothed enough to turn up for work the next day

00:25:40.040 And whose labor was the only thing that they had to sell

00:25:44.840 So I'm not left or right. I'm a socialist. A very great mentor of mine, the late and great Mr. Tony Benn. He used to say, when you say it, put a hyphen. I'm a socialist.

00:26:01.020 In other words, for me, common sense socialism is that some things are too important to leave to the Donald Trumps of this world, the private sector, the Lutniks and all the other capitalists that postulate around Donald Trump.

00:26:24.200 Some things in life are too important, only to be determined by how much money you have.

00:26:31.660 It's one of the great ironies. I'm sorry to digress.

00:26:35.540 But Americans don't have free education, don't have free health,

00:26:42.080 but they're supporting Israel with billions and billions and billions of dollars.

00:26:47.900 And they do have free education. They do have free health.

00:26:53.080 So you're subsidizing them for things that your own people don't have.

00:27:00.060 So some things like health, like education.

00:27:04.500 I mean, you wouldn't believe how poor my background was.

00:27:08.920 I mean, and there's no point in a sob story about it.

00:27:12.500 But I came from the streets.

00:27:14.100 And by a combination of of socialist ideas, I was able to get an education, not a university one.

00:27:27.540 I never went to university. I'm I'm a factory worker, but I was able to learn the love of reading and learning that has fueled me all of my life.

00:27:43.540 I didn't just have free health care.

00:27:47.580 I got a bottle of milk every day because I was poor.

00:27:51.560 I got a bottle of orange juice every day.

00:27:54.380 I got a bottle of cod liver oil every day.

00:27:58.160 That's the brief period of socialism that people of my age enjoyed as working class people in my country.

00:28:11.020 Now, everybody should have that.

00:28:13.540 Everyone should be able to go to school for as long as their ability warrants it.

00:28:19.540 Everybody should be able to get a nutritional breakfast, a nutritional school lunch.

00:28:26.540 Everybody should get their books and whatever else they need at school, not depending on how wealthy they are, but because they're citizens, because they're humans living in our country at this time.

00:28:40.000 For me, that's socialism. Now, I don't believe in the state running everything. I spend much of my time in China. There's plenty of capitalism in China.

00:28:54.560 But the state has the guiding hand on the economy and it will not allow vast discrepancies between rich and poor to coexist either between one Chinese person and another or one region of China and another.

00:29:13.940 They are desperately seeking to drag up the once impoverished and underdeveloped parts of China. 0.86

00:29:24.140 And anyone who's been to China or anyone who's just watched the pictures can tell that that system is superior to ours.

00:29:34.640 China has 50,000 square miles of high speed rail.

00:29:40.360 And by the way, Sneeko, when I say high-speed rail, I'm talking 300 kilometers an hour.

00:29:47.320 I'm talking about high-speed rail that feels like you're in one of Elon Musk's rockets.

00:29:55.220 Do you know how many square miles the United States has of high-speed rail?

00:30:02.640 Zero. Nothing.

00:30:04.120 You have not one kilometer of high-speed railway in your country, but you're going around the world bombing people, invading people, thinking you're the masters of the universe.

00:30:18.080 Well, the streets of Philadelphia, the streets of San Francisco are an absolute disgrace to any country, never mind the country that styles itself as the greatest country in the world.

00:30:34.120 I mean, Trump just said in a speech yesterday that daycare is not a priority because they have to go and funnel these wars.

00:30:41.380 Rubio goes and says, Iran, perhaps they'd be a better country if they didn't focus so much on the military budget.

00:30:47.280 And the irony is right in front of our faces and insulting because they are asking the Pentagon for 200 billion more dollars to fight this war that nobody can even justify properly.

00:30:59.980 So many Americans are apprehensive to this idea

00:31:02.980 because the demonization of communism

00:31:05.580 is embedded into our country.

00:31:08.360 We are told to hate this

00:31:09.580 and that it's the most evil ideology,

00:31:11.960 but Israel, our greatest ally,

00:31:13.940 they, as you correctly spelled out,

00:31:15.600 they have free healthcare,

00:31:16.820 they have free education,

00:31:17.700 but over here, 0.81

00:31:19.220 why don't we have free healthcare

00:31:20.500 for the world's empire?

00:31:22.620 We have all this money.

00:31:23.920 Why are people suffering

00:31:25.000 and they have to wonder

00:31:26.140 if they should even get treatment for cancer

00:31:28.240 while billions and trillions of dollars go to these wars.

00:31:31.860 As soon as we are able to let go of that,

00:31:34.120 I think people could see that our citizens should be the priority

00:31:37.560 and not being the world's police.

00:31:41.000 Exactly.

00:31:41.560 I was going to say that the irony of Trump's comments yesterday

00:31:46.220 were lost on him, but they weren't entirely

00:31:48.500 because they've removed that clip from all of the internet.

00:31:54.400 But they forgot that actually the internet is forever.

00:31:58.240 and we can now all see it and hear him say that he can't do daycare,

00:32:04.140 he can't do Medicaid, he can't do these things

00:32:07.680 that the American people desperately need because we fight wars.

00:32:13.100 That's what he said, his very words.

00:32:15.720 We fight wars, so we can't do these other things.

00:32:20.640 Well, if you did a charity collection in the streets of New York

00:32:26.480 and rattled a can in front of people. 0.53

00:32:30.600 Give for the next Tomahawk missile. 0.99

00:32:33.900 Give now for a bigger budget for the Pentagon.

00:32:38.320 How many people do you think would put money in that tin?

00:32:40.880 Nobody.

00:32:41.460 Precious few. Precious few.

00:32:44.260 Maybe a couple of people in the Epstein neighborhood.

00:32:46.480 But other than that, the majority of the citizens would not contribute.

00:32:49.400 There are far greater problems.

00:32:52.020 What comparisons can we make between the UK and America?

00:32:56.360 Because I think you crushed Piers and you were talking about how Piers was trying to demonize the Iranian government and say that they're backwards.

00:33:05.100 And I think some similarities between Keir Starmer and Donald Trump are that Keir Starmer, one, he has married into a Jewish family similar to how Trump's daughter, Ivanka Trump, is married into Jared Kushner's family.

00:33:16.140 And so now his daughter has converted.

00:33:18.860 Where do you see those sort of comparisons and especially your criticism of the Iraq war, which the UK supported?

00:33:27.100 I'll tell you what, our king is headed your way. I'm very sorry about that.

00:33:32.100 He's a congenital idiot and we just must hope that his trousers don't fall down on the stage, the biggest stage that he's going to be on. 0.99

00:33:43.080 I don't know which parts he's visiting, but you'll regard him as a bit of a Mr. Bean. 1.00

00:33:49.680 But he's been forced to come on this because Dharma cannot bear the withering criticism of himself

00:34:00.180 that Donald Trump is currently daily issuing because the United Kingdom has for so long pitifully held on

00:34:11.480 to the coattails of one American president after another. Oscar Wilde said we were two countries

00:34:18.780 divided by a common language. We're actually not all that divided anymore. Everything that you do

00:34:26.220 that's bad, we do in one form or another. And we left the European Union, but we never left

00:34:35.320 the grisly embrace of the American empire.

00:34:40.480 We had certain snobbish beliefs

00:34:46.680 that we were America's brain.

00:34:50.140 America had the muscle,

00:34:51.820 but because we're much older

00:34:53.640 and we were once, of course,

00:34:55.880 the occupier of your country,

00:34:58.580 we were the brains.

00:35:01.460 We were Greece,

00:35:02.900 and America was Rome,

00:35:04.540 which was of course at least to an affectation of the Romans was that they were a continuation

00:35:12.620 of Greek civilization that's kind of how the British elite saw the relationship but they

00:35:20.800 didn't realize that actually the American ruling class doesn't give a toss about us and as soon as

00:35:31.740 We even, by a scintilla, differed from the policy of the American ruling class. We would be trashed just as severely as little Macron is being trashed now by Trump yesterday, humiliating him on stage.

00:35:50.580 We would be trashed just like the Danish were trashed because they didn't want Donald Trump taking 25 percent of their national territory and making it part of the United States.

00:36:04.660 So there are many lessons being learned right now. The world is being reshaped in front of our eyes. The Iran war has demonstrated not the power of the American empire, but the sunset of the American empire.

00:36:23.800 And didn't Trump get elected claiming that he'd put America first, that he would make America great again?

00:36:32.960 If he'd gone around the country saying, I'll make Israel great again, I'll make Israel first, he would never have been elected.

00:36:43.160 He lied to the people of America who believed that he was some kind of human hand grenade that you could throw into the salons of America's elite that had such contempt for the ordinary people of America.

00:37:01.300 Hillary Clinton and her basket of deplorables, their obvious contempt for the great majority of the American people.

00:37:13.160 People in 2016, especially, took the opportunity to throw a human hand grenade in amongst them, and that hand grenade was Donald Trump. But he was a damp squib. He didn't do any of the things that he promised to do. He didn't lock them up. 0.80

00:37:32.680 He didn't bust the cartels wide open. In fact, in this second term, especially, he has shown himself to be just like all the rest. And now the Americans have got to look for a new solution to their problems.

00:37:53.380 I don't know what that's going to be. I don't know who's on the horizon. And I'm not a big supporter of Mamdani. But he did show that another world is possible. Another New York City was possible. That you could unite the disparate population of New York into a winning electoral coalition. Maybe you should go into politics, son. You seem to have the right stuff.

00:38:22.240 we'll see i'm just a streamer i'm here to do these interviews and speak to people like you

00:38:26.740 this is uh something in the future mom donnie i mean i'm in new york city he's very popular and

00:38:31.420 i think he's doing a great job so far again i don't agree with everything he said but you got

00:38:35.300 to give him credit where it's doing you're right trump just said in a speech i think two days ago

00:38:40.260 that without me israel wouldn't exist without me israel wouldn't be the great place it was and

00:38:46.480 you're right he didn't drain the swamp and even more importantly one of the main things he 0.54

00:38:49.900 campaigned on was building the wall and fixing immigration and he's been very slow to release

00:38:56.200 the deportation numbers and reveal how many immigrants illegal immigrants have been deported

00:39:01.680 and instead of deporting the illegal immigrants and focusing on the real problem he spent so

00:39:07.500 much time calling Somalian people low IQ talking about the fraud that's in Minnesota instead of

00:39:12.420 the fraud that's happening in Lakewood New Jersey which is very similar to the rhetoric you see in 0.78

00:39:17.720 the UK from people like Tommy Rubenstein saying that the Muslim immigration is a problem, even

00:39:23.700 though you definitely know this immigration issue happens because people like the administration

00:39:29.960 in the US and the UK bomb these countries and create so many immigrants. And then they go in

00:39:35.900 instead of blaming the people that are causing the wars, they blame the immigrants. The difference

00:39:40.260 between the US and America is that Muslims, for example, and he loves to call Somalians low IQ,

00:39:45.920 they make up around one to two percent of the population. In the UK, it's a little bit more.

00:39:51.500 What would you say about the rising sentiment of mass immigration in the UK?

00:39:58.740 Well, we're against mass immigration. We're the workers party. You don't need to be

00:40:04.940 Einstein to work out that when the labor force increases, the price of labor falls. And it's my

00:40:13.600 job as the as the the union negotiator for the British working class to get the best wages and 0.99

00:40:21.360 the best conditions that we can so we oppose mass immigration not just for that reason mass

00:40:27.700 immigration beggars impoverishes the countries from which the mass immigration is coming 0.98

00:40:35.080 And their health service suffers because we take their doctors and nurses. 1.00

00:40:42.740 Their brain drain impoverishes their country and fuels a much more wealthy capitalist country in the Western Hemisphere.

00:40:56.140 So we're against mass immigration, but every country needs immigration.

00:41:00.480 and nobody knows that better

00:41:03.080 than the United States of America

00:41:05.160 because frankly

00:41:06.700 if you allow me to say so

00:41:08.780 you're all immigrants 0.98

00:41:10.340 unless your name is Sitting Bull 1.00

00:41:12.640 you are an immigrant 1.00

00:41:14.540 you came to that 1.00

00:41:17.100 country with guns 1.00

00:41:18.660 and took the land 0.53

00:41:20.380 of the people whose land 0.99

00:41:22.480 it legitimately was

00:41:23.780 then you shipped millions of 0.99

00:41:26.400 black Africans 1.00

00:41:27.700 in chains to work on your plantations as human beasts of burden. So I always find it difficult 1.00

00:41:37.720 to accept Americans complaining about immigration. But every country has the right to a border.

00:41:46.240 If it doesn't have a border, it isn't a country. And if it has a border, it has to protect it.

00:41:51.620 It can't just allow anybody to come across its border, into its territory.

00:41:59.460 You have to know who.

00:42:01.340 You have to know why people are coming into your country.

00:42:06.180 So we take a position very different to Farage and Robinson and so on. 0.96

00:42:15.080 And for the reason you alluded, that these people support the wars that create the flows of refugees in the first place. 0.93

00:42:27.480 Robinson is a massive supporter of Israel. 0.54

00:42:31.780 So is Faraj. 0.76

00:42:33.360 Both of them support the current war on Iran. 0.88

00:42:37.020 How many refugees do you think are going to end up in Western Europe from the human flows of misery that are going to result from mass killing and destruction on this scale?

00:42:54.880 And then you're going to blame the refugee when the refugee fled from a war that you supported?

00:43:00.620 It is monstrous as a piece of hypocrisy, but it doesn't stop them. 0.90

00:43:08.240 They don't even blush. 0.72

00:43:10.100 Ben Gavir said in the BB Files documentary that Tucker Carlson just published,

00:43:14.400 he said himself when he's asked,

00:43:15.960 what are you going to do about all these displaced people in Palestine?

00:43:18.880 Ben Gavir says, well, Europe has some space. 1.00

00:43:21.780 Just send them into Europe. 0.87

00:43:23.320 So the people that are supporting Israel are the ones responsible for the mass immigration, 0.89

00:43:29.840 but they don't take the real responsibility. I saw many moments, and I think where you gained 0.83

00:43:36.880 a lot of credibility, especially in America, is your opposition to the war in Iraq. How could

00:43:42.640 you describe the English involvement in this war? And what comparisons can we make to Iran war right

00:43:48.840 now? Because, you know, I'm younger and I grew up during the Iraq war where the lies of weapons 0.86

00:43:54.560 of mass destruction were spread every day. We heard all the propaganda about how backwards they were.

00:43:58.940 Then we found out that a million people in Iraq were killed for no reason, that there were no weapons of mass destruction, and we're repeating this mistake to a T right now with Iran. 0.99

00:44:08.920 And I'm getting deja vu. It feels like I am in a twilight zone hearing the same propaganda repeated without people seeming to be aware of it. 0.98

00:44:17.440 Is this a repeat of Iraq war? 0.93

00:44:21.300 You've summed it up perfectly. That's exactly where we are now. 0.95

00:44:26.460 Only one letter of a difference, as Donald Trump clumsily put it just the other day. It's all the same commentators, the same newspapers, the same television channels, the same political class that are telling us all the things about Iran that they previously told us about Iraq.

00:44:47.940 and which most of them, not least Donald Trump, called out as lies at the time.

00:44:56.060 To Trump's credit, he was opposed to the Iraq war

00:44:59.200 and for all the reasons that he's now reversed in relation to the Iran war.

00:45:07.800 And I was one of the leaders of the movement against the war in Iraq

00:45:14.120 and everything that we said turned out to be true

00:45:18.120 and everything that our enemies said turned out to be lies. 0.70

00:45:22.860 But the liars just kept on lying about one country after another.

00:45:28.880 They invented new Hitlers all along the way 0.93

00:45:32.820 and tried to persuade us that we must go to war 0.76

00:45:36.400 or at least support terrorism in their countries,

00:45:41.120 support even al-Qaeda, support even ISIS, the more extreme breakaway, although some people

00:45:52.440 straddle both these organizations. One of them was warmly welcomed in Downing Street yesterday

00:45:59.220 and earlier in the White House. In fact, Trump sprayed him with Trump perfume. He was the former

00:46:08.420 deputy leader of al-Qaeda who became the deputy leader of ISIS. And now he's the president of

00:46:18.280 Syria. And Trump boasted that he made him the president of Syria. So we were prepared to

00:46:28.380 support arm fund and shield in every conceivable way al-qaeda and isis the very people who in your

00:46:40.160 very city are said to have brought down the twin towers murdered thousands of americans and who

00:46:48.340 definitely are responsible for horrific terrorist atrocities in many different parts of the world

00:46:56.600 That's how cynical Western politicians are. They're prepared to put knives into the hands of people who will cut people's heads off with those knives as long as they can be used against our official enemies.

00:47:15.720 And that's what we did in Syria. What we did in Iraq could scarcely have been worse. But in terms of morality, Syria was something even more shameful.

00:47:29.380 We deliberately put ISIS and al-Qaeda into power in Syria because we hated the regime that was there, because it was a Russian ally, because it would not make peace with Israel, because it had friendly relations with Iran. 0.89

00:47:48.360 was all part of one big geopolitical jigsaw, and this piece had to be removed and replaced with

00:47:58.300 that piece. It's, you know, time does not permit us to go into all the depths of the cynicism

00:48:08.400 of Western politicians, but I hope I've given a flavor of it.

00:48:14.120 Right, and we could see that ISIS attacked so many countries in the Middle East,

00:48:17.920 but ironically, they'd never attacked Israel. And now we know, we understand more that so many of

00:48:23.600 these groups that were used to spread propaganda about Muslims and say that they're all terrorists,

00:48:28.160 they were all directly CIA and Mossad funded. The Epstein files revealed this. And again,

00:48:32.960 you could see the leaders of the free world bragging about it on stage, that they are the

00:48:36.700 ones responsible for changing this regime. What do you think holds back so many people

00:48:42.960 from understanding this issue. Why is Trump able to get away with this? And how do you think people

00:48:50.400 can wake up to what's really happening? Well, again, you're absolutely right. You could just

00:48:58.380 speak to camera. You don't need me. The weapons of mass destruction that never were in Iraq was

00:49:07.700 the reason, the casus belli, for a war which killed a million people and sent fanatic extremism

00:49:15.560 cascading around the world in the form of al-Qaeda, in the form of ISIS. In Iran, it's a 0.75

00:49:23.440 non-existent nuclear weapons program. Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons. If they did have nuclear

00:49:30.980 weapons, America and Israel would not be attacking them right now for fear of those nuclear weapons.

00:49:38.560 They have a religious fatwa against nuclear weapons. I've said for many years, when you've

00:49:46.020 got two nuclear armed powers, Israel and the United States, trying to destroy you, it's pretty foolish 1.00

00:49:52.360 of you not to have a nuclear weapon, if you can build one, as the Iranians plainly could. 0.96

00:49:59.500 but they won't they don't they haven't and yet this these two hoaxes have run side by side 0.72

00:50:08.660 you invade iraq on weapons of mass destruction that didn't exist and you're invading iran

00:50:15.280 on nuclear weapons which don't exist it's partly the still hegemonic power of mass media

00:50:26.360 so many people are watching your show

00:50:29.060 so many people are watching my show

00:50:31.600 so many people are watching shows like ours

00:50:35.240 but the great majority of people are still watching

00:50:38.340 the mainstream media

00:50:40.720 they're still reading the mainstream media

00:50:44.200 they're still reading the New York Post

00:50:46.400 which is a propaganda rag

00:50:50.020 of dubious provenance

00:50:52.860 Now, as long as that is the case, we are becoming more and more powerful, no doubt.

00:51:00.240 That's why they attack us, why they accuse us, and so on.

00:51:05.040 But we're a long way from being powerful enough to be able to deny them the manufactured consent

00:51:14.160 that they are able to get through the mass media.

00:51:17.840 And as Bob Dylan said, money doesn't talk, it swears.

00:51:22.860 This guy, I forget his name, who's just bought CBS.

00:51:28.900 He's about to buy CNN.

00:51:31.700 Allison, right?

00:51:33.460 Yeah, that's him.

00:51:34.580 This is money swearing.

00:51:38.480 They're openly telling you, just so we can stop the rot,

00:51:45.100 stop the flight of support from Israel and for war, 0.76

00:51:51.160 we're going to buy your media 0.98

00:51:53.980 and sack anybody

00:51:55.820 that won't toe the line

00:51:57.660 and that's what they've already done at CBS

00:51:59.900 that's what Hegseth

00:52:01.760 boasted they were going to do

00:52:04.280 at CNN

00:52:05.340 when they get their hands on it

00:52:07.920 so we have to

00:52:10.160 strain

00:52:11.660 harder to build our

00:52:14.000 audiences to

00:52:15.580 sharpen our

00:52:17.740 wits, sharpen our

00:52:19.880 argument so that one by one we win uh the people and the people we need to win most are not people

00:52:28.940 of my age but people of your age the people that you're talking to and i'm talking to thanks to you 0.98

00:52:34.580 right now thank you and unfortunately so many of the boomers i'm sure you know are just it's a 0.97

00:52:40.020 perfect example of you can't teach an old dog new tricks they eat up that evangelical slop it just 0.99

00:52:45.720 seems pretty much hopeless. Not to be all doom and gloom, but the majority of the boomer class 0.96

00:52:50.840 are never going to learn. That's the reality. It's interesting that you point out Hegseth. He just 1.00

00:52:55.360 bragged and said that he wants Ellison to buy up all the media so that they can keep pushing their

00:52:59.680 propaganda in a country where we boast about having free speech. You mentioned New York Post.

00:53:04.880 I just did an interview with them three hours ago, and this is a mainstream publication that

00:53:10.180 has pushed the same thing of moral policing people like me, while also aligning with that

00:53:16.580 same genocidal state that we have right now, the 4K evidence of them committing a genocide. 0.71

00:53:22.720 And you're right, it is Gen Z that's going to have to make the change. You have a lot of success in 0.99

00:53:27.700 your career of garnering a populist movement, which is what Trump was successful in. In 2015,

00:53:33.060 2016, after they rigged the election to the DNC against Bernie Sanders, I became a Trump supporter

00:53:38.340 because I wanted an outsider and I did believe that he was going to drain the swamp and all the

00:53:42.940 lies that he pushed. What success have you found in your career at garnering a populist movement

00:53:48.680 and how can the future emulate your success? Well, I think you've got to go with the grain

00:53:57.340 of your own country, your own society. There's no point in telling the people you're asking

00:54:03.500 to vote for you that you actually hate them, that you consider them deplorable, that you 0.92

00:54:09.220 hate their filthy habits. You have to be a part of the country you're in. You can't live

00:54:14.040 in an imagined country at an imaginary time, sometime in the future, when all rough edges

00:54:21.380 have been smoothed over. So you have to talk the language that your own people talk. You 0.93

00:54:29.620 have to know the culture that your own people have. You mustn't allow yourself to be the

00:54:39.740 Algonquin, the round table of superior people. You have to base yourself amongst the masses.

00:54:50.360 They must be the water in which you swim. And that's a mistake that many, many people

00:54:57.700 who call themselves liberals, call themselves left, have made. It's not one that I have ever

00:55:06.900 made. As it happens, I have very similar views on God, on marriage, on children, on law and order,

00:55:17.300 on drugs and so on, as the great majority of my compatriots do. So I don't suffer from that

00:55:26.120 weakness and then you've got to tell people the truth you've got to believe in it for a start

00:55:32.340 because people can easily unmask the charlatan who's saying what he thinks people want to hear

00:55:41.580 rather than what he believes and he has to say it in the best and sharpest possible way and in the

00:55:49.060 fewest number of words because some people talk a very great deal and say nothing. And

00:55:56.740 if you can do that, you can begin incrementally to gain ground. And that's what we have been

00:56:06.360 doing. I told you earlier I'd been seven times elected to Parliament, but only four of those

00:56:12.520 times were in the mainstream political scenes. Tony Blair expelled me after 36 years of membership

00:56:21.560 from the Labour Party while I was a sitting Labour member of Parliament. So I stood against him

00:56:30.400 and I won. I stood against them a second time and I won again. I stood against them a third time

00:56:37.780 And I won again. So I've been doing something right. And if you check the local election results next month in May, you'll find advances, still further advances made by the Workers' Party of Britain.

00:56:56.140 Because, as I said to you, we're socialists, but we're not liberals. We want socialism for the people, common sense socialism. Look at gas, for example. Gas is six times more expensive than it was four years ago.

00:57:15.620 People can't afford to heat their own houses

00:57:19.360 They're sitting in their own sitting rooms

00:57:22.300 Wearing coats

00:57:23.920 Because they can't afford to heat their houses

00:57:27.560 While the gas company

00:57:29.620 Is making five times more profit

00:57:34.060 Than it did four years ago

00:57:36.360 So we say

00:57:37.460 We'll take that, thanks very much

00:57:40.040 We'll take ownership of the gas

00:57:44.040 and we'll ensure that the profit goes back to the people same for water god sends water

00:57:53.780 teeming to the ground in my country there are parts of my country where it never stops raining

00:58:00.140 but private individuals then own that water and they sell it to you the water that god gave us

00:58:09.060 in abundance

00:58:10.260 and if you can't afford to buy it

00:58:13.120 you won't get it

00:58:14.400 so that's what I mean by

00:58:16.920 socialism

00:58:18.000 where it is better

00:58:20.720 for the public good

00:58:22.500 to have the country

00:58:25.440 in control

00:58:26.980 rather than private individuals

00:58:29.220 your Ellisons, your Lutniks 0.98

00:58:31.300 your pirates 1.00

00:58:33.160 and brigands in the Trump 0.95

00:58:35.360 circle, well let's do it

00:58:37.740 let's have the courage

00:58:39.000 of our convictions. And if you sell my ideology to the masses in this way well enough,

00:58:49.340 eventually you're going to surmount the negative, hostile propaganda that people have been

00:58:55.340 treated to all of their lives. I think you're the first one to really spell it out correctly,

00:59:01.300 because there are a lot of proper arguments for your idea of socialism. But so many people in

00:59:07.080 America, they have a cloud of judgment because they often associate it. And you make the

00:59:11.240 distinction between leftism and socialism, right? So many of these people that purport these values

00:59:16.440 are also waving transgender flags at the parades. And although we don't hate people, we understand

00:59:21.760 that this is a harmful ideology with the high suicide rate. And so they conflate the two and

00:59:26.460 they think that you're a crazy, woke liberal who with blue hair and this stuff, and they don't 0.64

00:59:31.960 want to hear these ideas. But the idea of free health care and a free education, this is something

00:59:37.600 that the average American should look towards, especially when there's $94,000 in debt for the

00:59:43.460 average member in Gen Z. The likelihood that we can own a home or be married at the age of 30, 0.72

00:59:49.480 it's 10% in Gen Z. But for the boomer generation, it was over 50%. You see people like Mehdi Hassan,

00:59:56.200 who also, he's Muslim, but he does align with a lot of this liberal ideology. And maybe that's

01:00:02.480 why you make a distinction between yourself and Mamdani. So it is important to make that 0.94

01:00:07.500 distinction. Right now in the UK, you see also a major separation between people like yourself

01:00:13.360 and Piers Morgan, or Louis Thoreau, who recently just did a documentary on the Manosphere.

01:00:19.380 And the shifting in American culture is very similar to the British culture separation.

01:00:26.200 I think in a lot of ways, maybe you have an overlap to people like Roger Waters of Pink Floyd, who have been very critical of that same regime.

01:00:33.780 Where do you see England going right now if the culture shift is super similar to the culture shift we see in America?

01:00:44.120 It is increasingly similar and in some respects identical.

01:00:50.400 And again, if you don't mind me saying, it was you that exported it to us.

01:00:54.320 As the Red Hot Chili Peppers once said, Californication. We have been Californicated in British culture. All this liberal claptrap came from across the Atlantic, and I, in my long political life, saw it happening.

01:01:16.120 But to be clear, I have no hatred for anyone on the basis of their sexual orientation. I treat people as they would like to be treated. I care not a whit who people sleep with as long as it's consensual and legal.

01:01:37.660 But I don't want it, no pun intended, rammed down the throat of the rest of us.

01:01:46.760 I don't want my children in school.

01:01:50.460 Thankfully, they're at school in a place where such a thing would never happen nowadays.

01:01:55.980 But I don't want my children to be prematurely sexualized.

01:02:01.660 I don't want them taught that some things are right when I think they're wrong.

01:02:10.560 They're my children, not the state's children, not the school's children.

01:02:16.460 So these objections to the culture that I am making right now are shared by the vast majority of people, you know.

01:02:26.320 I mean, it's abating a bit now, but what I call trans mania was only a couple of years ago in Britain, literally a mania that was sweeping every institution in the country so that the word woman disappeared along with the rights that were long fought for by women. 0.56

01:02:54.200 Now, I don't care if John wants to be called Jean, but I'm not going to agree to him changing in the swimming pool in front of my daughters.

01:03:08.580 I have three daughters and four granddaughters and they have the right to women's spaces. 0.95

01:03:15.920 They have the right not to have to get changed in the swimming pool or in the gym 0.99

01:03:20.980 with a guy with a swinging dick who identifies as Jean, but is obviously John. 0.99

01:03:31.440 Most people agree with me on that. 0.99

01:03:33.360 So the liberals can call me a Nazi for saying what I've just said, and they will, but the great majority of my compatriots agree with me on that.

01:03:47.160 A girl in athletics or in the boxing ring has the right to compete against and fight another girl, not a guy that's identifying as a girl who knocks her out of the ring with the first punch, who beats her in the 100 yards by 10 clear yards.

01:04:10.820 that's not fair women have rights they were long struggled for and hard won and we in our part 0.66

01:04:21.700 of the political spectrum will always support the rights of women rather than the rights of men 0.99

01:04:29.500 who are identifying as women what's wrong with that is the question i ask what's wrong with that

01:04:38.280 The vast majority of people will say, as you just said, nothing at all.

01:04:43.700 But again, these are such minor issues that should be massively understood by people.

01:04:48.960 But we get sidetracked by culture war division.

01:04:51.920 And obviously, this is planted by the same people promoting genocide.

01:04:56.200 On a major scale, what we should be concerned about is this war.

01:05:00.400 And it seems like a lot of people are still looking away, still unaware.

01:05:05.020 Where do you see this going?

01:05:06.480 What is the outcome?

01:05:07.280 You said that this is the sunset of American empire. Is this going to be the end of Western civilization leading the world in terms of rhetoric and economy?

01:05:19.860 Well, as Mr. Gandhi, the Indian independence leader, said when asked by an American journalist what he thought about Western civilization, Mr. Gandhi replied, yes, I think that would be a very good idea.

01:05:31.340 So when I hear the words Western civilization, I always recall that anecdote. 0.92

01:05:37.720 We have been responsible for 500 years of the occupation of other people's lands, of the enslavement of millions of people, of the ruin and grand larceny of other people's wealth. 0.78

01:05:59.400 You know, the British took three trillion, trillion pounds of the wealth of the people of India, just one part of our once vast empire. We owe them three trillion pounds sterling, which is a debt which will never be paid, of course. 0.55

01:06:21.160 The reality is Western civilization was never very civilized.

01:06:27.360 In Europe, we tore each other apart in wars, some of which lasted 100 years.

01:06:34.000 Not joking.

01:06:35.400 There was a war called the Hundred Year War.

01:06:39.200 The First World War was the most atrocious, meaningless, wasteful war that was ever waged 0.63

01:06:47.780 and destroyed a whole generation

01:06:51.960 and therefore robbed us of subsequent generations

01:06:56.540 of European people. 0.75

01:06:58.640 So European civilization was never great, 0.62

01:07:03.100 even for the Europeans, 0.75

01:07:04.700 never mind for the people that they visited.

01:07:08.080 But it's over now.

01:07:09.700 The sun has risen in the east.

01:07:13.020 If I could take you to where I go in Shanghai, your jaw would drop, your mouth would be open

01:07:23.180 at the incredible achievements of China in just 40 years.

01:07:30.740 Shanghai, Beijing, but Shanghai in particular, and though there are many other cities in the first tier

01:07:37.720 that are like science fiction, the levels of achievement.

01:07:44.380 The sun has risen in the east.

01:07:46.500 Now, we had a choice.

01:07:48.640 We could have made nice with the people who are basking in that sunshine.

01:07:56.500 Offer them goods and services that we can still do, still make.

01:08:02.340 We can make good things.

01:08:03.640 China can't make the Ford Mustang, not yet, at least. Can't make the Rolls Royce, not yet, at least. And our intellectual, cultural greatness. China hasn't produced the Beatles, not yet.

01:08:20.540 We could have made nice with the Eurasian landmass of Russia and China and benefited from their economic success. 0.99

01:08:34.620 But no, our idiot rulers decided to make war on economic war, tariff war, trade war, terrorism war, subversion war against the places where the sun has risen. 0.98

01:08:50.760 and therefore we could have benefited from 1.00

01:08:55.040 and they could have benefited from

01:08:57.380 a friendly relationship to us

01:09:00.460 but that would have required 0.87

01:09:01.620 the Western Empire to admit

01:09:04.800 that its race was run 0.59

01:09:07.200 that its 500 years of domination

01:09:10.680 had come to an end

01:09:12.660 and it needed to look at Johnny Foranar

01:09:15.920 with a more respectful eye

01:09:18.000 it needed to look at the people of the east as equals but our rulers were not prepared to

01:09:26.780 do that and that's why we now find ourselves at war or preparing and spending for war against

01:09:36.720 people we never had to make enemies of in the first place in fact we should have been allies

01:09:42.120 with Iran they produce they have steel they produce oil they have a good economy regardless

01:09:49.160 of the sanctions that have been implemented for decades yet Israel they say it's our greatest 0.64

01:09:53.220 ally they produce nothing except for only fans and porn they don't create anything for us besides 0.88

01:09:58.160 spyware and missiles we don't benefit from them directly and now we're waking up more to North

01:10:03.300 Korea for example Kim Jong-un is completely vindicated in wanting to protect his sovereign

01:10:08.100 state from any sort of other influence. And all the Western propaganda made it seem like he was

01:10:13.120 this evil dictator, this crazed lunatic who just wanted to kill and murder and subject his own 1.00

01:10:19.920 people to tyranny. That doesn't seem like the case anymore. China, there's been decades of 1.00

01:10:24.640 propaganda. But now that we have 4K evidence on social media, we see the advancements that they

01:10:30.280 have. And as you rightfully pointed out, at least they have high speed rails while we have a fentanyl

01:10:34.680 crisis and people folding over and throwing up in the streets in the first world country of

01:10:41.540 America. And I think he also rightfully pointed out that England is not going to repay the debts

01:10:45.960 that it owes to India. And oftentimes we hear people brag about the first world, the first 0.96

01:10:50.640 world, the elite first world. Well, this is only possible because of all the pillaging and theft

01:10:55.660 that has gone on from the third world. And whenever a nation tries to stand up and become sovereign 1.00

01:11:00.560 and become independent, the CIA, Mossad, they infiltrate, they either imprison or assassinate

01:11:05.680 their leader and subject them to more tyranny. So this could be a major shift coming forward,

01:11:12.100 and we're going to see the mistakes. Yeah, we're going to see some major mistakes.

01:11:15.740 We call it, they call themselves the golden billion. It's a misnomer because actually the

01:11:24.760 vast majority of the people in the area of the golden billion have enjoyed hardly any of the

01:11:33.040 benefits of the past empire. Or we wouldn't have the scenes on the streets in your country and

01:11:42.260 mine that we have. We wouldn't have people up to their ears in debt and only one or two salary

01:11:50.460 checks away from complete ruin but they call themselves the golden billion but that means

01:11:57.280 seven billion because there's eight billion humans in the world that means seven billion

01:12:05.340 seven eighths of the world's population have not benefited from them at all they've had to do it

01:12:14.080 their own way. Iran is now showing us what the benefits of a 6,000-year civilization 0.99

01:12:22.800 are. Your country is 250 years old. Iran was a mighty world power with religion, with science, 0.99

01:12:35.980 with philosophy with all the things that make up a civilization thousands of years before your

01:12:45.260 country even existed and now it shows we are you are for a change we're not in the war although

01:12:54.680 we're allowing you to land your bombers on our territory to go and murder schoolgirls at class

01:13:03.480 in Iran. But your country is 24-7 savagely bombing the Iranian civilians, Iranian towns 0.94

01:13:14.640 and cities, universities, all the civil infrastructure. Trump just boasted about

01:13:21.000 destroying a bridge today, which is a clear televised admission of a war crime. It is 0.89

01:13:28.880 defined in the geneva conventions in the laws of war which the united states has signed

01:13:37.480 that it is a crime to destroy the civilian uh infrastructure of a country with which you are

01:13:45.920 at war trump boasted on truth social about this very thing this very day but iran is surviving 0.53

01:13:55.000 Iran is proving it's more than a match 0.68

01:13:58.600 for its two superpower assailants

01:14:02.000 Iran is proving that its people are united

01:14:05.280 they're not going to regime change their government

01:14:09.060 on the demand of Donald J. Trump for God's sake 1.00

01:14:13.580 they regard Trump as a piece of trash 1.00

01:14:17.760 who exemplifies the kind of ugly American 1.00

01:14:24.000 that John Wayne used to portray in the movies. 0.67

01:14:29.900 The Iranian people are highly educated.

01:14:34.700 75% of their science graduates and mathematics graduates are women, 1.00

01:14:42.060 so much for the oppression of women in Iran. 0.98

01:14:45.340 Three-quarters of their scientists are women scientists. 0.94

01:14:50.860 I've been to Iran. 1.00

01:14:51.780 I can see the significance of the female population in Iran. We've been sold a blatant lie, our people, on this question. So Iran is showing that it is winning. Trump cannot now possibly prevail.

01:15:13.120 he can continue to kill

01:15:15.380 but he cannot occupy Iran 1.00

01:15:18.400 and as long as he continues to kill 1.00

01:15:21.220 Iran has the means of killing them back 1.00

01:15:24.800 and I tell you this 1.00

01:15:26.500 it'll have to be the last thing I say, Sneeko

01:15:28.960 because the workers here are revolting 0.78

01:15:32.040 they want to go home

01:15:33.000 because of the unearthly hour

01:15:35.480 it now is here

01:15:36.760 but they are discovering 0.80

01:15:40.860 that Iran has the means of making them pay

01:15:46.520 and before this is all over 0.92

01:15:48.960 all those Gulf monarchs

01:15:52.800 that showered Donald Trump and Kushner

01:15:55.900 with diamonds and pearls

01:15:58.140 and investments in his bogus investment vehicles

01:16:02.420 and paid so handsomely

01:16:05.400 for protection from the United States

01:16:09.940 You're in New York. When the five families put you on a protection racket, at least they give you protection. At least the Genoveses will act if somebody attacks you if you are paying them protection money.

01:16:26.080 But Donald Trump, the United States, hasn't protected these monarchs at all. In fact, it moved the weapons that were supposed to protect your closest allies in the Gulf. It moved those weapons to Israel, of all places, and left the monarchs to fend for themselves.

01:16:49.420 there will be big consequences from all of this the tectonic plates are shifting not just in the

01:16:57.440 Persian Gulf but right now most dramatically in the Persian Gulf but they've already shifted

01:17:03.180 to the east and to the global south in any case and you and me will turn out to have been on the

01:17:12.220 right side of history sing hallelujah if you'll forgive me I'll take your leave hallelujah

01:17:19.360 George Galloway, thank you so much.

01:17:21.040 I appreciate your time.

01:17:22.620 Best of luck with the Workers' Party and everything you do.

01:17:25.260 God bless you.

01:17:26.080 We appreciate you standing up for the truth.

01:17:28.900 And I'm sure history will remember you properly.

01:17:32.620 Thank you.

01:17:33.420 Have a great rest of your night, George.

01:17:34.700 And I hope to speak to you again soon.

01:17:36.380 Thank you.

01:17:37.780 God willing.

01:17:38.400 Good night.

01:17:38.680 Good night.

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SHNEAKO - April 02, 2026

SNEAKO Interviews George Galloway： Right and Wrong, not Left and Right

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