SHNEAKO - May 15, 2026


SNEAKO interviews Lauren Chen： The Empire of China


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In this episode of the podcast, I sit down with my good friend and long-time co-worker, Alex Blumberg, to talk about the current state of relations between the United States and China. We talk about China's relationship with the West, the Trump administration, and much more.

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00:00:00.000 So what's the perception? What do Chinese people think about America and Trump?
00:00:03.820 And now it seems to be glazing. And I saw some Chinese people were excited and standing outside
00:00:07.540 of his hotel. Do they have a positive outlook towards Americans? Chinese love Americans.
00:00:12.500 Chinese love America. There's a lot of Chinese who come visit America, who study in America.
00:00:17.580 And I saw there was someone who posted, you know, Xi Jinping was saying that Trump's helping make
00:00:21.840 America great and he wants America and China to be working together. And this like MAGA account
00:00:27.380 was like, I'm shocked. I never expected this. It's like, bro, China, Chinese officials never
00:00:32.260 refer to America in an openly hostile way. I'm not saying, you know, they're buddy, buddy,
00:00:37.200 but most Chinese people love America. How do you think that that can be described China versus
00:00:41.360 the West? Because especially post COVID with the Wuhan lab theory, we were demonizing China a lot
00:00:46.880 and saying that they are an example of an oppressive state spying on citizens. But it
00:00:51.880 seems like that's calmed a lot. What can we expect? And how would you describe the difference
00:00:56.420 between China and the West,
00:00:57.580 because we have free speech here.
00:00:58.660 We don't follow communist values
00:01:00.180 if you can even classify that as communist.
00:01:01.960 So like a lot of the issues
00:01:03.720 surrounding American free speech,
00:01:06.180 what people complain about China for
00:01:08.620 with a social credit system,
00:01:09.960 we have free speech in terms of the government
00:01:11.620 for the most part.
00:01:12.680 But if we look at the consequences
00:01:14.540 that you can endure through your totally legal speech,
00:01:18.820 whether that's being debanked,
00:01:20.240 being banned out of clubs,
00:01:22.020 being put on the no-fly list,
00:01:23.540 I don't think we're in a position to wag our finger
00:01:26.340 at somewhere like China over not having freedom of speech.
00:01:29.560 The UK is the world leader in arrests for social media posts.
00:01:33.520 What is China's perception on the Iran war?
00:01:36.160 Well, China views the Iran war as an act of aggression.
00:01:39.720 They don't support it.
00:01:41.120 Book Track Grooves on Rumble, he wants to know if you would go,
00:01:44.380 Sneeko, on Steven Crowder's show.
00:01:46.120 He invited me on. I think he just wanted to debate.
00:01:47.820 I don't know if it was going to be...
00:01:48.980 But, you know, actually, we were supposed to debate.
00:01:50.500 I accepted, and then he stopped responding.
00:01:52.520 I was supposed to debate.
00:01:53.900 I think I publicly challenged Michael Knowles or someone, someone from the Daily Wire,
00:01:58.520 and they didn't accept. And so Stephen Carter's like, I'll debate. I'm like, okay, let's do it.
00:02:02.620 And then he didn't do it. Yes, he met. Elon Musk is there. Why do you think all these tech
00:02:06.720 billionaires are there? Why is Larry Fink? Why is Elon Musk? Why is Tim Cook? Why did Trump bring
00:02:12.280 out all these CEOs? They're not part of the Trump administration. Well, I think they're going to be
00:02:18.060 right now Trump is not only using America's like military power I think he's trying to get the CEOs
00:02:25.360 in on negotiations with China when it comes to things like AI probably tech manufacturing as
00:02:30.740 well so he's trying to use all of the tools in his arsenal to try and leverage China to I think
00:02:37.680 a lot of it's going to do with Iran and I think China's response will be like yeah sure we'll help 0.71
00:02:42.160 you just leave Taiwan alone like get get your business out of Taiwan that's our sphere which
00:02:47.580 i think it's fair but that's i think why all the tech people are there so they're there to learn
00:02:52.760 musk is a good choice you think that the americans are there to learn about the tech from china well
00:02:57.140 i think that would make sense and then i'm seeing you try to navigate it i'm like do the chinese 0.99
00:03:00.560 really know how to use tech or maybe that's a waste of time i'm joking yeah but also woman 1.00
00:03:06.240 so it's like you know cancels out i can't imagine you driving but their ai is very advanced you're
00:03:13.540 a good driver well no i'm pretty good like i don't get in accidents okay that's great so
00:03:20.380 yeah i don't get in accidents never hit hit anybody that's a low bar but i'm like in tennessee
00:03:27.820 tennessee is the most cars i've ever seen that are like dented they've been rear-ended
00:03:33.040 so there's a scale essentially and i'm on the better part
00:03:37.000 so what's the perception what do chinese people think about america and trump this one surprised
00:03:42.980 me because trump first campaigned in 2015-16 china china he was demonizing china a lot and
00:03:48.880 now he seems to be glazing and i saw some chinese people were excited and standing outside of his
00:03:53.040 hotel do they have a positive outlook towards americans yeah chinese love americans chinese
00:04:00.360 love america there's a lot of chinese who come visit america who study in america and i saw there
00:04:05.880 was someone who posted you know xi jinping was saying that trump's helping make america great
00:04:10.240 And he wants America and China to be working together.
00:04:13.760 And this like MAGA account was like, I'm shocked.
00:04:16.120 I never expected this.
00:04:17.060 It's like, bro, China, Chinese officials never refer to America in an openly hostile way.
00:04:24.000 I'm not saying, you know, they're buddy-buddy, but you don't hear Chinese officials call
00:04:29.040 America an adversary or a foe.
00:04:31.700 So China has been a lot more diplomatic toward America than the inverse.
00:04:35.380 and i think that's shocking for some americans to hear because like press coverage of china is
00:04:41.060 almost universally negative in the united states but it's not a two-way street it's it's honestly
00:04:46.180 not if you if you listen to chinese media and if you talk to chinese people most chinese people
00:04:49.900 love america but maybe it's because of fear in a sense i'm not saying you're scared of americans
00:04:55.160 or chinese people are but we do essentially control the chinese economy by extension they
00:05:01.260 still have to play into the petrodollar system no you're saying no no i mean like obviously
00:05:08.180 america affects a huge part of the chinese economy but if you look at the actual amount of the
00:05:13.100 chinese economy that is related to exports to america it's very low now obviously like with
00:05:18.820 the petrodollar then america has a little bit more leverage but i think people are overestimating the
00:05:23.240 amount that china relies on america because china is the number one trading partner for
00:05:30.080 what at this point the majority of other countries around the world if if china were to completely
00:05:35.880 embargo or sorry america were to completely embargo china it would it would hurt but the
00:05:42.260 even like the chinese domestic market is so big that regardless of international exports period
00:05:47.880 let alone specifically to just america china would largely be fine and china doesn't have big oil
00:05:53.680 reserves you know it's not like america or venezuela or iran or saudi arabia but they have
00:05:59.360 enough and they also like they're they're investing heavily in like nuclear power wind solar so like i
00:06:06.000 like i said i want america and china to work together i'm not saying china should give the
00:06:10.600 u.s a middle finger or anything like that but i think like there's a reason why trump is needing
00:06:14.820 to bring all of these ceos and it's because i think just alone america doesn't have as much
00:06:20.520 leverage as they may have had 20 years ago so basically we are forced to capitulate and try
00:06:26.380 to work with people that we are demonizing and wait is the stream okay i don't think america no
00:06:30.940 i don't think america needs to capitulate and i'm not saying america should capitulate but i'm just
00:06:35.500 saying like i think it's more of a bilateral negotiation than america getting to dictate
00:06:40.940 terms to china which like 20 years ago they probably would have been able to but now it's
00:06:45.520 a lot more even now china has a lot more leverage on their side as well so i'm trying to unlearn a
00:06:51.380 lot of the anti-china propaganda if you grew up in america you heard it your whole life we
00:06:55.400 We talked about how evil the sweatshops are, even though so many of our exports, they come
00:07:00.020 in from China. 0.99
00:07:00.820 We use your factories in the world, as you pointed out.
00:07:03.360 They use a lot of the manufacturing in China.
00:07:05.580 But what is some of a good example of the Chinese propaganda that's just straight up
00:07:10.820 incorrect?
00:07:13.360 Well, I think like the Uyghur issue is a big example of that.
00:07:17.460 And that's something that I previously had kind of like fallen to as well, because, you
00:07:22.340 know I hadn't been to the mainland in a while and I hadn't been back to Asia like in a while and
00:07:26.620 you know you hear a lot about things about the Uyghurs but like you can actually go to Xinjiang
00:07:32.340 right now like you can go you can check it out you can just go talk to them that's possible
00:07:36.860 um so you actually have like people who are actual Uyghurs themselves saying like no like a lot of
00:07:41.660 the stuff that they're saying isn't true you can be Muslim and practicing in China that's fine now
00:07:47.000 I think China should have more religious freedom you know because the way the Chinese government
00:07:51.860 works is that basically you need to have monitoring by by the government and i don't i don't believe
00:07:57.600 in that so again this is not me trying to glaze china there's actual problems with regard to
00:08:01.740 religious liberty but the idea that they were just rounding up you know chinese muslims and
00:08:06.280 putting them in camp camps that's not accurate and it's also frustrating because you know
00:08:11.220 simultaneously i'm seeing all these right-wing accounts who pretend to care about chinese
00:08:14.760 muslims basically they don't like chinese people they don't like muslims but suddenly they care
00:08:18.620 about chinese muslims that's kind of okay i don't know if i believe that but anyway so all of these 0.99
00:08:24.380 maga accounts who are you know we need to bomb them they're terrorists blah blah blah when it 0.98
00:08:29.320 comes to gaza suddenly they care about the chinese muslims um but when it comes to japan who's 0.98
00:08:34.800 basically saying muslims gtfo now all of a sudden oh that's super cool and it's like you know it's 0.89
00:08:40.920 there's a huge double standard if china does something it's terrible and evil if japan does 0.87
00:08:45.220 the same thing it's based in cool that's a good comparison whenever japan they did something i
00:08:50.400 saw recently i'm not sure if it's fake but they said that japanese culture cremates the dead body
00:08:55.680 you don't bury it so muslims can't have their own burial ground but china for example and i don't
00:09:01.440 know if that's the perfect example because i think the uyghur genocide if that is a real genocide
00:09:05.680 based off of your what you're saying i haven't seen this talked about it seems like it's something
00:09:10.120 that's that's kind of kept under wraps i've only heard about it from uyghur people i go to a uyghur
00:09:14.560 restaurant pretty frequently and i've never seen it talked about the way that you know a lot of the
00:09:20.540 other propaganda like the sweatshops and stuff is spoken about well they were talking about it a lot
00:09:27.680 you know like around 10 years ago since then it's kind of died down um you know because there there
00:09:33.200 was like a basically a big work program for some of the criminals in a prison a lot of the footage
00:09:38.120 you see of like the viewers in camps is actually from like a literal prison so i'm not saying that
00:09:42.680 these people were free but there also just weren't random muslim people who were rounded up because
00:09:46.300 they were muslim um but i mean basically for anyone who like doesn't believe me and who thinks china
00:09:52.940 is that bad ironically my my advice would be go check it out go see for yourself people go to
00:09:58.960 like vacation in china all the time you can go explore this yourself talk to people who are on
00:10:03.080 the street like don't take my word for it and is there a complete media blackout because
00:10:08.200 professor jang for example i speak to him pretty frequently and he says that he's unknown in china
00:10:14.480 he's very famous in the western world but these social media websites are not you're not able to
00:10:19.740 access them without a vpn in china is that is everybody on wechat everybody's on wechat um
00:10:26.420 sorry people are saying that i have an echo i can kind of hear it like from my end on you but i i
00:10:31.560 don't know i'm sorry guys uh don't know how to fix that but uh so like everybody basically has a vpn
00:10:37.680 my husband he plays eve and there's like an there's entire chinese corps that all have their
00:10:42.940 vpns so it's not like getting a vpn it's not a huge workaround i think a lot of people don't
00:10:48.140 listen to him just because they're not interested in it so that's a good that's your example i heard
00:10:54.960 jackson hinkle said the same thing and i hadn't heard that before he said that it was all cia
00:10:58.760 propaganda that this is a lie but it seems interesting that that would be their source
00:11:03.400 of anti-China propaganda because Muslims are demonized so much from the propaganda here,
00:11:09.340 right? We have the terrorist propaganda. We have all these lies about Muslims being evil, 0.85
00:11:13.760 Muslim invaders and stuff, ignoring the wars that are causing this mass immigration, 0.97
00:11:19.240 especially in Europe, and it's not really big in America. Why would they choose Muslims as 1.00
00:11:23.060 an example to demonize China if they're also the end of the stick of so much propaganda?
00:11:28.460 up because they are they are a minority in china which is overwhelmingly ethnically homogenous
00:11:34.700 and so like a good example another piece where like they're demonizing china over is that there's
00:11:40.520 legislation now that the minority groups in china have to learn mandarin chinese in addition to
00:11:46.440 whatever language they speak which sounds very sane but the you know a lot of these anti-china
00:11:54.280 people they're trying to portray it as china wiping out the i don't know the what do they call
00:12:00.480 it like basically it's akin to genocide they're trying to trample on the rights of all these
00:12:05.520 like smaller groups even though they're still going to be learning their own languages but
00:12:09.220 they will just be learning mandarin in addition to that okay so a couple things i don't know if
00:12:15.500 you saw it yet is that is the echo bad are they complaining i don't know they say it's it's they
00:12:21.160 hear but it's not worth fixing okay i think they don't want me well we'll just let i'll keep it
00:12:26.840 i'll keep it somewhat brief so i don't interrupt your floor i'd be just interested to speak to you
00:12:31.240 because this is a major meeting and i think it's going to mark a shift so what can we know or what
00:12:37.400 do you know about the ai surveillance that china has because one goal there is definitely going to
00:12:42.840 be an ai surveillance state ai is going to expand and you can see all these tech billionaires there
00:12:47.400 this does seem like it's going to be the new model it's almost guaranteed how far advanced 0.87
00:12:51.960 is china with their ai surveillance and if it's brought here how would things change
00:12:58.760 well i think ai surveillance is like definitely a real thing even in like chinese airport airports
00:13:04.200 um you know you can go and there are this is solace convenience but it kind of reveals how
00:13:08.920 far their ai and facial recognition has come you can go to airports stand in front of a camera and
00:13:14.200 And they're going to bring up like this info board will bring up where your flight is, you know, all the information just based on your face, which is convenient.
00:13:22.260 But it's also like, obviously, there are computers that are tracking all of this.
00:13:26.280 So I think it's definitely the technology is there.
00:13:30.080 We saw that in the UK there.
00:13:32.160 I think they're on the way to implementing that as well.
00:13:34.620 um but i don't think this is a an issue where like the state has in you know in america they
00:13:42.400 are on some sort of moral high ground and i say this as someone who again you know has been
00:13:49.040 debanked in the united states uh was basically made persona non grata through like an extra
00:13:56.960 judicial process so is it is it good no but i don't think china is unique in pursuing this i
00:14:02.720 I mean, we saw that whole, what you call it, that whole controversy over one of the AIs that the military is using.
00:14:10.040 They basically came out and said, we don't want it to ever happen that AI is making a call as to whether, you know, to take someone out, which I thought was very reasonable.
00:14:20.540 And I'm pretty sure the U.S. military basically said, we're not using you anymore and switched over that.
00:14:25.960 So the AI surveillance state is coming and it's not a good thing, but I don't see that issue as like a China versus the West type of thing.
00:14:34.700 So how do you think that that can be described, China versus the West?
00:14:38.460 Because especially post-COVID with the Wuhan lab theory, we were demonizing China a lot and saying that they are an example of an oppressive state, overly tyrannical, spying on citizens.
00:14:51.040 But it seems like that's calmed a lot.
00:14:52.760 what can we expect and how would you describe the difference between china and the west because we
00:14:57.580 have free speech here we don't follow communist values if you can even classify that as communist
00:15:01.780 um i mean i so like a lot of the issues surrounding american free speech
00:15:09.000 it's not here's the thing what people complain about china for with a social credit system
00:15:17.260 We have free speech in terms of the government for the most part, but if we look at the consequences that you can endure through your totally legal speech, whether that's being debanked, being banned out of clubs, being put on the no-fly list, I don't think, again, like, this is me having gone through everything that I did legally.
00:15:38.680 i don't think the u.s especially the west more broadly talking about places like the uk i don't
00:15:45.960 think we're in a position to wag our finger at somewhere like china over not having freedom of
00:15:51.400 speech the uk is the world leader in arrest for social media posts they have non was it
00:15:57.240 non-crime hate incidents and that's that's pretty ridiculous and yeah again like i i believe in
00:16:05.040 free speech so insofar as china does not allow political dissent that needs to change but me
00:16:13.160 after like after everything i've been through i no longer look at the you know the western world
00:16:19.760 as completely anti-authoritarian anymore like the government took like all of our savings never went
00:16:26.880 to court i've been debanged like there have been international investigations over it like
00:16:31.900 I'm not the same I don't have the same views that I used to about the state I was always critical of
00:16:37.580 it but the idea that we live in a society that embraces free speech that has you know due process
00:16:44.360 I'm very skeptical about that now so what are your grievances and what do you disagree with
00:16:50.200 when it comes to China currently I did find it interesting that especially after Venezuela you
00:16:55.020 have so much demonization of communism this is why it's justified to do what Trump is doing to Cuba 0.97
00:17:00.500 saying we needed to go kidnap that socialist in Venezuela, Maduro's evil, he's a drug dealer. 0.74
00:17:05.700 And then they go to China and they start saying, this is a great place. I love it. 0.97
00:17:09.240 Rubio is looking up at the ceiling as if he's never seen one before.
00:17:12.580 Is China really communist? And a separate question, I think it's two part is like,
00:17:17.120 what are your grievances? What can us as Americans be wary of?
00:17:22.720 Well, I think like state overreach is just like a huge thing. But when it comes to whether China
00:17:27.760 is communist i mean if you look at economically china objectively is not communist right
00:17:33.040 they have state-run capitalism it's a market economy you can have private property there
00:17:38.980 are billionaires in china you can start your own business in china you have private property in
00:17:43.420 china you have a currency in china that you can invest and trade in none of these are
00:17:49.280 characteristics of an actual communist economy uh and you know the people who say china is evil
00:17:56.860 because they're communists, they're wrong.
00:17:59.000 It's not communists in the way that they're thinking.
00:18:00.880 But the people who say that China is successful
00:18:02.600 because it's communists are also wrong.
00:18:04.400 I think Jackson Hinkle does that.
00:18:06.040 He's like, if communism doesn't work,
00:18:07.460 why is China so successful economically?
00:18:09.640 Well, it's because they started in the 90s
00:18:11.240 embracing state reforms toward capitalism.
00:18:14.840 And that's really what,
00:18:16.060 after which you saw all of the explosive growth.
00:18:18.960 So no, communism is not why China
00:18:21.580 has seen so much development.
00:18:23.740 It's state authoritarianism.
00:18:25.560 i would say they have kind of like a mixed socialist economy a socialism with chinese
00:18:29.880 characteristics there's a lot of different names for it but it's not communism in the sense of
00:18:33.720 like let's think about the ussr how they have a centrally planned economy how like you don't have
00:18:39.320 private property it's not like that and i think that is what americans are so scared of when it
00:18:44.600 comes to communism as they should be now is it a one-party system yes absolutely you don't have
00:18:50.280 dissenting parties really in china with that being said though if you look at the political
00:18:55.780 reforms that china has undergone over the last 25 years there are a lot bigger political changes
00:19:01.760 that have happened in china under a one-party system that have happened or would be able to
00:19:05.580 happen in america under a two-party system so i just think a lot of you know chinese politics
00:19:11.180 and the political system it's its own thing it's completely unique it's not like anything else and
00:19:15.740 And so trying to transplant the specter of the USSR onto China, it doesn't work.
00:19:21.660 Now, do I think that you should be able to have opposition parties that aren't approved by Beijing?
00:19:27.020 Because you do technically have opposition, you know, but they're small parties, but you have to be approved by the main party.
00:19:32.960 I don't support that either.
00:19:35.220 But, you know, I've spoken to people who don't know that there are actually elections in China because they're just so like, oh, well, it's communism.
00:19:42.740 You hate democracy. No, there are elections in China.
00:19:44.900 Basically, you can vote on a local level and then every level chooses the leaders that rule above them.
00:19:51.820 But yeah, so it's just it's its own thing.
00:19:54.040 Don't try to make China to the USSR. 0.59
00:19:56.540 It's not doesn't mean it's good.
00:19:58.000 But the red scare of the Cold War doesn't really apply to China in 2026.
00:20:04.460 I definitely don't want to see complete surveillance.
00:20:07.200 I don't want to see people get their social media posts taken down.
00:20:10.040 I am wary of that, but it does seem pretty much inevitable with the rise in AI.
00:20:14.900 you mentioned taiwan earlier like let's like be broader like you were banned off of youtube for
00:20:20.400 who knows how long three years and we know now that the reason why was because biden was pressuring
00:20:26.060 youtube to do that and covid misinformation so if uh i don't know yeah but because it wasn't you
00:20:31.860 they were telling they were telling like the government was telling youtube and they were
00:20:40.340 telling Facebook to bring posts and channels like yours down. And they eventually turned it back.
00:20:46.260 And it happened in America. That's true. Yeah. And they just admitted they were wrong. You don't 0.91
00:20:51.620 get any reparations for the banning. I'm still banned on Facebook, Instagram, Twitch, TikTok.
00:20:58.660 It's still everywhere. So yeah, absolutely. But it is pretty much inevitable regardless. Not much
00:21:04.200 we really can do. I mean, people are pushing back and angry about AI surveillance. It's going to
00:21:07.540 come. I mean, that just is definitely the move. Yeah, unfortunately. What about Taiwan? So you
00:21:12.320 mentioned this. So Taiwan is an independent state and it's an island off to the east of China. It's
00:21:18.300 a major choke point because in between you have South Korea and Japan to the north and south,
00:21:24.240 you have Southeast Asia, you have Indonesia, you have Malaysia, Thailand, and you also have the
00:21:28.960 Strait of Malacca, which is the most important choke point, even more than the Strait of Hormuz.
00:21:32.460 so much, so many exports, food, oil, go through that strait. Do you think that, well, China 0.98
00:21:39.880 definitely wants to control Taiwan, correct? What can Americans know about the importance of Taiwan?
00:21:45.120 What's going on? So the thing with Taiwan is that, you know, we talk about Taiwan independence,
00:21:51.520 but to be clear, the ruling party of Taiwan also views itself as part of China, but they want to
00:21:57.820 kind of like they view mainland China as kind of you know the other part of Taiwan so both like
00:22:05.880 both parts kind of want in the ideal world them to rule the other if that makes sense and so the
00:22:11.880 thing with Taiwan is that if you look at the way that the people of Taiwan identify themselves
00:22:17.480 as we've gone further and further like throughout the 21st century there have been more and more
00:22:22.320 people identifying specifically as Taiwanese instead of Chinese which is interesting so you
00:22:27.300 know 20 some years ago a lot of people in taiwan still viewed themselves as chinese now they will
00:22:32.920 identify specifically as taiwanese and i thought that was really interesting because i'm from
00:22:37.280 my family's originally from hong kong which you know was a special autonomous region so it kind
00:22:42.400 of had like similar to taiwan obviously han chinese people but a different government and
00:22:48.820 kind of you know people were wondering is this going to be its own thing but i've never heard
00:22:53.260 someone from hong kong a chinese person say that they were anything other than chinese and i never
00:22:57.280 thought of myself as anything other than being half chinese um but in taiwan you see that there's
00:23:02.480 an effort to create a like distinct identity and so you know i think the people in taiwan don't
00:23:10.300 have any appetite for war and i think the worst thing that could happen would be for taiwan to
00:23:15.420 become another ukraine that would be just absolutely the idea of taiwanese and chinese
00:23:20.700 people killing each other i mean any war is horrific but specifically like these are people 0.93
00:23:25.360 that speak the same language you know like they're the same ethnically now i believe in
00:23:31.420 self-determination but i think you know in i'm a han ethno-nationalist like in my ideal world
00:23:36.680 they would just be unified willingly now i don't i think that china doesn't they've said like they
00:23:45.500 don't want to you know pursue anything militarily but i think there's going to be a problem like we
00:23:51.180 saw in Ukraine if Western forces try to alienate or try to pull a wedge between Taiwan and China.
00:23:58.180 And I think it's I think that's probably like if if I were wondering what China would want in 0.57
00:24:04.340 return for helping the U.S. with Iran, I'm guessing it's get out of Taiwan.
00:24:09.900 So who you say there's U.S. military bases in Taiwan right now?
00:24:15.220 No, no, I'm just saying that there is there is an American effort for Taiwanese independence
00:24:20.320 as a way to, you know,
00:24:23.160 try to gain control over China. 0.93
00:24:25.580 Yes, 100%. 0.93
00:24:27.080 But we've seen like with Ukraine
00:24:29.940 that, yeah, other countries
00:24:32.240 also take their spheres of influence
00:24:33.700 pretty seriously.
00:24:34.720 Like we see how,
00:24:37.180 like in real time now,
00:24:38.440 how America reacts to a communist country
00:24:40.800 being so close to it.
00:24:42.120 I think we can understand
00:24:43.180 why China would not want
00:24:45.060 Western interference or pressure
00:24:47.180 when it comes to Taiwan.
00:24:48.620 So yeah, it would be a proxy war,
00:24:50.200 But if it was just China versus Taiwan, the CCP demolishes Taiwan.
00:24:54.580 It's not even going to be close.
00:24:55.600 Well, that's not even a question, right?
00:24:57.260 Like, I mean, just in terms of population, that's not a question, like, obviously.
00:25:01.780 But I don't want that.
00:25:03.580 That would be a terrible, like, horrible thing. 1.00
00:25:05.960 You would have Chinese people killing other Chinese. 1.00
00:25:07.900 Like, that's awful. 0.95
00:25:09.380 Like, they speak the same language, like, shared history.
00:25:12.760 It would just be awful. 0.88
00:25:14.240 And so, yeah, that like Taiwan being Ukraine, like Taiwanese people dying as cannon fodder for, you know, Western powers to exert influence over China. 0.70
00:25:27.240 That would be the nightmare scenario.
00:25:30.140 If China were to take control of Taiwan, which I think this is on the table for these talks, there's no way this is not a conversation.
00:25:36.980 Would China strangle South Korea and Japan and prevent them from growing their own economies?
00:25:44.240 um well japan's economy isn't growing regardless of what china does japan's been in recession for
00:25:50.780 i mean who knows how many like their economy is shrinking the country and it's not really just
00:25:55.280 because of the population decline their their gdp has been shrinking and shrinking and shrinking
00:25:59.320 like i think people are surprised when they visit japan how relatively i don't want to say
00:26:04.640 poor but it's like the average japanese person is not wealthy they're not like an economic
00:26:11.140 powerhouse like they used to be so i don't think china has anything to worry about with japan um
00:26:18.160 but i think like obviously the japanese prime minister right now she's really she's caused a
00:26:25.000 lot more tensions with china specifically because yeah she's trying to make it seem like she cares
00:26:31.320 about taiwan now what's interesting is that the taiwanese opposition leader met with xi jinping
00:26:35.100 which was i don't know if you saw that it was a really really big deal that's the type of thing
00:26:39.120 that i want to see i want to see diplomatic negotiations between taiwan and china but like
00:26:44.060 bilateral other countries can mind their own business this this doesn't have anything to do
00:26:49.080 with them this is between taiwan and china japan you can kick rocks as far as i'm concerned but um
00:26:56.040 like on the grand scale like japan they're not a threat to china i mean like in terms of military
00:27:04.440 that's a joke economy not a thing south korea same so i like i don't i don't see why
00:27:10.940 china would be worried about them and i don't think that's how china china views either of
00:27:18.000 them either and i feel like there's there's an alignment that's going on in asia i don't know
00:27:21.820 if you saw but like china's been doing the rounds to all the southeast asian countries
00:27:26.060 and increasingly southeast asian countries are viewing china favorably because of the money that
00:27:31.920 there you know chinese tourists come there's chinese investment and i think that's how it
00:27:36.900 should be like i don't want to see military conflict and china's not dropped any bombs
00:27:42.140 like in like how many years at this point and i don't want that to change
00:27:45.540 well the last one i want to ask i'm not sure if you're echoing but the we mentioned taiwan
00:27:55.120 did you expect us to to go this way did you expect it to be this friendly trump is drinking
00:28:00.080 the champagne glass he is being very nice he never drinks and he broke his you know he broke
00:28:05.800 his agreement with himself to to drink and do a toast for xi jinping even though they didn't meet
00:28:09.500 him at the airport yeah well he i don't i don't think xi jinping ever meets people at the airport
00:28:14.880 that was a slight he saw he was super excited to see kim jong-un at the airport wait didn't but
00:28:19.180 kim jong-un he takes the train doesn't he he doesn't take the airport actually is that a good
00:28:23.760 point i don't think he flies but i like yeah because they they connect i didn't know that
00:28:31.360 there was a railway there no they're meeting at the airport yeah there's a there's a giant plane
00:28:34.620 right there yeah he's he's me if you click on my stream i'm playing the video you could you can see
00:28:39.060 it he's enthusiastic xi jinping is smiling ear to ear he looks like professor jang when he makes a
00:28:44.520 realization compared to when trump arrived with all of his uh his tech boys they did a little
00:28:49.980 celebration with the kids probably because they're trying to appeal to his taste but they did not
00:28:54.940 bring the top dog at the airport look at him they look at kim jong-un them on the on the car it
00:29:00.380 looks like those propaganda videos from the 30s in germany so it's a different attitude for sure
00:29:04.860 okay i'm looking online and it says that kim jong-un met xi jinping in pyongyang at the
00:29:12.400 airport maybe i'm wrong though okay maybe the airport lavish reception maybe i don't know but
00:29:19.600 I'll send you this link so you can see.
00:29:21.340 I hope that it wasn't meant as a snub because, I mean, so far, President Trump has been very diplomatic.
00:29:28.180 And I think I want China and America to get along.
00:29:32.060 I want there to be great trade deals.
00:29:35.140 You know, China's really been easing up visa restrictions for a lot of the countries that they've been having these negotiations with.
00:29:41.560 So I would love to see visa-free travel for Americans in China.
00:29:45.780 i want more americans to go see china for themselves without any of you know the corporate
00:29:50.960 press or you know cia propaganda they recently did that for i think the uk and canada i think
00:29:58.960 would be great for americans to be able to visit and see for themselves as well i would love to
00:30:03.520 see yeah i just like i want friendly relations i think that's yeah all there basically is do it
00:30:10.240 that is the most ideal we'll see if it actually ends up this way but a major factor we didn't
00:30:14.440 speak about is China's role in the Iran war. So there's some information that shows that, well,
00:30:19.520 Russia definitely, well, not proven, but they're probably giving intel to Iran. What is China's
00:30:25.140 role? Because you have BRICS, and I don't think that they were as favorable. I saw some comments
00:30:30.180 from foreign leaders or from foreign ministers in China saying that they did not approve of
00:30:35.280 the attack on the school. What is China's perception on the Iran war? Well, China views
00:30:42.460 the iran war is an act of aggression um they don't support it and so i think that's actually
00:30:48.820 a big reason why the state department has kind of gone after china historically is because right now
00:30:54.200 like there's like this like international consensus that they like to call it but really
00:30:58.600 like we've asked like europe and they agree with america um but i think the reason why like i don't
00:31:06.400 know if you saw but israel tried to get uh they're trying to like get china sanctioned and boycotted
00:31:14.040 because apparently china is anti-semitic for being very their china is probably one of the
00:31:18.300 most vocal uh nations in opposition to what's going on in gaza right now um and yeah israel
00:31:26.140 doesn't like that they've also called the strikes on iran you know acts of aggression illegal etc
00:31:31.380 so yeah i think china doesn't really tow the like international community lines a lot of the time
00:31:38.680 and i think the state department probably doesn't like that so china's anti-semitic my first time
00:31:44.780 hearing that is the social credit score thing true no so there's like no there's no unified
00:31:52.780 social credit score so if you if you're certain municipalities or individual regions might say
00:31:57.900 if you were committed to a crime,
00:31:59.020 you can't go on public transit.
00:32:01.240 But there's like no big social credit score.
00:32:04.000 And certain like individual apps
00:32:06.440 might be able to ban users
00:32:07.860 for whatever reason they want,
00:32:08.900 but that's not different than America.
00:32:12.100 First time I'm hearing that.
00:32:15.520 Book Track Grooves on Rumble,
00:32:17.580 he wants to know if you would go,
00:32:19.080 Sneeko, on Steven Crowder's show.
00:32:21.340 He invited me on.
00:32:22.260 I think he just wanted to debate.
00:32:24.020 So I don't know if it was going to be...
00:32:26.060 But you know, actually,
00:32:26.660 we were supposed to debate.
00:32:27.500 And I accepted, and then he stopped responding.
00:32:30.020 I was supposed to debate.
00:32:31.640 I think I publicly challenged Michael Knowles or someone,
00:32:34.800 someone from the Daily Wire, and they didn't accept.
00:32:37.820 And so Stephen Crowder's like, I'll debate.
00:32:39.200 I'm like, okay, let's do it.
00:32:40.520 And then he didn't do it.
00:32:43.040 What were you supposed to debate?
00:32:45.920 I'm pretty sure.
00:32:47.280 Does anyone in the chat remember?
00:32:48.280 It was supposed to be about, I think it was supposed to be something to do with Islam.
00:32:53.980 I'm not sure.
00:32:54.860 Have you done a show with Stephen Crowder?
00:32:57.500 Oh, like years and years and years and years ago.
00:33:02.080 It was about the club situation.
00:33:03.860 I can't even remember.
00:33:05.060 But, yeah, I'm open to it.
00:33:06.340 I think he got some things wrong.
00:33:07.420 I think he does follow a lot of traditional GOP talking points.
00:33:12.120 It's a little boomer sometimes.
00:33:14.480 So we'll see. 0.53
00:33:16.720 I'm open to it.
00:33:17.800 Who's on your – so you're back streaming now?
00:33:20.360 What's the – you're on kick?
00:33:22.900 You didn't even tell me.
00:33:23.900 I just see you on the kick homepage.
00:33:25.760 I've tweeted it.
00:33:26.740 i've tweeted it out so yeah this is my third week streaming um this is my first time using rumble
00:33:33.280 studio so it's it's not usually this much of a cluster f with regard to the tech this is also
00:33:40.560 people have been telling me like the entire stream that the latency is bad which was not happening
00:33:44.680 um but yeah so it's just started streaming because i'm not on youtube anymore but i can still be i
00:33:50.880 can still be on kick for now i can still be on twitch and uh you know obviously rumble so that's
00:33:56.300 what we're trying right now and it's fun on youtube yeah yeah all of my channels what was
00:34:03.740 the reason um i don't know exactly what it was so the doj like obviously merrick garland gives
00:34:11.400 this big press release about me and then youtube didn't ban me but then i think it was a bunch of
00:34:16.860 journalists were basically going to youtube saying so you support russian propaganda she's still on
00:34:22.940 youtube and kind of saying like oh does this mean that you support misinformation to divide america
00:34:28.880 and so that's when they ended up banning me and i'm not even sure what the official reason or like
00:34:35.280 tos that i allegedly would have broken was but um yeah i don't like you know youtube at the time
00:34:42.920 said we are conducting an internal review but obviously if the doj didn't find anything i doubt
00:34:47.840 YouTube's team would find it, you know, um, anything untoward. So that's, uh, yeah, that's
00:34:54.260 where I'm at. Well, I hope you get it back. I have a connection. I can probably speak to my
00:34:58.340 YouTube partner manager. So if we, if we could sort that out, how's everything transpired?
00:35:02.420 Since we last spoke, you were under a lot of attacks. How, how's that worked out? Is everything
00:35:07.520 okay? Yeah. I mean, everything's okay. And actually, you know, now we, we're still trying
00:35:12.120 to get all of our like savings and accounts back. Um, but we do know people at the DOJ and basically
00:35:17.040 what i've like i've been trying to get in touch with the youtube person that used to deal with
00:35:21.840 us but i've told them like now we actually have people at the doj who would be like able to
00:35:27.520 clarify that the investigations closed like nothing's come of it we're all good legally
00:35:31.960 like i'm i'm able actually now to provide that to youtube to say that there's like everything's
00:35:37.140 you know it's all done um but yeah we've we've i've only ever gotten like the usual canned
00:35:44.080 response from you know the the youtube help uh form so it's not really gone anywhere i was a
00:35:50.220 little bit surprised that you you took this call i saw i think elon musk was replying to your tweets
00:35:54.300 and i'm like did they get her is she uh is she on that team now but what was that about i saw
00:35:59.580 you're getting some more support yeah well elon musk he's he doesn't follow me but he's quote
00:36:05.760 i think i i post about like crime stats and apparently that's interesting to him i think
00:36:11.260 Lauren, let's be real.
00:36:12.920 We know his track record.
00:36:14.040 I think we know what's interesting to him.
00:36:16.820 Let's be real.
00:36:18.240 He has not offered any rocket surrogate babies, to be clear.
00:36:25.000 Apparently, he did that to Tiffany Fong is the rumor,
00:36:27.580 but that's something that his other baby mama said,
00:36:29.720 so I take that with a grain of salt. 1.00
00:36:31.820 Oh, he prefers the other Asian right winger over... 1.00
00:36:34.100 That's Tiffany Fong. 1.00
00:36:35.300 You guys have to go and box it out.
00:36:38.580 You know what?
00:36:39.120 i've actually previously considered like female commentator fighting because i feel like i would
00:36:45.540 do pretty good amongst some of them i'm surprisingly tall and i have long arms i have pretty good reach
00:36:50.020 really like i yeah i'm i mean i'm 5'7 so i'm not i'm not tall but just people assume i'm shorter
00:36:56.140 because i'm asian but that is very tall for a chinese woman yeah i'm so much bigger than shoe
00:37:02.140 on head i would never want to fight shoe because she's a sweetie but it's like if i could like you
00:37:05.880 know i i would be able to win that is what i'm saying i like shoe on head i'm not gonna pick
00:37:11.480 sides yeah i would i love i love shoe i could i could defeat her physically is what what i'm 1.00
00:37:17.820 saying though and a wrestling match who wins you you are just pearly things no so pearl pearl would 0.98
00:37:24.740 have me she's like i've met her in person she's a big woman he's she's a big woman um you know if
00:37:31.260 if someone is looking for like very strong sons pearl can give them to you i'm pretty sure uh but
00:37:37.500 she's yeah she she would get me there 100 she's like what six something yeah she's we're about
00:37:43.540 the same height she's so big that i didn't want to call her a big girl she's a big woman she's a 0.96
00:37:47.920 that's a yeah girthy person right there has she been nice to you because she's still 1.00
00:37:53.620 she's still going hard with the same talking points you know marriage is bad women are evil 1.00
00:37:59.340 i think she was like she she's come at me before and um yeah like i she she at one point like had 0.93
00:38:09.860 a group chat of e-girls and she put me into it i wasn't like tweeting um i know and she
00:38:16.140 i i i don't want to start anything with pearl but like she she she's kind of a provocateur
00:38:24.700 you know what i mean i think the the thing the last thing she said to me was like how's
00:38:28.660 yeah how's how's prison it's like i like i've never been to be clear but it's full of black
00:38:34.400 guys i'm sure she'd love it and it's just i don't want to be mean but she makes it hard you know
00:38:40.200 she makes it hard yeah how's prison is pretty insane when you're going through that stuff i'm
00:38:45.100 glad that you're doing well yeah thank you but yeah so she she she makes it hard and i i i see 1.00
00:38:51.340 she gets a lot of hate from like uh you know other other female streamers but she's also 1.00
00:38:56.540 someone she she'll go after you know women for not dressing modestly which like you know okay 1.00
00:39:01.600 we can all use a little modestly but then she herself is wearing mini dresses so i mean i i 1.00
00:39:06.080 wish her the best but i i don't like that she she's anti-marriage anti-family and obviously 0.91
00:39:11.960 that's uh you know i i don't think that's helpful i think that's destructive and i also think you
00:39:16.920 know the point of the red pill is supposed to be viewing reality as it really is but a lot of the
00:39:21.760 talking point she has toward relationships and all the stats she uses frankly speaking they are skewed 0.95
00:39:27.540 by race and demographic right so if pearl's talking about like all these std rates like 1.00
00:39:33.120 i think it's like one in two black women have like some form of sdi at this point so like if
00:39:41.500 you're a college educated guy dating college educated women but i'm sorry this is not the
00:39:45.960 reality that you were living in okay well i saw she debated anna casparian have you spoken to her
00:39:51.760 she follows me and i want to bring her on stream but i don't know if she's i'm not sure what's
00:39:57.960 your relationship with her have you met i've never i've never met so they uh they wanted to get me on
00:40:04.400 that uh her take podcast which is that didn't last long they did like one or two episodes it was done
00:40:10.580 pretty quick I think I think they it lasted like quite quite a while but I don't think they're
00:40:18.240 doing it anymore because they were bringing in guests and they they wanted to bring me in and
00:40:21.880 I was like yeah and booked to go but then like it was like the week before and I didn't have any
00:40:26.340 travel booked and like they had kind of ghosted me so I didn't end up going and my kid ended up
00:40:31.680 getting sick like when I would have left and at the same time it's like I haven't heard from
00:40:35.180 anybody what's happening that turns out their producer was on vacation so it was just anyway
00:40:39.300 one of those things but uh i think now they just if they do do it they don't fly in people anymore
00:40:44.540 they just do it remotely but i would i would be interested to talk to anna i don't think she's a
00:40:50.200 fan of me and she covered the whole tenant thing she's in my little intro um talking about it
00:40:56.600 what did she say i didn't see this um well yeah so my like little intro thing is basically i had
00:41:03.480 to watch a bunch of people just
00:41:05.360 terrible, like, tear me apart.
00:41:07.620 But then I made, like, a little collage
00:41:09.440 of it. And so that's the intro for the show right
00:41:11.460 now. And Anna Kasparian is in it.
00:41:13.620 She actually was one of the more fair people,
00:41:15.440 though, because she actually clarified that
00:41:17.140 I wasn't charged with anything, neither was my husband,
00:41:19.580 neither was the company, which a lot of people didn't
00:41:21.500 bother to do, so I appreciate that.
00:41:23.560 But I think she probably still
00:41:25.420 thinks that I'm, like, a propagandist
00:41:27.560 or something.
00:41:29.360 But I like Anna's takes, especially
00:41:31.420 on foreign policy.
00:41:33.480 Well, we stand with Lauren. We're not going to go and contribute to that hatred. I didn't know that it got that bad like that. What about Candace? Candace Owens? Have you spoken to her?
00:41:41.700 um she sent me a text saying like you know when i kind of came out saying that she never really
00:41:48.080 believed any of it which was appreciated but and to be clear like i i do still like anna like i
00:41:53.100 think she's the most entertaining thing on the young turks by far so i i encourage you to i
00:41:57.960 thought also she was great with with pearl i watched that and it was kind of it was interesting
00:42:03.360 because anna casparian she's the leftist but at the same time like she's been happily married for
00:42:07.800 quite a while she's pro-marriage she loves her husband i really respect that she never
00:42:12.260 like she she never says anything bad about her husband publicly which i can never stand when
00:42:17.080 people drag their spouse publicly she's but she's supposedly the leftist the feminist meanwhile she's 0.76
00:42:24.020 she looks feminine she's defending marriage and so i thought that was kind of like an interesting 0.68
00:42:28.400 dichotomy between her versus pearl so and anna is smart as well like i'm not sure if pearl was 0.96
00:42:34.840 thinking that she's just some dumb feminist but Anna is she's smart she's not stupid yeah so she's 0.80
00:42:40.740 not she's not an easy debater at all actually I don't know if you saw but I think the next person 1.00
00:42:45.800 Pearl is debating is Lauren Southern I don't know too much about her I just know that she was part
00:42:50.740 of the the destiny thing or something Andrew Wilson mentioned something but I don't really
00:42:54.000 know anything about her Anna's good though and I think she agrees so I don't really think it's
00:42:58.780 about left and right it's about right and wrong and it seems like Anna I doubt she would really
00:43:02.840 call herself the leftist feminist today if you ask her privately she might say that to be on the
00:43:06.380 young turks but she's seeing that a lot of these politics are just meant to divide us and aren't
00:43:10.960 really accomplishing anything and she has far more in common with the right than she does with the
00:43:16.140 left and it's really it's just a way to give yourself a populist movement but so many of the
00:43:21.400 things that the left pushes she doesn't align with but lauren so i don't know the lore what's
00:43:26.740 lore and southern lore um well basically lauren southern she kind of became well known because 0.87
00:43:34.240 she was doing a lot of like um anti-immigration content and she she's done some on the ground
00:43:40.240 documentaries that were really big she did borderless and farmland so talking about the 1.00
00:43:44.420 the migrant crisis in um in europe documenting how ngos are kind of facilitating the movement
00:43:50.880 of people farmland she was documenting the uh south african uh white farmers like all the
00:43:56.320 violence that they go through so she does really good uh documentary long-form content on the
00:44:01.020 ground stuff but she um you know she she has a kid her she was married but it didn't work out
00:44:07.440 unfortunately she's kind of talked about that publicly so that's not me you know uh but now
00:44:13.060 i think she she previously probably would have identified with the trad movement but now she's
00:44:18.160 a lot more skeptical of it just because of everything she's gone through in her life so
00:44:21.280 So I'm not – I'm really interested to see that conversation and where it's going to go.
00:44:27.320 But she's – yeah, Lauren, I don't know if she makes content regularly now, but she was recently – do you know who Jeremy Boring is?
00:44:32.800 The Daily Wire CEO.
00:44:34.320 He really doesn't like Candace.
00:44:37.400 No, he does not.
00:44:38.460 But he has his own show now because he left – he's not CEO anymore.
00:44:43.160 Yeah, Trump is boosting it on True Social right next to Mark Levin's show.
00:44:46.960 There's two favorite Chosens.
00:44:49.020 wow yeah i didn't i did not know that i don't know i'm not sure don't quote me on that i know
00:44:54.440 he's amplifying levin i don't know about boring but i'm assuming yeah lauren southern was recently
00:45:00.140 on jeremy boring's show someone said she ended up married to a brown guy that's great great so
00:45:06.200 shout out to that brown guy last one we're all kind of like you think he was part asian or
00:45:11.460 something like part asians or something right but to white supremacists that anything you know it's
00:45:16.820 the one drop rule even a little drop of yellow makes it mellow or whatever the last one is the
00:45:22.940 the other e-girl drama i don't know this is last time i feel like a like a gossip girl right now
00:45:27.400 but did you see the whole uh fallout with uh sarah stock i like her i liked her in person oh yeah
00:45:33.000 well hang on that's how i found out about that we were we were on a stream and you were like have
00:45:38.060 you heard about that and i was like no and i was like but sarah stock would never like what are
00:45:42.360 talking about and then afterwards i saw it i was like so this is all stuff like milo i mean to in
00:45:49.240 sarah stock's defense i i listened to the audio that milo released and i think there was a lot
00:45:54.860 of things that milo added that weren't confirmed in that audio but people were still taking his
00:45:59.480 gospel that she had had like multiple abortions and all of that which is like i've not seen any
00:46:04.020 proof for that i didn't look all the way into that this like schizo right-wing drama stuff but
00:46:10.540 i like catching up with that stuff with you because you're in that world and i
00:46:14.100 you know i think you've met a lot of those people it's funny to see like like your relationship with
00:46:18.620 them yeah and it's like i mean it's as sarah stock was one of my favorite accounts i really
00:46:23.640 liked her stuff um i hope like her her feet her husband especially that was just really i don't
00:46:31.320 know i i just hope a lot of what was said was not true for their sake i hope so because the
00:46:36.600 pope was at the wedding so i wish the best for them do you have a rumble deal now you're using
00:46:41.060 rumble studio are you is chris pavlovsky sliding in like elon no well they've they've um i'm part
00:46:48.780 of the no no but i'm part of the creator program now so they they uh you know they showed me how
00:46:54.240 to use it i'm obviously still not very good at it but um oh someone on my chat is asking if you
00:47:01.440 found a wife yet not going to speak about that so you got to keep that all private
00:47:05.700 fair enough but um i hope i hope you still are you know interested in having a family
00:47:11.000 absolutely super interested that's good yeah that's good and uh yeah that's one thing like
00:47:18.820 when it comes to pearl i just i just wish that she was uh yeah more pro-family and that's not
00:47:24.620 to say that i know that there are like issues with family court and i actually appreciate that
00:47:28.360 she talks about that because not enough people do but i think if you if you let that dissuade you 0.94
00:47:34.560 from having a kid at all then you're you're probably you're you're too too black billed 0.99
00:47:38.680 oh yeah what do you think about the um the chud guy this stuff is bad i mean it's not 0.94
00:47:43.940 it's not positive he's not doing things i reached out i told him you should stop doing those irl 0.95
00:47:50.300 streams and i saw because he he kind of chimped out on me i'm like yo you chimped out trying to
00:47:55.560 just bring some sort of balance because I saw that people were advocating for some martyr to
00:48:01.060 go and attack him and I'm like dude just stop doing these IRL streams man just try to do
00:48:04.880 desktop streams instead and he didn't listen and now he is uh charged with attempted murder
00:48:09.920 so that's not ideal we have yet to see if that's true maybe he has a case for self-defense but
00:48:14.780 it's not going to look good with his his online rhetoric and the amount of hatred I think a lot
00:48:19.180 of it too they don't want riots to happen so they're going to probably use him as an example
00:48:23.760 Guys like this are perfect criminals to use, well, alleged criminals to use as an example.
00:48:29.760 So they don't want police stations and they don't want outrage.
00:48:32.860 They don't want backlash.
00:48:33.920 So it's unfortunate.
00:48:35.280 It seems like he's really going to do some time and it's not a good.
00:48:40.960 And again, the guy, like the guy that got shot going up to him, it's like this guy might die.
00:48:45.320 He's in the hospital or something.
00:48:46.720 It's just bad all around and it's not helping anything.
00:48:50.640 Yeah.
00:48:50.860 yeah that's kind of how i feel about it and like i'm i'm not afraid of offending people but i feel
00:48:57.540 like when you're just going up to like i saw a video of him going up to a black cop and calling
00:49:01.900 him the n-word and this is just some random guy he's working you know he's it looked like he were
00:49:07.060 like he was a nashville uh like on broadway just where the tourists are and then you just have like 0.98
00:49:11.940 some retard with the camera coming up to you and saying the n-word i guess like you look like the 0.98
00:49:17.760 retard in that situation this doesn't make the black guy look bad this makes you look bad and i 0.97
00:49:22.220 could only like i don't know i just it feels like the like johnny somali type of thing where there's 0.88
00:49:26.980 an obnoxious streamer who's just trying to get attention and so him trying to make it as like
00:49:31.060 no i'm making some sort of civil rights free speech argument like i agree you shouldn't be 0.93
00:49:36.340 punched for this but you're you're still acting like a douchebag yeah he's antagonizing and he's
00:49:41.400 looking for it i'm wondering where it goes but my take is that we give too much attention to people
00:49:45.380 like this and i was telling people we should not go out in public and seek this out and they're
00:49:49.660 like oh you're defending chud no i'm not i don't want to see violence happen the people who are
00:49:54.260 supposed to that are saying yeah i'm standing up for the black community they're encouraging 0.73
00:49:58.840 literally encouraging martyrdom and then when some guy gets shot they don't even know what his
00:50:03.640 name is they don't they don't care they start celebrating but i'm like what was accomplished
00:50:07.740 how was racism solved everything is in the same position the climate's more heated now people are
00:50:13.480 angry and someone got shot it's not a win no no 100 and uh yeah i mean so he's this has happened
00:50:21.300 in tennessee so i like they're they're a lot more favorable when it comes to like stand your ground
00:50:28.140 so i guess it depends on whether he's telling the truth and the other guy hit him first if the other
00:50:33.740 guy hit him first regardless of what he said i think he'll probably be okay but regardless it's
00:50:39.680 just I don't know I don't think it's nice I don't think it's right to go and just start
00:50:44.040 yelling slurs at people I just yeah it's not helping anything out but Lauren it was great
00:50:50.920 to catch up with you glad to see that you're on kick if you ever need anything I need to get your
00:50:57.600 new number I'll send you a DM I don't know if the the feds tapped it but I'm definitely under
00:51:01.600 surveillance anyway so oh yeah the feds definitely tapped and they're still like they're still
00:51:06.820 monitoring my stuff i i know that for a fact but yeah fun stuff all right good luck with the rest
00:51:14.400 of your stream and it's always good to speak to you lauren see you soon thanks you too take care